fhana - RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY · forum

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-03-26T10:04:34+00:00

你怎么把我的combo color改了

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-03-26T10:21:16+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
[Kanna]
00:14:655 (2) - this compared to 00:16:655 (3,4) - Is made very differently even tho song is exactly the same . 00:14:655 (2) - this one is made too easy to how crazy the song is playing here so better change to 1/4 sliders like in the second case music is different here so i made the patterns different (easy -> hard)

Pata-Mon wrote:
[Karen]
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - 这串有点怪，在我来看重音和转折点应该在00:40:433 (2) - 00:39:544 (1) - 这里出现新音轨，00:39:988 (1,2,1) - 这三个音比之前重
00:46:544 (3) - nc，同00:14:211 (1,2,1,2) -
GL

fixed other mods

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 50877
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 1
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 37988
DistanceSpacing: 1.7
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY
TitleUnicode:青空のラプソディ
Artist:fhana
ArtistUnicode:fhána
Creator:[Kamiya]
Version:My Angel Kanna
Source:小林さんちのメイドラゴン
Tags:kobayashi san chi no maidragon opening anime maid dragon OblivioN Karen Dynamix imoutosan PataMon gxytcgxytc
BeatmapID:1245760
BeatmapSetID:586841

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9.3
SliderMultiplier:3.2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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Video,0,"Kobayashi.flv"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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[Kamiya]

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[Kamiya] 2017-03-26T11:00:30+00:00

Karen wrote:
你怎么把我的combo color改了

改回来了

[Kamiya]

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[Kamiya] 2017-03-27T10:19:37+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Genal]
Unused hitsounds:
normal-hitnormal.wav
normal-hitnormal3.wav
normal-hitwhistle.wav
soft-slidertick3.wav
clear

[Hard]
00:29:322 (1) - 这个NC感觉没什么意义呀，删了吧clear

00:29:322 (1,5,1) - 因为你这里有一个包的趋势，所以我还是觉得包一下比较好我知道你说哪了，但是你复制的位置不对。。clear

[Dynamix]
Kiai的音效听起来挺违和的，感觉和gder下节奏的思路不太对得上......要不要试试让gder自己给一个音效吧心寒

[Another]
00:06:877 (2,3,4,5,6) - 23直接的ds差的有点多，统一一下吧clear
00:10:433 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^这种串是手摆的？总感觉间距不太统一......clear
00:13:544 (1,2) - 既然你00:13:877 (3,4) - 叠在滑条头，要不这个也叠在滑条头？或者后面那个叠在滑条尾厚不厚呀？？
kiai的spacing都很少见00:14:544 (1,2,3,4) - 这种和00:50:211 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ，就感觉kiai有点软下来了，要不要试着把kiai里面那几个串的间距拉大一点呀clear

GL

谢谢卡农的摸~

Ellyu

429 posts

Joined May 2014

Ellyu 2017-03-27T10:26:51+00:00

来了
人格
00:29:877 (2) - 个人认为人声的优先度要低于鼓的，特别是这种白线上的重音，盖掉真的很不好受
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - 这连打真的很蛋疼，特别是00:39:099 (4,5,6,7) - 节奏很丰富的却用同样方式处理了，而且音都不算重，有种一拳打在软包子上的反馈感，对比这里00:35:766 (6) - 用了一个滑条改掉比较轻的snare这种方法还好一些。
00:36:988 (2,3) - 2和3音两声鼓比较重可以单独放大间距，就这样snap了反而不好玩，就像intro里这种一样00:02:766 (9,1) - 。类似的不说了
00:44:655 (1,2,3,4) - 3，4上鼓点比1，2重很多，可以提高sv来区别
00:59:766 (1,3) - blanket
01:10:433 (1,2) -01:10:877 (3,4) - 为什么不直接复制ctrl+h+g呢，其实还是比较明显的偏差的（强迫症犯了），而且01:25:544 (1,2,3,4) - 这里就是这种做法

妹桑
00:49:099 (1) - 这里转盘太偷懒了吧，而且后面五连应该从这里起啊00:49:988
00:56:988 (4,1) - 00:57:877 (3,1) - 不是很懂间距处理方式，其实00:56:988 (4,1) -这里不snap的话会好看一些，而且1上确实有重音
01:01:544 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 音乐一样的如果排列一样反馈会好一些
美丽，跟我风格不太像，摸不出啥

Another
00:15:322 (1,2) - 和之前一段combo的3和4有点糊在一起了
00:16:877 (5,1) - blanket
00:33:766 (3,4,5) - 这三个滑条方向上下上或者都一样好玩一些，目前这样有点丑，wpcap后面也是一样的，那就不管了
00:34:211 (5,6) - 是没包好吗
00:39:099 (3) - 人群中突然冒出一个wave slider（只是个人抱怨，比较短的这种滑条不好看，改不改都行）
00:43:544 (5,6,8,1) - blanket
00:48:655 (1,2,3,4,1) - 怀疑放反，因为这个梗实在远超整个谱面的总体难度
01:04:877 (8) - 为什么8突然不是直线了？这种微小角度真的好微妙
01:04:877 (8,3) - blanket
01:07:988 (2,3) - blanket
01:27:766 (5,6) - 这里纵坐标为什么不一样？01:27:322 (3,4) - 这个横坐标是一样的啊
感觉是不是没有做完检查一遍，好多微小的问题比如blanket，我只是把所有能一眼看出的指出来了。

剩下几个难度都只是匆匆看了几眼

CQ
谱面没什么问题，但是全图连个sv变化都没有，而且滑条速度普遍偏慢，有点对不起这歌的丰富节奏

怕他
真的无敌，连挑刺都很难。只不过00:49:099 (1,1,1) - 01:03:321 (1,1,1) - 这里nc好像没有多少意义

Hard
问题其实跟你的another一样，也是很多细微的问题，建议cs7+ar0进行检验，还有比较多类似这种01:24:322 (6,7,8,1) - 你是直接叠上去的但sl让它还是有一定间距，而这时连打方向就要小心，比如这里就出现了antiflow的问题。

Normal
00:30:210 (4,5) - 既然这图里这种1/2都没叠，这里就最好也不叠，其实nm一般都要叠的，但这歌bpm比较低，可以问一下别人
00:57:988 (1,2,3) - 低难度建议不要这样叠，还有blanket也有问题
blanket问题挺多的，有什么原因吗

Easy
我好懒，不想看

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2017-03-28T13:31:10+00:00

handsome muscle wrote:
妹桑
00:49:099 (1) - 这里转盘太偷懒了吧，而且后面五连应该从这里起啊00:49:988 不是偷懒啊这里用什么滑条都不如转盘好五连是因为下成七连转盘就太短了所以改成了自创节奏
00:56:988 (4,1) - 00:57:877 (3,1) - 不是很懂间距处理方式，其实00:56:988 (4,1) -这里不snap的话会好看一些，而且1上确实有重音移动加减速而已后一组拆开来摆太难打所以用了简单的叠头摆法
01:01:544 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 音乐一样的如果排列一样反馈会好一些没啥必要啊用两个一样的节奏有点拖沓
美丽，跟我风格不太像，摸不出啥

