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Miku Sawai - Colorful. (AnimeVer.) [Osu|OsuMania|CatchTheBea

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Nichiyouki
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Joined August 2011
Nichiyouki

Garden wrote:

Nich's Hard:
00:08:038 (4) - missing hitsounding on the slider? added some hitsounds in head and tail of slider.
00:47:744 - remove the soft finish on the blue tick i guess removed

thank you for mod :3
my diff
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: optc.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 0
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Colorful. (AnimeVer.)
TitleUnicode:カラフル。（AnimeVer.）
Artist:Miku Sawai
ArtistUnicode:沢井美空
Creator:Shad0w1and
Version:Nich's Hard
Source:冴えない彼女の育てかた
Tags:Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Saekano PinkHeart imoutosan Nichiyouki nich95 Muu-chan Ascendance
BeatmapID:1241714
BeatmapSetID:586296

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5.5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6.5
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.63
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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0,0,"BG1.jpg",0,0
Video,0,"optc.flv"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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332,208,75882,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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108,204,79019,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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280,300,80391,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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Shad0w1and
1,588 posts
Joined April 2011
Topic Starter
Shad0w1and

Tofu1222 wrote:

4K: 1|2|3|4


[HD]
  1. 00:00:489 (489|2,685|1) - Better delete them as they make here too hard for a HD. Then you may move 00:00:587 (587|0) - to col3 and 00:00:784 (784|2) - to col2 to rearrange. :arrow: its really easy to play for a new player like me lol
  2. 00:05:489 - Double note is enough here.
  3. 00:07:058 (7058|1,7058|0,7254|2,7450|1,7450|0,7646|2,7842|0,7842|1) - Can you rearrange a bit to make it more varied?
  4. 00:10:587 (10587|0,10784|1,10784|3) - 00:12:156 (12156|2,12352|3,12352|0) - These two patterns should be reversed, which means the single notes place should be double notes and vice versa, because it is obvious that the earlier drums sound heavier than the latter ones.
  5. 00:13:725 - Need a double for the drum.
  6. 00:15:293 (15293|1,15489|0,15489|2) - 00:16:862 (16862|2,17058|1,17058|3) - 00:19:999 (19999|1,20195|0,20195|2) - The same suggestion as for 00:10:587 (10587|0,10784|1,10784|3) -
  7. 00:23:136 (23136|0,23333|2,23333|3) - 00:24:705 (24705|1,24901|0,24901|2) - 00:27:842 (27842|3,28038|3,28038|1) - 00:30:980 (30980|3,31176|1,31176|2) - 00:32:548 (32548|3,32744|2,32744|0) - ^
  8. 00:24:117 (24117|2) - Why not move this to col2 and 00:24:313 (24313|1) - to col4 for an easier pattern without a stack?
  9. 00:29:607 (29607|1,29607|2) - This should be a single note compared to 00:29:411 (29411|0,29411|3) - .
  10. 00:31:960 (31960|3,32058|2) - Well they are just very light hihats so I prefer not to map them here. Better delete them.
  11. 00:34:509 - It's the same drum as 00:34:313 (34313|2,34411|3,34803|3,34901|2) - these you put with single notes so just leave it as a single note too.
  12. 00:36:470 (36470|3) - Move to col3 for balance.
  13. 00:38:038 (38038|1) - Ghost note. :arrow: I was told follow vocal beats is acceptable, since its a anime song. I think leave this empty is kinda weird to play. would like to keep unless you insist.
  14. 00:40:882 (40882|2,40980|1,41176|1,41274|2) - Too too too weak sounds I don't really recommend mapping them. Just leave main drums there. Then 00:40:784 - here you can have a double for C. :arrow: its pretty strong, especially when you consider the similar rhythm at 00:47:058 - , I would like to keep, otherwise the vocal beats and the drum beat at 00:41:078 - will confuse players even more. I added the double for the snare tho
  15. 00:45:489 (45489|1) - Move to col3 to avoid the stack.
  16. 00:45:685 (45685|0) - Ghost note. :arrow: keep for vocal, unless you insist anyways.
  17. 00:47:058 (47058|0,47058|3,47156|1,47254|2,47352|3,47450|0,47548|1,47646|2,47744|3) - Could have some varied patterns as the drums are different but it depends on you. :arrow: well I made varied patterns on other places, this place will keep
  18. 00:48:823 (48823|0,48823|3,49019|1) - Single -> double and double -> single.
  19. 00:52:156 - Double note.
  20. 00:56:078 - 00:56:862 - ^
  21. 00:59:215 - 00:59:999 - ^
  22. 01:06:470 - No drum here so single note is enough.
  23. 01:08:234 - 01:09:803 - No need to make triple notes here at all.
  24. 01:11:372 (71372|1) - Move to col1 for balance.
  25. 01:11:764 (71764|1,71764|3,71960|2,71960|0,72156|3,72352|0,72352|1,72548|3,72548|2) - Might wanna focus on drums instead of vocals since your kiai here mainly focuses on drums in all.
  26. 01:24:509 - Single note is enough.
  27. 01:24:705 - Instead I suggest a double note here.
  28. 01:27:058 (87058|3,87646|0) - It is weird to have these two vocals as LNs but not the others. Better leave them as normal note too for consistency.

