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Infected Mushroom - The Pretender [Taiko|Osu]

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gaston_2199
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jueves, 26 de octubre de 2017 at 21:33:02

Artist: Infected Mushroom
Title: The Pretender
Tags: echoes silence patience grace foo fighters cover dnb drum and bass lince cosmico marathon
BPM: 174
Filesize: 11264kb
Play Time: 06:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Infected Oni (5,36 stars, 2156 notes)
  2. Lince's Deceived (5,85 stars, 1633 notes)
Download: Infected Mushroom - The Pretender
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This mapset exist for the sake of a banned mapper that actually wants to reach the achievement of ranking a marathon map while being banned, something that he never achieved. This all is happening thanks to me too, because i made a diff so he could rank it with no problems. This mapset is a different interpretation of both ranked versions of the song (map by RLC and Nwolf)
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#2 Hybrid map

  1. Infected Oni by me
  2. Deceived by Lince Cosmico
  3. Deceived's hitsounds from RLC mapset
Changelog
  1. Uploaded Beatmap- 18/03
  2. Applied isopaharuntikka's mod in Lince's Deceived - 18/03
  3. Applied Yamicchi's mod in Lince's Deceived - 19/03
  4. Applied gottagof4ast's mod in Lince's Deceived 23/03
  5. Applied Smolboi's mod in Lince's Deceived - 23/03
  6. Applied HML's mod in Lince's Deceived - 27/03
  7. Applied squirrelpascals's mod in Lince's Deceived - 27/03
  8. Applied newton-'s mod in Lince's Deceived - 29/03
  9. Applied DTM9 Nowa's mod in Lince's Deceived - 29/03
  10. Applied cooldude4232's mod in Lince's Deceived - 01/04
  11. Applied Shiratoi's mod in Lince's Deceived - 01/04
  12. Changed BG - 01/04
  13. Applied h4d0uk3n1's mod in Lince's Deceived - 01/04
  14. Applied Greenshell's mod in Infected Oni - 03/04
  15. Applied Cerulean Veyron's mod in Lince's Deceived - 14/04
  16. Applied - Yoshimaro -'s in Lince's Deceived - 18/04
  17. Applied JessiChan's mod in Infected Oni - 05/05
  18. Applied timemon's mod in Lince's Deceived - 07/05
  19. Applied direday's mod in Lince's Deceived - 07/05
  20. Applied UnLock-'s mod in Lince's Deceived - 14/05
  21. Applied Sylphi's mod in Infected Oni - 18/05
  22. Applied Chriz's mod in Lince's Deceived - 23/05
  23. Appllied LeQuack's mod in Lince's Deceived - 23/05
  24. Applied Alwaysyukaz's mod on Infected Oni - 19/06
  25. Applied Lince's mod in Infected Oni - 14/07
  26. Applied strickluke's mod in Infected Oni - 21/07
  27. Applied Doyak's mod in Lince's Deceived - 17/08
  28. Applied Tyistiana's mod in Infected Oni - 21/08
  29. Applied -Tochi's mod in Lince's Deceived - 05/09
  30. Applied game rock's mod in Infected Oni - 06/09
  31. Applied [R]'s mod in Infected Oni - 13/09
  32. Applied frukoyurdakul's mod in Infected Oni - 14/09
  33. frukoyurdakul's Taiko Icon 15/09
  34. Applied Gabe's mod in Lince's Deceived - 19/04
  35. frukoyurdakul's bubble - 20/09
  36. Applied squirrelpascals's check in Lince's Deceived - 26/10
  37. squirrelpascals's approval - 26/10
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Booze
hello am noob modder without any knowledge how to mod properly hope this helps

lince's diff

00:46:593 (1) - this feels too sudden or like too slow for me
00:57:283 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i think this could be spaced bigger or should be a stacked stream instead
01:37:628 (3) - i think this should be rotated a bit more upwards
01:44:869 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this concept comes out of nowhere
03:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - these feel like they're a bit too close together
05:44:524 (4,5) - this spacing increase felt weird to me

firetruck me i cant mod at all
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

isopaharuntikka wrote:

hello am noob modder without any knowledge how to mod properly hope this helps wow thanks for coming :D

lince's diff

00:46:593 (1) - this feels too sudden or like too slow for me it's part of the emphasis! also it plays kinda good imo
00:57:283 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i think this could be spaced bigger or should be a stacked stream instead i kept the spacing, but i moved the whole stream + slider to make 00:56:938 (5,1) - this stack correctly
01:37:628 (3) - i think this should be rotated a bit more upwards i kinda literally rotated it to the other side (Ctrl + H)
01:44:869 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this concept comes out of nowhere true!, fixed
03:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - these feel like they're a bit too close together there's no really space to make such a great pattern with the current things i need to do to map that part, but if someone suggest something better ill change it, for now ill keep it like that
05:44:524 (4,5) - this spacing increase felt weird to me not really increasing at all, also i wanted to make a pattern with this 05:44:524 (4,5,1) - like a "√" , also i used the same spacing for the other patterns only that most of them weren't circles but sliders.

firetruck me i cant mod at all no way you're saying that! you did helped me as far as i can see and thats something that i would be grateful about, keep doing mods like this and you will improve that part soon :p
Thanks a lot !
Updated~
Yamicchi
Hi
[General]
• Yeah you really need a BG, and remember to resize it to 1377x768 then
[Lince's]
• 00:45:559 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Did you map this stream manually? Because they have few problems about spacing if you look closely (around 0.05x mis-spacing)
• 01:00:386 (9) - Should be 1/2 slider instead. 01:00:559 - is not a beat that should be skipped
• 01:06:852 - might wanna add a circle here. Skipping it while mapping 01:06:938 (3,4,5) - is so not fair
• 01:19:179 (6,7,1,2,3) - I'd suggest this to emphasize the drums
• 02:06:593 (1,2) - You realize the pitch is going down for these 2 circles right? So why is the spacing increase?
• 02:23:145 (4,5,6,7,1) - Idk maybe you should remap the stream. The shape could be better than that
• 02:32:455 (4) - Less curve for better blanket?
• 02:45:300 - mapping this part as a 4-circle stream is not a bad idea after all. It'd create more intensity for the switch.
• 02:45:559 (1,1,1,1) - The volume is too loud. Around 30-40% would be perfect
• 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - The point is with the prrevious pattern, you're making players to go horizontally zigzag, but then you map a gimmick pattern like this while the rhythm didn't go down that much. I'd suggest keeping the zigzag by ctrl + g 2,3 or 2,4
• 03:51:076 (1) - Ah, why is the 2 clap hitsound but you used a 1/4 reverse slider? How about Ctrl+g 03:51:076 (1,2,3) - ?
• 03:59:955 (4) - it is 1 grid off if you're trying to make the stream straight. Check it again
• 04:33:835 - 04:35:214 - 04:36:593 - 04:37:973 - ... should have hitclap don't you think?
• 05:17:283 (1,1,1,1,1) - you know you can just rotate 05:17:283 (1,1) - by -72* to create a good shape right? The current shape of pattern looks funny
• 05:48:375 - 05:59:409 - Please turn the volume down to around 20-30%. Keeping the volume hurts my ear a lot
• 06:10:386 (3) - Thank you lol
• 05:52:455 (3,4,5,6,7) - I mean why not this http://puu.sh/uPo9C/a914076d88.jpg? The blue ticks are not too small to be ignored

Good luck
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

Yamicchi wrote:

Hi o/
[General]
• Yeah you really need a BG, and remember to resize it to 1377x768 then Yeah this will be our bg until we find a correct one
[Lince's]
• 00:45:559 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Did you map this stream manually? Because they have few problems about spacing if you look closely (around 0.05x mis-spacing) I do all my streams manually (with manually i mean not using "Ctrl + Shift + F"), tbh i see that the spacing isnt unconsistent, only the last circle, the 4, was a bit off but now its fixed
• 01:00:386 (9) - Should be 1/2 slider instead. 01:00:559 - is not a beat that should be skipped true, fixed
• 01:06:852 - might wanna add a circle here. Skipping it while mapping 01:06:938 (3,4,5) - is so not fair yeah fixed
• 01:19:179 (6,7,1,2,3) - I'd suggest this to emphasize the drums i prefer mine :p
• 02:06:593 (1,2) - You realize the pitch is going down for these 2 circles right? So why is the spacing increase? actually i dont think so, ii mean, it emphasizes correctly imo but if someone suggest this again im changing it
• 02:23:145 (4,5,6,7,1) - Idk maybe you should remap the stream. The shape could be better than that right, i was thinking about this one, just made it straight
• 02:32:455 (4) - Less curve for better blanket? Fixed
• 02:45:300 - mapping this part as a 4-circle stream is not a bad idea after all. It'd create more intensity for the switch. it's not that bad but i still prefer to keep it calm, adding intensity there could confuse players, think about it, you're playing it , the whole part is calm so you're playing with ur cursor tapping like calmly, then a wild stream appears just on the last 4 circles of the slow part, kinda annoying because you would probably choke... so iim keeping it
• 02:45:559 (1,1,1,1) - The volume is too loud. Around 30-40% would be perfect my bad, but moved it to 20%
• 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - The point is with the previous pattern, you're making players to go horizontally zigzag, but then you map a gimmick pattern like this while the rhythm didn't go down that much. I'd suggest keeping the zigzag by ctrl + g 2,3 or 2,4 there was another pattern before it, and it was the same pattern you're suggesting right now, i realized while testplaying that it's a super big change of intensity if i do that, so i liiterally deleted it and remapped the whole part, i dont think that doing the same thing over again will solve this situation, for now, until i get a better suggest, ill keep this
• 03:51:076 (1) - Ah, why is the 2 clap hitsound but you used a 1/4 reverse slider? How about Ctrl+g 03:51:076 (1,2,3) - ? i say no to the ctrl + g, and i dont get when you say 2 clap because there are 2 whistles
• 03:59:955 (4) - it is 1 grid off if you're trying to make the stream straight. Check it again I literally fixed it just before reading this lmao
• 04:33:835 - 04:35:214 - 04:36:593 - 04:37:973 - ... should have hitclap don't you think? true, also fixed some things and added some hitsounds
• 05:17:283 (1,1,1,1,1) - you know you can just rotate 05:17:283 (1,1) - by -72* to create a good shape right? The current shape of pattern looks funny i really forgot about that option, but i want to make things by myself! .. .but it sucks :( so ill do it
• 05:48:375 - 05:59:409 - Please turn the volume down to around 20-30%. Keeping the volume hurts my ear a lot sorry xD, i added 2 lines during these sliders of 50% and 30% volume (like making it lower while time passes)
• 06:10:386 (3) - Thank you lol No problem :v)
• 05:52:455 (3,4,5,6,7) - I mean why not this http://puu.sh/uPo9C/a914076d88.jpg? The blue ticks are not too small to be ignored i thiink its fine enough atm

Good luck
Thanks for the mod yamicchi ♥
Updated~
Stack
NM from queue

Lince's Decieved
01:37:628 (3) - i would keep this part all circle to keep all sounds here clickable.

02:16:593 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I would increase the spacing from 1 to 2 for more buildup, beacause the sounds do change and spacing would reflect that nicely I think.

02:19:179 (8) - Move this to the left so it doesn't touch 02:19:869 (3)

02:20:559 (1,3) - A bit of overlap

02:45:559 (1,1,1,1) - Arrange these in something else than a square, squares are boring

03:19:869 (6,2) - Overlap

03:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These corners in the stream feel too intense compared to the other streams which are all simple lines

03:54:007 (2,1,2,3,4) - Yes the sliderhead is on top of 3 but I still wouln't let it intersect

03:56:076 (3,4,5,6) - Curve this more nicely

04:13:662 (3) - I don't hear a sound on this note

04:16:421 (3) - ^

04:21:248 (2) - ^

04:30:731 (2,3,4) - I would make it like this beacause of the beat on the white tick https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/LpERGFG.png

05:11:248 (6,1) - Overlap

05:14:179 (3) - NC, to keep consistent with other jumps

This map is of really high quality so I don't have that much to add for a 6 and a half marathon map
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

gottagof4ast wrote:

NM from queue

Lince's Decieved
01:37:628 (3) - i would keep this part all circle to keep all sounds here clickable. i wouldn't, because its a really similar sound than 01:39:007 (1) - so it would be better to keep the consistency between both

02:16:593 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I would increase the spacing from 1 to 2 for more buildup, beacause the sounds do change and spacing would reflect that nicely I think. hmm i think its already fine like that

02:19:179 (8) - Move this to the left so it doesn't touch 02:19:869 (3) actually that was intended, i wanted an overlap there, but now i changed it and made it more clear (as overlap)

02:20:559 (1,3) - A bit of overlap intended as well

02:45:559 (1,1,1,1) - Arrange these in something else than a square, squares are boring 03:53:835 (1,2,3,4) - i want you to say that again! also its a calm part, its just a few secs lmao

03:19:869 (6,2) - Overlap it's stacking with the slider end of 03:18:662 (1) - so its intended

03:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These corners in the stream feel too intense compared to the other streams which are all simple lines thats the purpose :p , they're representing the background sound

03:54:007 (2,1,2,3,4) - Yes the sliderhead is on top of 3 but I still wouln't let it intersect hm? why not, it looks clear imo

03:56:076 (3,4,5,6) - Curve this more nicely tried my best without fucking up the pattern, done

04:13:662 (3) - I don't hear a sound on this note there's no really a hearable sound, its just overmap to emphatize and fill a bit up the part

04:16:421 (3) - ^

04:21:248 (2) - ^

04:30:731 (2,3,4) - I would make it like this beacause of the beat on the white tick https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/LpERGFG.png im following vocals here

05:11:248 (6,1) - Overlap intended

05:14:179 (3) - NC, to keep consistent with other jumps woah my bad, fixed

This map is of really high quality so I don't have that much to add for a 6 and a half marathon map wow i really appreciate that commentary about the map, its the first time that someone calls my maps "high quality" :DDDD anyway sorry if you feel dissapointeda about my answers, but thanks for the mod :) it will be always appreciated
Thanksuuu :d
Updated~
aetwuns
Discord discussion

