Tectre wrote:

So I modded it, but I didn't find much for me to pick. I found 1 issue though, and it occurred in each and every difficulty

Easy

00:53:644 (53644|3) - This note is out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. Change it to 00:53:619 (53619|3) -

Lefrave's Normal

00:53:644 (53644|1) - This note it out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This should be 00:53:619 (53619|1) -

Hard

00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|3) - This note is out of time, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This should be 00:53:619 (53619|3,53619|2) -

Insane

00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|1) - These notes are a tad too late, due to the singer falling out of 4/4 timing. This timing fits better: 00:53:619 (53619|2,53619|1) -

All in all, a very good map, but ALWAYS be aware that songs that are live recorded and not electronically made (like this one) have a tendency to fall ever so slightly out of time.

Other than that, very well mapped, and quite enjoyable to play!
Good luck getting it ranked!

riunosk wrote:

mod from queue 1234

ez

00:26:110 (26110|1,26521|2,26932|1) - can probably flip this so 00:26:932 (26932|1,27343|1) - doesnt stack on 1/1 for consistancy ill leave it, not a big deal
00:39:672 (39672|2,40083|2,40494|2) - can probably try to avoid this I made it like the other one, and removed the next note to be consistant
Great chart

le frave

00:08:850 (8850|2,9261|2,9672|2,10083|2) - can probably try to avoid this agreed
00:12:446 (12446|2,12857|1) - what are these following? nothing but they look cool, fixed
00:49:535 (49535|0,49946|0,50357|0,50767|0,51178|0,51589|0,52000|0) - hm, since its 1/2, not sure if you want to keep it although im sure it wouldnt be a problem, i have moved them around just in case|
Great chart

hrrrrrd

00:07:617 (7617|2,8028|2,8439|2,8850|2,9261|2) - fixed
00:09:466 (9466|1,9672|1) - any reason for this? (vocal maybe?) theres a kick
00:16:452 (16452|3,16555|1,16658|2) - why not try making this more flowy? that part feels fine
00:19:329 (19329|2,19535|2) - same as ^^ fixed
00:24:261 (24261|2,24466|2,24672|2,24877|2) - ^ fixed
Decent chart, not sure why there are stacks

i should not be insane

00:34:329 (34329|2,34535|2,34740|2) - can probably avoid it being insane and consistant ill leave it
00:49:124 (49124|2,49329|2,49535|2) - ^ same
00:49:740 (49740|1) - why not stack this right after a snare? that's the pattern i've been seeing so far your not wrong
00:51:384 (51384|2) - ^ yep
Decent chart

dagon bol
gud luk for renk

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

riunosk wrote:

mod from queue 1234

ez

00:26:110 (26110|1,26521|2,26932|1) - can probably flip this so 00:26:932 (26932|1,27343|1) - doesnt stack on 1/1 for consistancy ill leave it, not a big deal
00:39:672 (39672|2,40083|2,40494|2) - can probably try to avoid this I made it like the other one, and removed the next note to be consistant
Great chart

le frave

00:08:850 (8850|2,9261|2,9672|2,10083|2) - can probably try to avoid this agreed
00:12:446 (12446|2,12857|1) - what are these following? nothing but they look cool, fixed
00:49:535 (49535|0,49946|0,50357|0,50767|0,51178|0,51589|0,52000|0) - hm, since its 1/2, not sure if you want to keep it although im sure it wouldnt be a problem, i have moved them around just in case|
Great chart

hrrrrrd

00:07:617 (7617|2,8028|2,8439|2,8850|2,9261|2) - fixed
00:09:466 (9466|1,9672|1) - any reason for this? (vocal maybe?) theres a kick
00:16:452 (16452|3,16555|1,16658|2) - why not try making this more flowy? that part feels fine
00:19:329 (19329|2,19535|2) - same as ^^ fixed
00:24:261 (24261|2,24466|2,24672|2,24877|2) - ^ fixed
Decent chart, not sure why there are stacks

i should not be insane

00:34:329 (34329|2,34535|2,34740|2) - can probably avoid it being insane and consistant ill leave it
00:49:124 (49124|2,49329|2,49535|2) - ^ same
00:49:740 (49740|1) - why not stack this right after a snare? that's the pattern i've been seeing so far your not wrong
00:51:384 (51384|2) - ^ yep
Decent chart

dagon bol
gud luk for renk

ty bb
very halpfol

Asherz007 wrote:

y u ask me to mod agen

[General]
Tags conflict in Lefrave's Normal

Insane diff without I icon is grr; you could change to Easy Normal Advanced Hard if you wanted to, not forcing you.

Your hitsound allocation tilts me xD (Why is the crash hs on hitwhistle lol)
Also appear to be inconsistent in a couple of places so I'll try to point them out as well as some missed or shouldn't be there.

Hitsound

+w/f/c means to add respective hitsound; similarly -w/f/c is to remove them. I'm too lazy to type them out all the time, 'kay? (Reasons may not be given as to why. Most should be obvious.)

A generalisation that may not apply to all diffs. May have also missed some, since I was only checking through Hard and Insane for this. Mostly Insane.
Be consistent

1. 00:00:631 - +w
2. 00:03:507 - -w (there's nothing cymbal-like here)
3. 00:06:795 - -w
4. 00:07:206 - +w
5. 00:10:083 - -w
6. 00:13:781 - -c +w
7. 00:15:014 - +c
8. 00:18:302 - +c
9. 00:20:357 - -c +w
10. 00:20:767 - +c
11. 00:21:589 - +c
12. 00:23:130 - +f
13. 00:24:055 - +f
14. 00:24:466 - +f
15. 00:24:877 - +f
16. 00:25:288 - +w +f
17. 00:25:699 - +f
18. 00:26:110 - +f
19. 00:26:521 - +f
20. 00:27:343 - -w +c
21. 00:34:329 - -c +f
22. 00:34:432 - -f +c
23. 00:35:973 - -c
24. 00:36:076 - +c
25. 00:38:747 - +c
26. 00:39:158 - +c
27. 00:39:774 - +c
28. 00:43:370 - +c (p sure there's a snare here even on beat 1)
29. 00:46:658 - +w
30. 00:47:583 - +c
31. 00:49:226 - +c
32. 00:49:946 - +w
33. 00:52:514 - +c
34. 00:52:720 - +c
35. 00:53:130 - +c
36. 00:53:233 - -c

0|1|2|3 (Hopefully shouldn't be many suggestions I want to make...)

Easy

1. 00:03:918 (3918|1) - Erring on the side of "it's a double because it can be" here since 00:10:494 (10494|0) isn't even though technically representing the same sounds. I'd remove because there's no crash attached to it.
2. 00:13:781 - double for the crash?
3. 00:20:357 - ^
4. 00:22:000 - Kinda easier for me just to show you what I'd change. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8679561
   00:22:411 - snare couldn't be missed for me
   00:22:617 - double LN seemed unnecessary
   00:23:644 - crash
5. 00:32:685 (32685|0,32891|1,33096|0,33302|1) - Not a big fan of having many consecutive notes in the same hand for an Easy.
6. 00:38:644 (38644|3) - May want to do the same as at 00:38:644 (38644|3) for consistency perhaps? (It's effectively the same percussion here.)
7. 00:39:261 (39261|0,39261|1,39672|2,39672|3) - Could swap the LN placements for a little variation from earlier.
8. 00:46:452 (46452|1,46658|0,46863|1,47069|0) - Like earlier, not too fond of this. Particularly since it's in the left hand again.