Garden wrote:

General:
you might wanna add 'ending tvsize' to tags
offset seems a bit early to me (like 3-4ms from my testplay results), better get some others' opinions about it :arrow: changed mp3 to fix the offset

imoutosan's Normal:
missing video
00:46:078 (4,5) - 00:52:941 (4,1) - 01:11:372 (1,2) - spacing
01:23:921 (1) - what about https://puu.sh/ztd3n/8e11b56de8.png ? weird that it's the only 1/1 stack in the whole chorus

Advanced:
00:47:058 (3,4) - 01:24:705 (3,4) - change to 1/4 reversed sliders like 00:33:921 (1) - etc. ? :arrow: no because that part I was trying to present 1/4 triplets with 1/2 break, but if i present 1/4 stream, the 1/4 break will be too hard for advanced imo

Insane: Kanou Meguri:
00:43:921 (1,2,3) - visual spacing is way too similar to those 1/2 gaps in this section, I would suggest making them stand out more :arrow: that was actually intentional, as you can see 00:42:940 (1,2) - I used NC patterns to make this part a reading-heavy section for players
01:12:940 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ similar point, ez misread from the spacing :arrow: this is fine as the clickable distance is enough for players to understand the rhythm. the object distance play less role here

Insane: Katou Megumi:
01:14:411 (4,1) - visual stream spacing is actually off here cuz sv changes

