Rantai wrote:
I don't understand what Ph0X is trying to do here because as far as I can tell, thinking that WIFOM is bad, isn't something I'd associate with suspicion. If anything, it's just an opinion being expressed and used.
So;
Ph0X wrote:
> So you find me saying that WIFOM is bad more suspicious than DxS rolefishing, or animask using WIFOM?
Yes.
I'd like to ask why, so I can understand your viewpoint.
(Formatting kinda corrected.)The fact that NoHItter argues against WIFOMic statements isn't why I find him suspicious. The fact that NoHItter abuses that same argument continually and tries very hard to attack other players using "your argument is invalid" techniques is why I find him suspicious.
I don't disagree with NoHItter's arguments. I just find them to be forced.
Rolled wrote:
First and foremost, I'm alarmed nobody prodded me. I could definitely over analyze this and find the people with the most to gain from not prodding, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you guys just don't give a shit ^___^
You didn't seem very attached to the game from the start, so I decided not to bother you (in short). Seems I was mistaken.
inb4 some retarded Two logic about me not wanting you to be around to benefit myself.
Rolled wrote:
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Rantai wrote:
I doubt any townie would jump on you if they suspected you have an aux role.
animask wrote:
@Rantai, (FoS) Who said that he was a townie? You're not supposed to assume that..
Ph0x wrote:
Rentai, however, is implicitly claiming that Rolled has a certain role.
My immediate thought behind this, is how is Rantai's statement implying that I am town? @phox, saying Rantai was implying I'm town is WIFOM. The statement could just as easily mean "Animask, you're aux and Rolled is mafia" just as much as "Animask, Rolled is town and thinks you are mafia." I feel like I'm missing something that is apparent to other players, so please fill me in if so.
The way I saw it:
Rentai reads animask's post as, "You [Rolled] might be secretly assuming I [animask] have an aux role, but accusing people of having one isn't a pro-town thing to do." Rentai responds, "I doubt any townie [Rolled] would jump on you [animask] if they suspected you [animask] have an aux role."
The "any townie [Rolled]" part is what I was referring to as "implicitly claiming".
Rolled wrote:
Ph0x wrote:
There's a difference here. DxS isn't claiming (explicitly or implicitly) that animask has a role. Rentai, however, is implicitly claiming that Rolled has a certain role. (I personally don't share this view with animask; I am just expressing my thoughts about your FoS.)
This is wrong, and is an attempt to undermine Haneii's way of thinking.
DxS is explicitly claiming that animask is pro-town.
Rantai is implicitly claiming that I have a role. (which I don't agree with, but for sake of this argument let's assume)
Haneii's FoS is completely valid in this situation. +5 ph0x for not acknowledging this.
Realized I missed
this post by DxS. Either way, though, there is a difference in how DxS and Rentai handled things.
A direct argument against Haneii's is: maybe DxS is right and animask doesn't want to vote for him because of this. (Saying this from animask's perspective, of course.)
Rolled wrote:
NoHitter had all of the right in the world to ask for Firo's logic behind his reasoning, and Ph0x answered NoHitter's question for Firo.
Ph0x, I don't feel it was your time to speak after NoHitter asked Firo a question. All you successfully accomplished was an easy cop-out for Firo, when it was a strong possibility he would not be able to word an explanation of his own. Turns out, he simply did use your reasoning to justify his vote for NoHitter. +5 ph0x, +5 Firo.
I wasn't expanding upon Firo's post. I even said this in my post:
Ph0X wrote:
(I don't know if Firo came to the same conclusion as me. Just stating my thoughts of NoHItter after a re-read.)
I find Firo's following post kind of awkward, though.
Rolled wrote:
While he is tied with ph0x, ph0x has gathered the majority of his points from defending players who I don't feel are necessarily mafia. I feel there's a fine line between needlessly defending players, and voicing your opinion about said player, and ph0x crossed it in a few occasions.
I was poking at a player's argument in each instance I was "defending" someone. It's how I always play.
Haneii wrote:
I thought, 'If the day ends without most of us voting, will the mod assume they're voting for a no lynch? (I prob shouldn't make assumptions like that 
)'. So if that was the case, I'd just help make that the majority vote.
Please read the rules:
Rules wrote:
9. A lynch occurs when a player has an absolute majority of votes on them.
10. At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched. In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.
