Ito Kanako - Uncontrollable (TV Size) · forum

Jabba

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Jabba 2017-06-08T18:25:16+00:00

find me some bns ;_; I posted in pishi's queue tho, waiting for any signs lol

7ambda

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7ambda 2017-06-08T18:34:56+00:00

01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - 01:21:453 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You either lack creativity to express the kiais, or you're overestimating their intensities.

Jabba

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Jabba 2017-06-08T18:47:17+00:00

F1r3tar wrote:
01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - 01:21:453 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You either lack creativity to express the kiais, or you're overestimating their intensities.

I just don't want them to look random, thus it's patternized (esp the second one, which clearly has that 1-2-1-2 pattern in the music, the jumps reflect it as well)
as for the first section, the placement there is a bit more free, but it still follows the patterns in music
and I wonder why you didn't mention this 00:54:024 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - as well lmao

ikaNyai

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ikaNyai 2017-06-09T20:40:41+00:00

just a small little mod ;w;
i'm not really understand at modding so i go by how I feel is wired when playing ;w; sorry!!
also please dont take it seriously ! just some my self opinion ><

click me ><

[chaos]
00:27:881 (2) - 378 218
00:40:024 (2) - mayebe is better in smth like this
00:42:595 (1) - put on 00:41:310 (2) -
00:44:024 (3) - end more toward start of 00:44:310 (4) -
00:45:881 (2) - a little bit right like 380 244
00:46:167 (3) - 196 38 ( 00:46:310 (4) - 255 305)
00:57:024 (5) - ctrl +g
01:30:024 (1) - around 170 350 (a bit left)
00:29:167 (2) - around ? 231 147
00:32:167 (1) - maybe put on 00:31:595 (4) - ?
01:14:881 (3) - 325 313?
01:18:310 (6) - ctrl +G ? (if you change this then also with 01:19:453 (2) - )

that all what i can give (run)
good luck ></ its actually relly funmap and give pp D:

Jabba

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Jabba 2017-06-09T20:57:35+00:00

ikaNyai wrote:
just a small little mod ;w;
i'm not really understand at modding so i go by how I feel is wired when playing ;w; sorry!!
also please dont take it seriously ! just some my self opinion ><

click me ><
[chaos]
00:27:881 (2) - 378 218 did smth similar to blanket it with (3)
00:40:024 (2) - mayebe is better in smth like this those are the same as 00:39:024 (2) -
00:42:595 (1) - put on 00:41:310 (2) - it's rather snapped to the anchor
00:44:024 (3) - end more toward start of 00:44:310 (4) - ye
00:45:881 (2) - a little bit right like 380 244 woah this overlaps with 00:45:024 (2) - apparently, fixed
00:46:167 (3) - 196 38 ( 00:46:310 (4) - 255 305) this one is supposed to have lower DS
00:57:024 (5) - ctrl +g intended, creates some kind of a up-down-up-down flow
01:30:024 (1) - around 170 350 (a bit left) those should be fine as I made them symmetrical
00:29:167 (2) - around ? 231 147 blanketed by 00:29:453 (4) -
00:32:167 (1) - maybe put on 00:31:595 (4) - ? (1) blankets (4)'s end
01:14:881 (3) - 325 313? the angle would be too sharp then; I rather changed it to be more comfortable
01:18:310 (6) - ctrl +G ? (if you change this then also with 01:19:453 (2) - ) this sound is similar to 01:18:024 (5) - and thus has the same direction, unlike 01:18:595 (7) -

that all what i can give (run)
good luck ></

thanks!

Jennifer

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Jennifer 2017-06-10T01:45:39+00:00

sorry for short mod, there wasnt much i found
[advanced]
01:07:024 (2) - can you change this into a curved slider? (ctrl+c 01:05:881 (2) - ) it looks weird D:

[hard]
00:03:738 - why is this being ignored? should have a note
00:43:595 (4) - personal preference, change s- slider into something like 00:40:453 (2) - or 00:45:024 (2) - ,the two sound suggest more fierce so i think something with red joint would be nicer

[chaos]
00:27:024 (2) - ctrl g

Jabba

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Jabba 2017-06-10T01:57:57+00:00

Jennglebells wrote:
sorry for short mod, there wasnt much i found
[advanced]
01:07:024 (2) - can you change this into a curved slider? (ctrl+c 01:05:881 (2) - ) it looks weird D: didn't exactly copy it but added a slight curve

[chaos]
00:27:024 (2) - ctrl g intended, the flow gets a bit more harsh there to indicate the transition to the next section

thanks!
also @Mentai: 01:06:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'm not sure that hitsounding all of those with claps is a good idea LOL

Mentai

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Mentai 2017-06-10T19:11:57+00:00

@jennglebells prefer to map vocals here ; (

thx

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Affirmation

2,543 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-06-11T10:52:24+00:00

Q

[Chaos]
00:14:810 - looks overmapping?
01:06:738 (1,2) - swap NC

GL

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-11T10:56:47+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Q

[Chaos]
00:14:810 - looks overmapping? there's that wubby sound in the background
01:06:738 (1,2) - swap NC uhhhh, fixed

GL

thanks!

-LynX-

131 posts

Joined December 2013

-LynX- 2017-06-12T19:06:58+00:00

NM from queue, nice song

Normal

Nothing much to say, nice map

Advanced

00:16:310 (1) - i think this shouldn't be NC-ed, following previous patterns
00:31:167 (1) - minor, but maybe rotate this 90 degrees clockwise? i think it will look better
00:38:595 (2,3) - also very minor, but these 2 sliders represent different sounds but play similarly, maybe make 2->3 a 90 degree angle or something, like this 00:43:167 (2,3) - , or maybe make the sliders' shapes different
01:02:738 (5,1,2) - similarly, make 1 a different shape or make 5->1->2 angled instead of a straight line, since 1 is a different sound
Another nice map

Mentai's Hard

Isn't AR8.5 a bit too high for a 3.2* hard diff? 8 would fit better i think
00:03:738 - it's kinda weird that this sound is skipped, especially when the spacing from 4->1 in 00:03:167 (4,1,2) - and the spacing from 1->2 looks similar, but 4->1 is 1.5/1 and 1->2 is 1/1. if you want to skip the sound i suggest increase the spacing for 4->1
Nothing much to say too, clean map

Light Insane

00:19:738 (1) - from this point onwards the music calms down quite a bit, maybe lower sv? i know it's a hassle since you have lots of blankets and everything but yeah
Nice m...

