20:07 DeRandom Otaku: can you please stop sending me your dick pics via discord? thanks
20:08 Bakari: no lol
20:08 DeRandom Otaku: then at least bubble my map
20:14 Bakari: mhm kay
20:19 DeRandom Otaku: dont get too much cocain
20:19 Bakari: okay
20:19 Bakari: i'll just get the usual dinner then
20:19 Bakari: some coke and a cock
20:21 DeRandom Otaku: a
20:21 DeRandom Otaku: ok sur
20:25 Bakari: let's pretend the thing above never happened
20:26 Bakari: we need a fresh start, so I can actually post the log and look sane
20:26 DeRandom Otaku: ay cool
20:26 DeRandom Otaku: you can censor the log when u post it thou gh
20:28 Bakari: I'll need a metadata thingy
20:28 Bakari: do you have a link
20:28 Bakari: or should I look for something?
20:28 DeRandom Otaku: meta was like approved already when monstrata bubbled 7 years ago
20:28 DeRandom Otaku: but can still give u
20:28 DeRandom Otaku: links
20:29 Bakari: yeah, please do
20:29 Bakari: I see various ways to write the title
20:30 DeRandom Otaku:
p/606946920:34 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1273195 MONSTA X - Beautiful [Normal]]
20:34 Bakari: 00:11:256 (1,2) - ;et's merge them into a 3/2 thing?
20:34 Bakari: it doesn't really work as two 1/1 sliders because the sounds are too dense and we can't bring out specific 1/1 beats
20:35 Bakari: so, we just throw everything and cover with a 3/2 slider
20:35 DeRandom Otaku: ok sounds cool can do
20:36 DeRandom Otaku: ok i did 3/2 and it kind sounds less drastic to me for some reason
20:37 DeRandom Otaku: can u like give me a screen shot of a rhythm thats on your mind?
20:38 Bakari:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9141080 20:39 DeRandom Otaku: did
20:40 Bakari: 00:54:308 (2,3) - these are here for the vocals, right?
20:41 DeRandom Otaku: yep
20:42 Bakari:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9141103 wouldn't this rhthm work better in this case?
20:42 Bakari: it kind of separates the two parts of the vocals, which seems to make more sense
20:45 DeRandom Otaku: i guess i will have to keep mine here since the gap at 00:54:891 -
20:45 DeRandom Otaku: sounds kind of weird to me
20:46 Bakari: 00:54:891 - it kinda is there even with your rhythm though
20:46 DeRandom Otaku: i know but still sliderslider>nothing right?
20:47 Bakari: there's the sliderslide effect
20:47 Bakari: the difference is how you ignore the beat, while either holding a slider or not holding it :p
20:48 DeRandom Otaku: oh well
20:48 DeRandom Otaku: i guess you got the point
20:48 DeRandom Otaku: i fixed it according to your suggestion
20:48 Bakari: can we discuss 01:10:476 (5) - this slider and 01:13:593 (5) - a similar one here?
20:49 Bakari: don't they begin on one sentence, and end on something entirely different?
20:50 DeRandom Otaku: ye right
20:50 Bakari: as in, splitting them would be a better idea, so that 01:14:177 - the word "to" is mapped
20:50 DeRandom Otaku: so what are you trying to imply exactly?
20:50 Bakari: 01:11:060 - same here, I've no idea about the lyrics, but isn't it too strong to have just a slidertail?
20:50 DeRandom Otaku: dont you think that would make the 01:12:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - part a bit too dense?
20:51 Bakari: depends on what you do with the slider
20:51 Bakari: I'd just go with two circles
20:51 Bakari: there are some 3/2 gaps, so it's not too sudden or unreasonably hard
20:51 DeRandom Otaku: ok that sounds cool, gonna do that
20:51 Bakari: + it makes players listen to the song more attentively
20:53 Bakari: 01:36:970 (1) - the reverse arrow seems to be snapped quite randomly, to be honest
20:53 Bakari: or am I missing something? what did you snap it to? i don't really hear anything there, so I'm really confused
20:54 DeRandom Otaku: ya this is like the part when i go with the drums in all difficulties
20:54 DeRandom Otaku: so its not random
20:55 DeRandom Otaku: because imo the drums play a really drastic role here
20:55 Bakari: 01:38:527 (3) - try a 1/1 slider here instead, then?
