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ManuelOsuPlayer
1,565 posts
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ManuelOsuPlayer

Endaris wrote:

Playing HR is not worthwhile unless your acc is good enough. Hint: Yours isn't.
Anyway, the best way to get used to AR10 without frustrating yourself is probably playing AR8+DT.
I really like AR10, I'm not playing for ranks so i don't matter about It's worth or not. I just want to be better to can enjoy extra songs with the mod.

I can't play DT It's 10times harder for me than HR. i can't tap when lot of circles at same time at screen. It's like easy mod for me. The aproach rate isn't the problem, i can play Insane DT perfectly using Relax mod and read everysingle circle, but imposible to tap a hard song Dt.
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
Being able to play something with Relax never means jackshit.
You can't read AR10 and you're playing whack-a-mole with it based on your acc-values.

Getting better at nomod would certainly be a good idea as it is the fundament to being able to play Extra-diffs properly.
ManuelOsuPlayer
1,565 posts
Joined July 2014
Topic Starter
ManuelOsuPlayer

Endaris wrote:

Being able to play something with Relax never means jackshit.
You can't read AR10 and you're playing whack-a-mole with it based on your acc-values.

Getting better at nomod would certainly be a good idea as it is the fundament to being able to play Extra-diffs properly.
And how I'm going to improve playing HR without playing it? I don't improve faster playing it? I don't understand it.
I'm improving a lot at nomod by playing HR mod. Why do you think i have to play with nomod to improve at HR when i already improve a lot at nomod without play it?

I got a lot better acc tapping, streaming, and much much much better aim/raw aim than i would have improved by playing nomod. Also i can follow better the rythm than never cause after spaming high OD, these songs no mods are really easy to accurate.
I think you're judging me or my skills by my account rank. I don't rank any song since a long time and I'm not interested on do it until i can pass my toprank playing HR. So ignore the profile nomod topranks, acc, plays, etc.

I just want help to know how to start reading the Insanes and extra with HR. How can i practice that, or what can help me to be able to play them and improving well by doing it.
And I'm totally able to read aproach rate 10, and even more. But can't handle it when a lot of circles at screen. I can pass a song with much more speed than insanes AR10 If it's a jumps map. I repeat, my problem It's as more circles at same time on the screen less i can focus on everysingle one. The AR dosn't matter there. I have the same problem If the same amout of circles are in the screen at same time playing AR7/8/9 and i can totally pass insanes ar9 and ar7 with >98%acc.
Should i edit easy maps to make them like playing EASY mod but AR10 or how can i improve that? I have no idea.
E m i
E m i
well ar10 is hard to some degree and you should expect mistaps or other similar problems

the reason why relax is no problem is rather simple, you need to mouse over EVERYTHING just until it gets clicked by the mod itself - everything requires the same reaction. you don't even know if something is a slider, a triple, a circle, a double? You don't know if it's 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 1/1? Not much of a problem, it'll get clicked when it's needed.

when you introduce tapping to ar10 you don't have much time to determine what to do for each pattern which can become a problem if there are many of them at once (by which I don't mean many objects, but pattern changes like z z zxz zxzxz z zxz zxz z | jump jump triple stream jump triple triple circle)
higher spacing also gives you less time, you know - peripheral vision is less accurate, moving your eyes over to the circle takes time, and other bullshit like that. so it's not weird that you're having a lot less trouble reading hards than insanes/extras

I don't know how to transition into "play more" so I'll just say play more yay

you'll eventually develop a way to read it. An example "trick" or whatever that I have developed for ar11 is alternating and holding down the keys. That way, I can read the patterns AFTER I've clicked them and simply keep the key pressed if it's a slider or move on if it was a circle. I know it's an extreme example and I'm oversimplifying but if I played a lot more I would, for example, get better at it and stop falling behind if the map is 200+bpm or has triples or streams or whatever.

also 144hz monitor, more fps, and higher gamma help make the circles more noticeable in two ways
ManuelOsuPlayer
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ManuelOsuPlayer

Momiji wrote:

well ar10 is hard to some degree and you should expect mistaps or other similar problems

the reason why relax is no problem is rather simple, you need to mouse over EVERYTHING just until it gets clicked by the mod itself - everything requires the same reaction. you don't even know if something is a slider, a triple, a circle, a double? You don't know if it's 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 1/1? Not much of a problem, it'll get clicked when it's needed.

