Remus wrote:

Hello. There were some exams, so sorry for that late.

[Inner Oni]

1. Map is so repetetive, so i think i'll not mention every similar thing more than twice, because it will be like mod of "^" (in case i find them, of course ).
2. 01:37:482 (3,4) - similar sounds, i see no reason for kat at 3. Change it to don. Also, i recommend you to even delete last one, 4, because of 01:37:146 - 01:37:823 - . sounds good, changed.
3. 01:47:625 (51,52) - you can also emphasize drum's sound ending by putting here kats. hmm, sounds better than using dons after all, changed.
4. 01:50:267 (67,68,69) - if you tried to emphasize vocal here, so better to 01:50:352 (68,69) - swap them. I know, that you try to map 01:50:437 (69) - those sounds like don, but here is no problem to switch it to don. swapping it would make it sound weird imo, unchanged.
5. 02:00:494 (143) - kat here will suit better and make this part a little various. Also, you did that pattern lately at 02:03:051 (162,163,164,165) - this moment. if you look closely, I used the same pattern on both kiais after the triplet / 5-plet part (D k ddd ddk), also I mapped 02:03:051 (162,163,164,165) - the same way as 01:52:142 (80,81,82,83) - for a consistent pattern, and on the second kiai I used a k kkd pattern instead of k kdd to make it different from the first kiai, but still consistent. Because of that, I'll leave it unchanged.
6. 02:01:176 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155) - the same stream as ago, but you did here 02:01:517 (153) - kat here and idk why. that one actually was for the sake of variety, however I think it sounds better if I change it to kkddddk for consistency.
7. 02:03:903 (169) - the same suggestion, as i said above. wrong timestamp maybe? I used ddkkddk on 01:52:994 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - this one, using ddkdddk for this one makes it sound similar while being slightly different.
8. 02:11:403 (234) - if you decided to fix that moments, so here is another one. same as above.
9. 02:14:471 (257,258,259) - oh i forgot to say somethinh about rhytm here- 02:14:642 (259) - is note, which better to tap, than to stream ( i mean 02:14:471 (257,258,259) - d.k will be better for rhytm, than ddk, because you emphasize kat by spacing) I think this is okay, since I use this kind of pattern quite often throughout the map, plus the kiai is overall more intense than the rest of the song.
10. 02:15:323 (264) - don to emphasize the beginning of next stream (which starts with kat). changing this to kdd sounds off to me, but I changed this one to ddk for consistency and because it sounds better.
11. 02:20:948 (308) - don suits more. you're right, changed.
12. 02:37:312 (406,407,408,409,410,411,412) - bad rhytmic here, try to change this pattern changed it to ddkkkdk.
13. 02:41:744 (439,440) - oh, here you did d.k, as i suggested some moments ago. You know, your map has good stabilty, but moments like this are a bit weird, because player get used to play similar sounds as similar patterns (in most cases). I get your point, but there is a reason why I won't change it. I decided to map the kiai parts overall a bit more intense, which is why I use ddk on these parts instead of d k. On the 'less intense' parts of the song, the patterns follow a specific structure, repeatedly changing between (k ddd ddk) and (k ddd d k). With the finisher at 02:43:619 (455) - , a new part is introduced which utilizes (k ddd ddk) as a consistent pattern.
14. 02:53:335 (525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536) - bad rhytmics again. In this moment i can't what are you emphasizing here. I wanted to make this one different from 01:04:244 (224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235) - , using a different pattern which plays just as fine. For consistency reasons, I changed the dkk triplet to ddk, but I'll leave the ddkdkkddk stream as it is for now (may change it in the future though).
15. 03:26:573 (3,4) - as i said before, or fix to dd, or delete 4 and make 3 don. yep.
16. 03:48:733 (92) - why kat? the pitch is slightly higher than before, a kat would complement this.
17. 04:09:358 (176) - i usually do kat in that moments, so maybe you'll like this idea too. And even maybe make 04:09:358 (176,177,178) - them kkk. nice idea, changed!
18. 04:12:085 (193,194,195,196,197,198,199) - if you hear stream in this moment - you have low sound oor smth else. Delete them and listen with 25-50%. I hear stream starts 04:12:767 (200) - here, but not at 04:12:085 (193) - this moment. yes, but the second kiai is meant to follow a similar structure as the first one. Changing it would break it up and also ruin the overall consistency of the map.
19. 04:22:994 (285,286,287,288,289,290,291) - well, i'll not repeat them, but i hope you'll understand what i mean.^
20. 04:25:806 (306,307,308) - strange emphasizing, but ok. well, changed this one slightly
21. 04:34:585 (374,375,376,377) - also want to point, that here i hear 5-note stream. For example, delete 04:35:011 - and put 1 note at 04:34:840 - . Plus, by this you emphasize 04:35:096 - loud sound by spacing. nice find, changed and applied the same thing to the first kiai.
22. 04:42:767 (435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443) - i think, you can do better this part. whoops, changed!
23. 04:54:869 - so here starts new musical part and you get some really cool sounds to emphasize, but you continue to map similar. Think about reampping in more various style. 05:02:198 (557,558,559,560) - good example, but use more density.
24. 05:05:778 (582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589) - in that density this looks more better, than 04:54:869 (502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519) - , but you lose 05:05:608 - sounds here. didn't think about it earlier, changed that part a little.

Well, in conclusion i want to say, that map is really cool and fun Thanks!
I suggest some things and hope that some will help you.
Good luck on your way!

Thank you for the mod!

TLDR; made some map concepts clearer and fixed some details

Hello, mod from my queue
[General]

1. Try HP6, HP5 feels a little low
   
   
2. Open your .osu file, search "background.jpg", and do the thing below here to show the two girls
   (There only can add one number. Choose a number between 80~100 to get the best effect
   

   0,0,"background.jpg",0,80~100

3. Title : (Change the weird space between "録" and "～")
   

   東方風神録　～ Mountain of Faith. (Bad)
   東方風神録 〜 Mountain of Faith. (Nice)

[Inner Oni]
*Let Kiai Time Volume improve to 90% or 100%? Because it's Kiai, need to highhhhhhhhhh*

00:21:801 - Remove this green line, and make the first red line sound volume cut down to 60%?

00:21:801 - 00:26:914 - All don or All kat - Reason see below

00:27:255 - 00:32:369 - All kat or All don - It's very clear that these two parts have different sound pitches. Very suggest you use different color to distinguish them

01:24:358 (334,335) - Ctrl+G to follow voice pitch, you also use dkkd at 03:13:108

01:26:403 (343) - Remove this to highlight that you're following voice

01:26:573 (343,344,345,346) - d k k d or k d k d? - First k-d (d-k) because the pitch of voice (I can't distinguish which higher, so you choose it please =w=). Second k-d because the sound effect

01:29:812 - Add a kat (or don) because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

01:29:983 - Add Spinner [01:29:983 - 01:31:687]

01:35:267 - Add a don because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

01:35:437 - Add a Spinner [01:35:437 - 01:36:289]

01:36:460 (1,2) - k k because they sound same, and they higher than (3)

02:31:772 (363,365) - Remove because no drum sound

02:48:306 (486) - d because it's easily to hit :3. Another reason is the high pitch electronic organ appears at (487), not (486), I don't think you need to highlight (486)

02:53:931 (529,530) - Ctrl+G becomes k-d. Because drum shows at (530), so use don to follow it. (529) sounds like (528), so use kat like it

03:03:903 (582) - k to follow voice

03:15:494 (644) - Remove it to highlight that you're following voice

03:15:664 (644,645,646,647) - d k k d or k d k d - Reason same as 01:26:573

03:18:903 (1) - Add a kat (or don) because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

03:19:073 - Add a Spinner [03:19:073 - 03:20:778]

03:21:119 (1,2) - Their pitches sound like d-k

03:24:358 (1) - Add a don because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

03:24:528 - Add Spinner [03:24:528 - 03:25:380]

03:25:551 (1,2) - k k because they sound same, and they higher than (3)

03:36:801 - Try to make the others part become same as here, I think here is the best :3 (d d k d K k D or d d k d K d K) [00:42:255 - 01:47:710 - 04:09:528]

03:38:164 (60) - K? Just suggest :3

04:53:590 (489,491) - Remove because no drum sound

04:57:767 (522,523,524,525,526,527) - kkd kdk - Just my thought that I think do this can highlight the high sound effects better

04:59:215 (532) - Strongly suggest you remove this because it not belongs to the ddkdkdk, they're separated

05:00:835 (544,547) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch

05:02:198 (554,555,556,557) - d k d k? They sound like that

05:03:647 (563,564) - Ctrl+G to follow electronic organ [Listen carefully, like 05:02:710 and 05:03:221 and 05:03:733]

05:10:125 (606) - Remove it, reason same as 04:59:215

05:11:744 (618,621) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch

05:36:801 (734) - kat here makes me feel good DX

05:38:164 (741) - D? Because it sounds lower than before

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Sorry for late, maybe the mod isn't good :3
Anyway, GL with Rank!

