Halozy - Paranoid Lost [Taiko]

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Greenshell
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sonntag, 20. August 2017 at 04:06:25

Artist: Halozy
Title: Paranoid Lost
Source: 東方風神録 ~ Mountain of Faith.
Tags: Fuujinroku 東方Project Shizuha 秋静葉 秋穣子 Minoriko Aki Tonic Triangle HLZY-0011 Touhou th10 Stage 1 Boss 稲田姫様に叱られるから Because Princess Inada is Scolding Me 美里 Misato Misty ZUN Team Shanghai Alice 上海アリス幻樂団 C81 すみじゅん sumijun DnB Drum and Bass
BPM: 176
Filesize: 10296kb
Play Time: 05:38
Difficulties Available:
  1. Oni (4,37 stars, 1779 notes)


Download: Halozy - Paranoid Lost
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At first, I was mapping this song just out of love towards it, knowing only very little about mapping, consistency and concepts. When I was done, I checked through it multiple times to assure things were consistent, let people testplay it, and finally, I began looking for mods. At first, I was pretty confident about the execution of patterning and stucture, but the more mods I received, the more I felt a sense of doubt coming up, and as the first BN provided feedback, I looked into the map once more and didn't realize how unfinished it was in its quality just yet, but as days passed by, the feel of doubt rose up once again. It was until my PC crashed and I was unable to do anything anymore that I received a few more mods and feedback from mappers, but as my PC crashed, my hopes in ranking this piece as my first map were shattered. Though, I would say, it was for good. I spent a lot of time listening to music in my free time, as I still do and will probably do for my whole life, and theorized about mapping concepts, emphasis, consistency, and so on. Whenever this song came up in my playlist, I thought about what I could do, how I could structure the map, and then reflect upon the things I mapped in the past, that is what this map is, as of now. With a whole different mindset towards mapping and respect and love towards the song, I came to the decision that I don't want to push this mapset anymore. I do realize what I did wrong with this map now and I'm not satisfied with the result at all, therefore I'll leave it rotting in the graveyard. Some day, I might return to this song and remap it with the experience I've earned until then, because I don't want to leave this beautiful piece of music from Halozy unfinished as it would just be an unpleasant memory in my mapping history to leave it out, and ungrateful to everyone who supported the map. Once I decide to do that, I'll probably link the new version of the map in this one's description.
That being out of the way, I want to say my thanks to everyone that contributed to this in any way, you've helped improving this map a lot.

Source of the background image can be found here.
Remus
Nepuri
Smallwu
Midnaait
Ak1o
404 AccNotFound
Estaryo
DarkVortex
Namki
Akemi_Homura
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Xay
gaston_2199
Voyage
Skylish
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Remus
Hello. There were some exams, so sorry for that late.

[Inner Oni]
  1. Map is so repetetive, so i think i'll not mention every similar thing more than twice, because it will be like mod of "^" (in case i find them, of course ).
  2. 01:37:482 (3,4) - similar sounds, i see no reason for kat at 3. Change it to don. Also, i recommend you to even delete last one, 4, because of 01:37:146 - 01:37:823 - .
  3. 01:47:625 (51,52) - you can also emphasize drum's sound ending by putting here kats.
  4. 01:50:267 (67,68,69) - if you tried to emphasize vocal here, so better to 01:50:352 (68,69) - swap them. I know, that you try to map 01:50:437 (69) - those sounds like don, but here is no problem to switch it to don.
  5. 02:00:494 (143) - kat here will suit better and make this part a little various. Also, you did that pattern lately at 02:03:051 (162,163,164,165) - this moment.
  6. 02:01:176 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155) - the same stream as ago, but you did here 02:01:517 (153) - kat here and idk why.
  7. 02:03:903 (169) - the same suggestion, as i said above.
  8. 02:11:403 (234) - if you decided to fix that moments, so here is another one.
  9. 02:14:471 (257,258,259) - oh i forgot to say somethinh about rhytm here- 02:14:642 (259) - is note, which better to tap, than to stream ( i mean 02:14:471 (257,258,259) - d.k will be better for rhytm, than ddk, because you emphasize kat by spacing)
  10. 02:15:323 (264) - don to emphasize the beginning of next stream (which starts with kat).
  11. 02:20:948 (308) - don suits more.
  12. 02:37:312 (406,407,408,409,410,411,412) - bad rhytmic here, try to change this pattern
  13. 02:41:744 (439,440) - oh, here you did d.k, as i suggested some moments ago. You know, your map has good stabilty, but moments like this are a bit weird, because player get used to play similar sounds as similar patterns (in most cases).
  14. 02:53:335 (525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536) - bad rhytmics again. In this moment i can't what are you emphasizing here.
  15. 03:26:573 (3,4) - as i said before, or fix to dd, or delete 4 and make 3 don.
  16. 03:48:733 (92) - why kat?
  17. 04:09:358 (176) - i usually do kat in that moments, so maybe you'll like this idea too. And even maybe make 04:09:358 (176,177,178) - them kkk.
  18. 04:12:085 (193,194,195,196,197,198,199) - if you hear stream in this moment - you have low sound oor smth else. Delete them and listen with 25-50%. I hear stream starts 04:12:767 (200) - here, but not at 04:12:085 (193) - this moment.
  19. 04:22:994 (285,286,287,288,289,290,291) - well, i'll not repeat them, but i hope you'll understand what i mean.
  20. 04:25:806 (306,307,308) - strange emphasizing, but ok.
  21. 04:34:585 (374,375,376,377) - also want to point, that here i hear 5-note stream. For example, delete 04:35:011 - and put 1 note at 04:34:840 - . Plus, by this you emphasize 04:35:096 - loud sound by spacing.
  22. 04:42:767 (435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443) - i think, you can do better this part.
  23. 04:54:869 - so here starts new musical part and you get some really cool sounds to emphasize, but you continue to map similar. Think about reampping in more various style. 05:02:198 (557,558,559,560) - good example, but use more density.
  24. 05:05:778 (582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589) - in that density this looks more better, than 04:54:869 (502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519) - , but you lose 05:05:608 - sounds here.