when you introduce tapping to ar10 you don't have much time to determine what to do for each pattern which can become a problem if there are many of them at once (by which I don't mean many objects, but pattern changes like z z zxz zxzxz z zxz zxz z | jump jump triple stream jump triple triple circle)

I don't have any problem with patterns, i already played a lot and the triples, streams, etc going solo by my left hand. Only doubles on slidders rektme cause I'm aldeady doing the slidder when i realice the 2°hit. If i totally focus on the rythm this issue hardly happens.
When i mean play relax i mean stop on the triples knowing there are triples, no swim or fly around or hit them because reactions. But i know What you mean. I try to say i can see all the circles like I'm playing ar 7

Momiji wrote:

higher spacing also gives you less time, you know - peripheral vision is less accurate, moving your eyes over to the circle takes time, and other bullshit like that. so it's not weird that you're having a lot less trouble reading hards than insanes/extras
I don't know man, i feel like isn't the time what i have, cause to acc x300 AR10 i have to wait a little so my reactions and speed are totally fine to play inanes+extras HR

Momiji wrote:

I don't know how to transition into "play more" so I'll just say play more yay
I'm playing all what i can and even more xD. Just don't feeling I'm improving well, or I'm going to be able to play this. It's like when a kid learn to read. He can stay 10 years watching a book, but If no one help him and tell how to read he never go to learn for himself by watching the book. I think that happens to me playing extra HR, i feel like i just need one thing to start to play and learn while playing. Thats why I'm asking.

Momiji wrote:

you'll eventually develop a way to read it. An example "trick" or whatever that I have developed for ar11 is alternating and holding down the keys. That way, I can read the patterns AFTER I've clicked them and simply keep the key pressed if it's a slider or move on if it was a circle. I know it's an extreme example and I'm oversimplifying but if I played a lot more I would, for example, get better at it and stop falling behind if the map is 200+bpm or has triples or streams or whatever.

also 144hz monitor, more fps, and higher gamma help make the circles more noticeable in two ways

I máster AR 9, that was the only AR what i play for almost 2 years. I have tryed AR11 recently. Not trying to learn AR11, trying to make AR10 more similar to AR9 by improving my general high AR reading. It works for couple hours where i start play AR10 and feels slower. Anyways was pretty useless, i think It's just a psicologic factor.
Maybe play AR11 help to improve reaction time to high AR. But all the time spend on that could be more productive by just playing AR10 or AR9DT. I don't know.
Motteke
261 posts
Joined March 2016
Motteke
Read ar10 is not so difficult, I can personally play maps better with HR because seeing one circle right away from another is better than seeing several.
If you do not do it yet, you can try using HD, regularly these two mods go hand in hand for the most difficult maps and it is because of the fact that it removes the distraction that causes the proximity circle causes in ar10 because it goes something fast.
Motteke
261 posts
Joined March 2016
Motteke
And note that ar10 is a quite different evolution of Ar9 that generates a map with DT or non mods
-Makishima S-
2,434 posts
Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
HR is all about accuracy, your sucks, deal with it.
You will never learn HR if you don't fix your acc.
Sayorie
975 posts
Joined December 2014
Sayorie
Go play AR10 nomod if you want AR10. HR is hard because of OD10 imo. If you really want more AR10 then edit maps to AR10 and play them.

>checks profile
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markii
107 posts
Joined August 2013
markii
Disgusting HDHR farmer reporting in!

get good at nomod, your fundamental skills (reading complex patterns, rhythm sense, aim, accuracy, reaction time) all probably need to be way better, guessing by your profile, playing something you can play comfortably, but also pushes your limits is the best way to improve, not reactively playing maps that are too hard for you, it will all come naturally as you progress, it may sounds repetitive at this point, but play more, play a variety, and don't stop playing HR if it's fun, just don't expect to improve quickly by trying to brute force learn something you don't have the foundation set for. first and for most you need cursor control, aim, and acc, then worry about approach rates, because that will be all you have left to learn, learning to acc before you can read makes no sense, and learning to aim at circles off reaction instead of reading is going to be vastly harder than aiming at circles you understand thoroughly. Personally, I tried to brute force learn HR for 3 months with very little progress, dropped it got better at the overall game, came back and HR wasn't nearly that tough to pick up, and was vastly more enjoyable, now I basically never play nomod, unless it's high star rating or high base AR.

