Ito Kanako - Uncontrollable (TV Size)

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Noffy wrote:

Hello, rather delayed mod from my queueueu

[General]
How come there is no video? o:
It feels like a waste to map a tv-size and to not include the video. Unless it has NSFW elements, which I'm pretty sure Chaos;Child's doesn't unless I missed it.
If you need help getting one and making it osu ready, I can try to do so ^^ ya would be great if you could find a good quality one! I didn't personally think about adding a video lol
Despite there being an advanced difficulty, I felt that the jump from advanced > hard was still a bit larger than it should be, playing wise. I think you can afford to buff both normal and advanced at least a small amount. I think it's pretty much fine since normal is basically 1/1 with occasional 3/2 repeats and 2/1 (which is a standard for lower diffs imo, I don't want to make the rhythm too complex there) and advanced introduces a good amount of 1/2 gaps without having too many 1/2 jumps (mentai nerfed the jump section in hard, so it shouldn't have a diffspike in terms of rhythm now). I'll keep it for now, though if needed I might buff advanced a bit

Pretty sure source should be "ChäoS;Child" as this is how it appears everywhere I've seen it.
+add "chaos" to tags because ChäoS has the funky ä character in it. that's what I used at first as well, but this meta had been confirmed by kwan, I guess I'll add the screenshot into the description to avoid any misunderstandings lol

[Normal]
Generally, I think having a slider velocity of .6 is a bit rather too low, especially when combined with your rhythm choices.
Overall, it makes things so cramped together that normal can actually be more difficult to read for a beginner than advanced.
Any other problem I have directly relates back to this, so that's all I have to say for Normal. tbh increasing the SV would be a pain in the ass ._. I'll keep it for now, would change to like x0.8 if needed, I think it's not that crucial - the rhythm is pretty much straightforward and repeats itself all over, so it shouldn't be that hard for new players to read it

00:40:310 (1,1) - these sliders are cool as heck tho. Would like to see more cool sliderarts like this. ikr :>

[Advanced]
  1. 00:07:453 (4,1) - This blanket can definitely be improved. I swear it was better the last time I checked it LOL
  2. 00:10:595 (1,2) - 00:12:881 (1,2) - 00:15:167 (1,2) - 00:16:310 (3,4) - You have these similar patterns of parallel sliders, but the visual spacing in between them is different every time. The result looks rather inconsistent and weakens the impact of the repeated idea. nice catch, changed some of them to be more consistent
  3. 00:17:453 (1,2,3,4,5) - Possibly changing it like this http://puu.sh/wzQ7R/5c8a19c8aa.jpg could be more natural to play. It's essentially the same pattern, but without forcibly going under 00:16:881 (4) - which made it look rather cluttered. did smth else
  4. 00:19:738 - to 00:26:310 - it's rather confusing what you are supposed to be following in this section. You skip over strong vocals like 00:20:167 - , map weaker ones like 00:20:310 , put strong drum beats like 00:20:595 as slider ends, and give something like 00:21:738 (6) - a circle even though it's a very soft hi-hat. I'd suggest revising the rhythm in this section from scratch, it's all over the place. I just recently remapped this section cause it was literally vocals all over (like most of this diff) and tried to focus more on the beats. did some tweaks here and there, hope it's better now!
  5. 00:28:595 (4) - Have a circle instead? This would help emphasize 00:28:881 (1) - being the start of a new part in the song. agree, changed
  6. 00:45:453 (2,1) - A bad overlap like this can easily be avoided by changing the positioning of (2) WHOOOPS this shouldn't have happened in the first place, smh I positioned (1) at the wrong angle, fixed!
  7. 01:07:024 (2,2) - This overlap.. is rather.. very bad looking. ctrl-h is my best friend (ended up changing like everything after this one LMAO)
  8. 00:59:024 - I suggest finding a way to place another 1/2 reverse slider to be like 00:58:595 (1) - as the song repeats the "nee" twice. ye I wanted to simplify the rhythm a bit, applied
  9. 01:08:167 - ^ same here. ^
  10. 01:10:167 (2) - I think this should just be a 1/1 slider like 01:01:024 (2) - was. there's another vocal syllable on that repeat so I'd rather keep it like this
  11. 01:16:024 (5,6,7) - Maybe make (5) a circle instead, so that (6,7) are more noticably following the louder more continuos synth volume. I think that (5) fits in that pattern as well, e.g. in the last diff those three are 1-2-1-2-1-2 jumps that are gettin bigger