Well, in conclusion i want to say, that map is really cool and fun :D
I suggest some things and hope that some will help you.
Good luck on your way!
Topic Starter
Greenshell

Remus wrote:

Hello. There were some exams, so sorry for that late.

[Inner Oni]
  1. Map is so repetetive, so i think i'll not mention every similar thing more than twice, because it will be like mod of "^" (in case i find them, of course ).
  2. 01:37:482 (3,4) - similar sounds, i see no reason for kat at 3. Change it to don. Also, i recommend you to even delete last one, 4, because of 01:37:146 - 01:37:823 - . sounds good, changed.
  3. 01:47:625 (51,52) - you can also emphasize drum's sound ending by putting here kats. hmm, sounds better than using dons after all, changed.
  4. 01:50:267 (67,68,69) - if you tried to emphasize vocal here, so better to 01:50:352 (68,69) - swap them. I know, that you try to map 01:50:437 (69) - those sounds like don, but here is no problem to switch it to don. swapping it would make it sound weird imo, unchanged.
  5. 02:00:494 (143) - kat here will suit better and make this part a little various. Also, you did that pattern lately at 02:03:051 (162,163,164,165) - this moment. if you look closely, I used the same pattern on both kiais after the triplet / 5-plet part (D k ddd ddk), also I mapped 02:03:051 (162,163,164,165) - the same way as 01:52:142 (80,81,82,83) - for a consistent pattern, and on the second kiai I used a k kkd pattern instead of k kdd to make it different from the first kiai, but still consistent. Because of that, I'll leave it unchanged.
  6. 02:01:176 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155) - the same stream as ago, but you did here 02:01:517 (153) - kat here and idk why. that one actually was for the sake of variety, however I think it sounds better if I change it to kkddddk for consistency.
  7. 02:03:903 (169) - the same suggestion, as i said above. wrong timestamp maybe? I used ddkkddk on 01:52:994 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - this one, using ddkdddk for this one makes it sound similar while being slightly different.
  8. 02:11:403 (234) - if you decided to fix that moments, so here is another one. same as above.
  9. 02:14:471 (257,258,259) - oh i forgot to say somethinh about rhytm here- 02:14:642 (259) - is note, which better to tap, than to stream ( i mean 02:14:471 (257,258,259) - d.k will be better for rhytm, than ddk, because you emphasize kat by spacing) I think this is okay, since I use this kind of pattern quite often throughout the map, plus the kiai is overall more intense than the rest of the song.
  10. 02:15:323 (264) - don to emphasize the beginning of next stream (which starts with kat). changing this to kdd sounds off to me, but I changed this one to ddk for consistency and because it sounds better.
  11. 02:20:948 (308) - don suits more. you're right, changed.
  12. 02:37:312 (406,407,408,409,410,411,412) - bad rhytmic here, try to change this pattern changed it to ddkkkdk.
  13. 02:41:744 (439,440) - oh, here you did d.k, as i suggested some moments ago. You know, your map has good stabilty, but moments like this are a bit weird, because player get used to play similar sounds as similar patterns (in most cases). I get your point, but there is a reason why I won't change it. I decided to map the kiai parts overall a bit more intense, which is why I use ddk on these parts instead of d k. On the 'less intense' parts of the song, the patterns follow a specific structure, repeatedly changing between (k ddd ddk) and (k ddd d k). With the finisher at 02:43:619 (455) - , a new part is introduced which utilizes (k ddd ddk) as a consistent pattern.
  14. 02:53:335 (525,526,527,528,529,530,531,532,533,534,535,536) - bad rhytmics again. In this moment i can't what are you emphasizing here. I wanted to make this one different from 01:04:244 (224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235) - , using a different pattern which plays just as fine. For consistency reasons, I changed the dkk triplet to ddk, but I'll leave the ddkdkkddk stream as it is for now (may change it in the future though).
  15. 03:26:573 (3,4) - as i said before, or fix to dd, or delete 4 and make 3 don. yep.
  16. 03:48:733 (92) - why kat? the pitch is slightly higher than before, a kat would complement this.
  17. 04:09:358 (176) - i usually do kat in that moments, so maybe you'll like this idea too. And even maybe make 04:09:358 (176,177,178) - them kkk. nice idea, changed!
  18. 04:12:085 (193,194,195,196,197,198,199) - if you hear stream in this moment - you have low sound oor smth else. Delete them and listen with 25-50%. I hear stream starts 04:12:767 (200) - here, but not at 04:12:085 (193) - this moment. yes, but the second kiai is meant to follow a similar structure as the first one. Changing it would break it up and also ruin the overall consistency of the map.
  19. 04:22:994 (285,286,287,288,289,290,291) - well, i'll not repeat them, but i hope you'll understand what i mean.^
  20. 04:25:806 (306,307,308) - strange emphasizing, but ok. well, changed this one slightly
  21. 04:34:585 (374,375,376,377) - also want to point, that here i hear 5-note stream. For example, delete 04:35:011 - and put 1 note at 04:34:840 - . Plus, by this you emphasize 04:35:096 - loud sound by spacing. nice find, changed and applied the same thing to the first kiai.
  22. 04:42:767 (435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443) - i think, you can do better this part. whoops, changed!
  23. 04:54:869 - so here starts new musical part and you get some really cool sounds to emphasize, but you continue to map similar. Think about reampping in more various style. 05:02:198 (557,558,559,560) - good example, but use more density.
  24. 05:05:778 (582,583,584,585,586,587,588,589) - in that density this looks more better, than 04:54:869 (502,503,504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519) - , but you lose 05:05:608 - sounds here. didn't think about it earlier, changed that part a little.