Asuka_-'s Insane

00:08:738 (3,4,5,6) - maybe NC 3 and 5?
00:28:595 (4) - minor visual suggestion, perhaps use some red anchors for this slider for the distinct sound
00:37:453 (4) - perhaps NC this, since the spacing from 2->3 and 3->4 is similar but 3->4 is 1/1
01:12:881 (3,4,5,1) - maybe this will flow better? https://puu.sh/wiar4/48b97677d1.png

eze's Extra

00:02:595 (1) - maybe red anchor for this like before
00:20:310 (4) - don't think an extended slider is necessary here, it's just normal vocals
00:26:595 (1,2) - maybe something like this will be smoother to play? https://puu.sh/wibj7/05be53b908.png
00:34:595 (1) - i think if you move this downwards a little the flow will be better
00:47:738 (3,5) - i think if you 5 blanket 3 flow will be improved + sharper movement from 5->1
fun to play

that's all from me, hope you rank this soon

here's a star xd

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-12T19:24:06+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
NM from queue, nice song
Advanced
00:16:310 (1) - i think this shouldn't be NC-ed, following previous patterns LOL good job on noticing, I let that slip smh
00:31:167 (1) - minor, but maybe rotate this 90 degrees clockwise? i think it will look better did smth similar
00:38:595 (2,3) - also very minor, but these 2 sliders represent different sounds but play similarly, maybe make 2->3 a 90 degree angle or something, like this 00:43:167 (2,3) - , or maybe make the sliders' shapes different those are actually the same, they both represent those 3 claps in the background
01:02:738 (5,1,2) - similarly, make 1 a different shape or make 5->1->2 angled instead of a straight line, since 1 is a different sound made it a bit more angled
Another nice map

Light Insane
00:19:738 (1) - from this point onwards the music calms down quite a bit, maybe lower sv? i know it's a hassle since you have lots of blankets and everything but yeah ye that'd be a pain in the ass tbh, I think it's not that crucial
Nice m...

that's all from me, hope you rank this soon here's a star xd

thanks!
@Zel: 01:05:167 (5,1) - unstacked smh

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2017-06-12T19:58:11+00:00

[Chaos]
00:10:310 (5) - why such low SV for that fat clap!
my main problem with this diff is you have like 4* section and the some 7* section, diff spike is so unbalanced...
all your jumps are hard, and when you come to map sliders you map just like a 4*... looks like this diff has been buffed just by using jumps full screen..
you'll get shittons of drama if you try to rank this
imo i would consider (if u want to keep the 7*) nerfing some jumps 01:23:452 (1,2) - like this holy xd and try to buff low section, the spacing you use sometimes is really low stuff like 01:01:024 (2) - this is undermapped, 01:02:738 (4) - same here you skip claps..
01:04:595 (3,4,5) - great exemple here, this is totally undermapped..
so yeah pretty unbalanced diff here.

[Zel's Extreme]
00:05:310 (3) - you skipping a kick by using 1/1 slider
00:05:953 (5) - there's no sound here
00:57:024 (1) - make that tail clickable
01:11:024 (1) - why using 1/4 slider here?
01:23:738 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - why reducing spacing here, it's literally the same peech volume
01:24:881 (1) - remove kiai here
01:26:024 (1) - ending of the star looks weird xd

[eze's Extra]
00:31:881 (5,1) - spacing here is really low, unstack it
00:35:453 (1,1) - huge spacing here
00:40:024 (1) - useless nc
00:42:310 (1) - ^
00:44:595 (1) - ^
01:02:024 (1,2) - i want to click those vocals

01:11:167 (1,2) - same
01:19:595 (2) - that rhythm here is wrong, pls do smth so the clap cna be clickable
01:23:738 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - why reducing spacing since it's same volume peech

[Azuka's Insane]
00:10:167 (5) - wat, please make this clap clickable here.. and 1/4 is not appropriate here
00:19:453 (2,1) - wat a juge spacing, consider lowering this
cool diff

GL

Wesyuu

3 posts

Joined May 2015

Wesyuu 2017-06-12T20:08:05+00:00

delet mup

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-12T20:22:27+00:00

Wesyuu wrote:
delet pleise

[chaos]
00:01:453 (1) - remap pls
giff kds pls thx

Sotarks wrote:
[Chaos]
00:10:310 (5) - why such low SV for that fat clap! idk for me that's more of a 'woosh' sound that calls for low SV
my main problem with this diff is you have like 4* section and the some 7* section, diff spike is so unbalanced...
all your jumps are hard, and when you come to map sliders you map just like a 4*... looks like this diff has been buffed just by using jumps full screen..
you'll get shittons of drama if you try to rank this
imo i would consider (if u want to keep the 7*) nerfing some jumps 01:23:452 (1,2) - like this holy xd and try to buff low section, the spacing you use sometimes is really low stuff like 01:01:024 (2) - this is undermapped, 01:02:738 (4) - same here you skip claps..
01:04:595 (3,4,5) - great exemple here, this is totally undermapped..
so yeah pretty unbalanced diff here.

k so I'll try to explain this a bit, first of all I checked oppai-chunks (say what you want but this shows the diffspikes pretty much fine) and this is what I got. it's visible that the map has a bit of buildup in the beginning, then comes to a halt when the verse starts, then builds up to kiai, has a lil spike before kiai and then keeps the diff through the kiai, having a spike in the middle (and actually at the end but it broke smh). 01:23:452 (1,2) - this should be the biggest jump cause it combines both the instrumentals from this section and has two vocal syllables on it. but I actually nerfed the next pattern a bit. idk why you didn't mention 01:06:310 (1,2) - because this is gonna be the most controversial jump imo. lots of downbeats are skipped cause I mainly map to vocals (01:02:738 (4) - , 01:04:595 (3,4,5) - etcetc) overall, I agree that there are four diff spikes, but they do not stand out that much.
e: after some thoughts I added some spacing to sliders in kiai
GL

thanks!

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-06-13T01:14:18+00:00

hi

[normal]
00:14:024 (3,4) - would be good if you consistently used this there 00:11:738 (3) - cuz they sound the same.

[advanced]
01:01:881 (4,5) - atleast sampleset drum should be added since this entire part is suddenly very quiet and cant really hear the feedback
01:11:024 (4,5) - ^

[mentai]
delete green point: 00:37:595 - cuz its same setting as previous point
00:10:310 (3) - finish

[light insane]
00:02:453 (1) -
00:13:167 (2,3) - should`ve been a slider
01:14:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - i like this
01:30:024 (1,2) - removing these and ending slider at 01:30:024 seems adequate from my perspective since noise in the end isnt really 4 distinctive notes to begin with.

[asuka]
00:06:024 (1) - sliderになるのがいいと思います
00:10:167 (5) - ここにcircleを使ってください。強いbeatがあるから。
00:37:453 (1) - NCはどうですか。00:37:024 (2,3,1) - distanceは同じですけと、timeline-dsは違うです。
01:26:024 (1) - ここにcircleをつかって、spinnerを01:26:095 - に始まるのがいいです。

[eze]
fine

not much since its pretty clean. gl

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2017-06-13T01:33:08+00:00

@lynx i decided if a BN is upset with the skipped note, i'll add it. it's silly to me that so many people disagree with it

@sidetail i did clap instead

ar is 8 because lynx is right xd

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Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-13T05:34:55+00:00

Sidetail wrote:
hi

[normal]
00:14:024 (3,4) - would be good if you consistently used this there 00:11:738 (3) - cuz they sound the same. by using 1/1 + 2 circles I want to emphasize that wubby sound in the background (which is mapped as 1/4 kicksliders in higher diffs), I think it's fine

[advanced]
01:01:881 (4,5) - atleast sampleset drum should be added since this entire part is suddenly very quiet and cant really hear the feedback true, but I guess that'd be kind of overmapping with hitsounds? gotta think about it, I don't really want to add a note on the white tick there since I'm mapping vocals in the entire diff
01:11:024 (4,5) - ^ ^

[light insane]
00:02:453 (1) -
00:13:167 (2,3) - should`ve been a slider variety smh, progressing with patterning is fine
01:14:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - i like this me too thanks
01:30:024 (1,2) - removing these and ending slider at 01:30:024 seems adequate from my perspective since noise in the end isnt really 4 distinctive notes to begin with. idk, lit120 pointed this out as well, this clearly has 4 claps tho?
not much since its pretty clean. gl

thanks!

