Reol - Logic Agent

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Nao Tomori

kanor wrote:

M4M

  • [Genal]
  1. Uninherited timing points conflict with Polka's WIP Hard diff.
  2. 02:07:981 - there are two same green lines here
  3. combo colors are not set at all the diffs, deeply recommend to fix

  • [Advanced]
  1. 00:28:033 (4,1) - spacing like this is bad for me cause it just tend to lap or not......advice to make the DS a bit bigger or smaller aaaaaaaaa this is issue with sv changing..
  2. 01:56:770 - a bit confused about missing vocal here, it was a heavy beat so it would be sudden if you dont follow it
  3. 01:58:507 (5,6) - if its a blanket, it may be a little off
  4. 02:26:139 (2,4,2) - i dont think it would look nice if you lap here
    how about this https://puu.sh/uRlWp/4777d51f8b.png
  5. 02:32:770 (3,4) - ctrl+G would get a better rhythm imo imo 2 clickable object on 2 different sounds is better here.

  • [Insane]
  1. 02:44:139 (2) - advice to two 1/2 sliders instead cause you just use 4 repeat sliders once, which would be tough at reading

  • [Ame]
  1. 00:29:613 (1,2,3) - not good feedback while playing cause you make the white line follow by a slider tail, how about ctrl+G 1 and 2 to follow the guitar?
  2. 00:32:139 (1,2,3) - ^ i hear new guitar sound on the red tick, but not on the white tick. a lot of people complained about this, maybe i am completely wrong, so i will try to listen more closely. for not no change.
  3. 00:45:718 (5,2) - the repeat slider is hidden by 5, which is unrankable it's faded out. i think. maybe. i'll check.
  4. 01:23:139 (4) - ctrl+G would get a better flow imo
  5. 02:30:718 (1) - ^
  6. 03:13:191 (4,5) - im not sure if a 3 stream was followed by this pattern cause you just use 1circle and 1/4 slider to express a 3 stream once


GL~ :)
Doormat
wip irc log from #modhelp

18:09 *Nao Tomori is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1225440 niki feat Reol - Logic Agent]
18:09 Doormat: Lost Memory?
18:09 Nao Tomori: ya
18:10 Doormat: 00:11:928 (1,2,1) - i'd argue that 2->1 should have more spacing, or that this should at the very least be equal spacing
18:10 Doormat: actually, just stick to equal spacing so it's consistent with 00:13:192 (1,2,1) -
18:11 Nao Tomori: mhm
18:11 Doormat: 00:14:455 (1,2,1) - same here
18:11 Nao Tomori: yea i made all of them equali
18:11 Doormat: i'd also argue that the music starts to quiet down at 00:15:718 (1,2,1) - so using the large spacing like you currently have isn't the best idea
18:11 Nao Tomori: hm
18:11 Nao Tomori: ya i nerfed that
18:11 Doormat: maybe a 1/2 slider + circle?
18:11 Doormat: or nerf
18:12 Nao Tomori: but i need to make 1/2 bigger than 1/1
18:12 Doormat: nerf also works lol
18:12 Doormat: hmm true
18:12 Nao Tomori: so i'm still keeping a jump there
18:12 Nao Tomori: like 1.5x with sharp ang
18:12 Nao Tomori: or something
18:12 Doormat: 00:20:297 - seems awkward to ignore this?
18:12 Nao Tomori: hm
18:13 Nao Tomori: everyone says that but 00:20:454 (2) - is on the vocal
18:13 Nao Tomori: 00:20:771 (3,4) - since the vocal like
18:13 Nao Tomori: stopped having new shit
18:13 Doormat: yeah i figured that it was mapped to the vocals
18:13 Nao Tomori: i just put those in to cover the snare
18:13 Doormat: if you're gonna stick to vocals then i'd consider splitting 00:19:507 (1,2) - this up into two 1/1 sliders instead
18:13 Nao Tomori: hmm
18:13 Doormat: similar situation at 00:24:560 (1,2) -
18:14 Nao Tomori: ya that sounds goo
18:14 Nao Tomori: i'll do tha
18:14 Doormat: also lmao 00:36:954 (3) - is on a 5% volume point
18:15 Nao Tomori: woops
18:15 Nao Tomori: forgot to remve it
18:16 Doormat: 00:49:507 (6) - i think making the slider end here clickable would be more appropriate
18:16 Doormat: but this isn't bad either
18:16 Doormat: up to you
18:16 Nao Tomori: 00:48:876 (3,6) -
18:16 Nao Tomori: these ones were supposed to be same
18:16 Nao Tomori: though 6 is
18:16 Nao Tomori: different sound
18:17 Doormat: ahh fair enough
18:17 Doormat: didn't notice
18:17 Doormat: my bad
18:17 Nao Tomori: well you are right too
18:17 Nao Tomori: but i think it's just different interpretation
18:17 Doormat: although it does sound a bit weird to ignore the vocal at 00:50:928 - when you make it a point to put a focus on vocals
18:19 Nao Tomori: i
18:19 Nao Tomori: made it a point to ignore vocals T_T
18:19 Log Off Now: playing with hd sucks, i feel so good then i miss
18:19 Doormat: oh wait
18:19 Doormat: it's alternating between drums and vocals
18:19 Doormat: oops
18:19 Nao Tomori: hm
18:19 Nao Tomori: hmm
18:20 Nao Tomori: the vocals that are followed are incidental
18:20 Nao Tomori: but every object is on a drum sound
18:20 Doormat: ahh
18:20 Doormat: that's interesting to note
18:20 Nao Tomori: 00:54:718 (1) - i could make this 2 circle to make that idea more clear tbh
18:20 Nao Tomori: like 00:52:191 (1) -
18:20 Nao Tomori: this is for a cymbal
18:20 Doormat: 01:18:244 (4) - i'm guessing you haven't hitsounded yet?
18:20 Nao Tomori: no
18:21 Nao Tomori: haven't
18:21 Doormat: cause this 01:18:244 (4) - is the first clap i've heard lmao
18:21 Nao Tomori: yea lol waiting for gds to hitsound
18:21 frostwich: are there any applications that
18:21 Nao Tomori: hm
18:21 Doormat: 01:22:507 (1,2) - i think a 1/1 slider would work better here
18:21 Doormat: which is kind of funny considering sergio was all like "no don't use so many 1/1 sliders" earlier
18:22 Nao Tomori: mm
18:22 Nao Tomori: the issue is that 1/1 sliders actually work well on almost every downbeat
18:22 Shad0w1and: my maps does not offer many pp
18:22 Nao Tomori: so i need to force 1/2 into some of them
18:22 Nao Tomori: to make it more dense
18:22 Doormat: no you don't
18:22 Doormat: since when
18:23 Doormat: hmm how do i put it
18:23 Nao Tomori: i mean for the express purpose of making the kiai time harder
18:23 Nao Tomori: not because it actually improves map x d
18:23 Doormat: a 1/2 slider + circle combo works less effectively than a 1/1 slider because of how long the vocals are held
18:23 Nao Tomori: hm
18:23 Doormat: at 01:22:507 (1) -
18:24 Doormat: this is the only instance where a 1/1 would work more effectively
18:24 Doormat: the rest of the rhythm for the kiai is fine
18:24 Nao Tomori: ah
18:24 Nao Tomori: ya
18:24 Nao Tomori: actually that makes sense
18:26 Doormat: but yeah nao back to the map
18:26 Doormat: 01:18:560 (5,6,1) - should be like 01:17:297 (4,5,1) - yeah?
18:27 Doormat: in terms of how the triples are places
18:27 Doormat: cause right now the 6,1 is stacked and is like ???
18:27 Nao Tomori: u mean spacing
18:27 Nao Tomori: yeah
18:27 Doormat: yeah spacing
18:28 Doormat: 01:37:191 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - i don't have anything against round streams but i don't think this looks the prettiest
18:29 Doormat: could you try a different stream shape perhaps
18:29 Nao Tomori: hm
18:29 Nao Tomori: idk what is a good shape lo
18:29 Nao Tomori: i just used slider to stream
18:29 frostwich: wave strean
18:29 Doormat: you could try a wave yeah
18:29 Doormat: idk
18:29 Doormat: just something that's not this round
18:30 Doormat: and curved
18:30 Doormat: i guess
18:31 Nao Tomori: ok i'll make a question mark
18:32 Doormat: 01:59:612 (1,4) - i'd swap the NCs here
18:32 Doormat: quite frankly i don't think the current pattern really fits the music all that well
18:32 Nao Tomori: hi
18:32 Nao Tomori: hm
18:33 Nao Tomori: i'll add nc
18:33 Doormat: there's more emphasis on 02:00:560 (4) - so i'd space this further out from the previous combo
18:33 Doormat: but i'd keep the new combo at 02:00:560 (4,5,6) - or whatever same distance
18:33 Nao Tomori: idea here is like
18:33 Nao Tomori: 1/1 spacing all the same
18:33 Nao Tomori: dunno
18:34 Nao Tomori: i guess i could make it an angle but like
18:34 Doormat: i'd still differentiate the finish
18:34 Nao Tomori: mm
18:34 Nao Tomori: i'll make it stick out i guess
18:34 Nao Tomori: also im gonna brb
18:34 Nao Tomori: laptop dead