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

[Kamiya] 2017-03-28T19:47:35+00:00

imoutosan wrote:
https://puu.sh/uWtkE/981481ce46.wav
漏了个新音效……

音效传上去了

Lavender

886 posts

Joined January 2014

Lavender 2017-03-29T18:07:32+00:00

req by karen
那就只摸人格
[My Angel 4b616e6e61]

这两combo color太相似了，改一改
00:07:322 (1,2,3,4) - 这里跟的小提琴，然后00:07:766 (1,2) - 这里又跟人声，音轨切得比较错乱，我觉得00:07:766 (1,2) - 这里改跟小提琴比较好
00:39:322 (6) - 这里才是起始点吧，不过这我在oniichan里也说过了，我是不支持这样的
00:40:211 (1,2) - 因为这里是一串stream过来，最好不要放一起?
01:20:099 (1,2) - 感觉遮得有点多

没了，这style已经很明显了，羡慕有style

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

[Kamiya] 2017-04-02T12:13:46+00:00

handsome'摸

handsome muscle wrote:
来了
Another
00:15:322 (1,2) - 和之前一段combo的3和4有点糊在一起了本来就是想贴边的
00:16:877 (5,1) - blanketclear
00:33:766 (3,4,5) - 这三个滑条方向上下上或者都一样好玩一些，目前这样有点丑，wpcap后面也是一样的，那就不管了
00:34:211 (5,6) - 是没包好吗clear
00:39:099 (3) - 人群中突然冒出一个wave slider（只是个人抱怨，比较短的这种滑条不好看，改不改都行）
00:43:544 (5,6,8,1) - blanketclear
00:48:655 (1,2,3,4,1) - 怀疑放反，因为这个梗实在远超整个谱面的总体难度那我把距离调整下
01:04:877 (8) - 为什么8突然不是直线了？这种微小角度真的好微妙因为这里跟后面的slider是blanket关系呀~
01:04:877 (8,3) - blanketclear
01:07:988 (2,3) - blanketclear
01:27:766 (5,6) - 这里纵坐标为什么不一样？01:27:322 (3,4) - 这个横坐标是一样的啊
感觉是不是没有做完检查一遍，好多微小的问题比如blanket，我只是把所有能一眼看出的指出来了。

剩下几个难度都只是匆匆看了几眼
Hard
问题其实跟你的another一样，也是很多细微的问题，建议cs7+ar0进行检验，还有比较多类似这种01:24:322 (6,7,8,1) - 你是直接叠上去的但sl让它还是有一定间距，而这时连打方向就要小心，比如这里就出现了antiflow的问题。细小问题解决
Easy
我好懒，不想看你好懒，不想看

