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Sayuri - Heikousen

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Topic Starter
Agatsu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on November 8, 2017 at 5:51:33 PM

Artist: Sayuri
Title: Heikousen
Source: クズの本懐
Tags: kuzu no honkai ending scum's wish tv size scums akitoshi corinn hazu-
BPM: 148
Filesize: 2763kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Akitoshi's Hard (3.33 stars, 195 notes)
  2. Easy (1.54 stars, 87 notes)
  3. Hazu's Insane (4.33 stars, 247 notes)
  4. Insane (4.48 stars, 250 notes)
  5. Normal (2.04 stars, 133 notes)
Download: Sayuri - Heikousen
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#3
by me
by Hazu-
by Akitoshi
by me
by me

thanks to akitosih and hazu <3
Dogerinoo
insane-
-ending is a bit empty like a cliffhanger
-reverse sliders at the transition are kind of off-beat.
thats all, other than that its looking good
Arow
Yo,
I'm not sure about this little break in kiai


Easy

00:02:988 (3) - circle here or extend slider
00:09:069 (2) -

00:25:691 (1) - if you want spinner here, shorten it to 00:27:313 - (ranking criteria)
00:34:940 -

00:44:050 (1) - you could end on vocal if you started on it (move end to white tick)
01:27:401 - you could map to the end



Normal


00:36:354 (7) - NC
00:36:511 (1) - delete NC
00:46:563 (1) - same as easy diff
00:36:354 (7) - ^



Yo.
Topic Starter
Agatsu

x Arow wrote:

Yo,
I'm not sure about this little break in kiai


Easy

00:02:988 (3) - circle here or extend slider applied
00:09:069 (2) -
dont want to make things too complicated in this section
00:25:691 (1) - if you want spinner here, shorten it to 00:27:313 - (ranking criteria) its short enough
00:34:940 -
applied
00:44:050 (1) - you could end on vocal if you started on it (move end to white tick) feels more appropriate to end on drum
01:27:401 - you could map to the end dont really want to because there's no instrumental support



Normal


00:36:354 (7) - NC i want nc consistency!
00:36:511 (1) - delete NC ^
00:46:563 (1) - same as easy diff
00:36:354 (7) - ^



Yo.
remapped a few parts to my liking
thanks!
missa1912
hi, quick mod from my queue~
Insane
this diff isnt bad, but the fact that u ignore most of vocals on the kiai makes the map feel repetitive and boring at that part :/
  1. 00:46:563 (3,4) - nc? also this can be an stream or something a bit harder since vocal and music intensifies
  2. 00:54:888 (4) - make this 2 circles to be consitant to other parts, like: 00:49:862 (4,5,1) - 00:57:401 (4,5,1) - 00:59:914 (4,5,1) -
Hazu's Insane
  1. 01:04:626 (2,3,4) - This feels a little awkward while playing, maybe try this?:
  2. 01:05:411 (1) - this shouldnt be a 1/1 slider(?
Topic Starter
Agatsu

missa1912 wrote:

hi, quick mod from my queue~
Insane
this diff isnt bad, but the fact that u ignore most of vocals on the kiai makes the map feel repetitive and boring at that part :/
  1. 00:46:563 (3,4) - nc? also this can be an stream or something a bit harder since vocal and music intensifies sure
  2. 00:54:888 (4) - make this 2 circles to be consitant to other parts, like: 00:49:862 (4,5,1) - 00:57:401 (4,5,1) - 00:59:914 (4,5,1) -
    for variety, also on 01:12:479 - 01:14:992 -
fixed some parts to emphasize vocals
thanks!
Botan

Easy
OPEN ME FOR CANDY
  1. SV seems a bit fast. I like how 0.80x feels. Lilyanna's mapset uses 0.80x as well. 0.80x would decrease DS overall which would push SR down a bit, maybe even below 1.50*.
00:02:988 - I think this vocal is too important to not map. 00:04:610 (2) isn't really at the forefront of the song making it feel a a bit weird that we're ignoring a stronger element but mapping a weaker sound.
00:19:610 (1) - Remove NC here? add NC 00:22:042 (2) for 3 objects?
00:33:998 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This whole section loses a bit of structure that was set earlier in the map.
00:33:998 (1,3) - First reverse slider is mapped to 5 vocal hits while the second only covers 2. 00:38:396 (1) also covers a lot more sound. I think changing the 2nd reverse slider into two 1/1 sliders fits the rhythm and structure more appropriately for two reasons:
  1. Density is not a problem since 00:36:511 (1,2,3,1) is denser than the red combo as it stands
  2. We can map a slider onto the vocal at 00:35:882.
00:39:024 to 00:44:050 - I personally would like to see this section mapped a bit more. It's too simplified. The intro is simplified well enough, this section has mores sounds happening than the intro so it doesn't really make sense for it to be mapped less. Spinner is fine.
>>
For the most part both kiais are similar so just take what I point out and apply to both sections.
Much like the point ^, I think we can make the kiai a tiny bit denser, add a few more circles in between sliders. Kiai and/or choruses should be the highlight of this song, in it's current form playing the kiai, and how it looks, feels no different than playing the parts before it. The longest string of 1/2 rhythm in the kiai is 3 objects. 00:36:511 (1,2,3,1) is the densest pattern in the entire map and it happens once and outside of kiai.
00:52:532 - Definitely add a circle here. For the reasons I just mentioned ^ but also because you mapped the same sound at 00:04:610 (2)
01:00:385 (2) - DS is 0.80x.

