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Reol - Logic Agent

posted 2017-02-26T23:42:19+00:00

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polka

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-03-22T19:09:10+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
[Polka's Hard]

red timing points aren't consistent with rest of the maps theres only one what

on the new RC its a guideline for 1/2 stacks in Hard Maps to not perfect stack, but to stack normally. you could lowkey circumvent this by asking nao to call his advanced a hard and to call this diff a light insane 👀 what

00:22:033 (1,2) - kinda of an ugly transition between these, don't really like the overlap Nowhere else to put it.
00:32:060 (8,1) - would stack these tbh, makes it easier to read these as 1/4, esp since this is the first 1/4 in the map I disagree, it might look like 1/2 snap.
00:42:717 - Should be clickable imo, same with 00:43:981, to better follow the rhythm of the music. high pitched sound in the melody here so it's worth following. Following drums sorry
00:57:717 (2) - split this into circle and 1/2 slider so that you can map the vocal on 00:57:875 - following instruments
01:16:823 - why nothing here fixed.
02:16:033 (2,4) - stack these? Doesn't look good off of the circle curve slider for me.
03:02:296 (5,1) - stack? fixed.

clean map. Maybe you could consider NCing twice as often as some of the combos get kinda long / into the double digits, but it's alright as is as well. I was going to break the combos in half where they hit the double digits but some manwhores might come in and whine about inconsistent comboing. So it'll stay for now.

I'd mod the rest but im lazy and I don't like the song too much, so maybe I'll come back and mod the harder diffs later. Good luck!

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 73428
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 16981,27086,37033,47139,57244,67507,74928,77454,97665,102718,107770,118033,125454,140297,158454,198875,212770
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:Logic Agent
TitleUnicode:ロジックエージェント
Artist:niki feat Reol
ArtistUnicode:niki feat れをる
Creator:Nao Tomori
Version:Polka's Hard
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:1246712
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5.4
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"girl_anime_rain_glass_light_schoolgirl_102497_1366x768.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,72760,74178
2,97865,101967
2,123286,124704
2,158654,160862
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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[Colours]
Combo1 : 236,220,104
Combo2 : 230,148,87
Combo3 : 77,77,77
Combo4 : 83,89,134

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Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-03-22T19:19:04+00:00

Hi. I'm a masochist!

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General]

You have inconsistent timing, tags, and creator throughout your set. Double check them.
Combo colors on the Easy amd Normal aren't set, is that intentional?
Advanced has dupe timing points at 01:14:928, Normal at 02:07:981,
Only OD 8.3 on 5* :thinking:

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Lost Memory]

02:47:769 (6) - Unsnapped slider end.
00:08:139 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern flows differently from all the other ones for some reason. The others have flow parallel to the slider it starts from yet this one is perpendicular.
00:15:718 (1,2) - Could be cool to actually stack these cuz you get emphasis and lower spacing, which is what you seem to want here.
00:28:033 (4) - Nice stack lol.
00:36:560 (2) - This skips all the stuff going on on the white tick: vocals, the woosh sound, and the drums, and lands on a blue with nothing on it. ._. I would make a kickslider on the white but that's personal preference, the thing that bugs me is you basically skip a strong lead-in beat I guess to emphasize the next red tick? You can do that in other ways and still keeping the white clickable or at least on a slider end.
01:00:244 (2,3,4) - I think ctrl+g this rhythm would make more of the guitar clickable and would play more fun tbh.
01:17:297 (4,5,1) - I think stacking this would give more emphasis. The way it plays now is too flowy imo, and the sound is really strong so some harsher emphasis is justified.
01:23:139 (4) - This could be two 1/2 sliders. I'm not really sure why it's 1/1 in the first place really. Vocal starts on the head and starts on the end and you skip a drum in the middle but nowhere else do you ever do this. You seem to be fine with mapping 1/1 vocals as 1/2 sliders at 01:21:244 (1,2,3,4) - anyways.
01:33:718 (4,1) - Ctrl+G'ing this would make more of the vocals clickable and generally feels better to play - unless you're following drums.
01:46:981 (3) - Could use an NC since this slowdown is pretty unexpected. At least it was to me. Especially considering there's a spaced 1/4 gap from the slider end, could be easier to read if NC'd.
01:49:981 (4) - Could be two circles for vocals while 01:49:191 (1) - could be two circles for guitar. Either works for more click emphasis on the sounds you might be mapping to.
01:51:086 (3) - For guitar could also be two circles. Same for 01:52:191 (1) - unless you want to map this vocal, which tbh doesn't really transition too well since you map vocals only with this slider then follow drums and guitar again after.
01:52:823 (4) - Pretty strong note to not NC. It marks the halfway point of the section if you look at the bookmarks you put and that note is usually very strong.
01:55:823 (2) - Mapping this kick on a slider end is kind if weird considering all the other important drum sounds in this combo are clickable. It also creates ambiguity as to what you're following since it could be either drums or guitar.
02:00:560 (4) - Strong note with no emphasis or even an NC. Just a slight spacing increase would work.
02:14:928 (3,4) - Could make this a slightly curved vertical slider so that click emphasis on vocals is better on 02:15:244 (5,6). Since 3 and 4 don't have distinct sounds (only 3 starts on vocal and 4 doesn't have anything important on it) I don't really think they should be mapped as circles, while 5 and 6 do have distinct vocals yet don't have much click emphasis.
02:27:244 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This is really sharp and uncomfortable for only a drumroll. In other places you didn't map it with such a high amount of uncomfortable flow, so maybe make this a bit more comfortable? Just a bit.
02:45:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Sudden spacing increase? I mean the vocals come in sure but they do at many other times in the map and you don't increase spacing like this. I think this stream should just be constant DS.

[

PAN's Insane]

00:37:823 (4,5,1) - This flow is very harsh compared to the rest of the downbeat emphasis you use at 00:39:087 (4,5,1) - 00:40:349 (4,5,1) - 00:41:612 (4,5,1) - etc etc. Not sure how to go about suggesting a fix since this pattern is pretty core to your local structure lol.
00:53:770 (2,3,4,5,6) - You don't use any patterning like this anywhere else, and these seem to be mapped to the same sounds as other more simple patterns such as 00:50:139 (2,3,4,5) -
01:01:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - The guitar is doing a much more interesting rhythm here but you chose to ignore it for the same vocals that have been playing for the last 20 seconds. ._.
01:30:560 (2) - This note seems too much part of the vocals when it's just a breath in. What would make more sense to me is if it were at the end of 01:30:086 (1) - like this since then the rest of the spoken vocals get more emphasis and distinction. 01:35:612 (2) - Pretty much same with this: note isn't spoken yet is given the same emphasis as all spoken notes in this jump pattern. Applies to other kiais too.
01:33:876 (5,1) - Ctrl+G this rhythm would follow vocals much better, and since you were content with skipping drums for 01:31:981 (3) - and similar, it would still be rhythmically consistent imo. The rhythm of the rest of the patterning around it seems to follow vocals heavily too, and this one not doing so as well stands out too much.
01:54:560 (2,1) - Blanket. ._.
02:51:086 (1) - This sound uhh.. the electric thingy, starts on 02:51:244 - actually, not on 02:51:086. Starting on the vocals and not following them feels very weird.

[

Advanced]

First off the DS is so close that it create REALLY close overlaps that are like barely there but it's super triggering can you like icrease DS slightly by 0.1x in the slow parts?

00:29:612 (4) - Shouldn't this be NC? :thinking:
01:01:981 (4) - Could be two circles for the snares.
01:03:244 (3) - This could be two circles like you did for 01:04:507 (3,4) - since the click emphasis would be a bit better with the second one.
01:25:823 (3,1,2) - Could be more visually consistent in spacing.
01:34:823 (4) - Also would probably be cooler as two circles cuz there are distinct sounds there.
01:35:770 (3,4) - Ctrl+G'ing this makes more sense to me actually since the reverse has more of the same type of vocal on it... uh.. you know what I mean? It's really hard to explain. x.x
01:46:665 (2,3) - Since the 3 is a bit stronger it could be 1/2 slider + circle into the next slider if you want. Just for that extra click emphasis.
01:49:033 - This not being mapped sounds weird because the whole previous combo followed the vocals pretty strictly.
02:13:033 (1) - Uhhhh?? Shouldn't this end on red?
02:30:244 (3) - Pls Slayed wave. :c
02:51:086 (1) - Like PAN's diff, it sounds better if it starts on the next red.
03:13:191 (3,4) - Blanket. ;-;

Good luck!

Last edited by Mir 2017-03-22T19:50:56+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-03-22T19:43:36+00:00

meep

00:46:349 (2) - Why not ctrl+G this? the circular flow from the previous slider would be completely disrupted if you were to let it start from below --- i want the flow break here to show transition out of that section

02:19:823 (2,3,4) - what happened to the flow? o-o i use a similar pattern in the other kiais as well, don't think this one is that bad.

will rework 2nd kiai a bit to make flow more rotational like other parts.

Cerberus Roze wrote:
[Lost Memory]

Hai

00:06:876 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern here thats repeated through the intro i feel you did it back to front, i feel every white tick that has that strong drum sound and thumping drum sound should have a slider and everything else should be just a circle, its awkward just having 1/1 notes there
i feel filling out the map more adds a lot and makes it less boring, and if your trying to undermap because the song is "calm" i guess i dont think that really works because its really awkward, heres an example of how i think the rhythm could be mapped better if you are unsure on what i mean
example

00:27:402 (3) - also here, more awkward pauses, such a good spot to add a slider to fill out the map till the next beat or what ever you are mapping to

00:32:297 (2) - this note ends on a strong beat? its confusing what your mapping to here so idk LOL
those sliders are on guitar notes.

00:47:612 (3) - after every white tick here add slider for better feel (to fill it out really) then maybe stack the circles untill this point 00:51:718 (1) - and make jumps for that, mainly to make it stand out because its different to the rest of that section

00:57:718 (2) - theres a few spots like this where you dont have a slider on strong sound, im assuming your trying to prioritize the guitar here too? either way make sure you put a slider to put emphasis on whats being mapped because i cant tell 00:57:876 (3) - is on a vocal

01:17:454 - in the chorus there are a lot of sliders ending on strong notes and circles where sliders should be, i think you should prioritize the drums then when it fits do an extra long slider or stack or something to put emphasis on vocals. to me atleast it seems like your putting vocals first which is fine it works but maybe another way is better nah i'd prefer following vocals in kiai to make it different from the drum focused other parts.

the intro rhythms are purely drum focused trying to create contrast between 1/2 and 1/1 spacing. adding in filler slider ends is not gonna help with that idea.

;o nice song and map good luck! hope i was helpful owo

also quick question, mind if i do a GD? i like this song o.o, will probably be 5.5-6* max if your ok with that, i understand if your not interested ;p

thanks for modding. i'm not looking for more GDs because i want my map to be the highest diff in the set. i also don't think this song supports higher difficulties very well.

Hobbes2 wrote:
NM = no mod, so there is no mod here sorry

dont forget to not kds this lol

[General]

Fix tags
do hitsounds

ya

[Collab Normal]

combo colors. Also, go through and be consistent with your NCs. I mentioned specifically complicated ones (I guess), but you should really be consistent with how often you put your NCs. Right now it varies between every two measure and every measure all over the place.