Generally, I found throughout the difficulty quite a few patterns would end up rather cramped together, especially during the kiai. yea, ended up redoing some patterns in kiai. actually ended up buffing this diff a bit as you suggested (well, those 1/2 repeats on 'nee, nee' did the thing LOL I had to add some more 1/2 to kiai, and this also allowed me to buff the very first section (00:19:738 - )

[Light Insane]
  1. 00:33:881 (2,3,1) - This flows quite a bit more sharply than previous patterns in your map without this part of the song being particularly special to deserve it. Mainly, its arrangment leads to 00:34:310 (3,1) - this jump feeling quite unnatural. I suggest trying to figure out an alternate placement for this bit. for me it's fine tbh, though I still did smth else - 00:35:167 (2,3) - spacing on those was a bit different that I wanted it to be
  2. 01:12:595 (2,1) - since you've been using stacking throughout the map, these being so close to stacked yet not quite looks really, very odd. yep, fixed



[Chaos]

  • 01:18:881 - it's rather unfitting to skip this kick when the kicks are what 01:17:738 (4,5,6) - were all following.
    01:20:024 - ^ fixed both, I like the idea


I was a bit worried after seeing the advanced and normal, which are in my opinion the weakest difficulties here, but overall this is quite a cool set for a good song. ya true, mapping those lower diffs was hard xdd
Good luck!
(PM me about the video if interested)
wheesh that was a long one, thanks!
Zel
Noffy

I notice the hitsounding in the beginning of this difficulty is quite louder than the other ones, and mostly it just sounds kind of weird as the hitsounding is so sparse, that the player just ends up hearing a constant sh-sh-sh from the hitnormal. fixed
00:25:310 (1,4) - Sttaackkk is off it isnt, it snaps to this position
00:29:881 (1) - This is actually, like, 1 or 2 pixels offscreen. Raise just a wee bit please. lmfao im a noob. fixed
01:04:167 (1,2,3) - Maybe try to find a way to space this more like 01:13:310 (1,2,3) - . Currently, these objects are unusually close together compared to the rest of the wildly spaced kiai. fixed
osu file format v14

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Mentai
@noffy if i were to change that reverse arrow section to what you suggest, id have to completely redo how i organized the kiai. so unless it becomes an OMEGA issue, then i can remap the kiai for that. but i definitely see the validity of that point

thank ya noff <3

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DeRandom Otaku
[Normal]
  1. 00:10:595 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This whole streak is way too long, considering this difficulty as the first of the set its not beginner friendly at all and thus should totally be nerfed And pretty much same for the rest of the difficulty. you may need to nerf rhythm in most sections slightly here or you could simply add an easy difficulty.
    However i am still gonna point out some notes that you can delete to simplify the rhythm and it will still sound just as fine as before. 00:12:595 (4) - 00:17:167 (4) - 00:30:595 (3) - (can change to single circle) 00:30:595 (3) - (can change to single circle).
    For the kiai, you could follow the same patterning i mentioned above, because the whole two kiais with the section in middle have zero gaps between notes which is just intense for normal difficulties.
    00:28:881 (1) - Judging by this whole difficulty, it seems like you are mostly emphasizing vocals, if thats the case then this slider is pretty misleading, since the song is emphasizing 00:29:167 - this beat while you are emphasizing 00:28:881 - this one.