Normal
OPEN ME FOR BREAD
00:13:123 (4) - NC to signify start of a new section?
00:12:110 - Map this bubbly synth sound? It's mapped at 00:05:623 (4) <-- not sure if bubbly synth sound is being mapped or accidental overmap, points below will assume it's mapped to the synth.
00:15:353 - Same as ^
00:18:596 - Same as ^
00:21:637 - Map something here for bubbly synth sound reason + vocal?
>>
00:35:882 (6) - NC here
00:35:882 (6) - remove NC
00:37:767 (4) - NC for 2 objects?
>>
01:03:526 (5) - Is inconsistent with your established rhythm. I would use a 1/1 slider.
01:04:626 (2,3) - Consider switching these two objects around, slider first circle second covers the basis of what you want to map but it'll allow us to make 01:05:097 clickable. Circle slider feels weird.
01:05:882 (5,6) - Same as ^
01:05:411 (4) - I would NC here for 3 objects.
01:26:773 (1) - I would place this so that it's top-right of the previous slider. A change in angle (preferably sharp) would accent the intense ending quite nicely.
What's the reasoning behind the 3 reverse sliders in both kiais? At first I thought they should be changed to 1/1 sliders to keep the structure that you've defined already but then I realized that they could have been mapped only when a vocal occurs.

Insane
OPEN ME FOR FLOWERS
00:10:691 (2,3) - Decrease circle's DS. Very misleading since it looks the same as the 1/1 rhythm we've already played. 00:08:259 (2,3) and 00:10:691 (2,3,1) visually is nearly identical. I suggest stacking it and I'll continue to explain below...
00:12:921 (2,1) - I would unstack the circle here. The circle in this pattern represents a much stronger sound than the circle in ^^^. I think it's fitting if we gave this circle it's own space because the sound has more impact... or you could stack them both. xP
00:18:799 (4,1) - Yikes. DS is a bit ridiculous here. The intensity is no different than 00:18:799 (4) since they are both pitched the same but the DS is 2.00x higher than 00:20:826 (2,3) even though the second pattern has a larger gap in time and is more intense coming after a short pause.
>>
00:29:286 - Personally I would like to see this sound mapped, lots of vocal hits that aren't mapped but eh, you've established that structure in the map so it's... fine.. I guess...
00:31:170 (6) - Decrease DS? It's a pretty weak sound that has higher spacing compared to 00:34:626 (4,5) - 00:35:568 (2) - 00:39:024 (1)
00:46:877 (2,1) - Spacing is pretty nuts here. The intensity of the song peaks out at 00:46:563 and it surely doesn't increase any higher at 00:47:191 to warrant such a large increase in DS. Not to mention that 00:46:249 (2,1,2) - has a DS curve of 2.57x -> 2.74x -> 2.60x

JUST GOING TO QUICKLY LOOK THROUGH THE GUEST DIFFS.

Akitoshi's Hard
00:12:313 (3,1) - Any way you could make this overlap not cover the entire width of the slider? Looks really odd considering no other overlap in the map does it to this extreme.
01:05:882 (2,3,4) - I don't really know how I feel about this pattern. Looks so out of place and random considering everything else in the entire map is nicely spaced.

Hazu's Insane
00:53:789 (4,5) and 00:58:815 (4) - Just mentioning, not sure if intentional, same sound mapped differently.
01:04:155 (1) - A little bit too high DS? I think something like 00:59:129 (1) that has more intensity due to the crash cymbal, should have the higher DS if anything. Not only that but 01:04:155 (1) is the start of a section where the singer repeats herself more or less 4 times, each time increasing the pitch (intensity) by a little bit. 01:05:411 - 01:06:668 - 01:07:924
01:06:668 (1) is virtually the same as 01:04:155 (1) but higher pitch yet it has 0.70x less DS.
Topic Starter
Agatsu

Botan wrote:

Easy
OPEN ME FOR CANDY
  1. SV seems a bit fast. I like how 0.80x feels. Lilyanna's mapset uses 0.80x as well. 0.80x would decrease DS overall which would push SR down a bit, maybe even below 1.50*. 0.80x feels a bit too slow, using 0.90x instead
00:02:988 - I think this vocal is too important to not map. 00:04:610 (2) isn't really at the forefront of the song making it feel a a bit weird that we're ignoring a stronger element but mapping a weaker sound.
00:19:610 (1) - Remove NC here? add NC 00:22:042 (2) for 3 objects?
00:33:998 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This whole section loses a bit of structure that was set earlier in the map.
00:33:998 (1,3) - First reverse slider is mapped to 5 vocal hits while the second only covers 2. 00:38:396 (1) also covers a lot more sound. I think changing the 2nd reverse slider into two 1/1 sliders fits the rhythm and structure more appropriately for two reasons:
  1. Density is not a problem since 00:36:511 (1,2,3,1) is denser than the red combo as it stands
  2. We can map a slider onto the vocal at 00:35:882.
00:39:024 to 00:44:050 - I personally would like to see this section mapped a bit more. It's too simplified. The intro is simplified well enough, this section has mores sounds happening than the intro so it doesn't really make sense for it to be mapped less. Spinner is fine.
>>
For the most part both kiais are similar so just take what I point out and apply to both sections.
Much like the point ^, I think we can make the kiai a tiny bit denser, add a few more circles in between sliders. Kiai and/or choruses should be the highlight of this song, in it's current form playing the kiai, and how it looks, feels no different than playing the parts before it. The longest string of 1/2 rhythm in the kiai is 3 objects. 00:36:511 (1,2,3,1) is the densest pattern in the entire map and it happens once and outside of kiai.
00:52:532 - Definitely add a circle here. For the reasons I just mentioned ^ but also because you mapped the same sound at 00:04:610 (2)
01:00:385 (2) - DS is 0.80x.

Normal
OPEN ME FOR BREAD
00:13:123 (4) - NC to signify start of a new section?
00:12:110 - Map this bubbly synth sound? It's mapped at 00:05:623 (4) <-- not sure if bubbly synth sound is being mapped or accidental overmap, points below will assume it's mapped to the synth. accidental overmap fixed
00:15:353 - Same as ^
00:18:596 - Same as ^
00:21:637 - Map something here for bubbly synth sound reason + vocal?
>>
00:35:882 (6) - NC here breaks nc every 3 downbeats pattern
00:35:882 (6) - remove NC ^
00:37:767 (4) - NC for 2 objects? ^
>>
01:03:526 (5) - Is inconsistent with your established rhythm. I would use a 1/1 slider.
01:04:626 (2,3) - Consider switching these two objects around, slider first circle second covers the basis of what you want to map but it'll allow us to make 01:05:097 clickable. Circle slider feels weird.
01:05:882 (5,6) - Same as ^
01:05:411 (4) - I would NC here for 3 objects.
01:26:773 (1) - I would place this so that it's top-right of the previous slider. A change in angle (preferably sharp) would accent the intense ending quite nicely.
i prefer having a straight linear pattern between the last three objects
What's the reasoning behind the 3 reverse sliders in both kiais? At first I thought they should be changed to 1/1 sliders to keep the structure that you've defined already but then I realized that they could have been mapped only when a vocal occurs. i was mapping the drum kicks but the other rhythm variations are for variety

Insane
OPEN ME FOR FLOWERS
00:10:691 (2,3) - Decrease circle's DS. Very misleading since it looks the same as the 1/1 rhythm we've already played. 00:08:259 (2,3) and 00:10:691 (2,3,1) visually is nearly identical. I suggest stacking it and I'll continue to explain below...
00:12:921 (2,1) - I would unstack the circle here. The circle in this pattern represents a much stronger sound than the circle in ^^^. I think it's fitting if we gave this circle it's own space because the sound has more impact... or you could stack them both. xP
00:18:799 (4,1) - Yikes. DS is a bit ridiculous here. The intensity is no different than 00:18:799 (4) since they are both pitched the same but the DS is 2.00x higher than 00:20:826 (2,3) even though the second pattern has a larger gap in time and is more intense coming after a short pause. for visuals
>>
00:29:286 - Personally I would like to see this sound mapped, lots of vocal hits that aren't mapped but eh, you've established that structure in the map so it's... fine.. I guess... w
00:31:170 (6) - Decrease DS? It's a pretty weak sound that has higher spacing compared to 00:34:626 (4,5) - 00:35:568 (2) - 00:39:024 (1)
00:46:877 (2,1) - Spacing is pretty nuts here. The intensity of the song peaks out at 00:46:563 and it surely doesn't increase any higher at 00:47:191 to warrant such a large increase in DS. Not to mention that 00:46:249 (2,1,2) - has a DS curve of 2.57x -> 2.74x -> 2.60x
no reply = fixed!
super helpful, thanks :D
Akitoshi
@Botan fixed both, thanks!