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get other modes confirmed and I can nominate!
Nich's diff updated
Muu-chan
1,605 posts
Joined August 2014
Muu-chan
LETS GO! I'm sorry for everything ;-;
irc
2018-03-20 00:05 Muu-chan: hello there
2018-03-20 00:06 Muu-chan: can we do irc instead of checking the mod in the forum ? :/
2018-03-20 00:10 Tofu1222: yes you can
2018-03-20 00:10 Muu-chan: okay please
2018-03-20 00:13 Tofu1222: hmm
2018-03-20 00:14 Tofu1222: i guess it's basically like the same thing as the post gets lol
2018-03-20 00:14 Muu-chan: welp
2018-03-20 00:14 Muu-chan: is it a lot?
2018-03-20 00:14 Tofu1222: not a lot i think
2018-03-20 00:14 Muu-chan: welp
2018-03-20 00:14 Tofu1222: are you doing hitsounds or shadow is doing?
2018-03-20 00:15 Tofu1222: well, you can just briefly reply
2018-03-20 00:15 Muu-chan: i really prefer shadow
2018-03-20 00:15 Muu-chan: im not good at hs
2018-03-20 00:15 Tofu1222: hopefully he has corrected the hitsounds xd
2018-03-20 00:15 Tofu1222: anyway, the mods are just click and see
2018-03-20 00:15 Tofu1222: not lengthy
2018-03-20 00:15 Muu-chan: also i don't feel like to type the reply
2018-03-20 00:15 Muu-chan: ;-;
2018-03-20 00:16 Muu-chan: i just feel like we do instant, okay yes or no
2018-03-20 00:16 Muu-chan: :/ rip me
2018-03-20 00:16 Tofu1222: ofc you can
2018-03-20 00:16 Tofu1222: like answer which of those you applied
2018-03-20 00:17 Muu-chan: can we do in irc? please :/
2018-03-20 00:17 Muu-chan: so i'll just send the updated one to shadow later
2018-03-20 00:17 Muu-chan: aaaa
2018-03-20 00:17 Muu-chan: :/
2018-03-20 00:17 Tofu1222: if you dont mind, i can copy paste things from the thread now
2018-03-20 00:17 Muu-chan: yaaa please
2018-03-20 00:17 Muu-chan: ><
2018-03-20 00:18 Tofu1222: 00:01:176 - 00:01:960 - 00:02:744 - 00:03:529 - etc. till 00:07:842 - For such noticeable drums I suggest double notes and it won't be too hard but can help with gaps between NM and HD.
2018-03-20 00:18 Muu-chan: that is much better
2018-03-20 00:18 Tofu1222: 00:10:587 - 00:11:372 - 00:12:156 - 00:12:940 - Basically my previous mods still apply here until 00:35:293 - since this part looks really too easy as a NM.
2018-03-20 00:18 Muu-chan: a sec
2018-03-20 00:18 Tofu1222: haha you mean this that's fine owo
2018-03-20 00:18 Muu-chan: point by point
2018-03-20 00:18 Muu-chan: :D
2018-03-20 00:18 Tofu1222: they are linked points xd
2018-03-20 00:18 Muu-chan: im just too lazy ;-;
2018-03-20 00:18 Muu-chan: gimme secs
2018-03-20 00:18 Tofu1222: it's ok
2018-03-20 00:18 Muu-chan: it is for nm diff right?
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan:  i would keep that one
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: okay next please :D
2018-03-20 00:20 Tofu1222: keep the whole?
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: yup
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: i hope you don't mind ;-;
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: this is what i don't really like
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: when i reject some mods ;-;
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: i would make sad them
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: asdf
2018-03-20 00:20 Muu-chan: ;-;
2018-03-20 00:20 Tofu1222: i know
2018-03-20 00:21 Muu-chan: sorry ;-;
2018-03-20 00:21 Tofu1222: but the thing is
2018-03-20 00:21 Tofu1222: the spread is a bit questionable
2018-03-20 00:21 Tofu1222: like the gap between NM and HD is a bit big now
2018-03-20 00:21 Muu-chan: um i see
2018-03-20 00:21 Muu-chan: hd add the 1/4
2018-03-20 00:22 Muu-chan: sec let me give a try
2018-03-20 00:22 Tofu1222: ok xd
2018-03-20 00:22 Tofu1222: it wont be hard
2018-03-20 00:27 Tofu1222: fixed?
2018-03-20 00:27 Tofu1222: 00:34:411 - As what you did for other drums in this bar, you need a note here.
2018-03-20 00:27 Muu-chan: sec
2018-03-20 00:27 Muu-chan: haha
2018-03-20 00:27 Tofu1222: ok
2018-03-20 00:27 Muu-chan: are you in rush?
2018-03-20 00:28 Tofu1222: cuz it's a bit late lul. but well i am ok with that
2018-03-20 00:28 Muu-chan: sorry ;-;
2018-03-20 00:29 Tofu1222: it's ok, dont worry
2018-03-20 00:31 Muu-chan: aaaa
2018-03-20 00:31 Muu-chan: i think i would keep them all for the clap thing
2018-03-20 00:31 Muu-chan: asdf
2018-03-20 00:31 Muu-chan: too many and would make it really hard for nm
2018-03-20 00:32 Muu-chan: i'll do double for additional cymbal sound
2018-03-20 00:32 Muu-chan: for the third point, fixed :D
2018-03-20 00:33 Tofu1222: thats ok
2018-03-20 00:33 Muu-chan: 00:34:411 - added here
2018-03-20 00:33 Muu-chan: okie next :D
2018-03-20 00:33 Tofu1222: 01:27:254 (87254|1) -  I don't see any new vocal here so maybe delete this note.
2018-03-20 00:34 Muu-chan: it is for the pitch i guess