edit: finished

19:02 Doormat: anyways to get back to where we were
19:02 Nao Tomori: mm
19:02 Nao Tomori: ok so
19:02 Doormat: 02:13:033 (1) - i'd make this less curved
19:02 Doormat: something like this https://puu.sh/uSbUg/50bc9f4b80.png
19:02 Doormat: as an example
19:03 Doormat: 02:31:191 (2,6) - i mentioned this stack
19:03 Nao Tomori: mhm
19:04 Doormat: and i'd try curving this slider 02:31:981 (1) - a bit more so that it looks something like this https://puu.sh/uScar/2422efd79d.png
19:04 Doormat: like it's a good idea
19:04 Doormat: but it needs to be more wavy to better reflect the whammy in the guitars
19:04 Nao Tomori: hmm
19:04 Nao Tomori: yup
19:05 Doormat: oh is the blue thing in the break at 02:48:402 (1) - intentinoal
19:05 Doormat: intentional*
19:05 Nao Tomori: the bookmark?
19:05 Doormat: not the book mark
19:06 Nao Tomori: oh
19:06 Nao Tomori: uh
19:06 Nao Tomori: no
19:06 Doormat: the blue thing in the timeline https://puu.sh/uSct0/7191daa563.png
19:06 Nao Tomori: idk how that got there
19:06 Doormat: did you change the AR or OD or something?
19:06 Nao Tomori: no
19:06 Doormat: :thinking:
19:06 Doormat: k that's strange lol
19:06 Nao Tomori: i mean i made it ar 9.3
19:06 Nao Tomori: from 9.2
19:06 Doormat: oh
19:06 Nao Tomori: does that change that?
19:06 Doormat: that's probably what did it then
19:06 Nao Tomori: huh
19:06 Doormat: yeah AR change can mess up breaks for some reason
19:06 Nao Tomori: ohh
19:06 Nao Tomori: i see
19:07 Nao Tomori: cuz thats when the first object approach circle show up
19:07 Nao Tomori: so the break ends there
19:07 Doormat: ya
19:07 Doormat: 02:53:454 - surprised this timing point isn't kiai
19:08 Nao Tomori: hmm
19:08 Nao Tomori: i wanted to keep all the kiais on the
19:08 Nao Tomori: "ame ni bla bla" parts
19:08 Nao Tomori: but i guess this is intense af
19:08 Doormat: fair enough
19:08 Doormat: i mean it's up to you
19:09 Doormat: 03:07:507 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - i think this might play a bit awkwardly
19:09 Doormat: due to how curved the 5-note stream is
19:09 Nao Tomori: i imagined the stream plays like a slider
19:09 Nao Tomori: and i didnt see people have issues here
19:09 Doormat: fair enough
19:10 Doormat: i guess it's more how it looks rather than how it plays
19:10 Nao Tomori: hm
19:10 Nao Tomori: well
19:10 Nao Tomori: it's a rectangle with a circle stuck on it
19:10 Doormat: aha that's one way of looking at it
19:10 Nao Tomori: i guess i could make it more even
19:11 Doormat: last concern is 03:13:191 (4,5) -
19:11 Doormat: why a 1/4 slider?
19:11 Doormat: plays kind of awkwardly since it's the only one in the map
19:11 Doormat: and at 90% into the map it just feels out of place
19:11 Nao Tomori: cuz like
19:11 Nao Tomori: listen to the drums
19:12 Nao Tomori: 03:13:191 - 03:13:270 - is really loud compared to the red tick
19:12 Nao Tomori: i know it's suboptimal but like
19:12 Nao Tomori: the song does that
19:12 Doormat: yeah
19:12 Doormat: i'm thinking more along the lines of making it more comfortable for the player
19:12 Nao Tomori: mm
19:12 Nao Tomori: it's just played like a double tbh
19:13 Doormat: yeah my only concern is that this is the only double in the map
19:13 Doormat: and it's at 90% into the map
19:13 Nao Tomori: yea
19:13 Nao Tomori: that's valid
19:13 Doormat: i mean it fits the music
19:13 Doormat: so i can't exactly say it's wrong
19:13 Nao Tomori: but i think it fits the song too well to not leave it as a double
19:13 Nao Tomori: lol
19:13 Doormat: yeah
19:13 Doormat: i'd just say get a few more opinions there before you finalize anything
19:14 Nao Tomori: well
19:14 Nao Tomori: you're the 2nd mod on this
19:14 Nao Tomori: so still far off xd
19:14 Doormat: zzzz
19:14 Doormat: fair enough
19:14 Nao Tomori: dont think thiss is getting speed ranked any time soon
19:14 Doormat: and yeah that's about it
19:14 Nao Tomori: cool
polka
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Hobbes2
Thanks for providing additional maps to mod, Nao. You're my favorite BN.

