Suzuki_1112 wrote:

不懂ctb但是好高能的样子，我来了

SB

1. 00:13:386 - 加多一个ring如何啊 嗯，正式版这里会加进去，目前只做了Rain难度的物件追踪，后边等摸的差不多了就都弄上
2. 我建议你在转盘的位置用白色图片带过，比如这里00:15:042 (1) - 跟一下这个01:46:795 (1) - 好的，不过我得考虑一下歌词的问题，因为白了的话歌词还在上边我得想想怎么弄
3. 00:57:217 - 我觉得这bg可以淡出慢一点，之后也是 嗯，考虑BPM的话我觉得这样刚好，先keep
4. 01:28:386 - 这歌词为啥要空一拍啊，奇怪的，建议把变字先在黑幕前就出来，然后之后那几个字再出来，就像这个01:34:035 - 誰字嗯，考虑黑屏效果空了一拍，如果先出来感觉很难看而且效果不好，我试过前几个字做出来效果也不行，keep

美丽，sb反正比我做得牛逼

celerih wrote:

M4M from you queue, I liked the song and wanted to do some ctb modding, so here we go!

[ General]

1. Difficulty Spread : ok! But right now the salad is at 1.99*, which is okay, but if it goes over to 2* you'll need another difficulty. Since this limits you a lot in how you can do the salad, you should probably add a Cup difficulty so spread rankability isn't an issue I'll consider add Cup diff as 1.99 -> 3.07 -> 4.1 also make me not feel good.
2. Background Size : Due to new rules in the RC, you can use a background with a resolution of up to 1920x1200. If you want you could use a higher resolution as the current bg is just 1366x768
3. Unsnapped objects : ok!
4. Audio : ok!
5. Metadata Issues : Current metadata is incorrect check end of the mod
6. Timeline Issues : ok!
7. Combo Colors : You should probably use more than 2 different combo colours fixed
8. Unused Files / Other : For the storyboard (good job on it btw it looks very nice), the flash of white at 00:14:944 - is quite blinding, and makes it hard to see the incoming notes on a few skins. Instead you could have a fade to black and have white balls like on 00:41:632 - going up very slowly, but then have a quick fade back and have all the balls fall down on 00:16:697 - I'll consider removing the flash of white. I may not add balls going up slowly as bananas fall down while balls go up looks strange.

[ Salad]

1. 00:26:632 (2,3) - Increase spacing between the two. Right now it is pretty easy to confuse this as a normal walk fixed
2. 00:29:944 (2,3,4) - Move this section to around x=256 Right now there's a break in movement in this section that feels awkward when playing fixed, move to x 216 which seems better.
3. 00:37:736 (5,6,1) - It would be better to have the dash on 00:38:126 (6) - rather than it being on 00:38:516 (1) - yeah, cool
4. 00:46:113 (3) - Increase the spacing here. There's a break in movement when the song is still going fixed
5. 00:50:983 (1) - You should ctrl-h this and move it more to the left. That way you have a consistent pattern with 00:52:542 (1) - yeah, a dash here also fit finish here.
6. 00:57:217 (1) - A dash on this note would work very well since it's the first note for the kiai fixed
7. 01:25:269 (1) - Reduce the spacing here fixed

[ Platter]

1. 00:02:282 (3,4,5,1) - Having the rhythm like this might seem wrong but this way the slider heads are on stronger beats, and the song is better represented keep here. strong beats are at white line where I add "soft-hitclap" in my opinion. the piano at red line is only high-pitched but not downbeat. (Sorry I dont know whether I say it clearly, just like "so" is higher than "do", but actually "do" is downbeat but not "so".
2. and the same goes to here 00:05:399 (3,1,2,3) - and here 00:08:516 (3,1,2,3) - ^
3. 00:10:464 (1,2,3,1,2) - Here the constant back and forth is a bot repetitive to play, try maybe mixing up what you do here fixed
4. 00:13:386 (3) - You should have an hdash to this note fixed
5. 00:28:970 (6,1) - 1/4 hyperdashes in platters are unrankable. You could make this a dash instead fixed
6. 00:35:399 (1) - Have a dash on this note Sorry keep here. as I have use hdash at 00:35:009 (5) - . and I dont want to make it harder. and also I use hdash only follow key sound like 00:35:009, 00:38:126.
7. 00:50:009 (2,3) - This could be mapped by a reverse slider to be consistent with 00:49:425 (1) - fixed
8. 00:57:119 (5,1) - and 01:22:055 (6,1) - and 01:43:873 (8,1) - Same thing as before 1/4 hdash in platter is not rankable previous modder suggest me do this, and I also refer to wiki. I'm not sure whether rules have changed or not. I'll ask someone else who know this or ask a bn to check. I'll keep this at the moment.
9. 01:33:645 - Since you follow the piano in this section you could have a triple on 01:33:645 -

