Firetruck wrote:

where is hard diff lol, miss you is literally insane

+ u should lower the volume of hitsounds its so loud D:

Firetruck wrote:

no u suck nuked lololobxdxddzd

Firetruck wrote:

meme

Firetruck wrote:

meme

Josefumi wrote:

Hello there, commin' from my queue!

Easy:
00:13:513 (1) - If you put the end on 00:16:878 It would be as nice i think there's something about this...
00:19:682 - Maybe a circle in here? the sound isn't really that significant/is more of a background sound
00:57:252 - What about this? <.<

for a slower section it'd probably best to keep a less dense rhythm
01:37:626 (2) - This looks nicer ...but doesn't that break DS?

Missed You
I think putting the stack leniency to 3, it fits much more a e s t h e t i c a l y (Note: Only do changes with "*" if you changed it) completely forgot this was a thing xd
00:19:962 (1,2,3) - Overlap 2 with 3 and put them looking at eachother aight ye
00:21:084 (4,5) - I recommend trying a full slider from 00:21:084 to 00:21:364 but... there's different sounds
* 00:22:485 (1) - Move it under 00:22:204 (10)
* 00:23:046 (2) - Move under 3
00:28:793 (7,8) - Stack together instead of spreading, it's confusing how...?
00:31:036 (6,7) - ^
01:02:579 (5,6) - Stack over 01:02:859 that looks p confusing tbh
* 01:25:289 (1) - Move under 01:24:168 (3)
01:46:317 (3) - Instead of b i g slider try slider retur stream b-but muh vocal

Nice mapset! Good luck
Namjoon stan here o.o/

Behonkiss wrote:

Liked the sound of this song, so here's a mod.

Easy:
00:24:168 (5): Make this a new combo instead of the slider after it. The pause before it calls for that. yeah, I agree
01:03:981 (2): Feels weird that this is the only section to use the default whistle sound effect. It's weird... but it kinda fits too, I guess?

Josefumi wrote:

Lapi's Hard
I recommend putting a lower AR Why? It's already too low.
00:15:756 (1) - Spinner conflics with the next slider, im my opinion is too close and too fast. Pretty sure it's fine, considering the fact that it's a hard difficulty.
00:50:523 - What about this for a slider form? Looks nice, but I want to keep mine.

01:03:981 (5,6,7) - Too cloose with eachother, try to separate them a little bit I'm following DS here.
01:06:504 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part is kinda overmapped, I recommend adjusting a slower pace on 01:07:766 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) I'm following the beats in the background, meaning that these are not overmapped, they're completely fine as long as they follow the beats.
01:23:887 (4,5) - Jump too big, try to avoid these without an excuse I want a proper reason for this. Saying "try to avoid these without an excuse" is kinda of rude.
01:41:831 (2,3) - ^ .
01:49:682 (4,1) - ^!!!! .
01:54:168 (4,1) - ^ .
01:54:448 (1,2) - Not so much of a big gap, but I recommend adjusting it. .
02:01:177 (1) - Missed sample

Behonkiss wrote:

Lapis' Hard:
01:02:859 (1): This new combo placement feels especially weird. There's a downbeat here, and every NC starts at downbeat, so I'm keeping it.

Josefumi wrote:

Firetruck's Normal

01:11:831 (1) - Missed sample (Clap)
01:16:317 (1) - ^
01:18:560 (1) - ^
01:29:775 (1) - ^
01:34:261 (1) - ^
01:36:504 (1) - ^
01:43:233 (1) - ^
01:45:476 (1) - ^
01:52:205 (1) - ^
01:54:448 (1) - ^
01:56:691 (1) - ^
02:01:738 (2) - ^
02:05:102 (3) - ^

cosmiccc wrote:

lapis' hard

00:51:364 - I feel like there should be a circle here bc there's no pause in instrumentals or vocals Sure.
01:06:925 (7,8) - imo this part would work better w/ a circle at 01:06:504, and a two beat slider at 01:06:784. Bc the current rhythm there feels weird to play and kinda off but that could be just me If you listen carefully at 01:06:504, there's a hold in his vocals, and I used a slider here to emphasise that. So I'm keeping this rhythm.
01:38:747 (1) - Random Hitsound? Don't think so.