20:55 DeRandom Otaku: and they stand out to me more than vocals
20:55 Bakari: just add a reverse to it
20:56 Bakari: there's that drumroll thing, and it has a beat on 01:38:917 -
20:56 DeRandom Otaku: 01:38:722 - 01:38:917 - 01:39:112 - all these kicks are pretty much the same so i guess slider slider for all is fine
20:56 DeRandom Otaku: ya thats right
20:56 DeRandom Otaku: OHHHHH
20:56 DeRandom Otaku: ok gonna fix this too lol
20:57 Bakari: so you do hear the beat there?
20:57 DeRandom Otaku: 01:39:307 - i did circl here instead
20:57 DeRandom Otaku: Yea i do
20:57 DeRandom Otaku: thats for opening my ears :^)
20:57 Bakari: o
20:57 DeRandom Otaku: thanks*
20:57 Bakari: a circle is fine too
20:57 DeRandom Otaku: holy i cant english
20:58 Bakari: dw, i can't modding
20:58 Bakari: and yet here we are
20:58 Bakari: speaking english, doing mods
20:58 Bakari: 01:48:658 (4) - let's use the same arc-shape that was used for 1-2-3?
20:58 DeRandom Otaku: also before you mention i already fixed the rhythm for 02:08:333 - in second and third kiai too
20:58 DeRandom Otaku: and ya irk
20:58 Bakari: it kinda represents the same sounds and rhythm
20:59 DeRandom Otaku: oh there, i did the same thing as 01:42:424 (4) - here too
20:59 DeRandom Otaku: because well you know the 1/2 sounds start playing in the background
21:00 DeRandom Otaku: which could have a bit more emphasis by having a slightly different slder shape for them
21:00 Bakari: oh okay then
21:01 Bakari: 02:43:983 (3) - again, splitting the slider would highlight both 02:44:371 - and 02:44:761 -
21:02 Bakari:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9141257 like this, perhaps?
21:03 DeRandom Otaku: i dont really wanna have stuff like two sliders in a row 1/2 ones
21:03 DeRandom Otaku: i was tryin to go for a simpler rhythm her
21:03 DeRandom Otaku: because the song is calm
21:03 Bakari: then just two circles or a circle and 1/2 slider
21:03 Bakari: anything that'd keep the stuff on the screenshot clickable
21:04 Bakari: actually it can be simplified even to
https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/2g5Ej38w.jpg 21:04 DeRandom Otaku: ok did smething
21:05 DeRandom Otaku: eh i already did something else which works too so ya
21:05 Bakari: as long as it works we are cool, ye
21:05 Bakari: mkay
21:05 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1249464 MONSTA X - Beautiful [Hard]]
21:06 DeRandom Otaku: ok i am just gonna make the stuff consistent over kiais that i fixed in first one
21:07 Bakari: okay so
21:08 Bakari: why is this 00:00:736 (2) - tail muted, but just about every other 1/1 slider in the intro has something audible on the tail
21:08 Bakari: 00:01:515 (1) - 00:04:632 (1) -
21:10 DeRandom Otaku: since its just the very first part of the intro , the tail sounded quite loud
21:10 DeRandom Otaku: i raised the volume from 5 to 20
21:10 DeRandom Otaku: its audible now
21:10 Bakari: 00:13:787 - so, you have a circle here, yet just a slidertail for 00:13:592 -
21:11 Bakari: when you compare these two, it's quite clear that a stronger beat on 00:13:592 - is emphasized less
21:11 DeRandom Otaku: 00:13:787 - is a vocal and i prioritize vocals hardcore
21:11 DeRandom Otaku: 00:13:592 - iknow this snare is loud as hell but its no vocal so ya
21:12 Bakari: there's some echo from the vocals, though
21:12 Bakari: at least i hear something like "wow" there
21:12 DeRandom Otaku: they are hardly notieable
21:13 DeRandom Otaku: well u kno what ur point did make sense to me so i already made that clickable xd
21:13 Bakari: 00:16:515 (2,3) - i was just about to bring up this as one more reason to change the previous pattern
21:14 DeRandom Otaku: xd
21:14 DeRandom Otaku: well no need anymore
21:15 Bakari: 00:38:722 - is it intentional that you kinda map to the drums and ignore the vocals here?