谢摸~~

cq的音效re了~

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2017-04-05T15:49:46+00:00

From PM request

IRC MOD

2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: hi
2017-04-05 22:59 [Kamiya]: QWQ frey姥爷
2017-04-05 22:59 [Kamiya]: 哦差点忘了！。
2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: 有没有时间直接在irc里面写
2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: 我懒得po
2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: wangle什么
2017-04-05 23:00 [Kamiya]: 好
2017-04-05 23:00 [Kamiya]: 直接来
2017-04-05 23:00 Frey: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1242687 fhana - RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY [Easy]]
2017-04-05 23:00 [Kamiya]: 先从什么难度开始;w;
2017-04-05 23:01 Frey: 00:42:655 (2) - 直接改成单点
2017-04-05 23:01 Frey: 后面白线没声音的
2017-04-05 23:02 [Kamiya]: 好吧
2017-04-05 23:02 [Kamiya]: done
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 01:19:766 (2,1) -
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 尽量平行
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 2的开头那一截
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 和1并起来有点歪了
2017-04-05 23:02 [Kamiya]: 嗯嗯改好了
2017-04-05 23:03 Frey: 不看gd，
2017-04-05 23:03 Frey: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1242688 fhana - RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY [Hard]]
2017-04-05 23:03 Frey: 00:02:877 (6) - 00:06:433 (6) -
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 你Easy都NC了，Hard没理由不NC
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 看起来太长了
2017-04-05 23:04 [Kamiya]: 那个主难度也不是我的
2017-04-05 23:04 [Kamiya]: 好吧
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 啊拉，假如有很严重的问题给你说就是
2017-04-05 23:04 [Kamiya]: 嗯嗯
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 00:09:988 (6) - NC
2017-04-05 23:05 Frey: Hard前面那段，NC尽量还是短一段
2017-04-05 23:05 Frey: 短一点
2017-04-05 23:05 [Kamiya]: 嗯这部分改好了
2017-04-05 23:06 Frey: Hard的很多间距好乱啊
2017-04-05 23:07 Frey: 一会儿1.1一会儿1.2的
2017-04-05 23:07 Frey: 格子开小点，不然实话说看起来像是急急忙忙瑚的
2017-04-05 23:08 Frey: 这里我提一下吧，反正你一个个排查都可以发现很多间距是有一点点乱的
2017-04-05 23:09 Frey: 主要集中在1/2
2017-04-05 23:10 Frey: 01:03:322 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-04-05 23:10 Frey: 这一段太挤了啦
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 那个
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 00:47:322 (3) - 我在考虑这里的nc
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 应该要个nc吧..
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: kiai用了1.2
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 好这些我全部查好
2017-04-05 23:11 [Kamiya]: 吼
2017-04-05 23:11 Frey: 00:47:322 (3) - 这里可以改啊
2017-04-05 23:12 [Kamiya]: 改好了
2017-04-05 23:12 Frey: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1243651 fhana - RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY [Another]]
2017-04-05 23:13 Frey: 00:03:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - 手摆的也要看间距
2017-04-05 23:13 Frey: 关掉grid snap稍微修一下
2017-04-05 23:14 Frey: 00:06:988 (2,3,4,5) -
2017-04-05 23:14 [Kamiya]: 哇从来没关过。。
2017-04-05 23:14 Frey: 关了没问题
2017-04-05 23:14 Frey: 开的时候别去碰关时候改过的东西就行
2017-04-05 23:14 [Kamiya]: 好的
2017-04-05 23:15 Frey: 不然一眼就看出来那里压根就是随手摆的
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 00:14:544 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 实话说啊
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: overmap的有点过了
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 你这个难度夹在Insane和Extra之间
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 这里单就这一片连打和生造的节奏来说
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 难度超过了本应该有的难度
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 干脆还是按最明显的节奏来
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 就比如
2017-04-05 23:18 [Kamiya]: 要不取个别的名字。
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 改名字没用
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 还不是夹在这些难度中间
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 删00:14:544 (1,2,3) -
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 复制00:14:211 (5,6) -
2017-04-05 23:19 Frey: 粘贴到空白的位置去
2017-04-05 23:19 Frey: 分别ctrl+g 7和8
2017-04-05 23:19 [Kamiya]: 了解意思
2017-04-05 23:20 [Kamiya]: 这部分不需要nc了吧
2017-04-05 23:20 Frey: 可以NC00:14:877 (9) -
2017-04-05 23:20 [Kamiya]: 哦对
2017-04-05 23:21 [Kamiya]: 好改完
2017-04-05 23:21 Frey: 因为它们的整体形状和之前的一组不一样
2017-04-05 23:21 Frey: 00:16:322 (1,2,3) - 这里也可以按类似的方法改
2017-04-05 23:21 [Kamiya]: 嗯我都改好了
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 00:19:988 (9,10) - 可以稍微降下难度
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 这里
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 有点难接
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 相比其他类似节奏
2017-04-05 23:24 Frey: 00:34:877 (7) - NC
2017-04-05 23:25 Frey: 00:35:544 (1) - 取消NC
2017-04-05 23:25 [Kamiya]: done
2017-04-05 23:25 Frey: Another的NC实话说有很多地方需要改
2017-04-05 23:25 Frey: 我还是先给你说怎么去NC吧..
2017-04-05 23:26 [Kamiya]: ...
2017-04-05 23:26 [Kamiya]: 好orz
2017-04-05 23:26 Frey: 首先最基础的就是，最长那根白线一节一次NC，这是全部歌通吃的方法
2017-04-05 23:27 Frey: 假如歌里有歌词，或许你得考虑在歌词明显断句的时候放NC
2017-04-05 23:27 Frey: 最后一个，也是进阶才用的
2017-04-05 23:28 Frey: 当你做的某一段图，有很明显的图案（pattern，你可以用NC去突出来），也就是说无视小节和歌词
2017-04-05 23:28 Frey: 突出你想那么做的那个梗
2017-04-05 23:29 Frey: 就假比说
2017-04-05 23:29 Frey: 00:20:211 (10,1) -
2017-04-05 23:29 Frey: 我觉得他们的图案很明显，一个对称，那我就可以专门让他们在一个颜色里面
2017-04-05 23:30 Frey: 除了突出图案，也可以突出某一种节奏，比如3/4或是某种特殊的声音
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 00:48:655 (1,2,3,4,1) -
2017-04-05 23:32 [Kamiya]: 哇这个进阶
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 还有啊
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 这里太难了
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 连打里面
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 拆圆圈最难
2017-04-05 23:33 Frey: 实在想加难度
2017-04-05 23:33 Frey: 00:48:877 (3) - 把这个改成短滑条
2017-04-05 23:35 Frey: 01:02:877 (3,4) -
2017-04-05 23:35 Frey: 这个
2017-04-05 23:35 Frey: 你怎么打的
2017-04-05 23:36 [Kamiya]: 滑条不走尾巴再甩回去
2017-04-05 23:36 [Kamiya]: owo
2017-04-05 23:36 Frey: ....这种梗还是放到最高难度差不多
2017-04-05 23:36 Frey: 至少在你这个难度的前后，他们两个难度没出现这种太难的
2017-04-05 23:37 Frey: 干脆叠到01:02:433 (1) - 尾巴伤疤
2017-04-05 23:37 Frey: 01:03:211 (4,1) -
2017-04-05 23:37 Frey: 叠到尾巴上
2017-04-05 23:38 [Kamiya]: 我有想过但当时感觉难度会不会小了ww
2017-04-05 23:39 Frey: 不，不适合
2017-04-05 23:40 Frey: 01:11:766 (5) - 我觉得叠在1上更好
2017-04-05 23:40 Frey: 脑袋叠在01:12:211 (1) -
2017-04-05 23:40 Frey: 上面
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: 这样的话01:11:544 (4,5,6) - 整体看起来好看些
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 吼
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: 01:13:988 (1,2) - 这个更难
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: QAQ
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 2333
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 23333333
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: 一个4.5左右的歌不是这么难FC的啊
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 我想高潮部分吧都难一点。。
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: 别放这么多太难的
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: 间距3.0封顶了
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: 1/4
2017-04-05 23:42 [Kamiya]: 好
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: FC不是让玩家碰运气去FC
2017-04-05 23:43 Frey: 好啦就这些吧...