Thank you!

Mod by M4M or whatever (wieso schreib ich überhaupt englisch)

wenn ich keinen großartigen grund angebe wieso ich sachen change geh davon aus dass ich finde dass es sich besser anhört, varietät oder so, denk dir was aus

[Inner Oni]

1. 1. 00:38:164 (41) - to 00:40:722 (56) - hier würde mir persönlich etwas mehr varietät gefallen; nach den ersten K d K d K d K d kannst du ja bspw. mit K k K d K k K d weitermachen damits nicht so lame bleibt (wäre auch meine beste option hier, auch wenn sich die stelle durchgängig komplett gleich anhört)
2. 2. 00:48:221 (110) - könnte man zu nem d machen
3. 3. 00:48:903 (116,117) - ctrl+G - ich vermute dass du zum großteil zum beat mappst, aber der pitch in der synth verändert sich hier nach oben weswegen ich das bevorzugen würde
4. 4. 00:54:358 (154) - d, ich finde die k nicht passend genug
5. 5. 00:59:812 (194,195) - siehe 3.
6. 6. 01:01:346 (204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213) - die selbe struktur nehmen wie bei 00:55:892 (164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173) - also 01:02:113 (211) - nach 01:02:284 - verschieben (hast du 00:44:983 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - und 00:50:437 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133) - nicht anders gemacht)
7. 7. 01:21:630 (321) - oder 01:21:715 (322) - d, unterscheidet sich dann wenigstens etwas vom vorherigen triplet (und ist weniger lame)
8. 8. 01:22:994 (328,329) - 01:24:358 (334,335) - ctrl+G, würde daraufhin auch 01:25:721 (340) - zu nem d changen ums variabler zu machen (und wegen dem sound)
9. 9. 01:26:573 (343,344) - ctrl+G - viel viel besser, vom sound und des spielens her intuitiver
10. 10. 01:29:812 (2) - vllt d wegen dem voicepitch der runter geht (hast du hier 01:35:096 (1,2) - ja auch gemacht)
11. 11. 01:43:619 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - siehe 1.
12. 12. 01:50:011 (65) - remove, mehrere triplets hintereinander sind hier nicht so cool finde ich
13. 13. 01:52:738 (85) - siehe 12.
14. 14. 01:55:210 (103,104) - 01:56:233 (111,112) - vllt ctrl+G? bin mir nicht sicher, hast die pattern nachher schon benutzt und ich bin ja selber ein fan von varietät rip
15. 15. 02:00:920 (148) - siehe 12.
16. 16. 02:03:647 (168) - siehe 12.
17. 17. 02:10:721 (232,233) - ctrl+G, mehr enthusiasmus auf dem finisher
18. 18. 02:16:176 (273,274) - siehe 3.
19. 19. 02:30:153 (352,355,359,362) - k für varietät
20. 20. 02:32:710 (374) - finisher, dafür 02:32:625 (373) - removen
21. 21. 02:34:329 (385,391) - einen von beiden removen, zu viele triplets meiner meinung nach
22. 22. 02:39:784 (425,431) - siehe 21.
23. 23. 02:48:647 (492) - d wegen flow und sound
24. 24. 03:03:562 (580,581,582,583,584,585,586) - das pattern finde ich persönlich besser als in 01:14:471 (279,280,281,282,283,284,285) - entscheide dich hier für eins und nimm das dann in beiden fällen
25. 25. 03:10:721 (622,623) - siehe 7.
26. 26. 03:12:085 (629,630,635,636,641,644,645) - siehe 8. und 9.
27. 27. 03:18:903 (2) - siehe 10.
28. 28. 03:32:710 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - siehe 1.
29. 29. 03:38:164 (57) - würde hier einen finisher adden; vorzugsweise sogar eher D als K wegen dem eher ruhigen part
30. 30. 03:38:676 (58,59,60,61,62,63) - hier ist nicht viel anders als in 03:41:403 (68,69,70,71,72,73) - also entscheide dich für eins von beiden (vorzugsweise das zweite pattern)
31. 31. 03:54:528 (108) - to 03:59:642 (125) - der part gefällt mir nicht ganz. struktur ist klar, aber patterns sind eher random in der zweiten hälfte - vielleicht 03:56:573 (114) - k für den flow und weil 03:59:301 (123,124,125) - auch kdk besitzt; dazu 03:57:767 (118,122) - gleichfarbig machen, entweder du gehst wie bei 03:57:767 (118) - nach voice oder bei 03:58:789 (122) - nach vorheriger pattern
32. 32. 04:05:438 (142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - siehe 1.
33. 33. 04:11:829 (187,207) - siehe 12.
34. 34. 04:18:903 (246) - d weil du in der ersten kiai an der stelle 01:57:085 (119) - ebenfalls ein d hast
35. 35. 04:21:630 (272) - d wegen 01:59:812 (141) - ist hier ebenfalls ein d
36. 36. 04:22:738 (279,299) - siehe 12.
37. 37. 04:32:539 (356,357) - siehe 17.
38. 38. 04:41:062 - hier entweder eine note adden wie bei 02:19:244 (295) - oder diese weglassen
39. 39. 04:40:721 (417) - und 02:18:903 (293) - identisch machen
40. 40. 04:51:971 (475,478,482) - siehe 19.
41. 41. 04:54:443 (496,497) - siehe 20.
42. 42. 05:03:647 (560) - hier würde ich eher d hinpacken, hast sonst drei mal die selbe pattern hintereinander (triplet)
43. 43. 05:04:244 (564,565,566) - könnte man auch variieren wenn du möchtest, hast du im späteren verlauf ja auch gemacht (05:12:426 (620,621,622) - )
44. 44. 05:32:710 (699,700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714) - siehe 1.
45. 45. 05:36:375 (726) - die stört mich irgendwie, das pattern mit der betonung passt nicht wirklich zum song wenn die note k ist. ein vorschlag von mir wäre 05:36:119 (723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731) - zu kkddkkkdk zu ändern, aber kannst stattdessen auch was anderes nehmen solange die betonung anders ist als vorher
46. 46. 05:38:164 (738) - D wegen 01:49:073 (59) - und 04:10:892 (181) - sind beides ebenfalls Ds

ich hoffe mein (erster) mod ist nicht zu drastisch für dich, hab jetzt eher darauf geachtet struktur und flow möglichst schick zu halten (und die vorherigen mods gekonnt ignoriert). liegt im endeffekt an dir was du änderst und was nicht

die meisten deiner punkte waren für mich verständlich, auch wenn ich vieles denied habe. entweder gingen sie gegen das, was ich emphasized habe (vocal) oder besonders die punkte, die sich wiederholt haben, hätten die struktur so umgewälzt, dass sie nicht mehr meinem mapping style entsprechen. versuch in zukunft beim modden darauf zu achten, was der mapper womit emphasized hat und ob es consistent ist oder nicht (muss ich selbst noch lernen). bei einem song der relativ repetitive ist bringt es nichts, großartig viel variation einzubringen (außer es ist ne collab), weswegen die meisten angenommenen punkte für die consistency waren. trotzdem danke für den mod! (gott bin ich mies was wortwahl angeht)

updated and added some tags~

hi, m4m from #modreqs ( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉツ



[ Inner Oni ]