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TitleUnicode:봄날
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cosmiccc wrote:

missing you

00:13:513 - personally preference, think there should be a spinner here to the downbeat before the first slider alright, yeah
00:17:579 (6) - These 1/4 beats are following the vocals but 6 doesn't belong bc no vocal or prominent sound is hear on that beat what about the "s" sound

1. 00:21:644 (6,7,8,9,10) - Same w/ 9 here but the "sh" sound?

00:20:383 (2) - doesn't represent any sound and is weird playing imo yeah, I'll remove it
00:30:056 (3) - repeat doesn't serve any purpose it goes with the vocal, like na-neun
01:07:766 (2) - unnecessary imo bc there is no sound it represents, and doesn't serve as good filler either but there's an instrument here which is mapped later on as well
02:01:738 (2,3) and 02:05:102 (1,2) represent the vocals but the vocals lose emphasis at 02:02:579 (4,5,1,2,3,4) bc these notes are just following the beat. Kinda breaks the flow imo and u should stick to mapping one or the other it's meant to gradually decrease in spacing to represent the slowing nature of the song, idk it works in my mind...
the spacing in general is a little weird bc sometimes 1/4 beats will be touching but when they aren't touching they look like the 1/2 spacing, so playing isn't always as intuitive as I feel like it should be yeah... i do emphasise a few things with spacing

ok that's all, hope it's helpful & ty for ur mod again thank you!

1. Add a fe w more tags like Bangtan Boys and Bangtans just in case somebody tries to use them.
2. Metadata is correct, as we've already discussed that. link
3. The hitsounds feel really loud in general. Pobably should be 15-30% quiter.

1. 01:20:803 (1,2,3) - this combo definitely stands out in terms of length and consistency. You might want to look into it to make sure it works as intended.
2. 01:36:504 (1,2) - that'd be cool if these two were using identical shapes, sort of like 01:32:018 (1,1) - this way the patterning would feel more structured.
   Note: 01:51:084 (2,4) - again, similar shapes could make the part feel more structured.
3. 01:47:719 - I would really prefer this to be an individual circle. As a matter of fact, 01:46:598 (2) - I would probably just replace each of the beats with a circle, the vocals here feel pretty interesting and so do the drums.
4. 01:49:962 (1) - minor - overlaps with the HP bar, probably should be higher as to prevent that from happening.
   
   Just a few visual things. I actually think it's a pretty cool difficulty.

1. 00:28:373 - shouldn't there be somethimg as both vocals and drums feel pretty powerful. Probably a circle or at least a reverse from the previous slider?
   Note: 00:43:794 - same. Perhaps this, plus, the 3/2 gap feels a bit forced.
2. 00:49:401 (1,2) - I doubt this is spaced intentionally as there is nothing to justify the change and it doesn't look consistent at all.
3. 01:14:074 (1) - splitting it into a 1/1 slider and a circle would match the rhythm better and feel more consistent in general. See 01:16:317 (1,2,3) - for example.
   Note: 01:32:018 (1) - same.
   
   Kind of a shame there's no spinner. But everything else is neat, I like it.

• 
  We've done an IRC check, fixed a number of jumps. The rest was pretty.
  