[ Metadata]

1. Artist : 雪ノ下雪乃(CV.早見沙織)& 由比ヶ浜結衣(CV.東山奈央)
2. Romanized Artist : Yukino Yukinoshita (CV.Saori Hayami) & Yui Yuigahama (CV.Nao Toyama)
3. Title : エブリデイワールド
4. Romanized Title : Everyday World
5. Sources : http://db2.nbcuni.co.jp/contents/hp0004/list.php?CNo=4&AgentProCon=25354 http://vgmdb.net/album/51394

Thank you so much for metadata check. I once tried it but I have to use this. Because it will automaticly add Catch the Beat after the title when submit the map. and if I use Yukino Yukinoshita (CV.Saori Hayami) & Yui Yuigahama as artist, the title will be too long that it will cause an error like this: https://puu.sh/uEV78/9f6651944e.png. personally I prefer using the metadata you gave me but I cannot. If its a STD mode it sure will be ok as there is no Catch the Beat after title and without word limit.
The metadata checks and overall mod took me more time than I thought, so I do not have time to check the Rain. Even then, it's too hard for me to play ;-; The map is really fun to play, and the storyboard is very nice! Good luck on ranking this!

Hareimu wrote:

here, have a star o/

Vanillas wrote:

Thank you so much for metadata check. I once tried it but I have to use this. Because it will automaticly add Catch the Beat after the title when submit the map. and if I use Yukino Yukinoshita (CV.Saori Hayami) & Yui Yuigahama as artist, the title will be too long that it will cause an error like this: https://puu.sh/uEV78/9f6651944e.png. personally I prefer using the metadata you gave me but I cannot. If its a STD mode it sure will be ok as there is no Catch the Beat after title and without word limit.

celerih wrote:

Vanillas wrote:

Thank you so much for metadata check. I once tried it but I have to use this. Because it will automaticly add Catch the Beat after the title when submit the map. and if I use Yukino Yukinoshita (CV.Saori Hayami) & Yui Yuigahama as artist, the title will be too long that it will cause an error like this: https://puu.sh/uEV78/9f6651944e.png. personally I prefer using the metadata you gave me but I cannot. If its a STD mode it sure will be ok as there is no Catch the Beat after title and without word limit.

Talked to MBomb about it and apparently in cases like this where the artist name is too long, using the singer's names and not character names is preferred, thus metadata should be

Artist : 早見沙織 & 東山奈央
Romanized Artist : Saori Hayami & Nao Toyama
Sure, I'll use singers' name as artist and add character names to tags~
As for the 1/4 HDashes in the platter, I rechecked the Ranking Criteria and it is an unrankable issue. So that might be good to fix before a BN check.

OK, I also ask someone who said it's ok to use if 1/4 Hdashed is flow. But as its a unrankable issue, I'll fix it later as it may lower to 2.9x * which influence spread. I'll recheck this diff and make it around 3.10*.
This is all I wanted to touch on. Good luck again with the set! (Take this star)

ZX123456 wrote:

啊.. 我就一直覺得你的id怎麼那麼眼熟 原來是這張https://osu.ppy.sh/s/428243的mapper

怎麼一陣子沒作圖之後回來竟然變成水果mapper了 自从打了rain难度接触了水果阻尼之后感觉开启了新世界的大门。


https://osu.ppy.sh/s/428243 這張的SB開頭，作詞/作曲那邊 BNSI打錯打成NBSI了，還有TAGS的im@s打成i@mas

雖然跟這張圖沒關係，不過剛好同作者，想起來就順便打在這好了 这个我以后挖上来会fix，谢谢w

storyboard

雖然我完全不懂這個，不過還是用我打這張圖的感覺提點建議看看好了..