[Advanced]
  1. 00:19:738 (1,2) - Having these two sliders next to each other is quite bad for emphasis since the first slider has kicks on both slider start and slider end while the second slider has vocals only without any drums or stuff. You may replace the instrument you want to emphasize (either the drums or vocals) by circles only to distinguish a difference between different instruments properly.
  2. 00:20:738 (4) - 00:23:024 (3,4) - These two are pretty much similar in song but mapped with different rhythm thus lacking consistency.
  3. 00:29:453 (3,4) - This is really weird because you are starting 4 at 00:30:024 - which supports a drum and then you start 5 at 00:30:453 - which supports vocal, you should stick to a single instrument. If you want to stick to vocals then try this rhythm otherwise you can have this rhythmfor drums.
    Same thing goes for 00:31:595 - 00:33:881 -
  4. 00:58:310 (1) - hint you dont need nc on this
  5. 01:06:595 (1) - Same

[Hard]
  1. 00:36:595 (3,1,2) - This whole pattern can be confusing as hell because you have a whooping DS of 3x between 00:36:595 (3,1) - and for the next two objects the DS is back to average even tho they are all the same rhythm, the DS is twice as much between 3 and 1. What makes it even more confusing is the direction of 00:36:881 (1) - towards 00:37:453 (2) - .The reverse arrow of 1 directly points towards 2 which can signal the players about it being a 1/2 rhythm while in reality its 1/1. I hope you understand my point lol
  2. This difficulty has a lot of confusing spacings in most of the parts since the spacing between 1/1 patterns and 1/2 patterns co-exist to each other when the patterns are beside each other which are not suitable for a hard difficulty at all. The 1/2 slider spam part at 00:10:595 - is nicely made so gj on that

[Light Insane]
  1. 00:35:738 (1,2) - The flow here is kinda weird and is inconsistent with the patterns before this. The movement in your patterns earlier was circular but here ,suddenly, for an unknown reason, its not circular and its totally opposite of that so yeah ctrl+g'ing 00:36:167 (2) - will help fix that.
  2. 00:58:310 (1) - This slider looks so bad aesthetically , The red anchor point is so close to its end that it makes it look kinda cramped. Maybe try moving the red node to left a bit, or maybe even to the middle since thats gonna look even nicer but i dont think you want to do that lol.

well thats all for now. In summary, The difficulties can still take improvements in rhythms,structure and rhythm.
gl
Topic Starter
Jabba

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Normal]
  1. 00:10:595 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This whole streak is way too long, considering this difficulty as the first of the set its not beginner friendly at all and thus should totally be nerfed And pretty much same for the rest of the difficulty. you may need to nerf rhythm in most sections slightly here or you could simply add an easy difficulty. don't really think it's that hard, basically 1/1 slider spam. it's not an easy diff after all, it's normal xd
    However i am still gonna point out some notes that you can delete to simplify the rhythm and it will still sound just as fine as before. 00:12:595 (4) - 00:17:167 (4) - 00:30:595 (3) - (can change to single circle) 00:30:595 (3) - (can change to single circle).
    For the kiai, you could follow the same patterning i mentioned above, because the whole two kiais with the section in middle have zero gaps between notes which is just intense for normal difficulties. I'll nerf this if needed, cause rn it seems fine for me, e.g. stuff like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1023840 is ranked and is even more dense than this diff. also I'd say I use many repeating rhythms so it shouldn't be that hard for new players to follow them
    00:28:881 (1) - Judging by this whole difficulty, it seems like you are mostly emphasizing vocals, if thats the case then this slider is pretty misleading, since the song is emphasizing 00:29:167 - this beat while you are emphasizing 00:28:881 - this one. tbh I don't want to go full-circles like 00:31:167 (1,2) - immediately, also 00:28:881 - is a start of a new stanza and even deserves to be more emphasized than 00:29:167 - imo

[Advanced]
  1. 00:19:738 (1,2) - Having these two sliders next to each other is quite bad for emphasis since the first slider has kicks on both slider start and slider end while the second slider has vocals only without any drums or stuff. You may replace the instrument you want to emphasize (either the drums or vocals) by circles only to distinguish a difference between different instruments properly. yeah true, changed to 1/2 repeat + circle
  2. 00:20:738 (4) - 00:23:024 (3,4) - These two are pretty much similar in song but mapped with different rhythm thus lacking consistency. whooOPS tweaked this section slightly to make it more similar to the first one
  3. 00:29:453 (3,4) - This is really weird because you are starting 4 at 00:30:024 - which supports a drum and then you start 5 at 00:30:453 - which supports vocal, you should stick to a single instrument. If you want to stick to vocals then try this rhythm otherwise you can have this rhythmfor drums. I agree that it might be a bit strange lol. I want to smh keep both preserved, as sticking just to drums is kinda boring and if I only emphasize vocals it'll sound a bit too empty without drums, so I went with skipping vocal lines such as 00:29:881 - and started the slider 1/2 later, making it follow the drums. I kept the main idea, but adjusted some rhythms to make them more consistent
    Same thing goes for 00:31:595 - 00:33:881 -
  4. 00:58:310 (1) - hint you dont need nc on this nope, this is intended
  5. 01:06:595 (1) - Same uh, this is like the most intense part of kiai and deserves to have a ncs per measure instead of nc per two measures