  IRC log

  16:21 Lapis Aoki: Hana didn't update my diff, sec
  16:21 Lapis Aoki: http://puu.sh/w9wUk.osz
  16:22 Bakari: Okay, let me scan through general stuff
  16:23 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1244096 BTS - Spring Day [Lapis' Hard]]
  16:23 Bakari: 00:15:756 (1,1) - are you sure about having only 1/2 beat of recovery time?
  16:25 Lapis Aoki: I've got some complains about this before. But since this is a hard diff, I thought it was okay.
  16:25 Bakari: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8250624 try something like this
  16:25 Lapis Aoki: I'll remove it, since I can't end it anywhere else-
  16:25 Bakari: oh, okay then
  16:26 Bakari: 00:20:242 (1,2) - 00:29:214 (1,2) - these two feel similar, yet spacing is very different
  16:27 Bakari: I'd probably remove the jump on the first pattern
  16:28 Lapis Aoki: https://puu.sh/w9x7F.jpg
  16:28 Bakari: yeah, it's cool
  16:29 Bakari: 00:39:027 (2,3) - i like the way 2-3 jump feels, but isn't (2) strong as well?
  16:29 Bakari: probably something like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/CYphBtFU.jpg this
  16:32 Lapis Aoki: 00:39:027 - has the same sound as 00:30:056 - and there's no jump in here
  16:32 Lapis Aoki: pretty much like the same point you mentioned
  16:33 Bakari: oh, i see
  16:33 Bakari: 00:47:158 (1,3) - btw, are you sure about this pattern?
  16:33 Bakari: it looks different from the rest of the things
  16:35 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/TpXrnp42.jpg probably something like this?
  16:35 Lapis Aoki: I'm pretty sure it's fine, plus I like the visuals of this pattern
  16:35 Lapis Aoki: but if you have another pattern in mind, then show me some
  16:35 Bakari: it felt like the stack/overlap thingy stood out
  16:36 Lapis Aoki: https://puu.sh/w9xmv.jpg
  16:36 Bakari: yeah, why not
  16:36 Bakari: I'm happy with any kind of pattern that you like \o/
  16:37 Lapis Aoki: Alrighty
  16:37 Bakari: 01:04:822 - the 3/4 thingy feels sort of out of sync and there's definitely vocal here, so, let's add a circle?
  16:38 Bakari: obv, the vocal is alos supported with the drums
  16:40 Bakari: 01:06:224 (5,6) - also, let's try to ctrl+g these two, I have a feeling this would represent the song better
  16:40 Bakari: also, that'd give us one more 1/4 double, and doubles here feel relaly cool
  16:42 Bakari: I guess 01:15:196 (4,5,1) - 01:19:682 (3,4,1) - these are based on vocals and you intentionally don't stress (1), right?
  16:42 Lapis Aoki: https://puu.sh/w9xA3.jpg
  16:43 Lapis Aoki: also about the previous point
  16:43 Lapis Aoki: http://puu.sh/w9xB3.jpg
  16:43 Bakari: looks sweet
  16:44 Bakari: 01:29:775 (1,2,3) - what about this jump, though. it feels sort of like the first one that we've nerfed
  16:45 Bakari: the rest is okay, it's just a few things about the jumps
  16:45 Lapis Aoki: How about this one then? https://puu.sh/w9xE9.jpg
  16:45 Bakari: (3) has some vocals going on and feels pretty valueable, I can see that pattern working, sure
  16:46 Lapis Aoki: Yep, (1) (2) has some high notes, then (3) has soft vocals
  16:48 Bakari: so yeah, just check it once again to make sure everything works as you intended it after the changes
  16:49 Lapis Aoki: Alright

• 
  We did a few things, changed some patterns to flow and look better.
  