祝好运！

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

[Kamiya] 2017-04-05T15:50:50+00:00

Frey wrote:
From PM request

IRC MOD
2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: hi
2017-04-05 22:59 [Kamiya]: QWQ frey姥爷
2017-04-05 22:59 [Kamiya]: 哦差点忘了！。
2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: 有没有时间直接在irc里面写
2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: 我懒得po
2017-04-05 22:59 Frey: wangle什么
2017-04-05 23:00 [Kamiya]: 好
2017-04-05 23:00 [Kamiya]: 直接来
2017-04-05 23:00 Frey: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1242687 fhana - RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY [Easy]]
2017-04-05 23:00 [Kamiya]: 先从什么难度开始;w;
2017-04-05 23:01 Frey: 00:42:655 (2) - 直接改成单点
2017-04-05 23:01 Frey: 后面白线没声音的
2017-04-05 23:02 [Kamiya]: 好吧
2017-04-05 23:02 [Kamiya]: done
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 01:19:766 (2,1) -
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 尽量平行
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 2的开头那一截
2017-04-05 23:02 Frey: 和1并起来有点歪了
2017-04-05 23:02 [Kamiya]: 嗯嗯改好了
2017-04-05 23:03 Frey: 不看gd，
2017-04-05 23:03 Frey: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1242688 fhana - RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY [Hard]]
2017-04-05 23:03 Frey: 00:02:877 (6) - 00:06:433 (6) -
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 你Easy都NC了，Hard没理由不NC
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 看起来太长了
2017-04-05 23:04 [Kamiya]: 那个主难度也不是我的
2017-04-05 23:04 [Kamiya]: 好吧
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 啊拉，假如有很严重的问题给你说就是
2017-04-05 23:04 [Kamiya]: 嗯嗯
2017-04-05 23:04 Frey: 00:09:988 (6) - NC
2017-04-05 23:05 Frey: Hard前面那段，NC尽量还是短一段
2017-04-05 23:05 Frey: 短一点
2017-04-05 23:05 [Kamiya]: 嗯这部分改好了
2017-04-05 23:06 Frey: Hard的很多间距好乱啊
2017-04-05 23:07 Frey: 一会儿1.1一会儿1.2的
2017-04-05 23:07 Frey: 格子开小点，不然实话说看起来像是急急忙忙瑚的
2017-04-05 23:08 Frey: 这里我提一下吧，反正你一个个排查都可以发现很多间距是有一点点乱的
2017-04-05 23:09 Frey: 主要集中在1/2
2017-04-05 23:10 Frey: 01:03:322 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-04-05 23:10 Frey: 这一段太挤了啦
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 那个
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 00:47:322 (3) - 我在考虑这里的nc
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 应该要个nc吧..
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: kiai用了1.2
2017-04-05 23:10 [Kamiya]: 好这些我全部查好
2017-04-05 23:11 [Kamiya]: 吼
2017-04-05 23:11 Frey: 00:47:322 (3) - 这里可以改啊
2017-04-05 23:12 [Kamiya]: 改好了
2017-04-05 23:12 Frey: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1243651 fhana - RHAPSODY OF BLUE SKY [Another]]
2017-04-05 23:13 Frey: 00:03:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - 手摆的也要看间距
2017-04-05 23:13 Frey: 关掉grid snap稍微修一下
2017-04-05 23:14 Frey: 00:06:988 (2,3,4,5) -
2017-04-05 23:14 [Kamiya]: 哇从来没关过。。
2017-04-05 23:14 Frey: 关了没问题
2017-04-05 23:14 Frey: 开的时候别去碰关时候改过的东西就行
2017-04-05 23:14 [Kamiya]: 好的
2017-04-05 23:15 Frey: 不然一眼就看出来那里压根就是随手摆的
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 00:14:544 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 实话说啊
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: overmap的有点过了
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 你这个难度夹在Insane和Extra之间
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 这里单就这一片连打和生造的节奏来说
2017-04-05 23:17 Frey: 难度超过了本应该有的难度
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 干脆还是按最明显的节奏来
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 就比如
2017-04-05 23:18 [Kamiya]: 要不取个别的名字。
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 改名字没用
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 还不是夹在这些难度中间
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 删00:14:544 (1,2,3) -
2017-04-05 23:18 Frey: 复制00:14:211 (5,6) -
2017-04-05 23:19 Frey: 粘贴到空白的位置去
2017-04-05 23:19 Frey: 分别ctrl+g 7和8
2017-04-05 23:19 [Kamiya]: 了解意思
2017-04-05 23:20 [Kamiya]: 这部分不需要nc了吧
2017-04-05 23:20 Frey: 可以NC00:14:877 (9) -
2017-04-05 23:20 [Kamiya]: 哦对
2017-04-05 23:21 [Kamiya]: 好改完
2017-04-05 23:21 Frey: 因为它们的整体形状和之前的一组不一样
2017-04-05 23:21 Frey: 00:16:322 (1,2,3) - 这里也可以按类似的方法改
2017-04-05 23:21 [Kamiya]: 嗯我都改好了
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 00:19:988 (9,10) - 可以稍微降下难度
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 这里
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 有点难接
2017-04-05 23:22 Frey: 相比其他类似节奏
2017-04-05 23:24 Frey: 00:34:877 (7) - NC
2017-04-05 23:25 Frey: 00:35:544 (1) - 取消NC
2017-04-05 23:25 [Kamiya]: done
2017-04-05 23:25 Frey: Another的NC实话说有很多地方需要改
2017-04-05 23:25 Frey: 我还是先给你说怎么去NC吧..
2017-04-05 23:26 [Kamiya]: ...
2017-04-05 23:26 [Kamiya]: 好orz
2017-04-05 23:26 Frey: 首先最基础的就是，最长那根白线一节一次NC，这是全部歌通吃的方法
2017-04-05 23:27 Frey: 假如歌里有歌词，或许你得考虑在歌词明显断句的时候放NC
2017-04-05 23:27 Frey: 最后一个，也是进阶才用的
2017-04-05 23:28 Frey: 当你做的某一段图，有很明显的图案（pattern，你可以用NC去突出来），也就是说无视小节和歌词
2017-04-05 23:28 Frey: 突出你想那么做的那个梗
2017-04-05 23:29 Frey: 就假比说
2017-04-05 23:29 Frey: 00:20:211 (10,1) -
2017-04-05 23:29 Frey: 我觉得他们的图案很明显，一个对称，那我就可以专门让他们在一个颜色里面
2017-04-05 23:30 Frey: 除了突出图案，也可以突出某一种节奏，比如3/4或是某种特殊的声音
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 00:48:655 (1,2,3,4,1) -
2017-04-05 23:32 [Kamiya]: 哇这个进阶
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 还有啊
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 这里太难了
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 连打里面
2017-04-05 23:32 Frey: 拆圆圈最难
2017-04-05 23:33 Frey: 实在想加难度
2017-04-05 23:33 Frey: 00:48:877 (3) - 把这个改成短滑条
2017-04-05 23:35 Frey: 01:02:877 (3,4) -
2017-04-05 23:35 Frey: 这个
2017-04-05 23:35 Frey: 你怎么打的
2017-04-05 23:36 [Kamiya]: 滑条不走尾巴再甩回去
2017-04-05 23:36 [Kamiya]: owo
2017-04-05 23:36 Frey: ....这种梗还是放到最高难度差不多
2017-04-05 23:36 Frey: 至少在你这个难度的前后，他们两个难度没出现这种太难的
2017-04-05 23:37 Frey: 干脆叠到01:02:433 (1) - 尾巴伤疤
2017-04-05 23:37 Frey: 01:03:211 (4,1) -
2017-04-05 23:37 Frey: 叠到尾巴上
2017-04-05 23:38 [Kamiya]: 我有想过但当时感觉难度会不会小了ww
2017-04-05 23:39 Frey: 不，不适合
2017-04-05 23:40 Frey: 01:11:766 (5) - 我觉得叠在1上更好
2017-04-05 23:40 Frey: 脑袋叠在01:12:211 (1) -
2017-04-05 23:40 Frey: 上面
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: 这样的话01:11:544 (4,5,6) - 整体看起来好看些
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 吼
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: 01:13:988 (1,2) - 这个更难
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: QAQ
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 2333
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 23333333
2017-04-05 23:41 Frey: 一个4.5左右的歌不是这么难FC的啊
2017-04-05 23:41 [Kamiya]: 我想高潮部分吧都难一点。。
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: 别放这么多太难的
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: 间距3.0封顶了
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: 1/4
2017-04-05 23:42 [Kamiya]: 好
2017-04-05 23:42 Frey: FC不是让玩家碰运气去FC
2017-04-05 23:43 Frey: 好啦就这些吧...