[General]

WIP hard is not an acceptable difficulty name. please adjust this!

[Ame]

01:21:244 (1,2,3,4) - these sldiers are on red ticks, but in a song the emphasis is on the white ticks. bad mapping ..
01:25:507 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this star in the song is not a perfect star. please adjust it to be perfect for aesthetic and symmetry.
01:28:823 (1) - unfortunately the zigzag method of wave construction is unrankable. sorry
01:33:718 (4) - in the song, singer goes "ah ah" but you map both the slider while vocal should be click. mistake.
01:34:823 (5,1,4) - unrankable blanket error
02:58:665 - bookmark goes through the slider??
these errors repeat i wont repeat myself find them yourself thank you
Stack leniency is larger than .9 or smaller than .3! unrankable!
polka

Hobbes2 wrote:

WIP hard is not an acceptable difficulty name. please adjust this! :arrow:ur mom iz gay
osu file format v14

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[Metadata]
Title:Logic Agent
TitleUnicode:ロジックエージェント
Artist:niki feat Reol
ArtistUnicode:niki feat れをる
Creator:Nao Tomori
Version:Polka's Hard
Source:
Tags:
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Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

Hobbes2 wrote:

Thanks for providing additional maps to mod, Nao. You're my favorite BN.

[General]

WIP hard is not an acceptable difficulty name. please adjust this! fixed!

[Ame]

01:21:244 (1,2,3,4) - these sldiers are on red ticks, but in a song the emphasis is on the white ticks. bad mapping .. it's my style
01:25:507 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this star in the song is not a perfect star. please adjust it to be perfect for aesthetic and symmetry. fixed!
01:28:823 (1) - unfortunately the zigzag method of wave construction is unrankable. sorry my mapping makes objective sense, not your sense
01:33:718 (4) - in the song, singer goes "ah ah" but you map both the slider while vocal should be click. mistake. no fuck you
01:34:823 (5,1,4) - unrankable blanket error fixed!
02:58:665 - bookmark goes through the slider?? fuk
these errors repeat i wont repeat myself find them yourself thank you fixed all bookmarks
Stack leniency is larger than .9 or smaller than .3! unrankable! ur wrong tbh.. reported.
Cerberus Roze
[Lost Memory]

Hai

00:06:876 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern here thats repeated through the intro i feel you did it back to front, i feel every white tick that has that strong drum sound and thumping drum sound should have a slider and everything else should be just a circle, its awkward just having 1/1 notes there
i feel filling out the map more adds a lot and makes it less boring, and if your trying to undermap because the song is "calm" i guess i dont think that really works because its really awkward, heres an example of how i think the rhythm could be mapped better if you are unsure on what i mean

00:27:402 (3) - also here, more awkward pauses, such a good spot to add a slider to fill out the map till the next beat or what ever you are mapping to


00:32:297 (2) - this note ends on a strong beat? its confusing what your mapping to here so idk LOL


00:47:612 (3) - after every white tick here add slider for better feel (to fill it out really) then maybe stack the circles untill this point 00:51:718 (1) - and make jumps for that, mainly to make it stand out because its different to the rest of that section

00:57:718 (2) - theres a few spots like this where you dont have a slider on strong sound, im assuming your trying to prioritize the guitar here too? either way make sure you put a slider to put emphasis on whats being mapped because i cant tell

01:17:454 - in the chorus there are a lot of sliders ending on strong notes and circles where sliders should be, i think you should prioritize the drums then when it fits do an extra long slider or stack or something to put emphasis on vocals. to me atleast it seems like your putting vocals first which is fine it works but maybe another way is better

;o nice song and map good luck! hope i was helpful owo

also quick question, mind if i do a GD? i like this song o.o, will probably be 5.5-6* max if your ok with that, i understand if your not interested ;p
Hobbes2
NM = no mod, so there is no mod here sorry

dont forget to not kds this lol

[General]

Fix tags
do hitsounds

[Aki's Ez]

Combo colors!

00:11:612 - should probably be clickable, as it's the start of an intense drumroll. Perhaps switch the rhythm of this measure with the previous one]
02:43:507 - Feels like it would make more sense if you started mapping from here instead.

ya

[Collab Normal]

combo colors. Also, go through and be consistent with your NCs. I mentioned specifically complicated ones (I guess), but you should really be consistent with how often you put your NCs. Right now it varies between every two measure and every measure all over the place.

00:19:033 (4,2) - this kind of overlap is pretty poo for a normal. Fixing this requires moving stuff around but I think you should.
00:21:876 (1) - NC should be on 00:22:033 (2) - instead
00:23:139 (1) - Remove NC and move it to 00:24:086 (3) - to be consistent with your NC every 2 measures pattern
00:24:086 (3) - For rhythm purposes I'd shorten this to a 1/1 slider and make 00:24:560 - clickable. If you apply the above NC suggestion, put the NC on 00:24:560 - instead.
00:46:665 (3,1,2) - Eh..would prefer if you stack 2 under 3's tail
01:00:402 - shouldnt really be clickable compared to 01:00:244, which is the more important guitar sound and drum.
01:06:876 (5,2) - Yucky overlap
01:11:139 - Circle for vocal?
01:10:033 (1,2) - If you try to blanket these it would look way better. Note that if you apply the above it would affect this entirely because of DS
01:23:297 (2) - Don't like this, cuts over a strong vocal on 01:24:086 - and forces you to skip another vocal on 01:24:402 -
01:27:560 (1) - Hm...Jumps in normals are okay I guess but this one's kinda bad because it makes the 3/2 gap harder to read.
01:50:139 (5) - More appropriate rhythm would be 1/2 slider into 1/1 slider on 01:50:454. 01:51:086 - can be a circle then, and you'd still be following vocals while making sure the right sounds are emphasized.
02:00:559 (1) - Shorten to the red tick, then add a 1/1 slider on 02:01:349 to capture the vocals better.
02:07:981 - no kiai?

Hard to mod this because the rhythm selections felt kinda random. Sometimes you guys would map vocals, sometimes ignore strong vocals, I couldn't tell when you'd do which and why. Maybe it's because a collab? idk. Feel like you guys could go through and be more consistent with that.