  IRC log

  20:12 Tae: touch my butt~
  20:12 Bakari: sure <3
  20:12 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1226410 BTS - Spring Day [Missing You]]
  20:14 Bakari: 00:22:204 (9,1,2,3) - can you explain why the spacing gradually increases here?
  20:15 Bakari: I'd rather go for 9-1 being a strong jump
  20:15 Bakari: then 1-2 being a jump but less intense
  20:15 Tae: yeah, igy
  20:15 Bakari: and then regular ds to match the instruments
  20:15 Tae: ah, yeah
  20:16 Bakari: oh, and are you sure about the intro being so heavy in terms of 1/4s?
  20:17 Bakari: I'd probably use more sliders than circles for the sake of spread
  20:17 Bakari: besides, kiai feels pretty easy when compared with the intro
  20:18 Tae: yeah
  20:18 Tae: im willing to tone it down on the 1/4 in some areas, but I feel it fits in other areas
  20:18 Bakari: it definitely works well with the rapping
  20:18 Tae: 00:24:168 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - for example, i'd be happy to put some more sliders here
  20:18 Bakari: yeah, that's the kind of stuff that'd benefit from having more sliders
  20:19 Bakari: also, the 1/4 spacing at times is pretty hard to read
  20:19 Bakari: and spacing in general as well
  20:19 Bakari: 00:19:962 (1,2,3) - for example the change here
  20:20 Tae: yeah
  20:20 Tae: ah, if 1 goes down, and 2 goes up, that could work better?
  20:20 Bakari: my main concern is patterns like 00:45:336 (3,4,5) - 00:49:822 (3,4,5,6) -
  20:21 Bakari: anything goes, as long as you feel like a player can understand and feel the spacing changes
  20:21 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9FZa/30a530bd10.png like this, for example?
  20:21 Bakari: yeah, this looks great
  20:22 Bakari: 00:52:205 (4,5) - 00:53:186 (9,10) - 00:58:373 (1,2) - have a look at these things
  20:22 Bakari: 00:58:373 (1,2) - 00:59:495 (4,5,6) - or maybe at these, this is a more noticeable contrast
  20:22 Tae: yeah
  20:22 Bakari: i see tha you try to do cool stuff with the spacings
  20:22 Tae: the first should definitely be more spaced than the second
  20:23 Bakari: probably you could play with the stacks as well
  20:23 Bakari: but keep in mind that stacks should also be consistent
  20:23 Tae: yeah
  20:25 Bakari: in terms of rhythm this whole thing is pretty good, by the way
  20:25 Bakari: but i'm not so sure about your flow
  20:25 Tae: that's good to know
  20:25 Bakari: 00:40:570 (2,3,4,5) - this seems to be linear flow, but then it suddenly breaks
  20:25 Tae: yeah, i do struggle with flow above everything else
  20:26 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/GV50RsqS.jpg
  20:26 Bakari: probably something of the kind?
  20:26 Tae: yeah, that looks better if 4/5 is flipped
  20:28 Bakari: 00:36:504 (2,3,4) - this isn't a bad pattern, but your flow appears to be mostly linear.
  20:28 Bakari: so, it sort of stands out
  20:29 Bakari: probably something closer to this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/3isJjeGc.jpg
  20:29 Bakari: or if you like the existing pattern, introduce something similar in a few more parts
  20:30 Tae: yeah
  20:30 Bakari: 01:06:784 (7,8,1) - i don't feel this pattern in the song, let me explain why
  20:31 Bakari: a) (1) is stressed less than (8), which is quite strange considering the fact that (1) is actually stronger
  20:32 Bakari: b) the pattern on its own is sort of unfinished, there's a lot of empty space and it just feels somewhat random
  20:33 Tae: hm, yeah
  20:33 Bakari: if we could use spacing more freely, sometihng like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/1GFse1sv.jpg this would be perfect
  20:33 Tae: o, that looks good
  20:33 Tae: lemme try that
  20:33 Bakari: i personally think that the pattern i showed looks better because it has a finished idea
  20:34 Bakari: i make 7-8 symmetrical
  20:34 Bakari: and keep the flow somewhat linear
  20:34 Bakari: probably we could try a ner'd version like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/2KdI3k55.jpg this
  20:36 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9GzQ/dbf68052b0.png yeah, I think I managed to do it, that flows well, thanks
  20:37 Bakari: just introduce a few more patterns like this (spacing/flow)
  20:37 Bakari: so it'd feel like a part of your style, rather than a single fix
  20:38 Tae: yeah
  20:38 Bakari: 01:24:728 (4,1) - this doesn't really flow, I think
  20:38 Bakari: i mean, it does, but it works differently than the rest of the patterns
  20:38 Bakari: there's a pretty sharp angle between 4 and 1
  20:38 Tae: ctrl+g on 4, maybe?
  20:38 Bakari: then 3-4 goes weird :p
  20:39 Tae: hm
  20:40 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/0tCkHjxk.jpg 120 degrees rotation, perhaps?
  20:41 Bakari: and the rest would look like this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/S4Vejz2a.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:29:214 (4,1,2,3) - similar pattern/flow thingy https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/dOnSi1vW.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:35:943 (5,1) - and this'd be the last one, i believe
  20:46 Tae: alright, fixed those now
  20:46 Bakari: I guess that's about it
  20:46 Bakari: just the spacings/flow

Bakari wrote:

Hey!