i'm too lazy to format this
Smolboi - Today at 5:20 PM
you on? i gave pretender a lil test play and i could give quick mod in osu chat if you want
Lince - Today at 5:21 PM
osu chat
:'(
we can do it here!
(cuz im banned and i cant log osu)
Smolboi - Today at 5:22 PM
aw
i wanted to savelog
Lince - Today at 5:22 PM
well
you can always copypaste all from here :thinking:(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 5:22 PM
yeah but savelog is so much easier
whatever
Lince - Today at 5:22 PM
yeah true
Smolboi - Today at 5:23 PM
you can still have it open in editor?
or should i go to gaston
Lince - Today at 5:23 PM
im at editor
rn
Smolboi - Today at 5:23 PM
ok
first things first
not quite a fan of that preview point
Lince - Today at 5:23 PM
oh, well maybe it should start a bit later
Smolboi - Today at 5:24 PM
i'd honestly just use the same one in the ranked version
sounds nicer tbh
or
04:56:507 -
Lince - Today at 5:24 PM
is it the same kiai?
Smolboi - Today at 5:24 PM
that could be nice
Lince - Today at 5:24 PM
actually i picked the preview point
mostly for this: 03:15:904 -
Smolboi - Today at 5:25 PM
ah
i see
Lince - Today at 5:25 PM
so people (if they still heariing the song) would be able to hear the OP part
Smolboi - Today at 5:25 PM
i'd still consider moving it forward or using 04:56:507 -
caus that build up ain't pretty
Lince - Today at 5:26 PM
i moved it foward
Smolboi - Today at 5:26 PM
aight
second
whats up with that BG
any reason you used miku?
Lince - Today at 5:26 PM
provisory
(right word?)
Smolboi - Today at 5:26 PM
idk
Lince - Today at 5:26 PM
if you read the description of the map
we still need BG
Smolboi - Today at 5:26 PM
oh
Lince - Today at 5:27 PM
i actually made a post iin reddit asking iif someone can help
but rip
also i asked on /r/osumapping discord as well
but we'll find one eventually
Smolboi - Today at 5:27 PM
the word is tentative btw
Lince - Today at 5:27 PM
xD
Smolboi - Today at 5:28 PM
overall it was really fun to play
the main things i noticed where some out of place feeling stacks
i'll just do a quick look through and try to find them again
Lince - Today at 5:29 PM
sure
Smolboi - Today at 5:30 PM
00:45:559 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the stream emphasis you used here is a good bit stronger than the other streams in the map
like the spacing between segments in the stream is much bigger than what you can find ion other streams
Lince - Today at 5:30 PM
oh true
Smolboi - Today at 5:30 PM
the others are pretty tame/ just use hard bends in the stream
Lince - Today at 5:30 PM
but its actually the most hearable stream
in the whole map
Smolboi - Today at 5:31 PM
yeah i suppose
Lince - Today at 5:31 PM
the others always have music at background
Smolboi - Today at 5:31 PM
maybe it just threw me off because i was expecting kicksliders
ty rlc
Lince - Today at 5:31 PM
so i though that putting more emphasis on that one was better(edited)
o
i tried to not copy rlc things
so thats the reason of why there aren't kicksliders :v)
Smolboi - Today at 5:32 PM
no shame in using a little bit
it was one of the best maps of it's time after all
Lince - Today at 5:32 PM
i know
i really do enjoy it
that actually made me want to make my own version
Smolboi - Today at 5:32 PM
00:54:179 (5,9) - i have a blanket fetich, please blanket 5 into 9 properly
it satisfies my penis
Lince - Today at 5:33 PM
o i didnt tried to do blanket at first
anyway it seems better as a blanket LUL
fixed
Smolboi - Today at 5:33 PM
probably a few others like that
Lince - Today at 5:33 PM
(wow literaly 1 pixel to the left xD)
maybe there are
i remember using that pattern some times
Smolboi - Today at 5:34 PM
it adds a lot aesthetic wise so if i were you i'd take the time to go throug and fix them
Lince - Today at 5:34 PM
ill do it of course
Smolboi - Today at 5:34 PM
whenever you have the time
Lince - Today at 5:34 PM
yeah today is not really the right day
anyway lets continue
Smolboi - Today at 5:35 PM
01:55:904 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern was so much fucking fun to play
can i just say
Lince - Today at 5:36 PM
and i felt fun mapping that
i love doing that x0
i think i did something similar in other part of the map
Smolboi - Today at 5:36 PM
02:40:731 (2) - should be a repeater around here i think
Lince - Today at 5:37 PM
i actually tried to focus on vocals ,making it more relaxing
i didn't really want something unexpected there
Smolboi - Today at 5:38 PM
03:20:731 (3,4) - you shift from the 2 sliders then 4 circles to 1 slider and 6 circles after here
i think you ought to wait one more measure to do it though
03:20:731 (3,4) - so make these two circles
03:21:421 - since the music actually changes here
Lince - Today at 5:39 PM
03:20:042 (1,2,3,4) - hear this four sliders
calmly
when that sounds end
there's when i start doing the 4 circles 1 slider thing
i mean, i used that as reference
03:21:421 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - to make all of this
Smolboi - Today at 5:41 PM
03:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the streams confure me a little bit here
not sure why some are longer since they all sound about the same intensity to me
Lince - Today at 5:42 PM
eh
some are?
i used same distance snap
Smolboi - Today at 5:42 PM
overall i think the end of that kiai could use some work
the rhythym choises are a bit weird from a mapping perspective
Lince - Today at 5:43 PM
what kind of rhythm choises are we talking about?
like the 4 combo stream + slider?
Smolboi - Today at 5:43 PM
yeah, you aren't sticking to one combo
like "stream this length then repeating slider"
some streams are longer than others
some repeaters are longer than others
03:49:007 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - here you broke out into kicksliders
Lince - Today at 5:45 PM
yeah
cuz the "new part"
and i use the same pattern in all of the parts
if i find a form to make it less weird ill probably change it
Smolboi - Today at 5:48 PM
so yeah
that about it
was pretty fun to play, spacing is good
only real problem was rhythym
needs to be a little more predictable
i found that i was allways being suprised by things
especially in the kiai
Lince - Today at 5:49 PM
actually... i dont know how to make it more predictable... like... i love it i cant help it axsadasjd
ill find a way anyways
Smolboi - Today at 5:50 PM
first off, i'd break up the long stream
the really don't fit imo
and it would help people to keep up stamina through the kiai
Lince - Today at 5:51 PM
i though that the long reverseslider was the problem there
like... the most unexpected thing
Smolboi - Today at 5:51 PM
03:46:248 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - and i would save kick sliders for this loud ass kick sound that you hear here and in other places(edited)
Lince - Today at 5:51 PM
and i put that to make people recover a bit of stamina
Smolboi - Today at 5:51 PM
no
some revers slider are longer than others
Lince - Today at 5:52 PM
there are 2 types of reverse sliders
the normal ones of 4 reverses
and the ones with 9
Smolboi - Today at 5:52 PM
yeah
Lince - Today at 5:52 PM
the ones with 9 only appears when there's a 4 combo stream before
thats the recovery one
Smolboi - Today at 5:52 PM
ah
Lince - Today at 5:52 PM
the others well, works but not as the 9 one
Smolboi - Today at 5:53 PM
i would just make them all the 2 measure streams with the 4 reverse sliders
maybe break out into longer streams at the end
Lince - Today at 5:53 PM
wouldn't make sense if you hear the background sound
of where the 9 slider is(edited)
there's a long sound
its liike "tum tum tum tum tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum" (4 combo - 4 combo - 4 combo - 4 combo - 9 reverse slider)
(such a nice representation LMAO)
Smolboi - Today at 5:54 PM
it's the same sound as the other reverse sliders though
or it's so close that i really can't tell
Lince - Today at 5:55 PM
hmm you dont get me
why do you think there are... specific parts with 4 combo streams?
Smolboi - Today at 5:55 PM
eh?
listen
what i'm saying is
Lince - Today at 5:55 PM
e
Smolboi - Today at 5:56 PM
03:26:938 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2) - this is good
the 2 measure stream followed by the 2 - 1 measure reverse sliders
Lince - Today at 5:56 PM
yeah
Smolboi - Today at 5:56 PM
i'm saying you should save the longer streams til the end of the kiai
and put the kick slider on the really loud kick sounds
example of places withg the kick sound
03:37:628 (5,6,7,8) -
Lince - Today at 5:57 PM
i actually do it in both parts of kiais(edited)
to being consistent only
but yeah i get you
but i dont really want to save the longer streams for the ending
because i represented the intensity from the spacing
Smolboi - Today at 5:58 PM
why not
Lince - Today at 5:58 PM
and... its still part of the kiai
Smolboi - Today at 5:58 PM
i really think they would fit better
since you can't point to spesific sounds and go "yep, thats why that stream is longer"
Lince - Today at 5:59 PM
:thinking:
Smolboi - Today at 5:59 PM
but you CAN say, "the stream is longer because the music is more intense"
thus
put longer streams at the end
where it's more INTENSE
Lince - Today at 5:59 PM
wait, why you can't say that the stream is longer because the sound?
Smolboi - Today at 5:59 PM
and keep shorter streams in the beginning
because all the streams sound the same
Smolboi - Today at 6:00 PM
it just gets louder
Lince - Today at 6:00 PM
but im not talking about that sound
Smolboi - Today at 6:00 PM
progresively
Lince - Today at 6:00 PM
im talking about the music sounds
also i already told you, its part of my style, i represent intensity with spacing
Smolboi - Today at 6:01 PM
ok
most people do
that not relevent
ok
tell me why this stream is longer than the others before it
03:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
what is your reasoning
Lince - Today at 6:02 PM
the background sound
there's a sound from the music on every New Combo
so 03:31:076 (1) -
03:31:421 (1) -
03:31:766 (1) -
03:32:110 (1) -
03:32:455 (1) -
Smolboi - Today at 6:04 PM
OOOOOOOH
thats what you're emphasizing
Lince - Today at 6:04 PM
yeah
thats what i've been trying to say
all of this time
Smolboi - Today at 6:04 PM
that would explain why i didn't catch it
Lince - Today at 6:04 PM
LOL
Smolboi - Today at 6:04 PM
because it's reallllllly quiet
Lince - Today at 6:04 PM
even with the tum tum tum tuuuum thing
feelsbad
ehhhhh it isnt for me!
i hear it clearly
with only one speaker working
:thinking:
Smolboi - Today at 6:05 PM
03:33:145 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - but then why is this one longer
Lince - Today at 6:06 PM
well, the sound from 03:32:455 (1) - actually ends 03:33:835 - here or around
and i did this cuz it emphasize imo 03:33:835 -
nvm
the sound from the long reverse slider actually ends here 03:35:214 -
Smolboi - Today at 6:09 PM
but
can you explain the 9 repeaters
Lince - Today at 6:09 PM
the 9 repeater
is where the sound start
as i said before, thats for stamina recovering
then it continues with the long stream(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 6:11 PM
the difference in difficulty between two 4 reapeating sliders and one 9 repeating slider really isn't tangible
feels like it kind of betrays the intensity
Lince - Today at 6:11 PM
4 x 2 = 8
Smolboi - Today at 6:11 PM
whatever
Lince - Today at 6:11 PM
only 1 repeater = 9
kappa
Smolboi - Today at 6:11 PM
i don't wanna math rn
Lince - Today at 6:12 PM
i fucking confused
its not 9 repeats
its 8
LOL
i kept the 9 because i didn't want it to be 2 sliiders
2 sliders for the same sound
Smolboi - Today at 6:12 PM
also
03:53:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
kick sliders(edited)
Lince - Today at 6:13 PM
yes
thats the hardest part of the kiai
where i dont use streams anymore
Smolboi - Today at 6:13 PM
so you used them because the song is more intense, correct
Lince - Today at 6:13 PM
yeah
Smolboi - Today at 6:13 PM
so how bout you organize them into a pattern
Lince - Today at 6:13 PM
i literally copied them from big black tbh
Smolboi - Today at 6:13 PM
like how after every stream you but the reverse sliders
but with kick sliders
because as it is, you just kinda clumped all the kick sliders into one part
Lince - Today at 6:14 PM
i dont get at all what you mean(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 6:14 PM
hold
Lince - Today at 6:15 PM
also
i think that my big problem
is thiis 05:35:214 -
now that i see
LOL i fucked it up
remap time kms(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 6:18 PM
03:51:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - SO HERE, IT'S A LONG STREAM FOLLOWED BY A SHITLOAD OF KICK SLIDERS
CAPS LOCK
you could just use a regular 2 measure stream followed by 2 measures of kick sliders
jsut like what you did erlier in the map
03:39:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - think this, but the repeaters are kik sliders
it would help to spread out the dificulty a little more
so it's not, "ok heres the stream, now here's the kick sliders"
it's would all be one nice blend(edited)
Lince - Today at 6:20 PM
gimme a sec
ok done
lets see this(edited)
03:52:455 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - actually thiis
is the biggest mistake
i mapped it fastly in exchange of some bad things i had
and i forgot to fix
but there should be 2 reverse sliders i think
correct?
Smolboi - Today at 6:23 PM
did you read what i posted
ok
so
Lince - Today at 6:23 PM
yes
Smolboi - Today at 6:23 PM
basically
do it just like you had been doing it all kiai
Lince - Today at 6:24 PM
but you said kicksliders and confused me
o
Smolboi - Today at 6:24 PM
03:40:731 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - takes this, replace the reverse sliders with kick sliders
use that for the second half of the kiai instead of the long streams and the sections of kick sliders
03:49:007 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - kick slider are these things
Lince - Today at 6:27 PM
yeah i got it
Smolboi - Today at 6:27 PM
ok
thats about all i wanted to get across
rhythym should be more consistant
thats basically it
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Smolboi wrote:

Discord discussion

i'm too lazy to format this
Smolboi - Today at 5:20 PM
you on? i gave pretender a lil test play and i could give quick mod in osu chat if you want
Lince - Today at 5:21 PM
osu chat
:'(
we can do it here!
(cuz im banned and i cant log osu)
Smolboi - Today at 5:22 PM
aw
i wanted to savelog
Lince - Today at 5:22 PM
well
you can always copypaste all from here :thinking:(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 5:22 PM
yeah but savelog is so much easier
whatever
Lince - Today at 5:22 PM
yeah true
Smolboi - Today at 5:23 PM
you can still have it open in editor?
or should i go to gaston
Lince - Today at 5:23 PM
im at editor
rn
Smolboi - Today at 5:23 PM
ok
first things first
not quite a fan of that preview point
Lince - Today at 5:23 PM
oh, well maybe it should start a bit later
Smolboi - Today at 5:24 PM
i'd honestly just use the same one in the ranked version
sounds nicer tbh
or
04:56:507 -
Lince - Today at 5:24 PM
is it the same kiai?
Smolboi - Today at 5:24 PM
that could be nice
Lince - Today at 5:24 PM
actually i picked the preview point
mostly for this: 03:15:904 -
Smolboi - Today at 5:25 PM
ah
i see
Lince - Today at 5:25 PM
so people (if they still heariing the song) would be able to hear the OP part
Smolboi - Today at 5:25 PM
i'd still consider moving it forward or using 04:56:507 -
caus that build up ain't pretty
Lince - Today at 5:26 PM
i moved it foward
Smolboi - Today at 5:26 PM
aight
second
whats up with that BG
any reason you used miku?
Lince - Today at 5:26 PM
provisory
(right word?)
Smolboi - Today at 5:26 PM
idk
Lince - Today at 5:26 PM
if you read the description of the map
we still need BG
Smolboi - Today at 5:26 PM
oh
Lince - Today at 5:27 PM
i actually made a post iin reddit asking iif someone can help
but rip
also i asked on /r/osumapping discord as well
but we'll find one eventually
Smolboi - Today at 5:27 PM
the word is tentative btw
Lince - Today at 5:27 PM
xD
Smolboi - Today at 5:28 PM
overall it was really fun to play
the main things i noticed where some out of place feeling stacks
i'll just do a quick look through and try to find them again
Lince - Today at 5:29 PM
sure
Smolboi - Today at 5:30 PM
00:45:559 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the stream emphasis you used here is a good bit stronger than the other streams in the map
like the spacing between segments in the stream is much bigger than what you can find ion other streams
Lince - Today at 5:30 PM
oh true
Smolboi - Today at 5:30 PM
the others are pretty tame/ just use hard bends in the stream
Lince - Today at 5:30 PM
but its actually the most hearable stream
in the whole map
Smolboi - Today at 5:31 PM
yeah i suppose
Lince - Today at 5:31 PM
the others always have music at background
Smolboi - Today at 5:31 PM
maybe it just threw me off because i was expecting kicksliders
ty rlc
Lince - Today at 5:31 PM
so i though that putting more emphasis on that one was better(edited)
o
i tried to not copy rlc things
so thats the reason of why there aren't kicksliders :v)
Smolboi - Today at 5:32 PM
no shame in using a little bit
it was one of the best maps of it's time after all
Lince - Today at 5:32 PM
i know
i really do enjoy it
that actually made me want to make my own version
Smolboi - Today at 5:32 PM
00:54:179 (5,9) - i have a blanket fetich, please blanket 5 into 9 properly
it satisfies my penis
Lince - Today at 5:33 PM
o i didnt tried to do blanket at first
anyway it seems better as a blanket LUL
fixed
Smolboi - Today at 5:33 PM
probably a few others like that
Lince - Today at 5:33 PM
(wow literaly 1 pixel to the left xD)
maybe there are
i remember using that pattern some times
Smolboi - Today at 5:34 PM
it adds a lot aesthetic wise so if i were you i'd take the time to go throug and fix them
Lince - Today at 5:34 PM
ill do it of course
Smolboi - Today at 5:34 PM
whenever you have the time
Lince - Today at 5:34 PM
yeah today is not really the right day
anyway lets continue
Smolboi - Today at 5:35 PM
01:55:904 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern was so much fucking fun to play
can i just say
Lince - Today at 5:36 PM
and i felt fun mapping that
i love doing that x0
i think i did something similar in other part of the map
Smolboi - Today at 5:36 PM
02:40:731 (2) - should be a repeater around here i think
Lince - Today at 5:37 PM
i actually tried to focus on vocals ,making it more relaxing
i didn't really want something unexpected there
Smolboi - Today at 5:38 PM
03:20:731 (3,4) - you shift from the 2 sliders then 4 circles to 1 slider and 6 circles after here
i think you ought to wait one more measure to do it though
03:20:731 (3,4) - so make these two circles
03:21:421 - since the music actually changes here
Lince - Today at 5:39 PM
03:20:042 (1,2,3,4) - hear this four sliders
calmly
when that sounds end
there's when i start doing the 4 circles 1 slider thing
i mean, i used that as reference
03:21:421 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - to make all of this
Smolboi - Today at 5:41 PM
03:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the streams confure me a little bit here
not sure why some are longer since they all sound about the same intensity to me
Lince - Today at 5:42 PM
eh
some are?
i used same distance snap
Smolboi - Today at 5:42 PM
overall i think the end of that kiai could use some work
the rhythym choises are a bit weird from a mapping perspective
Lince - Today at 5:43 PM
what kind of rhythm choises are we talking about?
like the 4 combo stream + slider?
Smolboi - Today at 5:43 PM
yeah, you aren't sticking to one combo
like "stream this length then repeating slider"
some streams are longer than others
some repeaters are longer than others
03:49:007 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - here you broke out into kicksliders
Lince - Today at 5:45 PM
yeah
cuz the "new part"
and i use the same pattern in all of the parts
if i find a form to make it less weird ill probably change it
Smolboi - Today at 5:48 PM
so yeah
that about it
was pretty fun to play, spacing is good
only real problem was rhythym
needs to be a little more predictable
i found that i was allways being suprised by things
especially in the kiai
Lince - Today at 5:49 PM
actually... i dont know how to make it more predictable... like... i love it i cant help it axsadasjd
ill find a way anyways
Smolboi - Today at 5:50 PM
first off, i'd break up the long stream
the really don't fit imo
and it would help people to keep up stamina through the kiai
Lince - Today at 5:51 PM
i though that the long reverseslider was the problem there
like... the most unexpected thing
Smolboi - Today at 5:51 PM
03:46:248 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - and i would save kick sliders for this loud ass kick sound that you hear here and in other places(edited)
Lince - Today at 5:51 PM
and i put that to make people recover a bit of stamina
Smolboi - Today at 5:51 PM
no
some revers slider are longer than others
Lince - Today at 5:52 PM
there are 2 types of reverse sliders
the normal ones of 4 reverses
and the ones with 9
Smolboi - Today at 5:52 PM
yeah
Lince - Today at 5:52 PM
the ones with 9 only appears when there's a 4 combo stream before
thats the recovery one
Smolboi - Today at 5:52 PM
ah
Lince - Today at 5:52 PM
the others well, works but not as the 9 one
Smolboi - Today at 5:53 PM
i would just make them all the 2 measure streams with the 4 reverse sliders
maybe break out into longer streams at the end
Lince - Today at 5:53 PM
wouldn't make sense if you hear the background sound
of where the 9 slider is(edited)
there's a long sound
its liike "tum tum tum tum tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum" (4 combo - 4 combo - 4 combo - 4 combo - 9 reverse slider)
(such a nice representation LMAO)
Smolboi - Today at 5:54 PM
it's the same sound as the other reverse sliders though
or it's so close that i really can't tell
Lince - Today at 5:55 PM
hmm you dont get me
why do you think there are... specific parts with 4 combo streams?
Smolboi - Today at 5:55 PM
eh?
listen
what i'm saying is
Lince - Today at 5:55 PM
e
Smolboi - Today at 5:56 PM
03:26:938 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2) - this is good
the 2 measure stream followed by the 2 - 1 measure reverse sliders
Lince - Today at 5:56 PM
yeah
Smolboi - Today at 5:56 PM
i'm saying you should save the longer streams til the end of the kiai
and put the kick slider on the really loud kick sounds
example of places withg the kick sound
03:37:628 (5,6,7,8) -
Lince - Today at 5:57 PM
i actually do it in both parts of kiais(edited)
to being consistent only
but yeah i get you
but i dont really want to save the longer streams for the ending
because i represented the intensity from the spacing
Smolboi - Today at 5:58 PM
why not
Lince - Today at 5:58 PM
and... its still part of the kiai
Smolboi - Today at 5:58 PM
i really think they would fit better
since you can't point to spesific sounds and go "yep, thats why that stream is longer"
Lince - Today at 5:59 PM
:thinking:
Smolboi - Today at 5:59 PM
but you CAN say, "the stream is longer because the music is more intense"
thus
put longer streams at the end
where it's more INTENSE
Lince - Today at 5:59 PM
wait, why you can't say that the stream is longer because the sound?
Smolboi - Today at 5:59 PM
and keep shorter streams in the beginning
because all the streams sound the same
Smolboi - Today at 6:00 PM
it just gets louder
Lince - Today at 6:00 PM
but im not talking about that sound
Smolboi - Today at 6:00 PM
progresively
Lince - Today at 6:00 PM
im talking about the music sounds
also i already told you, its part of my style, i represent intensity with spacing
Smolboi - Today at 6:01 PM
ok
most people do
that not relevent
ok
tell me why this stream is longer than the others before it
03:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
what is your reasoning
Lince - Today at 6:02 PM
the background sound
there's a sound from the music on every New Combo
so 03:31:076 (1) -
03:31:421 (1) -
03:31:766 (1) -
03:32:110 (1) -
03:32:455 (1) -
Smolboi - Today at 6:04 PM
OOOOOOOH
thats what you're emphasizing
Lince - Today at 6:04 PM
yeah
thats what i've been trying to say
all of this time
Smolboi - Today at 6:04 PM
that would explain why i didn't catch it
Lince - Today at 6:04 PM
LOL
Smolboi - Today at 6:04 PM
because it's reallllllly quiet
Lince - Today at 6:04 PM
even with the tum tum tum tuuuum thing
feelsbad
ehhhhh it isnt for me!
i hear it clearly
with only one speaker working
:thinking:
Smolboi - Today at 6:05 PM
03:33:145 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - but then why is this one longer
Lince - Today at 6:06 PM
well, the sound from 03:32:455 (1) - actually ends 03:33:835 - here or around
and i did this cuz it emphasize imo 03:33:835 -
nvm
the sound from the long reverse slider actually ends here 03:35:214 -
Smolboi - Today at 6:09 PM
but
can you explain the 9 repeaters
Lince - Today at 6:09 PM
the 9 repeater
is where the sound start
as i said before, thats for stamina recovering
then it continues with the long stream(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 6:11 PM
the difference in difficulty between two 4 reapeating sliders and one 9 repeating slider really isn't tangible
feels like it kind of betrays the intensity
Lince - Today at 6:11 PM
4 x 2 = 8
Smolboi - Today at 6:11 PM
whatever
Lince - Today at 6:11 PM
only 1 repeater = 9
kappa
Smolboi - Today at 6:11 PM
i don't wanna math rn
Lince - Today at 6:12 PM
i fucking confused
its not 9 repeats
its 8
LOL
i kept the 9 because i didn't want it to be 2 sliiders
2 sliders for the same sound
Smolboi - Today at 6:12 PM
also
03:53:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
kick sliders(edited)
Lince - Today at 6:13 PM
yes
thats the hardest part of the kiai
where i dont use streams anymore
Smolboi - Today at 6:13 PM
so you used them because the song is more intense, correct
Lince - Today at 6:13 PM
yeah
Smolboi - Today at 6:13 PM
so how bout you organize them into a pattern
Lince - Today at 6:13 PM
i literally copied them from big black tbh
Smolboi - Today at 6:13 PM
like how after every stream you but the reverse sliders
but with kick sliders
because as it is, you just kinda clumped all the kick sliders into one part
Lince - Today at 6:14 PM
i dont get at all what you mean(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 6:14 PM
hold
Lince - Today at 6:15 PM
also
i think that my big problem
is thiis 05:35:214 -
now that i see
LOL i fucked it up
remap time kms(edited)
Smolboi - Today at 6:18 PM
03:51:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - SO HERE, IT'S A LONG STREAM FOLLOWED BY A SHITLOAD OF KICK SLIDERS
CAPS LOCK
you could just use a regular 2 measure stream followed by 2 measures of kick sliders
jsut like what you did erlier in the map
03:39:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - think this, but the repeaters are kik sliders
it would help to spread out the dificulty a little more
so it's not, "ok heres the stream, now here's the kick sliders"
it's would all be one nice blend(edited)
Lince - Today at 6:20 PM
gimme a sec
ok done
lets see this(edited)
03:52:455 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - actually thiis
is the biggest mistake
i mapped it fastly in exchange of some bad things i had
and i forgot to fix
but there should be 2 reverse sliders i think
correct?
Smolboi - Today at 6:23 PM
did you read what i posted
ok
so
Lince - Today at 6:23 PM
yes
Smolboi - Today at 6:23 PM
basically
do it just like you had been doing it all kiai
Lince - Today at 6:24 PM
but you said kicksliders and confused me
o
Smolboi - Today at 6:24 PM
03:40:731 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - takes this, replace the reverse sliders with kick sliders
use that for the second half of the kiai instead of the long streams and the sections of kick sliders
03:49:007 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - kick slider are these things
Lince - Today at 6:27 PM
yeah i got it
Smolboi - Today at 6:27 PM
ok
thats about all i wanted to get across
rhythym should be more consistant
thats basically it
Updated~
HML
I don't like the background. It's too calm and warm with a song this intense. Here are some I think would suit it better:
I like this one a lot. It fits perfectly
Anything from here would suit better imo