[Light Insane]
  1. 00:35:738 (1,2) - The flow here is kinda weird and is inconsistent with the patterns before this. The movement in your patterns earlier was circular but here ,suddenly, for an unknown reason, its not circular and its totally opposite of that so yeah ctrl+g'ing 00:36:167 (2) - will help fix that. ya for some reason I used the idea from the highest diff (to make the flow more weird in the end of the section) but only applied it here and not 00:26:595 - there. fixed!
  2. 00:58:310 (1) - This slider looks so bad aesthetically , The red anchor point is so close to its end that it makes it look kinda cramped. Maybe try moving the red node to left a bit, or maybe even to the middle since thats gonna look even nicer but i dont think you want to do that lol. did smth

well thats all for now. In summary, The difficulties can still take improvements in rhythms,structure and rhythm.
gl
thanks!
Alden
hi from #modreqs just a few things on a few diffs

Normal
  1. 00:14:024 (3,4,5) - I would make this a long slider like what you do with the rest of these parts considering
  2. 00:51:738 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - kinda seems too long of a slider train imo. I'd break it up maybe with some 1/1 sliders and a circle to emphasize the vocals or break it up with some circles

Mentai's Hard
  • 00:03:167 (4) - kinda nazi but this is an ugly blanket
  1. 00:04:738 (3) - ^ slightly off too
  2. 00:08:310 (1,2) - I dont really like the break of flow here i dont know if it fits or not
  3. 00:09:738 (2) - I suggest switching up this slider so that it flows into 00:10:310 (3) -
  4. 00:34:738 (5,6) - just a me thing but i'd give the end of the bend some more length
  5. 00:42:310 (6) - should be a circle since u do it here 00:37:453 (2,3) -
  6. 00:48:881 (3) - another slightly offset blanket
  7. 01:19:310 (2) - the bends could be polished a bit

Light Insane
  1. 00:07:167 (1,2,3,4) - this seems really cluttered
  2. 00:19:738 (1,2) - I think there should be a bit more spacing here
  3. 00:36:595 (3) - since you're following vocals here i think this slider should also be a long one. Maybe a 3/4 slider?
  4. 01:04:310 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think there's anything in the music to justify a spacing increase
  5. 01:07:453 (5,1) - ok not really a problem but 5 doesnt totally line up with 1 which triggered me lol
  6. 01:08:738 (1,2) - blanket
  7. 01:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - same comment as 01:04:310 (1,2,3,4)
  8. 01:22:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - it would be better if u used the same rhythm as 01:21:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -

Zel's Extreme
  1. 00:07:738 (3) - needs more emphasis
  2. 00:09:453 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this doesnt fit. I would make 00:09:453 (1,2) - circles and 00:09:881 (3) - a 1/1 slider
  3. 00:12:310 (3,4,5,6) - for all the circles like these I would reccomend the first 2 circles to be more spaces than the other 2 to follow the pitch
  4. 00:32:881 (4,5) - I'd put a slider here
  5. 00:37:595 (2) - the long slider should start here
  6. 01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - holy thats one heck of a copypasta even for me
  7. 01:30:453 (4) - slider looks kinda ugly to me. Would rather just make them straight
Gl with this set!
Topic Starter
Jabba

ChronoNig wrote:

hi from #modreqs just a few things on a few diffs

Normal
  1. 00:14:024 (3,4,5) - I would make this a long slider like what you do with the rest of these parts considering this one is intended to be a bit more intense, also 00:14:595 (4,5) - emphasize those wubs on the background (like the kicksliders on higher diffs)
  2. 00:51:738 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - kinda seems too long of a slider train imo. I'd break it up maybe with some 1/1 sliders and a circle to emphasize the vocals or break it up with some circles agree, this is like one of the longest slider sections in the map, but I'd like to keep it as it is - putting circles there would break the emphasis pattern I'm following and make the section a bit harder. I'll change this if needed lol