Lefrave's Normal

1. 00:18:507 (18507|3) - I presume you're trying to follow the chord changes in the acoustic guitar with these LNs? Because that doesn't happen until 00:18:713. Just vocal and lead here. What you want to do with it is your choice I guess.
2. 00:26:007 - Note? You mapped the 1/4 drum roll which does continue on this note and the focus hasn't switched to the vocal LNs just yet.

That's kinda it lol

Hard

A few times where columns just have 1/1 notes for a while (like 00:07:206 (7206|3,7617|3,8028|3,8439|3,8850|3) ). If you want to change that, then by all means, but I'll overlook that for everything else.

1. 00:10:494 (10494|1,10904|3,11110|2) - I think you're trying to follow the guitar with these? Because right now 00:10:904 (10904|3) is a ghost since the second guitar note is actually at 00:10:802, 1/4 earlier. Also, this idea doesn't appear in Insane, so whether you want to keep this in is up to you.
2. 00:13:165 (13165|1,13165|0,13576|2,13576|3) - trying to keep a gap between this and Insane, I understand what you're trying to do. What could be done is, since only 00:13:370 has the extra emphasis because of the kick, you could make these two singles.
3. 00:13:781 (13781|0,13781|3) - Can't quite figure out what's being followed with these LNs. It's different to Insane, so I'm not sure where the consistency is, either.
4. 00:25:288 (25288|0,25288|3) - Double LNs for vocals because whyyyyyy (make at least one a short note)
5. 00:34:329 (34329|3,34432|2,34535|1) - Feels a bit nitpicky, but this is the only time where this kick-snare thing that happens is represented with a roll, which I find a little odd. Could just move 00:34:432 (34432|2) into col 0.
   
   Actually, that being said, the rest of the time it kinda looks like 00:35:973 (35973|2,36076|3,36178|1) so vary it up a little.
6. 00:53:644 (53644|2,53644|3) - I don't understand why a double is needed for just the vocals.

Insane

#consistencyiswhere

Honestly, are crashes and snares triples or doubles? Because sometimes they're one, sometimes they're the other, particularly at the start. Mostly it lol

1. 00:22:617 (22617|0) - Could finish at 00:23:233.
2. 00:23:028 (23028|2,23233|2,23439|2,23644|2) - stack... might be awkward.
3. 00:24:672 (24672|0,24672|3,24877|3,24877|0,25083|3,25083|0,25288|0,25288|3) - Could vary the triples a little bit more
4. 00:34:329 (34329|0,34329|2,34432|3,34432|1,34535|2) - This kind of pattern appears slightly too often
5. 00:53:644 (53644|1,53644|2) - Double LNs again? Why not make 00:53:233 (53233|1) an LN and end in the same place?

Hope this helps... again.

Asherz007 wrote:

Now how the hell did I end up looking at this a third time

mini-irc

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2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: i got that guy yesterdat
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: to have a peak at starring star
2017-09-10 05:52 Asherz007: who's that guy
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: and he brought my attention to a few things no one noticed
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: Laughing comet powerpoints mapper
2017-09-10 05:52 Asherz007: oh right
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-09-10 05:52 CrumpetFiddler: 00:01:041 (1041|1,1247|1,1452|0,1658|0,1863|1,2069|1,2274|0,2891|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:01:041 (1041|1,1247|1,1452|0,1658|0,1863|1,2069|1,2274|0,2891|0,9672|1,9877|1,10083|0,10288|0,10494|1,10699|1,10904|0,11110|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 Asherz007: nice hand balance
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:09:672 (9672|1,9877|1,10083|0,10288|0,10494|1,10699|1,10904|0,11110|0) -
2017-09-10 05:53 Asherz007: nice hand balance again
2017-09-10 05:53 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah lol
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: thats the apparent thing he said
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: which no one really picked me up on XD
2017-09-10 05:54 Asherz007: Just redistribute the ministacks so that there's one in each column each time around
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: Exactly
2017-09-10 05:54 CrumpetFiddler: im gunna do that now XD
2017-09-10 05:54 Asherz007: lol
2017-09-10 05:55 Asherz007: 00:24:261 (24261|1,24466|1,24672|1,24877|0,25083|0,25288|0) - btw
2017-09-10 05:56 CrumpetFiddler: thats less of a deal
2017-09-10 05:57 Asherz007: less of a deal but could one of these stacks be in rh at least
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: uhh
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: control+H this
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: 00:24:055 (24055|3,24055|2,24261|0,24261|1,24466|1,24466|2,24672|1,24672|3,24877|0,24877|2) -
2017-09-10 05:57 CrumpetFiddler: does tht look better?
2017-09-10 05:57 Asherz007: Suppose I should ask why 00:25:083 (25083|0,25083|3,25083|1) - is a triple
2017-09-10 05:58 CrumpetFiddler: pre sure maxus suggested that
2017-09-10 05:58 CrumpetFiddler: he said iirc to emphasise the pattern increasing
2017-09-10 05:58 Asherz007: :thinking
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: do you think its better as a double
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: ill take your input
2017-09-10 05:59 Asherz007: idk it looks annoying as a triple bc it breaks consistency
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: made it to a double in cols 2,3
2017-09-10 05:59 CrumpetFiddler: looks better
2017-09-10 06:00 Asherz007: Could just remove stacks altogether and go for left to right progression if you wanted https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9056211
2017-09-10 06:00 CrumpetFiddler: i like the variation in the patterns
2017-09-10 06:00 CrumpetFiddler: id like to kinda keep it a similar style to as it is
2017-09-10 06:00 Asherz007: Sure
2017-09-10 06:01 CrumpetFiddler: maybe this can get ranked XD
2017-09-10 06:01 CrumpetFiddler: id like that to be the final reslt
2017-09-10 06:02 Asherz007: Let's hope so
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: im just happy that im seeing things that can be improved
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: this little sesh has been more helpful than like
2017-09-10 06:02 CrumpetFiddler: maybe 5 mods
2017-09-10 06:02 Asherz007: 00:31:863 (31863|1,31863|2,32069|3,32274|0,32274|2,32480|3,32685|1,32685|0,32788|3,32788|2,32891|1,33096|2,33096|3,33302|1,33507|2,33507|0) - I sense copypasta
2017-09-10 06:03 Asherz007: 00:45:014 (45014|1,45014|2,45220|3,45425|0,45425|2,45630|3,45836|1,45836|0,45939|3,45939|2,46041|1,46247|3,46247|2,46452|1,46658|2,46658|0) - 
2017-09-10 06:03 CrumpetFiddler: i believe it is
2017-09-10 06:03 Asherz007: pls no copypasta D:
2017-09-10 06:03 CrumpetFiddler: how can i vary that? the lns follow the correct pitch
2017-09-10 06:04 CrumpetFiddler: theres not too much at all to change
2017-09-10 06:05 Asherz007: I mean the double in the middle kinda makes things awkward for pattern rearrangement
2017-09-10 06:06 Asherz007: If all else fails, I'd at least flip the entire thing
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: you reckon
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: does it even make sense
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: like
2017-09-10 06:06 CrumpetFiddler: with the pitch?
2017-09-10 06:06 Asherz007: It'd just be reverse PR which is also fine
2017-09-10 06:08 Asherz007: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9056251 like I tried a rearrange and it kinda looks meh tbh
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: flipping plays alright
2017-09-10 06:08 Asherz007: flipping should play alright because it played alright in the first place lol
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: with ur image the double in the middle is noticeable
2017-09-10 06:08 CrumpetFiddler: for a <3* song
2017-09-10 06:09 CrumpetFiddler: that kinda jack is probably unacceptable
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: Yeah I know
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: Flipping it keeps the double one handed
2017-09-10 06:09 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah
2017-09-10 06:09 Asherz007: well at least it's not "identical"
2017-09-10 06:10 CrumpetFiddler: True
2017-09-10 06:11 Asherz007: I mean there shouldn't really be anything else objectively troublesome anymore
2017-09-10 06:12 Asherz007: btw how many notes are you mapping for crashes
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: wym
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: iirc
2017-09-10 06:12 CrumpetFiddler: i think its 3
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: 00:13:678 (13678|3) - might wanna move this 1/4 later then
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: Unless you're not for that bit then idk
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: hmm
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: in that case
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: bc 00:19:946 - also has double
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: 00:12:959 (12959|2,12959|0) -
2017-09-10 06:13 CrumpetFiddler: should i remove one of these
2017-09-10 06:13 Asherz007: why
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: i to make it flow better idk
2017-09-10 06:14 Asherz007: There's not really any reason to, seeing as there's a kick there
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: my reasoning was starts with one note ends with one
2017-09-10 06:14 CrumpetFiddler: doesnt really make sense
2017-09-10 06:15 Asherz007: You have doubles every 1/1 so to break that wouldn't make much sense either
2017-09-10 06:16 Asherz007: many many reasons why I don't like mapping LNs in 4k lol
2017-09-10 06:17 CrumpetFiddler: tru
2017-09-10 06:17 CrumpetFiddler: not enough to work with
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Litharrale wrote:

god so much irc

2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: yo
2017-09-14 19:01 Litharrale: wwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppppppppppppp
2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: whew
2017-09-14 19:01 CrumpetFiddler: reported for spam
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: w
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: a
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: s
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: u
2017-09-14 19:02 Litharrale: p
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: anywho
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: was gunna ask
2017-09-14 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: youll actually get muted like that XD
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: when u got some spare time
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: can u just gloss over my starring star map
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: not a mod persay , if you want sure i just wanna know if ive fucked something really noticeable
2017-09-14 19:03 Litharrale: sure but not now cause i'm IRCing with someone 
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: ik
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: you are with asher
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: i can see
2017-09-14 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
2017-09-14 19:03 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: thats also why im asking
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: to slow him down
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: ;)
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: https://discord.gg/CphJ5H
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: you can join that if u want
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: i just go there to talk
2017-09-14 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: its my server
2017-09-14 19:05 Litharrale: you're in the osu modding association yeah?
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: Probably not
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: https://discord.gg/b3Xarh
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: also holy shit i passed this
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: drop an introduction in #arrival and say i invited you 
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: and if loctav likes you 
2017-09-14 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9085169
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: you'll pass :^)
2017-09-14 19:06 Litharrale: nice
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: an introduction?
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: what like an about me
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: ?
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: nah just like
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: "i map mania"
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: but 3-4 sentences long
2017-09-14 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: How the fuck am i suppose to do that
2017-09-14 19:07 Litharrale: since this is the discord for all the QATs and BNs and shit they make you do an intro to avoid having all the scrubs get in
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: Like
2017-09-14 19:08 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/7wBUU4Z.png
2017-09-14 19:08 Litharrale: example
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: i mean
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: i can
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: but ill rave on lol
2017-09-14 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: Uhh sure, okay
2017-09-14 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: i got this
2017-09-14 19:09 Litharrale: i believe in you lad
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: Hey, CrumpetFiddler here, im an aspiring mania mapper and modder with the intentions of furthering other peoples maps as well as my own.
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: i got that
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: is that enough lol
2017-09-14 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: or what am i missing
2017-09-14 19:12 Litharrale: Way longer
2017-09-14 19:12 Litharrale: look at what onosaki just said 
2017-09-14 19:13 Litharrale: Say something like
2017-09-14 19:13 CrumpetFiddler: should i talk about how long ive been in it, and how i have my own modding queue?
2017-09-14 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: oh
2017-09-14 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: he basically spelt it out
2017-09-14 19:14 Litharrale: Hey, I'm Crumpetfiddler. I'm a mapper from X city in Australia. I'm an aspiring mapper and modder with the intentions of furthering other peoples maps as well as my own. I joined this server to improve my own skills as well as talk to other like minded mania mappers. I have my own modding queue here (link) and have been mapping mania for X time. I was invited by Litharrale
2017-09-14 19:14 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:16 CrumpetFiddler: there
2017-09-14 19:16 CrumpetFiddler: dun did it
2017-09-14 19:18 Litharrale: fuckin beauty
2017-09-14 19:18 CrumpetFiddler: heh
2017-09-14 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: Eeey
2017-09-14 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: i got complimented
2017-09-14 19:20 Litharrale: noice
2017-09-14 19:41 Litharrale: diff preference?
2017-09-14 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: I need all checked
2017-09-14 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: but the worst offenders right now are probably insane and normal
2017-09-14 19:41 Litharrale: alright lets start with the insane then
2017-09-14 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: i recently had to fix it so best case scenario
2017-09-14 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: there isnt much
2017-09-14 19:42 Litharrale: 00:02:685 (2685|1) - if this is mapped to the vocal, it's slightly too late
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|0,2891|0,3096|0) - this doesnt playthat smoothly
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: theres a guitar there
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: yeah?
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: there is to
2017-09-14 19:43 Litharrale: whats this LN mapped too? 00:03:096 (3096|0) - 
2017-09-14 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: 00:03:096 (3096|0,3507|3) - what if i swapped these 2?
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: end of the guitar
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: echo
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: oh I thought the LNs were for the vocals 
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: yeah flipping can work
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: I dont really hear the echo tbh
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: nah, not vocal mapped
2017-09-14 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: not there
2017-09-14 19:44 Litharrale: the flip plays great
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: in another diff i think i vocal map some of the intro
2017-09-14 19:45 Litharrale: be consistent across diffs
2017-09-14 19:45 Litharrale: the guitar and the vocals are really close here so thats important
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: that flip btw
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: :ok:
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: whew
2017-09-14 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: so smooth
2017-09-14 19:46 Litharrale: hear in the vocals in this bar here 00:03:918 (3918|3) - how it goes like "ka, ka-eh, kire" in 3 very distinct steps?
2017-09-14 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: I feel like you captured the second step here 00:04:329 (4329|1,4329|0,4535|0,4740|1,4740|3) - perfectly with the stacks but maybe you could do something for the 1st and 3rd as well
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: I'm not sure what you could do, but since the second step is so well, I think it's worth trying
2017-09-14 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: i dont follow
2017-09-14 19:47 Litharrale: mmmm, dw about it. If i do a full mod I'll go into detail there
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: im willing to see how it works
2017-09-14 19:48 Litharrale: 00:06:795 (6795|1) - should be doubled since its strong
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: but i also dont get it
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: that was a consistancy issue
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: i did it before lol
2017-09-14 19:48 Litharrale: ?
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: 00:03:507 (3507|1,3507|0) -
2017-09-14 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: thats a double
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: that one you pointed was a single
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: rip
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: they should both be doubles
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: fixed anyway
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: put a note to the right of it
2017-09-14 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: plays fine
2017-09-14 19:49 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|3) - I love the stack theme in this map but this section feels pretty empty, there's definitely more you could do here
2017-09-14 19:50 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|3,10083|0) - add a note on 3
2017-09-14 19:50 Litharrale: for the snare
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: its pretty hard to add much more
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: wait, why 3?
2017-09-14 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: thats a bit overkill?
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: because 2 would cause a stack
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/bpLm5NL.png eg
2017-09-14 19:51 Litharrale: 00:13:781 (13781|1,14398|2) - are these LNs mapped to the guitar?
2017-09-14 19:52 Litharrale: or the vocals?
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: the last ln is pretty questionable
2017-09-14 19:52 Litharrale: guitar or vocals
2017-09-14 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: G
2017-09-14 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2,20767|3,21178|2,21589|0,22000|3,22617|0) -
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: 00:15:425 (15425|0) - this LN should be extended to 00:16:041 (16041|1) - and this 00:15:836 (15836|2) - should be deleted 
2017-09-14 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: this stuff is vocal'd
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: 00:16:041 (16041|1) - the new LN starts here
2017-09-14 19:53 Litharrale: so delete these 00:16:247 (16247|1,16658|3) - two as well
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: just a sec
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: 00:17:274 (17274|1,17480|3,17891|3) - the guitar here is sick as fuck, imo you should map it
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: what do you think would fit better tbh