00:19:033 (4,2) - this kind of overlap is pretty poo for a normal. Fixing this requires moving stuff around but I think you should.
00:21:876 (1) - NC should be on 00:22:033 (2) - instead
00:23:139 (1) - Remove NC and move it to 00:24:086 (3) - to be consistent with your NC every 2 measures pattern
00:24:086 (3) - For rhythm purposes I'd shorten this to a 1/1 slider and make 00:24:560 - clickable. If you apply the above NC suggestion, put the NC on 00:24:560 - instead.
00:46:665 (3,1,2) - Eh..would prefer if you stack 2 under 3's tail it's my style
01:00:402 - shouldnt really be clickable compared to 01:00:244, which is the more important guitar sound and drum.
01:06:876 (5,2) - Yucky overlap it's my style
01:11:139 - Circle for vocal? not that important imo and also not my part
01:10:033 (1,2) - If you try to blanket these it would look way better. Note that if you apply the above it would affect this entirely because of DS
01:23:297 (2) - Don't like this, cuts over a strong vocal on 01:24:086 - and forces you to skip another vocal on 01:24:402 -
01:27:560 (1) - Hm...Jumps in normals are okay I guess but this one's kinda bad because it makes the 3/2 gap harder to read.
01:50:139 (5) - More appropriate rhythm would be 1/2 slider into 1/1 slider on 01:50:454. 01:51:086 - can be a circle then, and you'd still be following vocals while making sure the right sounds are emphasized.
02:00:559 (1) - Shorten to the red tick, then add a 1/1 slider on 02:01:349 to capture the vocals better. think this one sounds fine
02:07:981 - no kiai? ?

Hard to mod this because the rhythm selections felt kinda random. Sometimes you guys would map vocals, sometimes ignore strong vocals, I couldn't tell when you'd do which and why. Maybe it's because a collab? idk. Feel like you guys could go through and be more consistent with that.
yeah i'll go through and make it a bit more consistent, definitely agree
[Advanced]

There's a big flaw in this openings' aesthetics (and I guess for the other slow parts too), and it's that because of the DS you chose, 1/2 gaps sometimes touch and sometimes do not. Example would be 00:27:086 (2,3) - vs 00:28:033 (4,1). This is actually really noticeable, and the easiest way to fix this is to either raise or decrease the DS by like .05.

Also, clean up your combos

00:41:297 (2,3,4,1) - Make a square, so that 00:41:297 (2,1) - aren't so close to touching.
00:42:718 - high pitched sound in the melody here makes me think it should be clickable. You could convert 00:42:560 (2) - to two circles. Same for 00:43:981 -
01:01:191 - new guitar introduced, so I suggest making this clickable vocals focused, ignored everything else.
01:33:560 (3) - i was memeing about the "ah ah" thing in my shitmod but here i actually do think they should be clickable
01:36:876 (2,3,4) - equal distance between 2, 3's head, and 4 for aesthetics
01:57:402 (1,2,3) - The new slow section hasn't even started yet, so don't reduce the DS yet
01:58:033 (3) - NC
02:48:402 (2) - ctrl+right once to make the stack look better (so its +4,+4 instead of +3,+4)

on the new RC its a guideline for 1/2 stacks in Hard Maps to not perfect stack, but to stack normally. you could lowkey circumvent this by asking nao to call his advanced a hard and to call this diff a light insane 👀im renaming this spread into cup salad plattern rain overdose deluge of memories anyway x d

I'd mod the rest but im lazy and I don't like the song too much, so maybe I'll come back and mod the harder diffs later. Good luck!

thanks for the actual mod, helpful.

Mir wrote:
Hi. I'm a masochist!

[ General]
You have inconsistent timing, tags, and creator throughout your set. Double check them. it's my style

Combo colors on the Easy amd Normal aren't set, is that intentional? it's my style

Advanced has dupe timing points at 01:14:928, Normal at 02:07:981, it's my style

Only OD 8.3 on 5* :thinking: it's my style

[ Lost Memory]
02:47:769 (6) - Unsnapped slider end. it's my style

00:08:139 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern flows differently from all the other ones for some reason. The others have flow parallel to the slider it starts from yet this one is perpendicular. it's my style

00:15:718 (1,2) - Could be cool to actually stack these cuz you get emphasis and lower spacing, which is what you seem to want here. it's my style

00:28:033 (4) - Nice stack lol. it's my style

00:36:560 (2) - This skips all the stuff going on on the white tick: vocals, the woosh sound, and the drums, and lands on a blue with noting on it. ._. I would make a kickslider on the white but that's personal preference, the thing that bugs me is you basically skip a strong lead-in beat I guess to emphasize the next red tick? You can do that in other ways and still keeping the white clickable or at least on a slider end. it's my style

01:00:244 (2,3,4) - I think ctrl+g this rhythm would make more of the guitar clickable and would play more fun tbh. it's my style

01:17:297 (4,5,1) - I think stacking this would give more emphasis. The way it plays now is too flowy imo, and the sound is really strong so some harsher emphasis is justified. it's my style

01:23:139 (4) - This could be two 1/2 sliders. I'm not really sure why it's 1/1 in the first place really. Vocal starts on the head and starts on the end and you skip a drum in the middle but nowhere else do you ever do this. You seem to be fine with mapping 1/1 vocals as 1/2 sliders at 01:21:244 (1,2,3,4) - anyways. it's my style

01:33:718 (4,1) - Ctrl+G'ing this would make more of the vocals clickable and generally feels better to play - unless you're following drums. it's my style

01:46:981 (3) - Could use an NC since this slowdown is pretty unexpected. At least it was to me. Especially considering there's a spaced 1/4 gap from the slider end, could be easier to read if NC'd. it's my style 00:56:454 (3) -

01:49:981 (4) - Could be two circles for vocals while 01:49:191 (1) - could be two circles for guitar. Either works for more click emphasis on the sounds you might be mapping to. it's my style

01:51:086 (3) - For guitar could also be two circles. Same for 01:52:191 (1) - unless you want to map this vocal, which tbh doesn't really transition too well since you map vocals only with this slider then follow drums and guitar again after. it's my style

01:52:823 (4) - Pretty strong note to not NC. It marks the halfway point of the section if you look at the bookmarks you put and that note is usually very strong. it's my style

01:55:823 (2) - Mapping this kick on a slider end is kind if weird considering all the other important drum sounds in this combo are clickable. It also creates ambiguity as to what you're following since it could be either drums or guitar. it's my style

02:00:560 (4) - Strong note with no emphasis or even an NC. Just a slight spacing increase would work. it's my style

02:14:928 (3,4) - Could make this a slightly curved vertical slider so that click emphasis on vocals is better on 02:15:244 (5,6). Since 3 and 4 don't have distinct sounds (only 3 starts on vocal and 4 doesn't have anything important on it) I don't really think they should be mapped as circles, while 5 and 6 do have distinct vocals yet don't have much click emphasis. it's my style

02:27:244 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This is really sharp and uncomfortable for only a drumroll. In other places you didn't map it with such a high amount of uncomfortable flow, so maybe make this a bit more comfortable? Just a bit. it's my style

02:45:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Sudden spacing increase? I mean the vocals come in sure but they do at many other times in the map and you don't increase spacing like this. I think this stream should just be constant DS. it's my style

[ Advanced]

First off the DS is so close that it create REALLY close overlaps that are like barely there but it's super triggering can you like icrease DS slightly by 0.1x in the slow parts?
00:29:612 (4) - Shouldn't this be NC? :thinking: it's my style

01:01:981 (4) - Could be two circles for the snares. it's my style

01:03:244 (3) - This could be two circles like you did for 01:04:507 (3,4) - since the click emphasis would be a bit better with the second one. it's my style

01:25:823 (3,1,2) - Could be more visually consistent in spacing. it's my style

01:34:823 (4) - Also would probably be cooler as two circles cuz there are distinct sounds there. it's my style

01:35:770 (3,4) - Ctrl+G'ing this makes more sense to me actually since the reverse has more of the same type of vocal on it... uh.. you know what I mean? It's really hard to explain. x.x it's my style

01:46:665 (2,3) - Since the 3 is a bit stronger it could be 1/2 slider + circle into the next slider if you want. Just for that extra click emphasis. it's my style

01:49:033 - This not being mapped sounds weird because the whole previous combo followed the vocals pretty strictly. it's my style

02:13:033 (1) - Uhhhh?? Shouldn't this end on red? it's my style

02:30:244 (3) - Pls Slayed wave. :c it's my style

02:51:086 (1) - Like PAN's diff, it sounds better if it starts on the next red. it's my style

03:13:191 (3,4) - Blanket. ;-; it's my style

Good luck!

very subjective mod tbh, i hope in future attempts you can look to mapper's reasoning rather than just your own

Voli

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Voli 2017-03-22T21:00:59+00:00

[General]

Why are so many of the strongest beats on red ticks? Is it the song fuckin with the downbeat or idk cuz this just seems weird on red ticks 02:43:506 - 02:44:769 - etc.
Offset on Hard seems fucked, adjust it according to the rest of the diffs

[Akitoshi's Easy]

00:08:139 (3) - maybe make this two sliders aswell to match consistency with 00:10:665 (3,4) - (right now that is the only one using two sliders)
00:20:454 (2) - Why not an extended slider until 00:21:402 - to match this hold vocal? Can easily be done imo
00:25:507 (2) - ^
01:19:981 (1,2,3) - https://voli.s-ul.eu/lgDIUjvF.png how about arranging the pattern like this gives it a nice triangular structure and makes 01:19:981 (1) - flow more naturally into 01:20:770 (2) -
02:28:823 (2,3,1) - it's kinda a bummer that 02:28:191 (1) - doesnt match those 120 rotates, can't you find a way to make it match this 02:28:981 (2,1) - pattern?
02:43:507 - hmm why didn't you start mapping here? seems more logical because the transition from calmer part happens here rather than 02:45:876 -
02:46:665 (2,3,1) - imo a rhythm like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/KeXjHpvd.png reflects this part better because the strongest vocal on 02:46:981 - will be clickable and this beat here 02:47:297 - won't be skipped over.
03:19:033 (1) - perhaps silence this spinner end, its quite a loud sound on a fadeout.

[Collab Normal]

00:19:507 (1) - hm maybe dont use a curved here, theyre kinda overused here already so straight slider would add some variety
00:27:086 (1) - why aren't the 1/4 mapped here 00:30:876 (4,5) - but here they are?
00:35:928 (4,5) - ye i dont like blanket mods but this 1 is too obv \o/
00:46:665 (3) - reverse? the skipped beat here sounds a bit off
00:47:139 (1,2,3) - eh these aesthetics tho, either remove curve from 00:47:139 (1) - or 00:48:402 (3) - , this doesnt look nice unless you rotate 00:48:402 (3) - by like 45 degrees and adjust 00:49:033 (4) - accordingly
00:56:139 (4) - if you insist on using another curved slider here at least make it the same as 00:55:191 (2) - (tho i'd suggest just not using a curved, a bit of variety doesnt hurt and there are so many damn curved sliders in this diff already lmao)
01:11:297 (2,3) - stack these properly
01:14:928 (1,2,3) - if you could find a way to center this symmetrical pattern it would look tons better
01:22:507 (1) - make this slider parallel to 01:21:244 (3) - ? https://voli.s-ul.eu/V3hPcILN.png
01:30:876 (2) - maybe a double on this sliderhead to make both vocals clickable just like you did for example here 01:35:770 (5,6) -
01:57:876 (4) - perhaps move this note to the red tick because that is where the 'sayonara' vocal starts. you mapped to vocals almost entirely in this section so imo that would be fitting
02:21:244 (2) - same here, note on red tick and slider at 02:21:402 - probably matches the rhythm better here.
02:26:928 (4,1) - idk this overlap you can easily avoid it. how about this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/NkQEu7lV.png you'll have to adjust 02:28:981 (2) - though if you apply.
02:43:507 -same as in Akitoshi's diff, why doesnt the break end here? 02:45:876 - seems such a random spot to resume mapping
03:16:191 (1,3) - omg where were these kinda patterns all the map all i saw was curved sliders LOOOL

[Polka's Hard]

yo ur offset fix itttt \o/
00:20:770 (4,5) - not perfectly symmetrical? recopypaste 00:20:770 (4) -
00:22:033 (1) - I feel like this slider sounds better ending here 00:22:033 (1) - on a vocal, the red tick sounds a bit random
00:32:060 (8) - are you sure you dont just wanna bring this to red tick? this is pretty unexpected for hard-level players
00:43:191 (4,5) - Holding the momentun with a stack here plays counterintuitive because of the strong sound on 00:43:349 (5) - , perhaps space them out just as you did in these instances: 00:44:612 (1) - 00:45:875 (1) - etc
00:47:138 (1,2) - bring them a bit closer to each other for better aesthetics like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/s822SKTl.png rather than having them barely touch each other
01:09:402 - wouldn't you want this strong sound clickable? just like you did here 01:08:138 (2) - 01:10:665 (2) - 01:11:928 (5) -
01:27:086 - huh where did the hitsound volume go D: why? lool
01:35:770 (3,4,5) - ctrl+j 01:36:402 (5) - and blanket it like this? 01:36:244 (4,5) - flows more naturally that way https://voli.s-ul.eu/A96WtlJ7.png
02:16:033 (2,4) - are they intentionally not stacked?
02:26:928 (5,6,7,8,9) - why is 02:27:402 - not clickable and why does the triple only start 02:27:560 (7,8) - here? that seems really weird to me, the correct rhythm should be this https://voli.s-ul.eu/IyYxVk5M.png
03:19:033 (1) - silence spinner end?