My Angel Kitten

121 posts

Joined September 2015

My Angel Kitten 2017-06-14T17:26:24+00:00

hi from my queue~

Light Insane

- 00:01:453 (1,2) - blanket
- 00:02:024 (3,1) - blanket
- 00:04:310 (3,4) - ^
- 00:01:453 - untill 00:10:310 - slow slider like 85% velocity make better, vocal and music still in quiete
- 00:19:738 - untill 00:28:881 - slow vocal too, better use 70% or 75% velocity
- 00:38:024 - here too untill 00:47:167 - , the vocal and music start slow, better use 70% or something like that
- 01:03:453 (2,3) - blanket
- 01:00:881 (1,2) - blanket
- 01:02:738 (4,1) - blanket
- 01:11:881 (4,1) - blanket
- 01:12:595 (2,3) - blanket
- 01:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - overlapped
- 01:15:310 (5,1) - blanket
- 01:30:024 (1,2) - better you focus put this end of patter at middle (personal perception)
- note : you can ignore which is blanket or not

Asuka_- 's Insane

- 00:30:310 (3,4) - overlap?

eze's Extra

- 00:08:024 (1,1) - blanket
- 00:19:310 (1,2) - ^
- 01:15:881 (2,1) - overlap
- 01:17:024 (1,2) - blanket
- 01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - make better squere i guess?

thats all for me, sorry if i had mistake. good luck!

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-14T19:40:04+00:00

My Angel Kitten wrote:
hi from my queue~

[notice]
Light Insane
- 00:01:453 (1,2) - blanket
- 00:02:024 (3,1) - blanket ya this was a lil bit off
- 00:04:310 (3,4) - ^ this one is fine but (2)-(4) was a bit off so I fixed it
- 00:01:453 - untill 00:10:310 - slow slider like 85% velocity make better, vocal and music still in quietethis is not that crucial imo, should be fine as it is + tbh I'm too lazy to remap it with lower SV :')
- 00:19:738 - untill 00:28:881 - slow vocal too, better use 70% or 75% velocity ^
- 00:38:024 - here too untill 00:47:167 - , the vocal and music start slow, better use 70% or something like that k this one is easier to implement since the whole section is ctrl-c ctrl-v but that'd make it the only section with different SV and I don't really want that
- 01:03:453 (2,3) - blanket this one is already fine?
- 01:00:881 (1,2) - blanket this one is good as well
- 01:02:738 (4,1) - blanket uh dude you might want to enable stacking in editor cause idk those are all good
- 01:11:881 (4,1) - blanket so is this one
- 01:12:595 (2,3) - blanket k this one was a bit off
- 01:13:453 (1,2,3,4) - overlapped what's wrong with that, this is a pattern that I use like three times in the whole map
- 01:15:310 (5,1) - blanket yes
- 01:30:024 (1,2) - better you focus put this end of patter at middle (personal perception) changed this a bit, imo it's fine if it's not in the middle
- note : you can ignore which is blanket or not
thats all for me, sorry if i had mistake. good luck!

Yuuki Konno

51 posts

Joined March 2016

Yuuki Konno 2017-06-15T11:37:33+00:00

Asuka_-'s Insane

Problems

00:26:595 (1) - This spacing is too large, it contradicts previously set patterns. It would follow the patterns and look better blanketing the (2) slider.

01:01:881 (1,2,3,4) - You have your primary "clap" beats on the end of the sliders, but there is no loud noise at this part so it simply makes the sliders a bit more awkward for no reason.

01:06:453 (2,1) - The combo makes it seem like another full beat spacing. just remove the new combo and you're golden.

01:20:595 (2,3,4) - Distance is too short. An easy fix would be to make the 3 where the 4 is and have the 4 between the 3 and 2. like this: https://gyazo.com/6d6b15c8bc54cdf3081f5333c79b658e

Opinions

Warning: These could be a bit nit picky

00:09:310 (6,1) - The spacing between 1 and 6 seems too far, I first thought it was the same spacing as between 00:08:881 (4,5) - . That's just my opinion. (This spacing pattern is shown a few seconds later at 00:10:167 (5,1) - )

00:18:881 (1,2) - Currently this looks like this: https://gyazo.com/3d70764e2f6cf569b253ccfa8f32d888
When playing through this the flow felt better in this position: https://gyazo.com/3cc5c3f4d68a346bc7f55de97541a6d3

Chaos

Problems

I'de add combos to clairfy patterns here
-00:12:310 (5) -
-00:14:595 (5) -
-00:16:881 (5) -
-00:46:453 (5) - This one is because the previous noise sounds like a finisher, but then surprises the player with two subtle noises. (IE: these two notes catch the player off guard, so a new combo could pre-warn them of that.)

00:27:024 (2) - Should probably change to a slider and a note. This part is easy already for a 7*, so I wouldn't simplify it, it will just confuse the player since most 7*'s don't simplify much as is.

00:32:595 (2) - I would make this two notes since it doesn't follow the same rhythmic pattern as 00:32:881 (3,4) - these two.

00:59:453 (5) - This disturbs the flow. I would put it over the end of 01:00:310 (4) - this slider. It looks nicer, and doesn't disturb the flow of the map. The reason I say it disturbs the flow is because it creates a corner effect rather than a circular motion.

Opinions

00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This seems like a lot of stacking

00:48:738 (3,4,5) - Idk why a triplet would be here or 00:51:024 (4,5,6) - here... but if you want to keep one, I would recommend assigning hitsounds to the notes, as there isn't any actual musical representation of the triplet.

01:23:738 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Such massive jumps as these shouldn't be stacked in my opinion. To expect the player to completely stop, then immediately resume such a high speed seems harsh. Obviously, this is perfectly acceptable, but if there was a slight movement, I feel it would be a far more enjoyable experience.

Yuuki Konno

51 posts

Joined March 2016

Yuuki Konno 2017-06-15T12:06:51+00:00

I changed some of my recommendations for the asuka_-'s Insane, but I would still take the one's I've put with a pinch of salt

.
Although, I still stand by my Chaos recommendations. Especially the one about undermapping. Well best of luck to you!

hope we get another 7* ranked! The one's we have right now are boring!