祝好运！

感谢！

Toruta

147 posts

Joined October 2012

Toruta 2017-04-06T10:44:15+00:00

insane diff以上的都好有挑戰性-0- 對小的太有挑戰性了Orz
好多地方都不知道說不說好怕是有特別含義才放的這麼跳的0.0
[Hard]
這種00:01:766 (2,3) - ，00:05:322 (2,3) - ，00:08:877 (2,3) - 後面等等ds沒問題嗎我覺得應該是刻意的OAO 我是覺得能玩但不知道新手(?)會不會覺得奇怪
00:23:766 (1,2) - 試試把1和2的位置調換?
01:09:988 (4) - 飛出去了ww
01:20:655 (3,4,5,6) - 試試疊在一起？因為其他位置的4連都是疊在一起的

[another]
00:23:322 (3,4,5) - 試試3和4疊在5的一起好像只有這個位置的2連是這個間距的(不知道有沒有看錯
[imouto's Extra]
我一直很喜歡你的滑條>_< 有冒犯的地方請不要見怪
01:03:322 (1,1) - 相隔的距離和01:03:544 (1,2) - ，01:03:877 (1,2) - 沒有很大分別，試試把後面2組的距離調近一點嗎
01:19:988 (3,1) - 感覺隔的有點遠？

gl

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2017-04-06T14:11:39+00:00

khy200610140 wrote:
[imouto's Extra]
我一直很喜歡你的滑條>_< 有冒犯的地方請不要見怪
01:03:322 (1,1) - 相隔的距離和01:03:544 (1,2) - ，01:03:877 (1,2) - 沒有很大分別，試試把後面2組的距離調近一點嗎是挺好但是缩小间距的话最后一个12会跟后面的滑条贴上难看……
01:19:988 (3,1) - 感覺隔的有點遠？我自己还能打就懒得管了……
gl

AllieBork

83 posts

Joined August 2010

AllieBork 2017-04-07T18:23:55+00:00

EDIT: It's come to my attention that offscreen in the editor does not necessitate offscreen in gameplay. Still good to be cautious, and some of them were pretty far down. Playtest and check, still!

Some of the beatmaps in this set have screens that go slightly outside of the playing field(particularly at the bottom). That's unrankable. Quoting this page:
Hitobjects must never be off-screen in 4:3 aspect ratios. Hitobjects that are even partially off-screen can create reading difficulties. Test play your map to confirm this.

I recommend you fix them as fast as possible. Difficulties with this problem:

OblivioN's Normal
imouto's Extra
Hard
Dynamix's Insane
Patamon's Insane
My Angel Kanna

Use Ctrl + A in the editor to select all, check where exactly the offscreen parts are, then play the map and spot which circles or sliderends go off-screen. Also be sure to check sliderpaths, which this method doesn't check for.

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

[Kamiya] 2017-04-10T11:19:13+00:00

AllieBork wrote:
EDIT: It's come to my attention that offscreen in the editor does not necessitate offscreen in gameplay. Still good to be cautious, and some of them were pretty far down. Playtest and check, still!

Some of the beatmaps in this set have screens that go slightly outside of the playing field(particularly at the bottom). That's unrankable. Quoting this page:
Hitobjects must never be off-screen in 4:3 aspect ratios. Hitobjects that are even partially off-screen can create reading difficulties. Test play your map to confirm this.

I recommend you fix them as fast as possible. Difficulties with this problem:

OblivioN's Normal
imouto's Extra
Hard
Dynamix's Insane
Patamon's Insane
My Angel Kanna

Use Ctrl + A in the editor to select all, check where exactly the offscreen parts are, then play the map and spot which circles or sliderends go off-screen. Also be sure to check sliderpaths, which this method doesn't check for.

It's No errors in this beatmap,dude

AllieBork

83 posts

Joined August 2010

AllieBork 2017-04-10T11:38:01+00:00

[Kamiya] wrote:
It's No errors in this beatmap,dude

Sorry for the trouble ;_; you're right.

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2017-04-15T04:42:59+00:00

m4m
圖有進步，以下是強迫症摸

[Easy]

01:15:766 (1) - 太長了這個折返，換成普通的1/1、2/1物件吧

[OblivioN's Normal]

00:30:210 (4,5) - 沒疊好
00:43:322 (6,7) - 01:00:433 (6,7) - 01:14:655 (6,7) - ^

[Hard]

00:31:655 (3) - 這個藍線起的折返很奇怪，我建議00:31:655 - 用圓圈，然後折返改成三下
按照你00:46:655 (1,2) - 的NC，00:48:433 (5,1) - NC應該互換，順便00:49:099 - 也要NC
01:08:211 (5,1) - 包的好難看啊，還是說沒特意要包，如果是沒特意那就把01:08:655 (1,2) - 往下放，這種半包不包的感覺最不好了
01:12:211 (1,2) - 我建議疊一下，因為你後面01:13:099 (3,4) - 疊了，不然這個地方看起來不夠一致。當然疊完之後34要往右移一點
01:13:544 (4,1) - DS太遠了，縮小一點，或者你可以把01:13:988 (1,2) - 旋轉逆時針90度。另外01:14:433 (2,3) - 你可以用同一個弧度的滑條，這樣兩個不同弧度的看著難受而且沒有一致性。Eg: http://puu.sh/vkGYc/147691d476.jpg

[Pata-Mon's Insane]

00:51:877 (5,6) - 這個地方直接用1/1滑條更好，00:55:433 (5,6) - 01:06:099 (5,6) - 01:09:544 (4,5) - same

[Dynamix's Insane]

https://puu.sh/vkH8R/df384941fa.png 朋友，一大堆重複綠線啊
01:24:655 (1) - 歪了，和前面四個圈不在一條直線上

[Another]

感覺叫Insane會比較好，Another就變成好像這個set不是自己的
00:39:766 (2) - 感覺放的和下一個物件離得有點遠，往下放一點
00:40:988 - 這裡有個vocal，空了怪難受的，建議加個圓圈疊在00:41:099 (1) - 上（記得00:40:877 (3) - 也要疊上），或者00:40:877 (3) - 直接改成滑條
00:43:544 (3,6,1) - 明顯沒疊好，但其實問題是出在00:43:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - 這個梗你沒有用複製的方法而是手擺所以物件並不在一條直線上，https://puu.sh/vkFVL/300aae3258.jpg 要弄在一條直線上的物件很簡單，放好了12然後複製一份，把複製的1放到原本2的位置，然後刪掉複製的1，這樣複製的2就變成了3，然後再複製一遍，如此類推，https://puu.sh/vkG0D/5f26ea4f04.jpg 完成之後的效果。然後你再把00:43:766 (5) - 重新拉一下然後複製到00:44:211 (1) - ctrl+H+J，就可以得到完美的梗了
00:46:544 (7,8) - 由於前面三個都是從上往下，你這第四個變成從下往上就顯得一致性不夠好了，我建議一整組考慮換個方法，比如說四方形或者像你後面00:47:322 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 兩個從左到右，兩個從右到左。 Eg: https://puu.sh/vkFFq/8d52edd5e7.jpg
00:45:877 (3,5,7) - 這幾個可以分別NC一下以示強調，00:47:654 (3,5,7) - same
01:20:655 (2,3,4,5,1) - 弄個正五角形吧，現在這個形狀還有滑條的形狀導致這個梗一來不好打二來不好看，用Ctrl+Shift+D生成一個1.0x DS和54度的五角形，然後換一下順序，再重新拉一下滑條就可以了。我個人建議像 https://puu.sh/vkFr1/a0af3beab7.jpg 這樣的不錯，滑條用三點就夠了