2018-03-20 00:34 Muu-chan: since she gives some vibrate thingy
2018-03-20 00:34 Muu-chan: also
2018-03-20 00:34 Muu-chan: should i change this to ln?
2018-03-20 00:34 Muu-chan: 01:27:254 (87254|1) - 
2018-03-20 00:34 Muu-chan: but i'm afraid the ended time would be different w/ other diff
2018-03-20 00:34 Tofu1222: dont need to imo
2018-03-20 00:35 Muu-chan: okayy
2018-03-20 00:35 Muu-chan: else
2018-03-20 00:35 Muu-chan: should i follow the vocal thingy from here?
2018-03-20 00:35 Tofu1222: 00:08:431 (8431|3,8823|1) - It is inconsistent for you to use different lengths of LNs for the same sounds here. Better extend 00:08:431 (8431|3) - to 00:08:627 - .
2018-03-20 00:35 Tofu1222: now is the highest diff
2018-03-20 00:35 Muu-chan: 01:27:254 (87254|1) - 
2018-03-20 00:35 Muu-chan: okaay wait
2018-03-20 00:36 Tofu1222: i think the current pattern at end is good
2018-03-20 00:36 Muu-chan: okay, so no need to start the vocal thingy from there?
2018-03-20 00:36 Tofu1222: ye
2018-03-20 00:36 Muu-chan: okai
2018-03-20 00:36 Muu-chan: okay next diff
2018-03-20 00:36 Muu-chan: i forgot my part asdf
2018-03-20 00:37 Tofu1222: 00:12:058 (12058|2) - 00:13:627 (13627|0) - 00:17:352 (17352|2) - 00:18:333 (18333|3) - 00:19:901 (19901|3) -  00:25:784 (25784|2) - 00:25:784 (25784|2) - 00:27:744 (27744|1) - 00:32:058 (32058|1) - 00:32:450 (32450|1) - I do have concerns with these notes cuz the sounds are barely heard compared to other places where you use single notes for the hihats. I would say they are ghost notes for me but you may double check them to make sure you are no... (message truncated)
2018-03-20 00:37 Muu-chan: waaaait
2018-03-20 00:37 Tofu1222: shadow said you can just change his part
2018-03-20 00:37 Muu-chan: oh really?
2018-03-20 00:38 Tofu1222: yes
2018-03-20 00:38 Muu-chan: wait still re checking nm diff
2018-03-20 00:38 Tofu1222: oh ok
2018-03-20 00:38 Muu-chan: okaay lets go
2018-03-20 00:40 Muu-chan: it is different lenght imo, so i would keep that
2018-03-20 00:40 Muu-chan: the first one is way shorter than the 2nd one
2018-03-20 00:41 Tofu1222: not really as i heard lul
2018-03-20 00:41 Muu-chan: and for 2nd mod, i think the chat's character are limited
2018-03-20 00:41 Tofu1222: the first one ends at 00:08:627 -
2018-03-20 00:42 Muu-chan: xD
2018-03-20 00:42 Tofu1222: i know that
2018-03-20 00:42 Tofu1222: but ghost notes will be definitely counted as an issue tbh
2018-03-20 00:42 Muu-chan: im sure that is shadow's part
2018-03-20 00:42 Muu-chan: lemme recheck xd
2018-03-20 00:43 Muu-chan: or it is mine hahaha
2018-03-20 00:43 Muu-chan: secss
2018-03-20 00:44 Muu-chan: 00:12:058 (12058|2) - slightly there's a kick there
2018-03-20 00:44 Muu-chan: secs
2018-03-20 00:44 Muu-chan: 00:13:627 (13627|0) - same
2018-03-20 00:46 Muu-chan: i'll try to fix it too, wait xD
2018-03-20 00:53 Muu-chan: okaay next :3
2018-03-20 00:54 Muu-chan: i'm not really change that a lot tbh
2018-03-20 00:54 Muu-chan: hww
2018-03-20 00:54 Tofu1222: its ok
2018-03-20 00:54 Tofu1222: 00:43:627 (43627|0) - What's this for?
2018-03-20 00:54 Tofu1222: well i heard it now fuck
2018-03-20 00:55 Muu-chan: xD
2018-03-20 00:55 Muu-chan: secs
2018-03-20 00:55 Tofu1222: i should be tired at that time when moddin this
2018-03-20 00:55 Tofu1222: 01:00:914 (60914|0,60980|1,61045|2,61110|1,61176|0,61176|3,61241|2,61306|1,61372|2,61437|3,61437|0,61502|1,61568|3,61568|0) - This pattern indeed is way too hard because the direction of the rolls change too much. Might wanna do something easier like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10341136
2018-03-20 00:56 Muu-chan: wwoo dat pattern
2018-03-20 00:56 Muu-chan: i think it is mine
2018-03-20 00:56 Muu-chan: haha wait a secs
2018-03-20 00:58 Muu-chan: okay applied :D
2018-03-20 00:58 Muu-chan: i think it is shadow's, so it is fine :D
2018-03-20 00:58 Muu-chan: sec lemme edit it
2018-03-20 00:59 Tofu1222: 01:02:842 (62842|1) - 01:05:784 (65784|2) - They are ghost notes as I hear.
2018-03-20 00:59 Muu-chan: is it 1/6 btw?
2018-03-20 00:59 Tofu1222: 01:10:293 (70293|0) - ^
2018-03-20 00:59 Tofu1222: yes
2018-03-20 00:59 Muu-chan: okaay
2018-03-20 01:02 Muu-chan: deleted them :D
2018-03-20 01:02 Muu-chan: and changes some placement for sure
2018-03-20 01:02 Muu-chan: okay go ahead pls :D
2018-03-20 01:03 Muu-chan: the hd diff too ? :o
2018-03-20 01:03 Tofu1222: 01:12:744 (72744|1,72842|2) - They are heavy snares so maybe double one or both of them?
2018-03-20 01:04 Muu-chan: oh yea, added
2018-03-20 01:05 Tofu1222: should be all i think
2018-03-20 01:05 Muu-chan: yay
2018-03-20 01:05 Muu-chan: okay thank you so much tofu ><
2018-03-20 01:05 Tofu1222: give to shadow then
2018-03-20 01:05 Tofu1222: no prob ><
2018-03-20 01:05 Muu-chan: i'll post this to forum and give the updated one to shadow