mod for Lince
The HP is really low. I'd make it 6-6.3. It's too easy to miss an entire stream and stay alive.
Also, you map in the middle too much. Take advantage of the corners. It makes the map feel really boring, like backtracking in a video game. Not enough variety imo. Here's a screenshot of the total area used in your map which is 6 minutes long, no excuse with the amount of time you have to play with: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7661846

00:25:904 (2) - Ctrl+G this to make the flow a bit better and to match the flow of 00:22:110 (1,2) - . It plays much better this way and doesn't feel awkward because of the small gap in space, but large in time.

00:40:042 (4) - I think you should make this into a 1/1 slider much like 00:39:352 (3) - , but slow the SV to make the part play like how it sounds while making it feel different from 00:39:352 (3) - .

00:43:835 (2) - The change in pitch is 00:44:007 - , not where you ended the slider.
00:46:248 (1,2,3,4,1) - This is overdone. there is no pitch change, so there's no reason to increase the DS or change the hitsounding here.
00:48:317 (3,4) - These are stacked for no rhythmical reason. They're the same sounds as 00:47:973 (1,2) - yet are treated very differently. The only reason I can think of why you did this is because 00:48:490 (4) - is a strong note, but you're suppressing it's emphasis by hiding it under another note. I'd either NC it, or make a flow change here.

00:51:248 (4) - ^ Just to let you know, I won't mention this again, so if you do go through with the changes, just go through the map.
00:55:559 (3,4,5,6,7) - The first note of a stream is arguably the most important part. Making such a thing a nonclickable slider end is bad imo because you don't feel the impact of the 1/4 just rather a quad.This types of stuff is allover the map and I think is fundamentally wrong.

00:57:628 (1,2,3,4) - Makes these 1/4th sliders to show of the major pitch changes from 00:57:628 (1,2) - to 00:57:801 (3,4) - . Adds some nice fair and emphasis to this part of the map.

01:07:973 (1,2,3,4,5) - Flip this pattern upside down. It reflects the music better because 01:07:973 (1,2) - is a high change in pitch while 01:08:145 (2,5) - is low. Doesn't make sense to go down when the song is going up and vise versa.

01:23:317 (1,2,3,4,5,5) - There are a lot of ugly overlaps in the map. Clean it up a bit more maybe?
01:28:317 (1) - Should be emphasized through special slider a shape like 01:25:559 (1) - is. It looks boring compared to the prior part.
01:31:076 (1,1,1,1) - I think this pattern would feel better if it played like THIS because it breaks flow from 01:30:042 (3,4,5,6,7) - and rightfully so with the change in music being so heavy hitting. And with the way I showed, 01:32:455 (1,1) - follows the same flow as 01:31:076 (1,1,1) - being a zigzag rather than a square. it's more predictable.

01:37:110 (3) - Is much stronger than 01:37:283 (1) - , so I'd swap NC's and make 01:37:110 (3) - where the change in flow comes in. The way you did it is rhythmically incorrect and it plays poorly because of that fact.

01:38:317 (3,1) - ^ same dealio
01:43:490 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This is weird in that the superior vocal shift happens at 01:43:662 (2) - , and a new sound is introduced 01:43:835 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I think you should make 01:43:490 (1,2) - part of 01:42:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , and make a new pattern with 01:43:835 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - , Much like you did 01:49:007 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -

01:50:042 (1,2,3,4,1) - Curvy streams like this look bad imo. They don't add much with adding an eye soar and don't play any different. You make this feel more important than it is buy making it have a very special shape that's not needed.

01:58:662 - Add a note, 01:59:352 - here, 02:00:042 - here, 02:00:214 - here, 02:00:386 - here, and 02:00:559 - here. Gets rid of the break while emphasizing the VERY important vocal cry. Just try it out, I think it sounds fantastic rather than a boring break.

02:05:559 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This pattern feels really weighted to the right and uneven. Make 02:05:559 (1,2) - the same shape as 02:05:904 (1,2) - , and 02:06:248 (1,2) - the same as 02:06:593 (1,2) - . I think it looks and plays better with the even climbing of the rhythm unlike what you have. You did it 02:16:593 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . Same sound, different way of how you did it.

02:19:869 (3,1) - These feel random and shoehorned in. In the rest of this section there is nothing like it, and you ignore (what should be) clickable strong rhythms on 02:20:214 - and 02:20:731 - .

02:31:421 (3) - The jagged section of this slider feels to short and crammed in there, so it makes it feel very uneven and top heavy. This is easily fixed by making the tail end curve more like THIS

02:57:973 (1,2) - Same as before.
03:13:490 (2) - I think this plays better and gives more impact if its put over the head of 03:13:835 (1) - . Makes it so you go from a moving jump to a stunned stop and gap in time. Makes it feel better to play imo.

03:37:628 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This looks really ugly. Make it more round and less unbalanced so it looks better and doesn't play stiff like how it does around 03:37:628 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - .

03:57:628 (5) - NC because of the dip in the stream along with consistency
05:02:110 (1,2) - Last time I'll mention it.
05:08:662 (3,4,5,6,1) - Inconsistency with how you structure this stream throughout the map.
05:18:662 (1) - Delete this note. I think it sounds better and gives a bigger impact if you map to the vocals.
05:40:731 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This is 1/6, not 1/4.
06:25:904 (2) - Making this into a stream that ends on 06:26:248 - fits the rhythm better imo, and plays pretty cool.

Some final overall thoughts
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I think all of the overlaps make it look unpolished and messy contrasting the song in a bad way. Also, you change flow in very weird places that feel random at times. You should change flow every strong beat to give more impact and to not make it feel like you're spinning your cursor in one direction like how your map feels for the vast majority of the play time. Everything in this map looks the same in aesthetics, note placement, and movement which make it boring to play. Inconsistencies in rhythm choice make it weird and not fun to play in areas with random changes.

Best of luck
squirrelpascals

HML wrote:

I don't like the background. It's too calm and warm with a song this intense. Here are some I think would suit it better:
I like this one a lot. It fits perfectly
Anything from here would suit better imo
plz. this chick proceeds to just read a book as she literally falls from the sky. Do you think non-intense people would passively enjoy a good book, knowing that their lives are in great danger?

Anyways here's my mod :p
Screenshots are purely examples as to how a problem can be fixed

Lince
• You have very similar combo colors, including an unrankable white combo color (which you should replace with like a very light grey). You're going to have to cut the grey combo colors that you use to just like 2 or three, they should all be visually different

• 00:24:524 (1,2) - 00:35:559 (1,2,3,4,1) - These two rhythms are different, yet mapped to the same vocal pattern. Make this consistent?

• 00:43:835 (2) - unsnapped lol

• 00:54:438 (6,7) - 01:30:042 (3,4,5) - Make this more like a stream, like you did at 00:51:421 (5,6,7) - and 00:55:559 (3,4,5) - ?

• 00:58:317 - Make clickable?

• 01:36:593 - Make this clickable as well, it feels awkward starting the pattern at 01:36:766 -

• 01:56:938 (1) - I think you could provide more exaggeration to this note through spacing, the note is on a new group of guitar notes (the three notes that descend in pitch that are repeated) and there is a pretty strong snare there

• 02:07:283 (2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't a stream be here? with a note at 02:07:542 -

• 02:12:110 (1) - This slow slider is uncalled for, just make it normal speed

• 02:14:352 (3,4) - This rhythm isn't that great here, because of the strong note on the sliderend at 02:14:697 - Make it two 1/2 sliders here to bring out that guitar? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7665701

• 02:15:904 (3,4,5,6,7) - This whole stream should start at 02:15:731 - , because the hi hats these should be mapped to stop at 02:16:076 -

• 02:53:490 (1) - colorhax suggestion: make this a red slider? It would make the slider stand out to the player from 02:52:455 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and tell them that the slider plays differently. Also, the same slider at 01:39:007 (1) - is also red

• 03:02:628 (1,2,3,4) - Stream here?

• 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - Why are these overlapped? The stops in flow here feel forced in such an intense part of the song, I would switch the places of 2 and 3

• 03:57:628 (5) - This is the only time youve put a corner in the more intense part of this map starting from 03:49:007 - . I would remove it

• 04:19:007 - Make clickable?

• 04:48:317 (1,2) - Make slider ends clickable here too? This seems like the intensity in the map reduces compared to 04:46:938 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -

• 04:55:214 (1,2,3,4) - This might sound like a dumb suggestion, but can you make this a lighter combo color? Both times I've playtested this map I forget that there is still rhythm to account for at this part of the map, so maybe a light combo color here will bring more attention to the player? idk lol

• 05:48:317 (3,4) - Overap these? Or make that buzz slider end at 05:48:662 - The spacing makes it look like it plays similarly to 05:42:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - with the consistent 1/2 gap in between objects. Same for 05:59:352 (4,5) -

• 05:52:800 (6,7) - Account for the blue ticks that come after these notes somehow? Maybe kicksliders would be cool https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7665837

• 06:22:800 (2,1) - Space these more?

Solid map! good luck :)
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

HML wrote:

I don't like the background. It's too calm and warm with a song this intense. Here are some I think would suit it better:
I like this one a lot. It fits perfectly
Anything from here would suit better imo
i'm gonna talk with gaston about this lol

mod for Lince
The HP is really low. I'd make it 6-6.3. It's too easy to miss an entire stream and stay alive. I made it 6,2 now :p
Also, you map in the middle too much. Take advantage of the corners. It makes the map feel really boring, like backtracking in a video game. Not enough variety imo. Here's a screenshot of the total area used in your map which is 6 minutes long, no excuse with the amount of time you have to play with: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7661846 well i dont see how it makes it boring, i dont really care about using corners at all

00:25:904 (2) - Ctrl+G this to make the flow a bit better and to match the flow of 00:22:110 (1,2) - . It plays much better this way and doesn't feel awkward because of the small gap in space, but large in time. oh sure, fixed

00:40:042 (4) - I think you should make this into a 1/1 slider much like 00:39:352 (3) - , but slow the SV to make the part play like how it sounds while making it feel different from 00:39:352 (3) - . i heard the sound there, but i decided to not do it, i think its perfect like its now

00:43:835 (2) - The change in pitch is 00:44:007 - , not where you ended the slider. HOW I DID NOT NOTICE THIS LOL
00:46:248 (1,2,3,4,1) - This is overdone. there is no pitch change, so there's no reason to increase the DS or change the hitsounding here. since it plays perfectly, and also i didnt the hitsounds (anyway i think they fits a lot good) i dont see why now
00:48:317 (3,4) - These are stacked for no rhythmical reason. They're the same sounds as 00:47:973 (1,2) - yet are treated very differently. The only reason I can think of why you did this is because 00:48:490 (4) - is a strong note, but you're suppressing it's emphasis by hiding it under another note. I'd either NC it, or make a flow change here. i actually did it because i felt like these were 4 circles of 2 combo each one (first 2 circles and the other circles are different in my sense) so that made me think about that pattern, ill not change it

00:51:248 (4) - ^ Just to let you know, I won't mention this again, so if you do go through with the changes, just go through the map.
00:55:559 (3,4,5,6,7) - The first note of a stream is arguably the most important part. Making such a thing a nonclickable slider end is bad imo because you don't feel the impact of the 1/4 just rather a quad.This types of stuff is allover the map and I think is fundamentally wrong.true, fixed

00:57:628 (1,2,3,4) - Makes these 1/4th sliders to show of the major pitch changes from 00:57:628 (1,2) - to 00:57:801 (3,4) - . Adds some nice fair and emphasis to this part of the map. the intensity of the kicksliders just makes me dont think about that

01:07:973 (1,2,3,4,5) - Flip this pattern upside down. It reflects the music better because 01:07:973 (1,2) - is a high change in pitch while 01:08:145 (2,5) - is low. Doesn't make sense to go down when the song is going up and vise versa. changed it a bit

01:23:317 (1,2,3,4,5,5) - There are a lot of ugly overlaps in the map. Clean it up a bit more maybe? ugly? LOL, anyway fixed that one (im lazy to change the color ok) every overlap (or most of them) have a sense, i care about details im not that careless
01:28:317 (1) - Should be emphasized through special slider a shape like 01:25:559 (1) - is. It looks boring compared to the prior part. true, fixed
01:31:076 (1,1,1,1) - I think this pattern would feel better if it played like THIS because it breaks flow from 01:30:042 (3,4,5,6,7) - and rightfully so with the change in music being so heavy hitting. And with the way I showed, 01:32:455 (1,1) - follows the same flow as 01:31:076 (1,1,1) - being a zigzag rather than a square. it's more predictable. yah sounds really nice, done

01:37:110 (3) - Is much stronger than 01:37:283 (1) - , so I'd swap NC's and make 01:37:110 (3) - where the change in flow comes in. The way you did it is rhythmically incorrect and it plays poorly because of that fact. i need it to be a triangle, thats the meaning of it (also i think that NC's are fine for now) but your point is really convincent, for now ill just keep it like this, but if people still suggesting it ill change

01:38:317 (3,1) - ^ same dealio
01:43:490 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This is weird in that the superior vocal shift happens at 01:43:662 (2) - , and a new sound is introduced 01:43:835 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - . I think you should make 01:43:490 (1,2) - part of 01:42:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , and make a new pattern with 01:43:835 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - , Much like you did 01:49:007 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - im not even trying to focus on vocals there

01:50:042 (1,2,3,4,1) - Curvy streams like this look bad imo. They don't add much with adding an eye soar and don't play any different. You make this feel more important than it is buy making it have a very special shape that's not needed. the shape is part of the emphasis, its true that the curves aren't not relevant at all, but i think that it fits with the part im trying to do there

01:58:662 - Add a note, 01:59:352 - here, 02:00:042 - here, 02:00:214 - here, 02:00:386 - here, and 02:00:559 - here. Gets rid of the break while emphasizing the VERY important vocal cry. Just try it out, I think it sounds fantastic rather than a boring break. everything is so boring for u zzz , i made 1 break and 1 mapped part of that , and it have its purpose so ill not ruin it

02:05:559 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This pattern feels really weighted to the right and uneven. Make 02:05:559 (1,2) - the same shape as 02:05:904 (1,2) - , and 02:06:248 (1,2) - the same as 02:06:593 (1,2) - . I think it looks and plays better with the even climbing of the rhythm unlike what you have. You did it 02:16:593 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . Same sound, different way of how you did it. done

02:19:869 (3,1) - These feel random and shoehorned in. In the rest of this section there is nothing like it, and you ignore (what should be) clickable strong rhythms on 02:20:214 - and 02:20:731 - . its one of my favs parts on the map plz i love it

02:31:421 (3) - The jagged section of this slider feels to short and crammed in there, so it makes it feel very uneven and top heavy. This is easily fixed by making the tail end curve more like THIS ok i guess

02:57:973 (1,2) - Same as before.
03:13:490 (2) - I think this plays better and gives more impact if its put over the head of 03:13:835 (1) - . Makes it so you go from a moving jump to a stunned stop and gap in time. Makes it feel better to play imo. sure

03:37:628 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This looks really ugly. Make it more round and less unbalanced so it looks better and doesn't play stiff like how it does around 03:37:628 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - . it looks good imo

03:57:628 (5) - NC because of the dip in the stream along with consistency ok
05:02:110 (1,2) - Last time I'll mention it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
05:08:662 (3,4,5,6,1) - Inconsistency with how you structure this stream throughout the map. but i did literally the same 03:04:524 (3,4,5,6,1) -
05:18:662 (1) - Delete this note. I think it sounds better and gives a bigger impact if you map to the vocals. there's a vocald AAAND a really strong sound
05:40:731 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This is 1/6, not 1/4. if i do 1/6 there it would be really uncomfortable to play, so im better undermapping 1 sec of the map to make the playability better, dont you think so?
06:25:904 (2) - Making this into a stream that ends on 06:26:248 - fits the rhythm better imo, and plays pretty cool. it doesn't

Some final overall thoughts
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I think all of the overlaps make it look unpolished and messy contrasting the song in a bad way. Also, you change flow in very weird places that feel random at times. You should change flow every strong beat to give more impact and to not make it feel like you're spinning your cursor in one direction like how your map feels for the vast majority of the play time. Everything in this map looks the same in aesthetics, note placement, and movement which make it boring to play. Inconsistencies in rhythm choice make it weird and not fun to play in areas with random changes.
Since all the overlaps have a purpose, i wont discuss about it... yeah there are some places that i change flow in a kinda weird way IN THE EDITOR, but it would be good if you take a bit of your time and play it , it really plays good and its not random at all, also i dont know how do you guys (in general) think, i do a map and everyone thinks its unconsistent, i make it consistent and now the whole map is that similar that is boring, i make a map that isnt consistent at all but with good feelings and people dont like so how is it :thinking: (maybe im exagerating but zzzzz) i never do random thinks even if you think so, everything i do i use my mind to do it LOL
Best of luck Thanks for your mod, i dont usually see mods where people explain why should i change things, so thanks :)

squirrelpascals wrote:

Screenshots are purely examples as to how a problem can be fixed oku :p

Lince
• You have very similar combo colors, including an unrankable white combo color (which you should replace with like a very light grey). You're going to have to cut the grey combo colors that you use to just like 2 or three, they should all be visually different o shit! fixed

• 00:24:524 (1,2) - 00:35:559 (1,2,3,4,1) - These two rhythms are different, yet mapped to the same vocal pattern. Make this consistent? done!