[imouto's Extra]

imouto's Insane?
01:16:211 (1,2,3,1,1,2) - 初見不知道發生什麼就死了，這個折返跳梗和前面風格有點不同，而且難度也和前面差得有點大，突然就難了，如果可以的話換個梗更好，不想換的話我建議01:16:544 (1) - NC改到01:16:433 (3) - ，01:18:210 (3,1) - 01:19:988 (3,1) - 這裡也是

[My Angel Kanna]

求你低一點的HP
00:32:433 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這個overmap感覺不太好，1/8滑條直接用圓圈就可以了
00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - 難，我覺得234可以放到上面，和00:43:988 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - 弄個對稱 https://puu.sh/vkEwT/ab636a8ea9.jpg
01:20:433 (2) - http://puu.sh/vkEC0/8a6ba70be3.jpg

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-04-15T04:45:58+00:00

@肌肉那种地方加不加都行没啥问题
@啃球我还是比较想用clickable把00:52:099 (6) - 之类地方的vocal跟出来，所以比较喜欢现在这个节奏

谢摸~

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2017-04-15T07:41:01+00:00

handsome muscle wrote:
人格
00:29:877 (2) - 个人认为人声的优先度要低于鼓的，特别是这种白线上的重音，盖掉真的很不好受有道理
00:39:099 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - 这连打真的很蛋疼，特别是00:39:099 (4,5,6,7) - 节奏很丰富的却用同样方式处理了，而且音都不算重，有种一拳打在软包子上的反馈感，对比这里00:35:766 (6) - 用了一个滑条改掉比较轻的snare这种方法还好一些。换了下节奏
00:36:988 (2,3) - 2和3音两声鼓比较重可以单独放大间距，就这样snap了反而不好玩，就像intro里这种一样00:02:766 (9,1) - 。类似的不说了平静段不想放难的东西，我喜欢比较大的难度差异来体现歌曲激烈程度
00:44:655 (1,2,3,4) - 3，4上鼓点比1，2重很多，可以提高sv来区别我觉得不是很有必要，过分拘泥于强调声调鼓点之类的东西会让图变得很没有章法
00:59:766 (1,3) - blanket
01:10:433 (1,2) -01:10:877 (3,4) - 为什么不直接复制ctrl+h+g呢，其实还是比较明显的偏差的（强迫症犯了），而且01:25:544 (1,2,3,4) - 这里就是这种做法 ke

Lavender wrote:
req by karen
那就只摸人格
[My Angel 4b616e6e61]
这两combo color太相似了，改一改
00:07:322 (1,2,3,4) - 这里跟的小提琴，然后00:07:766 (1,2) - 这里又跟人声，音轨切得比较错乱，我觉得00:07:766 (1,2) - 这里改跟小提琴比较好我觉得前面的音比较特殊所以用1/8跟一下，后面接人声我怎么听也没觉得违和
00:39:322 (6) - 这里才是起始点吧，不过这我在oniichan里也说过了，我是不支持这样的节奏改了，顺便这里跟的00:39:544 - 这个嘟嘟嘟嘟，其实oniichan那个我后来也改了
00:40:211 (1,2) - 因为这里是一串stream过来，最好不要放一起? 停顿有强调作用，爽
01:20:099 (1,2) - 感觉遮得有点多这个应该非常简单，完全不会读错
没了，这style已经很明显了，羡慕有style

Kencho wrote:
[My Angel Kanna]
求你低一點的HP 是的
00:32:433 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 這個overmap感覺不太好，1/8滑條直接用圓圈就可以了是的
00:43:766 (1,2,3,4) - 難，我覺得234可以放到上面，和00:43:988 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - 弄個對稱 https://puu.sh/vkEwT/ab636a8ea9.jpg 我感觉还是十分简单的，停顿可以很好地强调下一个音，而且大圈比较难排版，能不分散我就不太想放别的位置
01:20:433 (2) - http://puu.sh/vkEC0/8a6ba70be3.jpg 这个不好看呀。两头重叠比较合曲感觉

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2017-04-15T08:54:48+00:00

Kencho wrote:
[imouto's Extra]
imouto's Insane? 还是挺难的算了吧……
01:16:211 (1,2,3,1,1,2) - 初見不知道發生什麼就死了，這個折返跳梗和前面風格有點不同，而且難度也和前面差得有點大，突然就難了，如果可以的話換個梗更好，不想換的話我建議01:16:544 (1) - NC改到01:16:433 (3) - ，01:18:210 (3,1) - 01:19:988 (3,1) - 這裡也是好像是好读一点要说风格的话只是因为kiai前面设计的太送……怎么改都麻烦就只改nc吧纯鼠打这个挺简单的

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[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

[Kamiya] 2017-04-15T11:39:47+00:00

Kencho wrote:
m4m
圖有進步，以下是強迫症摸
[Easy]
01:15:766 (1) - 太長了這個折返，換成普通的1/1、2/1物件吧
clear

[OblivioN's Normal]
00:30:210 (4,5) - 沒疊好clear
00:43:322 (6,7) - 01:00:433 (6,7) - 01:14:655 (6,7) - ^
clear

[Hard]
00:31:655 (3) - 這個藍線起的折返很奇怪，我建議00:31:655 - 用圓圈，然後折返改成三下clear
按照你00:46:655 (1,2) - 的NC，00:48:433 (5,1) - NC應該互換，順便00:49:099 - 也要NCclear
01:08:211 (5,1) - 包的好難看啊，還是說沒特意要包，如果是沒特意那就把01:08:655 (1,2) - 往下放，這種半包不包的感覺最不好了clear
01:12:211 (1,2) - 我建議疊一下，因為你後面01:13:099 (3,4) - 疊了，不然這個地方看起來不夠一致。當然疊完之後34要往右移一點clear
01:13:544 (4,1) - DS太遠了，縮小一點，或者你可以把01:13:988 (1,2) - 旋轉逆時針90度。另外01:14:433 (2,3) - 你可以用同一個弧度的滑條，這樣兩個不同弧度的看著難受而且沒有一致性。Eg: http://puu.sh/vkGYc/147691d476.jpg
clear