Well, in conclusion i want to say, that map is really cool and fun :DThanks!
I suggest some things and hope that some will help you.
Good luck on your way!
Thank you for the mod!
Nepuri
17:12 Nepuri: 00:43:278 (79) -
17:12 Nepuri: 01:48:733 (58) -
17:16 Greenshell: 01:47:113 (45) -
17:16 Nepuri: :ok_hand:
17:17 Nepuri: 00:42:937 (77,79) -
17:19 Nepuri: 00:43:108 (78) -
17:22 Nepuri: 02:05:437 -
17:22 Nepuri: 01:54:528 -
17:23 Greenshell: 801:59:301 (136,137,138,139,140) -
17:26 Greenshell: 02:31:687 (362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374) -
17:27 Greenshell: 02:32:710 (374) -
17:32 Nepuri: 02:37:312 (396,397,398,399,400,401,402) -

TLDR; made some map concepts clearer and fixed some details
Smallwu
Hello, mod from my queue
[General]
  1. Try HP6, HP5 feels a little low

  2. Open your .osu file, search "background.jpg", and do the thing below here to show the two girls
    (There only can add one number. Choose a number between 80~100 to get the best effect
    0,0,"background.jpg",0,80~100
  3. Title : (Change the weird space between "録" and "~")
    東方風神録 ~ Mountain of Faith. (Bad)
    東方風神録 〜 Mountain of Faith. (Nice)

[Inner Oni]
*Let Kiai Time Volume improve to 90% or 100%? Because it's Kiai, need to highhhhhhhhhh*

00:21:801 - Remove this green line, and make the first red line sound volume cut down to 60%?

00:21:801 - 00:26:914 - All don or All kat - Reason see below

00:27:255 - 00:32:369 - All kat or All don - It's very clear that these two parts have different sound pitches. Very suggest you use different color to distinguish them

01:24:358 (334,335) - Ctrl+G to follow voice pitch, you also use dkkd at 03:13:108

01:26:403 (343) - Remove this to highlight that you're following voice

01:26:573 (343,344,345,346) - d k k d or k d k d? - First k-d (d-k) because the pitch of voice (I can't distinguish which higher, so you choose it please =w=). Second k-d because the sound effect

01:29:812 - Add a kat (or don) because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

01:29:983 - Add Spinner [01:29:983 - 01:31:687]

01:35:267 - Add a don because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

01:35:437 - Add a Spinner [01:35:437 - 01:36:289]

01:36:460 (1,2) - k k because they sound same, and they higher than (3)

02:31:772 (363,365) - Remove because no drum sound

02:48:306 (486) - d because it's easily to hit :3. Another reason is the high pitch electronic organ appears at (487), not (486), I don't think you need to highlight (486)

02:53:931 (529,530) - Ctrl+G becomes k-d. Because drum shows at (530), so use don to follow it. (529) sounds like (528), so use kat like it

03:03:903 (582) - k to follow voice

03:15:494 (644) - Remove it to highlight that you're following voice

03:15:664 (644,645,646,647) - d k k d or k d k d - Reason same as 01:26:573

03:18:903 (1) - Add a kat (or don) because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

03:19:073 - Add a Spinner [03:19:073 - 03:20:778]

03:21:119 (1,2) - Their pitches sound like d-k

03:24:358 (1) - Add a don because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

03:24:528 - Add Spinner [03:24:528 - 03:25:380]