http://puu.sh/zL6kr/3ccb88dd2b.rar
http://puu.sh/zL6jm/af95afbb56.rar
Shima Rin
1,304 posts
Joined March 2015
Shima Rin
Chat Log
17:24 Tofu1222: 那啥
17:24 Tofu1222: 要不然我还是现在check掉吧 你可有空 还是困了？
17:25 Shad0w1and: lol
17:25 Shad0w1and: 我应该没啥动的了吧（
17:25 Tofu1222: 基本很少
17:25 Tofu1222: MX: 00:25:784 (25784|2) - 
17:25 Shad0w1and: 你直接改了发我？ lol
17:25 Tofu1222: 删一下这个
17:25 Tofu1222: 我觉得你改比较容易些
17:26 Tofu1222: 就是删删加加的
17:26 Shad0w1and: hao
17:27 Tofu1222: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10528663 从00:49:411 - 稍微这么改一下
17:29 Shad0w1and: hao
17:29 Tofu1222: 01:03:431 (63431|1) - 删掉这个  01:03:333 (63333|2) - 这个移到最右边column
17:30 Shad0w1and: en
17:30 Tofu1222: 01:04:999 (64999|1) - delete
17:31 Tofu1222: 解释一下 这些音在旋律里出现次数很多 但是只在这里抓我觉得没必要 不如delete 而其他的1/4在kiai都要不然有鼓 要不然有人声的支持 都是比较特殊的部分 所以值得抓
17:32 Shad0w1and: hao
17:32 Tofu1222: MX就OK了 我觉得很好现在
17:33 Tofu1222: OK NM看上去难度也没什么大问题 spread我觉得我本人可以接受 还算很理想

