Manami Numakura - Climber's High! · forum

Pachiru

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Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-08-30T02:50:39+00:00

Mir wrote:
[Pachiru's Advanced]
Why Advanced? You don't have a Normal so just name it Pachiru's Normal lol I don't know why it's called Advanced, when I sent it to Owens, it was named "Pachiru's Normal" so maybe it's because it's harder than a Normal, I don't know. Anyway, I named it back to "Pachiru's Normal".

00:18:969 (6,1) - Eeeeehmm I think the NC should be swapped? Stronger note is 6 here. Similar to 00:21:818 (5,1) - and so on. 00:27:181 (3) - NC here cuz sound is stronger than 00:26:511 (1) - and the measure starts on 3 not 1. You should go through and make sure your NCs are okay. I'll rework all the NC, so thanks for the tip!

- 00:26:511 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - Too much 1/2 in a row, use circles sometimes to break it up and give the player some breathing room. Indeed, I nerfed this part, so I deleted some 1/2 sliders, to make them back as a circle, to make it easier for players.
- 00:42:600 (7) - Could do a reverse here to capture 00:42:768 - Done.
- 00:46:622 (2) - Could delete this for more emphasis on the subsequent vocal if you wanted to. Sure.
- 00:50:645 (5) - A lot of 1/2 in a row again, breaking this whole section up with circles in places would be really good to give players some respite. Once again, I did some changes too here.
- 00:52:488 - Pretty strong snare here you could map with a sliderend probably or even a reverse if you wanted to since the downbeat isn't all that strong. To avoid making this too hard, I deleted the long slider, and make it as two circles instead, so the snare isn't mapped, but I think it's better like this, otherwise that would add more complexity to the player.

Overall NCs could be more representative of the song's structure, and there are a lot of chains of massive 1/2 that really are difficult for players to keep on tapping so using circles here and there would help a lot.

Thanks Mir for the mod

Kurai wrote:
[Pachiru's Advanced]
Pourquoi "Advanced". Advanced se réfère plus à une "Hard" non ? (et je vois pas vraiment le besoin d'utiliser un nom de difficulté provenant d'un autre jeu alors que c'est une musique d'anime). Il vaudrait mieux que tu restes sur "Normal". Comme j'ai dis pour Mir, j'ai revert le nom en Normal, pour éviter d'avoir une inconsistance dans le spread. Mais d'ailleurs, pour moi Advanced, c'est juste le nom d'une diff entre Normal et Hard, pas un nom d'un autre jeu, si jamais tu peux m'éclairer sur ce sujet la ça m'interesse.
00:33:550 (3) - Si ce cercle suit le piano, alors la note de piano précédente (00:33:047 - ) doit aussi être mappée, sinon tu as une incohérence musicale et ça se ressent dans le gameplay. J'ai focus la guitare sur ce cercle-la, pas le piano.
01:06:399 (5) - C'est vraiment borderline offscreen, remonte un peu ce cercle. En effet, j'ai fix ça, et un autre cercle qui trainait en haut et qui touchait l'HP bar en skin par défaut.

Merci Kurai pour le mod ! T'es beau.

@Owens, si tu peux recheck les hitsounds, vu que j'ai retiré des objets de la map pour en mettre d'autres. Ca évitera un autre mod pour les hitsounds comme ça. Et aussi, je suis désolé pour le temps que j'ai mis a répondre au mod

Code pour ma diff

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Artist:Manami Numakura
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Creator:Owens
Version:Pachiru's Normal
Source:風夏
Tags:fuuka yuu anime climbers opening Realazy Meg Pachiru Kyuukai Yaleufeu
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Kurai

osu! Alumni

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Joined March 2009

Kurai 2017-09-03T16:32:47+00:00

Good luck!

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2017-09-03T17:03:33+00:00

Fix tags on Pachiru's diff before qualify~
And clean some patterns like this one 00:18:131 (4,5,1) - (Extra)

Meg

1,617 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2017-09-03T23:46:11+00:00

:O

Owens

167 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Owens 2017-09-04T10:58:32+00:00

Meg wrote:
:O

:O !!!