03:25:551 (1,2) - k k because they sound same, and they higher than (3)

03:36:801 - Try to make the others part become same as here, I think here is the best :3 (d d k d K k D or d d k d K d K) [00:42:255 - 01:47:710 - 04:09:528]

03:38:164 (60) - K? Just suggest :3

04:53:590 (489,491) - Remove because no drum sound

04:57:767 (522,523,524,525,526,527) - kkd kdk - Just my thought that I think do this can highlight the high sound effects better

04:59:215 (532) - Strongly suggest you remove this because it not belongs to the ddkdkdk, they're separated

05:00:835 (544,547) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch

05:02:198 (554,555,556,557) - d k d k? They sound like that

05:03:647 (563,564) - Ctrl+G to follow electronic organ [Listen carefully, like 05:02:710 and 05:03:221 and 05:03:733]

05:10:125 (606) - Remove it, reason same as 04:59:215

05:11:744 (618,621) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch

05:36:801 (734) - kat here makes me feel good DX

05:38:164 (741) - D? Because it sounds lower than before

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Sorry for late, maybe the mod isn't good :3
Anyway, GL with Rank!
Topic Starter
Greenshell

Smallwu wrote:

Hello, mod from my queue
[General]
  1. Try HP6, HP5 feels a little low nah, this is fine since it's a marathon

  2. Open your .osu file, search "background.jpg", and do the thing below here to show the two girls
    (There only can add one number. Choose a number between 80~100 to get the best effect I like this idea, but I'll need more opinions on this
    0,0,"background.jpg",0,80~100
  3. Title : (Change the weird space between "録" and "~")
    東方風神録 ~ Mountain of Faith. (Bad)
    東方風神録 〜 Mountain of Faith. (Nice)
done
[Inner Oni]
*Let Kiai Time Volume improve to 90% or 100%? Because it's Kiai, need to highhhhhhhhhh* ok let's try it out

00:21:801 - Remove this green line, and make the first red line sound volume cut down to 60%? changed

00:21:801 - 00:26:914 - All don or All kat - Reason see below

00:27:255 - 00:32:369 - All kat or All don - It's very clear that these two parts have different sound pitches. Very suggest you use different color to distinguish them I get the idea, but honestly, it just doesn't sound good. The synth pitch is already high enough to start the map off with a kat, and the higher pitches are indeed noticable, but not worthy to use any dons. (or maybe I'm just stubborn af lol)

01:24:358 (334,335) - Ctrl+G to follow voice pitch, you also use dkkd at 03:13:108 the vocals are already followed by this cause the pitch going up, same deal with 03:13:108 - but there it's going down.

01:26:403 (343) - Remove this to highlight that you're following voice nice one, changed

01:26:573 (343,344,345,346) - d k k d or k d k d? - First k-d (d-k) because the pitch of voice (I can't distinguish which higher, so you choose it please =w=). Second k-d because the sound effect changed to d k k d, nice find!

01:29:812 - Add a kat (or don) because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

01:29:983 - Add Spinner [01:29:983 - 01:31:687]

01:35:267 - Add a don because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

01:35:437 - Add a Spinner [01:35:437 - 01:36:289] okay

01:36:460 (1,2) - k k because they sound same, and they higher than (3) I can clearly hear different pitches, changed 01:37:482 (3) - to k instead

02:31:772 (363,365) - Remove because no drum sound 02:31:687 (362,363,364) - is meant to follow the ongoing pattern, which is why I kept it like this. Though, I'm not sure about 02:31:943 (365) - since it plays smoother with it imo. I'll think about it

02:48:306 (486) - d because it's easily to hit :3. Another reason is the high pitch electronic organ appears at (487), not (486), I don't think you need to highlight (486) yep, this makes up a better flow, changed

02:53:931 (529,530) - Ctrl+G becomes k-d. Because drum shows at (530), so use don to follow it. (529) sounds like (528), so use kat like it I honestly like this pattern the way it is, sounds okay to me and plays perfectly fine

03:03:903 (582) - k to follow voice right, changed

03:15:494 (644) - Remove it to highlight that you're following voice same

03:15:664 (644,645,646,647) - d k k d or k d k d - Reason same as 01:26:573 ^

03:18:903 (1) - Add a kat (or don) because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

03:19:073 - Add a Spinner [03:19:073 - 03:20:778]

03:21:119 (1,2) - Their pitches sound like d-k

03:24:358 (1) - Add a don because the clear voice, remove the Spinner at here

03:24:528 - Add Spinner [03:24:528 - 03:25:380] same deal as before

03:25:551 (1,2) - k k because they sound same, and they higher than (3) same deal again

03:36:801 - Try to make the others part become same as here, I think here is the best :3 (d d k d K k D or d d k d K d K) [00:42:255 - 01:47:710 - 04:09:528] changed

03:38:164 (60) - K? Just suggest :3 I don't want to begin the calm part with a finish, although the drums would support it

04:53:590 (489,491) - Remove because no drum sound There are snare drums on these

04:57:767 (522,523,524,525,526,527) - kkd kdk - Just my thought that I think do this can highlight the high sound effects better changed to kdd kdk

