azerite no hitsugi
Thanks.Karen wrote:
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00:43:529 (4,5) - change to 1/1 slider? there is nothing on 00:43:703 - the slider head There is that light hi-hat sound there, so I'll keep it.
note for joker i went ahead and added the notes he suggested cause that was a good idea.Karen wrote:
Fate
why not ar9 cause i like edgy
01:36:419 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is the only pattern i want to complain about, the flow isn't so comfortable to play for me and 01:35:726 (3,4) - the overlap looks kinda ugly and lacks some aesthetics that you're used to use adjusted
00:38:847 - it's pretty subjective but i would follow the drum but it's up to you nahfam
01:38:847 (7,1) - this is too harsh because there is no pattern like this in other parts changed.
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01:55:495 (1) - remove nc k
looks like you didn't put much efforts on this diff xd, at least not as much as you put on the top diff wow rude but ya its true
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01:34:859 (1,2) - ds fix
00:40:755 - remove the green lines in the break time they are very fix
fake ayanenew diff name Fake
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Avoid spinners less than 4 beats. Players need time to recognize that they have to begin spinning.yea long slider would be better here, or just mapping normally until 01:22:026 -
no reply means applied as it isLasse wrote:
general
shouldn't this be half bpm judging from drums
add video to normal i forgot it lel
01:59:656 - slightly too loud imo. 14-20% would be cute following xexxar's judgement
e/n need higher drain, like +1 on both, or even +2 on normal, it's pretty low and hard is hp5 kk
normal
00:16:824 (5) - could just be a circle 1/2 slider seems a bit unfitting
00:49:078 (3) - just move this one pixel up cause it's quite edgy
01:30:003 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - gets so extremely dense, maybe remove 01:31:391 (5) - cause vocals?+
01:49:425 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - bit too long 1/2 chain for this part I think, just simplify it a little i decided to remove a circle on 01:51:333 - since i wanna follow melodies as possible.
01:57:055 (1) - whistle on end? following xexxar's judgement
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TitleUnicode:アズライトの棺
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Thanks.Lasse wrote:
general
01:59:656 - slightly too loud imo. 14-20% would be cute Sure, reduced volume.
01:39:714 (4,5,6,7,8) - should probably have whistles if it's supposed to emphasize background music stuff // 01:45:263 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same here // 01:56:188 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - and here These don't really apply to my diff since I mostly stick to the drums and don't have streams.
01:42:489 (4) -01:42:836 (5) - could have softw on head I don't think it fits with my current hitsounding scheme.
01:53:587 (6,7) - ^
hs stuff also applies to lower diffs
hard
00:22:026 - could have softw on spinnerend I don't think that's necessary or fitting here.
01:17:865 (4,5) - seems needlessly confusing, just space it like the antijumps before? you never really use this anywhere else I don't think it's confusing. There's a special placement here because this is an important transition to a more exciting part of the song. Tried increasing the distance a bit, but I still think the small distance looks and plays best.
01:56:188 (3,4,5) - whistles? Added a whistle on head of (5). I think doing all of them is a bit excessive.
01:57:142 (1) - all other diffs have whistle on sliderend here Spinner end?
I don't mind :>KaedekaShizuru wrote:
OK, wait me
我不会放过你,更不会原谅你,记住
Sorry, Little
Desperate-kun wrote:
The longstream section on the highest difficulty doesn't feel properly introduced, and it's overwhelming to play because its difficulty isn't matching the intensity of the section compared to how other sections of the song are mapped.
First of all, about the introduction of the stream. You're using lower spacing here 00:22:026 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - as a transition between almost nothing and a streamy section which is a good idea, however the stream continues with high spacing directly afterwards instead of there being a break (in form of sliders or something) between both segments, so the introduction actually makes getting into the stream part harder than it would be without it (because it just makes the already lengthy stream even longer). In my opinion you should either use a couple reversed sliders from here 00:22:720 - or change the introduction stream 00:22:026 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - to be sliders to make this a better transition.
Then secondly, the section itself feels too intense to play. This part is arguably not the most intense part of the song, since the drum roll in the background is rather calm. What I'd have expected is either a lot of short sliders instead of streams so the tapping follows mostly the other layers of the song besides the drum roll (similar to how you did it in Insane), or streams with significantly smaller spacing.
Another bummer are the huge jumps between sliders and the transitions to the streams that follow. 00:27:402 (1,2,3) - 00:30:870 (1,2,3) - 00:32:258 (1,2,3) - etc, the distances of these are comparable to 1/2-jumps in the chorus for example, but these slider jumps have even less leniency so they feel more difficult. Transitions from slider jumps to streams are very difficult to land well with large distance because it requires very precise landing and adjustment of movement speed within a short timeframe. The worst offenders here would be 00:27:576 (2,3) - 00:31:044 (2,3) - 00:31:737 (2,3) - and 00:33:125 (2,3) -.