[Lost Memory]

00:07:823 (4) - space this one more cuz strong clap? would play more intuitive if there was a spacing difference from 00:07:192 (2,3) -
00:09:086 (4) - ^ well actually goes for all of those in this section if you apply them (i'd do it i mean its an extra cmon xd)
00:11:928 (1,2,1) - huh why does spacing suddenly increase here and then decrease 00:12:560 (2,3) - here again wh, idk I'd go through the spacing structure in this small part again cuz its pretty all over the place
00:20:771 (3,4) - wouldn't you do something like this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/spVJhptp.png it seems more fitting to me because you'll have the high pitched instrument on the downbeat 00:21:402 - clickable aswell and 00:21:718 (1) - won't seem so forced anymore, putting more emphasis on 00:21:718 (1,2,3) -
00:26:928 - skipping this vocal feels kinda off since you followed it all the time before. if you put a low spaced note here 00:26:928 (6) -, 00:27:086 (1,2,3) - will have more emphasis aswell without this break
00:37:823 (3,4,5,1) - i suggest adjusting the spacing so that 00:38:139 (5,1) - has the highest spacing out of these jumps because 00:38:297 (1) - is the strongest beat, just as you did here 00:39:086 (3,4,5,1) -
00:57:402 (2) - curve a bit more to blanket 00:57:244 (1) - better
00:58:033 - actually why is this strong downbeat covered by a sliderend hmm https://voli.s-ul.eu/ZFUzcnY3.png maybe this is a better rhythm
01:01:191 (1,2) - i feel this is a bit underwhelming maybe increase spacing like so https://voli.s-ul.eu/0ovCndxC.png for better emphasis on the guitar? or whatever melodic instrument that is lol
01:17:454 (1,2,3) - this angling plays kinda forced, i'd do something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/Zlgvmc1r.png but you'd have to adjust the pattern after that aswell.
01:25:507 (2,6) - are they not stacked intentionally?
01:26:928 (3) - perhaps move this a little up so 01:26:928 (3,4,5) - this angle is less sharp
01:33:718 (4) - ctrl g?
01:34:665 (4,5,6) - i feel like 01:34:823 (5,6) - should be more spaced because of the clap on 6, instead of 01:34:665 (4,5) -
01:35:139 (1,3) - stack them properly
01:43:191 (2,3,4) - rather than spacing them equally, what about something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/BAarjxbV.png
01:47:770 (1) - if u gonna curve it u might aswell curve it more to blanket with 01:47:770 (1,2) - :p
01:49:981 (4) - 2 notes? slider feels kinda underwhelming as you use a lot of short sliders here already and the drums get stronger
02:07:981 (1,2,3,4) - I think a better rhythm would be this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/6rjOVAOe.png try it out. you don't skip this downbeat 02:08:770 - like that
02:17:770 (5,6,7) - angling plays meh with a triple there, perhaps do this https://voli.s-ul.eu/xn0bcyWT.png (rotate 02:17:928 (6,7) - by about -25)
02:23:612 (2) - ctrl g?
02:28:191 (1,4) - stack em properly unless its intentional ofc
02:43:191 - omg u ended the break here correctly!!1!111 why isnt dis in other diffs xd pls force your gders thx
03:00:244 (2,4) - blanket lol
03:18:954 (1) - silence spinner end just like i suggested in other diffs

cool set! alright gl \o/

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

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Xinnoh 2017-03-23T00:54:42+00:00

this wall of text is bigger than the one in china

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

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Topic Starter

Nao Tomori 2017-03-23T05:52:28+00:00

Voli wrote:
[General]

Why are so many of the strongest beats on red ticks? Is it the song fuckin with the downbeat or idk cuz this just seems weird on red ticks 02:43:506 - 02:44:769 - etc. i mean that's what the song has to offer lol.. pretty common technique for songs.
Offset on Hard seems fucked, adjust it according to the rest of the diffs

[Collab Normal]

00:19:507 (1) - hm maybe dont use a curved here, theyre kinda overused here already so straight slider would add some variety it's actually my style here
00:27:086 (1) - why aren't the 1/4 mapped here 00:30:876 (4,5) - but here they are? changed the other 3
00:35:928 (4,5) - ye i dont like blanket mods but this 1 is too obv \o/ it's her style
00:46:665 (3) - reverse? the skipped beat here sounds a bit off
00:47:139 (1,2,3) - eh these aesthetics tho, either remove curve from 00:47:139 (1) - or 00:48:402 (3) - , this doesnt look nice unless you rotate 00:48:402 (3) - by like 45 degrees and adjust 00:49:033 (4) - accordingly i think this looks fine
00:56:139 (4) - if you insist on using another curved slider here at least make it the same as 00:55:191 (2) - (tho i'd suggest just not using a curved, a bit of variety doesnt hurt and there are so many damn curved sliders in this diff already lmao)
01:11:297 (2,3) - stack these properly
01:14:928 (1,2,3) - if you could find a way to center this symmetrical pattern it would look tons better
01:22:507 (1) - make this slider parallel to 01:21:244 (3) - ? https://voli.s-ul.eu/V3hPcILN.png
01:30:876 (2) - maybe a double on this sliderhead to make both vocals clickable just like you did for example here 01:35:770 (5,6) -
01:57:876 (4) - perhaps move this note to the red tick because that is where the 'sayonara' vocal starts. you mapped to vocals almost entirely in this section so imo that would be fitting
02:21:244 (2) - same here, note on red tick and slider at 02:21:402 - probably matches the rhythm better here.
02:26:928 (4,1) - idk this overlap you can easily avoid it. how about this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/NkQEu7lV.png you'll have to adjust 02:28:981 (2) - though if you apply. think this is fine
02:43:507 -same as in Akitoshi's diff, why doesnt the break end here? 02:45:876 - seems such a random spot to resume mapping
03:16:191 (1,3) - omg where were these kinda patterns all the map all i saw was curved sliders LOOOL not my part lol

[Lost Memory]

00:07:823 (4) - space this one more cuz strong clap? would play more intuitive if there was a spacing difference from 00:07:192 (2,3) -
00:09:086 (4) - ^ well actually goes for all of those in this section if you apply them (i'd do it i mean its an extra cmon xd)
00:11:928 (1,2,1) - huh why does spacing suddenly increase here and then decrease 00:12:560 (2,3) - here again wh, idk I'd go through the spacing structure in this small part again cuz its pretty all over the place
pass spacing is fine.
00:20:771 (3,4) - wouldn't you do something like this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/spVJhptp.png it seems more fitting to me because you'll have the high pitched instrument on the downbeat 00:21:402 - clickable aswell and 00:21:718 (1) - won't seem so forced anymore, putting more emphasis on 00:21:718 (1,2,3) - yup
00:26:928 - skipping this vocal feels kinda off since you followed it all the time before. if you put a low spaced note here 00:26:928 (6) -, 00:27:086 (1,2,3) - will have more emphasis aswell without this break yup
00:37:823 (3,4,5,1) - i suggest adjusting the spacing so that 00:38:139 (5,1) - has the highest spacing out of these jumps because 00:38:297 (1) - is the strongest beat, just as you did here 00:39:086 (3,4,5,1) -
00:57:402 (2) - curve a bit more to blanket 00:57:244 (1) - better 1 is not suppose to blanket 2
00:58:033 - actually why is this strong downbeat covered by a sliderend hmm https://voli.s-ul.eu/ZFUzcnY3.png maybe this is a better rhythm
01:01:191 (1,2) - i feel this is a bit underwhelming maybe increase spacing like so https://voli.s-ul.eu/0ovCndxC.png for better emphasis on the guitar? or whatever melodic instrument that is lol
01:17:454 (1,2,3) - this angling plays kinda forced, i'd do something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/Zlgvmc1r.png but you'd have to adjust the pattern after that aswell. i use this patterning quite extensively, the back and forth forced movement is something i want to introduce.
01:25:507 (2,6) - are they not stacked intentionally? it's my style
01:26:928 (3) - perhaps move this a little up so 01:26:928 (3,4,5) - this angle is less sharp
01:33:718 (4) - ctrl g? back and forth movement
01:34:665 (4,5,6) - i feel like 01:34:823 (5,6) - should be more spaced because of the clap on 6, instead of 01:34:665 (4,5) -
01:35:139 (1,3) - stack them properly
01:43:191 (2,3,4) - rather than spacing them equally, what about something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/BAarjxbV.png i don't want the effect this creates of stopping on 3 compared to snapping to it after the slider end, though i may reconsider this.
01:47:770 (1) - if u gonna curve it u might aswell curve it more to blanket with 01:47:770 (1,2) - :p same as other time
01:49:981 (4) - 2 notes? slider feels kinda underwhelming as you use a lot of short sliders here already and the drums get stronger guitar highlight, same as other section.
02:07:981 (1,2,3,4) - I think a better rhythm would be this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/6rjOVAOe.png try it out. you don't skip this downbeat 02:08:770 - like that
it used to be this, however i changed them all to slider + circle since that follows the held out vocal better in my opinion, plus it leaves at least one drum sound clickable.
02:17:770 (5,6,7) - angling plays meh with a triple there, perhaps do this https://voli.s-ul.eu/xn0bcyWT.png (rotate 02:17:928 (6,7) - by about -25)
02:23:612 (2) - ctrl g? back and forth thing
02:28:191 (1,4) - stack em properly unless its intentional ofc
02:43:191 - omg u ended the break here correctly!!1!111 why isnt dis in other diffs xd pls force your gders thx
03:00:244 (2,4) - blanket lol
03:18:954 (1) - silence spinner end just like i suggested in other diffs
cool set! alright gl \o/

thanks for the mod, i'll get to yours over the weekend probably.

P A N

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Joined December 2011

P A N 2017-03-23T11:52:44+00:00

Mir wrote:
[ PAN's Insane]
00:37:823 (4,5,1) - This flow is very harsh compared to the rest of the downbeat emphasis you use at 00:39:087 (4,5,1) - 00:40:349 (4,5,1) - 00:41:612 (4,5,1) - etc etc. Not sure how to go about suggesting a fix since this pattern is pretty core to your local structure lol. it plays fine imo.

00:53:770 (2,3,4,5,6) - You don't use any patterning like this anywhere else, and these seem to be mapped to the same sounds as other more simple patterns such as 00:50:139 (2,3,4,5) - it's various and it kinda fit with the song imo.