00:21:801 (1) ~ 00:32:369 (24) - There is only k. how about 6d 6k 6d 6k?
00:38:164 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - Um, this isn't great idea... think that you play this with DT. i think just kdkd is better.
00:42:937 (77) - k. no big sound, and KdK is hard to hit than kdK.
00:56:829 (172) - delete?
01:21:119 (317,318,319) - ddd or ddk. In next kkd after this, melody is going up.
01:27:426 (1) , 01:29:983 (1) , 01:32:880 (1) , 01:35:437 (1) - so many spinner. exspecially, i think 01:35:437 (1) this spinner doesn't need.
01:43:619 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - same part 00:38:164
01:48:392 (56) - same part 00:42:937
02:05:437 (181) ~ 02:10:551 (231) - this is my suggestion.
1) not 5 5 5 5, 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3
2) 02:08:165 (207) ~ 02:10:551 (231) - reverse 02:05:437 (181) ~ 02:07:823 (205)
03:12:596 (629,630) - ctrl g? to extraordinary
03:16:517 (1) , 03:19:074 (1) , 03:21:971 (1) , 03:24:528 (1) - same part 01:27:426
03:32:710 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - same part 00:38:164
04:05:438 (142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - ^
04:10:210 (178) - same part 00:42:937
04:19:073 (247) ~ 04:21:460 (271) - same part 02:05:437
04:42:767 (432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440) - maybe have greater pattern like d d k k d d k d k(or d cause of next K) than kdkd.
04:43:619 (441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452,453,454,455,456) - i think this part is little diffrent with another same part. this part is climax so it looks great that add some notes like note that follow melody.
05:26:574 (680) -delete?
05:32:710 (700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715) - same part 00:38:164


Song is nice and map too!
really fun to mod xD
Good luck~

updated and did something about the audio at the beginning~

We talked about it earlier and i really like the song, so have fun with this mod.
Keep in mind that its only the things I would change, you should check all i said for yourself first. I hope there are some things that help you.


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I hope this mod was helpful in any way.
Good luck with your Map.

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Estaryo wrote:

We talked about it earlier and i really like the song, so have fun with this mod.
Keep in mind that its only the things I would change, you should check all i said for yourself first. I hope there are some things that help you.

General

1. AiMod – hmmm the background, i'll look later if i can do something with the picture.
2. Timing – Seems Fine
3. Song Setup – Considering the Starrating and Speed of the Map i would prefer OD 5 but 6 is still ok. I'll stick with OD 6
4. Difficulty's – Seems Fine

Halozy - Paranoid Lost (Inner Oni)

Inner Oni

Mod

1. 00:42:596 (75,76) – Delete – I don't know but i would delete both of these notes, why? Cause the Background is taking a short break and this section is mapped depending on the background – R (03:36:971) Yeah, this is mapped to the drumset at this point which takes a break at mentioned point, but the piano is getting so strong on these that it is worth mapping them too, imo. As for 03:37:141 (51,52) -, there are even vocals which I could've mapped (still following the piano), so I'll leave it unchanged.
   
2. 01:06:801 (242,256,298,313) – Change to 1/4 later – i know why you put notes on that, but in this case i would change the patternlength to go more with the vocals, since the section in total depends more on them, than on the background. – R(02:55:892) Expain this to me on Discord later, don't really understand what you're pointing out right now.
   
3. 02:07:568 (202,230) – Delete – Looking at your KIAI the first thing i recognized was: 5x5 Patternlength. Let's go in detail. The song/the vocal is playing ABABC. You were mapping it like this, considering C is having the double amount of vocals you could change that pattern to create a little difference. – R(04:18:392) I'll think about it.
   
4. 03:48:392 (87,88) – Strg + G – The note placed on 88 is the same as 81,82. the section is following even if you didn't intend to, the following: Vocal ending on I = Kat else Don. The Mentioned Position is the only one where it's not like that (A=Kat) so if you want to use a kat i would prefer using it at the U-Vocal since it's the only one there and wasn't used before. Nope, 81,82 have the same pitch while the pitch on 88 is noticeably higher than on 87, which is why I put a kat on this.
   
5. 04:59:386 (531) – Switch to 04:59:897 and change the Pattern in total. – since you are focusing on that new backgroundpart in this section it would fit perfectly if you start this pattern 1/2 later. Pattern should be something like DDKKDDK/KKDDKKD/DKDKDKD. Keeping the 1,3,5,7 Notes all the same or changing them each time. – R(05:10:295) nice one, changed!

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Good luck with your Map.

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Thank you for the mod!

Heyho!

Source: Shouldn't this be 東方Project instead of the full name? I've seen both ways during last week getting ranked, I think you should clarify this before.

[Inner Oni]

00:42:767 (76) - This should be a k to match the ascending piano.
00:42:426 (74,75,76) - As an alternative you could delete these to give the upcoming finishers much more emphasis.
This also applies to: 01:47:880 (53,54,55) - 03:36:971 (50,51,52,56) - 04:09:698 (175,176,177) - 05:36:971 (732,733,734) -

01:21:119 (316,317,318) - This starts on a white tick while the triplets before always start on a red tick (01:16:858 (292,293,294) - 01:18:221 (300,301,302) - 01:19:585 (307,308,309) - ). If that's not intended you could do something like this here:
This way you also match 01:23:164 (328,329,330) - which echoes this part and therefore should be the same pattern.
01:24:017 (331,332,333,334) - To distinguish that part from the echo before you could put a d k k d pattern here
This also applies to: 03:09:869 (614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622) - and 03:13:108 (631,632,633,634) -

03:38:164 (57) - D instead for the lower pitch than the crashes before
04:58:108 (522,523,524,525) - This could be a kkddk
05:36:289 (725) - Add k, the kddkddk rhythm doesn't really fit here imo
05:38:164 (738) - D for the lower pitch than the crashes before

Okay that's it. Good map and good luck with it!

hello, not for a deep modding here but still.

1. 00:32:710 (25) - it's kinda strange having the same density note for the new measure. Also music there changes a lot, new instrumentals are instroduced, in that case Don fits much better. Also, you may want to reconsider the whole pattern if you change 00:32:710 - to D.
2. 00:35:437 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - can't really get the point of this pattern tbh. if would be logical if you had the same pattern with Dons but there... idk, doesn't really fit the structure itself.
   NOTE: 01:40:892 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - the same and others.
3. 00:42:937 (77,78,79) - as there's such clap at 00:42:937 - it would be pretty logical to indicate this unlike 00:42:596 (75,76) - .
   NOTE: 01:48:392 (56,57,58) - etc.
4. 03:16:346 (646,1) - unsure about this one, isn't that better to start spinner from here 03:16:346 - as vocals are prominent.
   01:27:255 (346,1) - the same. 01:29:812 (2,1) - and 03:18:903 (2,1) - . 03:21:801 (3,1) - etc.
5. 04:58:619 - skipping the new measure first beat isn't a good idea, tbh.

nothing extraordinary, neat
gl

Wasn't really expecting this, but thank you for trying!

Hi~ M4M. '-'

d = don
D = big don
k = kat
K = big kat


Other things are good for me.
I think this is Nice map already.
I hope this ranked soon. GL~! :3

Thank you for modding!