[Advanced]

There's a big flaw in this openings' aesthetics (and I guess for the other slow parts too), and it's that because of the DS you chose, 1/2 gaps sometimes touch and sometimes do not. Example would be 00:27:086 (2,3) - vs 00:28:033 (4,1). This is actually really noticeable, and the easiest way to fix this is to either raise or decrease the DS by like .05.

Also, clean up your combos

00:41:297 (2,3,4,1) - Make a square, so that 00:41:297 (2,1) - aren't so close to touching.
00:42:718 - high pitched sound in the melody here makes me think it should be clickable. You could convert 00:42:560 (2) - to two circles. Same for 00:43:981 -
01:01:191 - new guitar introduced, so I suggest making this clickable
01:33:560 (3) - i was memeing about the "ah ah" thing in my shitmod but here i actually do think they should be clickable
01:36:876 (2,3,4) - equal distance between 2, 3's head, and 4 for aesthetics
01:57:402 (1,2,3) - The new slow section hasn't even started yet, so don't reduce the DS yet
01:58:033 (3) - NC
02:48:402 (2) - ctrl+right once to make the stack look better (so its +4,+4 instead of +3,+4)

[Polka's Hard]

red timing points aren't consistent with rest of the maps

on the new RC its a guideline for 1/2 stacks in Hard Maps to not perfect stack, but to stack normally. you could lowkey circumvent this by asking nao to call his advanced a hard and to call this diff a light insane 👀

00:22:033 (1,2) - kinda of an ugly transition between these, don't really like the overlap
00:32:060 (8,1) - would stack these tbh, makes it easier to read these as 1/4, esp since this is the first 1/4 in the map
00:42:717 - Should be clickable imo, same with 00:43:981, to better follow the rhythm of the music. high pitched sound in the melody here so it's worth following.
00:57:717 (2) - split this into circle and 1/2 slider so that you can map the vocal on 00:57:875 -
01:16:823 - why nothing here :o
02:16:033 (2,4) - stack these?
03:02:296 (5,1) - stack?

clean map. Maybe you could consider NCing twice as often as some of the combos get kinda long / into the double digits, but it's alright as is as well.

I'd mod the rest but im lazy and I don't like the song too much, so maybe I'll come back and mod the harder diffs later. Good luck!
_Meep_
imgay
topdiff
00:32:139 (1,2) - ctrl+G rhythm
00:34:665 (1,2) - ^
00:36:560 (2) - Stop this on 00:36:876 - since you're mapping to the sync sound whatever it is,and it ends when the drum beat plays on 00:36:876 -
00:43:349 (1,2) - This flow isn't the best,probably Ctrl+G (2)
00:46:349 (2) - Why not ctrl+G this? the circular flow from the previous slider would be completely disrupted if you were to let it start from below
01:01:191 (1,2) - I feel like these two are too underwhelming, the DS isn't too far to play that sudden increase in guitar volume
01:51:560 (5,1) - Swap NC and NC 01:52:823 (4) -
01:58:033 - What happened to all the sliders from before on 01:07:507 - ? Keep similar parts consistent in their rhythm
02:07:981 (1,3) - gay copypaste ew dqpls xdxdxd
02:14:612 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This movement is really uncomfortable,I dont see any flow and its quite hard to know as 02:14:297 (1,2) - is clockwise circular flow and your map/chorus is filled with those everywhere like 02:11:770 (1,2,3,4) - and 02:13:033 (1,2,3,4) - .
02:19:033 (4) - move to around 299 28 so as to not interrupt the slight flow created at 02:18:718 (3) - too awkwardly
02:19:823 (2,3,4) - what happened to the flow? o-o

Overall diff is okay but could do a bit more polishing on patterning and visual aesthetics. The second chorus is a mess and needs to be fixed imo
pan
00:36:560 (3,4,1) - pretty hard to know that this is a 1/1 gap then a 1/2 gap afterwards,visually no one would see it that way. I think you may need to rethink this part
00:37:823 (4,1) - dat overlap ><
00:41:612 (4) - Move it up please,I dont see why theres a y-axis difference here 00:39:560 (1,1) - but a x-axis difference 00:40:349 (4,4) -
well done,i love the copy paste, its really good (except for dem gay overlaps)
polka
00:16:981 - the jumps from slider to slider here is pretty hard imo,better to change it because you used same distance for 1/1 beforehand 00:08:770 (5,1) - but its 1/2 here on 00:19:507 (3,4) -
00:33:402 (1,4) - Swap NC to be consistent with the ncing
00:47:138 (1,2) - I rather have 1 overlap into the sliderbody of 2 but meh ;/
00:58:507 (5) - front and back not equal
ok diff
i dont mod lower diffs
polka

Hobbes2 wrote:

[Polka's Hard]

red timing points aren't consistent with rest of the maps :arrow:theres only one what

on the new RC its a guideline for 1/2 stacks in Hard Maps to not perfect stack, but to stack normally. you could lowkey circumvent this by asking nao to call his advanced a hard and to call this diff a light insane 👀 :arrow:what

00:22:033 (1,2) - kinda of an ugly transition between these, don't really like the overlap :arrow:Nowhere else to put it.
00:32:060 (8,1) - would stack these tbh, makes it easier to read these as 1/4, esp since this is the first 1/4 in the map :arrow:I disagree, it might look like 1/2 snap.
00:42:717 - Should be clickable imo, same with 00:43:981, to better follow the rhythm of the music. high pitched sound in the melody here so it's worth following. :arrow:Following drums sorry
00:57:717 (2) - split this into circle and 1/2 slider so that you can map the vocal on 00:57:875 - :arrow:following instruments
01:16:823 - why nothing here :o:arrow:fixed.
02:16:033 (2,4) - stack these? :arrow:Doesn't look good off of the circle curve slider for me.
03:02:296 (5,1) - stack? :arrow:fixed.

clean map. Maybe you could consider NCing twice as often as some of the combos get kinda long / into the double digits, but it's alright as is as well. :arrow:I was going to break the combos in half where they hit the double digits but some manwhores might come in and whine about inconsistent comboing. So it'll stay for now.

I'd mod the rest but im lazy and I don't like the song too much, so maybe I'll come back and mod the harder diffs later. Good luck!
osu file format v14

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Mir
Hi. I'm a masochist!