01:01:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - The guitar is doing a much more interesting rhythm here but you chose to ignore it for the same vocals that have been playing for the last 20 seconds. ._. well, let's try that

01:30:560 (2) - This note seems too much part of the vocals when it's just a breath in. What would make more sense to me is if it were at the end of 01:30:086 (1) - like this since then the rest of the spoken vocals get more emphasis and distinction. 01:35:612 (2) - Pretty much same with this: note isn't spoken yet is given the same emphasis as all spoken notes in this jump pattern. Applies to other kiais too. will decide

01:33:876 (5,1) - Ctrl+G this rhythm would follow vocals much better, and since you were content with skipping drums for 01:31:981 (3) - and similar, it would still be rhythmically consistent imo. The rhythm of the rest of the patterning around it seems to follow vocals heavily too, and this one not doing so as well stands out too much. eeee no, current one is more fit imo.

01:54:560 (2,1) - Blanket. ._. let's leave it like that

02:51:086 (1) - This sound uhh.. the electric thingy, starts on 02:51:244 - actually, not on 02:51:086. Starting on the vocals and not following them feels very weird. I think it starts here but the fade-in makes you can't hear.

Good luck!

thanks!

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celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2017-03-23T17:22:32+00:00

I think we need to talk about those diff names, because... Just no

From what I understand, the train of thought that lead to this was: Song talks about rain -> Top diff should be called Deluge of memories -> ctb has a diff name called deluge -> use ctb diff names. If I'm wrong please go ahead and correct me, but if I'm not this is such a dumb reasoning. I can understand Rain/Deluge working here, but Cup/Salad/Platter and Overdose have nothing to do with the song.

People use naming schemes from other games, when the song comes from those game, that's obvious. But this song has nothing to do with ctb. This is pretty much the equivalent of using NOVICE, ADVANCED, EXHAUST, INFINITE diff names on an anime tv size. It's unfitting and unrankable.

If you want to use an edgy naming scheme, go ahead. But at least use one that makes even the smallest amount of sense, such as: Cloudy -> Drizzle -> Shower -> Rainfall -> Downpour -> Deluge

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Nao Tomori 2017-03-23T20:19:24+00:00

thanks for the advice, but i'll stick to more conventionally accepted names here!

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_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-03-23T20:33:41+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
generic

:eyes:

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-03-24T00:37:02+00:00

m4m

extr
00:15:086 (2,1) - mind the overlapping man
00:16:033 (1,2) - swapping nc wud be better
00:20:139 (2,3,4) - i think it'd be alot cooler if u made antijumps here
00:25:507 (2,3,4) - ^
00:22:033 (3,4,5) - 00:23:139 (1,2,3,4) - why does the spacing get smaller lol
00:31:823 (6,7,1) - this combination looks kinda bad tbh why dont u just autostack
00:49:507 (6) - passive slider :/
00:55:191 (2,1,3) - pls make better triangle these small things make ur map look alot more polished
01:08:455 (4) - NC here man
01:58:981 (4) - ^
01:24:402 (3,4,5,6,1) - honestly flow is not the best here, kinda awkward dropdown from the slider there
01:28:744 (6) - white tick triplets don't play as good, also its not consistent
01:47:612 (1,1) - why do u have to NC twice here
01:49:191 (1,3) - the way u space this part.. try this

SPOILER

PAN
00:11:928 - the increment of the volume decreasing is wayy too much imo, the music doesnt even change that much tbh i would just increment by 5 each time tbh..
00:37:823 (4,1) - maybe nudge the 1 over a bit to avoid the overlap
01:20:454 (2,3) - how bout stack it on the end
01:55:349 (1,2) - a little more spacing wud be nice

polka
00:16:981 - i think if ur just gunna make a long slider section it would be more suitable with SC:1 since ur not focusing on the tick sounds
00:32:138 (1,2) - make the spacing consistent with 00:31:507 (6,7) -
00:35:612 (6,7,8) - u underestimate how hard highly spaced triplets are i think. there isnt a reason to use such high spacing here
01:59:296 (3,4,5) - ^
01:24:086 (6) - even though ur focusing on vocals, i just think its unecessary to skip so many drum sounds over it. you should at least have something on the snare
02:30:717 (1) - u can make this more symmetrical lol
02:55:981 (1) - ^
02:31:981 - i think ur skipping a fairly strong sound here why not just ctrl g the rhythm 02:31:823 (6,7) -

hard
uhh ar 7.5
u dont really need to follow DS that much u can space 00:19:507 (1,2) - out more to avoid the overlapping
00:16:349 (4,5,1) - omg this kind of overlapping is litterally the worst, like when they overlap but just barely ahhhhhhh applies to the entire section
00:52:191 (1,2) - stuff like this is even worse lol ^
00:36:876 - this section i really don't know why the spacing is so small here, its almost as intense as the kiai yet its the same spacing as here 00:26:928 -
00:47:139 - ik ur simplifying rhythm here to map the vocals but it really feels like shit imo lol, even for an easy or normal i wouldn't do something like this. especially how this section ends up being like half hitsounded and half not. seriously change this part lol, i normally don't mind skipping drum sounds but ur even skipping the snares.
also the spacing is litterally where they JUST touch which also is tilting. like even increasing the DS by 0.1 wud be much better
01:07:507 - ^ same
01:58:033 - ^
01:42:718 - 00:28:349 - compare these 2 sections and notice how ur spacing is different..
needs a lil work lol

normal
combo colors?

tbc

Last edited by Kibbleru 2017-03-24T21:56:47+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

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Log Off Now 2017-03-24T00:55:37+00:00

im slow
i got scammed so bad on drain time

[General]

tags in cryptic conflict
timing points in cryptic conflict

useless green lines in akitoshi's easy/collab normal/hard/pan's insane/cryptic
03:27:718 -
03:28:981 -
03:30:244 -

[akitoshi]

00:44:612 (1) - the red point on this slider seems kinda pointless to me, its not sharp enough to really add any visual emphasis on any note so maybe remove cus it looks cleaner imo
00:52:191 (1,3) - fix parallel
01:15:718 (2) - idk if theres a missing hitsound on this middle point in the slider? im unsure it feels empty
02:51:086 - useless greenline
02:51:402 - ya^
02:51:718 - ya^
02:52:112 - ya^

sry for super minor mod i just had to write something down xd

[collab normie]

uh i think you could be a bit more creative with the intro, 15 out 16 sliders in the first 17 seconds of the map are identical and a bit boring, maybe introduce some more 1/1 sliders in places like you did here 00:15:718 (3) -

00:24:560 (2,3) - stack breaks ds
01:08:297 (2,3,4) - this short 1/2 slider feels a bit meh to play because its out of place with the previous sliders, maybe try a rhythm like this so you still get feedback on both of the quick vocals whilst making it more involving and less jaring to play
01:18:560 (3,4) - broken stack i think
01:18:718 (4) - im pretty sure this isnt meant to end on the blue tick xd
01:27:560 (1,2,1,2,3) - why does this have a totally different rhythm to 01:17:454 (1,2,3,4,5) - when its the same music, ruins the consistency you have going on imo, would prefer if you chose one of these rhythms and stuck to it at least for this kiai
01:35:928 (6) - missing nc?
02:00:402 (9,1) - broken stack?
02:37:823 (5) - since the drum fill is supa fast at this part you can probably build up the intensity of this climax even more by swapping this for two 1/2 sliders if you wanted

[hard]

same thing about the kinda boring intro
some greenlines are unsnapped by +4ms
00:20:297 - ya^
00:21:560 - ya^
00:25:349 - ya^
00:26:928 - ya^

00:16:349 (4,5,1) - would prefer it if you kept the visual overlap on these notes equal so it's easier to hit/looks better
00:47:139 (1) - i dont think this clap is meant to be here
01:16:981 (3) - it would be cool to make each vocal in this slider clickable because it helps set the precedent of what you mainly follow in the kiai, but it increases difficulty a bit so ya up to you
01:22:981 (2,3) - blanket
01:30:560 (2) - this rhythm can be improved imo, the actual vocal starts on the red tick so having the repeat slider there would make more sense, especially because the vocalist sings 3 notes
01:43:823 (4) - this feels sorta weird to play because its the first bar in the section and it misses the downbeat, would like the downbeat to be clickable
02:04:981 - useless greenline
02:52:112 - ya^
02:26:770 (4,1) - blanket

[polkadots]

i really dislike perfect stacking considering the star rating we're at, its really difficult to read for people playing these difficulties, would prefer you to use a higher stack leniency, but its up to you what you do

00:16:981 - not a fan of this slider art section, even the easy difficulty is more dense than this and feels out of place with the spread
00:31:823 (7,8,1) - this caught me off guard and i misread the gap between these notes, to make this easier to read i recommend stacking (8) on top of (1) or changing (7,8) into a slider
00:46:349 (2) - i would change this into a repeat slider and delete 00:46:665 (3) - so you get more emphasis on the 2 super loud snares afterwards
01:03:560 (4,1) - fix stack
01:13:027 - i dont think you need break time here, its super short and even lower diffs don't have one
01:16:349 (5,6,7,8) - splitting up this drum fill feels like a weird choice to me, especially because the notes that you follow with the (1/2) slider are both different, would like to this this fill fully followed, 4 circles + repeat slider would work great here
01:37:191 (7,8,9,10,11) - here it doesn't matter so much because theirs vocals to follow, if your argument for not changing above is for the vocal on the slider end of 8, you should change 8 to have the slider end be clickable so it's more obvious to the player thats what you're following
01:46:349 - intentionally missed snare? this is the only drum you miss out in this small bridge section
02:04:191 - break thing again
02:16:033 (2,4) - stack thing again, although it might be better to actually make (4) overlap more so its easier to read, up to you
03:19:033 (1) - maybe reduce spinner length so its consistent with the rest of the difficulties? its currently longer than even the top diffs so i think reducing it to make it easier to handle and for spread consistency would be a good idea

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Nao Tomori 2017-03-24T02:40:56+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
m4m

extr
00:15:086 (2,1) - mind the overlapping man
00:16:033 (1,2) - swapping nc wud be better 00:12:876 (3,1,2,1) - 00:14:455 (1,2,1) - etc just nc'd on all last note
00:20:139 (2,3,4) - i think it'd be alot cooler if u made antijumps here fuck anti jumps
00:25:507 (2,3,4) - ^
00:22:033 (3,4,5) - 00:23:139 (1,2,3,4) - why does the spacing get smaller lol
00:31:823 (6,7,1) - this combination looks kinda bad tbh why dont u just autostack
00:49:507 (6) - passive slider :/ that's following drums in this entire section, vocals are ignored
00:55:191 (2,1,3) - pls make better triangle these small things make ur map look alot more polished
01:08:455 (4) - NC here man
01:58:981 (4) - ^
01:24:402 (3,4,5,6,1) - honestly flow is not the best here, kinda awkward dropdown from the slider there
01:28:744 (6) - white tick triplets don't play as good, also its not consistent all the strong beats of the song r on red ticks lol.. hard to do much here, i put triples for emphasis on the strongest beats which were generally first and 3rd or last ones to me.
01:47:612 (1,1) - why do u have to NC twice here idk i think ncing at the end of streams looks cute lol
01:49:191 (1,3) - the way u space this part.. try this
SPOILER

insane
00:11:928 - the increment of the volume decreasing is wayy too much imo, the music doesnt even change that much tbh i would just increment by 5 each time tbh..
00:37:823 (4,1) - maybe nudge the 1 over a bit to avoid the overlap
01:20:454 (2,3) - how bout stack it on the end
01:55:349 (1,2) - a little more spacing wud be nice

tbc

Log Off Now wrote:
im slow
i got scammed so bad on drain time
i got scammed so hard on not getting an icon from you =)
[General]

tags in cryptic conflict its my style
timing points in cryptic conflict its my style

useless green lines in akitoshi's easy/collab normal/hard/pan's insane/cryptic
03:27:718 -
03:28:981 -
03:30:244 -
its my style
[collab normie]

uh i think you could be a bit more creative with the intro, 15 out 16 sliders in the first 17 seconds of the map are identical and a bit boring, maybe introduce some more 1/1 sliders in places like you did here 00:15:718 (3) - no cuz the rhythm is repetitive too lol