Light Insane
  1. 00:07:167 (1,2,3,4) - this seems really cluttered intended, I use this pattern many times through the map
  2. 00:19:738 (1,2) - I think there should be a bit more spacing here if you meant spacing between the slider bodies - then yes, I increased it a bit
  3. 00:36:595 (3) - since you're following vocals here i think this slider should also be a long one. Maybe a 3/4 slider? not really, I switch to drums in the next few objects, it should be fine - I'd even rather say that this kickslider indicates this transition quite well
  4. 01:04:310 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think there's anything in the music to justify a spacing increase I think someone mentioned this already, imo those four sliders could be considered as a buildup to the peak of the kiai. again, I'd like to keep this but I'll change it if needed
  5. 01:07:453 (5,1) - ok not really a problem but 5 doesnt totally line up with 1 which triggered me lol whooops there was actually another issue with this one that went unnoticed, fixed!
  6. 01:08:738 (1,2) - blanket how did THAT happen
  7. 01:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - same comment as 01:04:310 (1,2,3,4) same reasoning lo
  8. 01:22:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - it would be better if u used the same rhythm as 01:21:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - those two sliders follow the vocals nicely and give the player a little break, since I don't want to go with 14 1/2 circles in a row xd

Gl with this set!
thanks!
Mentai
@dro tbh i cant believe most people (including me) didnt spot this ctrl+g error. thank you
the ds is this way because its an actual hard, since there is an advamced and more lower diffs

@chrononig keeping flow break, and the pattern here 00:42:310 (6) is mimicking the pattern from earlier, so its fine. also thew bends at the end are fine

fixed the rest ty

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hlanden
Just a random bad #modreq NM, coming because of the nice song

Chaos
  1. 00:20:738 (1,2,3) - Maybe you could try doing something like ^
  2. 01:00:024 (3,4) - ^
  3. 01:00:595 (5,2) - This also looks better after changing 5 to a straight slider
  4. 01:11:310 (2,3) - I suggest higher spacing here.
  5. 01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - ^, especially here, these are like the loudest sounds of the whole map yet you have a lot bigger jumps before these.

    This is all for this difficulty, not really much to note since I'm not very experienced with modding difficulties of this high SR anyway


Zel's Extreme
  1. 00:12:310 (3,4,5,6) and 00:11:167 (3,4,5,6) and all the 4 jumps really - could be a bit better aesthetically if you aligned those a bit but I'd understand if you just want to leave them look a bit messier.
  2. 00:22:453 (3,1) - This slider shape usage is not that good because earlier on in the map (00:10:310 (1) ) u used this shape to map quite a different sound than just normal percussion, you should change these to more smooth shapes for better visual consistency.
  3. 00:39:738 (3) - ^ . Another fix to this actually would be changing the first slider to a different, unused shape.
  4. 01:26:024 (1) - Nice slider shape! Nothing more to say about this diff :D



eze's Extra
  1. 00:47:738 (3,5) - Blanket these
  2. 00:49:167 (7,1) - This looks a bit better imo
  3. 00:54:595 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think you need bigger spacing here, the music is getting quite intense.
  4. 01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - Again, those are the strongest sounds you can hear in the song, bigger spacing would be better.

    Nothing more to say, maybe you could make "prettier" sliders on the slow part with the lots of red anchors because it's calm but hey that's just subjective and you still do reverse emphasizing in this case so maybe this is okay.


Asuka_-'s Insane

Favourite difficulty hands down. Nothing much I can say here.

Light Insane
  1. 00:20:738 (1,2) - Why not just make them the same shape for better visuals?
  2. 00:55:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 8 singletaps feels a bit too much for this difficulty and not even in the kiai part.
  3. 01:00:738 - See this sound left out here compared to the singletaps I talked about earlier means a big no no in my opinion because of inconsistency in where the actual harder stuff should be, I don't know though.
  4. 01:03:310 - ^, no point in pointing out all of those but I think they should be mapped.