• 00:43:835 (2) - unsnapped lol yeah i realized it in the mod from before :(

• 00:54:438 (6,7) - 01:30:042 (3,4,5) - Make this more like a stream, like you did at 00:51:421 (5,6,7) - and 00:55:559 (3,4,5) - ? i dont get it at all, the last one is not even releated lol, ill keep it like that

• 00:58:317 - Make clickable? nope, it fits better as a long slider

• 01:36:593 - Make this clickable as well, it feels awkward starting the pattern at 01:36:766 - its fine already imo

• 01:56:938 (1) - I think you could provide more exaggeration to this note through spacing, the note is on a new group of guitar notes (the three notes that descend in pitch that are repeated) and there is a pretty strong snare there 01:56:938 (1,2) - but i already did that, just that if i space more the first one i could ruin the pattern D:

• 02:07:283 (2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't a stream be here? with a note at 02:07:542 - i think its fine like that tbh

• 02:12:110 (1) - This slow slider is uncalled for, just make it normal speed there's a sound that makes me want to lower it, should be low sv imo

• 02:14:352 (3,4) - This rhythm isn't that great here, because of the strong note on the sliderend at 02:14:697 - Make it two 1/2 sliders here to bring out that guitar? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7665701 i really do feel that its perfect rhythm, maybe it depends on who's hearing it

• 02:15:904 (3,4,5,6,7) - This whole stream should start at 02:15:731 - , because the hi hats these should be mapped to stop at 02:16:076 - true, fixed

• 02:53:490 (1) - colorhax suggestion: make this a red slider? It would make the slider stand out to the player from 02:52:455 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and tell them that the slider plays differently. Also, the same slider at 01:39:007 (1) - is also red how to do it lol, also its a really uncommon suggestion, i thought that it didnt even matter lol

• 03:02:628 (1,2,3,4) - Stream here? nop

• 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - Why are these overlapped? The stops in flow here feel forced in such an intense part of the song, I would switch the places of 2 and 3 i tried to separate them but it came to be big black v2 and i dont want that

• 03:57:628 (5) - This is the only time youve put a corner in the more intense part of this map starting from 03:49:007 - . I would remove it i had search other similar sound where to put another one but i couldn't find, actually it fits imo so ill not remove it

• 04:19:007 - Make clickable? too early

• 04:48:317 (1,2) - Make slider ends clickable here too? This seems like the intensity in the map reduces compared to 04:46:938 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - its part of the ending of the pattern so i dont want to make them clickable

• 04:55:214 (1,2,3,4) - This might sound like a dumb suggestion, but can you make this a lighter combo color? Both times I've playtested this map I forget that there is still rhythm to account for at this part of the map, so maybe a light combo color here will bring more attention to the player? idk lol wait how do you see map combo colours, actually i use default skin and i only see the default skin colours

• 05:48:317 (3,4) - Overap these? Or make that buzz slider end at 05:48:662 - The spacing makes it look like it plays similarly to 05:42:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - with the consistent 1/2 gap in between objects. Same for 05:59:352 (4,5) - nah

• 05:52:800 (6,7) - Account for the blue ticks that come after these notes somehow? Maybe kicksliders would be cool https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7665837 kicksliders are intense, i want it to be calm, never happened to you that you was in the ending of a map, slow part, and you fucked up with an unexpected slider that appeared from all the sudden?? it did to me, and i dont want to map things that i hate, so no

• 06:22:800 (2,1) - Space these more? no need xD

Solid map! good luck :) Thanks! good luck in your mapset as well
c:
Updated~
HML

Lince wrote:

Since all the overlaps have a purpose, i wont discuss about it... yeah there are some places that i change flow in a kinda weird way IN THE EDITOR, but it would be good if you take a bit of your time and play it ,

I don't think it's fair to judge a map without playing it, which is why I did ;D
That's how I noticed the HP was low, and the flow was very one sided

Screenshot

My 50k is showing
newton-
hi, from queue

[general]
  1. background picture is very related to the song 10/10 xdddd (srsly pls change to something relevant)
[ lince's deceived]
  1. 00:23:835 - if youre gonna prioritize vocals here maybe map this sound
  2. 00:44:179 (1,2) - might be misread as 1/2 due to spacing, maybe stack these or space them out a bit more
  3. 01:07:973 (1) - unnecessary nc imo, you dont need to add extra emphasis thru nc here
  4. 01:52:283 (3,4,5) - for aesthetics, maybe move this so it forms a straight line with 01:51:766 (1,2) - and also 01:52:628 (6,7) -
  5. 01:55:731 (2,1) - flow here might be a bit weird, players will be used to the back and forth flow set up earlier so theyre going to assume the next note is somewhere around 01:55:559 (1) - instead of where it actually is
  6. 02:12:110 (1,1) - even with slider leniency, spacing might be too large for a 1/4 gap
  7. 03:10:214 (2,1) - the low spacing here kinda kills all the momentum you get from doing the previous jumps
  8. 03:49:869 (2,3) - switch the position of these two to keep the back and forth movement from the previous combo
  9. 04:22:455 (2,3) - again, switch positions for consistency with next two combos
  10. 04:54:869 (1,1) - gap is too large imo, players will have to leave the buzzslider early to hit the circle
  11. 05:03:317 (2,1) - also kills momentum
  12. 05:34:697 (2,3) - same as 04:22:455 (2,3) - , for consistency with next combo
amazing map, have a star!
- Frontier -
from my q, fast check

[General]
  1. Tick out "Widescreen Support" and "Display epilepsy warning" please cuz your map has no sb.
[Lince's Deceived]
  1. When you do something like this 00:46:593 (1,1), I think you should make it near.
  2. 04:57:455 (1,2,3,1) - Why you don't make like the others? Like 01:39:007 (1,1).
Good map.
GL~
Nowaie
NM REQUEST FROM THE SM8 QUEUE


General
You could add "marathon" to the tags

Audio preview time conflicts between the difficulties

Inconsistency in epilepsy warning between the difficulties

The BG isn't really relevant, also it's bit stretched for a widescreen. It'd be better if you would find a new, relevant BG that was 1920x1080 or 1366x768 (16:9)

Lince

04:54:869 (1) - Unsnapped slider repeats

00:31:421 (2) - tbh i don't really think this has been mapped on anything that should be an active note as there isn't really any audible sounds nor vocals. (there is the suuuuper silent echo but it's just too quiet imo to have any effect) So maybe you could explain what are you trying to follow with the click/active note?

00:44:179 (1,2,3) - newton already mentioned the possibility for a misread here

00:57:283 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - As you have sort of used the 4 object style for this pattern ( 00:57:283 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:57:628 (1,2,3,4) - ) you could divide these 00:57:886 (4,1) - two maybe somewhat similarly like you did for these two 00:57:542 (4,1) - to keep up with the 4 object pattern style properly over these 00:57:628 (1,2,3,4) - aswell

00:52:800 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:55:559 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - The way you differently emphasize the streams that have been placed on pretty much similar beats is kinda weird imo, maybe you could help me understand why it is like so?

01:19:179 (6,7,1,2,3) - Maybe you could switch up the rhythm here by a bit to be something like this http://puu.sh/v2sSz/e01567b34f.jpg. Firstly 01:19:438 - This should be mapped as an active note since you deem this 01:19:352 - as an active one aswell. Also 01:19:179 (6,7) - changing these into a 1/4 slider would divide it nicely from the stronger beats ( 01:19:352 - , 01:19:438 - and 01:19:524 - )

01:36:593 - Instead of having the first drum beat mapped under the end of the spinner just give it it's own hitcircle, it deserves it

01:37:628 (3,1) - These could be mapped as a 5 note stream just fine :s

01:43:490 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - 01:54:524 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - Imo these patterns in the kiais do not really fit to the section it's mapped on. Pretty much random spacing, spacing changing, flow changing, mappable beats missed ( 01:45:473 - 01:45:645 - 01:56:679 - ) which you deem to be mappable here 01:56:507 (2) - and 1|2 spam (yes they have a similar stylish beat they are placed on but 1/2 sliders or following the vocals would fit much better). I just can't see what are you trying to achieve with it

01:59:182 - I really do not see a reason why should you even create an artificial break here. The HP drain is very forgiving and holds over a short amount of not having notes even with HR, it's just a distraction while playing

02:05:559 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Some of the claps are seriously kinda overdone, giving the pattern much more emphasis through hitsounding that it actually imo deserves. Maybe you could use similar hitsounds as you used for these 02:16:593 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -

02:54:610 (6,7) - The 7 is a bit more spaced when compared to the other objects in the stream

03:26:593 (1) - Slow SV doesn't really represent the sound it's mapped on, it's a sort of "pew" like a lazer in any kind of movie thus i'd expect something kinda fast mapped on the sound

03:32:455 (1) - Even though this is an extra difficulty people this kind of placement of sliders will still throw the players off the track. Since the next object on the exactly opposite direction as the initial headpoint|reversepoint suggests, thus it messages to the players that there would be an uneven amount of reverses. Here though you have an even amount of reverses so the slider finishes to the exactly other side than the next object is, making the pattern a real pain in the ass to properly read. This kind of placement is furtherly opposed by the way you have mapped the sliders prior to this one 03:27:628 (1,2) - 03:29:007 (1,2) - such as in these two occasions, when there is an equal number of reverses the object is in front of the slider, when there are an uneven amount of reverses 02:27:628 (2) - the movement reverses. Suggestion applies to all similar patterns

03:37:628 (5,6) - The 6 is spaced little bit less from the previous object than the other objects are in the stream

03:48:662 (1) - Since the sound you are following with the buzz does not stop here 03:48:892 - just continue it all the way to 03:48:978 - and move the next slider to the side where you placed the buzz slider

03:49:869 (2,3) - Agree with newton w

03:53:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,4) - You can reduce the amount of finishes used for these sliders... it's way too much right now

04:00:042 (1) - Kind of a pointless NC since this 03:59:697 (1,2,3,4,1) - is a single pattern and imo should be a single combo aswell

04:10:904 (1) - It's kinda weird that you instantly change from following the vocals into the drums 04:11:421 (2,1,1) - , since you only follow the drums for that section i don't see a reason to keep this 04:10:904 (1) -

04:22:455 (2,3) - Agree with newton again w

04:50:386 (9,9) - You could NC these two so the combo in the stream doesn't really get into the double digits. Imo it's just nicer to look at

04:54:524 (1,1) - The single hitsounds on these sound really unnecessary. The buzz is getting faster so it's no use following something that doesn't really exist on that part by hitsounding. The hitnormals should do the just fine

04:55:214 (1) - This isn't mapped on anything. Just extend the buzz slider to 04:55:214 - as the buzz does continue all the way to there but there isn't any specific beats the single hitcircle would specifically follow

05:07:628 (1,1) - Why this one has normal-hitwhistle? You haven't used that kind of hitsounding in the other kiais on similar points?
05:15:042 (1) - ^Same but this one has drum-hitclap

05:22:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This kind of change in the amount of curveture doesn't really imo look good. The curveture should be the same in a stream pattern unless the curveture is changed by an appropriate way to change it such as a sharp turn 05:24:869 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . For example here 05:21:421 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - you use the same curveture for the whole stream, the stream looks to be whole and has a logical structure

05:30:731 (1) - Same as before with the "pew" sound

05:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 05:33:490 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Kinda agree with newton again w but with little bit different reasoning. This kind of patterning 05:31:076 (1,2,3,4) - is 100% fine but instead of changing the way to place the sliders multiple times you should choose to either do all the sliders like 05:31:076 (1,2,3,4) - these or like these 05:35:214 (1,2,3,4) - . I'd recommend the second option since it seems to be the way you prefer generally

05:48:317 (3) - Since you have extended the slider to be all the way (to the final tick before the next object) through why not do similarly here 05:54:869 (2) - ? The sound the slider would be following does last until that final tick and over it aswell, but the final tick is better to finish on the slider for the sake of playability

06:25:904 (2) - The 8 bit stylish sound here theoretically lasts all the way until 06:26:248 - so imo having the slider reversed and the end completely silenced (by a blank audio file) would be a good idea. The ranking criteria allows sliderends to be completely silenced as long as it makes sense http://puu.sh/v2BNL/775bd0715c.png and imo 06:26:248 - this not having a specific beat the tail would follow is good enough of a reason

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00:55:559 (3) -
01:28:662 -
01:45:214 (3) -
02:22:455 (3) -
02:22:628 (1) -
03:50:042 -
03:52:800 -
03:53:490 -
05:35:559 -
05:36:938 (5) -

Good luck~
yoshee4232
Coming over from my NM queue

Found this map really fun, and didn't really find any huge problems, most of what I put is mostly smaller details

Decieved
  1. from here 00:49:697 (1) to here 01:12:800 (1) it feels like the flow stays counterclockwise for a bit to long, maybe switch it up a bit
  2. 02:34:524 (1,2,3) - I think these objects should be blanketed
  3. 03:04:524 (3,4,5,6) - you should have the kind of "shakey?" stream that you use here 03:15:559 (3,4,5,6) because it's a similar sound and it looks cool IMO
  4. 03:33:145 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this streams kinks sound a bit off, you should put one here 03:33:490 (6) and here 03:34:179 (5) similar to what you did for this stream 03:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)
  5. 03:42:800 (1) - similar idea, this stream kink feels out of place
  6. 03:44:179 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - kinks should be placed here 03:44:524 (6) and here 03:45:214 (5)
  7. 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern of two sliders right on top of each other breaks what you were doing previously by having them spaced as jumps, so you should place them in the same way you did the others
  8. 04:39:352 (1) - remove NC here
  9. 04:52:455 (1) - this repeat slider feels like it goes on for a tad too long
  10. 05:05:042 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - the spacing differences in these jumps feel kind of random
  11. 05:25:559 (1) - why do you have one long repeater when you use two shorter ones like these 05:23:490 (1,2) throughout the whole section
  12. 05:38:662 (1) - just have two 1/4 sliders here, the repeater feels out of place
  13. 05:48:317 (3,4) - make this slider 1/8 of a beat shorter, not a lot of people expect a 1/8 jump to a normal circle, even after a buzz slider
  14. 06:14:179 (1) - this slider ends on a really strong drum beat and I think you should have a clickable object
  15. 06:19:697 (2) - ^

Anyways, really fun map, hope it gets ranked :)
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

newton- wrote:

hi, from queue

[general]
  1. background picture is very related to the song 10/10 xdddd (srsly pls change to something relevant)
[ lince's deceived]
  1. 00:23:835 - if youre gonna prioritize vocals here maybe map this sound iim focusing in the bg sounds
  2. 00:44:179 (1,2) - might be misread as 1/2 due to spacing, maybe stack these or space them out a bit more i think its fine already, but ill move it a bit cuz i have to re-blanket it with 00:43:490 (1) -
  3. 01:07:973 (1) - unnecessary nc imo, you dont need to add extra emphasis thru nc here yah ,removed
  4. 01:52:283 (3,4,5) - for aesthetics, maybe move this so it forms a straight line with 01:51:766 (1,2) - and also 01:52:628 (6,7) - done both
  5. 01:55:731 (2,1) - flow here might be a bit weird, players will be used to the back and forth flow set up earlier so theyre going to assume the next note is somewhere around 01:55:559 (1) - instead of where it actually is it flows good imo D:
  6. 02:12:110 (1,1) - even with slider leniency, spacing might be too large for a 1/4 gap yah , i reduced it a bit
  7. 03:10:214 (2,1) - the low spacing here kinda kills all the momentum you get from doing the previous jumps 03:11:421 (5,6) - here u have ur spacing
  8. 03:49:869 (2,3) - switch the position of these two to keep the back and forth movement from the previous combo think its already fine, i dont really want a back and forth there
  9. 04:22:455 (2,3) - again, switch positions for consistency with next two combos no lol
  10. 04:54:869 (1,1) - gap is too large imo, players will have to leave the buzzslider early to hit the circle its one tic (1/4) of space, i think its enough
  11. 05:03:317 (2,1) - also kills momentum but it looks sooo cleearrrr (no, really, i want to keep it)
  12. 05:34:697 (2,3) - same as 04:22:455 (2,3) - , for consistency with next combo same
amazing map, have a star!
woah thanks for the star!

Lince Cosmico wrote:

- Frontier - wrote:

from my q, fast check

[General]
  1. Tick out "Widescreen Support" and "Display epilepsy warning" please cuz your map has no sb. actually I asked for someone to do an SB, darky1 said that he's interested but for now we dont have any SB'er , anyway we'll uncheck until we get one
[Lince's Deceived]
  1. When you do something like this 00:46:593 (1,1), I think you should make it near. naaaaaaaaaah :v)
  2. 04:57:455 (1,2,3,1) - Why you don't make like the others? Like 01:39:007 (1,1). 04:57:800 - cuz here's a relevant sound, unlike the other parts, also its the last kiai, it would be nice to make it more intense on there
Good map.
GL~
Thanks :)

Lince Cosmico wrote:

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

NM REQUEST FROM THE SM8 QUEUE


General
You could add "marathon" to the tags oki

Audio preview time conflicts between the difficulties maybe its because i changed it, hope gaston read this , btw is this really a problem?