Mania diffs look good now. Call me when the other two modes are checked owo)b
Electoz
1,886 posts
Joined May 2015
Electoz
yo I'm late gomenasai

[Shad0wdance's Rain: Kasumigaoka Utaha]

  1. 00:00:784 (1) - Wish spacing on this could be bigger than 00:00:294 (4,5,6) -
  2. 00:18:038 (1) - placing objects near the border kills the flow though zz + this doesn't deserve this much spacing tbh, don't think there's anything to emphasize here
  3. 00:20:195 (4) - And this should be spaced more for vocal like 00:33:529 (5) -
  4. 01:01:437 (2,3) - Should be separated from 01:01:567 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - cuz technically speaking current pattern is emphasizing 01:01:437 (2) - instead of 01:01:567 (4) - which the latter is a lot more prominent
ctb diff is ok
Shad0w1and
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[Shad0wdance's Rain: Kasumigaoka Utaha]

  1. 00:00:784 (1) - Wish spacing on this could be bigger than 00:00:294 (4,5,6) -
  2. 00:18:038 (1) - placing objects near the border kills the flow though zz + this doesn't deserve this much spacing tbh, don't think there's anything to emphasize here
  3. 00:20:195 (4) - And this should be spaced more for vocal like 00:33:529 (5) -
  4. 01:01:437 (2,3) - Should be separated from 01:01:567 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - cuz technically speaking current pattern is emphasizing 01:01:437 (2) - instead of 01:01:567 (4) - which the latter is a lot more prominent
ctb diff is ok
00:18:038 (1) - ascendance said here the strong vocal deserves the h dash, so will keep
other all fixed
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Shad0w1and
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么么哒
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Take care!
Crumpey
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Grats on the qual, love the song, one part of this will always trigger me

SPOILER


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FLIP THE IMAGE PLEASE

the only bg that looks awful in songselect

good map tho from the looks
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I like the background the way its placed 8-) 8-) 8-)
Crumpey
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Your just sadistic
Garalulu
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[Muu's NM]
  1. 01:16:666 - 01:16:862 - there is only 1/4 note here unlike other diffs. I think it has not any reason to add this, it's not same with 01:20:685 - 01:12:842 - (for strong drum) and etc.
  2. 01:12:940 - You can add one note more here, it has finish sound as what you put double for it, or you can just add W hitsound. (only this part has not double when F and W are appeared at the same time.)
Shad0w1and
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I don't see it as a problem personally. idk if muu will want to fix that.
Garalulu
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Shad0w1and wrote:

I don't see it as a problem personally. idk if muu will want to fix that.
Only normal diff has one note, even last diff has not. There is not any intention, no heavy drum or melody line. I think that is a mistake when he was doing copy paste the last chorus. It's obviously a problem tho?
Shad0w1and
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Garalulu wrote:

Shad0w1and wrote:

I don't see it as a problem personally. idk if muu will want to fix that.
Only normal diff has one note, even last diff has not. There is not any intention, no heavy drum or melody line. I think that is a mistake when he was doing copy paste. It's obviously a problem tho?
uhmmmm in std its not a unrankable problem but yeah idk much about mania and idk if muu will see it as a problem :/
his seems busy these days and idk if he will have time check this :x
Protastic101
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Up to the muu whether or not they want to fix this, but if you do, I'd also like to point out that 01:09:705 - is present in the HD but not the NM despite the NM having consistently mapped the 1/4 triplets for the percussion.