    Other than that all good :)


Mentai's Hard
  1. 00:35:738 (1,2) - This looks sliiiightly off to me, not sure tho.

    Good diff here :)


And nothing to say about the easier diffs either, that's all I can contribute, hope I was helpful :)


Good luck with the map :)
Topic Starter
Jabba

hlanden wrote:

Just a random bad #modreq NM, coming because of the nice song

Chaos
  1. 00:20:738 (1,2,3) - Maybe you could try doing something like would kinda break the flow and I don't want that
  2. 00:32:595 (2,3) - [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8647860'>^ ^
  3. 01:00:024 (3,4) - ^ ^
  4. 01:00:595 (5,2) - This also looks better after changing 5 to a straight slider (5) is not supposed to be straight huh, it's the same pattern I used before (00:02:881 (3,4,5) - and so on)
  5. 01:11:310 (2,3) - I suggest higher spacing here. whoosh this wasn't supposed to touch (5), I thought I fixed this
  6. 01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - ^, especially here, these are like the loudest sounds of the whole map yet you have a lot bigger jumps before these. not really, this is more of a calm-down after those jumps, especially with the spinner before

    This is all for this difficulty, not really much to note since I'm not very experienced with modding difficulties of this high SR anyway


Light Insane
  1. 00:20:738 (1,2) - Why not just make them the same shape for better visuals? different sounds first of all, and I want to blanket 00:20:310 (3) - 's body with (2)
  2. 00:55:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 8 singletaps feels a bit too much for this difficulty and not even in the kiai part. should be fine, this is an intense part
  3. 01:00:738 - See this sound left out here compared to the singletaps I talked about earlier means a big no no in my opinion because of inconsistency in where the actual harder stuff should be, I don't know though. this is not even an intense part of kiai, I only skipped red ticks with almost no sounds so it shouldn't be a problem
  4. 01:03:310 - ^, no point in pointing out all of those but I think they should be mapped. ^

    Other than that all good :)



Good luck with the map :)
thanks!
hlanden

Jabba wrote:

hlanden wrote:

Just a random bad #modreq NM, coming because of the nice song

Chaos
  1. 00:20:738 (1,2,3) - Maybe you could try doing something like would kinda break the flow and I don't want that
  2. 00:32:595 (2,3) - [url=http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8647860'>^ ^
  3. 01:00:024 (3,4) - ^ ^
  4. 01:00:595 (5,2) - This also looks better after changing 5 to a straight slider (5) is not supposed to be straight huh, it's the same pattern I used before (00:02:881 (3,4,5) - and so on)
  5. 01:11:310 (2,3) - I suggest higher spacing here. whoosh this wasn't supposed to touch (5), I thought I fixed this
  6. 01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - ^, especially here, these are like the loudest sounds of the whole map yet you have a lot bigger jumps before these. not really, this is more of a calm-down after those jumps, especially with the spinner before

    This is all for this difficulty, not really much to note since I'm not very experienced with modding difficulties of this high SR anyway


Light Insane
  1. 00:20:738 (1,2) - Why not just make them the same shape for better visuals? different sounds first of all, and I want to blanket 00:20:310 (3) - 's body with (2)
  2. 00:55:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 8 singletaps feels a bit too much for this difficulty and not even in the kiai part. should be fine, this is an intense part
  3. 01:00:738 - See this sound left out here compared to the singletaps I talked about earlier means a big no no in my opinion because of inconsistency in where the actual harder stuff should be, I don't know though. this is not even an intense part of kiai, I only skipped red ticks with almost no sounds so it shouldn't be a problem
  4. 01:03:310 - ^, no point in pointing out all of those but I think they should be mapped. ^

    Other than that all good :)



Good luck with the map :)
thanks!
Sorry if it wasn't very useful :D
Atomosphere
hi from mod req!
did you ask for a BN yesterday cuz i think i saw that..