Hi! mod request from my queue t/579972 . Remember they're just suggestions so feel free to deny . Sorry for taking this long ;;

[Inner Oni]
About the bg, I agree with some of comments above, the taiko bar overlap so much the bg, you can move it by using
Or simply finding another one, it's kinda nice for me already so i suggest that one first ;;

01:49:073 - why no preview timing point here? i think that blue tick -> white isn't neccesary xD

1. 00:23:846 (5) - imo a kat here sounds great and makes it fun
2. 01:15:153 (282) - i feel like you here are following some of the vocal, so i feel this note unnecesary even it's a section change (try this)
3. 01:16:176 (287,288,289,290) - isn't this 1/6 pattern unnecesary? at least i don't even feel a fast sound, i get your idea of making something dynamic so...
4. if you're making an spinner because that long vocal, then delete 01:27:255 (346) - and move spinner here
5. 01:29:812 (2) - ^
6. 01:32:710 (3) - ^
7. 01:35:267 (2) - ^
8. 02:06:289 (190) - 02:07:312 (200) - i think if you make them kat they're more playable and fun, just a suggest
9. 02:13:789 (253) - try deleting this :p
10. 03:05:267 (587,588,589,590) - same comment of the other 1/6
11. 03:16:346 - same comments of spinners... you can use sliders if you want to keep the sound since almost everyplayers finishes spins before than the normal length
12. 04:16:687 (225,235) - same as above
13. 04:53:505 - maybe do a ddddkkkkddkkd to make it different than the first one

what a fun map, it was hard for me to looking if there's any mistake, i hope it's helpful for you and star for you ~ goodluck!

xfraczynho wrote:

Hi! mod request from my queue t/579972 . Remember they're just suggestions so feel free to deny . Sorry for taking this long ;;

[Inner Oni]
About the bg, I agree with some of comments above, the taiko bar overlap so much the bg, you can move it by using huh I already moved it by 125, should be fine

Code

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"hw.png",0,(use some number around 120, try them)
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

Or simply finding another one, it's kinda nice for me already so i suggest that one first ;;

01:49:073 - why no preview timing point here? i think that blue tick -> white isn't neccesary xD doesn't really make a difference yeah but preview sounds better like this imo

1. 00:23:846 (5) - imo a kat here sounds great and makes it fun doesn't really make sense to me cause the pitch isn't really changing
2. 01:15:153 (282) - i feel like you here are following some of the vocal, so i feel this note unnecesary even it's a section change (try this) okay, applied this to the second part as well
3. 01:16:176 (287,288,289,290) - isn't this 1/6 pattern unnecesary? at least i don't even feel a fast sound, i get your idea of making something dynamic so... this is actually 1/8, using 1/6 here cause 1/8 are stupid on taiko
4. if you're making an spinner because that long vocal, then delete 01:27:255 (346) - and move spinner here
5. 01:29:812 (2) - ^
6. 01:32:710 (3) - ^
7. 01:35:267 (2) - ^ I should definitely ask some people about this, though I don't really want to change it
8. 02:06:289 (190) - 02:07:312 (200) - i think if you make them kat they're more playable and fun, just a suggest doesn't fit the repeating lyrics too well, besides all 3-plets / 5-plets during this secion end on don
9. 02:13:789 (253) - try deleting this :p structure is similar to the part after the kiai since it sounds similar (every 2nd patterns has a note on mentioned tick)
10. 03:05:267 (587,588,589,590) - same comment of the other 1/6 same thing
11. 03:16:346 - same comments of spinners... you can use sliders if you want to keep the sound since almost everyplayers finishes spins before than the normal length
12. 04:16:687 (225,235) - same as above same
13. 04:53:505 - maybe do a ddddkkkkddkkd to make it different than the first one nah

what a fun map, it was hard for me to looking if there's any mistake, i hope it's helpful for you and star for you ~ goodluck!

Thank you for the mod and star!

[General]

- Was hitting early during a testplay, checked offset and changed to -20 (note that this offset was used for this mod).
- Also note that, by definition, tags should be keywords, not whole sentences.


[Inner Oni]

1*) 01:24:354 (332) - d; in accordance to 01:12:592 (270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281)

2*) 01:36:456 (1,2) - I feel like I should let you know there were hardly two notes audible listening to the music while playing with hitsounds set to 50% volume. It only made sense when I listened to the song in the editor. Despite that, I still want to suggest making 01:36:456 (1) a d because it's not the same sound as 01:35:092 (1,2)

03:13:445 (632) - see 1*)

03:25:547 (1) - see 2*)

3*) 03:37:648 (54) - Feels empty without a D here when a chorus or whatever is being introduced next.

03:55:035 (109) - You've mapped the voice here as a d on 03:45:149 (80) and 03:46:854 (84) . Consider changing this note to a d as well.

03:57:763 (118) - If you have decided to apply the above suggestion, consider changing this note to a k as it's not the same voice as above. Otherwise leave this as is.

04:10:376 (179) - If you added a D to 3*), please do so here as well to create a nice closure to the end of this part of the song.

04:42:081 (427) - k for voice here as well? Just like at 04:40:547 (416,417)

4* 05:00:319 (538,539,540,541,542,543,544,545,546,547,548,549,550,551) - Pattern suggestion because it feels nicer to play alongside those... sounds that are going on in the music (you have layered them as kdkdkdk right before this spot):


05:11:229 (612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624) - Same deal as in 4*; if you happened to apply that suggestion, then might as well change 05:11:399 (613,614,615,616,617,618) to kdk dkd and leave the rest as is for variety.

05:37:648 (737) - Same as 3*), but should leave this as is, because you have the D at 05:38:160 (739) already.




That's all I could come up with, there's not much else to say without completely disrupting the pattern flow you have going on throughout the song, which feels satisfying enough to play.

I don't like modding repetitive songs, but I hope at least one suggestion is useful. Otherwise yey kds gachiBALD

yey mod gachiBALD

Hi!
Really sorry for the delay
M4M from your request~
That's all. Maybe you deny various points because your style don't goes with me . Anyways overall is fine, nice map!
Good luck~

gaston_2199 wrote:

Hi!
Really sorry for the delay
M4M from your request~

[ Inner Oni]

1. This is a sugestion only, it's fine but you can better this: Change the BG resolution to 1366x768 or 1900x1080 for a best quality in the BG. If someone can provide me the BG with mentioned resolution, I'll change it.
   
2. 00:46:517 (98) - It feels a bit rare because here isn't a destacable sound, I suggest remove and follow consistence with 00:43:619 (80) - this was actually intended, you can see this in the second similar section (after the 1st Kiai) doing the same thing too.
3. 00:47:284 (103) - Move this to 00:46:943 - for consistence with 00:44:130 (82,83,84) - I think I'll do something different about this,
   not sure yet.
4. 00:51:971 (135) - Same as 00:46:517 (98) - same
5. 01:10:039 (258) - What you follow here? Change to don keeping this for variety and vocal pitch
6. 01:26:573 (341,342,343,344,345) - It better if you change to ddkkD imo nah, I think this follows the vocals just fine and finisher is meh here
7. 01:50:352 (68) - Remove to follow the vocal. Also this follow better the rhythm hm, seems fine to me and it plays better as it is
8. 01:51:715 (78) - kat? Sounds good changed to kkd and did some minor adjustments
9. 01:53:079 (88) - Same as 01:50:352 (68) - same
10. 02:19:244 (295) - Remove to follow the breaks following a similar structure like the same part which you mentioned before
11. 02:37:994 (412) - Remove? Here hasn't a destacable sound wut. this is literally the same thing as the rest of the map
12. 02:48:647 (490) - don, the sound is better imo keeping it for now, might change it if it gets mentioned by more people
    Since here the rest is almost the same as above, check these points yeah
13. 03:36:715 (48) - kat to follow the vocal and more confortable to play okay
14. 03:38:676 - 03:48:733 - Why not follow a bit the instumental here? Follow the vocal is rare for me. Only is my opinion, maybe is your mapping style hm yeah, I get the idea but following both synth and vocals doesn't go along well imo
15. 03:54:528 - I listen snares here 03:54:869 - 03:56:233 - 03:57:596 - , etc.I don't like mapping the snares here too, mostly focusing on vocals and bass. Did a minor change here though.

That's all. Maybe you deny various points because your style don't goes with me . Anyways overall is fine, nice map!
Good luck~

Thank you for the mod!

Remap pls :^)

---------------------- 00:21:801 - to 00:32:710 -
This section for some reasons completely ignores pitch, and putting to much focus on the phasing out, which is signified by kats here.
I suggest you should try to map to pitch here, it seems like the more prominent thing here.