[ General]
  1. You have inconsistent timing, tags, and creator throughout your set. Double check them.
  2. Combo colors on the Easy amd Normal aren't set, is that intentional?
  3. Advanced has dupe timing points at 01:14:928, Normal at 02:07:981,
  4. Only OD 8.3 on 5* :thinking:

[ Lost Memory]
  1. 02:47:769 (6) - Unsnapped slider end.
  2. 00:08:139 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern flows differently from all the other ones for some reason. The others have flow parallel to the slider it starts from yet this one is perpendicular.
  3. 00:15:718 (1,2) - Could be cool to actually stack these cuz you get emphasis and lower spacing, which is what you seem to want here.
  4. 00:28:033 (4) - Nice stack lol.
  5. 00:36:560 (2) - This skips all the stuff going on on the white tick: vocals, the woosh sound, and the drums, and lands on a blue with nothing on it. ._. I would make a kickslider on the white but that's personal preference, the thing that bugs me is you basically skip a strong lead-in beat I guess to emphasize the next red tick? You can do that in other ways and still keeping the white clickable or at least on a slider end.
  6. 01:00:244 (2,3,4) - I think ctrl+g this rhythm would make more of the guitar clickable and would play more fun tbh.
  7. 01:17:297 (4,5,1) - I think stacking this would give more emphasis. The way it plays now is too flowy imo, and the sound is really strong so some harsher emphasis is justified.
  8. 01:23:139 (4) - This could be two 1/2 sliders. I'm not really sure why it's 1/1 in the first place really. Vocal starts on the head and starts on the end and you skip a drum in the middle but nowhere else do you ever do this. You seem to be fine with mapping 1/1 vocals as 1/2 sliders at 01:21:244 (1,2,3,4) - anyways.
  9. 01:33:718 (4,1) - Ctrl+G'ing this would make more of the vocals clickable and generally feels better to play - unless you're following drums.
  10. 01:46:981 (3) - Could use an NC since this slowdown is pretty unexpected. At least it was to me. Especially considering there's a spaced 1/4 gap from the slider end, could be easier to read if NC'd.
  11. 01:49:981 (4) - Could be two circles for vocals while 01:49:191 (1) - could be two circles for guitar. Either works for more click emphasis on the sounds you might be mapping to.
  12. 01:51:086 (3) - For guitar could also be two circles. Same for 01:52:191 (1) - unless you want to map this vocal, which tbh doesn't really transition too well since you map vocals only with this slider then follow drums and guitar again after.
  13. 01:52:823 (4) - Pretty strong note to not NC. It marks the halfway point of the section if you look at the bookmarks you put and that note is usually very strong.
  14. 01:55:823 (2) - Mapping this kick on a slider end is kind if weird considering all the other important drum sounds in this combo are clickable. It also creates ambiguity as to what you're following since it could be either drums or guitar.
  15. 02:00:560 (4) - Strong note with no emphasis or even an NC. Just a slight spacing increase would work.
  16. 02:14:928 (3,4) - Could make this a slightly curved vertical slider so that click emphasis on vocals is better on 02:15:244 (5,6). Since 3 and 4 don't have distinct sounds (only 3 starts on vocal and 4 doesn't have anything important on it) I don't really think they should be mapped as circles, while 5 and 6 do have distinct vocals yet don't have much click emphasis.
  17. 02:27:244 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This is really sharp and uncomfortable for only a drumroll. In other places you didn't map it with such a high amount of uncomfortable flow, so maybe make this a bit more comfortable? Just a bit.
  18. 02:45:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Sudden spacing increase? I mean the vocals come in sure but they do at many other times in the map and you don't increase spacing like this. I think this stream should just be constant DS.

[ PAN's Insane]
  1. 00:37:823 (4,5,1) - This flow is very harsh compared to the rest of the downbeat emphasis you use at 00:39:087 (4,5,1) - 00:40:349 (4,5,1) - 00:41:612 (4,5,1) - etc etc. Not sure how to go about suggesting a fix since this pattern is pretty core to your local structure lol.
  2. 00:53:770 (2,3,4,5,6) - You don't use any patterning like this anywhere else, and these seem to be mapped to the same sounds as other more simple patterns such as 00:50:139 (2,3,4,5) -
  3. 01:01:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - The guitar is doing a much more interesting rhythm here but you chose to ignore it for the same vocals that have been playing for the last 20 seconds. ._.
  4. 01:30:560 (2) - This note seems too much part of the vocals when it's just a breath in. What would make more sense to me is if it were at the end of 01:30:086 (1) - like this since then the rest of the spoken vocals get more emphasis and distinction. 01:35:612 (2) - Pretty much same with this: note isn't spoken yet is given the same emphasis as all spoken notes in this jump pattern. Applies to other kiais too.
  5. 01:33:876 (5,1) - Ctrl+G this rhythm would follow vocals much better, and since you were content with skipping drums for 01:31:981 (3) - and similar, it would still be rhythmically consistent imo. The rhythm of the rest of the patterning around it seems to follow vocals heavily too, and this one not doing so as well stands out too much.
  6. 01:54:560 (2,1) - Blanket. ._.
  7. 02:51:086 (1) - This sound uhh.. the electric thingy, starts on 02:51:244 - actually, not on 02:51:086. Starting on the vocals and not following them feels very weird.

[ Advanced]


  • First off the DS is so close that it create REALLY close overlaps that are like barely there but it's super triggering can you like icrease DS slightly by 0.1x in the slow parts?

  1. 00:29:612 (4) - Shouldn't this be NC? :thinking:
  2. 01:01:981 (4) - Could be two circles for the snares.
  3. 01:03:244 (3) - This could be two circles like you did for 01:04:507 (3,4) - since the click emphasis would be a bit better with the second one.
  4. 01:25:823 (3,1,2) - Could be more visually consistent in spacing.
  5. 01:34:823 (4) - Also would probably be cooler as two circles cuz there are distinct sounds there.
  6. 01:35:770 (3,4) - Ctrl+G'ing this makes more sense to me actually since the reverse has more of the same type of vocal on it... uh.. you know what I mean? It's really hard to explain. x.x
  7. 01:46:665 (2,3) - Since the 3 is a bit stronger it could be 1/2 slider + circle into the next slider if you want. Just for that extra click emphasis.
  8. 01:49:033 - This not being mapped sounds weird because the whole previous combo followed the vocals pretty strictly.
  9. 02:13:033 (1) - Uhhhh?? Shouldn't this end on red?
  10. 02:30:244 (3) - Pls Slayed wave. :c
  11. 02:51:086 (1) - Like PAN's diff, it sounds better if it starts on the next red.
  12. 03:13:191 (3,4) - Blanket. ;-;

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori
00:46:349 (2) - Why not ctrl+G this? the circular flow from the previous slider would be completely disrupted if you were to let it start from below --- i want the flow break here to show transition out of that section

02:19:823 (2,3,4) - what happened to the flow? o-o i use a similar pattern in the other kiais as well, don't think this one is that bad.

will rework 2nd kiai a bit to make flow more rotational like other parts.