Sorry for not splitting up the wall of text into easier to read sections, but fuck it there's some advice in there.

Edit: I just re-read that and my go I must be tired, because there isn't a period anywhere in there. If any part of my tremendous run on sentence doesn't make sense I'll clarify, just lmk.
ManuelOsuPlayer
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Topic Starter
ManuelOsuPlayer

Motteke wrote:

Read ar10 is not so difficult, I can personally play maps better with HR because seeing one circle right away from another is better than seeing several.
If you do not do it yet, you can try using HD, regularly these two mods go hand in hand for the most difficult maps and it is because of the fact that it removes the distraction that causes the proximity circle causes in ar10 because it goes something fast.
Play HR + HD It's much easier. I'm playing without HD to try to improve more fast. I hope that helps. I'm no sure, but playing hidden it's so easy to know when to tap and by doing it i think I'm not training my reactions anymore. Maybe If i play first with HD+HR and play after without i can do a much better reading. I don't know If that going to help or i'm just learning the maps and the rythms and playing them using memory.

Sayorie wrote:

Go play AR10 nomod if you want AR10. HR is hard because of OD10 imo. If you really want more AR10 then edit maps to AR10 and play them.

>checks profile
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I like low CS and high OD, not only AR10. If i edit the map like that will be the same than playing HR.


markii wrote:

Disgusting HDHR farmer reporting in!

get good at nomod, your fundamental skills (reading complex patterns, rhythm sense, aim, accuracy, reaction time) all probably need to be way better, guessing by your profile, playing something you can play comfortably, but also pushes your limits is the best way to improve, not reactively playing maps that are too hard for you, it will all come naturally as you progress, it may sounds repetitive at this point, but play more, play a variety, and don't stop playing HR if it's fun, just don't expect to improve quickly by trying to brute force learn something you don't have the foundation set for. first and for most you need cursor control, aim, and acc, then worry about approach rates, because that will be all you have left to learn, learning to acc before you can read makes no sense, and learning to aim at circles off reaction instead of reading is going to be vastly harder than aiming at circles you understand thoroughly. Personally, I tried to brute force learn HR for 3 months with very little progress, dropped it got better at the overall game, came back and HR wasn't nearly that tough to pick up, and was vastly more enjoyable, now I basically never play nomod, unless it's high star rating or high base AR.

Sorry for not splitting up the wall of text into easier to read sections, but fuck it there's some advice in there.

Edit: I just re-read that and my go I must be tired, because there isn't a period anywhere in there. If any part of my tremendous run on sentence doesn't make sense I'll clarify, just lmk.
I totally need to learn how to read complex paterns and improve reaction time reading them. I think my general reaction time, aim and raw aim are good. I can do only jumps maps with HR perfectly. I play maps like tengaku (rage) using HR and watching the replay 0'5 speed i can see easy i totally do well things like hard jumps. I miss when i get losed cause i don't read that part.
What I'm trying to say It's my aim It's not the problem to play insanes por extras with HR. I'm not saying I'm so good aiming, just that's not the problem.
How can i improve the reading of complex patterns? Playing EASY mod? Half Time learning patterns what i can't read? Retry 100 times the pattern until i read it? Playing them with HD? Doing the pattern step by step? I don't know how to improve the reading. Maybe memory them only going to be usefull playing that map but i'll have same problem with next one.

[Taiga] wrote:

HR is all about accuracy, your sucks, deal with it.
You will never learn HR if you don't fix your acc.
Why are you sure my accuracy sucks? My acc isn't the problem, i think, but I'm trying to get better at it anyways. I'm trying to improve accuracy until 99% on everysingle thing i can read, not scared about acc problems.
ManuelOsuPlayer
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Joined July 2014
Topic Starter
ManuelOsuPlayer
I can give you a sightread play so maybe you can give me a hand to improve.
https://uploadfiles.io/58f00
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/164183
How can you see i got losed and unfocused a lot of times. I'm not worried abut the tap cuase it's easy to improve just by playing, but my reading it's pretty garbage and i don't know how to improve reading. Hope you can give me some advices. I know i miss by aiming a lot but i'm 100% sure it's cause reading, not the aim. Thank's for your time.
Sayorie
975 posts
Joined December 2014
Sayorie
Then listen to our advice and acknowledge your own flaws.