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: i gotta go in 6 mins so im just gonna blast these out
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: because i map vocals after
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: is it worth swapping between?
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: up to you
2017-09-14 19:54 Litharrale: just be consistent
2017-09-14 19:54 CrumpetFiddler: how it is currently is consistant, right? ;-;
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: fix the guitars kappa
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: then it'll be good
2017-09-14 19:55 CrumpetFiddler: im pretty sure it is? i havent really done a full mod of this map for a while
2017-09-14 19:55 Litharrale: 00:20:973 (20973|2) - move to 1 and 00:21:178 (21178|0) - move to 2 to avoid the double shield
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i gotta get dressed now
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: 00:26:521 (26521|0,26521|1,26624|2,26726|0,26829|2) - this pattern feels a bit unnatural try something like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/b8QkyhV.png
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i wont close osu
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: kk
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: but ima just do this
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: for the future me of course
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: 00:18:536 -
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: 00:32:274 (32274|2,32788|2) - bad crumpet bad
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: fuck, NOTE : FIX GUITAR SECTION
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: it actually plays fine
2017-09-14 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: and theres no way around it
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: lul
2017-09-14 19:56 Litharrale: not with that attitude smh
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: btw
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: this can 100% be ranked
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: ill help you push it if you like
2017-09-14 19:57 CrumpetFiddler: what, even as it is?
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: well with a bunch of stuff fixed like the things i mentioned 
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: but it's pretty good
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: i gotta go now dude, 
2017-09-14 19:57 Litharrale: cya
2017-09-20 18:02 Litharrale: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]]
2017-09-20 18:02 Litharrale: lemme know when ready
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: so i didnt change everything from last time
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: but i changed most
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: aight we'll go through the maps in a sec 
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: lets start with hitsounds
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: hopefully get  this to a "rankable standard" today
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: best case scenario
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: o boi
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: ok so
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: im the worst with those
2017-09-20 18:04 Litharrale: I'm going to use your insane as a hitsound base 
2017-09-20 18:04 CrumpetFiddler: but go on
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: and find all inconsistencies in your hitsounds 
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: Sure, that was the first one hitsounded i believe
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: so if we're checking the hard and i say "missing W" that means the hard is missing a W that the insane has
2017-09-20 18:05 Litharrale: does that make sense?
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: i get that
2017-09-20 18:05 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: (not trying to be condescending, people just legitimately dont understand what i mean when i say that so just making sure)
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: sweets lets start
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:22:411 (22411|0) - missing a C
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: nah thats just the hitwhistle thing yeah
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:23:130 (23130|3) - also missing a C
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: so this is hards comparison
2017-09-20 18:06 CrumpetFiddler: yes?
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: oh yeah whoops
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: yeah this is comparing the hard to the insane
2017-09-20 18:06 Litharrale: 00:23:644 (23644|3) - missing W
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|0) - insane as a F, hard has a C. Both should be a C
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: wait sorry
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: both should be a F
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: so change insanes?
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: plau
2017-09-20 18:07 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: no change the hard
2017-09-20 18:07 Litharrale: I'm using the insane as a base 
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: so im trying to make everything the same as the insane
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: thats all good
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: alright thats all for the Hard
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: next lets do the Normal
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: that was relatively painless
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: you expected more? :P
2017-09-20 18:08 CrumpetFiddler: a little lol
2017-09-20 18:08 Litharrale: alright now comparing normal with the insane 
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:00:631 (631|3) - very first note missing a W kappa
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|0) - W
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:09 Litharrale: 00:13:781 (13781|1) - this is F|C and the insane has a W|F, remove the C and make it a W
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:15:014 (15014|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:18:302 (18302|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:10 Litharrale: 00:20:357 (20357|1) - W
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/H680iZI.png not gonna link these all cause there's a lot, just make the norm look like the insane (left look like right) 00:23:028 (23028|0) - 
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:055 (24055|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:466 (24466|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 CrumpetFiddler: ill do that image last
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:24:877 (24877|0) - F
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:25:288 (25288|0) - WF
2017-09-20 18:11 Litharrale: 00:25:699 (25699|3) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:26:110 (26110|1) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:26:521 (26521|3) - F
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:43:370 (43370|2) - C
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:46:658 (46658|2) - W
2017-09-20 18:12 Litharrale: 00:49:946 (49946|3) - W
2017-09-20 18:13 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|0) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:13 CrumpetFiddler: thats more like it
2017-09-20 18:13 CrumpetFiddler: i thought that would of been hard tbh
2017-09-20 18:13 Litharrale: lmao
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: alright Easy next
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: 00:23:233 (23233|3) - C
2017-09-20 18:14 Litharrale: 00:46:658 (46658|3) - W
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: thats it 
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: e-z p-z
2017-09-20 18:15 Litharrale: update and ill recheck
2017-09-20 18:15 CrumpetFiddler: nice and painless. no way i could fuck up so hard on easy lol
2017-09-20 18:15 CrumpetFiddler: :ok:
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: fuck i labeled the update wrong
2017-09-20 18:16 Litharrale: wot
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: whatever, ill fix that next time
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: i have a changelog on the thread
2017-09-20 18:16 CrumpetFiddler: this map has gone thru 69 updates
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: shame we cant rank it rn
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: :^0
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: ok rechecking 
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: Comparing the insane to the normal
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:03:507 (3507|2) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:18 CrumpetFiddler: Heh
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:06:795 (6795|0) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|1) - remove W and C
2017-09-20 18:18 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|3) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:20:151 (20151|2) - same here
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:21:178 (21178|1) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:22:000 (22000|0) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:35:973 (35973|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:19 Litharrale: 00:46:247 (46247|1) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: alright thats checked one way and the other so should be good now
2017-09-20 18:20 CrumpetFiddler: coolio
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: Hard
2017-09-20 18:20 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|0) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:27:343 (27343|1) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|3) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: Easy
2017-09-20 18:21 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:13:165 (13165|0) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:18:302 (18302|2) - remove W
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:19:946 (19946|2) - remove F
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: 00:46:247 (46247|2) - remove C
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: ok i think thats it 
2017-09-20 18:22 Litharrale: Whatever you do from now on 
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: make sure the hitsounds stay as they are
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: cause i dont wanna do that again :blobsweat:
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: ikr lol
2017-09-20 18:23 Litharrale: Do another check yourself later just to be sure as well
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: it wasnt as bad as  i thought
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: but fuck hitsounding
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: i probs will
2017-09-20 18:23 CrumpetFiddler: ill reupdate the hitsounds ruuuul quick
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: lets do the insane first