---------------------- 00:43:619 - to 01:05:437 -
Seeing as the combos in this part focus around following the snare a bit and then deviating over to melody (except for downbeats, which are always d) i have some suggestions to make:

Since you start deviating from the snare every 2 Downbeats, the melody can be emphasized a more at following points:

----> 00:45:664 (94) - changing this note to k will match up with the melody pitch here and is coherent with 00:46:005 (96) - concerning melody pitch.
----> 00:56:573 (170) - the same goes for this note.
----> 01:01:858 (207,208,209,210,211) - making this a ddkkd will follow the melody much more and also match up with 01:02:369 (212) -

Also:

----> 00:57:255 (173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194) - this combo seems a bit out of place, since the pretty long/difficult stream doesnt emphasize anything special, whereas 00:51:801 (134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155) - emphasises the cymbal/halftime of the section.
I suggest you replace this combo with one that looks more like 00:46:346 (97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117) -

--------------------- 01:14:812 (280) - to 01:49:073 -
Is split up into 4 quarters (green lines).

1st quarter:
-> 01:10:039 (258) - why deviate from the snare here? change to d?
-> 01:14:812 (280) - same goes for this, as note placement should be enough to emphasize vocals.

2nd quarter:
-> 01:20:948 (314,315,316) - why this sudden deviation from an 1/2 kat placement? please change it to fit in with it (e.g. ddd)

3rd quarter is fine!

4th quarter is fine aswell!

-------------------- 01:49:073 - to 02:10:892 - (first half of kiai)

The whole vocal emphasis part with the triplets/5lets in the 1st kiai should be mapped with triplets only, and in the 2nd kiai should be mapped with 5lets to give the player a little more of a gentle difficulty curve between the kiais.
You already did this a bit by making 02:39:071 - this section after the kiai a bit harder than the same section before the 1st kiai (00:51:682 - )

Otherwise pretty solid!

------------------- 02:10:892 - to 02:32:710 - (second half of kiai)

Very solid similar to the same section outside of kiai, but
02:18:221 (287,288,289,290,291) - consider making this a kdkkd to incorporate the melody (lying on the 3rd note) into the pattern somehow? (Just as a note, 02:12:767 (246,247,248,249,250) - this is fine for me since the pitch is lower here and fits :3c)
02:21:545 (315) - consider removing this to emphasize the kind of sliding between the pitches the synth does, instead of blurring it out with a d?


------------------- 02:32:710 - to 02:54:528 - (After the kiai)
02:37:738 (410) - consider removing to prevent the yucky pattern and also to emphasize the sliding pitch synth in the 2 k's.
02:42:767 (444,445,446,447,448,449,450) - kdkkddk to emphasize beat/melody properly?

------------------- 02:54:528 - to 03:38:164 -
1st quarter:
-> 02:59:130 (558,559) - & 03:03:903 (580) - ; again placement should be enough for emphasis on vocal, i dont think these k's are neccessary.

2nd quarter:
-> 01:20:948 (314,315,316) - why this sudden deviation from an 1/2 kat placement? please change it to fit in with it (e.g. ddd)

3rd quarter is fine!

4th quarter is fine!

-------------------- 03:38:164 - to 04:10:892 -

03:54:528 (107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125) - This has some weird 3/2 gaps that dont really sound good;
I suggest you map it so it doesnt have any 3/2 gaps, but still emphasizes the vocals.

Something like that or similar.

Else its fine!

------------------- 04:10:892 - to 04:32:710 - (1st half of 2nd kiai)

The whole vocal emphasis should be done with 5lets here!
See my suggestion for the 1st half of 1st kiai!

------------------- 04:32:710 - 04:54:528 - (2nd half of 2nd kiai)

04:37:312 (393,394,395,396,397,398,399) - this pattern looks quite hard and can be simplified to ddkdk k firstly, to give the melody more emphasis since the pitch slides here again, and to make this pattern not unnecessarily hard since its one of the only offhand patterns here.
04:43:363 (442) - remove this note to emphasize melody a bit?

------------------ After 2nd Kiai

05:30:324 (696,698,700,702) - color those to d since theres no pitch rising synth here?

---------------------------------------------------------------------
The Rest actually looks fine!

Good luck with this map, its pretty good, but needs some polish!

Dank u mah frend

edit: added some slight sv stuff at the beginning

Voyage wrote:

SΞCTOR #712

NM Request | ✶ | Taiko

Metadata Check

• Source

1. Change the current Source to "東方風神録　～ Mountain of Faith.", the official game title seems to have the weird intentional spacing with the hyphen. Changed that one back.
   Tags
2. Not entirely sure, but is the tag "Shizuka" referencing to this Touhou character? If so, shouldn't it be "Shizuha" instead? lol yeah this was a typo, fixed
3. Add 秋 静葉 in tags, Name of Shizuha Aki in Japanese if you're using that tag. (Double check to see if 秋 静葉 is supposed to be the other way around due to Romanisation.)
4. Add Team Shanghai Alice in tags, ZUN releases Doujin games/music under this circle.
5. Add 上海アリス幻楽団 or 上海アリス幻樂団 in tags, Japanese name of "Team Shanghai Alice". Since you seem to have Japanese versions of the English tags, would keep consistency with your tags.
6. Add 穣子 in tags, Name of Minoriko Aki in Japanese. (I didn't add 秋 to the full name since it's already been mentioned above to avoid duplication of tags.)
7. Add Stage 1 Boss Theme in tags, since the theme this arrangement was based off of is played during Minoriko Aki's boss fight in the game.
8. Add Drum & Bass and DnB in tags, to indicate the music genre of the song.
9. Add Misty in tags, this is another alias that 美里 (Misato) goes by. (Optional)
10. Add Reitaisai 11 in tags, this song also starred in the album called "Halozy Best vol.2" for the event Reitaisai. (Optional)
11. Add HLZY-0019 in tags, catalog number of the album "Halozy Best vol.2". (Optional)
12. Add HLZY-0011 in tags, this is the catalog number of the album "Tonic Triangle". (Optional)

I highly appreciate the effort you put in for the metadata using several sources, but unfortunately, the character limit of osu restricts me from adding more tags, which is why I had to delete some already (e.g. Team Shanghai Alice). However, I can try rearranging the tags so some less relevant tags get replaced with more relevant ones.
Sources used: 16.big, Tonic Triangle, Mountain of Faith, Halozy Best vol.2, Team Shanghai Alice, ZUN, Lyrics: Paranoid Lost, VGMdb, SoundCloud.
Footnote: Note that I couldn't use information for Metadata on the official Halozy website under its Discography tab, since it's currently being updated and they actually link to the Touhou Wiki instead, so I had to use Touhou Wiki as the alternative for some parts of this Metadata Check.

General Suggestions

• Background Image

1. Right now your BG's dimensions aren't exactly the best considering the dimensions are 1200 x 960, so here's some alternatives that you can use: 1920 x 1080, 1920 x 1200. These higher resolution background images should hopefully fit the theme and they're allowed due to recent changes in the Ranking Criteria. But if you can find a higher resolution image of your current BG than that's better. Took me way too long to scale everything by myself, but now the BG has a better resolution, though it's cropped now.

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:42:085 (71) - Change to k, could have a Kat note here to show progression in the stream since the music is winding up into the first section of the song here. Unless you wanted to keep this stream here consistent with its patterns. Hm, I see your point and I'd normally change that, but I want to keep the pattern consistent here. The kkkdk appears only one time as ddkkkdk on 02:37:312 (393,394,395,396,397,398,399) -, but with the kdk triplet from before introducing this pattern better.
2. 01:27:255 (344) - Change to D finisher, it would emphasize the faint bass in the background and the long vocals here as well as introduce the spinner section here. That makes sense to me, but I'm still not sure about how I want to do this. In this section I mostly map to the vocal pitch, and a Don would contradict this emphasis. However, a Kat finish wouldn't fit either, as they are only mapped to the cymbals. I won't change this for now, but I'll give it a try if people keep pointing this out.
3. 02:18:221 (275,277) - CTRL+G these two notes, so the Kat note can represent the higher pitched synths at 02:18:392 much better. Did something different here.
4. 03:16:346 (633) - Change to D finisher, would represent the bass here and also make the drawn out vocals here more impactful as well as indicate the start of the spinners here. See the explanation above.
5. 03:53:676 (104) - Change to k, the singer here is really loud here and emphasizing that with a Kat would sound better. Okay, changed.