04:59:215 (532) - Strongly suggest you remove this because it not belongs to the ddkdkdk, they're separated but my overmapping :c /s

05:00:835 (544,547) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch okay

05:02:198 (554,555,556,557) - d k d k? They sound like that sounds fine to me

05:03:647 (563,564) - Ctrl+G to follow electronic organ [Listen carefully, like 05:02:710 and 05:03:221 and 05:03:733] changed to something different

05:10:125 (606) - Remove it, reason same as 04:59:215 :c

05:11:744 (618,621) - Ctrl+G to follow pitch okay

05:36:801 (734) - kat here makes me feel good DX DX

05:38:164 (741) - D? Because it sounds lower than before nah

=====
Sorry for late, maybe the mod isn't good :3
Anyway, GL with Rank!

Thank you!
Ak1o
Mod by M4M or whatever (wieso schreib ich überhaupt englisch)

wenn ich keinen großartigen grund angebe wieso ich sachen change geh davon aus dass ich finde dass es sich besser anhört, varietät oder so, denk dir was aus

[Inner Oni]
  1. 1. 00:38:164 (41) - to 00:40:722 (56) - hier würde mir persönlich etwas mehr varietät gefallen; nach den ersten K d K d K d K d kannst du ja bspw. mit K k K d K k K d weitermachen damits nicht so lame bleibt (wäre auch meine beste option hier, auch wenn sich die stelle durchgängig komplett gleich anhört)
  2. 2. 00:48:221 (110) - könnte man zu nem d machen
  3. 3. 00:48:903 (116,117) - ctrl+G - ich vermute dass du zum großteil zum beat mappst, aber der pitch in der synth verändert sich hier nach oben weswegen ich das bevorzugen würde
  4. 4. 00:54:358 (154) - d, ich finde die k nicht passend genug
  5. 5. 00:59:812 (194,195) - siehe 3.
  6. 6. 01:01:346 (204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213) - die selbe struktur nehmen wie bei 00:55:892 (164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173) - also 01:02:113 (211) - nach 01:02:284 - verschieben (hast du 00:44:983 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - und 00:50:437 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133) - nicht anders gemacht)
  7. 7. 01:21:630 (321) - oder 01:21:715 (322) - d, unterscheidet sich dann wenigstens etwas vom vorherigen triplet (und ist weniger lame)
  8. 8. 01:22:994 (328,329) - 01:24:358 (334,335) - ctrl+G, würde daraufhin auch 01:25:721 (340) - zu nem d changen ums variabler zu machen (und wegen dem sound)
  9. 9. 01:26:573 (343,344) - ctrl+G - viel viel besser, vom sound und des spielens her intuitiver
  10. 10. 01:29:812 (2) - vllt d wegen dem voicepitch der runter geht (hast du hier 01:35:096 (1,2) - ja auch gemacht)
  11. 11. 01:43:619 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - siehe 1.
  12. 12. 01:50:011 (65) - remove, mehrere triplets hintereinander sind hier nicht so cool finde ich
  13. 13. 01:52:738 (85) - siehe 12.
  14. 14. 01:55:210 (103,104) - 01:56:233 (111,112) - vllt ctrl+G? bin mir nicht sicher, hast die pattern nachher schon benutzt und ich bin ja selber ein fan von varietät rip
  15. 15. 02:00:920 (148) - siehe 12.
  16. 16. 02:03:647 (168) - siehe 12.
  17. 17. 02:10:721 (232,233) - ctrl+G, mehr enthusiasmus auf dem finisher
  18. 18. 02:16:176 (273,274) - siehe 3.
  19. 19. 02:30:153 (352,355,359,362) - k für varietät
  20. 20. 02:32:710 (374) - finisher, dafür 02:32:625 (373) - removen
  21. 21. 02:34:329 (385,391) - einen von beiden removen, zu viele triplets meiner meinung nach
  22. 22. 02:39:784 (425,431) - siehe 21.
  23. 23. 02:48:647 (492) - d wegen flow und sound
  24. 24. 03:03:562 (580,581,582,583,584,585,586) - das pattern finde ich persönlich besser als in 01:14:471 (279,280,281,282,283,284,285) - entscheide dich hier für eins und nimm das dann in beiden fällen
  25. 25. 03:10:721 (622,623) - siehe 7.
  26. 26. 03:12:085 (629,630,635,636,641,644,645) - siehe 8. und 9.
  27. 27. 03:18:903 (2) - siehe 10.
  28. 28. 03:32:710 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - siehe 1.
  29. 29. 03:38:164 (57) - würde hier einen finisher adden; vorzugsweise sogar eher D als K wegen dem eher ruhigen part
  30. 30. 03:38:676 (58,59,60,61,62,63) - hier ist nicht viel anders als in 03:41:403 (68,69,70,71,72,73) - also entscheide dich für eins von beiden (vorzugsweise das zweite pattern)
  31. 31. 03:54:528 (108) - to 03:59:642 (125) - der part gefällt mir nicht ganz. struktur ist klar, aber patterns sind eher random in der zweiten hälfte - vielleicht 03:56:573 (114) - k für den flow und weil 03:59:301 (123,124,125) - auch kdk besitzt; dazu 03:57:767 (118,122) - gleichfarbig machen, entweder du gehst wie bei 03:57:767 (118) - nach voice oder bei 03:58:789 (122) - nach vorheriger pattern
  32. 32. 04:05:438 (142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - siehe 1.
  33. 33. 04:11:829 (187,207) - siehe 12.
  34. 34. 04:18:903 (246) - d weil du in der ersten kiai an der stelle 01:57:085 (119) - ebenfalls ein d hast
  35. 35. 04:21:630 (272) - d wegen 01:59:812 (141) - ist hier ebenfalls ein d
  36. 36. 04:22:738 (279,299) - siehe 12.
  37. 37. 04:32:539 (356,357) - siehe 17.
  38. 38. 04:41:062 - hier entweder eine note adden wie bei 02:19:244 (295) - oder diese weglassen
  39. 39. 04:40:721 (417) - und 02:18:903 (293) - identisch machen
  40. 40. 04:51:971 (475,478,482) - siehe 19.
  41. 41. 04:54:443 (496,497) - siehe 20.
  42. 42. 05:03:647 (560) - hier würde ich eher d hinpacken, hast sonst drei mal die selbe pattern hintereinander (triplet)
  43. 43. 05:04:244 (564,565,566) - könnte man auch variieren wenn du möchtest, hast du im späteren verlauf ja auch gemacht (05:12:426 (620,621,622) - )
  44. 44. 05:32:710 (699,700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714) - siehe 1.
  45. 45. 05:36:375 (726) - die stört mich irgendwie, das pattern mit der betonung passt nicht wirklich zum song wenn die note k ist. ein vorschlag von mir wäre 05:36:119 (723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731) - zu kkddkkkdk zu ändern, aber kannst stattdessen auch was anderes nehmen solange die betonung anders ist als vorher
  46. 46. 05:38:164 (738) - D wegen 01:49:073 (59) - und 04:10:892 (181) - sind beides ebenfalls Ds