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

Maybe If i play first with HD+HR and play after without i can do a much better reading.
uh that's not how it works, you'll be stuck with HD (probably, like me)

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I can do only jumps maps with HR perfectly.
Then you won't be able to do HR on most maps, only pure jump maps.

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I miss when i get losed cause i don't read that part.
How can i improve the reading of complex patterns? Playing EASY mod? Half Time learning patterns what i can't read? Retry 100 times the pattern until i read it? Playing them with HD? Doing the pattern step by step? I don't know how to improve the reading. Maybe memory them only going to be usefull playing that map but i'll have same problem with next one.
You play nomod jfc
This is why you should learn the basics first. And what I mean by basics is recognizing the structure of patterns in its simplest form, found in nomod. You'll see harder and harder patterns the more you work your way up to 7* maps.

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

My acc isn't the problem
It will be.
PinkNightmares
211 posts
Joined September 2014
PinkNightmares
Sorry to break it to you but you have none of the skills required to play HR on insanes+. Get back to low 4* nomod.
-Makishima S-
2,434 posts
Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
He is another delusional player who think that spamming HR at certain point will make him better.

Expect him to come here (if he doesnt quit) in half year and cry how to fix acc / reading.
Railey2
512 posts
Joined February 2015
Railey2
if you don't care about ranks, just play only AR10 if thats most fun for you.

You'll completely lose your ability to play lower AR's, but that doesn't really matter if you're just about AR10.
Don't bother with nomod, just play HR and AR10.

if you can't do hard HR maps, play easier HR maps and work your way up as soon as you're comfortable with the easier maps.

There aren't any big secrets to it, really.

Just don't expect to get actually good at the game like that, because you probably won't in a long time.
Kyrari
789 posts
Joined June 2013
Kyrari

Railey2 wrote:

if you don't care about ranks, just play only AR10 if thats most fun for you.

You'll completely lose your ability to play lower AR's, but that doesn't really matter if you're just about AR10.
Don't bother with nomod, just play HR and AR10.
This, tbh I've seen some people who played HR since they're 100k ranks and they're still being a really good 4 digit HR player now so it's definitely possible. Though honestly I would much rather be able to do a map nomod first then put HR on it.

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

How can i improve the reading of complex patterns? Playing EASY mod?
Play more maps and sightread them more. The more maps you play the more accustomed you are to different styles/pattern and you're much more likely to hit them when seeing it again than needing to understand the pattern first. And that's probably why most people practice with nomod first and get used to many patterns, because at AR 10 you're more to react than "see circles, understand what to do, click accordingly".

I'm sure it's possible to get used to AR 10 so much that you'll be able to understand what you're clicking in time, but personally I don't have it yet (or maybe I just haven't played HR enough lul)

And playing Easy mod just makes you able to read Easy mod :(.
-Makishima S-
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-Makishima S-
This, tbh I've seen some people who played HR since they're 100k ranks and they're still being a really good 4 digit HR player now so it's definitely possible. Though honestly I would much rather be able to do a map nomod first then put HR on it.
Core question is - how many of them are able to play properly complex maps (eg. mainly camellia) and how many are just farmed by overrated farm maps (eg. haitai / no title)?

I guess one find fun in overrated easy maps.
I never find this logical to cage yourself in one type of "fycho style" maps just to gain ranks and end up being unable to play marathons / complex maps at all.
ManuelOsuPlayer
1,565 posts
Joined July 2014
Topic Starter
ManuelOsuPlayer

[Taiga] wrote:

He is another delusional player who think that spamming HR at certain point will make him better.

Expect him to come here (if he doesnt quit) in half year and cry how to fix acc / reading.
Why are you talking like you know me? I'm playing since 2013, i'm not going to quite even if i don't improve. If you're going to talk shit without know people better shut the fuck up.
7ambda
2,560 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

Why are you talking like you know me? I'm playing since 2013, i'm not going to quite even if i don't improve. If you're going to talk shit without know people better shut the fuck up.
We know you better than you know yourself.
Sayorie
975 posts
Joined December 2014
Sayorie

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I'm playing since 2013
stop being so self-absorbed and accept your mistakes
no wonder you're stuck for 4 years, heck, I started clicking circles around one year ago
kai99
1,123 posts
Joined July 2013
kai99

Sayorie wrote:

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I'm playing since 2013
stop being so self-absorbed and accept your mistakes
no wonder you're stuck for 4 years, heck, I started clicking circles around one year ago
lol apply cold water to burn area.