Overall Summary

1. Not much to suggest, solid structure with consistent patterns that emphasized the vocalist and rhythm pretty well. I do feel you could make the map a bit harder and it still would be reasonable and that would allow some variations in the patterns since right now the first half and second half are pretty similar, unless this was the intention when you mapped it.

Best of endeavors with this marathon.
Thanks for requesting from SΞCTOR #712.

Thanks a lot for the mod!

By the way, this would be more of an applicable official BG source, compared to the current link in the description.

Right, fixed that. Thanks a bunch again!

From my modding queue.

[Inner Oni]

> 01:04:585 (225,226) - how about d _ to make the structure looks better? I feel like no more than 7-plets should be used in this section since there's no vocal. Meanwhile, 01:04:414 - / 01:04:585 - k k will be too clumsy imo. Removing 01:04:670 - and changing 01:04:585 - to kat can enhance the flow as well.

! 01:49:073 - The kiai itself is quite good, but the overall density flow considering with the 2nd Kiai is expected to be better/ with slightly differences: try to reduce the density of the 1st Kiai a bit, and avoid simple copy&paste work in the 2nd Kiai which is extremely noticeable.

> 01:50:267 (67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - I do think this 7-plets are too heavy for the first Kiai, 1+_+5 would be better, so as to create a better spreading coming up.

> 01:52:994 - ^ same case as above

> 02:10:892 - reduce the coming up density as well, they are too heavy, way too heavy. For example you may try these patterns and spacing effects:

- 02:10:892 (219) -

- 02:12:255 (226) -

(Then you can see that the densities before Kiais are already so high relatively, you should consider reduce the overall density in the whole map too, if needed)

> 02:31:687 - this stream looks boring, at least you can change 02:32:369 - / 02:32:454 - to dd to prevent monotonous spamming of dons and kats over here and there. I know that you try to use kat to fit the vocal sound at 02:32:028 - , but it's definitely not so good to 100% follow it without any variation as it will affect the gameplay effect.

! 02:54:528 - This section is completely a copy&paste work with the one at 01:05:437 - , please do make some VARIATIONS.

! 04:10:892 - another C&P work... In the 2nd Kiai, you may keep those 7-plets (a higher density can be used, and it is more comfortable for its existence at the climax of the music). However, some parts are overdone:

> 04:16:346 - these consecutive 5-plets are so zipped, players can't breathe X_X. Despite poor spacing problem (break/pause), the emphases on vocal/instruments are really blurred.

Let's try some amendments from 04:16:346 - to 04:19:073 - (also apply to any other applicable situations later on):

- Remove 04:16:943 - / 04:17:965 -
- Change 04:18:051 - to kat (prevent repetition)

^ Some spacing is provided, better note spread comparing with the 1st Kiai, very clear vocal and instrumental emphases stated simultaneously.


> 04:53:505 - similar case with 02:31:687 - , but you may use more complicated patterns put in the stream actually.

> 04:59:471 - / 05:10:380 - another monotonous and too simple stream which triggers the players a lot, poor emphases for showing the melody.

Some recommendation for you to polish: 04:58:789 (536) -

- 04:59:556 - remove a note here to provide some spacing. Spacing can be used as supporting focusing work!

- If I remove ^ this note, then the whole structure looks a bit porous, then a note added at 04:59:045 - would be nice to maintain the overall density

- 04:59:471 - more colours are used, matching the melody pitch and enhance the note flow to a large extent

* Of course you can have your own modifications, these are just examples only.

> 05:16:346 - This time, the density drops down even the BGM is not so calm as 03:49:073 - . I dont really understand why you would adopt an easy mapping style right here. This section should be much denser than 03:49:073 - , fix it on your own too! (I guess you have some idea already :> )

[]

That's all for now, the general consistency and patterns are concrete, but they are too rigid. Try variating the patterns and enhancing the note spread, I wish you good luck from now on! Cheers

Skylish wrote:

From my modding queue.

[Inner Oni]

> 01:04:585 (225,226) - how about d _ to make the structure looks better? I feel like no more than 7-plets should be used in this section since there's no vocal. Meanwhile, 01:04:414 - / 01:04:585 - k k will be too clumsy imo. Removing 01:04:670 - and changing 01:04:585 - to kat can enhance the flow as well.
My intention with this 9-plet was to underline the end of this stanza with the longest pattern mapped right before the finish which introduces the new one, but I do agree with you that it might be too dense, especially considering it appears pretty early in the song. Did something here.

! 01:49:073 - The kiai itself is quite good, but the overall density flow considering with the 2nd Kiai is expected to be better/ with slightly differences: try to reduce the density of the 1st Kiai a bit, and avoid simple copy&paste work in the 2nd Kiai which is extremely noticeable.
I'm actually not sure about how I want to arrange that, since nerfing the 1st Kiai would make the way I'm seeing this song as a map feel unnatural to me. I agree with splitting up the 7-plets and doing some density changes here and there, but I don't want to touch what I've mapped too much due to personal preferences. Will do something on my own.

> 01:50:267 (67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - I do think this 7-plets are too heavy for the first Kiai, 1+_+5 would be better, so as to create a better spreading coming up.

> 01:52:994 - ^ same case as above Both fixed.

> 02:10:892 - reduce the coming up density as well, they are too heavy, way too heavy. For example you may try these patterns and spacing effects:

- 02:10:892 (219) -

- 02:12:255 (226) -

(Then you can see that the densities before Kiais are already so high relatively, you should consider reduce the overall density in the whole map too, if needed)
Did something here, I hope this is better now.

> 02:31:687 - this stream looks boring, at least you can change 02:32:369 - / 02:32:454 - to dd to prevent monotonous spamming of dons and kats over here and there. I know that you try to use kat to fit the vocal sound at 02:32:028 - , but it's definitely not so good to 100% follow it without any variation as it will affect the gameplay effect.
did something

! 02:54:528 - This section is completely a copy&paste work with the one at 01:05:437 - , please do make some VARIATIONS.
aaaaa exactly the same rhythm and melody Okay, I'll change some stuff here, but I'm not gonna touch the echo in its coloring because it is apparently the same except for 03:04:073 (559) - which I can make stand out by CTRL+G'ing 558 and 559, other than that special thing it feels awkward to me to have this sound different than the first one.

! 04:10:892 - another C&P work... In the 2nd Kiai, you may keep those 7-plets (a higher density can be used, and it is more comfortable for its existence at the climax of the music). However, some parts are overdone:

> 04:16:346 - these consecutive 5-plets are so zipped, players can't breathe X_X. Despite poor spacing problem (break/pause), the emphases on vocal/instruments are really blurred.
Hm yeah, this is indeed pretty draining

Let's try some amendments from 04:16:346 - to 04:19:073 - (also apply to any other applicable situations later on):

- Remove 04:16:943 - / 04:17:965 -
Removed 04:16:431 - and 04:17:454 - instead, feels way more natural to me. Applied your suggestion to the 2nd one where this applies to,
though, to make it more consistent with the first Kiai.

- Change 04:18:051 - to kat (prevent repetition)
Nope, having repetition on this was totally intended. It may look lazy but I believe that it is the best way to express the repeating vocals/lyrics.

^ Some spacing is provided, better note spread comparing with the 1st Kiai, very clear vocal and instrumental emphases stated simultaneously.


> 04:53:505 - similar case with 02:31:687 - , but you may use more complicated patterns put in the stream actually.
Yep, changed it, but no unnecessary complex patterns, as they'd sound bad.

> 04:59:471 - / 05:10:380 - another monotonous and too simple stream which triggers the players a lot, poor emphases for showing the melody.

Some recommendation for you to polish: 04:58:789 (536) -

- 04:59:556 - remove a note here to provide some spacing. Spacing can be used as supporting focusing work!

- If I remove ^ this note, then the whole structure looks a bit porous, then a note added at 04:59:045 - would be nice to maintain the overall density

- 04:59:471 - more colours are used, matching the melody pitch and enhance the note flow to a large extent

* Of course you can have your own modifications, these are just examples only.
Did some adjustments to this part.