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-15T12:13:05+00:00

Yuuki Konno wrote:
Chaos
Problems
I'de add combos to clairfy patterns here
-00:12:310 (5) -
-00:14:595 (5) -
-00:16:881 (5) -
-00:46:453 (5) - This one is because the previous noise sounds like a finisher, but then surprises the player with two subtle noises. (IE: these two notes catch the player off guard, so a new combo could pre-warn them of that.) the first three are fine, as for the fourth one - I NCd (6) instead cause the vocals start there; also 00:44:310 (1) - has a NC now

00:27:024 (2) - Should probably change to a slider and a note. This part is easy already for a 7*, so I wouldn't simplify it, it will just confuse the player since most 7*'s don't simplify much as is. 00:27:167 - has a weak sound first of all; then, I'm mapping to the vocals and this slider fits; also this section is kinda quiet so I don't use complex rhythms yet.

00:32:595 (2) - I would make this two notes since it doesn't follow the same rhythmic pattern as 00:32:881 (3,4) - these two. it is in fact the same pattern as 00:21:167 (2,3,4) - and many more, but (2)'s position is a bit different, so I changed it

00:59:453 (5) - This disturbs the flow. I would put it over the end of 01:00:310 (4) - this slider. It looks nicer, and doesn't disturb the flow of the map. The reason I say it disturbs the flow is because it creates a corner effect rather than a circular motion. this is fine imo, for me it plays like circular flow. also if I do that stack the DS would be a bit low and it'll be too close to (1) and (3), and I want to differentiate this sound from them

Opinions
00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This seems like a lot of stacking

00:48:738 (3,4,5) - Idk why a triplet would be here or 00:51:024 (4,5,6) - here... but if you want to keep one, I would recommend assigning hitsounds to the notes, as there isn't any actual musical representation of the triplet. the ones with sliders are a bit overmapped, I agree - I did this to be consistent with the rhythm, cause 00:48:738 (3,4,5) - and 00:51:024 (4,5,6) - are actual triples - you can hear the beat on the blue tick

01:23:738 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Such massive jumps as these shouldn't be stacked in my opinion. To expect the player to completely stop, then immediately resume such a high speed seems harsh. Obviously, this is perfectly acceptable, but if there was a slight movement, I feel it would be a far more enjoyable experience. the idea behind this was to 1) give the player a little break after all those fullscreens and 2) show that it's not an 1/2 gap but an 1/1 one, because if I put for example 01:24:167 (1) - in the bottom of the screen it could be misinterpreted as another 1/2 jump. I use the same patterning in this 00:38:024 - section, where each 1/1 gap is stacked and each 1/2 gap is a jump. I might change this if I have better ideas lol

thanks!

Feb

1,027 posts

Joined June 2014

Feb 2017-06-17T10:43:01+00:00

hi there

checked the metadata shortly, but should be according to the site. Who would have thought Ito kanako is written in Hiragana not Kanji oo
so it seems the lower diffs haven't been modded as much as the higher diffs, so I'm taking a look at these.

Normal

the main issue I've seen here is the really long and drawn out object placement with continous 1/1 rhythm. An example:
From 00:10:595 (1) - here to 00:17:453 (1) - this is 7 seconds of fully straining the hand of newbie players.
That's by the way one of the reasons I struggled to get my first map ranked and it was 180 bpm that time. Not only is it super straining for beginners, but also super dense and looks also very unclean.
A reason for this is honestly you trying to emphasize as much sounds as possible! That's not needed for an Easy difficulty.
It gets really obvious when you map such long drawn out stuff. I usually call this kind of mapping objectchaining.

Here a picture on how you can simplify this section..

click me

Since you kind of have an grasp on how to generate a reasonable spread with 1/1 for normal 1/2 for advanced its quite easy to change in Normal and Advacned.
Even though Advanced doesn't have this many issues regarding the above mentioned topic.

Goes for 00:28:881 (1) - and 00:47:167 (1) - from here on out as well. Super dense theres no gap between the objects at all makes it "look" unorganized and gives no variety.
Objects like 01:06:595 (2) - this can be deleted entirely to assure simpflication. If you delete this the pause or breakdown if you will gets represented nicely and you get partly rid of your density as well!

Other things:
00:29:453 (2) - Thats why vocal mapping sometimes is a pain in the ass and does not work at all.
Vocals usually have no timing signature and sometimes they just do not land on snapable beats. This is one example.
The vocal does not land directly on the red tick its on the blue tick here, but thats not super correct either.
Mapping them to the usual white tick is the best solution. This way you do not confuse the player.

However you mapped it this way all the time and sometimes they do land on the red tick.
That being said tho, mapping vocals in low tier diffs is not advised as above mentioned problems can happen all the time.

Advanced

Well the main issue is quite the same as in Normal and should really be dealt with.

00:10:595 (1) - lmao, This is what I suggested in Normal and it's way easier to play than what you did in Normal.

Honestly, just the same as in Normal. The vocal mapping is to forced to work efficently combined with the density this creates. Thats just the main concerns.

mental Hard

ar 7 is enough and fits the spread better 3-5.5-7-9

01:02:738 (8,1,2) - the flow is abit wanky here to play since the direction of 01:02:738 (8,1) - indicates an downwards movement, but it goes upwards and directly to the right. Also 01:02:738 (8,3) - the overlap doesn't quite fit with the rest of the map and looks abit unorganized.
01:11:881 (8,1) - here you did it the correct way :>
01:06:595 (1) - consider to simplify this section its really difficult to play. Remember its an 210 bpm song with 8 consecutive circles to tap in 1/2 speed. Doing an simplification like 2 circles + 1/2 slider and this one again fits well with the map design.

Asuka in the main roster insane
we meet again

what's up with your high AR's? 9.3 is way over the top again uhm 9.1 is like the max you should put on this. As on your other diff, no unreadable stuff nor hard rhythm at all.

00:19:310 (1,2,1) - this plays really wanky mainly because it's hard to identify 00:19:453 (2,1) - this as 1/4 rhythm when 00:19:310 (1,2) - this is also 1/4 but with different spacing.
00:10:595 (1) - this entire section plays like 3 star and 00:58:595 (1) - this plays like 5 star. Consider buffing the 3 star section a bit.
01:07:453 (5,6,1) - the spacing kinda fits an extra, but this is abit over the top
01:09:453 (4) - could be emphasized more as the vocal is stronger than 3 and 1.

good luck

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-17T13:19:30+00:00

Feb wrote:
hi there

checked the metadata shortly, but should be according to the site. Who would have thought Ito kanako is written in Hiragana not Kanji oo
so it seems the lower diffs haven't been modded as much as the higher diffs, so I'm taking a look at these.

Normal

the main issue I've seen here is the really long and drawn out object placement with continous 1/1 rhythm. An example:
From 00:10:595 (1) - here to 00:17:453 (1) - this is 7 seconds of fully straining the hand of newbie players.
That's by the way one of the reasons I struggled to get my first map ranked and it was 180 bpm that time. Not only is it super straining for beginners, but also super dense and looks also very unclean.
A reason for this is honestly you trying to emphasize as much sounds as possible! That's not needed for an Easy difficulty.
It gets really obvious when you map such long drawn out stuff. I usually call this kind of mapping objectchaining.