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 48134
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
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[Metadata]
Title:Heikousen
TitleUnicode:平行線
Artist:Sayuri
ArtistUnicode:さユり
Creator:Agatsu
Version:Akitoshi's Hard
Source:クズの本懐
Tags:kuzu no honkai ending scum's wish tv size scums akitoshi hazu-
BeatmapID:1255205
BeatmapSetID:587728

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OverallDifficulty:6
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Affirmation
Q

[Insane]
00:08:259 (2,3) - I suggest blanket for better visual.
00:29:129 - add a beat? can be better for vocal.
00:44:050 (1,2) - Jump more like 00:44:364 (2,3,4) - ?

[Hazu]
00:36:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - I suggest you pentagon shape(star pattern) for better structure.
00:58:343 (2,2) - stack?

GL
Topic Starter
Agatsu

Neoskylove wrote:

[Insane]
00:29:129 - add a beat? can be better for vocal. section will become more dense than the next section
fixed unmentioned!
thanks neosl :D
Ali-
from my mod q, ill do my best

[insane]

first off, i think AR 9 is way too slow for a relatively dense 191 bpm map like this. something like 9.2/3 would suit it much better.

00:01:772 (2) - blankets off here, blankets only work when approach circles fit the slider track (sorry if im patronizing, hehe)

00:03:394 (1,2) - theres no symmetry here, which makes it look very ugly etc. copy and paste one slider, and then move it accordingly
00:09:475 (3) - blanket here is off, but ill stop pointing them out from here on. look at this guide for more info on how to make a good one
00:17:988 (3,1) - i think this would be a lot better if the slider tracks didnt overlap
00:20:826 (2) - maybe have this be more directly infront of the slider end?
00:39:024 (1) - this has a lot opportunities to be more supportive of your structure, but it takes none. (e.g., it could blanket the slider head of 00:38:710 (7) - )

the rest of the map is fun to play, and predominantly has issues already mentioned thus far (blankets, lack of support for your structure).

on the matter of what can be improved, i think that a few of your overlaps, while purposeful, can be improved using follow points. in other words, you can use follow points to make your partial overlaps less messy if you make it so that the line passes directly through the center of the overlapped hitcircle. to me, it looks a lot better and keeps your ratios/structure a lot more consistent, but if you disagree, power to you. its simply my philosophy.
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lovely map, you did a nice job on the hitsounds. a bit more work on some messy slider stuff, and this has a very good chance at rank.
Topic Starter
Agatsu

Ali- wrote:

from my mod q, ill do my best

[insane]

first off, i think AR 9 is way too slow for a relatively dense 191 bpm map like this. something like 9.2/3 would suit it much better. sure

00:01:772 (2) - blankets off here, blankets only work when approach circles fit the slider track (sorry if im patronizing, hehe) sure

00:03:394 (1,2) - theres no symmetry here, which makes it look very ugly etc. copy and paste one slider, and then move it accordingly wasn't really aiming for perfect symmetry
00:09:475 (3) - blanket here is off, but ill stop pointing them out from here on. look at this guide for more info on how to make a good one sure
00:17:988 (3,1) - i think this would be a lot better if the slider tracks didnt overlap i think it looks nice
00:20:826 (2) - maybe have this be more directly infront of the slider end? it wouldn't make sense to have unusual spacing than the others here
00:39:024 (1) - this has a lot opportunities to be more supportive of your structure, but it takes none. (e.g., it could blanket the slider head of 00:38:710 (7) - ) i think it supports the structure just fine

the rest of the map is fun to play, and predominantly has issues already mentioned thus far (blankets, lack of support for your structure).

on the matter of what can be improved, i think that a few of your overlaps, while purposeful, can be improved using follow points. in other words, you can use follow points to make your partial overlaps less messy if you make it so that the line passes directly through the center of the overlapped hitcircle. to me, it looks a lot better and keeps your ratios/structure a lot more consistent, but if you disagree, power to you. its simply my philosophy.
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lovely map, you did a nice job on the hitsounds. a bit more work on some messy slider stuff, and this has a very good chance at rank.
thanks for the enlightenment :D
Jemzuu
hallo from Q

[Insane]
00:17:988 (1) - maybe NC this slider since u didnt use 4combos in this part so keep the consistency perhaps
00:31:485 (1) - idk but this slider looks far visually why not blanket it with 00:31:170 (6) - then just adjust the next notes and overlaps after
00:35:882 (3) - i think u intended not to overlap this with 00:34:783 (5) - so maybe adjust it a bit to the left to align it
00:34:626 (4,4) - intended not to stack?
00:38:396 (5) - i'd nc this to emphasize the percussion
00:56:144 (4) - uhh dont u think this is p high mayb adjust ds as well as 3
00:57:244 (3) - adjust ds of this note? mayb blanket it with 00:57:715 (1) - perhaps adjust 4 as well
01:00:228 (1) - this too adjust ds it kinna touches hp bar a bit
01:12:008 (2,1) - idk overlap them? fix overlaps for 01:12:008 (2,2) - as well so spacing would be consistent with 01:14:207 (1,2) -
01:20:804 (2,1) - intended not to overlap or not
01:26:773 (1) - feel free to ignore but id make this a triangle for 01:26:144 (3,4) -

thats all gudluck too busy to mod other diffs im sorry hope i helped something
Topic Starter
Agatsu

