I don't need to repeat what Ph0X said.
Vote: NoHItter
Vote: NoHItter
Example?animask wrote:
He seems to actually be using WIFOM and at the same time claiming that using WIFOM is useless.
I have no idea what's going through DxS's mind most of the time. It doesn't make sense for either a pro-town OR mafia player to say, since it's not only rolefishing but blatantly obvious rolefishing. So my official opinion: no idea.Ph0X wrote:
0_o, what are your thoughts on DxS's rolefishing post?
So you find me saying that WIFOM is bad more suspicious than DxS rolefishing, or animask using WIFOM?Ph0X wrote:
NoHItter is being very tryhard, hiding behind the "WIFOM is never useful" shield.
So you say that the only reason you're voting me is for what Ph0x said, and that you agreed on it?Firo Prochainezo wrote:
I don't need to repeat what Ph0X said.
Vote: NoHItter
How am I using WIFOM? Show me the part when I am.animask wrote:
He seems to actually be using WIFOM and at the same time claiming that using WIFOM is useless.
Yes.NoHItter wrote:
So you find me saying that WIFOM is bad more suspicious than DxS rolefishing, or animask using WIFOM?Ph0X wrote:
NoHItter is being very tryhard, hiding behind the "WIFOM is never useful" shield.
No lynch is not beneficial in this situation, especially since it's a relatively small game and there aren't many lynch opportunities.Haneii wrote:
Vote: No Lynch
Here's a simple example: your friend puts his hands behind his back and tells you he his holding a dollar in one of them. Pick the right hand and you win the dollar - if not, you owe him a dollar. He then says "the dollar is in my right hand". Which hand do you choose? You might think "well he wouldn't actually say that if it was in his right hand", but then again, what if he knew you would think that so he actually DID put it in his right hand? But what if he knew that you would think THAT... and it keeps going. Thus, "the dollar is in my right hand" is a WIFOM statement.Rantai wrote:
Before I go further though can someone explain to me exactly what WIFOM represents, I read about it but would like some clarification.
Yes.[/quote]Ph0X wrote:
So you find me saying that WIFOM is bad more suspicious than DxS rolefishing, or animask using WIFOM?
Luckily for animask, this statement got ignored as the day went on. The only person that has tried to make a case out of it is NoHitter, and truthfully I agree with him. A statement like this is beyond a newbie's mistake of speaking their mind. Pulling the numbers out of my ass, I'd assume something like this is more probable to have some kind of reverse-psychology behind it from a player of animask's level. +10 animask.animask wrote:
I never get to be mafia D:
Confirmed.
Rantai wrote:
I doubt any townie would jump on you if they suspected you have an aux role.
animask wrote:
@Rantai, (FoS) Who said that he was a townie? You're not supposed to assume that..
My immediate thought behind this, is how is Rantai's statement implying that I am town? @phox, saying Rantai was implying I'm town is WIFOM. The statement could just as easily mean "Animask, you're aux and Rolled is mafia" just as much as "Animask, Rolled is town and thinks you are mafia." I feel like I'm missing something that is apparent to other players, so please fill me in if so.Ph0x wrote:
Rentai, however, is implicitly claiming that Rolled has a certain role.
Immediately appears to me that DxS is looking for a bandwagon to hop on, which isn't really a pro-town thing to do at this point. Though, his later statement shows his belief (fact or fictional) to be that animask is pro-town, which somewhat counters this argument.DxS wrote:
So....any ideas if we can assume what role animask is?
A very good point, and I agree with Haneii's line of thinking. I feel the reason that animask held his vote, obviously, is because DxS is voicing his opinion that animask is pro-town (which is gathered out of thin air) -5 Haneii since I'm in agreement with him.Haneii wrote:
Furthermore, you spent your past posts explaining how assuming/accusing someone of a role this early in the game isn't pro-town. DxS was just role fishing + expressed his thoughts about you having a pro aux role or being a plain town member. Yet, after all that, you suspect and vote Rantai?
This is wrong, and is an attempt to undermine Haneii's way of thinking.Ph0x wrote:
There's a difference here. DxS isn't claiming (explicitly or implicitly) that animask has a role. Rentai, however, is implicitly claiming that Rolled has a certain role. (I personally don't share this view with animask; I am just expressing my thoughts about your FoS.)
One of those annoying Quarezahasshsa-ish posts. No backing or reasoning behind it, and one of the few posts Firo has made.Firo wrote:
This situation has been pretty confusing and I don't know what to say.
Except the fact that NoHItter sounds mildly suspicious.
(Formatting kinda corrected.)Rantai wrote:
I don't understand what Ph0X is trying to do here because as far as I can tell, thinking that WIFOM is bad, isn't something I'd associate with suspicion. If anything, it's just an opinion being expressed and used.
So;I'd like to ask why, so I can understand your viewpoint.Ph0X wrote:
> So you find me saying that WIFOM is bad more suspicious than DxS rolefishing, or animask using WIFOM?
Yes.
You didn't seem very attached to the game from the start, so I decided not to bother you (in short). Seems I was mistaken.Rolled wrote:
First and foremost, I'm alarmed nobody prodded me. I could definitely over analyze this and find the people with the most to gain from not prodding, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you guys just don't give a shit ^___^
The way I saw it:Rolled wrote:
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I doubt any townie would jump on you if they suspected you have an aux role.animask wrote:
@Rantai, (FoS) Who said that he was a townie? You're not supposed to assume that..My immediate thought behind this, is how is Rantai's statement implying that I am town? @phox, saying Rantai was implying I'm town is WIFOM. The statement could just as easily mean "Animask, you're aux and Rolled is mafia" just as much as "Animask, Rolled is town and thinks you are mafia." I feel like I'm missing something that is apparent to other players, so please fill me in if so.Ph0x wrote:
Rentai, however, is implicitly claiming that Rolled has a certain role.