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: since we did that last time
2017-09-20 18:24 Litharrale: if i repeat myself, just tell me lmao
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: XD
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: just quickly
2017-09-20 18:25 CrumpetFiddler: i want to talk about this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: 00:13:781 (13781|1) -  this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2) -  and this
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: not the one note, the section
2017-09-20 18:26 Litharrale: aight
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: these are one of the things i remember you talking about changing
2017-09-20 18:26 CrumpetFiddler: as it stands its consistant in all diffs
2017-09-20 18:26 Litharrale: Ah yeah
2017-09-20 18:27 CrumpetFiddler: im not really sure what to do about it as it stands
2017-09-20 18:27 Litharrale: wait 
2017-09-20 18:27 Litharrale: give me a second
2017-09-20 18:27 CrumpetFiddler: All g
2017-09-20 18:28 Litharrale: kk starting from here
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: 00:15:014 (15014|1) -  https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/oZAdRh0.png
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: The left is the guitar I hear
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: the right is what you've mapped 
2017-09-20 18:29 CrumpetFiddler: Yep
2017-09-20 18:29 Litharrale: the LNs youve mapped seem to follow the vocals more than the guitar imo
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: kinda, yeah
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: so the issue here is 
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: thats 100% ok 
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: 00:20:357 (20357|2) -  this section here, is mapped to the vocals aswell
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: but its weird because the LNs earlier in the map you said were the guitars and not the vocals 
2017-09-20 18:30 CrumpetFiddler: which is half the reason i also went for vocals there
2017-09-20 18:30 Litharrale: and since they're so close (only 1/4) apart 
2017-09-20 18:31 Litharrale: it's kind of weird to swap between them
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: Mmm
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: i get that
2017-09-20 18:31 Litharrale: Imo you should pick one and stick with it 
2017-09-20 18:31 CrumpetFiddler: i agree
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: that section i said that i mapped the guitar
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: thats the only other ln section really
2017-09-20 18:32 CrumpetFiddler: so i guess itd be easier to mess with that
2017-09-20 18:33 CrumpetFiddler: depends really
2017-09-20 18:33 CrumpetFiddler: what do you think would play better?
2017-09-20 18:33 Litharrale: I'm testing how the guitar would play
2017-09-20 18:36 Litharrale: aight check discord 
2017-09-20 18:36 Litharrale: i made a really quick middle section thats mapped to the guitar
2017-09-20 18:36 CrumpetFiddler: Geez went thru that much effort?
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: so uhh
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: cant tell if sarcasm
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: what do i do with that
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: make a new diff?
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: make a new diff
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: not sarcasm lol
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: open the .osu 
2017-09-20 18:37 Litharrale: copy paste it
2017-09-20 18:37 CrumpetFiddler: ik how to, just didnt know if it was a .osu or just the notes
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: i just tried it and tried to see what changed
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: and
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: there was one thing that felt really bad
2017-09-20 18:41 Litharrale: oh yeah those patterns are really  bad LOL
2017-09-20 18:41 CrumpetFiddler: 00:14:398 (14398|2,15014|1,15425|0,16041|2) -  this sections justified
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: not sure if i like it more than how it is, but it makes sense
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: tbh 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: if you want my opinion 
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: 00:14:398 (14398|2,15014|1,15425|0,16041|2,17274|1,17480|0,17891|3,18096|2) -  these
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: eeeh
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: i dont like
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: you should just do the vocals 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: all you have to do to fix the entire map 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: to make it vocal mapped 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: is shift the starting LNs 1/4 back
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: and you're done 
2017-09-20 18:42 Litharrale: while if you do guitar you have to remap a whole lot
2017-09-20 18:42 CrumpetFiddler: huh
2017-09-20 18:43 CrumpetFiddler: i mean yeah i see what you mean
2017-09-20 18:43 CrumpetFiddler: im not sure how much will need to be fixed to have it mapped to the vocals but as it stands i think that would be more "fun"
2017-09-20 18:43 Litharrale: all you have to do for it to be mapped to the vocals is move this 00:02:685 (2685|1) - back to start on the blue tick
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: and have this 00:02:274 (2274|0) - end at the same blue tick
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: then repeat for the other LN block at the start
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: I love the way it plays like that too 
2017-09-20 18:44 CrumpetFiddler: lemme move your diff out before i start editing
2017-09-20 18:44 Litharrale: because you have a little 1/4 stair in the middle that plays great
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: so this is insane right
2017-09-20 18:45 Litharrale: ye
2017-09-20 18:45 Litharrale: https://puu.sh/xEhlu/787f295e47.mp4 video
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131846 so make it look like this yea https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131846
2017-09-20 18:45 CrumpetFiddler: woops lol
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: you didnt need to make a video XD
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: hey i like making videos you cant stop me
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: altho puush is nice like that
2017-09-20 18:46 Litharrale: play it and see how it feels
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: sure
2017-09-20 18:46 CrumpetFiddler: hmm
2017-09-20 18:47 CrumpetFiddler: 00:02:480 (2480|2,2685|3) -  these being in bewtween the end feel odd
2017-09-20 18:47 CrumpetFiddler: that might just be me being nitpicky
2017-09-20 18:47 Litharrale: I love it 
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: Thats good to hear
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: Its good seeing progress finally aha
2017-09-20 18:48 CrumpetFiddler: did it for the second section aswell
2017-09-20 18:49 Litharrale: fucking fuck
2017-09-20 18:49 Litharrale: i tried to delete the diff i made and i accidentally deleted the whole thing
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1247702 KEYTALK - Starring Star [Insane]] <osu!mania> |4K|
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/fMSKe3K.png fucking
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: rip lol
2017-09-20 18:50 Litharrale: alright phone data dont let me down
2017-09-20 18:50 CrumpetFiddler: so all ive done is moved those 2 sections at the start the tick down as per your video
2017-09-20 18:52 Litharrale: alright back at it
2017-09-20 18:53 Litharrale: 00:06:178 (6178|0,6178|1) - btw the doubles on the red ticks 
2017-09-20 18:53 Litharrale: justification is the guitar sound yeah?
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: theres a kinda uuuuu
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: sounn
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: fd
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: sound!
2017-09-20 18:54 CrumpetFiddler: fuck english
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: ._.
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: ill just uh 
2017-09-20 18:54 Litharrale: accept that as it is 
2017-09-20 18:55 CrumpetFiddler: in which case its possible that it might need to be moved down a tick
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: nah keep it
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: dont want too many 1/4 rhythms in there
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|0,34329|2,34432|3,34432|1,34535|2) - these patterns imo are really uncomfortable to play 
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: I get that they're not 12|34 for variety
2017-09-20 18:55 Litharrale: but idk if the uncomfortableness is worth the variety factor
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: internets dying on me a bit
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: did you get my message about the jumptrill patterns
2017-09-20 18:58 CrumpetFiddler: About 15 times
2017-09-20 18:58 Litharrale: LOL
2017-09-20 18:59 CrumpetFiddler: ill savelog just for you lol
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: if you dont end up changing them 
2017-09-20 18:59 CrumpetFiddler: so the sounds they are there for are apparent
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: balance the direction they go in 
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: sounds?
2017-09-20 18:59 Litharrale: like for these 00:49:124 (49124|0,49124|2,49226|3,49226|1,49329|2) - ?
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: yeah
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: to balance the direction
2017-09-20 19:00 CrumpetFiddler: 100:49:124 (49124|2,49124|0,49226|1,49226|3,49329|2) - just gotta flip this yeah?
2017-09-20 19:01 Litharrale: yeah
2017-09-20 19:01 Litharrale: ctrl+h and fix the stack and its all g
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: Yeo
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: Yep
2017-09-20 19:02 CrumpetFiddler: all done
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: gratz your insane is now rankable
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: Actual?
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: thats all?
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: yep
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: well
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: i know normal will take some time
2017-09-20 19:03 CrumpetFiddler: but thats because the initial design isnt my own
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: wait
2017-09-20 19:03 Litharrale: is your GDer not doing it anymore?
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: Lol no
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: he made it about 6 months ago
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: ive done everything to it
2017-09-20 19:04 Litharrale: How close is it to the original?
2017-09-20 19:04 CrumpetFiddler: 6 months moddings worth