Isn't the point clear tho? Don't use HR, use AR10 maps instead, it's not that desirable to stick to one style, orrrr you could just stick to HR all the time and ya know, life is life, you play osu, get better skills, you can do whatever you want. at this point i dont even know what this thread is for...........
Yolshka
669 posts
Joined April 2014
Yolshka

[Taiga] wrote:

I guess one find fun in overrated easy maps.
Oh well...
It's getting really lonely here recently, on the side that appreciates the simplicity of such maps.

Manuel, i don't think you are missing out on too much, just a mod, and a few nomod maps.
Kazutakee
176 posts
Joined May 2013
Kazutakee
I might not be the more common HR player out there, but I believe I have grasped the fundamental aspects on the mod and how it works.

Manuel, If I was you I would rather than embarking on a long HR journey to succes, work on my overall consistency.
HR is a lot about consistency and rhythmic sense and is, compared to nomod, not possible to mash to due to its high overall difficulty and health drain. I know you don't play for PP but I still believe you play maps that are too early for you if you want to do them well (based out from accuracy and miss rate) .
Even if it's not for competitiveness, improving the fundamentals will always be the best choice.
E m i
E m i
why are people in this thread acting like od10 makes you play worse?
if i get 90 ur with near perfect normal distribution of hits on two 500 circle + 500 slider maps, one with od8 and one with od10 - they will be different acc, but same play. gg.

i hear a lot of bullshit like od11 won't help you get better acc because you're getting 88% so that's shit acc so you can't improve
or od0 won't help you get better acc because you never know when you hit incorrectly so you can't improve

and i'm just like "turn the hitsounds on you retards"
7ambda
2,560 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda

Momiji wrote:

why are people in this thread acting like od10 makes you play worse?
if i get 90 ur with near perfect normal distribution of hits on two 500 circle + 500 slider maps, one with od8 and one with od10 - they will be different acc, but same play. gg.

i hear a lot of bullshit like od11 won't help you get better acc because you're getting 88% so that's shit acc so you can't improve
or od0 won't help you get better acc because you never know when you hit incorrectly so you can't improve

and i'm just like "turn the hitsounds on you retards"
when you see bad acc, you think, "man, i suck," and then you play worse
E m i
E m i
:idea: i get that because i'm retarded.

Don't be like me. : )
Sayorie
975 posts
Joined December 2014
Sayorie
Because going straight to OD10 is quite unforgiving.
Why not go along the OD ladder to make it easier?
kai99
1,123 posts
Joined July 2013
kai99

Sayorie wrote:

Because going straight to OD10 is quite unforgiving.
Why not go along the OD ladder to make it easier?
^
Railey2
512 posts
Joined February 2015
Railey2
because he wants to play HR?

i think you're all missing the point here.

He doesn't care about the fastest route to success, he just wants to comfortably play what he likes.

The best advice for him would proably be to just play with NF on all the time.
Sayorie
975 posts
Joined December 2014
Sayorie
SPOILER

I don't mean to go personal on him here, but we're just genuinely helping him to become the best HR player despite all the flaming. The ride will never be smooth if you have a goal that high, and that includes taking lots of criticism.
ManuelOsuPlayer
1,565 posts
Joined July 2014
Topic Starter
ManuelOsuPlayer
I already discover my mainly problem. I had high sensitivity. Playing with mouse the pieze what move when you move fast the mouse by reaction make the mouse keep moving alone if you don't grab it well. That was making my aim pretty unestable shaking a lot. I just down mouse sensitivy and dpi and know i can play much better HR and no afect to nomod plays.
That was my mainly problem and not reading. I thougth it was reading cause i got losed cause i was to focused to aim well without focus on the circles on the screen.
I think i can improve well from now. Thank's for the tips, i'll play more no mod to get better reading on complex patterns and more consistence.
Sayorie
975 posts
Joined December 2014
Sayorie
Don't forget to have fun. :)
thr1ve
80 posts
Joined December 2008
thr1ve

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

And how I'm going to improve playing HR without playing it? I don't improve faster playing it? I don't understand it.
How am I ever going to bench press 100kgs without benching 100kgs? Hmm... I wonder.

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I don't have any problem with patterns.
No.