Inconsistency in epilepsy warning between the difficulties read my answer for the mod from above x(

The BG isn't really relevant, also it's bit stretched for a widescreen. It'd be better if you would find a new, relevant BG that was 1920x1080 or 1366x768 (16:9) thats what we're trying to find since... weeks already LOL , also i asked people to help me but we couldn't fint anything that fits properly :/

Lince

04:54:869 (1) - Unsnapped slider repeats fixed !!

00:31:421 (2) - tbh i don't really think this has been mapped on anything that should be an active note as there isn't really any audible sounds nor vocals. (there is the suuuuper silent echo but it's just too quiet imo to have any effect) So maybe you could explain what are you trying to follow with the click/active note? there's a really notable part (exactly where that note is) where the music changes, i used that as reference

00:44:179 (1,2,3) - newton already mentioned the possibility for a misread here and i did already fix that, (wow someone that checks other mods to don't repeat the same things, are you my hero!??

00:57:283 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - As you have sort of used the 4 object style for this pattern ( 00:57:283 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:57:628 (1,2,3,4) - ) you could divide these 00:57:886 (4,1) - two maybe somewhat similarly like you did for these two 00:57:542 (4,1) - to keep up with the 4 object pattern style properly over these 00:57:628 (1,2,3,4) - aswell hmm i think that its not necesary at all, i actually like the 4-5 notes pattern (instead of a 4-4-1) i only want to interpret 00:57:542 (4,1) - this change because the sound on the bg, and the only thing that changes 00:57:973 (1) - here is the clap

00:52:800 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:55:559 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - The way you differently emphasize the streams that have been placed on pretty much similar beats is kinda weird imo, maybe you could help me understand why it is like so? i was trying to do that as clear as possible, i wanted to keep the circular flow that i made by doing 00:55:214 (1,2,3) - instead of doing an straight stream

01:19:179 (6,7,1,2,3) - Maybe you could switch up the rhythm here by a bit to be something like this http://puu.sh/v2sSz/e01567b34f.jpg. Firstly 01:19:438 - This should be mapped as an active note since you deem this 01:19:352 - as an active one aswell. Also 01:19:179 (6,7) - changing these into a 1/4 slider would divide it nicely from the stronger beats ( 01:19:352 - , 01:19:438 - and 01:19:524 - ) actually i already got some ideas for that part on mods i got before, but i really want to keep the consistency with these 2 kick sliders like i did in the whole map, instead of adding a new pattern that ruins it a bit

01:36:593 - Instead of having the first drum beat mapped under the end of the spinner just give it it's own hitcircle, it deserves it ok ill finally do this xD

01:37:628 (3,1) - These could be mapped as a 5 note stream just fine :s ikr, but its not the place to put an stream imo

01:43:490 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - 01:54:524 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - Imo these patterns in the kiais do not really fit to the section it's mapped on. Pretty much random spacing, spacing changing, flow changing, mappable beats missed ( 01:45:473 - 01:45:645 - 01:56:679 - ) which you deem to be mappable here 01:56:507 (2) - and 1|2 spam (yes they have a similar stylish beat they are placed on but 1/2 sliders or following the vocals would fit much better). I just can't see what are you trying to achieve with it random spacing what no D:, i only did miss some triples but all of it was because i wanted to emphasize more with the main sounds

01:59:182 - I really do not see a reason why should you even create an artificial break here. The HP drain is very forgiving and holds over a short amount of not having notes even with HR, it's just a distraction while playing fuck, its true LOL i forgot about it and made a break, i just removed the break

02:05:559 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Some of the claps are seriously kinda overdone, giving the pattern much more emphasis through hitsounding that it actually imo deserves. Maybe you could use similar hitsounds as you used for these 02:16:593 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - #blameRLC, i mean, fixed xD

02:54:610 (6,7) - The 7 is a bit more spaced when compared to the other objects in the stream yah i was wondering about it, fixed

03:26:593 (1) - Slow SV doesn't really represent the sound it's mapped on, it's a sort of "pew" like a lazer in any kind of movie thus i'd expect something kinda fast mapped on the sound it does imo

03:32:455 (1) - Even though this is an extra difficulty people this kind of placement of sliders will still throw the players off the track. Since the next object on the exactly opposite direction as the initial headpoint|reversepoint suggests, thus it messages to the players that there would be an uneven amount of reverses. Here though you have an even amount of reverses so the slider finishes to the exactly other side than the next object is, making the pattern a real pain in the ass to properly read. This kind of placement is furtherly opposed by the way you have mapped the sliders prior to this one 03:27:628 (1,2) - 03:29:007 (1,2) - such as in these two occasions, when there is an equal number of reverses the object is in front of the slider, when there are an uneven amount of reverses 02:27:628 (2) - the movement reverses. Suggestion applies to all similar patterns holy shit why does people hate it that much LOL ill make counter that shows me how many times people asked me to change this, no, i wont change it D:

03:37:628 (5,6) - The 6 is spaced little bit less from the previous object than the other objects are in the stream woops, the wrong thing was the circle 5, my bad

03:48:662 (1) - Since the sound you are following with the buzz does not stop here 03:48:892 - just continue it all the way to 03:48:978 - and move the next slider to the side where you placed the buzz slider the spacing would be really biig for that small difference of time, but i added one reverse so it ends at the blue tic

03:49:869 (2,3) - Agree with newton w zzz

03:53:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,4) - You can reduce the amount of finishes used for these sliders... it's way too much right now done

04:00:042 (1) - Kind of a pointless NC since this 03:59:697 (1,2,3,4,1) - is a single pattern and imo should be a single combo aswell that NC really do not affect the gameplay so idk why should i remove it, the only thing it does affect is that if you tap it you will win more HP, so it can works as a "save key" for someone that finds hard to hit the stream (or make a mistake and fullchoke it)

04:10:904 (1) - It's kinda weird that you instantly change from following the vocals into the drums 04:11:421 (2,1,1) - , since you only follow the drums for that section i don't see a reason to keep this 04:10:904 (1) - guitar

04:22:455 (2,3) - Agree with newton again w zzz again

04:50:386 (9,9) - You could NC these two so the combo in the stream doesn't really get into the double digits. Imo it's just nicer to look at it looks nicer yeah but it actually makes no sense since the sound that changes is 04:51:076 - here, not adding this

04:54:524 (1,1) - The single hitsounds on these sound really unnecessary. The buzz is getting faster so it's no use following something that doesn't really exist on that part by hitsounding. The hitnormals should do the just fine fixed :v)

04:55:214 (1) - This isn't mapped on anything. Just extend the buzz slider to 04:55:214 - as the buzz does continue all the way to there but there isn't any specific beats the single hitcircle would specifically follow it is not overmaped, if you delete them and hear correctly you will find a really low volume amount of sounds that fits perfectly there, i realized it while skipping mapping it LOL

05:07:628 (1,1) - Why this one has normal-hitwhistle? You haven't used that kind of hitsounding in the other kiais on similar points?
05:15:042 (1) - ^Same but this one has drum-hitclap cuz rlc's hitsounds suks kappa, jk, ill do a little check later

05:22:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This kind of change in the amount of curveture doesn't really imo look good. The curveture should be the same in a stream pattern unless the curveture is changed by an appropriate way to change it such as a sharp turn 05:24:869 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . For example here 05:21:421 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - you use the same curveture for the whole stream, the stream looks to be whole and has a logical structure for now ill keep it like this, but ill have to do a clear shape i think

05:30:731 (1) - Same as before with the "pew" sound sam3

05:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 05:33:490 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Kinda agree with newton again w but with little bit different reasoning. This kind of patterning 05:31:076 (1,2,3,4) - is 100% fine but instead of changing the way to place the sliders multiple times you should choose to either do all the sliders like 05:31:076 (1,2,3,4) - these or like these 05:35:214 (1,2,3,4) - . I'd recommend the second option since it seems to be the way you prefer generally i dont want to spam back and forth D:, btw your idea is good, but i dont think that changing it would be a really nice idea, at least for now

05:48:317 (3) - Since you have extended the slider to be all the way (to the final tick before the next object) through why not do similarly here 05:54:869 (2) - ? The sound the slider would be following does last until that final tick and over it aswell, but the final tick is better to finish on the slider for the sake of playability Because i want that to be exactly 5 reverses so it would emphasize perfectly

06:25:904 (2) - The 8 bit stylish sound here theoretically lasts all the way until 06:26:248 - so imo having the slider reversed and the end completely silenced (by a blank audio file) would be a good idea. The ranking criteria allows sliderends to be completely silenced as long as it makes sense http://puu.sh/v2BNL/775bd0715c.png and imo 06:26:248 - this not having a specific beat the tail would follow is good enough of a reason i thiink its good as its right now, i dont think that making it reverse would be good because it's actually not alone ( 06:25:559 (1,2) - ) also im avoiding to silence just in case

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00:55:559 (3) -
01:28:662 -
01:45:214 (3) -
02:22:455 (3) -
02:22:628 (1) -
03:50:042 - there's already a clap lol
03:52:800 -
03:53:490 -
05:35:559 -
05:36:938 (5) -
Applied everything on hiitsounds except the red one!
Good luck~
woah big mod, thanks!
Updated~

@cooldude: Your mod will be answered tomorrow because the mapper is tired
Shira
hi im here

[lince]
i think slider tick rate 2 is a bit too much.. especially at the beginning
00:28:662 (3) - although this is more of personal preference, there isnt really a sound that indicates a slider art change like this so i would just make it a regular slider
00:31:421 (2) - i dont think theres a sound here (?) you were pretty much following the vocals beforehand so maybe delete this note to keep consistency? (and 00:32:455 (2) - as well)
00:35:559 (1,2) - spacing here is kind of small compared to what youve been doing i.e. 00:32:455 (2,1) - . ctrk+g this slider to make it more easier to read?
00:46:248 - to keep with the curves, maybe curve this as well? : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7690146
00:48:317 (3,4) - dont really get the stack here since the stronger beat should be on the second beat so i think you should stack these instead 00:48:145 (2,3) - (applies to others as well i.e. 00:51:076 (3,4) - )
00:48:317 (3) - also NC for the downbeat
00:57:973 (1,6) - blanket this xD
01:09:869 (4) - i think you should ctrl+g the rhythm here 01:09:869 (4,1) - to make the more prominent beat clickable
01:26:938 (1) - normal sampleset to keep it consistent with 01:25:559 (1) - ?
01:43:490 - the 1-2 jumps are pretty random here.. the music doesnt really call for it so maybe change it up a bit
01:50:300 (4,1) - consider spacing this out from the stream for the noice downbeat emphasis
01:58:662 - add a note here for a nice kiai finisher?
02:15:042 (6,1) - spacing here is kind of weak. stronger sound here but 02:14:869 (5,6) - is spaced more than this. should be the other way around imo
02:16:248 (7,8) - another thing on emphasis, the sound from 7-8 is not that larger so i would decrease the spacing to make 02:16:593 (1) - stand out more
02:42:110 (2) - ctrl+g this slider to match the spacing you were doing in this section?
02:49:352 (9,1) - increase the spacing here like you did here 02:50:731 (8,1) - . itlll compliment the song much more
03:10:214 (2,1) - pls emphasis the downbeat moarrr
03:15:817 (6,1) - lalala increase spacing from the stream to slider? same reason as last time
03:20:731 (3,4) - the flow here kind of destroys the counter clockwise flow you were building up here 03:18:662 - plus the sound isnt too big so no reason for flow change
03:32:455 (1,2) - wats dis spacing. if you say its for emphasis, you shouldve spaced it out on parts like 03:31:335 (4,1) - plus its not really landing on a prominent sound like 03:30:731 (2,1) - is so maybe just decrease spacing
03:53:145 - i kind of understood the overlap things before like 03:49:697 - but this one doesnt really make sense imo since the sound is completely different..
03:51:076 - also, try to make this the same rhythm as 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - since you know, same sound
03:59:697 - flow here for this stream is really awkward to move in so maybe rotate it 90 degrees and put it upright
04:13:490 (2,3) - swap the spacing here to make the 2 easier to read? applies to others as well
04:22:110 - so like you do this kind of spacing here but change it up here 04:23:490 - which is kind of inconsistent in spacing imo so make them the same spacing? like overlap these 2 04:23:490 (1,2) - instead of 04:23:490 (1,3) - or fix 04:22:110 - by ctrl+g spacing here 04:22:455 (2,3) -
04:52:455 - this slider feels awfully extended which makes it kind of boring xD i think you should continue the stream until 04:53:145 - or so
05:06:766 (3) - kind of weird rhythm here with the slider ending on the prominent beat
05:49:352 (2,3) - hahahahhaha blanket fix pls
05:58:317 (3) - maybe make this consistent flow wise to the other sliders since theyre the same sound
06:14:869 (4,5) - large spacing for no reason imo.. if anything, 06:15:042 (5,1) - should be larger instead
06:26:248 - add a note for dat nice finish
Hectic
Hello there. I asked owner of the mapset if I can mod std diff and he answered "yes". Most of my words are just suggestions, feel free for ignoring them.

Lince's Deceived

  1. 00:41:076 (1) - this slider needs to be perfect
  2. 01:00:904 (2,4,5,6,7,8) - can be better I think
  3. 01:00:904 (2,4,5,6,7,8) - making those not being curved the same would be better
  4. 01:14:869 (2,3,4,5,6) - make those look like a solid line
  5. 01:45:386 (1,2) - not the same Y
  6. 02:12:110 (1) - got 100 on this few times in a row, no need to be slow
  7. 02:25:559 (3) - upper white dot a bit to the right
  8. 02:37:800 (3,1) - not similar direction
  9. 02:53:317 (8) - maybe to the 02:52:973 (6) - ? and 02:53:490 (1) - somewhere else
  10. 02:54:352 (3,4,5,6,7) - :c
  11. 02:59:007 (1,2) - overmapped? 01:44:524 (1,2) - same intensity - much less space
    (05:13:835 (1,2,1,2) - same)
  12. 03:00:559 (2,3,1) - higher
  13. 03:10:731 (3) - a bit further from 03:10:559 (2)
  14. 04:35:731 (1) - not perfect
Short streams (I mean those which consist of 5 notes) feel a bit clumsy sometimes but overall a good map, good luck polishing and getting it ranked!

As for background, maybe something from foo fighters' official music video?
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

cooldude4232 wrote:

Coming over from my NM queue

Found this map really fun, and didn't really find any huge problems, most of what I put is mostly smaller details

Decieved
  1. from here 00:49:697 (1) to here 01:12:800 (1) it feels like the flow stays counterclockwise for a bit to long, maybe switch it up a bit yah its because its the purpose, intil the "long stream"
  2. 02:34:524 (1,2,3) - I think these objects should be blanketed wat no, i thiink its fine already
  3. 03:04:524 (3,4,5,6) - you should have the kind of "shakey?" stream that you use here 03:15:559 (3,4,5,6) because it's a similar sound and it looks cool IMO Done on every similar part ( 05:08:662 - and 03:04:524 -
  4. 03:33:145 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this streams kinks sound a bit off, you should put one here 03:33:490 (6) and here 03:34:179 (5) similar to what you did for this stream 03:31:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) Why does everyone talks about this one! its not that bad imo
  5. 03:42:800 (1) - similar idea, this stream kink feels out of place
  6. 03:44:179 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - kinks should be placed here 03:44:524 (6) and here 03:45:214 (5) im not following claps there
  7. 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern of two sliders right on top of each other breaks what you were doing previously by having them spaced as jumps, so you should place them in the same way you did the others actually the first one is different (or second zzz) in purpose,
  8. 04:39:352 (1) - remove NC here done on both similar parts
  9. 04:52:455 (1) - this repeat slider feels like it goes on for a tad too long i wanted it to look like that cuz you could confuse it with the fastest ones
  10. 05:05:042 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - the spacing differences in these jumps feel kind of random im taking stacks as reference
  11. 05:25:559 (1) - why do you have one long repeater when you use two shorter ones like these 05:23:490 (1,2) throughout the whole section its consistent , i did on every long sound i had, you can hear a long "tuuuuuuuuuuum" after the 4combo streams, i dont see why does people complain a lot about this, i did it in every kiai at the same similar points tho
  12. 05:38:662 (1) - just have two 1/4 sliders here, the repeater feels out of place it doesn't imo, i used that to add emphasis 05:38:662 (1,2,3) - with this
  13. 05:48:317 (3,4) - make this slider 1/8 of a beat shorter, not a lot of people expect a 1/8 jump to a normal circle, even after a buzz slider its 1/6, also the spacing is just too low so people would be able to get x300 there
  14. 06:14:179 (1) - this slider ends on a really strong drum beat and I think you should have a clickable object not adding it cuz emphasis reasons (both)
  15. 06:19:697 (2) - ^

Anyways, really fun map, hope it gets ranked :)
Thanks dude , i hope it gets ranked too ;w;

Lince Cosmico wrote:

Shiratoi wrote:

hi im here yes you're

[lince]
i think slider tick rate 2 is a bit too much.. especially at the beginning o shit true, fixed
00:28:662 (3) - although this is more of personal preference, there isnt really a sound that indicates a slider art change like this so i would just make it a regular slider when i hear it, the only think i can do is to hear something here 00:29:007 - , thats why i did it, to represent that sound but idk maybe im just thinking that its there and its not, but ill keep it
00:31:421 (2) - i dont think theres a sound here (?) you were pretty much following the vocals beforehand so maybe delete this note to keep consistency? (and 00:32:455 (2) - as well) i did answer this before, there's where the sound does change
00:35:559 (1,2) - spacing here is kind of small compared to what youve been doing i.e. 00:32:455 (2,1) - . ctrk+g this slider to make it more easier to read? i did ctrl+G and spaced it a bit more (basically i stacked the sliderend of the slider 2 with the circle 2 of the next combo)
00:46:248 - to keep with the curves, maybe curve this as well? : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7690146 i think it fits really good being straight
00:48:317 (3,4) - dont really get the stack here since the stronger beat should be on the second beat so i think you should stack these instead 00:48:145 (2,3) - (applies to others as well i.e. 00:51:076 (3,4) - ) i tried to do a 2-2 combo with 00:47:973 (1,2,3,4) - all of these are the same sound, but i didn't want to make full jump (cuz it would be a full jumpy map and i dont want that) so i did stack these as "other way to interpret the sound" making it 2 different ways
00:48:317 (3) - also NC for the downbeat nope
00:57:973 (1,6) - blanket this xD why should I ? :V
01:09:869 (4) - i think you should ctrl+g the rhythm here 01:09:869 (4,1) - to make the more prominent beat clickable 01:10:214 (1,2,3) - i want the circle 1 to be part clickable and also part of the jump
01:26:938 (1) - normal sampleset to keep it consistent with 01:25:559 (1) - ? it doesnt really sounds good lol
01:43:490 - the 1-2 jumps are pretty random here.. the music doesnt really call for it so maybe change it up a bit music does
01:50:300 (4,1) - consider spacing this out from the stream for the noice downbeat emphasis i map thinks as how would i like to play it, and im not a big fan of separated streams tbh
01:58:662 - add a note here for a nice kiai finisher? i wonder about it, but since there's where the vocals starts doing "the break" i dont see why should i put a note there
02:15:042 (6,1) - spacing here is kind of weak. stronger sound here but 02:14:869 (5,6) - is spaced more than this. should be the other way around imo hmm i think its fine tho
02:16:248 (7,8) - another thing on emphasis, the sound from 7-8 is not that larger so i would decrease the spacing to make 02:16:593 (1) - stand out more done :D
02:42:110 (2) - ctrl+g this slider to match the spacing you were doing in this section? woah seems better, done
02:49:352 (9,1) - increase the spacing here like you did here 02:50:731 (8,1) - . itlll compliment the song much more its suposed to get more intense while the time pass i think
03:10:214 (2,1) - pls emphasis the downbeat moarrr allahu akbar
03:15:817 (6,1) - lalala increase spacing from the stream to slider? same reason as last time
03:20:731 (3,4) - the flow here kind of destroys the counter clockwise flow you were building up here 03:18:662 - plus the sound isnt too big so no reason for flow change thats the purpose of that pattern, after that is where the next part starts, so i kinda killed the clockwise there
03:32:455 (1,2) - wats dis spacing. if you say its for emphasis, you shouldve spaced it out on parts like 03:31:335 (4,1) - plus its not really landing on a prominent sound like 03:30:731 (2,1) - is so maybe just decrease spacing wat, its the same spacing to all the other streams LOL
03:53:145 - i kind of understood the overlap things before like 03:49:697 - but this one doesnt really make sense imo since the sound is completely different.. what does it have to do with the overlap thing? xD, also 03:53:145 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is all a build-up pattern
03:51:076 - also, try to make this the same rhythm as 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - since you know, same sound but i dont want to spam kicksliders everytime that sounds LOL, i just switch patterns there
03:59:697 - flow here for this stream is really awkward to move in so maybe rotate it 90 degrees and put it upright its breaking the flow, thats why its like that
04:13:490 (2,3) - swap the spacing here to make the 2 easier to read? applies to others as well done :3
04:22:110 - so like you do this kind of spacing here but change it up here 04:23:490 - which is kind of inconsistent in spacing imo so make them the same spacing? like overlap these 2 04:23:490 (1,2) - instead of 04:23:490 (1,3) - or fix 04:22:110 - by ctrl+g spacing here 04:22:455 (2,3) - i actually started "other part" there (i should divide parts in bookmarks tbh LOL) so i changed the whole pattern including spacing
04:52:455 - this slider feels awfully extended which makes it kind of boring xD i think you should continue the stream until 04:53:145 - or so zzzzz i cant really help it, sadly it does start there so i wont make the stream be longer for that :/
05:06:766 (3) - kind of weird rhythm here with the slider ending on the prominent beat but it does play good :ok_hand:
05:49:352 (2,3) - hahahahhaha blanket fix pls u caught me :(
05:58:317 (3) - maybe make this consistent flow wise to the other sliders since theyre the same sound its not the same sound tho, there's a strong sound that sounds on every sliderhead of these 3 sliders
06:14:869 (4,5) - large spacing for no reason imo.. if anything, 06:15:042 (5,1) - should be larger instead i made it higher cuz the 06:14:697 (2,3,4,5) - sounds from here are louder
06:26:248 - add a note for dat nice finish i dont want :c
so much red here, but i still love u annie, dont take me wrong ok, thanks
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h4d0u3n1: Your mod is answered tomorrow
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

h4d0uk3n1 wrote:

Hello there. I asked owner of the mapset if I can mod std diff and he answered "yes". Most of my words are just suggestions, feel free for ignoring them. hold on right there, why would i ignore this!? thanks for modding it ♥

Lince's Deceived

  1. 00:41:076 (1) - this slider needs to be perfect dont worry i fixed it in the last mod (also i just moved the red point a bit so it can be exactly on the slidertic
  2. 01:00:904 (2,4,5,6,7,8) - can be better I think yeah but i dont want to open it more for now
  3. 01:00:904 (2,4,5,6,7,8) - making those not being curved the same would be better curve seems good imo
  4. 01:14:869 (2,3,4,5,6) - make those look like a solid line but the slider has a curve (01:14:869 (2) - ) so i made the stream a bit curvy cuz that
  5. 01:45:386 (1,2) - not the same Y fixed
  6. 02:12:110 (1) - got 100 on this few times in a row, no need to be slow it have to be
  7. 02:25:559 (3) - upper white dot a bit to the right fixed
  8. 02:37:800 (3,1) - not similar direction fixed
  9. 02:53:317 (8) - maybe to the 02:52:973 (6) - ? and 02:53:490 (1) - somewhere else i think its fine as its now, cuz i want to break the flow with that 1
  10. 02:54:352 (3,4,5,6,7) - :c oh shit, fixed
  11. 02:59:007 (1,2) - overmapped? 01:44:524 (1,2) - same intensity - much less space its not overmaped if you hear, also the spacing represents almost the same thing, its just that the spacing on the first one is bigger on the 1-2 and on 01:44:524 (1,2) - its bigger on the 01:44:179 (1,1) - , these are just two ways to represent the same sound so its not wrong imo
    (05:13:835 (1,2,1,2) - same)
  12. 03:00:559 (2,3,1) - higher fixed that and the "x:156" problem
  13. 03:10:731 (3) - a bit further from 03:10:559 (2) fixed
  14. 04:35:731 (1) - not perfect fixed i think
Short streams (I mean those which consist of 5 notes) feel a bit clumsy sometimes but overall a good map, good luck polishing and getting it ranked! i love this kind of mods, please do more of this.... yeah they feel a bit clumsy, btw i did fixed some (or tried to make them looks clear)

As for background, maybe something from foo fighters' official music video? that's... not really a bg, anyway we got one already but thanks for the suggestion :)
@Shiratoi : I did re-add the slidertic 2, cuz the purpose of that was hitsounding some slidertics, without that im missing some hitsounds so rip

Thanks for your usefull mod ♥
Updated~
HomieLove
Hey, here's my part of the M4M.
Note: I mod according to my own opinion / bias, so sorry if it isn't good.

how do i mod
blue = comment
black = actual modding / suggestion

[Infected Oni]

General:

do you even bookmark bro

The .osu file has a slider velocity of 1.40000000596046. Change it to 1.4.

Lower the volume on the red line to 50%, any inputs are super loud during the intro.

OD 7 is pretty high considering the bpm. OD 6.5 would be better imo, note locking still won't be much of an issue and it's a bit easier to get accuracy on.

Lower the HP down to 4.5 too, since the streams are pretty hard (imo) and it's a marathon.

Actual modding:

The map looks overall well mapped to me, I'm afraid I can't find many points.

00:46:679 (35,36) - delete either 35 or both since the 1/4 stop on 00:46:593 (34)

01:08:490 (199) - change to don to make it flow and sound better, especially if you take the following suggestion into consideration.

01:08:835 (202) - change to kat, to follow both drumset and vocal pitch (which you followed to some point?).

01:23:317 (316,317,318,319,320,321,322) and 01:28:835 (359,360,361,362,363,364,365) - I saw you adding a kat with each 7-plet from 01:12:283 (228,229,230,231,232,233,234) - (ddkdddk) over 01:15:042 (249,250,251,252,253,254,255) - (ddkkddk) to 01:17:800 (271,272,273,274,275,276,27) - (dkkkddk). I think it looks better to swap the 7-plets from mentioned timestamps for the same effect.

01:37:800 (7,8,9) - ctrl+g to follow the music better.

01:49:007 (91,92,93,94,95) - sounds better as kkddk imo.

02:11:076 (85,86,87) - ^, the current pattern is weird to me.

03:03:490 (359,360,361,362,363) - same as 01:49:007 (91,92,93,94,95)

03:25:559 (73,74,75,76,77) - same as 02:11:076 (85,86,87)

I won't mod the stream part since I can't play it and it sounds reasonable enough.

05:06:938 (320,321,322,323,324) - same as before

06:25:042 (117) - delete? it breaks up the pattern from before and it doesn't need to be mapped imo cause the strong sound is on 06:25:214 (118) .

Alright that's about it.
I can't find any major issues here, the map's structure is overall clean. You don't need to give kds and mod my map in return if it wasn't helpful.
Good luck with ranking this!
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Greenshell wrote:

Hey, here's my part of the M4M.
Note: I mod according to my own opinion / bias, so sorry if it isn't good.

how do i mod
blue = comment
black = actual modding / suggestion

[Infected Oni]

General:

do you even bookmark bro This help me navigate around the map

The .osu file has a slider velocity of 1.40000000596046. Change it to 1.4. Fixed

Lower the volume on the red line to 50%, any inputs are super loud during the intro. Changed

OD 7 is pretty high considering the bpm. OD 6.5 would be better imo, note locking still won't be much of an issue and it's a bit easier to get accuracy on. This has a simple rhythm because it is a DnB since it's easy to follow, therefore I don't think there's much difference in change it to 6.5

Lower the HP down to 4.5 too, since the streams are pretty hard (imo) and it's a marathon. The same as above, I don't think there much difference, also the streams isn't so complicated

Actual modding:

The map looks overall well mapped to me, I'm afraid I can't find many points. No matter, you've help me :D

00:46:679 (35,36) - delete either 35 or both since the 1/4 stop on 00:46:593 (34) Fixed

01:08:490 (199) - change to don to make it flow and sound better, especially if you take the following suggestion into consideration. Changed

01:08:835 (202) - change to kat, to follow both drumset and vocal pitch (which you followed to some point?). I don't like the sound, also I think it's should be a bit hard because is kkk K (doble keys)

01:23:317 (316,317,318,319,320,321,322) and 01:28:835 (359,360,361,362,363,364,365) - I saw you adding a kat with each 7-plet from 01:12:283 (228,229,230,231,232,233,234) - (ddkdddk) over 01:15:042 (249,250,251,252,253,254,255) - (ddkkddk) to 01:17:800 (271,272,273,274,275,276,27) - (dkkkddk). I think it looks better to swap the 7-plets from mentioned timestamps for the same effect. Ok, applied

01:37:800 (7,8,9) - ctrl+g to follow the music better. I think no, don't like the sound

01:49:007 (91,92,93,94,95) - sounds better as kkddk imo. The tone is lower to comparation with 01:45:042 - . So add kat here is inconsistent imo. I keep for now

02:11:076 (85,86,87) - ^, the current pattern is weird to me. Mmm, no for now

03:03:490 (359,360,361,362,363) - same as 01:49:007 (91,92,93,94,95) Same reason ^

03:25:559 (73,74,75,76,77) - same as 02:11:076 (85,86,87) Same reason ^

I won't mod the stream part since I can't play it and it sounds reasonable enough. No matter :D

05:06:938 (320,321,322,323,324) - same as before Same ^

06:25:042 (117) - delete? it breaks up the pattern from before and it doesn't need to be mapped imo cause the strong sound is on 06:25:214 (118) . You're right, deleted

Alright that's about it.
I can't find any major issues here, the map's structure is overall clean. You don't need to give kds and mod my map in return if it wasn't helpful.
Good luck with ranking this!
Thanks so much for mod, I'll mod your map in these days. I'm very lazy, so sorry if I take much time :?

-Applied some changes in Lince's Deceived
Beatmap updated~
Cerulean Veyron
Queue

[- - Lince's Deceived - -]
  1. - Since most objects in this difficulty are heavily distance snapping based (specifically the streams I guess), and the note density in sections from a verse to chorus seems pretty much high and exaggerate in overall view. So, in a maximum approach rate set of 9.5 in this difficulty should be the best in value of the readability and gameplay.
  2. 00:35:559 (1) - This slider suffices the screen display in gameplay and editor mode. Kinda near off-screen, or close to touching the edge of the players' monitor screen but it's bared to look through it. So it's a subjective issue, you can move it a little higher if you think it would be that much of a problem. I don't really mind~ It's up to you.
  3. 00:49:352 (9) - To be honest, the slider end of this one probably doesn't follow something on the blue tick on where it's currently landed on, but in fact there's literally no beat over that tick. Just to not ruin the structure or a little bit of patterning, maybe shortening the length of this slider and end it on the red tick 00:49:524 - would follow best in rhythm of the song track.
  4. 01:36:593 (1,2,3,4) - Well, I kinda don't understand why the combos around this part is four circles while the next notes are like, new combo each three notes. The background drum sounds here is slightly similar to 01:37:973 (1,2,3,1) -, and added a new combo because of the upcoming slider velocity change. But why not the same thing here?
  5. 02:36:593 - 02:39:352 - These two downbeats here are worth clicking on tick, rather than mainstreaming the whole vocal layer overtime. Maybe you could turn the rhythm composition here onto something like... circle + slider or slider + circle perhaps. This is to vary greater rhythms that could really follow the music much more correct, and probably stress the good beats too.
  6. 03:01:421 (1,2) - 03:12:283 (3,4,5,6) - Alright, there's a huge difference here in these two parts mentioned. Both of the song track, vocals, instruments' density sounds nearly the same without a slight of change on track. But why differing the intensity on both of these two patterns? There's one that has a big jump from a slider to slider, and the other has a regular distance spacing and a change of rhythm... pretty much huge in comparison. You probably have many ways of creating a little bit of consistency to keep it's base going up. Likely resembling the rhythm, extend distance spacing, etc. If you don't mind consistent stuffs, then you can try out something different if you want to keep your current structure ;p
  7. 03:43:490 (1) - Why is this a prolonged repeatable sliderkick? You've actually done better on the previous slider streams, so why not doing the same thing here? The chords seem to slightly change its pitch and intensity, so it's likely similar to 03:41:421 (1,2) - by the sound of it. It's alright, it won't really hurt this kind of some deathstreaming you're trying to do though. You can at least try something like this sample, if you'd like to keep up the flow.
  8. 03:48:662 (1) - The ride sound here doesn't really sound like a snap division of 1/12. Hearing this particular part more than thrice in-depth, It's more closely to 1/8 if heard on a slower playback rate. So it should be that if you're probably getting this a bit too far for the right rhythm snapping.
  9. 04:52:455 (1) - This is exactly the same issue as the previous sliderkick repeating 03:43:490 (1) - but this one's like, the doubled part of the previous slider. So it's more likely to reduce the current sliders' length until behind the downbeat on 04:53:059 -, and add another sliderkick repeat on 04:53:145 -.
  10. 05:25:559 (1,2) - Same issue here too, but with mentioning the circle (2). The distance spacing in-between the slider and circle, which is the another start of stream, is pretty far in my point of view. So either doing the suggested option, or enclose the two notes a little more to avoid awkward stream jumps.
  11. 06:10:386 (3) - 06:21:421 (2) - The start of this sliderkick repeat is okay as the hi-hat snapping in the background music seems nearly correct, yeah. But until the other white tick kicks in, the hi-hat sound changes onto 1/4 (or maybe 1/6, dunno) as it varied itself until the downbeat. So with these two sliders, it should probably be reduced and redo the next tick for this. A little help if you have trouble in finding the right rhythm for this part, if you are going to apply of course.

nice bg, im rite der!! yooo!!! swingin' myy tokyo sword!!!!
Ehh.. Sorry, just pretending...

I'm amazed! This is an outstanding map overall~ Seems good to play too. Best of luck!
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

Queue

[- - Lince's Deceived - -]
  1. - Since most objects in this difficulty are heavily distance snapping based (specifically the streams I guess), and the note density in sections from a verse to chorus seems pretty much high and exaggerate in overall view. So, in a maximum approach rate set of 9.5 in this difficulty should be the best in value of the readability and gameplay. Okie
  2. 00:35:559 (1) - This slider suffices the screen display in gameplay and editor mode. Kinda near off-screen, or close to touching the edge of the players' monitor screen but it's bared to look through it. So it's a subjective issue, you can move it a little higher if you think it would be that much of a problem. I don't really mind~ It's up to you. i moved it a bit up
  3. 00:49:352 (9) - To be honest, the slider end of this one probably doesn't follow something on the blue tick on where it's currently landed on, but in fact there's literally no beat over that tick. Just to not ruin the structure or a little bit of patterning, maybe shortening the length of this slider and end it on the red tick 00:49:524 - would follow best in rhythm of the song track. changed it into slider circle slider
  4. 01:36:593 (1,2,3,4) - Well, I kinda don't understand why the combos around this part is four circles while the next notes are like, new combo each three notes. The background drum sounds here is slightly similar to 01:37:973 (1,2,3,1) -, and added a new combo because of the upcoming slider velocity change. But why not the same thing here? it has followpoint purposes but since it isnt really relevant in game i changed it
  5. 02:36:593 - 02:39:352 - These two downbeats here are worth clicking on tick, rather than mainstreaming the whole vocal layer overtime. Maybe you could turn the rhythm composition here onto something like... circle + slider or slider + circle perhaps. This is to vary greater rhythms that could really follow the music much more correct, and probably stress the good beats too. I really does prefer following vocals, also these downbeats aren't even noticeable at all ingame
  6. 03:01:421 (1,2) - 03:12:283 (3,4,5,6) - Alright, there's a huge difference here in these two parts mentioned. Both of the song track, vocals, instruments' density sounds nearly the same without a slight of change on track. But why differing the intensity on both of these two patterns? There's one that has a big jump from a slider to slider, and the other has a regular distance spacing and a change of rhythm... pretty much huge in comparison. You probably have many ways of creating a little bit of consistency to keep it's base going up. Likely resembling the rhythm, extend distance spacing, etc. If you don't mind consistent stuffs, then you can try out something different if you want to keep your current structure ;p I dont really think so, i think that it represents the pattern i want correctly, also its not a big problem of intensity imo
  7. 03:43:490 (1) - Why is this a prolonged repeatable sliderkick? You've actually done better on the previous slider streams, so why not doing the same thing here? The chords seem to slightly change its pitch and intensity, so it's likely similar to 03:41:421 (1,2) - by the sound of it. It's alright, it won't really hurt this kind of some deathstreaming you're trying to do though. You can at least try something like this sample, if you'd like to keep up the flow. There we go, again XD, cmon how is it possible that nobody can hear that long sound in the background of the music LOL, also i kept consistency everytime it happened in every stream, its not random :(
  8. 03:48:662 (1) - The ride sound here doesn't really sound like a snap division of 1/12. Hearing this particular part more than thrice in-depth, It's more closely to 1/8 if heard on a slower playback rate. So it should be that if you're probably getting this a bit too far for the right rhythm snapping. yah true, changed it into 1/8
  9. 04:52:455 (1) - This is exactly the same issue as the previous sliderkick repeating 03:43:490 (1) - but this one's like, the doubled part of the previous slider. So it's more likely to reduce the current sliders' length until behind the downbeat on 04:53:059 -, and add another sliderkick repeat on 04:53:145 -. i dont see why, actually that first long slider is suposed to represent a 16 notes stream (and it does it correctly)i dont really want to make it less long tbh
  10. 05:25:559 (1,2) - Same issue here too, but with mentioning the circle (2). The distance spacing in-between the slider and circle, which is the another start of stream, is pretty far in my point of view. So either doing the suggested option, or enclose the two notes a little more to avoid awkward stream jumps. the spacing between 1 and 2 isnt that much LOL, also for the slider i have the same answer from before...
  11. 06:10:386 (3) - 06:21:421 (2) - The start of this sliderkick repeat is okay as the hi-hat snapping in the background music seems nearly correct, yeah. But until the other white tick kicks in, the hi-hat sound changes onto 1/4 (or maybe 1/6, dunno) as it varied itself until the downbeat. So with these two sliders, it should probably be reduced and redo the next tick for this. A little help if you have trouble in finding the right rhythm for this part, if you are going to apply of course.I dont really like it sorry xD, also i fixed something that was wrong there, I moved the green line that was 06:11:248 - here, to 06:11:076 - here (that green line was a volume change that was really important to represent that downbeat sound)

nice bg (woah thanks i had a bad time searching one), im rite der!! yooo!!! swingin' myy tokyo sword!!!! yooo!!!
Ehh.. Sorry, just pretending... I... I fucking laughed with this omg whats wrong with me

I'm amazed! This is an outstanding map overall~ Seems good to play too. Best of luck! Ill never forget the first time you modded a map from mine, it was a real shitty map, im glad that you're amazed by this... I really feel like your mods are perfect, they always explains everything as comparated with most of the mods I get, thanks for the mod and good luck to you as well!