AJamez wrote:

hallo from Q

[Insane]
00:17:988 (1) - maybe NC this slider since u didnt use 4combos in this part so keep the consistency perhaps im ncing every other downbeat this section
00:31:485 (1) - idk but this slider looks far visually why not blanket it with 00:31:170 (6) - then just adjust the next notes and overlaps after it doesn't look too far
00:35:882 (3) - i think u intended not to overlap this with 00:34:783 (5) - so maybe adjust it a bit to the left to align it sure
00:34:626 (4,4) - intended not to stack? yeah and it might be to far for (5) aswell
00:38:396 (5) - i'd nc this to emphasize the percussion breaks consistency
00:56:144 (4) - uhh dont u think this is p high mayb adjust ds as well as 3 i think it's fine for kiai
00:57:244 (3) - adjust ds of this note? mayb blanket it with 00:57:715 (1) - perhaps adjust 4 as well ^
01:00:228 (1) - this too adjust ds it kinna touches hp bar a bit ok
01:12:008 (2,1) - idk overlap them? fix overlaps for 01:12:008 (2,2) - as well so spacing would be consistent with 01:14:207 (1,2) - not visible during gameplay, it's fine
01:20:804 (2,1) - intended not to overlap or not ^
01:26:773 (1) - feel free to ignore but id make this a triangle for 01:26:144 (3,4) - not sure how

thats all gudluck too busy to mod other diffs im sorry hope i helped something
thanks!
DeletedUser_423548
M4M

Easy
  1. 00:09:475 - I think that you can pick up the vocals here
    00:02:988 (3) - Like this
  2. 00:23:259 (1) - If quiet mapping so far this sound is very uncomfortable. delete
  3. 00:37:453 (2,3) - If you match vocals I think that the rhythm with Ctrl+G is correct
  4. 00:42:479 - Why are you ignoring this sound?
    00:39:966 - I think that it can be picked up just like this sound
  5. 00:58:814 - 01:06:354 - 01:18:919 - Add Circle
    00:53:788 (4) - Just like here
Normal
  1. 00:11:299 (3) - Why did you put a circle here?
    00:04:813 - You should make a spacing just like here
  2. 00:12:718 - The sound at the end of the slider is not in the song
  3. 00:22:853 (1) - Remove NC
    I thought it better to match NC to lyrics than to downbeat
  4. 00:37:296 - Why not pick up this sound?
    00:33:998 (1,2) - I think the same as this pattern is good
  5. 00:53:160 (4) - 01:13:579 (5) - Why are the rhythms different?
Akitoshi's Hard (どこにでも居る)
  1. 00:57:558 (4,5) - Ctrl+Gしてみません?
    00:57:087 (2,3,4) - 左に流れてからいきなり00:57:558 (4,5,1) - で離れる感じだとやりづらいと思った
  2. 01:07:139 (2,3,4,5) - これだけリズムが違うのはなぜですか?
    01:04:155 - ここから01:07:767 - ここまでは同じリズムの方が良いと思う
Hazu's Insane
  1. 00:22:853 (1) - Remove NC
  2. 00:51:118 (4) - How about making this a position like an image? Image
Good luck!
Akitoshi

Yasaija 714 wrote:

Akitoshi's Hard (どこにでも居る) もうデフォルトって事で
  1. 00:57:558 (4,5) - Ctrl+Gしてみません?
    00:57:087 (2,3,4) - 左に流れてからいきなり00:57:558 (4,5,1) - で離れる感じだとやりづらいと思った ok
  2. 01:07:139 (2,3,4,5) - これだけリズムが違うのはなぜですか?
    01:04:155 - ここから01:07:767 - ここまでは同じリズムの方が良いと思う 声の高さ意識しながら別のパターンにしてまふ
thanks! :D

upd
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Title:Heikousen
TitleUnicode:平行線
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ArtistUnicode:さユり
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Version:Akitoshi's Hard
Source:クズの本懐
Tags:kuzu no honkai ending scum's wish tv size scums akitoshi corinn hazu-
BeatmapID:1255205
BeatmapSetID:587728

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.7
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Combo2 : 34,35,72
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Topic Starter
Agatsu

Yasaija 714 wrote:

Normal
  1. 00:12:718 - The sound at the end of the slider is not in the song that's when the sound ends, that's also why it's on sliderend
  2. 00:22:853 (1) - Remove NC i don't think so
    I thought it better to match NC to lyrics than to downbeat
  3. 00:37:296 - Why not pick up this sound? feels a bit too dense, 00:33:998 (1,2) - is to emphasize the new section and the vocal
    00:33:998 (1,2) - I think the same as this pattern is good
fixed others that were unmentioned!
thanks :D
- titan
hi, nm from my queue i think
SPOILER
Easy
01:06:354 (3,2) - bad blanket
01:06:668 (1,2) - you use a 3/2 repeating slider here, but not for here 01:04:155 (1,2) and imo it would be better if you used it both places