ich hoffe mein (erster) mod ist nicht zu drastisch für dich, hab jetzt eher darauf geachtet struktur und flow möglichst schick zu halten (und die vorherigen mods gekonnt ignoriert). liegt im endeffekt an dir was du änderst und was nicht :)
Topic Starter
Greenshell

Ak1o wrote:

Mod by M4M or whatever (wieso schreib ich überhaupt englisch)

wenn ich keinen großartigen grund angebe wieso ich sachen change geh davon aus dass ich finde dass es sich besser anhört, varietät oder so, denk dir was aus

[Inner Oni]
  1. 1. 00:38:164 (41) - to 00:40:722 (56) - hier würde mir persönlich etwas mehr varietät gefallen; nach den ersten K d K d K d K d kannst du ja bspw. mit K k K d K k K d weitermachen damits nicht so lame bleibt (wäre auch meine beste option hier, auch wenn sich die stelle durchgängig komplett gleich anhört) ich weiß dass das monoton af ist, aber ich würde das gerne so beibehalten, gerade weil die sounds gleich bleiben. wenn das häufiger angesprochen wird, werde ich mir was überlegen
  2. 2. 00:48:221 (110) - könnte man zu nem d machen changed
  3. 3. 00:48:903 (116,117) - ctrl+G - ich vermute dass du zum großteil zum beat mappst, aber der pitch in der synth verändert sich hier nach oben weswegen ich das bevorzugen würde die pattern ist in der form consistent mapped, weswegen ich das gerne so lassen würde
  4. 4. 00:54:358 (154) - d, ich finde die k nicht passend genug meh, finde das besser als kat, das ist auch ähnlich zu dem davor und danach
  5. 5. 00:59:812 (194,195) - siehe 3. same
  6. 6. 01:01:346 (204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213) - die selbe struktur nehmen wie bei 00:55:892 (164,165,166,167,168,169,170,171,172,173) - also 01:02:113 (211) - nach 01:02:284 - verschieben (hast du 00:44:983 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - und 00:50:437 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133) - nicht anders gemacht) die pattern kommt 02:50:437 (504,505,506,507,508,509,510,511,512,513) - hier in der form nochmal vor an demselben part vom song, deswegen lass ich es erstmal so, vielleicht ändere ich was mit zukünftigen mods
  7. 7. 01:21:630 (321) - oder 01:21:715 (322) - d, unterscheidet sich dann wenigstens etwas vom vorherigen triplet (und ist weniger lame) ich versteh was du da machen willst, aber es klingt in der form imo am besten
  8. 8. 01:22:994 (328,329) - 01:24:358 (334,335) - ctrl+G, würde daraufhin auch 01:25:721 (340) - zu nem d changen ums variabler zu machen (und wegen dem sound) an der stelle habe ich vocals und bass(?) emphasized, sich am synth zu orientieren nimmt die eigentliche emphasis
  9. 9. 01:26:573 (343,344) - ctrl+G - viel viel besser, vom sound und des spielens her intuitiver ^
  10. 10. 01:29:812 (2) - vllt d wegen dem voicepitch der runter geht (hast du hier 01:35:096 (1,2) - ja auch gemacht) 01:35:096 (1,2) ist ein deutlich größerer unterschied als 01:29:642 (1,2) - was den pitch angeht, den don hab ich gesetzt um einen kontrast herzustellen, welcher bei deinem timestamp nicht so gut passt. bei 01:32:028 (1,2,3) - hab ich dasselbe gemacht, aus demselben grund wie bei 01:35:096 (1,2)
  11. 11. 01:43:619 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - siehe 1. same deal
  12. 12. 01:50:011 (65) - remove, mehrere triplets hintereinander sind hier nicht so cool finde ich die triplets sind dafür da, um die intensität der kiais hervorzuheben, da sie natürlich schwerer als die sonstigen parts sein sollen
  13. 13. 01:52:738 (85) - siehe 12. same
  14. 14. 01:55:210 (103,104) - 01:56:233 (111,112) - vllt ctrl+G? bin mir nicht sicher, hast die pattern nachher schon benutzt und ich bin ja selber ein fan von varietät rip mein fav pattern von der map :c /s | das werde ich mit sicherheit nicht ändern auch wenns in anderen mods angesprochen wird, das ist zum chorus direkt wiederholend gemappt weil es das in meinen augen so wert ist. dementsprechend auch die wiederholung der patterns
  15. 15. 02:00:920 (148) - siehe 12. same
  16. 16. 02:03:647 (168) - siehe 12. same
  17. 17. 02:10:721 (232,233) - ctrl+G, mehr enthusiasmus auf dem finisher das würde auch wieder gegen die struktur gehen
  18. 18. 02:16:176 (273,274) - siehe 3. same
  19. 19. 02:30:153 (352,355,359,362) - k für varietät ich finde es unsinnig, für die selben sounds und eine pattern die in der form (imo) sinn ergibt unterschiedlich zu mappen, aber das variiert wahrscheinlich von mapper zu mapper (und es ist consistent)