> 05:16:346 - This time, the density drops down even the BGM is not so calm as 03:49:073 - . I dont really understand why you would adopt an easy mapping style right here. This section should be much denser than 03:49:073 - , fix it on your own too! (I guess you have some idea already :> ) Well, I agree with you that this is not nearly as calm as 03:49:073 -, but I do believe that this is still much calmer than the previous part so I decided to make this part as calm as I believe it is. I increased the density here to give a contrast, though.


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That's all for now, the general consistency and patterns are concrete, but they are too rigid. Try variating the patterns and enhancing the note spread, I wish you good luck from now on! Cheers

Really nice mod, thank you so much! It helped me a lot and made me reconsider some things

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Good luck~ :3

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[Oni]

1. 00:26:914 (12) - change to k? I heard pitch is higher than 00:26:573 - .
   Piano pitch is higher here indeed, but I'm focusing on synth pitch only and it'd lose the impact on 13 of I changed this to kat.
2. 00:31:517 (22,23) - change to dd? It can emphasis 00:32:710 (25) - .
   Same reason as above, the beginning is fine to me as it is.
3. 00:47:880 (107) - change to k? It will shows the difference of sounds from 00:47:198 (102,103,104) - . I think it will also make ease of hitting.sure
   
   • 
     Same as above.
     
   1. 00:56:062 (165) - I prefer don here to vary between don and kat each 2nd measure
   2. 01:01:517 (203) - did kkk here
   3. 02:34:244 (360) - same as above, I like starting the stanza with ddk here and vary later on.
   4. 02:39:698 (399) -
   5. 02:45:153 (438) - did something different here.
   6. 02:50:608 (479) -
   7. 02:53:335 (499) -
   8. 04:34:244 (370) - nah
   9. 04:39:698 (411) -
   
   no comment = fixed
4. 01:15:153 - add 1/4 dd? I think the next 1/6 will be easier to hit by changing flow with triplet.
   I like the current spacing as it gives more impact on vocals. I'll reconsider this is mentioned by other people.
5. 03:04:244 - Same as above.
6. 01:25:721 (336) - change to d? It will shows the difference of vocals from 01:24:017 (328,329,330,331) - .
   okay.
7. 03:14:812 (614) - Same as above.
   CTRL+G'd this with the next note.
8. 01:27:255 - ~ 01:36:801 - Consider changing spinners to sliders. Spinner-effects conceal the map so it hard to read the map.
9. 03:16:346 - ~ 03:25:892 - Same as above.
   Fuk this, I'll gather some opinions on it.
10. 01:39:358 - or 01:39:698 - or 01:40:039 - add d? In order to match the atmosphere of vocals and make diversity.
    
    • 
      Same as above.
      
    1. 01:42:085 - or 01:42:426 - or 01:42:767 -
    2. 02:22:994 - or 02:23:335 - or 02:23:676 -
    3. 02:25:721 - or 02:26:062 - or 02:26:403 -
    4. 03:28:448 - or 03:28:789 - or 03:29:130 -
    5. 03:31:176 - or 03:31:517 - or 03:31:858 -
    6. 04:44:812 - or 04:45:153 - or 04:45:494 -
    7. 04:47:539 - or 04:47:880 - or 04:48:221 -

I had that in mind before, but I'm still unsure whether this breaks up the consistency of the map regarding buildup or not. I'll ask some people again. No change for now.

Good luck~ :3

Thank you for the mod!

Moin, von meiner Queueueueue

[Oni]
00:35:778 (34,36,38,40) - =>d?
00:38:164 (41) - bis 00:40:722 (56) - und folgende - finde ich persönlich ziemlich unangenehm
00:43:619 (80) - bis 01:05:437 (235) - und alle ähnlichen Abschnitte: Hin und wieder mal die Hihat-16tel mit Fünfer-Mustern betonen
00:46:943 (101) - Hier auf jeden Fall eine Note hinsetzen
01:06:801 (242) -, 01:09:528 (256) -, 01:17:710 (297) -, usw. würde ich 1/2 nach rechts auf 1-und verschieben.
01:27:255 (345) -, 01:29:812 (2) -, 01:32:710 (3) - usw. löschen und den Spinner an dieser Stelle starten. Hat mich beim Spielen ziemlich verwirrt
02:55:892 (524) - usw.: wie oben
03:12:255 (609) - =>d
03:16:346 (627) - usw.: wie oben
03:41:403 (68,69,70,71,72,73) - =>kddkkd
03:46:005 (82) - =>k
03:59:130 (125,126,127,128) - => kddk

Viel Glück!

octagonal wrote:

Moin, von meiner Queueueueue quehuehuehuehuehue

[Oni]
00:35:778 (34,36,38,40) - =>d? Nope, die Noten habe ich als kat mapped weil der Synth dort höher ist.
00:38:164 (41) - bis 00:40:722 (56) - und folgende - finde ich persönlich ziemlich unangenehm Was schlägst du da vor?
00:43:619 (80) - bis 01:05:437 (235) - und alle ähnlichen Abschnitte: Hin und wieder mal die Hihat-16tel mit Fünfer-Mustern betonen Sorry, ich versteh nicht wirklich was du damit meinst.
00:46:943 (101) - Hier auf jeden Fall eine Note hinsetzen Das war intended für Variation in den Combos, vor allem will ich nicht am Anfang der Combo 5-plets mappen.
01:06:801 (242) -, 01:09:528 (256) -, 01:17:710 (297) -, usw. würde ich 1/2 nach rechts auf 1-und verschieben. Das war auch intended,
da hab ich mich am Vocal Pitch und an dem Bass auf dem Downbeat orientiert.
01:27:255 (345) -, 01:29:812 (2) -, 01:32:710 (3) - usw. löschen und den Spinner an dieser Stelle starten. Hat mich beim Spielen ziemlich verwirrt Ansichtssache, ich finde es besser die Vocals an sich zu mappen und die langen Noten mit Spinners in die Länge zu ziehen.
02:55:892 (524) - usw.: wie oben same
03:12:255 (609) - =>d Behalte ich im Hinterkopf, ich seh was du meinst.
03:16:346 (627) - usw.: wie oben eeee
03:41:403 (68,69,70,71,72,73) - =>kddkkd Hmm, ich finde beide Varianten klingen gut, werde das erstmal so lassen für etwas Variation.
03:46:005 (82) - =>k Nope, damit würde die nächste Note ihren Impact verlieren.
03:59:130 (125,126,127,128) - => kddk Die Kats sind auf die Noten mapped, wo die Vocals am stärksten sind.

Viel Glück!

Danke für den Mod!

Hi there!
I've already overlooked the map month ago. It's now a way better.

[Oni]

1. 00:53:335 (144,145,146) - I don't think connecting your triplet to the 7plet pattern is a good idea. Consider using triplet in another spot ?
2. 00:58:789 (184) - Maybe change this one as d ? You'll get a nice mirror pattern. I actually like how it flow with the kkddk.
3. 01:05:437 - 01:16:346 - careful about your triplet usage on this section! There's only 2 triplets on this section. Using few triplet on this section is okay. But I think using a triplet here 01:12:767 - & deleting this note : 01:13:448 (274) - will make the triplet usage on this section more consistent.
4. 01:24:528 - 01:27:255 - I'd suggest you to use at least 1 triplet on this pattern. I can understand you're using only 1/2 & 1/1 to follow the vocal here. But it'd be more consistent with this section : 01:16:687 - 01:21:801 - . using only 1/1 & 1/2 here 01:22:142 (322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333) - is actually ok, since the vocal is like reverb. But the vocal do start a new sentence on the lyrics here 01:24:187 (331) - . tldr: 01:24:528 - 01:27:255 - using triplet somewhere in this section to make difference with background vocal from 01:22:142 (322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331) - could be cool.
   btw, if you fix it, don't forget on the other similar part.
5. 01:57:085 (116) - I'd highly suggest you to delete this note to make a 1/1 break. It does also follow the vocal better. (if you fix it, don't forget about other similar part)
6. 01:57:255 - 01:59:983 - btw, I can understand the structure of the 1st part of the pattern, but for this part, the k density
7. 03:37:142 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57) - it's not detected by AImod. But resnap everynote. I'm pretty sure the pattern was copy paste. There's some note which is 1ms off. It's not a major problem when it's not detected by AImod. But it's actually a problem here, since note are 1ms before the SV change.
8. If you deleted the note here : 01:57:085 - ; might be more consistent to also delete it here 01:59:812 (137) -
9. I can understand you want to make the 2nd kiai harder than the 1st one. But the gap between those 2 kiai, is actually quite huge. I'd highly suggest you to slightly nerf the 2nd kiai, or slighly buff the 1st one.