[Dynamix's Insane]
https://puu.sh/vkH8R/df384941fa.png 朋友，一大堆重複綠線啊clear,我的锅。
01:24:655 (1) - 歪了，和前面四個圈不在一條直線上

[Another]
感覺叫Insane會比較好，Another就變成好像這個set不是自己的clear
00:39:766 (2) - 感覺放的和下一個物件離得有點遠，往下放一點clear
00:40:988 - 這裡有個vocal，空了怪難受的，建議加個圓圈疊在00:41:099 (1) - 上（記得00:40:877 (3) - 也要疊上），或者00:40:877 (3) - 直接改成滑條clear
00:43:544 (3,6,1) - 明顯沒疊好，但其實問題是出在00:43:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - 這個梗你沒有用複製的方法而是手擺所以物件並不在一條直線上，https://puu.sh/vkFVL/300aae3258.jpg 要弄在一條直線上的物件很簡單，放好了12然後複製一份，把複製的1放到原本2的位置，然後刪掉複製的1，這樣複製的2就變成了3，然後再複製一遍，如此類推，https://puu.sh/vkG0D/5f26ea4f04.jpg 完成之後的效果。然後你再把00:43:766 (5) - 重新拉一下然後複製到00:44:211 (1) - ctrl+H+J，就可以得到完美的梗了clear
00:46:544 (7,8) - 由於前面三個都是從上往下，你這第四個變成從下往上就顯得一致性不夠好了，我建議一整組考慮換個方法，比如說四方形或者像你後面00:47:322 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 兩個從左到右，兩個從右到左。 Eg: https://puu.sh/vkFFq/8d52edd5e7.jpgclear
00:45:877 (3,5,7) - 這幾個可以分別NC一下以示強調，00:47:654 (3,5,7) - sameclear
01:20:655 (2,3,4,5,1) - 弄個正五角形吧，現在這個形狀還有滑條的形狀導致這個梗一來不好打二來不好看，用Ctrl+Shift+D生成一個1.0x DS和54度的五角形，然後換一下順序，再重新拉一下滑條就可以了。我個人建議像 https://puu.sh/vkFr1/a0af3beab7.jpg 這樣的不錯，滑條用三點就夠了
clear

感谢球爷QAQ

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2017-04-16T12:07:17+00:00

@Kamiya 你沒更新人哥的難度啊
另外Insane裡面00:43:766 (5) - 和00:44:210 (1) - 互換一下啊，像你原本的放的那樣，00:44:099 (6) - 疊到00:43:544 (3) -

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

[Kamiya] 2017-04-16T12:29:50+00:00

Kencho wrote:
@Kamiya 你沒更新人哥的難度啊
另外Insane裡面00:43:766 (5) - 和00:44:210 (1) - 互換一下啊，像你原本的放的那樣，00:44:099 (6) - 疊到00:43:544 (3) -脑子笨。。clear

记得昨天就更新的了

这下完了。人哥打死我了要

重新更新了。

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2017-04-16T21:45:30+00:00

Tags有問題
imouto's Extra: "kobayashi san chi no maidragon opening anime maid dragon OblivioN Karen Dynamix imoutosan PataMon gxytcgxytc"
"Pata-Mon" 這裡少了個 -

[Kamiya]

637 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

[Kamiya] 2017-04-17T00:08:50+00:00

Kencho wrote:
Tags有問題
imouto's Extra: "kobayashi san chi no maidragon opening anime maid dragon OblivioN Karen Dynamix imoutosan PataMon gxytcgxytc"
"Pata-Mon" 這裡少了個 -

改好啦~

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2017-04-17T01:59:01+00:00

Hey, just a really quick check because you're planning to push this forward.

Can you call someone to check the offset? I find it to be -3/-4 off (meaning, it should be -681/2).

Hitsounds on the Insane difficulty are inaudible. Bump them to 60%, at the very least. Currently they blend waaaay too much with the background music.
Double-check hitsounds on imouto's Extra, please. Stuff like 01:01:322 (5) - 01:04:321 (2) - 01:08:655 (1) - 01:21:988 (3) - 01:24:877 (2) - etc. etc. having no hitsounding whatsoever makes no sense. Hitsounds need to be rechecked on this difficulty before it gets iconned.
Something similar happens with OblivioN's Normal, check hitsounding on these two difficulties.
On Easy, the clap on tail at 01:20:210 - sounds really random, I would suggest you to remove it.

Hitsounding aside,
01:16:433 (1,2) - 01:19:988 (1,2) - on imouto's Extra. These two patterns are a massive difficulty spike due to how the break the spacing in such a short period of time. It would be nice if you could gather more opinions before pushing this forward.
00:56:655 (3,4,1) - on imouto's Extra. Visually speaking, this pattern looks quite bad, stacking kinda breaks the aesthetics.
@Dynamic: Check AiMod.

That's all.
Good luck with the mapset!

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2017-04-17T04:56:43+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
Hey, just a really quick check because you're planning to push this forward.

Hitsounds on the Insane difficulty are inaudible. Bump them to 60%, at the very least. Currently they blend waaaay too much with the background music.
Double-check hitsounds on imouto's Extra, please. Stuff like 01:01:322 (5) - 01:04:321 (2) - 01:08:655 (1) - 01:21:988 (3) - 01:24:877 (2) - etc. etc. having no hitsounding whatsoever makes no sense. Hitsounds need to be rechecked on this difficulty before it gets iconned.
I could agree with most parts you mentioned... But 01:01:322 (5) - ? Even soft-sample of 90% volume is already quite loud, or more than just 'noticeable'. Besides the vocal on 01:01:322 - is obviously relatively weak, in order to stress the latter vocal on 01:01:544 - . I didn't see there's any reason to add additional hitsounds to emphasize the vocal or something else here.
Other parts were fixed.

Hitsounding aside,
01:16:433 (1,2) - 01:19:988 (1,2) - on imouto's Extra. These two patterns are a massive difficulty spike due to how the break the spacing in such a short period of time. It would be nice if you could gather more opinions before pushing this forward.
Generally speaking these whole pattern is as difficult as 00:15:322 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - or 00:47:322 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - . It feels like a difficulty spike because the former kiai is mapped in a easier way.
For myself I could play these two patterns easily... I used to ask some players to testplay it. Actually for most players they could follow the spacing change in their 2nd try (even 1st try), since they've met this kind of jumps in the former patterns. As for players who are not good at 270bpm single taps, reducing spacing won't change much unless I remove all those 1/4 patterns, which is rather meaningless.
yeah it's difficult for some players, but for someone else it's also easy to play

00:56:655 (3,4,1) - on imouto's Extra. Visually speaking, this pattern looks quite bad, stacking kinda breaks the aesthetics.
ok

That's all.
Good luck with the mapset!