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-09-05T16:33:44+00:00

hi, i have just one question about extra diff of owens

00:59:192 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) -

u could see that 00:59:863 (1) - has a lot of strength in the vocals, but it's very small and comfortable spacing to hit. so it actually feels very weak in gameplay. maybe you could consider buffing the spacing to here instead of a big jump to 3? since the rest of the section focuses on vocals very much (all the offbeat sliders) it makes sense to emphasize the vocals more here instead of the snare

01:02:879 (4,1) - same thing, rly small spacing o.o

also other minor suggestion: 01:19:472 (1) - as a circle with 1/1 gap would be kinda cool to show that the drums completely stop.

Pachiru

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Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-09-06T12:01:44+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Fix tags on Pachiru's diff before qualify~

I feel offensed...

Owens

167 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Owens 2017-09-17T21:42:52+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
hi, i have just one question about extra diff of owens

00:59:192 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) -

u could see that 00:59:863 (1) - has a lot of strength in the vocals, but it's very small and comfortable spacing to hit. so it actually feels very weak in gameplay. maybe you could consider buffing the spacing to here instead of a big jump to 3? since the rest of the section focuses on vocals very much (all the offbeat sliders) it makes sense to emphasize the vocals more here instead of the snare

01:02:879 (4,1) - same thing, rly small spacing o.o

also other minor suggestion: 01:19:472 (1) - as a circle with 1/1 gap would be kinda cool to show that the drums completely stop.

thanks for theses suggestions, i got everything but i like the map this way tbh, i mean small spacing you noticed could be higher ofc but it feels comfortable if its not :s

Kurai

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Kurai 2017-10-17T14:26:49+00:00

rebub

Chewin

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Chewin 2017-12-07T00:16:21+00:00

checking old bubbles

General

No video?

Kyuukai's Easy

00:04:723 (3) - I would feel more confident with the rhythm if you extended this slider of 1/2 for two reasons: the sound on the white tick is much more stronger than the red tick and the 1/2 snap with 00:04:723 (3,1) - would emphasize the upcoming section better;
00:21:818 (1,2,3,4) - Weird mix of 1/1 snapping between red and white tick. I would just use the same rhythm you used on the previous section at 00:16:287 (1,2) - since the melody is the same and the rhythm is more appropriated for the easiest diff of the mapset;
00:46:958 (2) - You forgot clap here, add it because the section looks empty without hitsounding on that circle since you already skipped the one at 00:46:287 - ;
00:52:321 (2) - Remove the addition:soft on this circle, it should have the same hitsounding than 00:49:639 (2) -;
00:59:192 (1) - Well I understand that this song is very hard to map for an easy diff but the rhythm is just totally random on here. Just apply this one that is much more better and easy and it's even a little more consistent with next kiai time start: https://puu.sh/yASPx.png
01:17:125 (3) - Clap should be on head not on the tail;
01:24:500 (3) - I would remove this circle to it would be consistent with previous patterns

Pachiru's Normal

I will be honest to you, I find this diff really hard for a Normal lol (I asked some other BN opinion), so I will ask you to delete some circles to make a more acceptable spread and to make some changes (by following only higher vocal pitches so you don't have to spam circles and slider for every vocal starting..) I know I am asking you a lot and I hate that but I have to for an appropriated spread:
00:18:969 (6) - Remove a repeat and move this slider 1/2 after so it starts on the downbeat and the tick at 00:18:969 - will be empty;
00:24:332 (5) - Same this for this;
00:27:684 (2) - Remove circle so the 00:27:852 (3) - will emphasize the vocal much more better because I can't ask you to delete the 00:28:354 (4) - because of clap/drum sound on bg music so remove it to have a break in the pattern;
00:30:366 (2) - Remove circle;
00:32:209 (1) - I know you following the vocal here but I would use just a circle on this and an 1/2 slider (or just a circle, even better) on 00:32:544 - to make the downbeat clickable;
00:38:410 (2) - Remove one reverse;
00:39:751 (5) - Delete circle;
00:41:762 (4) - Delete circle;
00:43:773 (2) - ^ 00:47:796 (4) -
00:59:695 - Will ask you to add circle here instead, so you can delete it at 01:00:366 (3) - and 01:01:706 (6) - (do not forget to add clap on it)
01:05:561 (3) - Change it with a circle;
01:07:907 (3) - Remove this and use an 1/2 repeating slider at 01:08:075 - so you can make an easier rhythm by deleting 01:08:243 (4) - as well
01:11:092 (4,8) - Delete these too;
01:15:114 (6) - Remove slider here and use a circle on the red tick only instead;
01:21:148 (2) - Just use a circle instead than slider;
01:22:656 (2) - Delete this;
00:53:997 (1) - Add clap on head;