Realized I missed this post by DxS. Either way, though, there is a difference in how DxS and Rentai handled things.Rolled wrote:
This is wrong, and is an attempt to undermine Haneii's way of thinking.Ph0x wrote:
There's a difference here. DxS isn't claiming (explicitly or implicitly) that animask has a role. Rentai, however, is implicitly claiming that Rolled has a certain role. (I personally don't share this view with animask; I am just expressing my thoughts about your FoS.)
DxS is explicitly claiming that animask is pro-town.
Rantai is implicitly claiming that I have a role. (which I don't agree with, but for sake of this argument let's assume)
Haneii's FoS is completely valid in this situation. +5 ph0x for not acknowledging this.
I wasn't expanding upon Firo's post. I even said this in my post:Rolled wrote:
NoHitter had all of the right in the world to ask for Firo's logic behind his reasoning, and Ph0x answered NoHitter's question for Firo.
Ph0x, I don't feel it was your time to speak after NoHitter asked Firo a question. All you successfully accomplished was an easy cop-out for Firo, when it was a strong possibility he would not be able to word an explanation of his own. Turns out, he simply did use your reasoning to justify his vote for NoHitter. +5 ph0x, +5 Firo.
I find Firo's following post kind of awkward, though.Ph0X wrote:
(I don't know if Firo came to the same conclusion as me. Just stating my thoughts of NoHItter after a re-read.)
I was poking at a player's argument in each instance I was "defending" someone. It's how I always play.Rolled wrote:
While he is tied with ph0x, ph0x has gathered the majority of his points from defending players who I don't feel are necessarily mafia. I feel there's a fine line between needlessly defending players, and voicing your opinion about said player, and ph0x crossed it in a few occasions.
Please read the rules:Haneii wrote:
I thought, 'If the day ends without most of us voting, will the mod assume they're voting for a no lynch? (I prob shouldn't make assumptions like that )'. So if that was the case, I'd just help make that the majority vote.
Rules wrote:
9. A lynch occurs when a player has an absolute majority of votes on them.
10. At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched. In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.
[/quote]Rules wrote:
9. A lynch occurs when a player has an absolute majority of votes on them.
10. At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched. In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.
Players who haven't voted contribute no vote. A no-lynch vote is a type vote, and has to be contributed.Haneii wrote:
So does that mean, in the case where majority hasn't voted, majority vote would be no vote (no lynch)?
or
those who don't vote by the end of the day lose their say/vote and the person with the most votes at the time gets lynched?
That's strange, since you linked to it here:Ph0X wrote:
Realized I missed this post by DxS.
Vote CountPh0X wrote:
0_o, what are your thoughts on DxS's rolefishing post?
I think I meant to link DxS's previous post, but linked that one by mistake.0_o wrote:
That's strange, since you linked to it here:Ph0X wrote:
Realized I missed this post by DxS.Ph0X wrote:
0_o, what are your thoughts on DxS's rolefishing post?
No; I noticed the game was slowing down and made an attempt to kickstart discussion.Rolled wrote:
You asked 0_o's opinion to create distance between yourself and DxS? Maybe.
That I find strange, seeing as you linked to it directly. Let me make sure I understand fully; You're claiming to have mentally (or literally) skipped DxS's post stating animask is pro-town, and in an attempt to jumpstart discussion, you intended to ask faceman's opinion on this post made by DxS?Ph0X wrote:
And I honestly didn't remember DxS saying he thought animask was pro-town until I looked back from your post, Rolled.
For the record I also find this whole "tick tock" bit to be awkward. I can't supply any information behind my feeling but it doesn't sit well in my stomach.DxS wrote:
tick tock tick tock.
So....any ideas if we can assume what role animask is?
Yes; that's correct.Rolled wrote:
That I find strange, seeing as you linked to it directly. Let me make sure I understand fully; You're claiming to have mentally (or literally) skipped DxS's post stating animask is pro-town, and in an attempt to jumpstart discussion, you intended to ask faceman's opinion on this post made by DxS?Ph0X wrote:
And I honestly didn't remember DxS saying he thought animask was pro-town until I looked back from your post, Rolled.
I took that as "well, the time is passing... let's talk about something". I guess there was no real hurry (and things weren't that slow at the time), so it's kind of out of place.Rolled wrote:
For the record I also find this whole "tick tock" bit to be awkward. I can't supply any information behind my feeling but it doesn't sit well in my stomach.DxS wrote:
tick tock tick tock.
So....any ideas if we can assume what role animask is?
You're right; it is a WIFOM statement. I was shutting down a possible (though not probably) WIFOMic argument with which Rolled could have possibly responded.animask wrote:
@Ph0X, "inb4 some retarded Two logic about me not wanting you to be around to benefit myself" seems like a WIFOM statement.
You say its retarded, but you could be trying to avoid Rolled's metagaming in the future which can be good or bad. Lets see... the good
thing would be if Rolled was actually mafia and tries to use something similar to what you stated. This way, you would be able to prevent any accusations or statements from Rolled from hurting you. If you were mafia this would benefit you by making other players believe that similar accusations made by Rolled are useless and will just make Rolled more guilty in some way.
I really have no idea where I got this idea from, but its just an idea and I'm not even sure about an FoS atm.
Oh, thanks. =[animask wrote:
Reason? Reason 1 would be to eliminate my thick metagame tunneling for Ph0X and try to imagine him as mafia for once.
Didn't you say "I'm not even sure about a FoS atm"? What pushed it over the edge?animask wrote:
Reason 2 would
be the things that I stated earlier.
Does that mean the votes are final?Rolled wrote:
Day 1 ended like 8 hours ago.