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: i already considered removing his name from it
2017-09-20 19:05 Litharrale: im gonna find out if you should or not dw
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: but i spoke to maxus and he said thats a no-go
2017-09-20 19:05 CrumpetFiddler: you can ask others if you want tho
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: yeah my gut feeling is you dont but 
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: meh
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: find out later
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: Hard time
2017-09-20 19:06 Litharrale: ;)
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: id prefer it not be hard
2017-09-20 19:06 CrumpetFiddler: but ah well lol
2017-09-20 19:07 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|3) - make the vocals consistent with the insane here
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: alright
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: did that
2017-09-20 19:07 CrumpetFiddler: uuuh
2017-09-20 19:07 Litharrale: abraxos said keep the name on discord and ill trust him
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: 00:06:384 (6384|2,6384|3,6795|2) - should i flip these
2017-09-20 19:08 Litharrale: 00:05:562 (5562|0) -  here too
2017-09-20 19:08 Litharrale: why?
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: nah ive done it
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: so that each ln has its own col
2017-09-20 19:08 CrumpetFiddler: or doesnt matter
2017-09-20 19:09 Litharrale: yeah go for it 
2017-09-20 19:09 Litharrale: both play fine
2017-09-20 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: cool ill do that
2017-09-20 19:09 CrumpetFiddler: that keeps consistant with insane aswell
2017-09-20 19:10 Litharrale: 00:07:411 (7411|0) - move to 3 and move 00:07:617 (7617|2) -  to 1 
2017-09-20 19:10 Litharrale: breaks up the handtrill in 1|2
2017-09-20 19:10 CrumpetFiddler: are you a 1234 or a 0123
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: yes
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: wut
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:11 Litharrale: 1234
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: yes isnt an answer to that
2017-09-20 19:11 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:12 Litharrale: 00:07:206 (7206|3,7617|3,8028|3,8439|3,8850|3) - idk how I feel about this stack but I cant see a viable option to changing it 
2017-09-20 19:12 CrumpetFiddler: it does go for a while
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: its only 5 though and the bpm is low 
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: it's ok
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: 00:10:288 (10288|2) - move to 2 
2017-09-20 19:13 Litharrale: imo making a stack plays well after the loud snare because you've got nothing else emphasising it
2017-09-20 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: true
2017-09-20 19:14 CrumpetFiddler: that sounds better
2017-09-20 19:14 Litharrale: 00:14:398 (14398|2) - remove, in the hard this is a double and in the insane its a single 
2017-09-20 19:15 CrumpetFiddler: aight
2017-09-20 19:17 Litharrale: 00:16:452 (16452|1,16555|0,16658|1,16658|2) - this is a little uncomfortable to play, try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131919
2017-09-20 19:17 Litharrale: it's still a little weird because of the first SN being squished between the two LNs but it is better imo
2017-09-20 19:18 CrumpetFiddler: it does look better
2017-09-20 19:19 Litharrale: 00:25:596 (25596|1,25699|2,25802|1) - 2|3 trills in low diffs are eh, just smooth it out a bit
2017-09-20 19:20 Litharrale: 00:34:329 (34329|3,34432|0) - making these doubles is fine, as singles they play kind of weird since the player is expecting a double anyway for the beat 
2017-09-20 19:20 Litharrale: just dont make the ones in the LN clusters doubles and probably only do 12|34 ones
2017-09-20 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: hows that
2017-09-20 19:20 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131932
2017-09-20 19:21 CrumpetFiddler: so with those notes you say to make doubles
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: eh i dont like that stack on col 4
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: lhttps://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131937
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: i got that
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: maybe something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131936
2017-09-20 19:22 Litharrale: yeah thats good
2017-09-20 19:22 CrumpetFiddler: ill keep that consistant then
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: your little screenshot actually feels pretty fun
2017-09-20 19:23 Litharrale: 00:36:178 (36178|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131939 mix these patterns up a bit 
2017-09-20 19:23 Litharrale: :&)
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: that theres needs the doubles
2017-09-20 19:23 CrumpetFiddler: same as earlier
2017-09-20 19:24 CrumpetFiddler: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131941
2017-09-20 19:24 CrumpetFiddler: something like that?
2017-09-20 19:24 Litharrale: looks good 
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: ok fuck i forgot this set has a video
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: cool
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: i cant download it because shitty internet 
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: yeah lol
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: so do me a huge favour
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: just the outro nothing special
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: and make sure it fits the ranking criteria
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: what up
2017-09-20 19:25 CrumpetFiddler: I made sure it was done well
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: sweet
2017-09-20 19:25 *cough* ripped it from the ranked version *cough*
2017-09-20 19:25 Litharrale: 00:38:439 (38439|0) -  https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131945 
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: spot the issue
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: do remember it is a stream
2017-09-20 19:26 CrumpetFiddler: but damn
2017-09-20 19:26 Litharrale: yeah it doesnt actually play that badly 
2017-09-20 19:27 Litharrale: its ok you dont have to change it 
2017-09-20 19:27 Litharrale: i would expect another BN to at least mention it though
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: like i can take jacks out of context too buddy ;)
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: how could i change it tho
2017-09-20 19:27 CrumpetFiddler: i would rather it be as good as it can get
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: uh just remap the pattern 
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: like 00:38:439 (38439|0) - 
2017-09-20 19:28 Litharrale: (dont do that one)
2017-09-20 19:29 CrumpetFiddler: wut
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale:  im retarded
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131951
2017-09-20 19:29 Litharrale: meant that link
2017-09-20 19:30 Litharrale: from 00:43:165 to 00:45:220 you have 1 note in col 4 
2017-09-20 19:31 Litharrale: reeee timestamps work pls 
2017-09-20 19:31 Litharrale: you get the idea even if the link did fuck up
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: modified ur screenshot a little
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: feels good tho
2017-09-20 19:32 CrumpetFiddler: just the end part https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9131959
2017-09-20 19:33 CrumpetFiddler: the end of the one you sent played a tad weird
2017-09-20 19:33 Litharrale: looks good 
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: that col 4 suggestion is the last one for this diff
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: 00:43:576 (43576|0) -  moved to col 4
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: looking solid af
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: 00:44:603 (44603|1) -I'd suggest moving this to 4 as well 
2017-09-20 19:34 Litharrale: it fits with the rise and fall of the vocals
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: do easy next tho
2017-09-20 19:34 CrumpetFiddler: i want normal last lol
2017-09-20 19:35 CrumpetFiddler: Yeah i can justify that
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: nah lets do normal first cause while I'm going, I'm comparing it to the diff above for spread issues 
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: so if we do easy then normal it might screw things up
2017-09-20 19:35 Litharrale: get it out of the way :^)
2017-09-20 19:35 CrumpetFiddler: aww XD
2017-09-20 19:36 Litharrale: 00:00:631 (631|3) - what's this mapped to?
2017-09-20 19:36 Litharrale: oh man this map is whack
2017-09-20 19:36 CrumpetFiddler: i considered deleting it for some time
2017-09-20 19:37 CrumpetFiddler: its so far off from the originals, almost feels out of place
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: 00:07:411 (7411|3,7617|2,7822|1,8028|3,8233|2,8439|1,8644|3,8850|2,9055|1) - very repetitive 
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: whats ur intake tho
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: consider deletion, or work with it
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: i mean
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: just from looking at the map now 
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: if the whole spread was like this
2017-09-20 19:39 Litharrale: i would not rank it 
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: i want you to be real
2017-09-20 19:39 CrumpetFiddler: I dont really like it
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: im not going to pretend that i do
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: What I'd suggest doing 
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: is just deleting it
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: it's a short song so it wont take long 
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: id be happy to tbh
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: and ranking it with this might be 
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: idk
2017-09-20 19:40 Litharrale: regretful
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: i can change the diff name to easy normal hard
2017-09-20 19:40 CrumpetFiddler: people kept telling me to rename insane anyway
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: .............i was gonna bring that up
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: Lol
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: you could do that 
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: but
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/lSZNtgG.png
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: alot of people have told me
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: im aware of that issue
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: you'd have two "hards"
2017-09-20 19:41 CrumpetFiddler: whats normal <2.5?
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale:  uh
2017-09-20 19:41 Litharrale: maybe