Hard

00:03:047 (1,2) - Confusing spacing because the circle is not directed to the same direction of 00:03:047 (1) - like you did for 00:00:366 (1) - . You could just ctrl + g it;
00:04:723 (3) - Add one more repeat since the last tick is on the opposite direction of next slider :\
00:10:924 (4) - There should be NC here for consistency and remove it from 00:11:762 (1) - instead;
00:56:008 (5) - It would be nice if you removed a repeat here so you can add a circle on the red tick to make the final part of the section clickable. It's much more intuitive than this long repeating slider;
01:08:578 (1) - Move it a bit down it's covered by hp bar and it's ugly;
01:09:583 - The vocal is starting here so I would just remove a repeat from 01:09:248 (3) - so you can add a circle stacked with 01:09:751 (4) - so that it will be hittable;
01:24:835 (1,2) - and 01:25:338 (3,4) - Unexpected antijump after played this whole map with constant spacing ew I would just place them with distance snap as well to make it more intuitive to play;

Real's Insane

00:18:131 (4) - I feel the cursor movement smoother if this circle was placed at 352|192 tbh;
00:28:857 (2) - I would just make a curved slider that blankets the 00:29:695 (5) - because it's kinda weird seeing a straight slider directed like that after the curved one at 00:28:522 (1) - mh..;
01:01:035 (3,4) - All previous pattern that follow the same vocal are unstacked, why is this pattern stacked instead?
01:09:751 (6) - Not perfectly aligned;

Meg's Wind

00:14:779 (6) - The jump would work and flow much more better if this circle is placed at 258|384;
00:25:002 (3) - The break should be here instead for consistency if you check previous part, so move this circle 1/2 later;
01:17:460 (3) - Use NC so the previous pattern keeps the (1)-(2) combo logic;
01:25:673 (4,5) - CTRL + G them, it's better to me;
Very well made diff!

Extra

00:03:047 (1) - Same thing I said in the Hard diff. Just fix it by CTRL + G it and we are nice;
00:06:567 (2) - Why don't you stack this with 00:06:064 (2) - 's tail to make a come back cursor movement? More fun and smooth to play;
00:08:578 (2) - This stack looks random for me since you didn't use stacks on this whole section with same pitches and melody.. I would place it between 00:08:243 (1,3) - 's heads or idk just try to unstack it because the clap on the (3) needs to be emphasized with a different placement from the previous circle xP;
00:29:360 (4,5) - Switch their position with CTRL + G them to avoid this stack ew, stacks are used for same instrumental/same sound/ same vocal phrase/same whatever xD;
00:33:885 (3,4) - Exaggerated spacing imo, it's different from 00:33:215 (6,7,1) - since we have the (7) between them. I would try something different instead to keep the same triangle pattern tbh;
00:35:226 (6) - NC here;
01:08:913 (2,3,1) - Totally wrong spacing here. You are litterally using an 1/2 spacing for an 1/4 pattern in the same spot! Just move the 01:09:081 (3) - much more closer to (2) (it stays good at 128|232) and remove NC from 01:09:248 (1) - too;

let me know

Kyuukai

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Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2017-12-09T00:41:34+00:00

all fixed

Owens

167 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Owens 2017-12-09T01:56:05+00:00

All fixed for me too, thank you !! (+added video)

Realazy

Elite Mapper

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Joined June 2011

Realazy 2017-12-09T22:18:11+00:00

all fixed

Meg

1,617 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2017-12-10T01:52:49+00:00

Chewin

all fixed. awesome modding

thanks!