00:31:892 - 這邊的sb/ring 往前推的話，那前一個sb/ring應該要在00:28:775 - ， 不過前一個卻是放在00:29:165 - ，所以我不確定你的sb/ring是要跟著whistle放的 還是兩條大白線放一次 甚至whistle跟大白線都放應該也可以，後面的幾個sb/ring也是如此
跟的是whistle. 关于这个ring我会在图完成了差不多之后重新re一下
01:46:892 - 這個sb/ring.. 感覺放在01:46:697 (1) - 而不是放在spin上會比較好 (放完之后改了Note位置忘记了改ring的位置，跑

salad

我不太會mod低星圖，所以也不知道能寫點什麼
大概就是00:47:866 - 到第一段kiai之間的跳感覺有點大 不知道新手玩家打起來會不會太難 应该还可以的间距，毕竟这个难度也算是个Normal了，（主要是因为懒没做Cup，所以直接用一个2*以下的normal了）

platter

00:36:567 (4) - 這個有點太遠了 雖然前面幾個白果跳也有點遠 不過這個幾乎都快變成紅果跳了 把這滑條往右移一點點如何 好

snow

00:27:412 (4,1) - 不是很懂這裡為什麼要放個紅果 可能是std的习惯遇到白线或者NC就想跳，按照下一条的Mod我会改掉

00:27:801 (2,3,4,5,6) - 這邊換個排列比較好 00:27:801 (2) - 的音比較大 可以考慮換成跳 00:28:386 (3,4,5,6) - 的音比較小 再慢慢把距離減少 嗯，好的

00:47:477 - sampleset換成auto試試? 跟01:18:451 - 同樣的問題 感觉目前drum的finish音和音乐契合的挺好的，（我用的默认drum音效）这里暂时就不改了

01:18:451 - 這個音感覺很突兀 換成別的音效試試看吧 其他難度也是 嗯，用绿线降低音量了，因为曲子这里的确有这个音效

01:19:425 (2) - 把這個滑條ctrl+h試試看 我覺得還不錯 嗯，的确很好

01:36:178 (1) - 把這個換成垂直的滑條 然後滑條尾巴消音 效果比較好(? 因为音乐到这里是突然停下，然后下一拍子正好一个drum音，目前这样一个单circle的停顿我觉得更契合曲子，所以先不改了

感覺還不錯 不過可能是因為以往都做std的圖 打起來還是有點轉譜的影子
的确感觉虽然4.1*然而难度比同等级的专谱简单，应该我还是没从STD思维缓过来，以后多做一些看能不能找到感觉
然後私心希望s(mile)ing挖起來繼續做 痾屎需要更多偶大圖 :p

• 00:02:282 (5,1,2) - Should start at red tick, (5) should also be a dash necessary (No H-dash).
  00:05:399 (5,1,2) - ^
  00:08:710 (5) - Strong sound not emphasize aswell
  00:17:866 (5,1) - Dashing should start at 00:18:061 -. Would delete (5) and make (4) a reverse arrow.
  00:20:983 (5,6,1) - Hyperdash should be on (5) not on (6).
  00:22:736 (6,1) - (1) was not emphasized properly. 00:22:152 (3,4,5,6) - Ctrl+h these should fix it.
  00:27:801 (2) - I want to make this look different since 00:26:048 (1,2) - and 00:27:801 (2) - have the same structure, but has different sounds. I would make the slider less harsh.

• 00:14:944 (1) - Gives no emphasis on the sound, I would put a circle there and just shorten up the spinner.
  00:27:801 (2,3) - Was not emphasized properly,
  00:33:840 (1,2,3) - This is confusing in DT mod.
  00:54:100 (1) - Would make this a H-dash necessary

-Nicotine wrote:

ill post my mod tomorrow or saturday, sorry I was busy :< that's ok. reality comes first

Mod as promised!
I'll mod Snow mod again once you've applied my mod That would be great~


[Snow White]
Plays really nice, however Strong beats were not emphasized properly. Notes like 00:19:814 (1) - emphasize the strong vocal and I would appreciate the map even more if you would emphasize other strong vocals aswell.