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: since easy ends at 1.5
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: just remap it 
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: deleting would cause a lot of problems 
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: ;-;
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: like now your spread is weird, you'd have to gimp the hard or buff the easy 
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: and that'd ruin them
2017-09-20 19:42 CrumpetFiddler: Remapping at this stage
2017-09-20 19:42 Litharrale: or you can go with it is as it is
2017-09-20 19:42 it's not *terrible*
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: it needs heavy fixing if anything
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: Up to you 
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: decide quick cause i gotta go in 17 mins 
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: and i wanna be able to be happy with this by then
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: uuuh
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: im gunna regret this
2017-09-20 19:43 CrumpetFiddler: keep it
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: aight
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: fix that repetitive patteren
2017-09-20 19:43 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|0) - move to 3 to stop the LN stack
2017-09-20 19:44 CrumpetFiddler: yes mum
2017-09-20 19:44 Litharrale: :^)
2017-09-20 19:44 Litharrale: 00:13:165 (13165|1) - maybe move to 1 to fix hand blaance
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: that makes sense
2017-09-20 19:45 Litharrale: 00:24:055 (24055|0,24261|3) - should be doubles
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: the end half of the song is better
2017-09-20 19:45 CrumpetFiddler: the intro is mostly the shittest part
2017-09-20 19:45 Litharrale: 00:25:288 (25288|0,25494|2,25596|1,25699|3,25802|2,25904|0,26007|3,26110|1) - this pattern hurts my brain
2017-09-20 19:46 CrumpetFiddler: i just remade one, what would you go for
2017-09-20 19:46 Litharrale: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/rWm0jzU.png
2017-09-20 19:47 Litharrale: 00:38:644 (38644|1) - move to 1 for balance
2017-09-20 19:47 CrumpetFiddler: i had a pattern almost identical lol
2017-09-20 19:47 Litharrale: 00:49:226 (49226|3) - move to 1 for the flow and to break the stack
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: yeah i get that
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: this ver is really different from the others, isnt that okay for a gd tho?
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: 900:53:233 (53233|1,53644|0) - flip them
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: yeah its fine 
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: well "gd"\
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: alright
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: thats all the easy to fix stuff 
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: flip what
2017-09-20 19:48 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:48 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|1,53644|0) - 
2017-09-20 19:49 Litharrale: wtf the link doesnt work
2017-09-20 19:49 Litharrale: 00:53:233 (53233|0,53644|1) - 
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: thats better
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: ill update real quick
2017-09-20 19:49 CrumpetFiddler: just re-skim normal
2017-09-20 19:50 CrumpetFiddler: also ill probably rename insane to Hard + or something
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: nono dont do that 
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: Loctav the other day was ranting about people who name diffs with "+" in them
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: insane is fine 
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: its not perfect
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: but
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: meh
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: alternatively you could give it a custom name
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: like 
2017-09-20 19:51 CrumpetFiddler: Lol
2017-09-20 19:51 Litharrale: idfk
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Thats a bad diff name
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: i dont know dragonball z that well ):
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: kame house
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: (dont do this)
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Thats dragon ball super
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: Smh
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: 00:02:274 (2274|2) - move to 1 for hand balance
2017-09-20 19:52 CrumpetFiddler: easy yeah?
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: 00:02:891 (2891|0) -  to 3
2017-09-20 19:52 Litharrale: yeah easy
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: 00:03:096 (3096|1) - to 1
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: 00:03:507 (3507|0) -  to 2
2017-09-20 19:53 Litharrale: this change doesnt really do a lot, i just think it plays slightly better
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: uhhh
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: that makes it worse
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: wait
2017-09-20 19:53 CrumpetFiddler: i cant read basic instructions mb
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: hue
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: 00:10:083 (10083|2) - not doing anything special for this one feels wrong 
2017-09-20 19:54 Litharrale: imo either make it a double or put the next note in the same column
2017-09-20 19:55 CrumpetFiddler: ill move that note to col 4
2017-09-20 19:55 Litharrale: 00:20:357 (20357|0) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132022 this pattern follows pitch better
2017-09-20 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: i can see that
2017-09-20 19:56 CrumpetFiddler: plays as it sounds
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: 00:14:192 - imo you should add a note here and here 00:14:603 for the beat 
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: since all the other LNs fall onto the beat excpet these two 
2017-09-20 19:57 Litharrale: the faster 1/2 rhythm actually fits with the vocals too 
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: that second one didnt work
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: but ik where
2017-09-20 19:58 Litharrale: 00:14:603
2017-09-20 19:58 Litharrale: check the time in the bottom left
2017-09-20 19:58 CrumpetFiddler: i did
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: but ur link didnt work thats all i said lol
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132032
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: oh
2017-09-20 19:59 Litharrale: (
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: 00:42:049 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9132031
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: moved em around a bit
2017-09-20 19:59 CrumpetFiddler: so there were no stacks
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: 00:27:754 (27754|3) - move to 1 for hand balance
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: ahhhhh its 8pm
2017-09-20 20:00 Litharrale: lets finish quick
2017-09-20 20:00 CrumpetFiddler: 8pm isnt that late lol
2017-09-20 20:00 CrumpetFiddler: and aight XD
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: nah i just promised myself id go to the library and study 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: and if i dont im gonna be behind
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: the library
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: at 8pm?
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: yeah my uni library is open till 1am
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: geez lol
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: alright 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: crumpet 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: ill make you a deal
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: Yep?
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: sounds shady
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: while im gone 
2017-09-20 20:01 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: if you recheck all the hitsounds 
2017-09-20 20:01 Litharrale: on all the diffs
2017-09-20 20:02 Litharrale: and make all the BGs 1080p
2017-09-20 20:02 Litharrale: ill bubble it
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: arnt all the bgs already 1080p?
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: lol
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: but alright
2017-09-20 20:02 CrumpetFiddler: ill check the hitsounds
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: they're 1080p in resolution
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: but it looks like they've been upscaled from 720p
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: shouldnt be hard to find good art for DBZ
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: if they are, is that bad?
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: DBS
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: !!!!
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: uh if you ask most people, they'd say no
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: unfortunately for you, i do care :^)
2017-09-20 20:03 Litharrale: make it pretty pls
2017-09-20 20:03 CrumpetFiddler: alright, lol ill change the images XD or find others that fit lol
2017-09-20 20:04 Litharrale: kk GL, send me a message on discord when you're done
2017-09-20 20:04 CrumpetFiddler: alright bb
2017-09-20 21:58 Litharrale: 00:13:370 (13370|2) - hard and insane have a F here but easy and norm dont
2017-09-20 21:58 CrumpetFiddler: aww
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: i thought i had it perfect
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: I think thats it :P
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: Damn'
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: 1 kds
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: where do u want it boi
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: save it 
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: im gonna upload a 7k set soon 
2017-09-20 21:59 Litharrale: (:
2017-09-20 21:59 CrumpetFiddler: Kd is irrelevant for me
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: Oh
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: ew 7k
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: okay okay
2017-09-20 22:00 Litharrale: tell me when you update it
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: just remind me when that does come XD
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: oh shit
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: cant wait to put that in the changelog
2017-09-20 22:00 CrumpetFiddler: added 1 hitsound
2017-09-20 22:00 Litharrale: lul
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: alright, thats done
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: also, i love that insane bg now
2017-09-20 22:01 CrumpetFiddler: looks so cool