Quick little note as well, I feel like the jump in spread from NM to HD may be a bit large at certain points, mostly transitions involving 1/4 bursts cause the NM goes from 1/1 to 1/4 without much in between to serve as a precursor. Some examples
00:03:038 - 00:06:274 -

00:21:176 -

00:40:784 - 00:47:058 - 01:24:705 - Bit of a rougher area which is what concerns me most is a 1/1 to 1/4 jump
01:12:940 - Sort of similar to the above but not quite. There's some 1/4 triplet use which is already introduced in the normal, but I just feel like using an LN in the NM kind of underrepresents the percussion that's leading into the second chorus.

Regardless, I think the way the map is currently is fine, but there are a few small things that could be improved, but not enough to really make that big of a difference.
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If this is dqd consider flipping the bg for me ;3 <3
Feerum
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Hello everyone.

I'm here to take the Mapset down. Muu-chan did not reply yet to the Mods of Lulu and Prot and i want to give her more time for it before it get's ranked soon.
However, i looked into the Mods and i find the point's which got raised valid.

I also will drop a Mod for the Normal difficulty soon (within the next 24h). It's just pretty late right now.

Disqualified for now
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Add an easy diff pls ;w;
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Hello! Here i am again!

Like i said, 24h later. Okay let's get right into it

[Muu's NM]

Okay so my complain goes from 01:01:960 - to 01:24:705 - . Basically the whole kiai section.

My problem is that it is mapped incredibly monotonous. It's all the time 1/2 spam with some 1/4 pattern between. You seem to not pay focus on any kind of emphasis. I have the feeling that you run out of ideas.

I would like to give some suggestions how to improve the section to make it more exciting. To give it more the feeling like actually playing the music.

Let's start here. 01:04:705 - The vocals give you the perfect opportunity to bring in some kind of variety after already some sec of 1/2 spam. Why not trying something like
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The LNs follow the vocal's pretty good, i intentionally put them as 1-2-3 and 2-3-4 because the vocal has pretty much the same pitch. Which give a better feeling while playing them.

01:09:999 - Removing this Note give the player a little break. The singer takes here a breath and the next note, means 01:10:195 (70195|3) - is a very lout snare. By removing this you also put more emphasis on exactly this note which flows really good with the next 1-2-3-4 pattern.

01:11:175 - Here's the next suggestion:
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Another LN suggestion (It's hard to put variety just with single notes).
However, the LNs represent the long vocal sounds and i intentionally didn't put 1/2 notes while hold to keep the full emphasis on the vocal. The Notes at 01:11:764 - , 01:12:352 - and 01:12:548 - are for the short vocal which have a strong instrument in them, like kick and snare. The last one are also intentionally as 1-4 notes to put more emphasis on the difference between kick and snare (Which is also missing in your whole kiai)

Okay, the same suggestion apply for the second Kiai since it's only repeating itself. I highly recommend you to consider these suggestion because, as simple your Normal may be mapped.. it's also pretty monotonous. The part's before the kiai look "kinda" okay, even when it's mostly the same too. You have breaks which put at least some emphasis on vocal/instruments.

Let me know what you think about this because i think with some help this can be a pretty cool difficulty!
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Garalulu wrote:

[Muu's NM]
  1. 01:16:666 - 01:16:862 - there is only 1/4 note here unlike other diffs. I think it has not any reason to add this, it's not same with 01:20:685 - 01:12:842 - (for strong drum) and etc. yay my bad, removed.
  2. 01:12:940 - You can add one note more here, it has finish sound as what you put double for it, or you can just add W hitsound. (only this part has not double when F and W are appeared at the same time.)added :D

Feerum wrote:

Hello! Here i am again! Sup feerum

Like i said, 24h later. Okay let's get right into it

[Muu's NM]

Okay so my complain goes from 01:01:960 - to 01:24:705 - . Basically the whole kiai section.

My problem is that it is mapped incredibly monotonous. It's all the time 1/2 spam with some 1/4 pattern between. You seem to not pay focus on any kind of emphasis. I have the feeling that you run out of ideas. Yay, i did a new pattern for the kiai bcs of that.