Here a picture on how you can simplify this section..

click me

Since you kind of have an grasp on how to generate a reasonable spread with 1/1 for normal 1/2 for advanced its quite easy to change in Normal and Advacned.
Even though Advanced doesn't have this many issues regarding the above mentioned topic.

Goes for 00:28:881 (1) - and 00:47:167 (1) - from here on out as well. Super dense theres no gap between the objects at all makes it "look" unorganized and gives no variety.
Objects like 01:06:595 (2) - this can be deleted entirely to assure simpflication. If you delete this the pause or breakdown if you will gets represented nicely and you get partly rid of your density as well!

Other things:
00:29:453 (2) - Thats why vocal mapping sometimes is a pain in the ass and does not work at all.
Vocals usually have no timing signature and sometimes they just do not land on snapable beats. This is one example.
The vocal does not land directly on the red tick its on the blue tick here, but thats not super correct either.
Mapping them to the usual white tick is the best solution. This way you do not confuse the player.

However you mapped it this way all the time and sometimes they do land on the red tick.
That being said tho, mapping vocals in low tier diffs is not advised as above mentioned problems can happen all the time.

Advanced

Well the main issue is quite the same as in Normal and should really be dealt with.

00:10:595 (1) - lmao, This is what I suggested in Normal and it's way easier to play than what you did in Normal.

Honestly, just the same as in Normal. The vocal mapping is to forced to work efficently combined with the density this creates. Thats just the main concerns.

k so first of all, I found some sections in advanced that are mapped less dense than in normal. swapped them
idk about normal being too hard, it's not an easy diff after all and the biggest diffspike there is probably 5 circles in a row (happens twice). the thing is that I try to use similar rhythms all through the song so that the player kinda adapts to it, and almost all gaps between objects are the same so the player doesn't have to think about when to click after the previous object. regarding mapping to the vocals - I'll agree that advanced has more problems with that since they do not land on beats most of the time (hitsounds are retarded cause of that LOL). though, all of the gaps between objects are either 1/1 or 1/2 and that makes it easier to read. I like how those 3/2 sliders combine both the vocals and beats in normal so I guess I'll keep them for now
oh yes also about simplifying this 00:10:595 - section in normal - I think this is fine as it is, because using 2/1 sliders there would skip many beats, and this is not a calm section at all - that would make it too undermapped compared to the rest of the map
overall: swapped some patterns in normal and advanced, gotta think on how to change the rhythm in advanced to cover more beats, normal stays as it is rn - need more opinions cause I think it's fine rn

good luck

thanks!

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2017-06-17T17:10:12+00:00

@feb, i cant lower AR too much as it was mapped aesthetically for 8.5 originally, i think 8 is a good neutral ground. fixed everything but singletaps because not sure how to handle a change aesthetically in that section atm

thank you

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192,384,76453,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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72,140,76881,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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408,52,77738,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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232,88,79167,5,2,0:0:0:0:
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232,88,80881,1,8,0:0:0:0:
56,212,81167,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,86167,12,2,90024,0:0:0:0:

SUPER HYPER AYA

80 posts

Joined January 2017

SUPER HYPER AYA 2017-06-17T18:59:52+00:00

Hi From #Modreq
Sorry if it's small since i'm pretty new to modding but hope it helps
Great Mapset overall !

[Normal]
00:29:453 (2,3,3,1) - Think those sliders needs more soulds, like claps , without it, feels like a break in the rythm
00:58:595 (1,1,2,1,2) - Same

[Advanced]
00:17:453 (1) - I would get this one bit more spaced
00:58:310 (1) - This circle doesnt really match

[Mentai's Hard]
01:06:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I find the pattern not really in synch with the music, the square is fine but i think it would bet better to square 01:07:167 (5,6,7,8) - only and have sliders for the previous ones

[Light insane]
00:06:024 (1,2) - Having a circle and a slider right after for the same sound feels strange to play
00:27:738 (1,2) - Same but it matches 3 sounds , so less important
00:55:738 (5,6) - I would've spaced those two notes bc stacked circle and short reverse slider
00:58:310 (1) - Doesnt feels in synch with the voice

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-18T14:36:01+00:00

Ayato_k wrote:
Hi From #Modreq
Sorry if it's small since i'm pretty new to modding but hope it helps
Great Mapset overall !

[Normal]
00:29:453 (2,3,3,1) - Think those sliders needs more soulds, like claps , without it, feels like a break in the rythm mapping all white ticks in lowest diff would be kinda boring, and those 3/2 sliders nicely emphasize the vocals, blending both vocals and beats
00:58:595 (1,1,2,1,2) - Same same reasoning

[Advanced]
00:17:453 (1) - I would get this one bit more spaced should be fine, I'm keeping the DS
00:58:310 (1) - This circle doesnt really match uh, it's a new vocal line?

[Light insane]
00:06:024 (1,2) - Having a circle and a slider right after for the same sound feels strange to play they're not really the same, as (2) has the vocal line on it. I think that such patterning nicely emphasizes (1) as a downbeat - it's a strong beat and 00:06:167 - has almost no sound, and not mapping it results in more emphasis on 00:06:024 (1) -
00:27:738 (1,2) - Same but it matches 3 sounds , so less important true, there are 4 claps, but I'm mapping (1) as a slider to match the vocals as well
00:55:738 (5,6) - I would've spaced those two notes bc stacked circle and short reverse slider true, this one was rather strange. changed the pattern a bit
00:58:310 (1) - Doesnt feels in synch with the voice it actually is

thanks!

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2017-06-21T15:59:23+00:00

M4M

[Chaos]

00:15:024 (8) - this kicks is unnecessary since there isnt a cymbol sound, unlike the previous 2 kicks
00:47:595 - 00:49:881 (4) - triplet here would be much better then kick, since it express better to the music and give a nice emphasis on the sound
00:56:310 - spacing here is too small, since its still intense, so keep the spacing would be a better choice https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8402141
01:07:595 (2,1) - should emphasis 1 more since its a intense sound
01:22:024 (1,2) - spacing increased too much here, reduce a bit https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8402155

[Zel's Extreme]

00:05:738 (4,5,1) - inconsistent spacing, ur using x0.7 b4 but only x1.1 here
00:07:453 (2,3) - lol why the spacing is fking small here, should be similar with 00:07:738 (3,4) -
00:20:167 (3,4) - inconsistent spacing, tbh overlap here would be fine
00:56:738 (4,1) - spacing here is too similar with 1/2 gap, make the spacing bigger would give a nice separation
01:06:310 (4) - NC for consistent

[eze's Extra]

00:56:738 (1,2) - spacing here is too similar with 1/2 gap, make the spacing bigger would give a nice separation
G

[Asuka_-'s Insane]

00:18:024 - slowly decreasing the spacing would express better to the music, like Zel's Extreme
00:37:167 (3,4) - spacing here is too similar with 1/2 gap, make the spacing bigger would give a nice separation
G