Fixed all hitsound inconsistencies and smoothed over a couple of issues. Changed BGs too

YaHao wrote:

Qualify check
[General]
Not really important but the kiai time seems a bit too long, try to end the first kiai at 00:38:439 - then start the next one at 00:40:083 - (which is as same as the first kiai 00:26:932 - )

Changed, makes more sense

Change the source to ドラゴンボール超 then move the old one to tag (http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/)

Makes sense to me
[EZ]
00:10:288 (10288|3) - suggest you to move this note to 00:10:494 - , so you can emphasize the guitar sound 00:10:494 - and a "stop" feeling after the snare drum 00:10:083 - makes it stand out, me likey

00:15:425 (15425|1,15836|2,16247|1) - I know you want to follow the vocal here, but the guitar sound is quite catchy plus you did follow the guitar at
00:15:014 (15014|0) - and piano 00:13:781 (13781|3,14398|2) - . Change from instrument to vocal all of a sudden is bit weird, change to img perhaps whoops, my bad fixed
00:22:000 (22000|1,22617|0) - I dont think there is a break in the vocal (yes for guitar there is a break, but you are focusing on vocal right?) there is a small gap from when the vocalist ends and starts the next, almost like a breath kinda thing
00:23:233 (23233|3) - If this LN is for the drum roll, it starts at 00:23:028 - Your right there
00:38:644 (38644|3) - Using one LN to cover two 1/4 (one at 00:38:644 - another one at 00:39:055 - ) is not a good idea, suggest you change them to normal notes img(with 1/2 trills to show the drum roll) that feels alot more fun to play
00:51:589 (51589|3) - Extend this LN till 00:53:233 - if its for the bell sound Im not really sure why the ln was so short, thanks

[NM]
00:23:028 - Dont really like people using too much 1/4 on a NM diff, from LN (pattern in EZ at this part) jump to 1/4, the gap is quite big. Change to 1/2 normal note i will say i had the same feeling, normal felt more closer to hard than a small increase from easy, changed
00:25:288 - Same here, the 1/2 double is already quite heavy, you might want to try this img same as above
00:38:439 - Like i said, img change to 1/2 normal notes and use 1/2 jack to increase intensity to show the 1/4 (not gonna mention this 1/4 is ghost note 00:38:952 - same as above
00:52:411 - Here too

Last two diff are already good enough, just remember my mod on EZ, 00:15:836 (15836|2,16247|1) - , if you apply, remember to change these two on Hard and Insane i didnt forget <3

Call me after you finish actually try to catch me in game, want to talk some stuff about EZ

IamKwaN wrote:

the romanised title should be STARRING STAR or Starring STAR?

it's stated in video description of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCaDLEsqRhY and single cover

SPOILER

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