Cerberus Roze wrote:

[Lost Memory]

Hai

00:06:876 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern here thats repeated through the intro i feel you did it back to front, i feel every white tick that has that strong drum sound and thumping drum sound should have a slider and everything else should be just a circle, its awkward just having 1/1 notes there
i feel filling out the map more adds a lot and makes it less boring, and if your trying to undermap because the song is "calm" i guess i dont think that really works because its really awkward, heres an example of how i think the rhythm could be mapped better if you are unsure on what i mean


00:27:402 (3) - also here, more awkward pauses, such a good spot to add a slider to fill out the map till the next beat or what ever you are mapping to


00:32:297 (2) - this note ends on a strong beat? its confusing what your mapping to here so idk LOL
those sliders are on guitar notes.

00:47:612 (3) - after every white tick here add slider for better feel (to fill it out really) then maybe stack the circles untill this point 00:51:718 (1) - and make jumps for that, mainly to make it stand out because its different to the rest of that section

00:57:718 (2) - theres a few spots like this where you dont have a slider on strong sound, im assuming your trying to prioritize the guitar here too? either way make sure you put a slider to put emphasis on whats being mapped because i cant tell 00:57:876 (3) - is on a vocal

01:17:454 - in the chorus there are a lot of sliders ending on strong notes and circles where sliders should be, i think you should prioritize the drums then when it fits do an extra long slider or stack or something to put emphasis on vocals. to me atleast it seems like your putting vocals first which is fine it works but maybe another way is better nah i'd prefer following vocals in kiai to make it different from the drum focused other parts.

the intro rhythms are purely drum focused trying to create contrast between 1/2 and 1/1 spacing. adding in filler slider ends is not gonna help with that idea.

;o nice song and map good luck! hope i was helpful owo

also quick question, mind if i do a GD? i like this song o.o, will probably be 5.5-6* max if your ok with that, i understand if your not interested ;p
thanks for modding. i'm not looking for more GDs because i want my map to be the highest diff in the set. i also don't think this song supports higher difficulties very well.


Hobbes2 wrote:

NM = no mod, so there is no mod here sorry

dont forget to not kds this lol

[General]

Fix tags
do hitsounds

ya

[Collab Normal]

combo colors. Also, go through and be consistent with your NCs. I mentioned specifically complicated ones (I guess), but you should really be consistent with how often you put your NCs. Right now it varies between every two measure and every measure all over the place.

00:19:033 (4,2) - this kind of overlap is pretty poo for a normal. Fixing this requires moving stuff around but I think you should.
00:21:876 (1) - NC should be on 00:22:033 (2) - instead
00:23:139 (1) - Remove NC and move it to 00:24:086 (3) - to be consistent with your NC every 2 measures pattern
00:24:086 (3) - For rhythm purposes I'd shorten this to a 1/1 slider and make 00:24:560 - clickable. If you apply the above NC suggestion, put the NC on 00:24:560 - instead.
00:46:665 (3,1,2) - Eh..would prefer if you stack 2 under 3's tail it's my style
01:00:402 - shouldnt really be clickable compared to 01:00:244, which is the more important guitar sound and drum.
01:06:876 (5,2) - Yucky overlap it's my style
01:11:139 - Circle for vocal? not that important imo and also not my part
01:10:033 (1,2) - If you try to blanket these it would look way better. Note that if you apply the above it would affect this entirely because of DS
01:23:297 (2) - Don't like this, cuts over a strong vocal on 01:24:086 - and forces you to skip another vocal on 01:24:402 -
01:27:560 (1) - Hm...Jumps in normals are okay I guess but this one's kinda bad because it makes the 3/2 gap harder to read.
01:50:139 (5) - More appropriate rhythm would be 1/2 slider into 1/1 slider on 01:50:454. 01:51:086 - can be a circle then, and you'd still be following vocals while making sure the right sounds are emphasized.
02:00:559 (1) - Shorten to the red tick, then add a 1/1 slider on 02:01:349 to capture the vocals better. think this one sounds fine
02:07:981 - no kiai? ?

Hard to mod this because the rhythm selections felt kinda random. Sometimes you guys would map vocals, sometimes ignore strong vocals, I couldn't tell when you'd do which and why. Maybe it's because a collab? idk. Feel like you guys could go through and be more consistent with that.
yeah i'll go through and make it a bit more consistent, definitely agree
[Advanced]

There's a big flaw in this openings' aesthetics (and I guess for the other slow parts too), and it's that because of the DS you chose, 1/2 gaps sometimes touch and sometimes do not. Example would be 00:27:086 (2,3) - vs 00:28:033 (4,1). This is actually really noticeable, and the easiest way to fix this is to either raise or decrease the DS by like .05.

Also, clean up your combos

00:41:297 (2,3,4,1) - Make a square, so that 00:41:297 (2,1) - aren't so close to touching.
00:42:718 - high pitched sound in the melody here makes me think it should be clickable. You could convert 00:42:560 (2) - to two circles. Same for 00:43:981 -
01:01:191 - new guitar introduced, so I suggest making this clickable vocals focused, ignored everything else.
01:33:560 (3) - i was memeing about the "ah ah" thing in my shitmod but here i actually do think they should be clickable
01:36:876 (2,3,4) - equal distance between 2, 3's head, and 4 for aesthetics
01:57:402 (1,2,3) - The new slow section hasn't even started yet, so don't reduce the DS yet
01:58:033 (3) - NC
02:48:402 (2) - ctrl+right once to make the stack look better (so its +4,+4 instead of +3,+4)


on the new RC its a guideline for 1/2 stacks in Hard Maps to not perfect stack, but to stack normally. you could lowkey circumvent this by asking nao to call his advanced a hard and to call this diff a light insane 👀im renaming this spread into cup salad plattern rain overdose deluge of memories anyway x d


I'd mod the rest but im lazy and I don't like the song too much, so maybe I'll come back and mod the harder diffs later. Good luck!
thanks for the actual mod, helpful.


Mir wrote:

Hi. I'm a masochist!