[General]

1. Add a fe w more tags like Bangtan Boys and Bangtans just in case somebody tries to use them. yep, added a few more tags as mentioned... im not too sure about "Bangtans" though...?
2. Metadata is correct, as we've already discussed that. link
3. The hitsounds feel really loud in general. Pobably should be 15-30% quiter. I believe I adjusted this before we had our irc discussion

[Easy]

1. 01:20:803 (1,2,3) - this combo definitely stands out in terms of length and consistency. You might want to look into it to make sure it works as intended. aa, fixed the ncs
2. 01:36:504 (1,2) - that'd be cool if these two were using identical shapes, sort of like 01:32:018 (1,1) - this way the patterning would feel more structured. yup
   Note: 01:51:084 (2,4) - again, similar shapes could make the part feel more structured. think these are more similar
3. 01:47:719 - I would really prefer this to be an individual circle. alright. As a matter of fact, 01:46:598 (2) - I would probably just replace each of the beats with a circle, the vocals here feel pretty interesting and so do the drums. hm... I think the vocal itself calls for a slider as it's a continuous sound
4. 01:49:962 (1) - minor - overlaps with the HP bar, probably should be higher as to prevent that from happening. adjusted because of the issue above
   
   Just a few visual things. I actually think it's a pretty cool difficulty.

[Missing You]

• 
  We did a few things, changed some patterns to flow and look better. should be better now
  
  IRC log

  20:12 Tae: touch my butt~
  20:12 Bakari: sure <3
  20:12 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1226410 BTS - Spring Day [Missing You]]
  20:14 Bakari: 00:22:204 (9,1,2,3) - can you explain why the spacing gradually increases here?
  20:15 Bakari: I'd rather go for 9-1 being a strong jump
  20:15 Bakari: then 1-2 being a jump but less intense
  20:15 Tae: yeah, igy
  20:15 Bakari: and then regular ds to match the instruments
  20:15 Tae: ah, yeah
  20:16 Bakari: oh, and are you sure about the intro being so heavy in terms of 1/4s?
  20:17 Bakari: I'd probably use more sliders than circles for the sake of spread
  20:17 Bakari: besides, kiai feels pretty easy when compared with the intro
  20:18 Tae: yeah
  20:18 Tae: im willing to tone it down on the 1/4 in some areas, but I feel it fits in other areas
  20:18 Bakari: it definitely works well with the rapping
  20:18 Tae: 00:24:168 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - for example, i'd be happy to put some more sliders here
  20:18 Bakari: yeah, that's the kind of stuff that'd benefit from having more sliders
  20:19 Bakari: also, the 1/4 spacing at times is pretty hard to read
  20:19 Bakari: and spacing in general as well
  20:19 Bakari: 00:19:962 (1,2,3) - for example the change here
  20:20 Tae: yeah
  20:20 Tae: ah, if 1 goes down, and 2 goes up, that could work better?
  20:20 Bakari: my main concern is patterns like 00:45:336 (3,4,5) - 00:49:822 (3,4,5,6) -
  20:21 Bakari: anything goes, as long as you feel like a player can understand and feel the spacing changes
  20:21 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9FZa/30a530bd10.png like this, for example?
  20:21 Bakari: yeah, this looks great
  20:22 Bakari: 00:52:205 (4,5) - 00:53:186 (9,10) - 00:58:373 (1,2) - have a look at these things
  20:22 Bakari: 00:58:373 (1,2) - 00:59:495 (4,5,6) - or maybe at these, this is a more noticeable contrast
  20:22 Tae: yeah
  20:22 Bakari: i see tha you try to do cool stuff with the spacings
  20:22 Tae: the first should definitely be more spaced than the second
  20:23 Bakari: probably you could play with the stacks as well
  20:23 Bakari: but keep in mind that stacks should also be consistent
  20:23 Tae: yeah
  20:25 Bakari: in terms of rhythm this whole thing is pretty good, by the way
  20:25 Bakari: but i'm not so sure about your flow
  20:25 Tae: that's good to know
  20:25 Bakari: 00:40:570 (2,3,4,5) - this seems to be linear flow, but then it suddenly breaks
  20:25 Tae: yeah, i do struggle with flow above everything else
  20:26 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/GV50RsqS.jpg
  20:26 Bakari: probably something of the kind?
  20:26 Tae: yeah, that looks better if 4/5 is flipped
  20:28 Bakari: 00:36:504 (2,3,4) - this isn't a bad pattern, but your flow appears to be mostly linear.
  20:28 Bakari: so, it sort of stands out
  20:29 Bakari: probably something closer to this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/3isJjeGc.jpg
  20:29 Bakari: or if you like the existing pattern, introduce something similar in a few more parts
  20:30 Tae: yeah
  20:30 Bakari: 01:06:784 (7,8,1) - i don't feel this pattern in the song, let me explain why
  20:31 Bakari: a) (1) is stressed less than (8), which is quite strange considering the fact that (1) is actually stronger
  20:32 Bakari: b) the pattern on its own is sort of unfinished, there's a lot of empty space and it just feels somewhat random
  20:33 Tae: hm, yeah
  20:33 Bakari: if we could use spacing more freely, sometihng like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/1GFse1sv.jpg this would be perfect
  20:33 Tae: o, that looks good
  20:33 Tae: lemme try that
  20:33 Bakari: i personally think that the pattern i showed looks better because it has a finished idea
  20:34 Bakari: i make 7-8 symmetrical
  20:34 Bakari: and keep the flow somewhat linear
  20:34 Bakari: probably we could try a ner'd version like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/2KdI3k55.jpg this
  20:36 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9GzQ/dbf68052b0.png yeah, I think I managed to do it, that flows well, thanks
  20:37 Bakari: just introduce a few more patterns like this (spacing/flow)
  20:37 Bakari: so it'd feel like a part of your style, rather than a single fix
  20:38 Tae: yeah
  20:38 Bakari: 01:24:728 (4,1) - this doesn't really flow, I think
  20:38 Bakari: i mean, it does, but it works differently than the rest of the patterns
  20:38 Bakari: there's a pretty sharp angle between 4 and 1
  20:38 Tae: ctrl+g on 4, maybe?
  20:38 Bakari: then 3-4 goes weird :p
  20:39 Tae: hm
  20:40 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/0tCkHjxk.jpg 120 degrees rotation, perhaps?
  20:41 Bakari: and the rest would look like this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/S4Vejz2a.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:29:214 (4,1,2,3) - similar pattern/flow thingy https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/dOnSi1vW.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:35:943 (5,1) - and this'd be the last one, i believe
  20:46 Tae: alright, fixed those now
  20:46 Bakari: I guess that's about it
  20:46 Bakari: just the spacings/flow