Normal
00:04:205 (2) - sharp angled slider seems unnecessary here + 00:03:394 (1) isn't perfectly spaced between the slider head and tail
00:10:691 (2) - same thing about the sharp angle (and a lot of the other times you use sharply angled sliders i don't think are appropriate. i don't feel like pointing them all out/)

Insane
00:08:259 (2,3) - bad blanket
00:11:299 (3,1) - why is spacing so big here this part of the song is pretty calm
00:18:799 (4,1) - uncomfortable to play imo
00:34:626 (4,1) - imperfect blanket as well
00:39:024 (1,1,1) - why are these slider shapes so different when they represent basically the same thing
00:54:417 (2,1) - blanket
good luck!
Hazu-
Remapped my diff based on your suggestions xd
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pkhg
hihi

[Insane]

  • why not just ar9
  1. 00:09:475 (3,1) - swapping these works better due to the hold vocal note on 00:09:475 -
  2. 00:20:826 (2) - well vocals end here but a circle doesnt really represent it well. extending the previous slider until this point or just deleting the circle are better choices cuz music doesnt support a circle. the only thing its doing is making the gap between it and the next slider shorter
  3. 00:33:998 (1,2) - music doesnt really supports such a large jump so what about doing this http://puu.sh/xydrb/b0af8b4131.jpg
  4. 00:49:862 (4,5) - 00:52:375 (4,5) - 00:57:401 (4,5) - and so on. id rather map them like you did with 00:54:888 (4) - or at least using less distance between them cuz theres nothing that stands out to. there are some that are kind of justified like 00:57:401 (4,5) - 00:57:401 (4,5) - 01:07:453 (4,5) - where 5 has a vocal note but ur map seems to be more drums oriented so what i said earlier should work better
[Hazu's Insane]
  1. 00:49:704 (3,4) - yo creo que la distancia es demasiada para lo poco intenso que es el beat. aunque hiciste esto en hartas partes asi que no se si lo quieras cambiar xd
[Akitoshi's Hard]
  1. 00:06:232 (4) - u better leave this beat unmapped like in the other diffs since theres literally nothing to map here also less density expresses better how calm the song is
  2. 00:06:637 (1) - this rhythm 00:00:151 (1,2,3) - works better here so u make all vocals clickable and delete 00:08:664 (2) - cuz vocals are more and u already shown that u priorize vocals on 00:02:178 -
  3. 00:30:385 (2,3) - right now youre giving importance to the white tick on (3)'s head while it doenst really stand out as much as the red one on its tail. ctrlging them fixes that
  4. 00:57:558 (4,5) - 01:02:113 (2,3) - you usually dont use such a large spacing for 1/2 consecutive clickable objects even if some shows more importance. the rest ones are spaced equally so u better stick to ds on those patterns too
[Normal]
  1. 00:12:313 (4,5) - higher density than higher diffs doesnt make much sense to me. u can maybe try something like this http://puu.sh/xz1iO/9fc72876f1.jpg
    well most of the beginning is more dense than hard so try to use larger gaps or sliders
  2. 00:20:826 (2) - same as insane
  3. 00:35:097 (4,5) - that 3/4 gap feels weird considering that u were following vocals with the previous notes. this sound more fitting imo http://puu.sh/xz1uT/9192f4c69b.jpg
  4. 00:35:882 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - ^same goes to this pattern. http://puu.sh/xz1z9/f04791fb79.jpg
  5. 00:39:024 (1) - 00:42:793 (2) - same as 00:12:313 (4,5) - i think u can even reduce the sv a bit here
[Easy]
  1. 00:06:637 (1,2,1,2) - the way u handled vocals leaded you to this pattern 00:12:313 (2,1) - which is very misleading cuz there are no hold vocal notes during the first slider and the actual one starts where the slider ends ignoring it completely, then we have this 00:12:313 (2) - which isnt following vocals like the rest of this section and gives importance to a faint sound. this rhythm fixes all that stuff http://puu.sh/xz1Tj/62ab78d0cd.jpg
  2. due to the really low density i cant really tell what layer of the music are you mainly mapping. id buff it a bit to make that more clear
    some examples are 00:28:972 (1,2,1,2) - 4 2/1 sliders doesnt makes sense for me but this does http://puu.sh/xz4at/ae30b1bf29.jpg
    maybe using more 3/4 sliders in places like 01:24:259 (1,2,3,1) - http://puu.sh/xz4mC/64507533ce.jpg
    increasing density in general would be great
gl
Topic Starter
Agatsu
titan