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Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-12-10T11:37:20+00:00

Also all fixed!

Kurai

osu! Alumni

7,734 posts

Joined March 2009

Kurai 2017-12-31T14:28:54+00:00

Rebubbled!

Chewin

osu! Alumni

4,082 posts

Joined December 2010

Chewin 2018-01-05T18:55:33+00:00

Hello and sorry for being late ~

Easy

00:21:818 (1) - There shouldn't be a clap on that reverse arrow;
00:37:405 (4) - I would move this circle some grid up because the bottom side of the hitcircle is out of the screen and it could confuse players (being anyways a particular rhythm for the easiest diff) because they won't understand clearly when to click it;

Pachiru's Normal

Carefully check the spacing between each elements, some are spaced as 1.20x and some as 1.30x for not any reason, also fix those spacing I will mention in the modpost because you removed the elements but forgot to fix the spacing;
00:19:136 (6,7) - Weird spacing and placement for the Normal diff, just use a regular spacing, same for all next ones like 00:24:500 (5,6) - : the diff is already hard by itself because of the forced rhythm (not your fault, the song is really hard to map as low diffs) so it would be better to make the diff in the clearest way possible;
00:29:863 (1,2) - Wrong spacing;
00:32:544 (2,3) - Change with an 1/2 slider to make it easier?
00:43:271 (1,2) - Wrong spacing;

Hard

00:02:209 (7,8,9) - Just make a regular spacing like all previous elements between these;
00:04:053 (2,3,1) - These spacing could confuse player. Move the stacked 00:04:053 (2,3) - further from the upcoming (1) or the opposite;
01:09:248 (3,4) - Fix the spacing, the tail of the slider should be on the same direction of the upcoming circle being snapped 1/4 and this is exagerated. You could even just remove a repeat;

Meg's Wind

01:10:421 (1,2) - Better to decrease this tricky spacing;

I think I am gonna rebubble this and let an other BN do the job because I am not totally sure about the diffs, except the last one that is ok to me. I do not want the guy to pop the bubble so I will just leave it as it is now ~ Let me know!

Kyuukai

1,511 posts

Joined December 2014

Kyuukai 2018-01-06T11:04:50+00:00

fixed

EWHF, EWHF, b+2,1, db+2,2,3

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Owens

167 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Owens 2018-01-06T13:05:33+00:00

I will fix for Pachiru aswell because he's busy

Chewin wrote:
Pachiru's Normal

Carefully check the spacing between each elements, some are spaced as 1.20x and some as 1.30x for not any reason, also fix those spacing I will mention in the modpost because you removed the elements but forgot to fix the spacing; Everything has been changed to x1.3 spacing so it's consistant through the whole diff
00:19:136 (6,7) - Weird spacing and placement for the Normal diff, just use a regular spacing, same for all next ones like 00:24:500 (5,6) - : the diff is already hard by itself because of the forced rhythm (not your fault, the song is really hard to map as low diffs) so it would be better to make the diff in the clearest way possible; Changed !
00:29:863 (1,2) - Wrong spacing; Changed !
00:32:544 (2,3) - Change with an 1/2 slider to make it easier? Changed !
00:43:271 (1,2) - Wrong spacing; Changed !
Hard

00:02:209 (7,8,9) - Just make a regular spacing like all previous elements between these; Changed !
00:04:053 (2,3,1) - These spacing could confuse player. Move the stacked 00:04:053 (2,3) - further from the upcoming (1) or the opposite; Changed !
01:09:248 (3,4) - Fix the spacing, the tail of the slider should be on the same direction of the upcoming circle being snapped 1/4 and this is exagerated. You could even just remove a repeat; Removed one reverse !

I will update once Meg reply !