  20. 20. 02:32:710 (374) - finisher, dafür 02:32:625 (373) - removen ich will die snares an der stelle emphasizen, weil sie so nur zweimal vorkommen im song
  21. 21. 02:34:329 (385,391) - einen von beiden removen, zu viele triplets meiner meinung nach okay
  22. 22. 02:39:784 (425,431) - siehe 21. jo
  23. 23. 02:48:647 (492) - d wegen flow und sound ich lass das erstmal so wie es ist, zu nem späteren zeitpunkt werd ich das vllt ändern
  24. 24. 03:03:562 (580,581,582,583,584,585,586) - das pattern finde ich persönlich besser als in 01:14:471 (279,280,281,282,283,284,285) - entscheide dich hier für eins und nimm das dann in beiden fällen guter punkt, hab 01:14:471 (279,280,281,282,283,284,285) angepasst für consistency
  25. 25. 03:10:721 (622,623) - siehe 7.same
  26. 26. 03:12:085 (629,630,635,636,641,644,645) - siehe 8. und 9. selbe sache, hab hier die vocals emphasized
  27. 27. 03:18:903 (2) - siehe 10. same deal
  28. 28. 03:32:710 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - siehe 1. :thonking:
  29. 29. 03:38:164 (57) - würde hier einen finisher adden; vorzugsweise sogar eher D als K wegen dem eher ruhigen part ich will den ruhigen part nicht mit nem finisher beginnen, der kat gilt eher dem vocals als den instrumentals
  30. 30. 03:38:676 (58,59,60,61,62,63) - hier ist nicht viel anders als in 03:41:403 (68,69,70,71,72,73) - also entscheide dich für eins von beiden (vorzugsweise das zweite pattern) die patterns sind beide auf den jeweiligen vocal pitch mapped, also lass ich die so (und sie sind spiegelsymmetrisch ayy)
  31. 31. 03:54:528 (108) - to 03:59:642 (125) - der part gefällt mir nicht ganz. struktur ist klar, aber patterns sind eher random in der zweiten hälfte - vielleicht 03:56:573 (114) - k für den flow und weil 03:59:301 (123,124,125) - auch kdk besitzt; dazu 03:57:767 (118,122) - gleichfarbig machen, entweder du gehst wie bei 03:57:767 (118) - nach voice oder bei 03:58:789 (122) - nach vorheriger pattern bin mir selbst nicht sicher bei dem part, die punkte die du aufgelistet hast kann ich nachvollziehen, aber ich änder sie erstmal nicht. kat war hier für hoher vocal pitch oder snare drum, während don für niedrigen vocal pitch und base drums mapped sind
  32. 32. 04:05:438 (142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - siehe 1. *thonking intensifies*
  33. 33. 04:11:829 (187,207) - siehe 12. ist wieder das gleiche
  34. 34. 04:18:903 (246) - d weil du in der ersten kiai an der stelle 01:57:085 (119) - ebenfalls ein d hast gut aufgepasst, changed
  35. 35. 04:21:630 (272) - d wegen 01:59:812 (141) - ist hier ebenfalls ein d ^
  36. 36. 04:22:738 (279,299) - siehe 12. jo
  37. 37. 04:32:539 (356,357) - siehe 17. meh
  38. 38. 04:41:062 - hier entweder eine note adden wie bei 02:19:244 (295) - oder diese weglassen added don
  39. 39. 04:40:721 (417) - und 02:18:903 (293) - identisch machen ayy
  40. 40. 04:51:971 (475,478,482) - siehe 19. möp
  41. 41. 04:54:443 (496,497) - siehe 20. asdf
  42. 42. 05:03:647 (560) - hier würde ich eher d hinpacken, hast sonst drei mal die selbe pattern hintereinander (triplet)changed, aber nicht für variety sondern für den runtergehenden pitch
  43. 43. 05:04:244 (564,565,566) - könnte man auch variieren wenn du möchtest, hast du im späteren verlauf ja auch gemacht (05:12:426 (620,621,622) - ) hab mich da auch wieder am pitch orientiert
  44. 44. 05:32:710 (699,700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714) - siehe 1.
  45. 45. 05:36:375 (726) - die stört mich irgendwie, das pattern mit der betonung passt nicht wirklich zum song wenn die note k ist. ein vorschlag von mir wäre 05:36:119 (723,724,725,726,727,728,729,730,731) - zu kkddkkkdk zu ändern, aber kannst stattdessen auch was anderes nehmen solange die betonung anders ist als vorher ich schau mal, was ich da machen kann. dein patternvorschlag gefällt mir nicht so, aber ich verstehe warum du das ändern willst
  46. 46. 05:38:164 (738) - D wegen 01:49:073 (59) - und 04:10:892 (181) - sind beides ebenfalls Ds bei den finishern hab ich mich an der melodie insgesamt orientiert, die don finisher passen zu beginn der beiden kiais besser mit dem vocal pitch (vocals sind dominant), hier hab ich mich am letzten piano sound orientiert, welcher einen höheren pitch als die vocals hat (piano ist hier dominant bzw. das einzige instrument neben dem cymbal lol). deswegen lass ich das so