Here is a list:

• 00:02:282 (5,1,2) - Should start at red tick, (5) should also be a dash necessary (No H-dash).I'll change it as previous modder has pointed it out but I did not accept as some reasons. Now it seems its my fault as second person also say I should fix. I'll change the rhythm.
  00:05:399 (5,1,2) - ^ ^
  00:08:710 (5) - Strong sound not emphasize aswell make (4) horizontal to make it farther.
  00:17:866 (5,1) - Dashing should start at 00:18:061 -. Would delete (5) and make (4) a reverse arrow. fixed
  00:20:983 (5,6,1) - Hyperdash should be on (5) not on (6). fixed
  00:22:736 (6,1) - (1) was not emphasized properly. 00:22:152 (3,4,5,6) - Ctrl+h these should fix it. fixed when fixing previous mod
  00:27:801 (2) - I want to make this look different since 00:26:048 (1,2) - and 00:27:801 (2) - have the same structure, but has different sounds. I would make the slider less harsh. Fixed in another mothod. change (2) to 3 circles to follow piano goes down and also add hdash to 00:28:775 to emphasize drum.

[Platter]

• 00:14:944 (1) - Gives no emphasis on the sound, I would put a circle there and just shorten up the spinner. Fixed
  00:27:801 (2,3) - Was not emphasized properly, hdash to 00:28:775 (5) - and also Ctrl+G (2)
  00:33:840 (1,2,3) - This is confusing in DT mod. Changed (1)(2) to a circle and a reverse.
  00:54:100 (1) - Would make this a H-dash necessary sure a H-dash fits the part better but cannot get ranked according to rules: 1/3 and 1/4 hyperdashes may be used singularly (not in conjunction with other dashes or hyperdashes) if the BPM is less than 120.

• 
  00:30:334 (5) - Strong sound on the red tick.It deserves a H-dash to be honest.
  00:33:061 (3,4) - Strong sound on the red tick aswell. I would ctrl+g them first then fix the flow.
  00:36:178 (3,4) - Same reason as above
  00:39:684 (4,5) - Hyperdash should be on (4) not on (5)
  00:42:412 (4,5,6) - Slider should start on 00:42:801 (5) -. After that, a circle on 00:42:801 - should be a hyperdash to emphasize the strong sound on 00:42:996 -
  00:44:165 (6) - I think this slider should start on 00:43:970 - .
  00:46:113 (7) - Strong sound here too, I'd make this a dash necessary (No H-dash since the kawaii part is about to start)
  00:58:580 (6,1) - Slider should start on 00:58:580 - and the slider needs to be dash necessary since 00:58:580 - is a strong sound
  01:11:048 (6,1) - Same reason as above
  01:12:412 (5,1) - Throwing this one and explain how you feel about this one.
  01:17:282 (6,1) - I would apply more emphasis on (6) and reduce the ds on (1)
  01:28:386 (1,2,1,2) - Personally I don't want them to be a hyperdash because of the calm part of the music. But your choice if you want to fix it.
  01:46:697 (1) - Increase the DS here. To the point its almost a pixel jump.

1. I got a metadata check from kwan. here's the message :
   
   
   So currently your artist field is wrong(yes, it is way too long to include, read your reply to ascendance's mod. However, even tasuke's map of the same song with the same metadata works fine, so I don't see the reason why not to use the full artists' name here.), and your romanised title and source is wrong. Please fix them accordingly(and refer to the references kwan mentioned if in doubt).
2. 01:42:801 - The lyrics that appears on the screen on this tick('エブリデイワールド') feels really 'underemphasized', for it being in the pinnacle of the song. Maybe you should try to make a bolder outline instead of using a softer gradient, so that it has more impact.
3. Why are the ripple effects only used in Rain? All the difficulties are mapped to the same song so I don't get why you did this. For both platter and salad, you have notes which emphasizes the same sound as the rain - so having no similar effects for them is wrong. I would advice you to do this for all the difficulties.