I want the usage of sliders to be consistent in this part. Because I wanted to match 00:22:026 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - with 01:45:263 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i used the same idea of having a stream with a similar angle. During the initial death stream, it only really seems appropriate with either all circles or all sliders to me. Hence for why I decided to use all circles since this is the top difficulty and I believe this rhythmically fits. As for the spacing being too much, I find that to be silly because i wanted to highlight a build up onto 00:27:576 (2,3) - . 00:26:882 (2,3) - grows from 00:26:188 (2,3) - etc.
As for the second section, I felt that 00:31:044 (2,3) - was the most intense and began lowering spacing afterwards. The only thing that could be changed is nerfing 00:33:125 (2,3) - further, but this is pretty arbitrary.
Also you said that you felt this section as a whole was too intense, I would just read shiirns reply I guess since he already said the main points.
00:09:540 (2,1) - I'd like to see a larger spacing between these two as (1) is the start of a new vocal phrase here, which you also marked with the NC usage. You usually seperated these phrases (not just vocals) with larger spacing like 00:01:217 (3,1) - 00:08:500 (6,1) - 00:10:928 (3,1) - so it would feel appropriate to do the same here. this is something I would change. Typically I like my slower parts to enforce more difficult reading since otherwise they're very easy for the difficulty, but I suppose this is out of place somewhat considering the other instances of this type of spacing were removed by mods.
00:16:997 - Feels odd to ignore this beat, as you didn't miss out on the strong vocal beats before. It's essentially the same emphasis as 00:15:610 - just with a slightly different pitch, so it would help to add a circle here. I think 00:17:171 (1,2) - being empty works well as an anticlimax though. i think this is fine. this is rly minor and it would be awkward if i ignored the other notes since the vocalist isnt perfectly on time.
01:40:408 (1,2,3) - I would have loved to see these having the same slidershape (you could make a nice rotated pattern out of that) because the emphasis and pitch on the vocals are the same for each. The singer puts a huge emphasis on those being the exact same sounds so it would be great if the map could reflect that. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8205292 that doesnt fit my aesthetic style.
Just if any QAT didn't already get my opinion: I don't think these issues are worthy of a DQ since they're only two minor changes that I would make. I believe the map is quality as is, and the two changes that I would change are arbitrary and will not increase the quality of my map.Pentori wrote:
few things worth mentioning about the kiai in the highest diff, on top of desp's concerns
01:25:668 (3,4,5) - the spacing variation is too drastic for what the music provides, u should be looking to space 01:25:841 (4) - more this has been discussed many times already by modders. It's something I want to keep because I want the emphasis to be the double drum on the note after. I think this is fine and my creative decision.
01:33:471 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - stream seems totally uncalled for, you drown out the effect of specific triplets such as 01:33:645 (3,4,5) - as well as overmap most of the blue ticks. i feel this could be done a lot better with 1/2s I think this is fine within the context of this difficulty. The link you provided does have rhythm support. The only thing I would do would be change it to match the stream of the insane, but as I said the context here fits the difficulty i believe.
01:35:379 (2) - doesn't seem to get clicked to anything, and has a strong snare on the end ok? I dont see why this needs to be mapped with a circle. Considering that the 1/1 slider is basically forced by the rhythm and the vocal comes 1/2 after the slider, the rhythm would then be 4 circles which would rather than highlighting vocals be a mess of random beats.
01:38:674 (5,6,7) - i dont think the white tick triplet is necessary. u have a strong beat on 01:38:674 (5) - and nothing supporting the blue tick 01:38:760 (6)i mean its an overmapped triplet at the climax of the song. I believe it fits with what I've made so far.
01:39:714 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is 1/3 ok I could change this. Personally I like it the way it is but since it does have incorrect spacing it could be changed.
01:42:836 (5) - and this is 1/2 im following the violin which gets quieter but is still there and on a 1/3 snapping.
both 01:39:714 - and 01:42:489 - follow the same beat structure in the music again, this could be changed since the rhythm isn't technically supported.
additionally, with the section at 00:22:026 - u normally represented the piano with a respective kick slider 00:26:015 (1,2) - 00:27:402 (1,2) - yet u seem to stop doing this in certain places 00:28:789 (1,2,3) - 00:29:483 (1,2,3) - 00:30:177 (1,2,3) - only to return to the same concept later on 00:30:870 (1,2) . perhaps look to employ this concept more consistently or perhaps I decided to offer a little bit of variety on the down beat change only to reexplore the concept back when I believed it to become most intense. 00:30:870 (1) -
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some of the statements also are applicable for the insane, such as the snapping and stream choice.
hope u consider some of this
This point is what I disagree with, hence why I pointed it out. To me, the stream section doesn't feel nearly as intense in the song than the chorus does. But I'll accept this anyway.Shiirn wrote:
This song has the fairly interesting aspect of having the most musically intense portion of the track not actually in the chorus, and as such it will naturally come out differently than people might be used to.