ich hoffe mein (erster) mod ist nicht zu drastisch für dich, hab jetzt eher darauf geachtet struktur und flow möglichst schick zu halten (und die vorherigen mods gekonnt ignoriert). liegt im endeffekt an dir was du änderst und was nicht :)
die meisten deiner punkte waren für mich verständlich, auch wenn ich vieles denied habe. entweder gingen sie gegen das, was ich emphasized habe (vocal) oder besonders die punkte, die sich wiederholt haben, hätten die struktur so umgewälzt, dass sie nicht mehr meinem mapping style entsprechen. versuch in zukunft beim modden darauf zu achten, was der mapper womit emphasized hat und ob es consistent ist oder nicht (muss ich selbst noch lernen). bei einem song der relativ repetitive ist bringt es nichts, großartig viel variation einzubringen (außer es ist ne collab), weswegen die meisten angenommenen punkte für die consistency waren. trotzdem danke für den mod! (gott bin ich mies was wortwahl angeht)

updated and added some tags~
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[ Inner Oni ]

00:21:801 (1) ~ 00:32:369 (24) - There is only k. how about 6d 6k 6d 6k?
00:38:164 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - Um, this isn't great idea... think that you play this with DT. i think just kdkd is better.
00:42:937 (77) - k. no big sound, and KdK is hard to hit than kdK.
00:56:829 (172) - delete?
01:21:119 (317,318,319) - ddd or ddk. In next kkd after this, melody is going up.
01:27:426 (1) , 01:29:983 (1) , 01:32:880 (1) , 01:35:437 (1) - so many spinner. exspecially, i think 01:35:437 (1) this spinner doesn't need.
01:43:619 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - same part 00:38:164
01:48:392 (56) - same part 00:42:937
02:05:437 (181) ~ 02:10:551 (231) - this is my suggestion.
1) not 5 5 5 5, 1 3 1 3 1 3 1 3
2) 02:08:165 (207) ~ 02:10:551 (231) - reverse 02:05:437 (181) ~ 02:07:823 (205)
03:12:596 (629,630) - ctrl g? to extraordinary
03:16:517 (1) , 03:19:074 (1) , 03:21:971 (1) , 03:24:528 (1) - same part 01:27:426
03:32:710 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - same part 00:38:164
04:05:438 (142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - ^
04:10:210 (178) - same part 00:42:937
04:19:073 (247) ~ 04:21:460 (271) - same part 02:05:437
04:42:767 (432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440) - maybe have greater pattern like d d k k d d k d k(or d cause of next K) than kdkd.
04:43:619 (441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452,453,454,455,456) - i think this part is little diffrent with another same part. this part is climax so it looks great that add some notes like note that follow melody.
05:26:574 (680) -delete?
05:32:710 (700,701,702,703,704,705,706,707,708,709,710,711,712,713,714,715) - same part 00:38:164


Song is nice and map too!
really fun to mod xD
Good luck~
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