Chaos

I have a few problems with this diff:

00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) and 00:15:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - has uncomfortable movement and after this there is an abrupt change in flow at 00:16:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2)
00:19:738 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - The spacing is quite random in this section. There are sounds that are the exact same but have different spacing
00:39:738 (1,2) - More movement then actually needed. (aka. Make this have better flow pls)
00:58:595 (1,2,3,4,5) - Uncomfortable movement, you could do something similar but change the pattern a bit
01:04:453 (2,3,4,5) - ^^
01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Messy jumps make them flow better
01:07:738 (1,2,3,4,5) - Uncomfortable Movement
01:13:310 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^^
01:16:024 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Is this really necessary
01:21:453 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - messy jumble of mess pls remap this entire section, it also changes flow very abruptly

Also i think this BG would be a better choice: http://i.imgur.com/wjEevOq.jpg

It's fun but looking at a modding perspective it does have a few problems. Just fix those up and we'll see how this map goes!
Topic Starter
Jabba

Atomosphere wrote:

hi from mod req!
did you ask for a BN yesterday cuz i think i saw that..

Chaos

I have a few problems with this diff:

00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) and 00:15:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - has uncomfortable movement and after this there is an abrupt change in flow at 00:16:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) disagree, 00:15:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is basically an up-and-down movement, so is 00:16:310 (1,2,3,4) - . same goes for 00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , but the notes after are a bit more rotated to indicate the end of this section, while still maintaining the flow
00:19:738 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - The spacing is quite random in this section. There are sounds that are the exact same but have different spacing emphasizing the vocals huh, and even with that the changes are still quite minor so it's not even that noticeable. though 00:25:167 (5) - was off so I fixed it
00:39:738 (1,2) - More movement then actually needed. (aka. Make this have better flow pls) uhhh not at all, just a simple back-and-forth movement, since you don't really have to follow the sliders - they're not that curved
00:58:595 (1,2,3,4,5) - Uncomfortable movement, you could do something similar but change the pattern a bit spin your cursor in circles and you can hit those
01:04:453 (2,3,4,5) - ^^ move your cursor in an arc and you can hit those
01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Messy jumps make them flow better I could explain pretty much eveything about those jumps, but I'll just say that 01:06:453 (2,1,2) - is an intended flow break because the background music changes there. rest follows either the 1-2-3-1-2-3 or 1-2-1-2 patterns in music
01:07:738 (1,2,3,4,5) - Uncomfortable Movement same
01:13:310 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^^ same
01:16:024 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Is this really necessary uh, yes? it's another climatic part of kiai, not as strong as 01:05:453 - but still intense enough to have 6 jumps
01:21:453 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - messy jumble of mess pls remap this entire section, it also changes flow very abruptly I'm sorry if you can't do back-and-forth jumps

Also i think this BG would be a better choice: http://i.imgur.com/wjEevOq.jpg nah I'm fine with this one tbh

It's fun but looking at a modding perspective it does have a few problems. Just fix those up and we'll see how this map goes!
no offense dude, but it might be worth learning how to play before modding hard maps!
thanks!
Atomosphere

Jabba wrote:

Atomosphere wrote:

hi from mod req!
did you ask for a BN yesterday cuz i think i saw that..

Chaos

I have a few problems with this diff:

00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) and 00:15:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - has uncomfortable movement and after this there is an abrupt change in flow at 00:16:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) disagree, 00:15:167 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is basically an up-and-down movement, so is 00:16:310 (1,2,3,4) - . same goes for 00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , but the notes after are a bit more rotated to indicate the end of this section, while still maintaining the flow
00:19:738 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - The spacing is quite random in this section. There are sounds that are the exact same but have different spacing emphasizing the vocals huh, and even with that the changes are still quite minor so it's not even that noticeable. though 00:25:167 (5) - was off so I fixed it
00:39:738 (1,2) - More movement then actually needed. (aka. Make this have better flow pls) uhhh not at all, just a simple back-and-forth movement, since you don't really have to follow the sliders - they're not that curved
00:58:595 (1,2,3,4,5) - Uncomfortable movement, you could do something similar but change the pattern a bit spin your cursor in circles and you can hit those
01:04:453 (2,3,4,5) - ^^ move your cursor in an arc and you can hit those
01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Messy jumps make them flow better I could explain pretty much eveything about those jumps, but I'll just say that 01:06:453 (2,1,2) - is an intended flow break because the background music changes there. rest follows either the 1-2-3-1-2-3 or 1-2-1-2 patterns in music
01:07:738 (1,2,3,4,5) - Uncomfortable Movement same
01:13:310 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^^ same
01:16:024 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Is this really necessary uh, yes? it's another climatic part of kiai, not as strong as 01:05:453 - but still intense enough to have 6 jumps
01:21:453 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - messy jumble of mess pls remap this entire section, it also changes flow very abruptly I'm sorry if you can't do back-and-forth jumps