- titan wrote:

Easy
01:06:354 (3,2) - bad blanket fixed
01:06:668 (1,2) - you use a 3/2 repeating slider here, but not for here 01:04:155 (1,2) and imo it would be better if you used it both places might be too dense for easy so i variate it

Normal
00:04:205 (2) - sharp angled slider seems unnecessary here + 00:03:394 (1) isn't perfectly spaced between the slider head and tail idk,
kinda feels unnecessary

00:10:691 (2) - same thing about the sharp angle (and a lot of the other times you use sharply angled sliders i don't think are appropriate. i don't feel like pointing them all out/)

Insane
00:08:259 (2,3) - bad blanket i really can't blanket lo l
00:11:299 (3,1) - why is spacing so big here this part of the song is pretty calm it's for the triangle
00:18:799 (4,1) - uncomfortable to play imo it's ok
00:34:626 (4,1) - imperfect blanket as well
00:39:024 (1,1,1) - why are these slider shapes so different when they represent basically the same thing they actually get stronger
00:54:417 (2,1) - blanket
good luck!

pk h g

pkhg wrote:

[Insane]

  • why not just ar9 sure
  1. 00:09:475 (3,1) - swapping these works better due to the hold vocal note on 00:09:475 - idk, it feels a bit weird to me
  2. 00:20:826 (2) - well vocals end here but a circle doesnt really represent it well. extending the previous slider until this point or just deleting the circle are better choices cuz music doesnt support a circle. the only thing its doing is making the gap between it and the next slider shorter fixed
  3. 00:33:998 (1,2) - music doesnt really supports such a large jump so what about doing this http://puu.sh/xydrb/b0af8b4131.jpg okay
  4. 00:49:862 (4,5) - 00:52:375 (4,5) - 00:57:401 (4,5) - and so on. id rather map them like you did with 00:54:888 (4) - or at least using less distance between them cuz theres nothing that stands out to. there are some that are kind of justified like 00:57:401 (4,5) - 00:57:401 (4,5) - 01:07:453 (4,5) - where 5 has a vocal note but ur map seems to be more drums oriented so what i said earlier should work better fixed
[Normal]
  1. 00:12:313 (4,5) - higher density than higher diffs doesnt make much sense to me. u can maybe try something like this http://puu.sh/xz1iO/9fc72876f1.jpg
    well most of the beginning is more dense than hard so try to use larger gaps or sliders i did something similiar
  2. 00:20:826 (2) - same as insane fix
  3. 00:35:097 (4,5) - that 3/4 gap feels weird considering that u were following vocals with the previous notes. this sound more fitting imo http://puu.sh/xz1uT/9192f4c69b.jpg fix
  4. 00:35:882 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - ^same goes to this pattern. http://puu.sh/xz1z9/f04791fb79.jpg fix
  5. 00:39:024 (1) - 00:42:793 (2) - same as 00:12:313 (4,5) - i think u can even reduce the sv a bit here ok
[Easy]
  1. 00:06:637 (1,2,1,2) - the way u handled vocals leaded you to this pattern 00:12:313 (2,1) - which is very misleading cuz there are no hold vocal notes during the first slider and the actual one starts where the slider ends ignoring it completely, then we have this 00:12:313 (2) - which isnt following vocals like the rest of this section and gives importance to a faint sound. this rhythm fixes all that stuff http://puu.sh/xz1Tj/62ab78d0cd.jpg fix
  2. due to the really low density i cant really tell what layer of the music are you mainly mapping. id buff it a bit to make that more clear
    some examples are 00:28:972 (1,2,1,2) - 4 2/1 sliders doesnt makes sense for me but this does http://puu.sh/xz4at/ae30b1bf29.jpg
    maybe using more 3/4 sliders in places like 01:24:259 (1,2,3,1) - http://puu.sh/xz4mC/64507533ce.jpg
    increasing density in general would be great ok

thanks guys :3
Asuka_-
nm nm nm nm
im not good at enlglsh, modding.

Easy
00:19:610 (1) - hp
00:32:113 (2) - ^
00:52:218 (2,1) - intentional unstack?
01:17:348 (2,3) - blanket pls lol
01:21:118 (3,3) - you can avoid this overlap
01:24:259 (1,2,3) - i think there rhythm dont much music, because melody doesnt change until 01:26:773 (1) - and there are in kiai, so i think you should make the rhythm more difficult a little more. (but imo xd) maybe https://i.gyazo.com/43027c2cbd698e76137 ... 9aa5bc.png

Normal
00:32:741 (3) - hp!!!
00:38:396 (5,1) - you can blanket

Akitoshi

Yasaija 714 wrote:

(どこにでも居る) i agree
00:29:914 (4) - もうちょい上に上げて、前後の間隔を同じにしてもいいかも Aメロだしその方が流れていいと思う こーんな感じ 
https://i.gyazo.com/c72ec59d7cd19e89f78 ... edbb9e.png