00:24:560 (2,3) - stack breaks ds ok so
01:08:297 (2,3,4) - this short 1/2 slider feels a bit meh to play because its out of place with the previous sliders, maybe try a rhythm like this so you still get feedback on both of the quick vocals whilst making it more involving and less jaring to play
01:18:560 (3,4) - broken stack i think
01:18:718 (4) - im pretty sure this isnt meant to end on the blue tick xd
01:27:560 (1,2,1,2,3) - why does this have a totally different rhythm to 01:17:454 (1,2,3,4,5) - when its the same music, ruins the consistency you have going on imo, would prefer if you chose one of these rhythms and stuck to it at least for this kiai random stuffs can sometimes improve the map, no one is ever asked to imprisoned in so-called consistency ~~and this is a collab where the part switches in the middle~~
01:35:928 (6) - missing nc?
02:00:402 (9,1) - broken stack?
02:37:823 (5) - since the drum fill is supa fast at this part you can probably build up the intensity of this climax even more by swapping this for two 1/2 sliders if you wanted

[hard]

same thing about the kinda boring intro
some greenlines are unsnapped by +4ms
00:20:297 - ya^
00:21:560 - ya^
00:25:349 - ya^
00:26:928 - ya^

00:16:349 (4,5,1) - would prefer it if you kept the visual overlap on these notes equal so it's easier to hit/looks better
00:47:139 (1) - i dont think this clap is meant to be here sounds fine to me lol
01:16:981 (3) - it would be cool to make each vocal in this slider clickable because it helps set the precedent of what you mainly follow in the kiai, but it increases difficulty a bit so ya up to you
01:22:981 (2,3) - blanket
01:30:560 (2) - this rhythm can be improved imo, the actual vocal starts on the red tick so having the repeat slider there would make more sense, especially because the vocalist sings 3 notes
01:43:823 (4) - this feels sorta weird to play because its the first bar in the section and it misses the downbeat, would like the downbeat to be clickable
02:04:981 - useless greenline
02:52:112 - ya^
02:26:770 (4,1) - blanket

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-03-24T04:29:35+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
[Aki's Ez]

Combo colors!

00:11:612 - should probably be clickable, as it's the start of an intense drumroll. Perhaps switch the rhythm of this measure with the previous one] ye
02:43:507 - Feels like it would make more sense if you started mapping from here instead. ye

ya ye

Voli wrote:
[Akitoshi's Easy]

00:08:139 (3) - maybe make this two sliders aswell to match consistency with 00:10:665 (3,4) - (right now that is the only one using two sliders) not anymore
00:20:454 (2) - Why not an extended slider until 00:21:402 - to match this hold vocal? Can easily be done imo I'm trying to be consistent with other higher diffs.
00:25:507 (2) - ^ d
01:19:981 (1,2,3) - https://voli.s-ul.eu/lgDIUjvF.png how about arranging the pattern like this gives it a nice triangular structure and makes 01:19:981 (1) - flow more naturally into 01:20:770 (2) - ye
02:28:823 (2,3,1) - it's kinda a bummer that 02:28:191 (1) - doesnt match those 120 rotates, can't you find a way to make it match this 02:28:981 (2,1) - pattern? fixed 02:30:244 (1) - instead
02:43:507 - hmm why didn't you start mapping here? seems more logical because the transition from calmer part happens here rather than 02:45:876 - ye
02:46:665 (2,3,1) - imo a rhythm like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/KeXjHpvd.png reflects this part better because the strongest vocal on 02:46:981 - will be clickable and this beat here 02:47:297 - won't be skipped over. ye
03:19:033 (1) - perhaps silence this spinner end, its quite a loud sound on a fadeout. idk will add soon if nao added his diff as well w

Log Off Now wrote:
[akitoshi]

00:44:612 (1) - the red point on this slider seems kinda pointless to me, its not sharp enough to really add any visual emphasis on any note so maybe remove cus it looks cleaner imo eh
00:52:191 (1,3) - fix parallel ye
01:15:718 (2) - idk if theres a missing hitsound on this middle point in the slider? im unsure it feels empty maybe
02:51:086 - useless greenline
02:51:402 - ya^
02:51:718 - ya^
02:52:112 - ya^ removed all

sry for super minor mod i just had to write something down xd d

thanks boiz uwu

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ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-03-24T05:56:30+00:00

low diff check

[General]

Go check AiMod or MA

[Akitoshi's Easy]

00:35:928 (3,1) - Stacks are not recommended on Easy diffs.
02:11:297 (2) - Slightly touching the score on 4:3 resolutions, in case you care. http://puu.sh/uWzJm/103a0dd1f4.jpg
02:51:086 - What's the purpose of these green lines?
03:27:718 - ^

[Collab Normal]

01:09:560 (4,1) - Seems like someone made an accidental jump here.
01:12:560 (5) - NC for consistency with the two last patterns which used NC on the third downbeat.
01:18:560 (3,4) - Is this custom stack intentional? Looks very strange and I don't see a repetition of it on the other choruses.
01:58:033 (5) - Could it be that you forgot to add NC here?
02:00:402 (9,1) - Again, a peculiar custom stack.
02:11:770 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved.
02:18:086 (1) - Holy Moly! You're getting into the life bar here. http://puu.sh/uWAwH/2e4dba7326.jpg
02:26:928 (4,1) - This overlap is not very pleasant to watch if you ask me.
03:27:718 - You're not giving use to any of the green lines after the spinner.

[Hard]

00:21:876 (1,2) - You're touching the life bar a bit http://puu.sh/uWAJ0/fb793bae75.jpg
02:12:718 (4) - Life bar, but not so slight this time http://puu.sh/uWAUq/bb57c3ac75.jpg
02:20:612 (1) - Life bar on 4:3 http://puu.sh/uWAXY/a598b80559.jpg
02:23:139 (1) - This one is so obvious I don't have to give you a ss
02:28:665 (2) - *starts to feel a bit annoyed*
02:37:507 (2) - Basically the same as everything above.
02:38:139 (4) - Mmmmm this on 4:3. At least you got into something else http://puu.sh/uWB8M/dc5bfc7905.jpg
02:45:402 (2) - here we go again http://puu.sh/uWBcy/7059c7a9fe.jpg
02:55:981 (1,2) - & 02:58:507 (1) - same stuff on 4:3
03:14:139 (2) - no touchy touchy pls

Sorry for the shitty check, bye

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-03-24T07:52:00+00:00

@ezek the stacks there is still readable enough when it's more than 3 beats imo
the others were fixed, thank you!

asd

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:ロジックエージェント
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defiance

503 posts

Joined July 2015

defiance 2017-03-24T22:48:18+00:00

logic agent

Santtu

539 posts

Joined November 2012

Santtu 2017-03-25T10:13:29+00:00

Hi! Mod as you requested:

Polka's Light Insane

00:07:507 (3,5) - Not sure if intentional but maybe you would like to stack these?
01:46:349 - I think this place should have circle since you mapped it in previous strokes.
02:31:981 - You should also map this note since it's the strongest note in hole stroke and you mapped it previously many, many time.

P A N's Insane

02:17:928 (4,5,1) - These objects are too close health bar. Don't know if it will hinder BNs

Deluge of Memories

00:13:350 (2) - Why the object has same prev and next distances when other same alike objects have a different?
00:31:823 (6,7,1) - Maybe you would like to keep 0,25x distance to polish that.
01:01:191 (1,4) - Maybe you want to stack them properly.
01:14:770 - 02:05:297 - Would be cool if there was a circle. Even tho I know you map the drum sounds but for me it somehow feels too empty without it
01:56:612 (5) - Why not NC here? The music doesn't really make any exceptions there to have NC (01:57:086 (1) - ) in different place than before.
02:31:191 (2,6) - 02:31:349 (3,1) - Not sure if they are intentional: maybe you want to stack them properly.
02:58:507 (1,5) - ^

Can't wait to see this ranked!!

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-03-27T21:29:04+00:00

Voli wrote:
[Polka's Hard]

yo ur offset fix itttt \o/ k
00:20:770 (4,5) - not perfectly symmetrical? recopypaste 00:20:770 (4) - fixed.
00:22:033 (1) - I feel like this slider sounds better ending here 00:22:033 (1) - on a vocal, the red tick sounds a bit random ends on the little drum. Its fine
00:32:060 (8) - are you sure you dont just wanna bring this to red tick? this is pretty unexpected for hard-level players its light insane I think we good.
00:43:191 (4,5) - Holding the momentun with a stack here plays counterintuitive because of the strong sound on 00:43:349 (5) - , perhaps space them out just as you did in these instances: 00:44:612 (1) - 00:45:875 (1) - etc I like the stack there.
00:47:138 (1,2) - bring them a bit closer to each other for better aesthetics like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/s822SKTl.png rather than having them barely touch each other Its for flow not aesthetic. Plus I think it looks fine.
01:09:402 - wouldn't you want this strong sound clickable? just like you did here 01:08:138 (2) - 01:10:665 (2) - 01:11:928 (5) - It doesn't sound strong enough to be a whole different object for me.
01:27:086 - huh where did the hitsound volume go D: why? lool Sorry I still gotta do HS D:
01:35:770 (3,4,5) - ctrl+j 01:36:402 (5) - and blanket it like this? 01:36:244 (4,5) - flows more naturally that way https://voli.s-ul.eu/A96WtlJ7.png I like the flow it creates 01:36:402 (5,6) - here, though.
02:16:033 (2,4) - are they intentionally not stacked? oops fixed.
02:26:928 (5,6,7,8,9) - why is 02:27:402 - not clickable and why does the triple only start 02:27:560 (7,8) - here? that seems really weird to me, the correct rhythm should be this https://voli.s-ul.eu/IyYxVk5M.png Theres no triplet there. Plus 02:27:244 (6) - captures the intens vocal very well and creates symmetry.
03:19:033 (1) - silence spinner end? Ya still doin hs sorry

Kibbleru wrote:
polka
00:16:981 - i think if ur just gunna make a long slider section it would be more suitable with SC:1 since ur not focusing on the tick sounds Sorry still have to do hs.
00:32:138 (1,2) - make the spacing consistent with 00:31:507 (6,7) - you right
00:35:612 (6,7,8) - u underestimate how hard highly spaced triplets are i think. there isnt a reason to use such high spacing here nah I get it. Fixed.
01:59:296 (3,4,5) - ^ ^
01:24:086 (6) - even though ur focusing on vocals, i just think its unecessary to skip so many drum sounds over it. you should at least have something on the snare Sorry no. No reason to switch my rhythm choice for that one special snare o3o
02:30:717 (1) - u can make this more symmetrical lol I dont want it to be.
02:55:981 (1) - ^ ^
02:31:981 - i think ur skipping a fairly strong sound here why not just ctrl g the rhythm 02:31:823 (6,7) - Following the synth here, so I think its ok.