That's a unique way to follow vocal! But I find it kinda interesting.
You may ask me to re-check in 2~3 mods, or if a bubble is set.
good luck!

Kin wrote:

Hi there!
I've already overlooked the map month ago. It's now a way better.

[Oni]

1. 00:53:335 (144,145,146) - I don't think connecting your triplet to the 7plet pattern is a good idea. Consider using triplet in another spot ?
   Changed to k and moved to 00:53:079 -. Like this, it keeps consistency with 01:03:903 -.
   
2. 00:58:789 (184) - Maybe change this one as d ? You'll get a nice mirror pattern. I actually like how it flow with the kkddk.
   hm, I'm not 100% sure if that'd be inconsistent in its emphasis on similar sounds. But I agree on the flow aspect, I'll try it out.
   
3. 01:05:437 - 01:16:346 - careful about your triplet usage on this section! There's only 2 triplets on this section. Using few triplet on this section is okay. But I think using a triplet here 01:12:767 - & deleting this note : 01:13:448 (274) - will make the triplet usage on this section more consistent.
   Nope, I don't like using similar patterning for something that feels different to me. As you can see, up until 01:13:448 (274) -, more notes are sung by the vocals. Now, from mentioned timestamp onwards until the 1/6, vocals are mostly repeating and have an echo effect to it. With the rather repeptitive usage of 1/2 patterns, I want to catch this effect. Because of that, I'd like to remain this unchanged.
   
4. 01:24:528 - 01:27:255 - I'd suggest you to use at least 1 triplet on this pattern. I can understand you're using only 1/2 & 1/1 to follow the vocal here. But it'd be more consistent with this section : 01:16:687 - 01:21:801 - . using only 1/1 & 1/2 here 01:22:142 (322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331,332,333) - is actually ok, since the vocal is like reverb. But the vocal do start a new sentence on the lyrics here 01:24:187 (331) - . tldr: 01:24:528 - 01:27:255 - using triplet somewhere in this section to make difference with background vocal from 01:22:142 (322,323,324,325,326,327,328,329,330,331) - could be cool.
   Alright, that does make sense to me. And aside from that, I believe it brings up a nice contrast to the previous part, since this one is more intense due to the higher amount of instrument played here. Applied.
   
   btw, if you fix it, don't forget on the other similar part.
   
5. 01:57:085 (116) - I'd highly suggest you to delete this note to make a 1/1 break. It does also follow the vocal better. (if you fix it, don't forget about other similar part)
   hm, I see the point, but I'm not sure about the spike to the second Kiai if I apply this. The reason for this is that I'd like to keep the note density in this special part in the second one as it is, and since you mentioned the spike being too big, that'd be quite troublesome. If totally necessary,
   I can figure out a way to rearrange that to fit the map's structure and overall density. But I won't change this for now.
   
6. 01:57:255 - 01:59:983 - btw, I can understand the structure of the 1st part of the pattern, but for this part, the k density
   ? I don't really get what you mean
   Edit: Clarified this via IRC, remain unchanged.
   
7. 03:37:142 (51,52,53,54,55,56,57) - it's not detected by AImod. But resnap everynote. I'm pretty sure the pattern was copy paste. There's some note which is 1ms off. It's not a major problem when it's not detected by AImod. But it's actually a problem here, since note are 1ms before the SV change.
   don't do copy and paste kids, even if you're sure you didn't fixed.
   
8. If you deleted the note here : 01:57:085 - ; might be more consistent to also delete it here 01:59:812 (137) -
   Same deal with what I mentioned above.
   
9. I can understand you want to make the 2nd kiai harder than the 1st one. But the gap between those 2 kiai, is actually quite huge. I'd highly suggest you to slightly nerf the 2nd kiai, or slighly buff the 1st one.
   I don't really think that the second Kiai is much harder than the first Kiai, except for the 'back-and-forth'-ish k ddd k dkd k (I think you know what I mean) pattern, and even that looks fine from my point of view. I added some notes in the first Kiai to match with the structure of the second one, though. I hope it is better now.

That's a unique way to follow vocal! But I find it kinda interesting.
You may ask me to re-check in 2~3 mods, or if a bubble is set.
good luck!

Thanks a lot for the mod!

Also, ich versuche es dann einfach mal!
Erwarte nicht zu viel D:
Achja, ich bin echt schlecht im erklären, hoffe du verstehst was ich meine!

Oni


Werde posten sofern ich noch mehr finde, Green-chan!
Hoffe das hat eeeetwas gebracht

Yumyum- wrote:

Also, ich versuche es dann einfach mal!
Erwarte nicht zu viel D:
Achja, ich bin echt schlecht im erklären, hoffe du verstehst was ich meine!

Oni

Mod

Die drei Streams:

• 01:47:113 (45) - d ? - (Auch) Wenn man nach Vocals geht (wie du es ja auch machst), hört man 'nen starken Ton raus, welchen du als k gemappt hast (46:346; 46:687; 47:028) - den genannten Punkt empfinde ich zumindest eher als d -> Also 3x kddd ab 01:46:346 + Rest des Streams passt imo, da es zu den Vocals passt

Bildlich: https://puu.sh/wLHt3/62fa5b4b01.PNG
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• 04:08:164 (161) Im Grunde same, hier würde ich es aber 4x kddd + k, da der Vocal Aspekt wegfällt imo

• 05:35:437 (751) - Klingt basically gleich, also einfach angleichen imo
Die Streams lass ich nach wie vor so, in ihrer jetzigen Form sind sie imo consistent und variierend genug.

Bildlich: https://puu.sh/wLHt2/e477e37d3c.PNG

Theoretisch als Vorschlag:
Man hört 'nen 'Glockenton', welchen man mitmappen könnte als k
Ist eher ungewöhnlich imo, aber wollte es nur grundsätzlich als Option aufbringen
-> https://puu.sh/wLHTg/567590c8ce.PNG
1. - 4. sind eben die Töne, der Stream trifft aber nur auf den 3. zu (imo)
Bei dem 2. Stream fällt imo 1. und 4. weg also d
(Kannst es dir bei Zeit ja ansehen, persönlich ist es aber auch angenehmer ohne diese Glockentöne)
Hmm, ich finde das 1/2 spacing zwischen den jeweiligen kats in deinem Vorschlag zu viel des Guten und nimmt die eigentliche Emphasis +
+ Consistency weg.
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• 05:03:733 (570) - k ? Klingt an sich same wie 05:00:835 (550,551,552) - Also halt kdk
Das kdk ist dafür gedacht, dass es die Melodie aufrechterhält, bis der Pitch schließlich beim kdddk deutlich runtergeht. Beim kkd kdd ist das ähnlich, allerdings geht da der Pitch schon bei dem kdd runter, weswegen ein kdk den Effekt nehmen würde.

• 05:05:437 (584,585,586) - Finde persönlich dkd würde imo besser passen
Das widerspräche der Struktur der Map im gesamten. Und für mich klingt es so, wie es jetzt ist, auch besser.

• 05:06:971 (594,595) - Würde tauschen -> kd - ab 06:630 langer hoher ton (k), der dann aber tiefer ist bei 06:971 (k) - (Bin mir da aber etwas unsicher)
Klar, warum nicht.

Werde posten sofern ich noch mehr finde, Green-chan!
Hoffe das hat eeeetwas gebracht

Danke für den Mod!

This will probably be my last post in this thread, merely a notification for those who are following the thread (if there are any at all) to check the map's description, I've updated it with something I wanted to post here, but did it as it is now anyway. Again, huge thanks to all modders and star shooters, I really appreciate the contribution!

/waiting for graveyard

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