[ General]
  1. You have inconsistent timing, tags, and creator throughout your set. Double check them. it's my style
  2. Combo colors on the Easy amd Normal aren't set, is that intentional? it's my style
  3. Advanced has dupe timing points at 01:14:928, Normal at 02:07:981, it's my style
  4. Only OD 8.3 on 5* :thinking: it's my style

[ Lost Memory]
  1. 02:47:769 (6) - Unsnapped slider end. it's my style
  2. 00:08:139 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern flows differently from all the other ones for some reason. The others have flow parallel to the slider it starts from yet this one is perpendicular. it's my style
  3. 00:15:718 (1,2) - Could be cool to actually stack these cuz you get emphasis and lower spacing, which is what you seem to want here. it's my style
  4. 00:28:033 (4) - Nice stack lol. it's my style
  5. 00:36:560 (2) - This skips all the stuff going on on the white tick: vocals, the woosh sound, and the drums, and lands on a blue with noting on it. ._. I would make a kickslider on the white but that's personal preference, the thing that bugs me is you basically skip a strong lead-in beat I guess to emphasize the next red tick? You can do that in other ways and still keeping the white clickable or at least on a slider end. it's my style
  6. 01:00:244 (2,3,4) - I think ctrl+g this rhythm would make more of the guitar clickable and would play more fun tbh. it's my style
  7. 01:17:297 (4,5,1) - I think stacking this would give more emphasis. The way it plays now is too flowy imo, and the sound is really strong so some harsher emphasis is justified. it's my style
  8. 01:23:139 (4) - This could be two 1/2 sliders. I'm not really sure why it's 1/1 in the first place really. Vocal starts on the head and starts on the end and you skip a drum in the middle but nowhere else do you ever do this. You seem to be fine with mapping 1/1 vocals as 1/2 sliders at 01:21:244 (1,2,3,4) - anyways. it's my style
  9. 01:33:718 (4,1) - Ctrl+G'ing this would make more of the vocals clickable and generally feels better to play - unless you're following drums. it's my style
  10. 01:46:981 (3) - Could use an NC since this slowdown is pretty unexpected. At least it was to me. Especially considering there's a spaced 1/4 gap from the slider end, could be easier to read if NC'd. it's my style 00:56:454 (3) -
  11. 01:49:981 (4) - Could be two circles for vocals while 01:49:191 (1) - could be two circles for guitar. Either works for more click emphasis on the sounds you might be mapping to. it's my style
  12. 01:51:086 (3) - For guitar could also be two circles. Same for 01:52:191 (1) - unless you want to map this vocal, which tbh doesn't really transition too well since you map vocals only with this slider then follow drums and guitar again after. it's my style
  13. 01:52:823 (4) - Pretty strong note to not NC. It marks the halfway point of the section if you look at the bookmarks you put and that note is usually very strong. it's my style
  14. 01:55:823 (2) - Mapping this kick on a slider end is kind if weird considering all the other important drum sounds in this combo are clickable. It also creates ambiguity as to what you're following since it could be either drums or guitar. it's my style
  15. 02:00:560 (4) - Strong note with no emphasis or even an NC. Just a slight spacing increase would work. it's my style
  16. 02:14:928 (3,4) - Could make this a slightly curved vertical slider so that click emphasis on vocals is better on 02:15:244 (5,6). Since 3 and 4 don't have distinct sounds (only 3 starts on vocal and 4 doesn't have anything important on it) I don't really think they should be mapped as circles, while 5 and 6 do have distinct vocals yet don't have much click emphasis. it's my style
  17. 02:27:244 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - This is really sharp and uncomfortable for only a drumroll. In other places you didn't map it with such a high amount of uncomfortable flow, so maybe make this a bit more comfortable? Just a bit. it's my style
  18. 02:45:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Sudden spacing increase? I mean the vocals come in sure but they do at many other times in the map and you don't increase spacing like this. I think this stream should just be constant DS. it's my style


[ Advanced]


  • First off the DS is so close that it create REALLY close overlaps that are like barely there but it's super triggering can you like icrease DS slightly by 0.1x in the slow parts?

  1. 00:29:612 (4) - Shouldn't this be NC? :thinking: it's my style
  2. 01:01:981 (4) - Could be two circles for the snares. it's my style
  3. 01:03:244 (3) - This could be two circles like you did for 01:04:507 (3,4) - since the click emphasis would be a bit better with the second one. it's my style
  4. 01:25:823 (3,1,2) - Could be more visually consistent in spacing. it's my style
  5. 01:34:823 (4) - Also would probably be cooler as two circles cuz there are distinct sounds there. it's my style
  6. 01:35:770 (3,4) - Ctrl+G'ing this makes more sense to me actually since the reverse has more of the same type of vocal on it... uh.. you know what I mean? It's really hard to explain. x.x it's my style
  7. 01:46:665 (2,3) - Since the 3 is a bit stronger it could be 1/2 slider + circle into the next slider if you want. Just for that extra click emphasis. it's my style
  8. 01:49:033 - This not being mapped sounds weird because the whole previous combo followed the vocals pretty strictly. it's my style
  9. 02:13:033 (1) - Uhhhh?? Shouldn't this end on red? it's my style
  10. 02:30:244 (3) - Pls Slayed wave. :c it's my style
  11. 02:51:086 (1) - Like PAN's diff, it sounds better if it starts on the next red. it's my style
  12. 03:13:191 (3,4) - Blanket. ;-; it's my style

Good luck!
very subjective mod tbh, i hope in future attempts you can look to mapper's reasoning rather than just your own
Voli
[General]

  1. Why are so many of the strongest beats on red ticks? Is it the song fuckin with the downbeat or idk cuz this just seems weird on red ticks 02:43:506 - 02:44:769 - etc.
  2. Offset on Hard seems fucked, adjust it according to the rest of the diffs


[Akitoshi's Easy]

  1. 00:08:139 (3) - maybe make this two sliders aswell to match consistency with 00:10:665 (3,4) - (right now that is the only one using two sliders)
  2. 00:20:454 (2) - Why not an extended slider until 00:21:402 - to match this hold vocal? Can easily be done imo
  3. 00:25:507 (2) - ^
  4. 01:19:981 (1,2,3) - https://voli.s-ul.eu/lgDIUjvF.png how about arranging the pattern like this gives it a nice triangular structure and makes 01:19:981 (1) - flow more naturally into 01:20:770 (2) -
  5. 02:28:823 (2,3,1) - it's kinda a bummer that 02:28:191 (1) - doesnt match those 120 rotates, can't you find a way to make it match this 02:28:981 (2,1) - pattern?
  6. 02:43:507 - hmm why didn't you start mapping here? seems more logical because the transition from calmer part happens here rather than 02:45:876 -
  7. 02:46:665 (2,3,1) - imo a rhythm like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/KeXjHpvd.png reflects this part better because the strongest vocal on 02:46:981 - will be clickable and this beat here 02:47:297 - won't be skipped over.
  8. 03:19:033 (1) - perhaps silence this spinner end, its quite a loud sound on a fadeout.