Hazu
widescreen is uncheck only this diff.
01:13:265 (2,3) - there are too close, so i think not good flow here. maybe move 01:13:579 (3,4,1) - to 261:361 ?? (good to me xd)

Insane
00:19:610 (1) - move tail of the slider to 00:20:826 - ?
because you did follow vocal before here in 00:16:367 (1,2,3,4) - (slider's head, tail, reverse have big vocal),so 00:20:826 - which have big vocal is better than 00:20:421 - . (remove whistle).
00:47:663 (1,1) - nazi, blanket is off xd
01:00:071 (5,1) - compared to other pattern(01:20:019 (4,5,1) - etc...), they are too close, so you cannot emphasize (1) imo. move to 193:40 better to me.

fun map (^^♪
good luck!!!!!!!!
Topic Starter
Agatsu
fixed all from asuka!
Hazu-

pkhg wrote:

hihi

[Hazu's Insane]
  1. 00:49:704 (3,4) - yo creo que la distancia es demasiada para lo poco intenso que es el beat. aunque hiciste esto en hartas partes asi que no se si lo quieras cambiar xd Si, se que tiene mucho spacing, pero esa era la idea xd quizá los reduzca luego.
gl

Asuka_- wrote:

nm nm nm nm
im not good at enlglsh, modding.

Hazu
widescreen is uncheck only this diff. Agatsu you can fix this for me? thx :d
01:13:265 (2,3) - there are too close, so i think not good flow here. maybe move 01:13:579 (3,4,1) - to 261:361 ?? (good to me xd) Mmm... I'll ask for testplay, but I think is a good flow imo.

fun map (^^♪
good luck!!!!!!!!
Thankies~
Akitoshi
rp

pkhg wrote:

[Akitoshi's Hard]
  1. 00:06:232 (4) - u better leave this beat unmapped like in the other diffs since theres literally nothing to map here also less density expresses better how calm the song is
  2. 00:06:637 (1) - this rhythm 00:00:151 (1,2,3) - works better here so u make all vocals clickable and delete 00:08:664 (2) - cuz vocals are more and u already shown that u priorize vocals on 00:02:178 -
  3. 00:30:385 (2,3) - right now youre giving importance to the white tick on (3)'s head while it doenst really stand out as much as the red one on its tail. ctrlging them fixes that
  4. 00:57:558 (4,5) - 01:02:113 (2,3) - you usually dont use such a large spacing for 1/2 consecutive clickable objects even if some shows more importance. the rest ones are spaced equally so u better stick to ds on those patterns too increased the number of jumps instead

Asuka_- wrote:

Akitoshi

Yasaija 714 wrote:

(どこにでも居る) i agree
00:29:914 (4) - もうちょい上に上げて、前後の間隔を同じにしてもいいかも Aメロだしその方が流れていいと思う こーんな感じ fixed
https://i.gyazo.com/c72ec59d7cd19e89f78 ... edbb9e.png

basically fixed all, thanks uwu

upd
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Mekki
[easy]
00:09:880 (4) - u forgot a NC

[akitoshi hard]
01:05:882 (2,3,4) - weird flow u used here, it was the only time u used a angle like that

just get a BN for it, map is ok
Topic Starter
Agatsu
fixed nc
Akitoshi

MkGuh wrote:

[akitoshi hard]
01:05:882 (2,3,4) - weird flow u used here, it was the only time u used a angle like that i wanted to emphasize something different from 01:04:155 (1,2,3,4) - for the vocal changes. for the hard flow/angles, i used something similar or even harder at 00:56:301 (3,1) - 00:57:244 (3,4,5) - so it should be fine i hope
thank you for checking!
pishifat
ez
00:39:652 (1,2,1,2,3) - suggest using only 2/1 here. using 1/1 like this makes it pretty much the same as the rest of hte map (which song doesnt support)
01:01:642 (1,2) - ctrlg on 2 slightly broke the slidershape lol. should copy paste 1 then rotate by 180 instead
01:12:322 (2,3) - should gow ith some rhythm that covers the vocal/instrumental emphasis on 01:12:793 - . not following anything clear by skipping it

hard
00:30:699 (3,4) - follows vocals more clearly if rhythm is ctrlg'd. 4 seems out of place as is after 3 is vocal focus

hazu
00:33:998 (1) - try to make this section contrast more with the previous (since mapping staying the same while song changes is nonsense). easiest way to do that would be increasing sv

i can bubble if you mod heikousen 2 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/664417
Hazu-
Increased sv, thanks~
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176,100,81118,1,2,0:1:0:0:
176,100,81275,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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312,104,82218,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,164,82375,1,2,0:1:0:0:
272,188,82532,2,0,P|220:192|168:196,1,80,2|0,0:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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100,196,83945,2,0,P|96:112|92:56,1,120,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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420,32,84888,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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