I feel like the set is pretty cool, but it definitely can and should get better before we push it any further. Remind me to stick around and get back to it some time later Will do!

- Frontier - wrote:

Hmm... You may add "防弾少年団" in tags because it's an japanese name for bts.

Lapis Aoki wrote:

Why add the Japanese name, though?

- Frontier - wrote:

Hmm... You may add "防弾少年団" in tags because it's an japanese name for bts.

FiddleBlue wrote:

Hello from my queue!
Normally I don't enjoy K-pop, but BTS is an exception. Especially this one.

General

1. Maybe you can make a new kiai section on these parts to emphasize them: 01:29:775 - and 01:47:719 - . yeah that sounds fine
2. 02:05:383 - I think the kiai should stop here instead as the music mostly stops here. i think it's fine as is, goes with the fading out as well :thinking:

Spring Day

1. 00:25:570 (3) - I think this should be a 1/4 slider with no repetition instead, as it supports the vocal more as there's no vocal on 00:25:850 - . You seem to be following the vocal more so I don't see why you wouldn't here. Also, players/modders might think that it's the same to 00:25:009 (2) - where it doesn't. ye, igy
2. 00:30:056 (3) - Perhaps making this the same as 00:27:813 (3,4,5,6) - as they sound similar. did it the other way round but ssh
3. 00:34:541 (5,1) - Players might mistook these for a 1/4 snapping instead of a beat snap. Perhaps put some spacing between them? I did intend for it to be like this but I can change it if others have an issue with it
4. 00:40:429 (1,2,3,4,5) - Instead of this how about doing this instead to emphasize the style of the vocal (idk what to call it) instead as the repeating 1/2 sliders kinda downgrade that part: https://gyazo.com/f4986d91834a9c72237d37de98d58f8b i think my version follows it pretty closely, but thanks for the suggestion
5. 01:37:345 (3,4) - I think the spacing is a bit too far here. fixed

Sorry if the mod is short. I have problem modding normal and easy.
Good luck with your mapset!

FiddleBlue wrote:

1. 01:47:719 - Why is the hitsound volume 5%?

FiddleBlue wrote:

Lapis' Hard

1. 01:10:710 (3,4) - I think a 1/8 repeating sliders is a bit too hard for an advance difficulty. There're beats on 1/8 ticks. Besides, 1/8 are fine in hard difficulties.
2. 01:47:719 - Why is the hitsound volume 5%? It's not 5%..?