1. Tbh I can't see the meaning behind the naming of this difficulty. The song has to do with love and growing out of it - the word 'snow' doesn't really capture that meaning of the song. Honestly I'm no good at thinking of better words for substitution so maybe you could ask those british or american players for help on this. Otherwise you could simply use 'rain' as your difficulty name for simplicity.
2. 00:01:892 (3,4,5,1) - Due to the AR, it is much more easier to dash through all these notes instead of dashing only at (1)(which seems like the intended movement), so I would reduce the distance between (3,4,5). In fact, you have a lot of similar movement throughout the map that also does wrong emphasis like this, such as at 00:03:256 (3,4,5) - ((3) to (4) could be just cheesed through with dash, combined with (5) its just a straight hold-dash pattern) or at 00:05:009 (3,4,5,1) - (same like these, except now (1) has even lower emphasis which isn't good - I suggest increasing distance between (5) and (1) on top of reducing distance between (3,4,5).), so please check over them. There's way too much to list so I'll leave you to fix them.
3. 00:09:879 (4,5) - The change of sound here is quite minimal that it won't be easily noticed by players - so a hyper doesn't really fit too well here. Would suggest you to remove it.
4. 00:14:944 (1,1) - Note to spinner gap is too small, it is unrankable. For rain, notes must be 1/2 beats before and after a spinner, so please fix this.
5. 00:20:204 (2) - The momentum from the previous hyper will induce a dash here - which doesn't seem intended seeing that 00:17:087 (2) - this isn't one. Would try to reduce the distance here, so that the dash isn't there.
6. 00:27:412 (4) - This distance is quite ambiguous because most of the other notes which wasn't having any significant sound like this one were all walking distances, but this having a higher on might induce an unwanted dash, or a close catch on the platter, or just a miss. Would reduce the distance to minimalize those possibilities.
7. 00:41:243 (5,6) - Would be better if you reduced the distance between these 2 notes as the instruments are building down - making them hold a dash(or catch everything by the edge) would not correctly reflect on this.
8. 00:53:710 (4,5,1) - Hyper should be between (5) and (1) not (4) and (5) as (1) is where the cymbals land on and the part transition happens, which is significantly more prominent than (5). Plus, the ripple effect at the bottom of the screen is at the same place as (1), not (5), so having no hyper there might feel awkward for players with storyboard on.
9. 00:54:100 (1,2) - Unrankable hyper as the previous hyper was of a different snap. In fact, this is a build-up section of the song, so you shouldn't be having a hyper here in the first place, as here's only the beginning of the build-up. You should be remove the hyper and perhaps make a walking distance(but it should be smaller then the distances used at 00:54:879 (3,4,5,6) - to clearly show the build-up).
10. 00:57:606 (2) - This is one out of the two upbeat snare dashes in the whole kiai; for consistency I would like to see the dash removed. The other one is 01:05:399 (2) - .
11. 01:11:632 (2) - I was fine with the vertical sliders except this; the previous vertical slider didn't induce any movement at all, so having another vertical slider would create an unfun double-standstill movement(at least that's what I think). Others which were similar to this at least had a dash between those notes to at least induce some movement during the play of second slider, so I suggest you to make this more horizontal.
12. 01:29:944 (2) - Would have liked it better if you used a dash instead of hyper, as the whole section is really calm - even though the piano is loud, the overall mood of the section doesn't really support the piano sounds to be all hypers. Since the pitch here is lower than 01:31:503 (1) - , I would make this a dash instead of hyper.
13. 01:33:645 (2,3,4) - And this could be better if this was on the other side of the screen; the pitch of the piano is really high here, so just a standstill doesn't really emphasize that well.
14. 01:37:736 (1) - You can definitely add a hyper here for the part transition and many strong instruments.
15. Otherwise though, nice difficulty.

