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-Promise
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
peaceGiant
Hmmmm, Interesting Choice
hohol454
Cool song

Dancing in Wonderland
Timing: what did you do :roll: . I'm not that great at timing but
771,379.746835443038,4,2,0,20,1,0
3808,348.837209302326,4,2,0,35,1,0
17761,352.941176470588,4,2,0,35,1,0
26231,348.837209302326,4,3,0,80,1,0
123903,352.941176470588,4,2,0,35,1,0
129550,348.837209302326,4,2,0,10,1,1

Should be all you need. The offsets probably aren't 100% correct but it's workable. You can convert the map to taiko in song setup to edit SV over 2x and then turn it back instead of using a 344bpm timing point

General: OD6 is too low

the map itself: A lot of these are just suggestions, especially in the first half

00:10:784 (1) - rotate 90 degrees
00:11:918 (9) - overmapped
00:15:668 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you could make it 5 note sliderstream and then make the next slider a triple like this
00:34:867 (2,3) - pretty evil
00:45:359 (5) - could make into 1/8 sliders, also the undermap where 8 would be is a bit strange
00:45:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you got bamboozled by your timing, move everything 1/8 later
00:51:228 - again undermap
00:53:370 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 1 note too many in the stream, caused by timing again
00:56:799 - undermap
00:59:628 - ^
01:02:285 (1,2,3,4) - remove 4, make 3 slider like the ones after
01:05:162 - undermap, could put as circle here to make a cool spaced triple into slider
01:07:368 (1) - break starts too soon, 01:08:074 - feels more natural. Put a stream in there
01:13:633 (1,2,3,4) - would be more impactful if they were farther away from each other
01:18:751 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - stream too long, the slider should start where 8 is
01:26:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - change it, stream is overmapped while the slider ignores 1/4 sounds
01:44:222 - either map all 4 beats or just 1 and 3 but 1,2,3 without 4 is strange
01:47:012 - ^
01:49:803 - ^
01:52:594 - ^
01:54:861 (1,2,3) - ^
01:57:652 (1,2,3) - ^
02:00:443 (1,2,3) - ^
02:01:140 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - confusing for no reason
02:04:018 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - feels a bit strange that there is no change in spacing or a sharp turn
02:05:326 (1) - holy moly that's a big jump
02:06:722 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - bit too simple to my liking
02:09:076 - same as above, room for some interesting things in here
02:09:512 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - doesn't fit that well, there are interesting rhythms and the 1/2s aren't even all the same intensity
02:14:832 (6) - overmap
02:15:094 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - see those fit much better than squares
02:18:582 (1,2,3,1) - pls don't ignore those rhythms
02:20:414 - undermap, continuing a stream into a 1/4 jump like 02:05:326 (1) - would fit better

Honestly the map is pretty sweet. There are a few mistakes caused by the timing and it looks like you got a bit lazy at the end but the rest looks nice
Topic Starter
-Promise

hohol454 wrote:

Cool song

Dancing in Wonderland
Timing: what did you do :roll: . I'm not that great at timing but
771,379.746835443038,4,2,0,20,1,0
3808,348.837209302326,4,2,0,35,1,0
17761,352.941176470588,4,2,0,35,1,0
26231,348.837209302326,4,3,0,80,1,0
123903,352.941176470588,4,2,0,35,1,0
129550,348.837209302326,4,2,0,10,1,1

Should be all you need. The offsets probably aren't 100% correct but it's workable. You can convert the map to taiko in song setup to edit SV over 2x and then turn it back instead of using a 344bpm timing point

General: OD6 is too low

the map itself: A lot of these are just suggestions, especially in the first half