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-21T16:15:18+00:00

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
M4M
[Chaos]
00:15:024 (8) - this kicks is unnecessary since there isnt a cymbol sound, unlike the previous 2 kicks there's that high pitched sound on those three ticks, it's fine
00:47:595 - 00:49:881 (4) - triplet here would be much better then kick, since it express better to the music and give a nice emphasis on the sound this was used before, a long time ago, the thing is that 00:49:953 - actually has no sound and mapping it as a triplet would be overmapping. so I decided to use kicksliders there to maintain the rhythm, also it makes it a bit easier (y'know lots of 210 bpm jumps and triples are stressful for player's hand)
00:56:310 - spacing here is too small, since its still intense, so keep the spacing would be a better choice https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8402141 more fullscreen jumps yay!! tweaked the pattern a bit
01:07:595 (2,1) - should emphasis 1 more since its a intense sound increased this jump a bit, I don't really want it to be the same as 01:07:310 (2,1) - for example since it's a different section already
01:22:024 (1,2) - spacing increased too much here, reduce a bit https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8402155 should be fine imo, 01:22:167 (2,2) - that's where drums appear and I think it should be spaced more than 01:21:595 (2,2) -

thanks!

Keada

656 posts

Joined June 2013

Keada 2017-06-21T17:59:43+00:00

Hi M4M

General

takuru-and-serika-chaos_child-(993) should be resolution 1366x768 unless they changed the rules.
The combo colours doesnt really fit the background, try to change it

Zel's Extreme
00:04:738 (1) - its a strong beat on a sliderend, not good.
00:05:310 (3) - same in the middle of this slider.
00:05:953 (5) - overmapped, remove it please.
00:10:024 (4,5) - overmapped
00:11:167 (3,4,5,6) - spacing issues
00:12:738 (6,1) - the jump between those 2 should be higher imo
00:15:024 (6,1) - ^
00:16:167 (6,1) - ^
00:47:453 (2) - ctrl+j then ctrl+g looks much better
00:56:310 (1,2,3,4) - should all have same spacing
01:03:310 (2,3) - the jump between this should be larger than the one between 01:03:167 (1,2) -
01:14:595 (1) - missing a hitsound

Chaos
00:04:738 - try to make the timeline look like this http://puu.sh/wqzsS/9a9fbd2e0e.jpg since the strong beats are on 00:04:881 - 00:05:453 -
00:07:024 (1) - same with this one
00:08:310 (1,2,3) - would flow much better if you did something simular to http://puu.sh/wqzEJ/8dc3d4104b.jpg
00:09:453 (1,2,3,4) - those should have the same spacing, since the sound doesnt change too much
00:11:738 - from this part and forward, im not sure why you increase the spacing all the time :S cause the sound is the same almost all the time on this part.
00:12:881 (1) - doesnt give much impact even tho this is a big white tick
00:26:595 (1,2) - move those 2 around x:360 y:188 so 00:26:595 (1) - blankets with 00:25:310 (1) - and the end of 00:27:024 (2) - stacks with 00:25:310 (1) -
00:17:595 (2,3) - should be the ones that are spaced tbh, just a suggestion, just makes it more flowy since the sliders are really fast. since or else you need to stop right before a fast slider and that makes it really akward to play
00:24:595 (3) - why doesnt this have the same spacing as 00:24:310 (1,2) -
00:25:310 (1) - make this also blanket the end of this slider 00:24:738 (4) - like this ish http://puu.sh/wqAlz/51cad9ed52.jpg
00:27:738 (1,2,3,4) - spacing problems again.
00:33:453 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:38:167 (2) - this slider wasnt really appealing to look at tbh D: if you want have it squary you should do something along these lines http://puu.sh/wqAt0/7c1311315d.jpg
00:42:738 (2) - try to make an extra white line so it makes it curvy on both sides, makes it look better imo as you did here 00:43:595 (2) -
00:48:167 (7) - why does this suddenly have alot increase in spacing? as the beat isnt strong
00:48:738 (3,4,5) - overmapped 00:48:810 (4) - I dont hear any beat here
01:06:453 (2) - this is completely overmapped, there is noooo music there and that far of a jump?
01:24:167 (1,2) - ctrl+g would make it more epic, and alot better to read

Rest of the diffs looks okay so.
Good luck with the map!

Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-21T20:14:43+00:00

Keada wrote:
Hi M4M

General
takuru-and-serika-chaos_child-(993) should be resolution 1366x768 unless they changed the rules. I think they changed it some time ago
The combo colours doesnt really fit the background, try to change it well I set them according to characters' hair xdd

Chaos
00:04:738 - try to make the timeline look like this http://puu.sh/wqzsS/9a9fbd2e0e.jpg since the strong beats are on 00:04:881 - 00:05:453 -
00:07:024 (1) - same with this one both are intended since I map to vocals
00:08:310 (1,2,3) - would flow much better if you did something simular to http://puu.sh/wqzEJ/8dc3d4104b.jpg
00:09:453 (1,2,3,4) - those should have the same spacing, since the sound doesnt change too much changed the pattern completely, fixed both of those points
00:11:738 - from this part and forward, im not sure why you increase the spacing all the time :S cause the sound is the same almost all the time on this part. imo this is some kind of a buildup, thus I slightly increase overall spacing as the song progresses
00:12:881 (1) - doesnt give much impact even tho this is a big white tick I already hate this pattern tbh. but I think I finally managed to get the flow right. this also fixed the DS
00:26:595 (1,2) - move those 2 around x:360 y:188 so 00:26:595 (1) - blankets with 00:25:310 (1) - and the end of 00:27:024 (2) - stacks with 00:25:310 (1) - yes
00:17:595 (2,3) - should be the ones that are spaced tbh, just a suggestion, just makes it more flowy since the sliders are really fast. since or else you need to stop right before a fast slider and that makes it really akward to play intended. imo such stacks nicely emphasize the claps + I stack them cause they're the same, and fast sliders create some kind of a circular flow. I might change this if people complain about it tho, but I like it as it is
00:24:595 (3) - why doesnt this have the same spacing as 00:24:310 (1,2) - agree, changed the pattern a bit
00:25:310 (1) - make this also blanket the end of this slider 00:24:738 (4) - like this ish http://puu.sh/wqAlz/51cad9ed52.jpg did smth else instead, your suggestion is good but doing that would require me to break like the whole pattern lol and I spent like 15 mins trying to figure out how to fix the previous point
00:27:738 (1,2,3,4) - spacing problems again. k those are fine because (3) and (4) have vocals as well, thus I space them more than (2)
00:33:453 (1,2,3,4) - ^ uh, sure, moved (3) a bit to match 00:24:310 (1,2,3,4) -
00:38:167 (2) - this slider wasnt really appealing to look at tbh D: if you want have it squary you should do something along these lines http://puu.sh/wqAt0/7c1311315d.jpg did smth else, the word 'square' gave me another idea lol
00:42:738 (2) - try to make an extra white line so it makes it curvy on both sides, makes it look better imo as you did here 00:43:595 (2) - whOOPS
00:48:167 (7) - why does this suddenly have alot increase in spacing? as the beat isnt strong imo that kind of 1-2-1-2 patterning (00:47:738 (4,5,6,7) - ) fits even if (7) is not that strong. I might change this if there are complaints about this lol
00:48:738 (3,4,5) - overmapped 00:48:810 (4) - I dont hear any beat here there actually is a triple, 00:47:667 - those ticks don't have a sound and thus I map them as sliderends cause I want to keep the rhythm
01:06:453 (2) - this is completely overmapped, there is noooo music there and that far of a jump? I think I explained this already somewhere, I believe that even if this note doesn't have a beat on it, it is the peak in terms of vocal (that 'tro' syllable stands out the most), and according to that I put the most emphasis into it. yet again, I like this idea, but if a bn tells me to change this - I'll have to xd
01:24:167 (1,2) - ctrl+g would make it more epic, and alot better to read the idea behind those is to both give the player some time to recover their aim cause they don't have to move the cursor for 1/1, and imo it's easier to read cause each jump is 1/2 and each stack is 1/1