Log Off Now wrote:
[polkadots]

i really dislike perfect stacking considering the star rating we're at, its really difficult to read for people playing these difficulties, would prefer you to use a higher stack leniency, but its up to you what you do I like it for neatness and I think at this point, stacks would just fuck the whole thing up xd

00:16:981 - not a fan of this slider art section, even the easy difficulty is more dense than this and feels out of place with the spread Less intense part requires a less intense part. It shouldn't feel out of place, as it picks up after anyway.
00:31:823 (7,8,1) - this caught me off guard and i misread the gap between these notes, to make this easier to read i recommend stacking (8) on top of (1) or changing (7,8) into a slider fixed i think
00:46:349 (2) - i would change this into a repeat slider and delete 00:46:665 (3) - so you get more emphasis on the 2 super loud snares afterwards I like how 00:46:665 (3,4,5) - captures the guitar, so im going to keep this.
01:03:560 (4,1) - fix stack ok
01:13:027 - i dont think you need break time here, its super short and even lower diffs don't have one Over a minute of playtime gets a break. It's no fun to start an intense chorus after not getting a chance to recover.
01:16:349 (5,6,7,8) - splitting up this drum fill feels like a weird choice to me, especially because the notes that you follow with the (1/2) slider are both different, would like to this this fill fully followed, 4 circles + repeat slider would work great here I really dont get what youre saying. But your suggestion, I tried it, and I'm not a fan sorry...
01:37:191 (7,8,9,10,11) - here it doesn't matter so much because theirs vocals to follow, if your argument for not changing above is for the vocal on the slider end of 8, you should change 8 to have the slider end be clickable so it's more obvious to the player thats what you're following I think my interperetation of the vocals here works as a good build up to the chorus.
01:46:349 - intentionally missed snare? this is the only drum you miss out in this small bridge section Oh I didn't hear that. Thanks.
02:04:191 - break thing again yup
02:16:033 (2,4) - stack thing again, although it might be better to actually make (4) overlap more so its easier to read, up to you Fixed earlier.
03:19:033 (1) - maybe reduce spinner length so its consistent with the rest of the difficulties? its currently longer than even the top diffs so i think reducing it to make it easier to handle and for spread consistency would be a good idea Doesn't make sense since the sound carries longer but I reduced a bit...

Santtu wrote:
Hi! Mod as you requested:
Polka's Light Insane
00:07:507 (3,5) - Not sure if intentional but maybe you would like to stack these? fixed.
01:46:349 - I think this place should have circle since you mapped it in previous strokes. yup fixed earlier.
02:31:981 - You should also map this note since it's the strongest note in hole stroke and you mapped it previously many, many time. Since this is the second time I've had this pointed out, I fixed it.

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Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Nao Tomori 2017-03-28T03:53:04+00:00

ok i applied a bunch of stuff but my browser crashed before i could post it and im too lazy to actually respond so yea woops

updooted

Curisu

2,241 posts

Joined January 2010

Curisu 2017-03-29T03:54:01+00:00

sry for a very very late mod due to irl
placehold

Error
Major Issue
Major Suggestion
Minor Suggestion

[General]

Timing inconsistency among the whole set

[Memories]
Hmm not giving my overall view here again cuz it's quite subjective just giving some fundamental check cuz not familiar with this style

00:15:718 (1,2,1) - ds still imbalanced (not sure that this one is on purpose but at least 00:15:876 (2,1) may have a bigger distance base on previous logic if you're doing so)
00:36:954 (3) - would be little bit weird imo - 1) I haven't heard there is a sound in the music and 2) would potentially nerf 00:37:033 (1) (that is a very strong object of your next section, I would prefer make it as strong as possible)
00:52:033 (3,1) - just pointing out that they are having lower ds than 00:51:876 (2,3). Stacking 00:52:033 (3) with 00:51:244 (2) at (91, 170) would be one of the possible solution, though imo you could also adjust it deeper by having larger difference on 00:51:718 (1,2) and 00:52:033 (3,1), base on the previous suggestion. Kinda like that: https://puu.sh/v1mjt/5b1c84ae78.png
01:06:954 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - from the perspective of following the song should have same hitsound (snare)
01:14:928 (1) - ctrl+g; 01:15:402 (2) - ctrl+g; 1) for flow and 2) having different direction with 01:12:244 (5,6,7,8,1) to make a slight emphasis ('ve done this on 02:02:770 (5,6,7,8,1,1))
01:58:981 (4) - missing NC (01:08:455 (1)), also should put this little bit underneath (blanket 01:58:033 (1,2,3))
02:00:560 (4) - ^ NC (01:10:034 (1))
02:01:823 (3,4,5) - ds also little bit weird
02:11:770 (1,5) - stack? (170, 193)
02:38:139 (4,5,6,7,1) - inconsistency (02:32:928 (6,7,8,9,1))

[PAN]
I really love the inside consistency of your mapping concept of this diff

01:16:349 (1,2,3,4,5) - could having better blanket considering overlapped with 01:16:033 (5)
01:33:560 (3,4,5) - 1) considering the overall flow of this chorus and 2) the vocal is still continuous at downbeat and would be better if having a good flow on 01:33:560 (3,4,5,1), should switch the order of these circles in 5-3-4
01:37:191 (4) - prefering nc
01:53:297 (2,3,4) - blanket nazi (in a in a straight line)
02:19:349 (1,2,3,4) - being little picky about the flow here - the location of 2 is little bit too harsh and suggesting moving 2 while ctrl+g 3/4 separately. Example: https://puu.sh/v1Uaz/ada2f008ba.png (emphasizing downbeat 02:20:612 (1) in some degree)

[PolkaMocha]
tbh nothing much to say about this one

Please check your snapping again.
00:35:532 - little bit weird to skip this timing point

[Hard]

00:35:454 (4,1,2) - suggesting manually make a perfect overlap on 00:35:454 (4,1)
00:47:139 (1,2,3) - hmm that ds would be a major error from my perspective
01:25:665 - vocal not clickable; 02:54:086 - ~ ; 02:56:612 - ~
03:04:507 (3,2) - blanket (the curve of 03:05:454 (2)) could still be improved though you are stacking 03:04:507 (3,2)

P A N

2,346 posts

Joined December 2011

P A N 2017-03-30T11:24:31+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
m4m

PAN
00:11:928 - the increment of the volume decreasing is wayy too much imo, the music doesnt even change that much tbh i would just increment by 5 each time tbh.. tbh somehow it's already fixed tbh.
00:37:823 (4,1) - maybe nudge the 1 over a bit to avoid the overlap yup
01:20:454 (2,3) - how bout stack it on the end okay dude
01:55:349 (1,2) - a little more spacing wud be nice aaa nope.

tbc

fixed Santtu's mod

Curisu wrote:
sry for a very very late mod due to irl
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[PAN]
I really love the inside consistency of your mapping concept of this diff ty
01:16:349 (1,2,3,4,5) - could having better blanket considering overlapped with 01:16:033 (5) it's fine
01:33:560 (3,4,5) - 1) considering the overall flow of this chorus and 2) the vocal is still continuous at downbeat and would be better if having a good flow on 01:33:560 (3,4,5,1), should switch the order of these circles in 5-3-4 didn't ctrl+g but I made it easier to play.
01:37:191 (4) - prefering nc ok, fine with that
01:53:297 (2,3,4) - blanket nazi (in a in a straight line) now sure if I understand what u mean but i tried to make it straighter.
02:19:349 (1,2,3,4) - being little picky about the flow here - the location of 2 is little bit too harsh and suggesting moving 2 while ctrl+g 3/4 separately. Example: https://puu.sh/v1Uaz/ada2f008ba.png (emphasizing downbeat 02:20:612 (1) in some degree) hm the spacing will be too big.

thanks for mod guys.

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Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Nao Tomori 2017-03-30T16:30:30+00:00

Curisu wrote:
sry for a very very late mod due to irl
placehold

Error
Major Issue
Major Suggestion
Minor Suggestion

[General]
Timing inconsistency among the whole set
[Memories]
Hmm not giving my overall view here again cuz it's quite subjective just giving some fundamental check cuz not familiar with this style
00:15:718 (1,2,1) - ds still imbalanced (not sure that this one is on purpose but at least 00:15:876 (2,1) may have a bigger distance base on previous logic if you're doing so)
00:36:954 (3) - would be little bit weird imo - 1) I haven't heard there is a sound in the music and 2) would potentially nerf 00:37:033 (1) (that is a very strong object of your next section, I would prefer make it as strong as possible) imo having that overmapped note there could create more emphasis since you have to use both fingers quickly, besides i used overmapped triples a lot later too.
00:52:033 (3,1) - just pointing out that they are having lower ds than 00:51:876 (2,3). Stacking 00:52:033 (3) with 00:51:244 (2) at (91, 170) would be one of the possible solution, though imo you could also adjust it deeper by having larger difference on 00:51:718 (1,2) and 00:52:033 (3,1), base on the previous suggestion. Kinda like that: https://puu.sh/v1mjt/5b1c84ae78.pngadjusted to lower the difference. imo having exact same spacing is not really needed, i prefer the more spaced out visual.
01:06:954 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - from the perspective of following the song should have same hitsound (snare)
01:14:928 (1) - ctrl+g; 01:15:402 (2) - ctrl+g; 1) for flow and 2) having different direction with 01:12:244 (5,6,7,8,1) to make a slight emphasis ('ve done this on 02:02:770 (5,6,7,8,1,1)) imo my pattern is better since 01:15:876 (3,4) - has more emphasis atm
01:58:981 (4) - missing NC (01:08:455 (1)), also should put this little bit underneath (blanket 01:58:033 (1,2,3))
02:00:560 (4) - ^ NC (01:10:034 (1))
02:01:823 (3,4,5) - ds also little bit weird
02:11:770 (1,5) - stack? (170, 193)
02:38:139 (4,5,6,7,1) - inconsistency (02:32:928 (6,7,8,9,1))

[Hard]
00:35:454 (4,1,2) - suggesting manually make a perfect overlap on 00:35:454 (4,1)
00:47:139 (1,2,3) - hmm that ds would be a major error from my perspective
01:25:665 - vocal not clickable; 02:54:086 - ~ ; 02:56:612 - ~ imo making all vocal clickable here would increase the density too much for the spread.
03:04:507 (3,2) - blanket (the curve of 03:05:454 (2)) could still be improved though you are stacking 03:04:507 (3,2)

thanks for modding! no respond = fixed.

tutuhara

202 posts

Joined July 2013

tutuhara 2017-04-24T14:46:01+00:00

its my style Hype !
Nice Objective opinion

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2017-05-03T02:37:23+00:00

Easy.
03:13:349 (4) - This rhythm was quite vague imo since both the vocal and the drum were starting at 03:13:191. Making that spot clickable while there wasn't something major felt a little off from the music.

Normal.
Combo colors please.
00:15:244 - Similar with 00:15:876, it seems that the beat isn't really strong here. Mind using a 1/1 slider?
00:19:507 (1,2) - Spacing issue. Even the value is 1.1x, keep in mind that it's because of the sv change and the actual spacing is inconsistent with other 1/1s.
00:24:086 (1,2) - Any special reason for this 1/2 spacing decision? Other 1/2 wasn't spaced like this so this setting felt quite inconsistent to happen.
00:49:507 - There's a strong beat and a vocal existing. Skipping this beat felt a little odd.
01:10:033 - Since the cymbol sound was existing at here, making 01:09:876 a finish didn't felt to be reflecting the song properly.
01:17:454 - I think the kiai fountain should start here as other diffs.
01:27:560 - Something different happens starting here in the kiai section. While the first half was focusing on the vocals by expressing continuous sliders, the second half focuses the drums by 1/1 sliders. Considering we are still in the same kiai section, such major difference in the map happening felt bad in structures.
02:00:086 (4,5,1) - 01:09:560 (4,1) - I think some rhythmic consistency could be possible.
02:03:086 (4) - 01:12:560 (1) - Combo inconsistency.
02:51:086 - Inaudible. 10% in volume feel too low.
I think this difficulty needs some major improvement. To begin with, excluding the openning 1/2 reverse slider section, I couldn't really see some structure concept existing. Comparing between each kiai section themselves, not much rhythmic/pattern consistency is spotted. Comparing between kiai sections and non-kiai sections, I can't really tell something different was happening in the map while the song is quite different. And the individual technicals were nothing beyond consistent spacing. Expressing similar sections in a consistent but in a unique manner to tell the difference between different sections as a map will be needed overall.

Hard.
02:51:086 - Inaudible.
02:55:981 (1,2) -02:58:507 (1) - 03:01:033 (1) - 03:07:665 (2) - Can you adjust these objects to be in a lower position? Since it is too high, an hp overlap happens which hinders to properly appreciate the slider shapes.