Kencho

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Kencho 2017-04-17T06:46:31+00:00

Dynamix怎麼一直沒出現過呢，第一頁那幾個人的mod都沒回覆過，然後Normal也是，前面兩頁的mod都沒人回覆，也不知道是改了還是沒改，@Kamiya 如果是幫他們改，也要把前面幾個人的mod也回覆了，因為現在mapper有責任要回覆每個人的mod，上次沒注意就被strike了

[Kamiya]

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[Kamiya] 2017-04-17T11:46:26+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
Hey, just a really quick check because you're planning to push this forward.

Can you call someone to check the offset? I find it to be -3/-4 off (meaning, it should be -681/2).checked,the offset is no problem.

Hitsounds on the Insane difficulty are inaudible. Bump them to 60%, at the very least. Currently they blend waaaay too much with the background music.
Something similar happens with OblivioN's Normal, check hitsounding on these two difficulties.clear,checked and remaked
On Easy, the clap on tail at 01:20:210 - sounds really random, I would suggest you to remove it.clear

Hitsounding aside,
01:16:433 (1,2) - 01:19:988 (1,2) - on imouto's Extra. These two patterns are a massive difficulty spike due to how the break the spacing in such a short period of time. It would be nice if you could gather more opinions before pushing this forward.
00:56:655 (3,4,1) - on imouto's Extra. Visually speaking, this pattern looks quite bad, stacking kinda breaks the aesthetics.
@Dynamic: Check AiMod.checked and deleted those

That's all.
Good luck with the mapset!

thank you for modding

[Kamiya]

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[Kamiya] 2017-04-17T11:58:26+00:00

CQ回(Dynamix's Insane)

kanor wrote:
[Dynamix]
Kiai的音效听起来挺违和的，感觉和gder下节奏的思路不太对得上......要不要试试让gder自己给一个音效吧

handsome muscle wrote:
CQ
谱面没什么问题，但是全图连个sv变化都没有，而且滑条速度普遍偏慢，有点对不起这歌的丰富节奏就先这样了

Pata-Mon wrote:
M4M from karen

[Dynamix's Insane]
00:26:766 (4,5) - 这里节奏不太舒服，因为前面你是把vocal做成clickable的，比如00:26:544 (3) - 这样
01:02:766 - 前面感觉上也是更优先vocal，而且这里vocal密度不高所以这vocal更加突出了，还是clickable好

re了遍音效没问题了

歪哥回

handsome muscle wrote:
Normal
00:30:210 (4,5) - 既然这图里这种1/2都没叠，这里就最好也不叠，其实nm一般都要叠的，但这歌bpm比较低，可以问一下别人clear
00:57:988 (1,2,3) - 低难度建议不要这样叠，还有blanket也有问题clear
blanket问题挺多的，有什么原因吗

因为OblivioN的号是被ban状态只能由我这个助理帮她回复。

CQ IN-GAME 确认过所以我在这里统一回复了~

thank you for modding

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[Kamiya] 2017-04-17T12:03:42+00:00

khy200610140 wrote:
insane diff以上的都好有挑戰性-0- 對小的太有挑戰性了Orz
好多地方都不知道說不說好怕是有特別含義才放的這麼跳的0.0
[Hard]
這種00:01:766 (2,3) - ，00:05:322 (2,3) - ，00:08:877 (2,3) - 後面等等ds沒問題嗎我覺得應該是刻意的OAO 我是覺得能玩但不知道新手(?)會不會覺得奇怪不会。
00:23:766 (1,2) - 試試把1和2的位置調換?
01:09:988 (4) - 飛出去了ww 要的效果
01:20:655 (3,4,5,6) - 試試疊在一起？因為其他位置的4連都是疊在一起的

[another]
00:23:322 (3,4,5) - 試試3和4疊在5的一起好像只有這個位置的2連是這個間距的(不知道有沒有看錯不需要吧，感觉节奏合适

gl

谢谢摸

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[Kamiya] 2017-04-17T12:05:23+00:00

Kencho wrote:
Dynamix怎麼一直沒出現過呢，第一頁那幾個人的mod都沒回覆過，然後Normal也是，前面兩頁的mod都沒人回覆，也不知道是改了還是沒改，@Kamiya 如果是幫他們改，也要把前面幾個人的mod也回覆了，因為現在mapper有責任要回覆每個人的mod，上次沒注意就被strike了

Dynamix我也在游戏碰到，碰到就问好了回复工作我来做，OblivioN的号被ban，我能联系到本人就也是我替代回复。

都回复完毕~

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Kencho 2017-04-17T17:15:17+00:00

Hard忘了說點東西

01:19:321 - 這裡重音不該用滑條尾，所以01:19:099 (5,6) - 換一下比較好，就像你前面01:17:322 (5,1) - 一樣，然後記得NC從01:19:321 - 開始，不要在01:19:766 (1) - NC

01:22:877 (4) - NC

Edit : 00:22:766 (3) - 藍線折返沒改，和00:31:655 (3,1) - 一樣的，另外00:31:766 (1) - 不要NC

Last edited by Kencho 2017-04-17T18:56:26+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

[Kamiya]

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[Kamiya] 2017-04-17T17:54:26+00:00

Kencho wrote:
Hard忘了說點東西

01:19:321 - 這裡重音不該用滑條尾，所以01:19:099 (5,6) - 換一下比較好，就像你前面01:17:322 (5,1) - 一樣，然後記得NC從01:19:321 - 開始，不要在01:19:766 (1) - NCclear

01:22:877 (4) - NCclear
Edit : 00:22:766 (3) - 藍線折返沒改，和00:31:655 (3,1) - 一樣的，另外00:31:766 (1) - 不要NCclear

改好了

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Kencho 2017-04-18T16:10:55+00:00

Looks good now

Bubbled!

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Sotarks 2017-04-21T10:08:41+00:00

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I Must Decrease 2017-04-22T07:58:05+00:00

Video quality here is pretty lacking. I suggest editing this to a higher quality version or using mine. Your filesize can be larger so use this video for better quality:

https://puu.sh/vsjG0/61e3afc4d5.avi (good video name)

[Kamiya]

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[Kamiya] 2017-04-23T06:58:06+00:00

Xexxar wrote:
Video quality here is pretty lacking. I suggest editing this to a higher quality version or using mine. Your filesize can be larger so use this video for better quality:

https://puu.sh/vsjG0/61e3afc4d5.avi (good video name)

~~Thank you so much for your suggest But i think this video is too large than my video's size.(21MB's video maybe someone cant download it)So I do not change.(actually, I Can't Download it.........~~

Download it(Spend me 2hours....)ok upload it and Thank you so much for your suggest

Kencho

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Kencho 2017-04-23T18:26:30+00:00

ok

Rebubbled!

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Kibbleru 2017-04-26T17:03:09+00:00

before i check this, can u increase the rhythm density in the kiai for easy diff otherwise spread wouldn't be that good

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