I would like to give some suggestions how to improve the section to make it more exciting. To give it more the feeling like actually playing the music.

Let's start here. 01:04:705 - The vocals give you the perfect opportunity to bring in some kind of variety after already some sec of 1/2 spam. Why not trying something like
Screen

The LNs follow the vocal's pretty good, i intentionally put them as 1-2-3 and 2-3-4 because the vocal has pretty much the same pitch. Which give a better feeling while playing them. Ok, got it! The pattern a bit different but still based to the pitch

01:09:999 - Removing this Note give the player a little break. The singer takes here a breath and the next note, means 01:10:195 (70195|3) - is a very lout snare. By removing this you also put more emphasis on exactly this note which flows really good with the next 1-2-3-4 pattern. I'll keep this cz the new kiai pattern

01:11:175 - Here's the next suggestion:
Screen

Another LN suggestion (It's hard to put variety just with single notes).
However, the LNs represent the long vocal sounds and i intentionally didn't put 1/2 notes while hold to keep the full emphasis on the vocal. The Notes at 01:11:764 - , 01:12:352 - and 01:12:548 - are for the short vocal which have a strong instrument in them, like kick and snare. The last one are also intentionally as 1-4 notes to put more emphasis on the difference between kick and snare (Which is also missing in your whole kiai) I'll keep this cz the new kiai pattern

Okay, the same suggestion apply for the second Kiai since it's only repeating itself. I highly recommend you to consider these suggestion because, as simple your Normal may be mapped.. it's also pretty monotonous. The part's before the kiai look "kinda" okay, even when it's mostly the same too. You have breaks which put at least some emphasis on vocal/instruments.

Let me know what you think about this because i think with some help this can be a pretty cool difficulty!
Thank you so much^^ Hope you guys enjoy it.
http://puu.sh/zY5lf/8aedf13867.rar
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updated
someone please give this post kd : p/6561560
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[Muu's NM]
  1. 01:20:784 - Double note is not needed here. Single note is enough because no F is here, just like 01:23:921 - .
Call me back.
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pkhg
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i get where the diffnaming comes from but calling the top diff "insane" is very misleading considering the difficulty elements included in the map (specially this pattern 00:21:176 (1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - ) so i think using extra/expert or any other custom diffname would be better to reflect the maps difficulty
the rc also states that spaced streams shouldnt be used in insane difficulties. i know it isnt a rule but its better having the difficulties labeled properly taking the difficulty elements in consideration
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pkhg wrote:

i get where the diffnaming comes from but calling the top diff "insane" is very misleading considering the difficulty elements included in the map (specially this pattern 00:21:176 (1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - ) so i think using extra/expert or any other custom diffname would be better to reflect the maps difficulty
the rc also states that spaced streams shouldnt be used in insane difficulties. i know it isnt a rule but its better having the difficulties labeled properly taking the difficulty elements in consideration
I do not think so. the Insane name reflected the actual difficulty of this map. As a touchscreen main player, I can almost FC the main diff with mouse in several tries, that explains it a bit.
as a comparison, my other map with similar BPM: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1545076&m=0, https://osu.ppy.sh/b/896898&m=0, I hardly have a chance to pass it with the mouse, not to mention to FC it. It is clear that all concepts in the top diff settled in a insane standard frame.
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Hitsounds are really quiet tbh, would make sense to increase it by 10-20% in general since feedback is quite minimal.
Katou insane is fine due to the use of drum samples, but the rest of the diffs are just too quiet tbh
Shad0w1and
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Sinnoh wrote:

Hitsounds are really quiet tbh, would make sense to increase it by 10-20% in general since feedback is quite minimal.
Katou insane is fine due to the use of drum samples, but the rest of the diffs are just too quiet tbh
I guess its about personal preference. katou was hitsounded by imoutousan so its a bit different. but i dont think mine is too quiet xd
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Calling top diff an Extra also seems like a silly idea to me though. Insane should be fine.

Hitsounds also don't seem unreasonable to me.
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