Light Insane.
Check the timing/unsnap issue.
The current OD is the same with Hard. Since this is a Light insane, consider increasing it. And the HP setting is higher than Insane. You'll want to consult this unbalance with the host mapper and the other guest.
00:16:982 - It seems like the sliders were following the violin lines. If that was the only element existing in this section, it would work fine but it seems you've ignored the vocals. Unlike the violins appearing every new stanza, the vocal line quite differs and ignoring that trait of the music and just making a symmetric sliders felt a little forced. For example, there's a starting vocal at 00:18:087 which is a slider end while 00:19:508 is on a slider head. Adjusting the rhythms to reflect that difference in a consistent manner while expressing the violin lines would make stuffs less forced. I'm pretty sure you can still apply your slider concept while expressing the difference of the music.
01:56:298 (4,5) - Since other rhythms were going along the vocals, I think you can make an adjustment here to fit your overall concept. The current rhythms feels a bit detached.
03:08:140 (11,12,13) - Using a different 1/4 spacing concept right after 03:07:350 (6,7,8,9,10) felt a little inconsistent imo. Could've been organized better than now.
03:19:034 (1) - You'll want to end this spinner at a consistent spot with other diffs.

Insane.
00:35:533 - There's a rhythm existing here. Ignoring it and starting the drum stream from 00:35:612 felt inaccurate in reflecting the song imo.
00:45:876 (1,4) - Looks like the snapping is broken.
00:46:823 - If you listen the song, there is a snare sound which is different from 00:45:560. The copy paste concept itself was quite effective enough in expressing the repetetive song, but in this case since there is a difference in the song, just blindly repeating the pattern didn't felt appropriate to express. Giving some variation would work enough.
00:53:928 (3,4) - Considering other pattern usage such as 00:50:139 (2,3) - 00:52:665 (2,3) - 00:55:191 (2,3) - which is similar in song, only this place being an anti jump felt inconsistent while no major difference in the song exist.
01:53:297 (2,3,4) - Having no flow change towards (4) felt awkward since you've consistently gave a flow change on that sound before.
02:32:849 - It seems there's a beat existing here. Instead of a 1/2 slider, what do you think about making this a stream?
02:51:086 - Inaudible.
02:58:507 (1,2,3) - Comparing with other kiai intro patterns, this one felt way too ordinary which didn't form some consistency. At least you had those 1/1 sliders overlapping each other, but it's gone here.

Lost.
Check some unsnaps.
00:36:964 (3) - I don't really think there's some audible beat existing in the song, and therefore consider this an overmap. Removing this object would be appropriate.
01:16:675 (8,9,10) - The shape feels a little sharp at (9). Mind making the flow rounder?
02:51:096 - Inaudible.
03:13:280 (5) - Since 1/4 slider usage in this diff were done as a kick, having a 1/2 interval between (5,6) felt inconsistent with other settings. Just making this a 1/4 circle would make a consistent setting.
Fine structure idea here, but I think you can practice some more advance technical skills at the future to apply in your maps. Wasn't that bad, but things were kinda basic imo.

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Nao Tomori 2017-05-03T14:09:17+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Normal.
Combo colors please.
00:15:244 - Similar with 00:15:876, it seems that the beat isn't really strong here. Mind using a 1/1 slider?
00:19:507 (1,2) - Spacing issue. Even the value is 1.1x, keep in mind that it's because of the sv change and the actual spacing is inconsistent with other 1/1s.
00:24:086 (1,2) - Any special reason for this 1/2 spacing decision? Other 1/2 wasn't spaced like this so this setting felt quite inconsistent to happen. i don't understand. the visual spacing appears to me the same as other 1/2 spacings like 00:22:665 (2,3) - and 00:19:033 (4,1) -
00:49:507 - There's a strong beat and a vocal existing. Skipping this beat felt a little odd.
01:10:033 - Since the cymbol sound was existing at here, making 01:09:876 a finish didn't felt to be reflecting the song properly.
01:17:454 - I think the kiai fountain should start here as other diffs.
01:27:560 - Something different happens starting here in the kiai section. While the first half was focusing on the vocals by expressing continuous sliders, the second half focuses the drums by 1/1 sliders. Considering we are still in the same kiai section, such major difference in the map happening felt bad in structures.
02:00:086 (4,5,1) - 01:09:560 (4,1) - I think some rhythmic consistency could be possible.
02:03:086 (4) - 01:12:560 (1) - Combo inconsistency.
02:51:086 - Inaudible. 10% in volume feel too low. idea is to make it inaudible. the sound fades in as the slider is played. i am using the slider as a body rather than as a head or tail.

I think this difficulty needs some major improvement. To begin with, excluding the openning 1/2 reverse slider section, I couldn't really see some structure concept existing. Comparing between each kiai section themselves, not much rhythmic/pattern consistency is spotted. Comparing between kiai sections and non-kiai sections, I can't really tell something different was happening in the map while the song is quite different. And the individual technicals were nothing beyond consistent spacing. Expressing similar sections in a consistent but in a unique manner to tell the difference between different sections as a map will be needed overall. i've talked with xinely about this. they have raised the density of their parts, specifically in the kiai, to match the kind of thing i used. i will be lowering my parts outside of the kiai to better match with the density of the song itself. hopefully the adjustments are suitable, since i'm very inexperienced at mapping this low diff level.

Hard.
02:51:086 - Inaudible.
02:55:981 (1,2) -02:58:507 (1) - 03:01:033 (1) - 03:07:665 (2) - Can you adjust these objects to be in a lower position? Since it is too high, an hp overlap happens which hinders to properly appreciate the slider shapes.

Lost.
Check some unsnaps.
00:36:964 (3) - I don't really think there's some audible beat existing in the song, and therefore consider this an overmap. Removing this object would be appropriate. throughout kiai, i used overmapped triples for emphasis on strongest beats. here is something similar, though if it is truly unacceptable i would remove it.
01:16:675 (8,9,10) - The shape feels a little sharp at (9). Mind making the flow rounder?
02:51:096 - Inaudible.
03:13:280 (5) - Since 1/4 slider usage in this diff were done as a kick, having a 1/2 interval between (5,6) felt inconsistent with other settings. Just making this a 1/4 circle would make a consistent setting. this is done for two reasons. first is, ofc, the double sound lends itself to a double based clicking rhythm. 2nd, through this map, i tried to copy certain mapper's style. he uses filler rhythm to simplify anything remotely out of the ordinary, and i consdered a double to be one of those cases. therefore, a kickslider was my best option here. imo it isnt a problem because players would expect a 1/2 gap between all objects already.

Fine structure idea here, but I think you can practice some more advance technical skills at the future to apply in your maps. Wasn't that bad, but things were kinda basic imo. i'm trying -_- but i suck

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-05-04T02:26:53+00:00

@Sonnyc applied, thank you

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P A N 2017-05-04T22:42:40+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Insane.
00:35:533 - There's a rhythm existing here. Ignoring it and starting the drum stream from 00:35:612 felt inaccurate in reflecting the song imo. I want to use only 5 circles of stream so it will be easier than the hardest diff.
02:32:849 - It seems there's a beat existing here. Instead of a 1/2 slider, what do you think about making this a stream? I want to make it easier than the hardest diff here.
02:51:086 - Inaudible. umm if other diff keep this, I want to keep it too o.o I think it's pretty cool.
02:58:507 (1,2,3) - Comparing with other kiai intro patterns, this one felt way too ordinary which didn't form some consistency. At least you had those 1/1 sliders overlapping each other, but it's gone here. let's make some of it ordinary too ><

thanks for the mod sonnyc

long time no talk! oh and no reply = fixed.

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Title:Logic Agent
TitleUnicode:ロジックエージェント
Artist:niki feat Reol
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Creator:Naotoshi
Version:P A N's Insane
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Tags:jpop pan xinely polkamocha Gokusaishoku Giga-P Akitoshi
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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

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Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2017-05-05T19:18:24+00:00

:thinking:

Up stack leniency on Easy / Normal / Hard, because 2 is not an acceptable value and have some incidence on diffs (like 02:44:139 (2,1) - on Normal).
Just use value 7 as it's set at start.

[Collab Normal :]

00:19:033 (4,1,2) - Are you forced to do a so dense pattern who end on an overlap who make just the pattern more hard to read ?
00:21:876 (3,1) - Why didn't stack it with 00:19:507 (1) - to make it cleaner ?
00:33:086 (3,4) - Nice blanketu~
00:49:033 (4,5,1) - Too close of lifebar, 00:49:507 (5) - is even touching it a bit.
00:46:665 (3,2) - Triggered by overlap.
00:59:770 (1,3) - I don't understand why this is mapped with longer sliders when this section is more intense with guitar than before with just drums on
00:49:665 (1,2,3,1,2) - .
01:07:507 (1,1) - Both cover the same sound but you end one on vocal and other on drums, pls be consistent with your rhythm use.
01:09:876 - This beat should definitly be clicked, you can feels/hear it sounds off by having it on a reverse's end. Same for 02:00:086 (4) - .
01:17:139 (5) - This circle makes this unnecessary hard for a beat who is not enough strong to force player to tap a 1/2 after this long slider. Just remove it or move it to 01:17:297 - to be consistent with 02:07:507 (2) - .
1st kiai suffer from a huge rhythm inconsistency imo due to the cut in two collab section. For example, 01:18:718 - this beat is clickable on 1st half when other on 2nd half is not 01:28:665 - . Other exmaple could be why you map beat like 01:35:770 (5) - / 01:23:612 (3) - but ignore 01:24:876 - / 01:34:981 - . Definitly have to work on that point. Ofc same for the 2nd kiai, who suffer from the same issues and use a different rhythm than 1st one.
Also during 2nd kiain why did cut by 2 the NCing when you didn't for 1st kiai ? Also change after the collab switch on 02:20:297 - .
02:28:191 (1) - You can definitly feels than this slider was done because you was stuck by the top of the screen, and feels off of the diff due to start of the next part with 02:28:981 (2) - .
02:43:507 (1,2,1,2) - Could you do a pattern more simple and less broken ? There's an example https://puu.sh/vGx92/ce46e7d114.png .
All greenlines on last spinner 03:18:954 (1) - are unsnaped but that's not a big deal lol.

[Hard :]

00:21:876 (1,2) - A bit on lifebar.
00:46:981 (4,1) - 1.40x to equal spacing between 00:46:665 (3,4,1) - and make a better transition.
01:33:718 (4,1) - I wish you can do a less broken flow for that pattern, this is a quite dense and fast pace on that part, keep smth with a minimum of flow to don't crush players with that.
02:01:507 - Making this beat clicked but not 01:10:981 - ? Ohoh...
02:51:086 - 20% volume pls, it's almost innaudible.

[Polka's Light Insane :]

Check stuff Sonnyc mentionned.
Imo the SV is a bit too high on the intro (until 00:14:533 - ).
00:23:297 (2) - Could you not hide the start under 00:22:033 (1) - ?
00:35:928 (1) - This reverse just waste a huge vocal beat on 00:36:560 - who definitly deserve to be clicked due to his intensity, also would be nice to do the transition to the next section who is more musically intense.
00:39:402 - clap missing.
00:56:770 (7) - Could you make the wave of the slider even (more symmetrical) more like this https://puu.sh/vGzav/242ceec8ba.png ?
01:06:876 (8,9,10,11) - I think two reverse sliders would fit way more here, it sounds too weird to skip rest of beats https://puu.sh/vGzLr/4d95324d15.png . Same for 01:57:402 (7,8,9,10) - / 02:06:876 (5,6,7,8) - / 02:47:297 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - .
01:12:560 (9) - / 01:37:665 (11) - / 02:03:086 (9) - / 02:38:454 (11) - /03:18:876 (9) - NC it to be consistent with other diffs.
01:16:665 (8) - Should be at least a triplet like 01:16:349 (5,6,7) - because they cover same drum sounds, or two reverses like I suggested above.
01:58:033 - Why this section is that different from 01:07:507 - ? I don't hear any heavy difference between both, so could you make that more consistent ?
02:45:402 (4) - Do it with two reverse sliders to also cover 02:45:797 - .
03:07:349 (6) - End this slider on 03:07:507 - for the drum sound, and add a circle on 03:07:665 - to do a way easier stream to play than it could now,
that would definitly fit more what is supposed to be a light insane.
03:18:954 - Start your spinner here.