Rest of the diffs looks okay so.
Good luck with the map!

thanks!

Zel

240 posts

Joined April 2014

Zel 2017-06-23T20:52:25+00:00

mod replies

FiddleBlue

I think the AR is a bit too high, perhaps AR 9.5 instead? no
00:10:024 (4,5) - Kinda overmapped don't you think? Why don't you make 00:09:453 (1) - into two circles instead so it'll be a four 1/2 consecutive jumps? i dont agree,
mainly because there is a larger spaced jump section afterwards, and the jumps are rather small in spacing.
00:17:453 (7) - How about ignoring this sound instead as it lacks the strong sound in which 00:16:881 (3,4,5,6) - has? i can get your logic here but I want to accurately reflect the song, and there is a sound here. Its also rather strong.
01:01:167 (3,4) - Weird flow :/ Maybe curve the slider? the flow is fine ._.
01:05:024 (4,5,6) - Perhaps make these the same spacing to emphasize 01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - more as the three circles lack the intense sound in which 01:05:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - has. 5 is a really strong note, no

lit120

00:10:024 (4,5) - what are u trying to map here? i'd suggest this instead for a better rhythm choice (and the example from how i mapped) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8293496 im mapping the guitar
00:36:952 (4,6) - looks like an overmap for me since the notes are absent, despite u're trying to hide it with a stream instead fuck ur right, fixed.
00:46:453 (3) - what a weird start to use a 1/2 slider, despite that there's a vocal starting on a white tick there. would just use 2 notes instead, but having the white tick one should be a lower spacing mapping guitar here
00:50:595 (1) - can u provide me a reason why 1/4 slider? listen to the song, i think it accurately represents it.
00:58:310 (4) - NCing this would be cool before the initial chorus downbeat there good idea
01:00:310 (1,2) - i don't totally get it why with such a low spacing distance due to its downbeat there. i'd just make (2) on 01:00:881 (1) - instead there ya know... and here's an additional placement note change if u agree with this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8294173 its a less intense part of the song
01:14:595 (1) - drum sampleset done
01:26:024 (1) - u sure it's parallel for u? just realized its slightly mishaped at the bottom xd, fixed
01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - the same as i have stated from the highest diff you dont hear notes here? are you deaf?

Sotarks

00:05:310 (3) - you skipping a kick by using 1/1 slider intentional, im mapping vocals here
00:05:953 (5) - there's no sound here deaf
00:57:024 (1) - make that tail clickable good idea
01:11:024 (1) - why using 1/4 slider here? 01:08:167 (1,2,1,2) - to be consistent with the gimmick itself and use it on the same sounding vocals
01:23:738 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - why reducing spacing here, it's literally the same peech volume because the song is "cooling down" and its chill right after.
01:24:881 (1) - remove kiai here true
01:26:024 (1) - ending of the star looks weird xd already fixed

SnowNiNo_

00:05:738 (4,5,1) - inconsistent spacing, ur using x0.7 b4 but only x1.1 here the song is pretty clearly getting more intense lol
00:07:453 (2,3) - lol why the spacing is fking small here, should be similar with 00:07:738 (3,4) - i increased spacing slightly, but the song is clearly getting built up
00:20:167 (3,4) - inconsistent spacing, tbh overlap here would be fine u rite, fix
00:56:738 (4,1) - spacing here is too similar with 1/2 gap, make the spacing bigger would give a nice separation increased spacing
01:06:310 (4) - NC for consistent correct, changed some NCs in this pattern

Keada

00:04:738 (1) - its a strong beat on a sliderend, not good. its easier in the beginning of the map for buildup
00:05:310 (3) - same in the middle of this slider. mapping vocals
00:05:953 (5) - overmapped, remove it please. can no one hear the background orrr
00:10:024 (4,5) - overmapped reduced spacing, but notes are valid. its to the guitar.
00:11:167 (3,4,5,6) - spacing issues i see no issues here
00:12:738 (6,1) - the jump between those 2 should be higher imo increased
00:15:024 (6,1) - ^ this one is fine, the pitch of the sound is lower so i feel like lower spacing represents the song well
00:16:167 (6,1) - ^ increased slightly, but ^
00:47:453 (2) - ctrl+j then ctrl+g looks much better good idea!
00:56:310 (1,2,3,4) - should all have same spacing no they should not, the intensity of the notes ion the song are all different.
01:03:310 (2,3) - the jump between this should be larger than the one between 01:03:167 (1,2) - u rite, fixed
01:14:595 (1) - missing a hitsound fixed

Thanks for the mods boys, sorry for taking so long to get to them.

Zel

240 posts

Joined April 2014

Zel 2017-06-23T20:53:17+00:00

UPDATE

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 58167
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.499998

[Metadata]
Title:Uncontrollable
TitleUnicode:Uncontrollable
Artist:Ito Kanako
ArtistUnicode:いとうかなこ
Creator:MadHypnofrog
Version:Zel's Extreme
Source:CHAOS;CHILD
Tags:asuka_- eeezzzeee zel mentai 5pb. nitroplus itou head op opening tv size
BeatmapID:1257330
BeatmapSetID:582517

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:9.1
ApproachRate:9.6
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Jabba

813 posts

Joined February 2015

Topic Starter

Jabba 2017-06-23T21:05:31+00:00

@Zel: 00:57:024 (1,2) - (1)'s tail was hitsounded and (2) had no hitsound so I fixed it lol
01:14:595 - and yes this part has drums all over lol fix pls
asuka would reply tomorrow, now let's wait for eze as he logged in a month ago zzzz

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2017-06-23T21:39:12+00:00

fix for 1/2 spam + minor aesthetic changes

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Glyphic

65 posts

Joined June 2014

Glyphic 2017-06-24T03:38:21+00:00

Light Insane

00:04:738 (1,2,3) - is there any reason that the slider ends are on the intense sounds? feels very lack luster