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I máster AR 9, that was the only AR what i play for almost 2 years.
No. https://scr.hu/7d42n6

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I don't know man, i feel like isn't the time what i have, cause to acc x300 AR10 i have to wait a little so my reactions and speed are totally fine to play inanes+extras HR

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

I totally need to learn how to read complex paterns and improve reaction time reading them. I think my general reaction time, aim and raw aim are good. I can do only jumps maps with HR perfectly.
No.

I'm a HDHR player with more expierence than you and maaaan, I'm bad. Posts like these, break my heart man...
The vibe I get from your post is "My osu skylz are SICK, I just need AR10 to complete my new pp gain jutsu and I'll be top ranking those insanes and extras, yeah! Chorizo!". Obviously, something is wrong. You're not as good as you think you are. Stop being cocky and acknowledge how much of a road you have ahead of you to reach where you want to be. You want to skip a few steps, in the end it will backfire.
Seriously I can't believe how cocky about your osu skylz you are man. I'm gonna tell you the truth. You're weak. You're so weak... but you can always improve. What I recommend for you is, don't touch HR until you're 4-5k pp(Unless you want to be this guy https://osu.ppy.sh/u/Neeshi#_leader) Sorry Neeshi. <3

What Cookiezi has to say: https://scr.hu/2jwn4e

I wish I knew how to BBCode better. :(
Nattsun
537 posts
Joined September 2016
Nattsun

[Taiga] wrote:

HR is all about accuracy, your sucks, deal with it.
You will never learn HR if you don't fix your acc.
B-but OP can acc od7 maps with 98% accuracy, he is the prodigy, you could say the next Bikko.

@OP: Play nomod, it's still a long way to go for you to play HR. Learning AR10 would take a weak on McOsu with some dedication, but it's pretty much a useless ability, especially in your rank. OD10 doesn't make things easier, it punishes you for everything. The smaller circle size is probably the easiest thing to learn, on the other hand we have Irre maps.

Just play AR9 like everyone else, please, you are not a prodigy, you are not a metronome, heck, you can climb up to top 2000 with ~AR9 maps, nomod.

@thr1ve damn you firetrucked OP... At least you said the truth.
Attenox
Attenox
Play AR8+DT (9.67), then you won't be too far from playing AR10
I never found HR a good way to play AR10 with because of OD and CS.
If you don't want DT you can just edit maps and change the to 10 and play easy stuff so you get used to the speed of it then move onto harder stuff which requires more aim etc.
Rythmbomb
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Rynnavinx
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Rynnavinx
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ManuelOsuPlayer
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Joined July 2014
Topic Starter
ManuelOsuPlayer

Rythmbomb wrote:

I'd suggest playing maps without HR at first. Just go into editor; choose a song, start editing, and then go to song setup and change the AR to 10. It will help because you won't have to deal with the OD or HP. Then after you are comfortable, start using HR for a while, try doing jump maps with minor triples or streams. After that you can try streams. After you are done playing stuff like that you can try HD but for me personally HDHR is harder than just HR right now, but I am still learning how to read AR 10 and so far it is going great. You just have to practice a lot. Good luck!
I'm already passing 6*+ maps with HR and got a lot of fc on other server. I think you're a bit to late.
Ar10 is a joke right now. OD10 sightreading is the boss do.
For players who try to get something usefull from this post on the future:
Ignore all what has been said before this, because is going to be a lot of wrong and not well explained info.
To be able to read AR10 totally fine i did the next:

-Build muscle memory on top of follow points to don't shit miss jumps anymore, increasse speed, reduce strain reading and focus more on other things.

-Farm from 70k to 32k in 3 or 4 sessions sightreading, playing DT, and nomod. Used tillerino !r and playing all topranks from other players once.

-Spam HR for a week on maps at the higher star ratting i could handle nomod, but adding HRNF. 1 play for each map, no quit, no retry.

-Practice DT maps from 200pp to 350pp for a week.

I tested hundred of things. That are the ones what worked. About acc and consistence, i'm still work on them, but a really good HR player recommend me play low bpm maps with HR, so i'm sure that will work.

You may have some problems after learn AR10 to acc something under. But that problem goes away after spam lower AR for a week or 2, without touch high AR. And then you will be able to play Low AR and High AR changing from map to map wothout problem anymore. And those skills aren't going to be forgoted if you keep doing a balanced practice playing a bit of everything.

After get used to it, you can play AR10 without follow points, what ay help to play streams and read them more consistenly.
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