21:16 DeRandom Otaku: nope , fixed
21:17 Bakari: and 00:41:645 (2) - this one?
21:17 Bakari: 00:43:204 (2) - they kinda shift the rhythm towards drums
21:17 DeRandom Otaku: oh my god i am so stupid af
21:19 DeRandom Otaku: fixed them all, gonna fix in second part too
21:19 Bakari: do i get an extra cookie for mentioning this? :v
21:20 DeRandom Otaku: you get 2
21:22 Bakari: o cool!
21:26 Bakari: 03:19:827 (1,2) - let's move them up, so there's a nice triangle of [https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/WjEK8E9i.jpg 3-4-1]
21:27 DeRandom Otaku: its a triangle now but i didnt move 1,2
21:27 DeRandom Otaku: i moved 3,4 instead
21:28 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247358 MONSTA X - Beautiful [Insane]]
21:28 Bakari: 00:00:736 (2) - volume
21:29 DeRandom Otaku: fix 1
21:30 Bakari: 00:22:554 (3,4) - can you explain what do we follow with this jump?
21:31 Bakari: I'd assume it was meant to highlight the clap, but the clap is on (5)
21:31 DeRandom Otaku: vocals ofcourse
21:31 DeRandom Otaku: the spacing b/w 3/4 might be a bit high buts its just for aesthetics
21:32 Bakari: and is this really readable? you kinda switch to the drums in the next pattern, 00:24:113 (3,4) - here, so it can be a bit confusing
21:34 DeRandom Otaku: well it is, its an insane difficulty which has a kind of gimmicky feel in kiais with that low sv concepts
21:34 DeRandom Otaku: changing instrument now and then gives a player an idea about what to expect later on in the map
21:34 DeRandom Otaku: also 00:23:722 - this part heavily relies on drums so yeah
21:34 Bakari: 00:36:580 (4,5,6) - also, can we increase the ds for this part here? the song implies some progression, so that'd work
21:35 DeRandom Otaku: sure
21:36 Bakari: 00:39:113 (1,2) - 00:40:866 (1,2) - do i get an extra cookie for being nazi about inconsistent spacing?
21:36 Bakari: 00:42:230 (1,2) - ^
21:36 Bakari: if we decrease the DS for these
21:36 Bakari: we can use smaller spacing for 00:43:982 (1,2) - these as well, and gradually increase it more and more 00:44:762 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - here
21:37 Bakari: so we'd go from smaller jumps to insane stuff
21:37 DeRandom Otaku: teh spacing is almost same visually, because in first and third case, players can abuse slider laniency
21:37 DeRandom Otaku: but since 00:41:645 (2) - was too close, i will give it a bit mroe spacing
21:39 Bakari: 01:06:775 (5) - hey, we can increase the ds here to highliht it better
21:39 DeRandom Otaku: 00:43:982 - for this part, the intensity stays same till 00:46:514 -
21:39 DeRandom Otaku: and then afterwards , the circle usage is increased to represent buildup
21:39 DeRandom Otaku: sure increased that spacing
21:47 Bakari: and that's about it
21:47 Bakari: remap irre's thing and I'll qualify
21:47 DeRandom Otaku: hl oy
21:47 DeRandom Otaku: he took like 2-3 months just to map before
21:47 DeRandom Otaku: i dopnt wanna wait another 2-3 months now
21:48 Bakari: you mean i actually have to mod it right now?
21:48 Bakari: damn
21:48 Bakari: i knew that the remap thing wouldn't work
21:48 DeRandom Otaku: yea i m sorry :c
21:49 DeRandom Otaku: i know its time consuming but i dont want you to stop loving me for that
22:05 Bakari: o rite
22:05 Bakari: add Ren to the tags