[P A N's Insane :]

01:45:718 (2) - For visual, put 01:45:244 (1) - start in the middle of 01:45:718 (2) - ?
01:48:876 (5,6,1,4,1) - Any reason why they're different and you emphasis drum on 01:49:191 - with a circle and do it play passive for 01:51:718 - ?
02:05:454 (2,3) - Imo just simple curved sliders is enough, since vocal is not divided as your red point could tell.
02:51:086 - 20% volume pls like suggested on Hard.

[Lost :]

Check AIMod thx.
00:18:718 (4,5) - / 00:20:771 (3,4) - / 00:22:033 (3,4) - / 00:23:770 (6,7) - /00:25:507 (2,3) - Proper spacing for 1/1 rhythm pls, it's super inconsistent.
00:28:033 (4,1,4,1) - Same pls, also use same one for both.
03:04:033 (2,2) - Stack ?
02:51:086 - 20% volume like Hard and Insane.

Normal needs a lot of work, as Polka's Insane could be polished a bit more before pushing the set forward. Call me back after improvements :>
Mukyu~

Nao Tomori

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Topic Starter

Nao Tomori 2017-05-05T20:29:09+00:00

all changed on hard. regarding 1/1 spacing on lost: i think it represents the song well and nobody misreads it so no change. everything else fixed.

will see wtf to do with this normal since i clearly suck at mapping normals...

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-05-06T08:55:32+00:00

About the 1/1 spacing for Lost diff, it's ok if you keep small spacing but pls do smth to have a bit of consistency between them (at least more than now XD)
Normal diffs are fun to map tho uguu

polka

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polka 2017-05-07T18:19:25+00:00

Curisu wrote:
sry for a very very late mod due to irl
[PolkaMocha]
tbh nothing much to say about this one
Please check your snapping again. k
00:35:532 - little bit weird to skip this timing point im mapping the guitar

Sonnyc wrote:
Light Insane.
Check the timing/unsnap issue. ya
The current OD is the same with Hard. Since this is a Light insane, consider increasing it. And the HP setting is higher than Insane. You'll want to consult this unbalance with the host mapper and the other guest. k
00:16:982 - It seems like the sliders were following the violin lines. If that was the only element existing in this section, it would work fine but it seems you've ignored the vocals. Unlike the violins appearing every new stanza, the vocal line quite differs and ignoring that trait of the music and just making a symmetric sliders felt a little forced. For example, there's a starting vocal at 00:18:087 which is a slider end while 00:19:508 is on a slider head. Adjusting the rhythms to reflect that difference in a consistent manner while expressing the violin lines would make stuffs less forced. I'm pretty sure you can still apply your slider concept while expressing the difference of the music. I prefer to map instruments. Sorry ono
01:56:298 (4,5) - Since other rhythms were going along the vocals, I think you can make an adjustment here to fit your overall concept. The current rhythms feels a bit detached. Ive been mapping instruments everywhere but chorus. If they happen to follow the vocals anywhere besides the chorus, it's coincidental.
03:08:140 (11,12,13) - Using a different 1/4 spacing concept right after 03:07:350 (6,7,8,9,10) felt a little inconsistent imo. Could've been organized better than now. k
03:19:034 (1) - You'll want to end this spinner at a consistent spot with other diffs. I think where mine ends fits way better tbh

Nozhomi wrote:
:thinking:

[Polka's Light Insane :]
Check stuff Sonnyc mentionned. yyyyup
Imo the SV is a bit too high on the intro (until 00:14:533 - ). I dont think so...
00:23:297 (2) - Could you not hide the start under 00:22:033 (1) - ? Mirrored with 00:18:244 (2,3) -
00:35:928 (1) - This reverse just waste a huge vocal beat on 00:36:560 - who definitly deserve to be clicked due to his intensity, also would be nice to do the transition to the next section who is more musically intense. I disagree it sounds the same to me.
00:39:402 - clap missing. thx
00:56:770 (7) - Could you make the wave of the slider even (more symmetrical) more like this https://puu.sh/vGzav/242ceec8ba.png ? k
01:06:876 (8,9,10,11) - I think two reverse sliders would fit way more here, it sounds too weird to skip rest of beats https://puu.sh/vGzLr/4d95324d15.png . Same for 01:57:402 (7,8,9,10) - / 02:06:876 (5,6,7,8) - / 02:47:297 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - . Those are so much more minor tho :/
01:12:560 (9) - / 01:37:665 (11) - / 02:03:086 (9) - / 02:38:454 (11) - /03:18:876 (9) - NC it to be consistent with other diffs. Why do ncs have to be consistent across difficulties lol
01:16:665 (8) - Should be at least a triplet like 01:16:349 (5,6,7) - because they cover same drum sounds, or two reverses like I suggested above. bruuuh the remapping that would take haha. Did somethin else.
01:58:033 - Why this section is that different from 01:07:507 - ? I don't hear any heavy difference between both, so could you make that more consistent ? Im confused they are consistent.
02:45:402 (4) - Do it with two reverse sliders to also cover 02:45:797 - . 02:44:770 (3,4,1) - I like how this looks too much sorry ono
03:07:349 (6) - End this slider on 03:07:507 - for the drum sound, and add a circle on 03:07:665 - to do a way easier stream to play than it could now,
that would definitly fit more what is supposed to be a light insane. Actually this was a originally hard. But honestly I changed it and tried it and I thought it to be way more confusing than what I had. Sarry.
03:18:954 - Start your spinner here. Good point.

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P A N

2,346 posts

Joined December 2011

P A N 2017-05-08T06:54:53+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
:thinking:

[P A N's Insane :]
01:45:718 (2) - For visual, put 01:45:244 (1) - start in the middle of 01:45:718 (2) - ? yup fixed
01:48:876 (5,6,1,4,1) - Any reason why they're different and you emphasis drum on 01:49:191 - with a circle and do it play passive for 01:51:718 - ? umm there doesn't have any reason but I just think that these rhythm also fit with the song. about 01:51:718 I think just an insane diff is decent to have some passive play for strong beat.
02:05:454 (2,3) - Imo just simple curved sliders is enough, since vocal is not divided as your red point could tell. k agreed, remove some red points.
02:51:086 - 20% volume pls like suggested on Hard. aight

ty for mod

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Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-05-09T22:08:25+00:00

We did :

Rhythm adjustments on Normal + missing hitsounds.
Fixing some bad issues on Light Insane after discussions.
Minor changes on hardest diff.

Wew that was hard orz.

Good luck there zzz

polka

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polka 2017-05-11T04:13:48+00:00

Hey these changes are cool and all but can I change them to fit my style please?

Also it'd be nice if you'd get the okay from me to change stuff without my knowledge first c:

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8056390
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8056404

Chaoslitz

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Chaoslitz 2017-05-11T13:54:03+00:00

The artist should contains れをる (Reol) only
t/510237

Album cover

~~I am sad that you didnt call me for gd~~

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-05-11T15:07:52+00:00

Chaoslitz wrote:
The artist should contains れをる (Reol) only
t/510237

Album cover

~~I am sad that you didnt call me for gd~~

alright, fixed. i didn't know about this project or i would have, sorry!
but you can help me out by qualifying this!!!

PolkaMocha wrote:
Hey these changes are cool and all but can I change them to fit my style please?

Also it'd be nice if you'd get the okay from me to change stuff without my knowledge first c:

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8056390
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8056404

i'm sorry to have changed it without your consent, i got a bit overexcited when it was being bubbled so i just rushed and changed things that were suggested.
if you'd like, you could send me a .osu file of how you would do things, keeping the same rhythm since i also agree with nozhomi about the points they brought up.

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2017-05-11T15:27:16+00:00

Rebub for metadata change.

Also ye sorry Polka but points we wanted to change were really important, and your answers were really vague so I wasn't really up to move forward with such issues.

Chaoslitz

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Chaoslitz 2017-05-11T18:55:35+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
but you can help me out by qualifying this!!!

sure

[General]

pls there is no soft-hitfinish1.wav ;w;..
you can add 'Gokusaishiki' to tags

[Akitoshi's Easy]

00:07:823 (2) - missing clap
01:46:033 - this feel empty when you mapped 01:44:770 (4) - but not here

[Collab Normal]

00:27:402 - missing clap
00:28:665 - 00:29:297 - clap should be on this two but not 00:28:191 -
00:31:191 - 00:31:823 - 00:33:086 - 00:34:349 - 01:00:244 - missing clap, there are still many claps missing behind lol, i am not going to point all out of them = w=
01:29:454 (3) - shorten this to red tick to match the vocal and also shorten the constant 1/2 rhythm combo
01:42:718 - It doesn't make sense when you add NCs in every downbeat in this section but every two downbeat in other stronger sections
01:44:770 - similar to easy i think it is better to map this out when 01:43:823 (3) - is mapped
01:50:139 (5,1) - The angel is really sharp here to play with, try this?
example
02:00:559 (1,3) - Instead of using two 1/1 sliders I think the vocal on 02:00:797 needs to be mapped out
02:06:876 (1) - Remove NC you didn't add it on 01:16:349 (4)
02:19:981 (6) - Stack? :v
02:58:507 - why are you adding NCs in every downbeat again lol

[Polka's Light Insane]

01:59:612 (5) - Stack it :v it looks untidy

[P A N's Insane]

00:11:928 (1,1,1) - Unsnapped

call me back when noz bubbled orz

Nao Tomori

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Nao Tomori 2017-05-11T20:34:45+00:00

Chaoslitz wrote:
Naotoshi wrote:
but you can help me out by qualifying this!!!
sure

holy i was memeing but okay cool thanks

[General]
pls there is no soft-hitfinish1.wav ;w;.. http://puu.sh/vMYQq/bda063e1c8.jpg it is used right here tho..?
you can add 'Gokusaishiki' to tags
[Akitoshi's Easy]
00:07:823 (2) - missing clap fix
01:46:033 - this feel empty when you mapped 01:44:770 (4) - but not here added
[Collab Normal]
00:27:402 - missing clap
00:28:665 - 00:29:297 - clap should be on this two but not 00:28:191 -
00:31:191 - 00:31:823 - 00:33:086 - 00:34:349 - 01:00:244 - missing clap, there are still many claps missing behind lol, i am not going to point all out of them = w= went through entire map and added all missing claps i want to kill myself now
01:29:454 (3) - shorten this to red tick to match the vocal and also shorten the constant 1/2 rhythm combo
01:42:718 - It doesn't make sense when you add NCs in every downbeat in this section but every two downbeat in other stronger sections
01:44:770 - similar to easy i think it is better to map this out when 01:43:823 (3) - is mapped
01:50:139 (5,1) - The angel is really sharp here to play with, try this?
example
02:00:559 (1,3) - Instead of using two 1/1 sliders I think the vocal on 02:00:797 needs to be mapped out disagree, we did the same thing at 01:10:033 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - where it starts to focus less on the vocals and more on the instruments. i think it sounds cooler
02:06:876 (1) - Remove NC you didn't add it on 01:16:349 (4)
02:19:981 (6) - Stack? :v actually i think manual stack here looks nicer.
02:58:507 - why are you adding NCs in every downbeat again lol
[Polka's Light Insane]
01:59:612 (5) - Stack it :v it looks untidy
[P A N's Insane]
00:11:928 (1,1,1) - Unsnapped

call me back when noz bubbled orz

kk cool

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