00:10:784 (1) - rotate 90 degrees
00:11:918 (9) - overmapped
00:15:668 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you could make it 5 note sliderstream and then make the next slider a triple like this
00:34:867 (2,3) - pretty evil
00:45:359 (5) - could make into 1/8 sliders, also the undermap where 8 would be is a bit strange
00:45:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you got bamboozled by your timing, move everything 1/8 later
00:51:228 - again undermap
00:53:370 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 1 note too many in the stream, caused by timing again
00:56:799 - undermap
00:59:628 - ^
01:02:285 (1,2,3,4) - remove 4, make 3 slider like the ones after
01:05:162 - undermap, could put as circle here to make a cool spaced triple into slider
01:07:368 (1) - break starts too soon, 01:08:074 - feels more natural. Put a stream in there
01:13:633 (1,2,3,4) - would be more impactful if they were farther away from each other
01:18:751 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - stream too long, the slider should start where 8 is
01:26:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - change it, stream is overmapped while the slider ignores 1/4 sounds
01:44:222 - either map all 4 beats or just 1 and 3 but 1,2,3 without 4 is strange
01:47:012 - ^
01:49:803 - ^
01:52:594 - ^
01:54:861 (1,2,3) - ^
01:57:652 (1,2,3) - ^
02:00:443 (1,2,3) - ^
02:01:140 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - confusing for no reason
02:04:018 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - feels a bit strange that there is no change in spacing or a sharp turn
02:05:326 (1) - holy moly that's a big jump
02:06:722 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - bit too simple to my liking
02:09:076 - same as above, room for some interesting things in here
02:09:512 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - doesn't fit that well, there are interesting rhythms and the 1/2s aren't even all the same intensity
02:14:832 (6) - overmap
02:15:094 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - see those fit much better than squares
02:18:582 (1,2,3,1) - pls don't ignore those rhythms
02:20:414 - undermap, continuing a stream into a 1/4 jump like 02:05:326 (1) - would fit better

Honestly the map is pretty sweet. There are a few mistakes caused by the timing and it looks like you got a bit lazy at the end but the rest looks nice
All done, changing the BPM change to SV change would mean re-mapping the entire chorus. I'll do that whenever I have more time.
hohol454

-Fluffy wrote:

changing the BPM change to SV change would mean re-mapping the entire chorus. I'll do that whenever I have more time.
You only have to remap the 173 and 175bpm parts because of slider lengths. The rest is just resnapping. If you double the SV of every green line in the 344bpm part it will stay exactly the same with new timing (x2,5 on 344 is the same as x1,25 on 172 etc.)
I would start with doubling the SV in 344bpm part, then apply the timing and manually resnap everything (including inherited timing points) and then check AI mod and fix unsnapped sliderends from the 173,175-172 bpm change/stuff you missed while resnapping
Topic Starter
-Promise

hohol454 wrote:

-Fluffy wrote:

changing the BPM change to SV change would mean re-mapping the entire chorus. I'll do that whenever I have more time.
You only have to remap the 173 and 175bpm parts because of slider lengths. The rest is just resnapping. If you double the SV of every green line in the 344bpm part it will stay exactly the same with new timing (x2,5 on 344 is the same as x1,25 on 172 etc.)
I would start with doubling the SV in 344bpm part, then apply the timing and manually resnap everything (including inherited timing points) and then check AI mod and fix unsnapped sliderends from the 173,175-172 bpm change/stuff you missed while resnapping
Done :D
Stack
Oops, completely forgot about this M4M I still had to do, sorry

Dancing in wonderland
00:00:771 (1) - This shape feels a bit too curved, maybe straighten it out a little bit so it looks better

00:03:808 (1) - It's good that you spaced this more so it has more emphasis but I would still recommend significantly changing the pattern you are using here as the music speeds up but the patterns stay the same. Like the sound between these 2 notes on the blue tick 00:04:853 (3,4) - is pretty loud so you can map a triple here, Search for more sounds to map here or tone the start down even more (I wouldn't recommend that as it's pretty slow already)

Change you timing point offset on 5:116 to to 5:203 so you are mapping on the white ticks and not on the blue ticks


00:07:645 (7,9) - try to avoid overlap more, I'll timestamp enough spots so you know where to fix it
  • 00:08:342 (1,3) -
    00:12:005 (9,3) - maybe
    00:14:098 (1,3) -
    00:14:621 (3,1) - You can stack these instead of trying to move them to a different spot
    00:15:493 (2,5) -
    00:15:668 (3,4,1) -
    00:22:526 (6,2) -
    etc, they aren't hard to find
00:14:272 (2) - You apparently really like this shape, I still think it's way too curved and also used too often, try to connect a slider shape to a certain aound and every time that sound comes up place down that slider. Right now you are using this shape for way too much

00:22:699 (7,1) - Space this more as 00:22:872 (1,2,3) - need way more impact

00:24:086 (9,1) - ^, there is also a lot of overlap here

00:28:962 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is quite the reading challenge you have here