I had a bad time answering this mod tbh, fucking laptop
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Yoshimaro
hi im modder c:

woops mb late sry here take my energy

[lince is my energy tbh]
  1. 00:23:835 - lonely beat :c
  2. so im sure you're aware of it but for about the first minute is nothing but counter clockwise flow and then 01:12:110 - this happens and finally the flow gets a switch up, which i personally dislike over used rotational flow even if its broken up into triangles (its not exactly bad to play), but i feel like there's no reason the flow change should occur here specifically... like imo 01:09:007 - here would have been a better place for a switch up considering its the largest beat and start of a new measure and it marks the start of different effects on vocals and etc etc.
  3. 03:31:766 (1) - following the logic of the rest of this specific stream, shouldn't there be a sharper flow change here too? since the other parts are emphasized with directional change, you could just give this note a little bit of spacing, it doesn't have to be too much just enough to be impactful during play
    EDIT: yeah like right here you did it nicely 03:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
    EDIT#2: and 05:24:179 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

there are other things i'd say but they're pretty insignificant tbh, and for the most part i think this is structured nicely. just really tho i recommend using more flow changes during that first minute since it gets really noticeable after like 20 combos of it lmao, anyway cool stuff sorry this is short haha, i had a pretty good run and then sneezed right here 06:10:386 (3) - o well
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

hi im modder c:

woops mb late sry here take my energy cmon yoshi i love you u know

[lince is my energy tbh]
  1. 00:23:835 - lonely beat :c unlike here: 00:31:421 (2) - , i was following the background sounds and not the vocals at all, i kinda focused on both but not on that part, cuz the bg sounds were a lot more notable than the other similar parts
  2. so im sure you're aware of it but for about the first minute is nothing but counter clockwise flow and then 01:12:110 - this happens and finally the flow gets a switch up, which i personally dislike over used rotational flow even if its broken up into triangles (its not exactly bad to play), but i feel like there's no reason the flow change should occur here specifically... like imo 01:09:007 - here would have been a better place for a switch up considering its the largest beat and start of a new measure and it marks the start of different effects on vocals and etc etc. its not a big problem tho, i kinda like it,
    but i will change if this turns into an actual problem
  3. 03:31:766 (1) - following the logic of the rest of this specific stream, shouldn't there be a sharper flow change here too? since the other parts are emphasized with directional change, you could just give this note a little bit of spacing, it doesn't have to be too much just enough to be impactful during play well, actually i wanted to move the stream down to have more space at the time of doing the next long stream, and i also think that this is 03:31:679 (4,1) - kinda noticeable while playing
    EDIT: yeah like right here you did it nicely 03:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
    EDIT#2: and 05:24:179 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

there are other things i'd say but they're pretty insignificant tbh, and for the most part i think this is structured nicely. just really tho i recommend using more flow changes during that first minute since it gets really noticeable after like 20 combos of it lmao, anyway cool stuff sorry this is short haha, i had a pretty good run and then sneezed right here 06:10:386 (3) - o well i kiinda fixed some green lines on these sliders xD.. also rip ur run :(
even if it wasnt helpfull at all thanks uwu ♥
Updated~
iYiyo

From my Q

what happened with Lince?


  • [General]
  1. Desactiva widescreen supp y epilepsy warning en la diff de std

    [Lince's Deceived]
  2. 00:32:110 - Creo que podrías agregar un círculo acá ya que existe un beat en la música ahí. Tbh diría que es más fuerte ese sonido que 00:31:421 -
  3. 00:38:662 - ^
  4. 00:41:076 (1) - Personalmente haría que el slider empezara en el downbeat, agregando un circle 00:41:076 - acá.
  5. 01:31:076 (1,1,1,1) - Quedaría más épico si agrandas bastante más el DS acá. El gap es de 2/1 por lo que no pasaría aparte de hacer que quede todo mejor~
  6. 01:37:973 (1,2) - Estaría bueno que también stackearas estas 2 notas al igual como lo hiciste con 01:36:593 (1,2) -. Arruinaría un poco el pattern actual, pero podrías tratar de probar algo un poco distinto para poder hacerlo o:
  7. 01:44:696 (2,1,2) - Encuentro que esta transición no fluye bien, como que acota el espacio demasiado para el gran spacing que llevas haciendo antes. (01:43:835 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) Te sugiero hacer ctrl+g a 01:44:869 (1,2,3) -
  8. 02:16:766 (2,1) - Encuentro que reducir el DS de esta manera en una parte tan intensa como es esta no queda muy bien. Actualmente usas más spacing 02:13:490 (7,8) - acá. Recomiendo aumentar un poco más los jumps, al fin y al cabo es una diff de 5.8* y estás en el kiai. (algo como 02:22:110 - : ok_hand :)
  9. 02:41:076 - Por qué no agregar un slider reverse acá para soportar ese sonido? same as 02:30:042 (2) -
  10. 03:49:697 (1,2) - Esos sliders encuentro que no pegan en lo absoluto... Después de tanto "jump" entre sliders pones esos y 03:50:042 (3,4) - los cuales son muy distintos al resto de sliders que usas en toda esta sección. Encuentro que no es necesario enfatizar con un pattern tan único D: (Espero haberme explicado bien porque es la parte que más me molestó cuando la jugué :/)
  11. 03:52:455 (1,2) - hitsounds?
  12. 04:13:490 (2) - Mover este de manera que quede similar en spacing a 04:16:248 (2,3,1) - ?
  13. 04:27:628 (1,1) - Por qué esos claps únicamente en esos 2? Me refiero a que no es que la canción los soporte del todo. Aún así encuentro que no quedan mal, pero de conservarlos, podrías seguir utilizandolos para 04:30:386 (1) - etc, tener esos 2 solos se siente algo vacío.
  14. 04:57:197 (5) - Add clap? Se siente raro ese triple con los hitsounds actuales.
  15. 05:08:317 (1,2) - Se ve/juega raro que estos tengan menor distancia que 05:07:111 (4,5) - . Podrías stackearlos?
  16. 05:10:214 (1) - Podrías aprovechar de hacerlo paralelo con respecto al stream que tiene pegado, y aparte pegarlo más a la derecha de la grilla? Actualmente el stream y el slider se ve muy pegados.
  17. 05:31:766 (1,2,3,4) - Lo mismo que los sliders anteriores please D:
  18. 05:34:524 (1,2) - hitsounds?

Me gustó la diff. Espero verla ranked pronto

Suerte con el Set! o/
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

iYiyo wrote:

RIP
From my Q

what happened with Lince? well, i got banned xd for multiaccounting, i feel really bad about it so im just waiting another 6 months to appeal again


  • [General]
  1. Desactiva widescreen supp y epilepsy warning en la diff de std teniamos planeado poner un SB pero por ahora lo saco

    [Lince's Deceived]
  2. 00:32:110 - Creo que podrías agregar un círculo acá ya que existe un beat en la música ahí. Tbh diría que es más fuerte ese sonido que 00:31:421 - suena bien
  3. 00:38:662 - ^ en este caso el sonido no es tan alto asi que no creo que sea necesario
  4. 00:41:076 (1) - Personalmente haría que el slider empezara en el downbeat, agregando un circle 00:41:076 - acá. Me gusta tu idea,
    pero pienso que la mia esta bastante bien asi que la voy a dejar
  5. 01:31:076 (1,1,1,1) - Quedaría más épico si agrandas bastante más el DS acá. El gap es de 2/1 por lo que no pasaría aparte de hacer que quede todo mejor~ oki, lo hice un square
  6. 01:37:973 (1,2) - Estaría bueno que también stackearas estas 2 notas al igual como lo hiciste con 01:36:593 (1,2) -. Arruinaría un poco el pattern actual, pero podrías tratar de probar algo un poco distinto para poder hacerlo o: en realidad, no arruinó nada (gracias ;w;) en cambio se ve mucho mejor, tambien hice un par de cambios en los NC ahi
  7. 01:44:696 (2,1,2) - Encuentro que esta transición no fluye bien, como que acota el espacio demasiado para el gran spacing que llevas haciendo antes. (01:43:835 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) Te sugiero hacer ctrl+g a 01:44:869 (1,2,3) - le hice Ctrl+G aunque no me termina de convencer, cualquier cosa lo cambio pero por ahora queda asi
  8. 02:16:766 (2,1) - Encuentro que reducir el DS de esta manera en una parte tan intensa como es esta no queda muy bien. Actualmente usas más spacing 02:13:490 (7,8) - acá. Recomiendo aumentar un poco más los jumps, al fin y al cabo es una diff de 5.8* y estás en el kiai. (algo como 02:22:110 - : ok_hand :) es que realmente pienso que esta bien el spacing ahi, si lo hago mas grande seria un poco excesivo para jump laterales como esos
  9. 02:41:076 - Por qué no agregar un slider reverse acá para soportar ese sonido? same as 02:30:042 (2) - Cuando lo mapee, lo pense,
    pero preferi mantener ese aspecto calmado como lo actuan las vocales
  10. 03:49:697 (1,2) - Esos sliders encuentro que no pegan en lo absoluto... Después de tanto "jump" entre sliders pones esos y 03:50:042 (3,4) - los cuales son muy distintos al resto de sliders que usas en toda esta sección. Encuentro que no es necesario enfatizar con un pattern tan único D: (Espero haberme explicado bien porque es la parte que más me molestó cuando la jugué :/) Los hice con el proposito de ser molestos a decir verdad, estaba un poco frustrado a la hora de mapear xD la verdad no se me ocurre que poner ahi que no sean streams ni reverse sliders, a menos que alguien me tire una idea mejor los dejare asi (en caso contrario cambiare ambos) de paso, te explicaste bien ;)
  11. 03:52:455 (1,2) - hitsounds? fixed both (las partes similares)
  12. 04:13:490 (2) - Mover este de manera que quede similar en spacing a 04:16:248 (2,3,1) - ? 04:13:835 (1) - que tal si muevo este en cambio? suena mas logico
  13. 04:27:628 (1,1) - Por qué esos claps únicamente en esos 2? Me refiero a que no es que la canción los soporte del todo. Aún así encuentro que no quedan mal, pero de conservarlos, podrías seguir utilizandolos para 04:30:386 (1) - etc, tener esos 2 solos se siente algo vacío. Ciertamente, ni yo se porque RLC los hizo asi, anyway, les añadi sus respectivos claps a las partes que le siguen
  14. 04:57:197 (5) - Add clap? Se siente raro ese triple con los hitsounds actuales. le añadi a ese y al circle 4
  15. 05:08:317 (1,2) - Se ve/juega raro que estos tengan menor distancia que 05:07:111 (4,5) - . Podrías stackearlos? Stackeado (hize algunos cambios mas a parte del stack, movi el slider vertical un pixel a la derecha ya que no era 100% recto con respecto a los 2 circles que le seguian)
  16. 05:10:214 (1) - Podrías aprovechar de hacerlo paralelo con respecto al stream que tiene pegado, y aparte pegarlo más a la derecha de la grilla? Actualmente el stream y el slider se ve muy pegados. lo movi un poco a la derecha, y con respecto a el paralelismo, no queria hacer un slider totalmente recto x( lo cambie un poco para que se asimile el maximo posiblle
  17. 05:31:766 (1,2,3,4) - Lo mismo que los sliders anteriores please D:
  18. 05:34:524 (1,2) - hitsounds?

Me gustó la diff. Espero verla ranked pronto woah gracias, la verdad es que me gustaria agregarte en discord (si es que algun dia ves esta respuesta) si es que no es mucha molestia, pareces una persona razonable :)

Suerte con el Set! o/ gracias o/
Muchas gracias por el mod :D
Muchas gracias por revisar el mapa Yiyo, realmente admiro cómo mapeas :D
Updated~
iYiyo

Lince Cosmico wrote:

iYiyo wrote:

Me gustó la diff. Espero verla ranked pronto woah gracias, la verdad es que me gustaria agregarte en discord (si es que algun dia ves esta respuesta) si es que no es mucha molestia, pareces una persona razonable :) Of course you can ;)

Suerte con el Set! o/ gracias o/
Muchas gracias por el mod :D
Muchas gracias por revisar el mapa Yiyo, realmente admiro cómo mapeas :D Guau, gracias!
Updated~
JessiChan
Hola Gaston c:

Infected Oni


  1. Prueba: 00:30:731 (17) - Borrar esa nota y agregar una aca: 00:32:455 - Preferiblemente azul
  2. 01:00:559 (139) - Rojo, si quieres.
  3. 01:29:524 (359,360) - ctrl + g
  4. Cambia a azul: 01:49:524 (98) - Y rojo: 01:49:869 (101) -
  5. 04:17:973 - Mmm no se, si entiendo qué quisiste mapear allí, pero no es algo que sobre salga mucho, creo que lo mejor es que reemplaces eso por lo que ya vienes mapeando antes, que es suave como este pedazo.
  6. 05:07:800 (330) - Podría ser azul

    Del resto me parece excelente mapa, suerte, espero lo rankees pronto. :)
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

JessiChan wrote:

Hola Gaston c: Holi

Infected Oni


  1. Prueba: 00:30:731 (17) - Borrar esa nota y agregar una aca: 00:32:455 - Preferiblemente azul En esta parte más que nada sigo la vocal, cambié 00:31:076 (18) - a don porque el tono es más bajo a comparación de 00:42:110 (18) -
  2. 01:00:559 (139) - Rojo, si quieres. Lo pensaba hace mucho tiempo cambiarlo y se me olvidaba xD
  3. 01:29:524 (359,360) - ctrl + g Ok
  4. Cambia a azul: 01:49:524 (98) - Y rojo: 01:49:869 (101) - Aplicado
  5. 04:17:973 - Mmm no se, si entiendo qué quisiste mapear allí, pero no es algo que sobre salga mucho, creo que lo mejor es que reemplaces eso por lo que ya vienes mapeando antes, que es suave como este pedazo. Pensaba en quitarlo ya que lo volvía un poco inconsistente
  6. 05:07:800 (330) - Podría ser azul

    Del resto me parece excelente mapa, suerte, espero lo rankees pronto. :) Espero lo mismo!
Muchas gracias por tu mod y la estrella <3
Beatmap updated~
timemon
Helloooo from mod queue

Lince's Deceived


The map is amazing and fun. I love it. Definitely a good HR map.

00:50:904 (2) - There is a clap on the red tick. Is this a mistake? I think it should be on the white tick
01:14:352 (10,11,1) - I hear no sound on the blue tick. Maybe change this to regular 1/2 notes?
04:53:835 (1,1,1) - I think the timing between each sliders here are very punishing. players can easily break combos here. I suggest change it to 1/4 in gap instead of 1/8 like the 1/8 slider after the 3
04:57:110 (4,5,6) - I hear no sound on the blue tick. Maybe change this to regular 1/2 notes?
05:06:938 (3,4) - on other 2 kiai this note is a triplet. I suggest you change this one to a triplet as well to make it consistent throughout the song.

Good luck with your maps and if you'd be so kind, could you comment on my modding as well.
Amazing map :)
direday
Hello! Hoping for M4M as a fellow Infected Mushroom mapper. If not, thats okay too.

Deceived
  1. I am confused a bit about what sounds you map during intro part. If you map vocals then 00:23:835 must be mapped and if you map that distorted synth then 00:25:904 (2) 00:22:110 (1) - etc - shouldn't exist at all. My bet is on former. I'd put circle here 00:42:110 aswell to both improve the rythm and reflect that faint "a" pitch change in "agga-a-ain".
  2. 01:36:593 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - I failed to see the logic about emphasizing here. 01:37:628 (3) - and 01:36:938 (3,2,3,2) - those are the only distinct sounds worth emphasizing yet there are no change in spacing or angles there.
  3. I am pretty sure I'm not the first one to tell you this, but 01:45:559 (2,3) - here really should be a tripple. And don't defend your choice by saying "I follow the lyrics". If that was the case 01:44:696 (2) - that would have been skipped.
  4. 01:56:421 (1,2,3) - you even have tripple here so uhmm ^^^^^
  5. 01:44:696 (2) - 01:55:731 (2) - and other "one" in the song: I really suggest you to somehow reflect the absence of note in voice here somehow. Judging by the theme of your map you'd want to avoid sliders here for dem juicy pp so you can stack 01:44:696 (2) - under 01:44:524 (1) - or something along the lines of reducing ds. Those^ apply for the whole map.
  6. 02:41:162 (3) - why skipping those 1/4 sounds? You mapped them 02:34:266 (4,5,6) - here and those are much more quiet. 02:45:300 (3) - those Can be skipped I guess for the sake of reflecting chill part of the song but mapping them anyway and just giving them low SD could work aswell.
  7. 03:00:042 (2,3) - tripple here
  8. 03:32:455 (1) - Imo its very confusing that a repeating slider that looks just like the 4 before it is twice as long. The are no way to tell the length of such slider so by making him look the same you practically guarantee that the player will misread it on his 1st play.
  9. 03:37:197 (2) - Imo this one is bad. You are already skipping every blue tick just before that and this particular sound is not that much different to have only it mapped. I'd just stick to 1/2 here.
  10. 03:43:490 (1) - and probably 2-4 others are confusing
  11. 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - I like those sliders but I think they disrupt the flow too much while nothing really changes in music. Basically player goes from quick motion to full stop twice.
  12. 04:22:110 (1,2,3,4) - ^ basicaly 04:22:110 (1,2,3,4) - and 04:23:490 (1,2,3,4) - sound relatively the same but play completely differently
  13. 05:04:179 (2,3) - tripple
  14. 05:15:214 (2,3) - ^
  15. 05:17:283 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I would strongly suggest to remake those into sliders: vocals are much more noticable here and they are going slower than the metronome rythm so it will be very easy for player to press circles later than needed.
  16. 05:31:766 (1,2,3,4) - flow
  17. During the outro, I'd emphasize the strong snares like 05:42:800 (4) - and 05:44:179 (3) - much more given you use hitsounds that are very loud for them.
  18. 05:45:559 (3) - you've missed clap here.