Asuka_-

1,459 posts

Joined February 2016

Asuka_- 2017-06-24T11:01:01+00:00

ippai

im not good at english
i use google translate

lit120 wrote:
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[asuka]
00:01:881 (2,3) - i wonder why did you set a drum sampleset here, despite that the beat isn't there for using a hitsound .-.　k
00:02:453 (4) - but the tail is required here .-. k
00:03:881 (2,3,1) - from the first and the second point k
00:12:881 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hm, are you actually going for an angle slider pattern? just copy paste one of the sliders, then adjust the angle from what you want. then copy paste again, do the same thing little changed
00:26:595 (1,2,3) - you might want to review the hitsounds again by listening at the song again k
00:32:453 (2,4) - blanket them? k
01:07:453 (5,6) - what about the blue tick? i don't think it looks suit for the use since it's an absent note. if you think that you're following for a background music that should supports enough, then it's ok i want keep it,,, sry.
01:24:881 (1) - i'd make it the middle center from 01:24:595 (1,2) - in 421|189 since it's just a weak vocal note that doesn't emphasize any beat there. should be emphasize well with a weak vocal note there instead XD little changed (spacing)
01:25:738 (4) - what about the red tick? why not just a note instead of 1/2 slider here? should be well emphasize enough rather than giving another note to hear on that red tick, since it ends on a white tick instead changed 3/4...
01:30:024 (1,2,3,4) - i have provided the mod about this just like the previous diffs keep its fine imo

-LynX- wrote:
Asuka_-'s Insane
00:08:738 (3,4,5,6) - maybe NC 3 and 5? nice
00:28:595 (4) - minor visual suggestion, perhaps use some red anchors for this slider for the distinct sound the nc part is consistent with no anchors
00:37:453 (4) - perhaps NC this, since the spacing from 2->3 and 3->4 is similar but 3->4 is 1/1 ok nice
01:12:881 (3,4,5,1) - maybe this will flow better? https://puu.sh/wiar4/48b97677d1.png flow is already fine imo

Sotarks wrote:
[Azuka's Insane]
00:10:167 (5) - wat, please make this clap clickable here.. and 1/4 is not appropriate here　nice
00:19:453 (2,1) - wat a juge spacing, consider lowering this little changed

Sidetail wrote:
[asuka]
英語のmodの中に現れる日本語...　まじ神
00:06:024 (1) - sliderになるのがいいと思います keepで
00:10:167 (5) - ここにcircleを使ってください。強いbeatがあるから。　ほーい
00:37:453 (1) - NCはどうですか。00:37:024 (2,3,1) - distanceは同じですけと、timeline-dsは違うです。　おーけい
01:26:024 (1) - ここにcircleをつかって、spinnerを01:26:095 - に始まるのがいいです。ここは前のすらいだーの速度下げてそれを強調させたいからkeepで

Yuuki Konno wrote:
Asuka_-'s Insane
Problems
00:26:595 (1) - This spacing is too large, it contradicts previously set patterns. It would follow the patterns and look better blanketing the (2) slider. ok

01:01:881 (1,2,3,4) - You have your primary "clap" beats on the end of the sliders, but there is no loud noise at this part so it simply makes the sliders a bit more

awkward for no reason. little changed

01:06:453 (2,1) - The combo makes it seem like another full beat spacing. just remove the new combo and you're golden. keep

01:20:595 (2,3,4) - Distance is too short. An easy fix would be to make the 3 where the 4 is and have the 4 between the 3 and 2. like this: its fine imo

https://gyazo.com/6d6b15c8bc54cdf3081f5333c79b658e

Opinions
Warning: These could be a bit nit picky
00:09:310 (6,1) - The spacing between 1 and 6 seems too far, I first thought it was the same spacing as between 00:08:881 (4,5) - . That's just my opinion. (This

spacing pattern is shown a few seconds later at 00:10:167 (5,1) - ) little changed

00:18:881 (1,2) - Currently this looks like this: https://gyazo.com/3d70764e2f6cf569b253ccfa8f32d888
When playing through this the flow felt better in this position: https://gyazo.com/3cc5c3f4d68a346bc7f55de97541a6d3 keep

Feb wrote:
Asuka in the main roster insane
we meet again　yey

what's up with your high AR's? 9.3 is way over the top again uhm 9.1 is like the max you should put on this. As on your other diff, no unreadable stuff nor hard
keep for now

rhythm at all.

00:19:310 (1,2,1) - this plays really wanky mainly because it's hard to identify 00:19:453 (2,1) - this as 1/4 rhythm when 00:19:310 (1,2) - this is also 1/4 but
with different spacing. little changed ()
00:10:595 (1) - this entire section plays like 3 star and 00:58:595 (1) - this plays like 5 star. Consider buffing the 3 star section a bit. it is not kiai part. so fine..??
01:07:453 (5,6,1) - the spacing kinda fits an extra, but this is abit over the top spacing little changed
01:09:453 (4) - could be emphasized more as the vocal is stronger than 3 and 1. little changed... (but i couldnt)

good luck

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[Asuka_-'s Insane]
00:18:024 - slowly decreasing the spacing would express better to the music, like Zel's Extreme i tried
00:37:167 (3,4) - spacing here is too similar with 1/2 gap, make the spacing bigger would give a nice separation nice
G

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

upd

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Jabba

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Jabba 2017-06-24T12:39:38+00:00

Glyphic wrote:
Light Insane

00:04:738 (1,2,3) - is there any reason that the slider ends are on the intense sounds? feels very lack luster

those are mapped to vocals, pretty much like the whole diff

Hectic

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Hectic 2017-06-24T21:52:02+00:00

Привет, м4м

Chaos

00:02:453 (1,2) - поровнять мб? или слайдер сделать непрямым
00:08:310 (1) - не очень нравится как этот слайдер повторяет движение предыдущих, мне кажется было бы лучше, если бы он направлялся иначе
00:10:310 (5) - мне кажется такой звук лучше показать слайдером дугой, типа этого
00:16:310 (1) - мне кажется это комбо начинается слишком далеко, может подвинуть паттерн поближе к 00:16:024 (6) - ?
00:23:167 (1) - конец слайдера на у: -1
00:28:024 (3,4) - поровнять у слайдера то, что идет до красного узла по направлению с фолоупоинтом
00:41:167 (1,2) - то же самое
01:11:024 (1,2,3,4) - этот паттерн был бы клевее имо, если сделать так, чтобы 2 и 3 огибали 1 и 4 (если не нравится, то хотя бы покрути 2 и 3 немного по часовой и отодвинь от 1 и 4, типа этого). алсо стакни 1 и 4 получше
01:20:310 (5,1,1,1) - неаккуратно

Zel's Extreme

00:05:024 (2,3) - visually too close (comparing to 00:05:310 (3,4) - for example)
00:20:738 (1,2,3) - consistent visual distance please
00:38:881 (5,1) - align?

Light Insane

00:09:453 (1) - подальше от 00:08:738 (2) -
00:56:738 (3,5) - выровнять бы
01:00:024 (2,3) - ^, и расстояние между 1-2 1-3 чтобы одинаковое визуально

Надеюсь чем-то помог, удачки

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