00:45:098 (2) - There is no sound on this note

00:45:358 (5,6) - There is a 1/8 between these notes

01:02:112 (5,1) - The way you spaced this is not enough to signify a 1/2 gap, people will just keep streaming so put these notes further apart

01:27:652 (7) - A long slider does not fit as there are a lot of sounds in the latter half of the slider

01:28:873 (10,1) - Overlap like this important to avoid

01:31:838 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1) - Another insane reading challenge that not many will ever hit

01:39:512 (1) - A spinner fits better for a sound that keeps increasing

01:43:698 (1,2,3,4) - Don't stack these, make some jumps

Put some sliders in this part as there are too many circles

02:04:018 (1) - Starting here, I don't think the sound is loud enough to support a stream

02:05:238 (5,1) - Too much spacing, even if you want emphasis

02:06:722 (1,2) - and 02:07:070 (4,1) - same distance but different timing gaps, make this very hard to read correctly if you don't know the song

02:11:082 (2,3) - You can probably use a triple into a slider here as there is a sound between these 2 notes

02:12:826 (4) - You can start a stream here

02:18:931 (3,1,1) - almost the same spacing but different timing gaps

Gl with the map and sorry you had to wait so long on this mod :)
Topic Starter
-Promise

gottagof4ast wrote:

Oops, completely forgot about this M4M I still had to do, sorry

Dancing in wonderland
00:00:771 (1) - This shape feels a bit too curved, maybe straighten it out a little bit so it looks better My mapping style.

00:03:808 (1) - It's good that you spaced this more so it has more emphasis but I would still recommend significantly changing the pattern you are using here as the music speeds up but the patterns stay the same. Like the sound between these 2 notes on the blue tick 00:04:853 (3,4) - is pretty loud so you can map a triple here, Search for more sounds to map here or tone the start down even more (I wouldn't recommend that as it's pretty slow already) Fixed.

Change you timing point offset on 5:116 to to 5:203 so you are mapping on the white ticks and not on the blue ticksLiterally no difference,
but fixed.



00:07:645 (7,9) - try to avoid overlap more, I'll timestamp enough spots so you know where to fix it
  • 00:08:342 (1,3) -
    00:12:005 (9,3) - maybe
    00:14:098 (1,3) -
    00:14:621 (3,1) - You can stack these instead of trying to move them to a different spot
    00:15:493 (2,5) -
    00:15:668 (3,4,1) -
    00:22:526 (6,2) -
    etc, they aren't hard to find
Fixedéchecked and left
My mapping style.
00:14:272 (2) - You apparently really like this shape, I still think it's way too curved and also used too often, try to connect a slider shape to a certain aound and every time that sound comes up place down that slider. Right now you are using this shape for way too muchMy mapping style.

00:22:699 (7,1) - Space this more as 00:22:872 (1,2,3) - need way more impact Fixed

00:24:086 (9,1) - ^, there is also a lot of overlap here My mapping style.

00:28:962 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is quite the reading challenge you have here Its fun`, and on purpose.

00:45:098 (2) - There is no sound on this note There is.

00:45:358 (5,6) - There is a 1/8 between these notes Makes it awkward to play if i put it there.

01:02:112 (5,1) - The way you spaced this is not enough to signify a 1/2 gap, people will just keep streaming so put these notes further apart Fixed

01:27:652 (7) - A long slider does not fit as there are a lot of sounds in the latter half of the sliderFixed

01:28:873 (10,1) - Overlap like this important to avoid My mapping style.

01:31:838 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1) - Another insane reading challenge that not many will ever hit Fun.

01:39:512 (1) - A spinner fits better for a sound that keeps increasing Fixed

01:43:698 (1,2,3,4) - Don't stack these, make some jumps Fixed

Put some sliders in this part as there are too many circles Fixed

02:04:018 (1) - Starting here, I don't think the sound is loud enough to support a stream Fixed

02:05:238 (5,1) - Too much spacing, even if you want emphasis Fixed

02:06:722 (1,2) - and 02:07:070 (4,1) - same distance but different timing gaps, make this very hard to read correctly if you don't know the song Fixed

02:11:082 (2,3) - You can probably use a triple into a slider here as there is a sound between these 2 notes Meh.

02:12:826 (4) - You can start a stream here Nah. Squares.

02:18:931 (3,1,1) - almost the same spacing but different timing gapsFixed

Gl with the map and sorry you had to wait so long on this mod :)
Mr HeliX


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