1. 00:04:814 (2) - This slider breaks the flow because of the vertical shape at the beginning of the slider, which makes the player stand still for awhile then start moving again; this can feel really awkward. You can rotate this 180 degrees and place it at the same place which would feel much better; it will look like this.
2. 00:06:762 (4) - There's definitely a piano sound here so just a standstill doesn't add too much to the emphasis, and it just really feel weird because you didn't do this for any other piano sounds. I suggest you to space this and 00:06:567 (3) - this note out more.
3. 00:13:386 (4,1) - 00:14:944 (1,1) - Like rain, note to spinner gap's too small to be rankable. The gap should be at least 1/2 in platter as well, so fix accordingly.
4. 00:18:256 (1) - Tbh a more straight slider would work better here as the little vertical shape of the slider in the beginning makes me stop everytime after the dash, which doesn't feel too good.
5. 00:24:490 (1) - The dashing distance of this note makes the player catch the fruit on the edge of the platter most of the time, which could be quite intimidating, considering only easier dashes appeared in salad(the lowest difficulty), so close-to-edge-dash distance like this one could be intimidating. Would suggest you to lower down the distance. Same could be said for 00:21:373 (1) - .
6. 00:36:567 (4) - Very close to being a hyper makes this an edge dash, which is not allowed in platter. Reduce the distance.
7. 00:40:464 (2,3,4,5) - Hyper into anti-flow is unrankable in platters. Besides, the distance of (3,4,5) was already high enough so it needs a fix regardless. Fix the issue, and make sure the distances between (3,4,5) are lower so that players don't need to hold dash through those notes as well.
8. 00:47:282 (5) - You could emphasize the snare more by adding a dash here.
9. 00:48:256 (2,3) - 00:48:840 (4,5) - 00:49:425 (1,2) - 00:50:009 (2,3) - Would like to see these 4 hypers become dashes instead - 6 hypers in a row is definitely too much for platter players to play with. It is not written in the RC, but even the rain RC states that no more than 4 consecutive hypers should be used, so definitely platter should use lesser amount than that.
10. 00:52:152 (4,1) - It's a little bit before the kiai so the strong hyper is justified, but since players are only introduced to hyper only on this difficulty, far hypers like this can be quite disorienting in their movement afterwards. And due to the fact that this is wayyyy above the trigger distance(2.2x more than trigger), which makes this unrankable. You should reduce it. Other strong hypers also exist during the kiai : 00:55:269 (4,1) - , 00:58:386 (4,1) - (not unrankable but very close, still highly recommended to reduce), 00:59:944 (4,1) - (like the previous one), 01:06:178 (4,1) - , 01:07:736 (4,1) - (unrankable due to anti-flow, more of them below), 01:11:048 (4,1) - , 01:24:879 (4,1) - , 01:35:788 (4,1) - , 01:38:905 (4,1) - (another very close one being unrankable) and 01:42:022 (4,1) - should all be reduced in hyper distance.
11. 00:55:269 (4,1) - Another anti-flow hyper which is unrankable. You can make (1) a curve upwards instead.
12. 01:06:178 (4,1) - More anti-flow hypers which are unrankable again. Same goes for 01:07:736 (4,1) - , 01:08:126 (1,2) - 01:12:412 (4,1) - , 01:20:204 (4,1) - , 01:24:879 (4,1) - , 01:26:243 (3,4) - , 01:35:788 (4,1) - and 01:45:529 (1,2) - . Most of them can be fixed by making them vertical curves.
13. 01:14:360 (1) - Why no hyper here when you did it at 01:01:892 (1) - ? Add one for consistency.
14. 01:22:152 (1,2) - Quite a far distance so players might make a dash towards (2), which can wrongly emphasize (2) being very weak in reality. Reduce the distance.
15. 01:26:243 (3) - The repeat is missing the snare hitsound, you should add it in.
16. 01:35:788 (4,1) - Hyper here isn't really justified because (1) isn't a strong note by it's own - the strong instruments only land on 01:36:567 - , so making a 1/1 slider at (1) doesn't make sense rhythmically either. Would separate (1) into two 1/2 sliders and make a hyper at the second one instead, to properly emphasize on the strong beat.
17. 01:39:879 (2,3) - Another close to being a dash distance, it's not really justified due to 01:38:321 (2,3) - and 01:41:438 (2,3) - not being dashes, and even then it is quite a weak beat to have a dash on. I would suggest you to remove it.
18. 01:46:697 (3) - This note has strong beats unlike 01:45:139 (3) - , so I suggest you to make another hyper here to emphasize on that.

Ranking Criteria in Rain-specific wrote:

hyperdashes of different beat snap (1/2, 1/4, etc.) must not be used between consecutive objects.