Also i think this BG would be a better choice: http://i.imgur.com/wjEevOq.jpg nah I'm fine with this one tbh

It's fun but looking at a modding perspective it does have a few problems. Just fix those up and we'll see how this map goes!
no offense dude, but it might be worth learning how to play before modding hard maps!
thanks!
so all your opinions are based off the skill of the player? OK. I guess i'll shoot kudosu at this, cause' it may actually go somewhere..
Topic Starter
Jabba

Atomosphere wrote:

so all your opinions are based off the skill of the player? OK. I guess i'll shoot kudosu at this, cause' it may actually go somewhere..
not really, but you're the first person to have problems with the flow there, since all the jumps are arranged in a pretty much simple way and even more low-ranked players were fine with those jumps. no offense, yet again, and thanks for the star!
Atomosphere

Jabba wrote:

Atomosphere wrote:

so all your opinions are based off the skill of the player? OK. I guess i'll shoot kudosu at this, cause' it may actually go somewhere..
not really, but you're the first person to have problems with the flow there, since all the jumps are arranged in a pretty much simple way and even more low-ranked players were fine with those jumps. no offense, yet again, and thanks for the star!
well people have opinions
Topic Starter
Jabba

Atomosphere wrote:

well people have opinions
true, but sometimes one's opinion is quite unpopular (considering I got a ton of testplays already), thus I don't really want to change this
CutEddie
Updated c:
Asuka_-

Noffy wrote:

[Asuka_-'s Insane]
  1. 00:05:881 (5) - Ehh... there isn't really a sound here to click to. Stacking it on top of the really strong 00:06:024 (1) - weaken's (1)'s impact in the map as well. I'd suggest figuring out a pattern where you can extend 00:05:595 (4) - to be 1/1 instead.
    okay made (4) to 1/2 reverse >w<
  2. 00:33:310 (5) - Again, there isn't really a sound here for clicking to. All of the higher difficulties even have it mapped as a sliderend!
    yea good point, but i want to keep because 00:32:881 (4,5,1) - is following vocal, 00:33:310 (5) - emphasize naxt slidervocal. i added hitsound to (5) instead.!
  3. 00:45:024 (2) - Not that it makes a difference but why the random white node in the middle? haha
    fixed~
  4. 00:56:024 (4,1) - The angle here, in my opinion, is faar smaller than it should be, and as a result makes the entirety of 00:56:310 (1,2,3,4) - more difficult to play than it would have been on its own.
    neafed them~
  5. 01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - Consider setting the combo color for these to be something else, the light blue blends in with the default spinner.
    nice
thanks!!

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340,13,73024,1,0,0:0:0:0:
485,83,73167,1,8,0:0:0:0:
331,170,73310,6,0,P|338:211|350:252,1,85,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
495,330,73595,1,2,0:0:0:0:
495,330,73738,2,0,P|453:344|395:356,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
233,284,74024,1,2,0:0:0:0:
329,336,74167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
163,384,74310,2,0,L|148:293,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,138,74595,5,2,0:0:0:0:
218,208,74738,1,2,0:0:0:0:
218,208,74881,2,0,P|224:172|233:108,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
338,29,75167,1,2,0:0:0:0:
169,63,75310,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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491,262,75881,1,2,0:0:0:0:
368,371,76024,2,0,P|308:366|270:356,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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314,214,76453,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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190,137,76738,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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234,237,77738,1,2,0:0:0:0:
164,326,77881,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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168,101,80167,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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488,210,80881,2,0,P|499:183|508:133,1,76.4999976654053,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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225,373,84310,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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406,291,84738,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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177,39,85595,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Jabba
did some changes to zel's and eze's diffs bcs they seem to be a lil bit dead now
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