Hope that helped! Good luck. Osu needs much more Infected Mushrooms maps so I'm supporting any decent IM maps I've found.
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

direday wrote:

Hello! Hoping for M4M as a fellow Infected Mushroom mapper. If not, thats okay too. Ill mod it but i will have to ask a friend to submit the mod for me because im banned x(

Deceived
  1. I am confused a bit about what sounds you map during intro part. If you map vocals then 00:23:835 must be mapped and if you map that distorted synth then 00:25:904 (2) 00:22:110 (1) - etc - shouldn't exist at all. My bet is on former. I'd put circle here 00:42:110 aswell to both improve the rythm and reflect that faint "a" pitch change in "agga-a-ain". actually im not "following vocals" at all, just hear at the bg sound (that is not vocal) likee 00:39:352 (2,3) - here or 00:22:800 (2) - here
  2. 01:36:593 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - I failed to see the logic about emphasizing here. 01:37:628 (3) - and 01:36:938 (3,2,3,2) - those are the only distinct sounds worth emphasizing yet there are no change in spacing or angles there. wtf LMAAO, i think thaat its 100% well emphasized,
    at least thats how i see it
  3. I am pretty sure I'm not the first one to tell you this, but 01:45:559 (2,3) - here really should be a tripple. And don't defend your choice by saying "I follow the lyrics". If that was the case 01:44:696 (2) - that would have been skipped. Yeah you're not the first one, but i wanted to do different things through these 3 similar parts (in the whole map), but yea it feels a bit inconsistent, ill keep it for now tbh cuz i think my idea is not wrong at all, but ill consider changing it in the future
  4. 01:56:421 (1,2,3) - you even have tripple here so uhmm ^^^^^ ikr uwu
  5. 01:44:696 (2) - 01:55:731 (2) - and other "one" in the song: I really suggest you to somehow reflect the absence of note in voice here somehow. Judging by the theme of your map you'd want to avoid sliders here for dem juicy pp so you can stack 01:44:696 (2) - under 01:44:524 (1) - or something along the lines of reducing ds. Those^ apply for the whole map. 01:44:696 (2,1) - I actually put more spacing here and 01:55:731 (2,1) - here to reflect the voice
  6. 02:41:162 (3) - why skipping those 1/4 sounds? You mapped them 02:34:266 (4,5,6) - here and those are much more quiet. 02:45:300 (3) - those Can be skipped I guess for the sake of reflecting chill part of the song but mapping them anyway and just giving them low SD could work aswell. You're right, i skipped them to keep the map chill (you can see it in past mods), i dont want any sign of intensity there
  7. 03:00:042 (2,3) - tripple here
  8. 03:32:455 (1) - Imo its very confusing that a repeating slider that looks just like the 4 before it is twice as long. The are no way to tell the length of such slider so by making him look the same you practically guarantee that the player will misread it on his 1st play. I already tested that with some players, 1 of 6 confused there, the others got fc on that stream (even one of these /Loli_Silica/ fc'ed the map)
  9. 03:37:197 (2) - Imo this one is bad. You are already skipping every blue tick just before that and this particular sound is not that much different to have only it mapped. I'd just stick to 1/2 here. I wanted to add intensity through emphasis there, i dont think its wrong at all
  10. 03:43:490 (1) - and probably 2-4 others are confusing =w=
  11. 03:49:697 (1,2,3,4) - I like those sliders but I think they disrupt the flow too much while nothing really changes in music. Basically player goes from quick motion to full stop twice. The principal idea was to add more intensity each every part (03:15:904 - first / 03:26:938 - second / 03:37:973 - third / 03:49:007 - fourth)
  12. 04:22:110 (1,2,3,4) - ^ basicaly 04:22:110 (1,2,3,4) - and 04:23:490 (1,2,3,4) - sound relatively the same but play completely differentlyfixed this one, made both back and forth
  13. 05:04:179 (2,3) - tripple
  14. 05:15:214 (2,3) - ^
  15. 05:17:283 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I would strongly suggest to remake those into sliders: vocals are much more noticable here and they are going slower than the metronome rythm so it will be very easy for player to press circles later than needed. k done
  16. 05:31:766 (1,2,3,4) - flow i dont really want back and forths there
  17. During the outro, I'd emphasize the strong snares like 05:42:800 (4) - and 05:44:179 (3) - much more given you use hitsounds that are very loud for them. actually its emphasized enough
  18. 05:45:559 (3) - you've missed clap here. fixed

Hope that helped! Good luck. Osu needs much more Infected Mushrooms maps so I'm supporting any decent IM maps I've found. i think the same :D
Thanks for modding and sorry for this red wall x( , ill try my best modding urs :p

Lince Cosmico wrote:

timemon wrote:

Helloooo from mod queue hallo o/

Lince's Deceived


The map is amazing and fun. I love it. Definitely a good HR map. thanks ♥

00:50:904 (2) - There is a clap on the red tick. Is this a mistake? I think it should be on the white tick lol true, fixed
01:14:352 (10,11,1) - I hear no sound on the blue tick. Maybe change this to regular 1/2 notes? a part of the vocals starts on that blue tic,
anyway i think it emphasizes really good so ill keep iit

04:53:835 (1,1,1) - I think the timing between each sliders here are very punishing. players can easily break combos here. I suggest change it to 1/4 in gap instead of 1/8 like the 1/8 slider after the 3 yeah i removed one of the reverses on the last 3 sliders, now players has more time to move to the next slider :D
04:57:110 (4,5,6) - I hear no sound on the blue tick. Maybe change this to regular 1/2 notes? emphasis reasons
05:06:938 (3,4) - on other 2 kiai this note is a triplet. I suggest you change this one to a triplet as well to make it consistent throughout the song. Done :)

Good luck with your maps and if you'd be so kind, could you comment on my modding as well. actually your base is good, you should try searching errors on timings, map folder, or inconsistencys in general, also you should add focus issues on your mods and it would be a pretty full mod :D
Amazing map :)
Thanks for modding :D
Updated~
Kawashiro
from my Q
Original song is better than this
  1. 00:22:110 (1,2) - Make same beat as 00:33:145 (1,2,3) - . that will express 00:23:145 - this tone changing and 00:23:835 - vocal
  2. 00:49:610 (10) - Overmapping, here is no sound to put circle
  3. 00:52:369 (10) - ^
  4. 00:54:438 (6) - ^
  5. 00:59:955 (6) - ^
  6. 01:03:404 (10) - ^, All of like these part... there is no sound like 01:11:679 - here.
  7. 01:29:093 - put circle, like 01:26:076 (2,3,4,5,6) - here.
  8. I think 01:25:559 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this part have to be same as 01:28:317 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here. of course 01:26:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - here and 01:29:697 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - here too. because these parts has same sound.
  9. 01:37:455 (2,3) - Why you stack? In 01:38:835 (2,1) - here, you didn't
  10. 01:39:955 (4) - Overmapping, here is no sound to put circle
  11. 01:42:714 (3) - ^
  12. 01:50:990 (3) - ^
  13. 02:02:024 (3) - Hmm, Actually its not overmapping but this sound is too weak than 02:02:110 (4,5,6) - these sounds. For express 02:02:110 (4) - this sound, delete it. Like 02:07:628 (3,4,5) - here you did
  14. 02:04:783 (3) - ^
  15. 02:10:300 (4) - ^
  16. 02:13:059 (3) - ^, All of like this circle.
  17. 02:53:145 (7,8) - I don't understand why you stack here. the sounds tension is going up but your stack can't express it. move it to 464 84?
  18. 02:54:438 (4) - Overmapping. here is no sound to put circle
  19. 02:57:197 (3) - ^
  20. 03:05:473 (4) - ^
  21. 03:08:231 (3) - ^
  22. 03:13:145 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - Delete it. like 01:58:662 - here you did. Of course I know there are guitar sounds but I got goose bumps in this blank
  23. 03:26:938 (2) - NC. new sound starts at here.
  24. 03:27:283 (5) - NC
  25. 03:33:145 (2) - NC. new sound
  26. 03:33:490 (6) - NC
  27. 03:34:179 (5) - NC
  28. 03:35:559 (5) - NC
  29. 03:38:317 (5) - NC
  30. 03:39:697 (5) - NC
  31. 03:41:076 (5) - NC
  32. 03:44:179 (2,6) - NC
  33. 03:45:214 (5) - NC
  34. 03:47:283 (5) - NC. wtf your nc cycle is inconsistent. plz unify all NC in 4 bit or 8 bit
  35. 04:58:576 (4) - Overmapping. here is no sound to put circle
  36. 05:01:335 (3) - ^
  37. 05:09:610 (4) - ^
  38. 05:12:369 (3) - ^
  39. 05:24:524 (1,1) - Del NC?
  40. 05:26:248 (2) - NC. new sound starts at here.
Topic Starter
gaston_2199

Lince Cosmico wrote:

Sorry for delay

UnLock- wrote:

from my Q
just saying but the song is the same xd
Original song is better than this
  1. 00:22:110 (1,2) - Make same beat as 00:33:145 (1,2,3) - . that will express 00:23:145 - this tone changing and 00:23:835 - vocal I used different patterns to represent the different intensity, so i wont change
  2. 00:49:610 (10) - Overmapping, here is no sound to put circle ew i slighty hear one, anyway that's for emphasis
  3. 00:52:369 (10) - ^
  4. 00:54:438 (6) - ^
  5. 00:59:955 (6) - ^
  6. 01:03:404 (10) - ^, All of like these part... there is no sound like 01:11:679 - here. zzz
  7. 01:29:093 - put circle, like 01:26:076 (2,3,4,5,6) - here. true fixed
  8. I think 01:25:559 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this part have to be same as 01:28:317 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here. of course 01:26:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - here and 01:29:697 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - here too. because these parts has same sound. oke remapped so now its good :p
  9. 01:37:455 (2,3) - Why you stack? In 01:38:835 (2,1) - here, you didn't because this 01:37:628 (3) - and this 01:39:007 (1) - are two totally different things, and adding spacing at 01:38:835 (2,1) - would give a better impact on this slider 01:39:007 (1) - , also if i stacked it would've been bored lol
  10. 01:39:955 (4) - Overmapping, here is no sound to put circle same than before ill just ignore this xd
  11. 01:42:714 (3) - ^
  12. 01:50:990 (3) - ^
  13. 02:02:024 (3) - Hmm, Actually its not overmapping but this sound is too weak than 02:02:110 (4,5,6) - these sounds. For express 02:02:110 (4) - this sound, delete it. Like 02:07:628 (3,4,5) - here you did yeah but i still dont like the idea of using triples instead the 5 stream, i prefer to keep it tbh
  14. 02:04:783 (3) - ^
  15. 02:10:300 (4) - ^
  16. 02:13:059 (3) - ^, All of like this circle.
  17. 02:53:145 (7,8) - I don't understand why you stack here. the sounds tension is going up but your stack can't express it. move it to 464 84? same than the stack thing from before, I wanted to give a better impact to this one 02:53:490 (1) - , maybe i can add a bit of spacing (removing stack) but i dont really know, if someone mention it ill probably change
  18. 02:54:438 (4) - Overmapping. here is no sound to put circle
  19. 02:57:197 (3) - ^
  20. 03:05:473 (4) - ^
  21. 03:08:231 (3) - ^
  22. 03:13:145 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - Delete it. like 01:58:662 - here you did. Of course I know there are guitar sounds but I got goose bumps in this blank yeaha i had a hard time thinking about if doing it or not, but no, the first "break" is clearly more calm than this one, also the guitar is a lot more noticable here (and its cool too)..also after this part there's the first OP kiiai of the song, where the song gets INTENSE AND INTENSE , so i think that this add a touch of epicness on that part
  23. 03:26:938 (2) - NC. new sound starts at here. missed this one cuz the bookmark, woops
  24. 03:27:283 (5) - NC added
  25. 03:33:145 (2) - NC. new sound i actually i want the followpoint that is there so people wont be that lost while playing that long reverse slider
  26. 03:33:490 (6) - NC Im not following drums tho (this go for most of the things that envolves NC
  27. 03:34:179 (5) - NC
  28. 03:35:559 (5) - NC
  29. 03:38:317 (5) - NC
  30. 03:39:697 (5) - NC
  31. 03:41:076 (5) - NC
  32. 03:44:179 (2,6) - NC
  33. 03:45:214 (5) - NC denied all above of course lol
  34. 03:47:283 (5) - NC. wtf your nc cycle is inconsistent. plz unify all NC in 4 bit or 8 bit dude it isnt, you're just not understanding my point while NC'ing
  35. 04:58:576 (4) - Overmapping. here is no sound to put circle
  36. 05:01:335 (3) - ^
  37. 05:09:610 (4) - ^
  38. 05:12:369 (3) - ^
  39. 05:24:524 (1,1) - Del NC? There's an strong sound , also a curve
  40. 05:26:248 (2) - NC. new sound starts at here. followpoint
too much "nc issues" and "overmapping" x_X but i fixed some inconsistency things so i can only say thanks for the mod :p
Updated~
Sylphi
via modding queue.

[General]
  1. Considering the overall density, OD should be reduced by 1 ~ 2, in my opinion. It's too difficult to play for all.
[Infected Oni]
  1. 00:32:110 - 00:43:317 - There is nothing, and that may makes players feel there should be something. How about adding circles to follow the music? It's probably not fit your mapping style, but I think It's a worthy of considering.
  2. 00:45:990 (28) - I don't know why this one is different with 00:45:645 (24) and 00:46:335 (32). It's same pitch so I think it needs to change it for consistency.
  3. 01:26:938 - You seemed to use k on 01:27:110 (330) for avoiding to come consecutive pattern. but it makes the flow a bit weird. Actually, It's a bit high pitch compared to 01:04:869, but similar melody. so I think, no need to use different rhythm and patterns here.
  4. 01:37:800 (7,8,9) - Hmm... How about using kkd instead? I feel like current pattern sounds weird, make a consistency between 01:36:593 and 01:37:973 break.
  5. 01:58:317 (1,2,3) - I think, It would be better to make 01:58:490 (3,4) triplet instead.
  6. 02:03:662 (30,31,32) - If you mapped it to follow the pitch, it should be k d k. The pitch on 02:03:835 (31) is lower than around.
  7. 02:09:179 (75,76,77) - 02:20:214 (165,166,167) - Same as above.
  8. 02:27:973 (200) - How about using d? It seem to be similar sound as 02:25:214.
  9. 02:48:317 ~ 02:52:283 - It seem to overuse k compared to overall feeling, and it makes the feeling weird resultantly.
  10. 02:52:973 (288,289) - k?
  11. 02:53:576 (293,294) - I think, It's not bad idea to make a little break here for emphasizing the start of kiai time.
  12. 03:24:179 (65) - d for consistency.
  13. 03:31:507 (54,55) - Swap these?
  14. 03:37:973 (129) - 03:49:007 (256) - It's also similar thing as 03:26:938, the start of one part. but this note is different from it. I think, it needs to standardize the pattern about those same feeling.
  15. 04:22:110 - Considering patterns on 04:33:145, It would be balanced to use "o o ooo" pattern instead of "ooo o o".
  16. 04:56:593 (229,230,231,232,233) - I think, ddddk would be more fit the music.
  17. 05:30:214 (75,76,77) - 75, 76 is higher pitch than 77. How about using kkd?
Topic Starter
gaston_2199
Sorry for delay :o

Sylphi wrote:

via modding queue.

[General]
  1. Considering the overall density, OD should be reduced by 1 ~ 2, in my opinion. It's too difficult to play for all. For now I keep. I'll wait for another mod . If this is marked maybe I change it
[Infected Oni]
  1. 00:32:110 - 00:43:317 - There is nothing, and that may makes players feel there should be something. How about adding circles to follow the music? It's probably not fit your mapping style, but I think It's a worthy of considering. Added in 00:32:455 - because here 00:32:110 - is nothing noticeable imo
  2. 00:45:990 (28) - I don't know why this one is different with 00:45:645 (24) and 00:46:335 (32). It's same pitch so I think it needs to change it for consistency. I change to kdddkkdddk because 00:45:904 (27,28) - those are high pitch
  3. 01:26:938 - You seemed to use k on 01:27:110 (330) for avoiding to come consecutive pattern. but it makes the flow a bit weird. Actually, It's a bit high pitch compared to 01:04:869, but similar melody. so I think, no need to use different rhythm and patterns here. Yeah, I forgot change this to don
  4. 01:37:800 (7,8,9) - Hmm... How about using kkd instead? I feel like current pattern sounds weird, make a consistency between 01:36:593 and 01:37:973 break. I changed the pattern here
  5. 01:58:317 (1,2,3) - I think, It would be better to make 01:58:490 (3,4) triplet instead. Consistence with 01:50:042 (103,104,105,106) -
  6. 02:03:662 (30,31,32) - If you mapped it to follow the pitch, it should be k d k. The pitch on 02:03:835 (31) is lower than around. I applied other pattern to follow your suggestion
  7. 02:09:179 (75,76,77) - 02:20:214 (165,166,167) - Same as above. Same
  8. 02:27:973 (200) - How about using d? It seem to be similar sound as 02:25:214. Changed
  9. 02:48:317 ~ 02:52:283 - It seem to overuse k compared to overall feeling, and it makes the feeling weird resultantly. I changed this 02:48:835 (257,258,259,260,261) - to dkkkd
  10. 02:52:973 (288,289) - k? Changed
  11. 02:53:576 (293,294) - I think, It's not bad idea to make a little break here for emphasizing the start of kiai time. Not a bad idea, but I feel I need to add more breaks. For now I do not add
  12. 03:24:179 (65) - d for consistency. The sound is weird, for now I keep this
  13. 03:31:507 (54,55) - Swap these? I don't follow this sound 03:27:283 (5,6,7,8,9) -
  14. 03:37:973 (129) - 03:49:007 (256) - It's also similar thing as 03:26:938, the start of one part. but this note is different from it. I think, it needs to standardize the pattern about those same feeling. I don't know, I may have a heard wrong, but I listen the same way
  15. 04:22:110 - Considering patterns on 04:33:145, It would be balanced to use "o o ooo" pattern instead of "ooo o o". You're right, it follow better the vocal, changed
  16. 04:56:593 (229,230,231,232,233) - I think, ddddk would be more fit the music. Changed
  17. 05:30:214 (75,76,77) - 75, 76 is higher pitch than 77. How about using kkd? Yes, changed
Nice mod! Thanks so much :)
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