[Collab Normal]

  1. 00:19:507 (1) - hm maybe dont use a curved here, theyre kinda overused here already so straight slider would add some variety
  2. 00:27:086 (1) - why aren't the 1/4 mapped here 00:30:876 (4,5) - but here they are?
  3. 00:35:928 (4,5) - ye i dont like blanket mods but this 1 is too obv \o/
  4. 00:46:665 (3) - reverse? the skipped beat here sounds a bit off
  5. 00:47:139 (1,2,3) - eh these aesthetics tho, either remove curve from 00:47:139 (1) - or 00:48:402 (3) - , this doesnt look nice unless you rotate 00:48:402 (3) - by like 45 degrees and adjust 00:49:033 (4) - accordingly
  6. 00:56:139 (4) - if you insist on using another curved slider here at least make it the same as 00:55:191 (2) - (tho i'd suggest just not using a curved, a bit of variety doesnt hurt and there are so many damn curved sliders in this diff already lmao)
  7. 01:11:297 (2,3) - stack these properly
  8. 01:14:928 (1,2,3) - if you could find a way to center this symmetrical pattern it would look tons better
  9. 01:22:507 (1) - make this slider parallel to 01:21:244 (3) - ? https://voli.s-ul.eu/V3hPcILN.png
  10. 01:30:876 (2) - maybe a double on this sliderhead to make both vocals clickable just like you did for example here 01:35:770 (5,6) -
  11. 01:57:876 (4) - perhaps move this note to the red tick because that is where the 'sayonara' vocal starts. you mapped to vocals almost entirely in this section so imo that would be fitting
  12. 02:21:244 (2) - same here, note on red tick and slider at 02:21:402 - probably matches the rhythm better here.
  13. 02:26:928 (4,1) - idk this overlap you can easily avoid it. how about this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/NkQEu7lV.png you'll have to adjust 02:28:981 (2) - though if you apply.
  14. 02:43:507 -same as in Akitoshi's diff, why doesnt the break end here? 02:45:876 - seems such a random spot to resume mapping
  15. 03:16:191 (1,3) - omg where were these kinda patterns all the map all i saw was curved sliders LOOOL



[Polka's Hard]

  1. yo ur offset fix itttt \o/
  2. 00:20:770 (4,5) - not perfectly symmetrical? recopypaste 00:20:770 (4) -
  3. 00:22:033 (1) - I feel like this slider sounds better ending here 00:22:033 (1) - on a vocal, the red tick sounds a bit random
  4. 00:32:060 (8) - are you sure you dont just wanna bring this to red tick? this is pretty unexpected for hard-level players
  5. 00:43:191 (4,5) - Holding the momentun with a stack here plays counterintuitive because of the strong sound on 00:43:349 (5) - , perhaps space them out just as you did in these instances: 00:44:612 (1) - 00:45:875 (1) - etc
  6. 00:47:138 (1,2) - bring them a bit closer to each other for better aesthetics like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/s822SKTl.png rather than having them barely touch each other
  7. 01:09:402 - wouldn't you want this strong sound clickable? just like you did here 01:08:138 (2) - 01:10:665 (2) - 01:11:928 (5) -
  8. 01:27:086 - huh where did the hitsound volume go D: why? lool
  9. 01:35:770 (3,4,5) - ctrl+j 01:36:402 (5) - and blanket it like this? 01:36:244 (4,5) - flows more naturally that way https://voli.s-ul.eu/A96WtlJ7.png
  10. 02:16:033 (2,4) - are they intentionally not stacked?
  11. 02:26:928 (5,6,7,8,9) - why is 02:27:402 - not clickable and why does the triple only start 02:27:560 (7,8) - here? that seems really weird to me, the correct rhythm should be this https://voli.s-ul.eu/IyYxVk5M.png
  12. 03:19:033 (1) - silence spinner end?



[Lost Memory]

  1. 00:07:823 (4) - space this one more cuz strong clap? would play more intuitive if there was a spacing difference from 00:07:192 (2,3) -
  2. 00:09:086 (4) - ^ well actually goes for all of those in this section if you apply them (i'd do it i mean its an extra cmon xd)
  3. 00:11:928 (1,2,1) - huh why does spacing suddenly increase here and then decrease 00:12:560 (2,3) - here again wh, idk I'd go through the spacing structure in this small part again cuz its pretty all over the place
  4. 00:20:771 (3,4) - wouldn't you do something like this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/spVJhptp.png it seems more fitting to me because you'll have the high pitched instrument on the downbeat 00:21:402 - clickable aswell and 00:21:718 (1) - won't seem so forced anymore, putting more emphasis on 00:21:718 (1,2,3) -
  5. 00:26:928 - skipping this vocal feels kinda off since you followed it all the time before. if you put a low spaced note here 00:26:928 (6) -, 00:27:086 (1,2,3) - will have more emphasis aswell without this break
  6. 00:37:823 (3,4,5,1) - i suggest adjusting the spacing so that 00:38:139 (5,1) - has the highest spacing out of these jumps because 00:38:297 (1) - is the strongest beat, just as you did here 00:39:086 (3,4,5,1) -
  7. 00:57:402 (2) - curve a bit more to blanket 00:57:244 (1) - better
  8. 00:58:033 - actually why is this strong downbeat covered by a sliderend hmm https://voli.s-ul.eu/ZFUzcnY3.png maybe this is a better rhythm
  9. 01:01:191 (1,2) - i feel this is a bit underwhelming maybe increase spacing like so https://voli.s-ul.eu/0ovCndxC.png for better emphasis on the guitar? or whatever melodic instrument that is lol
  10. 01:17:454 (1,2,3) - this angling plays kinda forced, i'd do something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/Zlgvmc1r.png but you'd have to adjust the pattern after that aswell.
  11. 01:25:507 (2,6) - are they not stacked intentionally?
  12. 01:26:928 (3) - perhaps move this a little up so 01:26:928 (3,4,5) - this angle is less sharp
  13. 01:33:718 (4) - ctrl g?
  14. 01:34:665 (4,5,6) - i feel like 01:34:823 (5,6) - should be more spaced because of the clap on 6, instead of 01:34:665 (4,5) -
  15. 01:35:139 (1,3) - stack them properly
  16. 01:43:191 (2,3,4) - rather than spacing them equally, what about something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/BAarjxbV.png
  17. 01:47:770 (1) - if u gonna curve it u might aswell curve it more to blanket with 01:47:770 (1,2) - :p
  18. 01:49:981 (4) - 2 notes? slider feels kinda underwhelming as you use a lot of short sliders here already and the drums get stronger
  19. 02:07:981 (1,2,3,4) - I think a better rhythm would be this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/6rjOVAOe.png try it out. you don't skip this downbeat 02:08:770 - like that
  20. 02:17:770 (5,6,7) - angling plays meh with a triple there, perhaps do this https://voli.s-ul.eu/xn0bcyWT.png (rotate 02:17:928 (6,7) - by about -25)
  21. 02:23:612 (2) - ctrl g?
  22. 02:28:191 (1,4) - stack em properly unless its intentional ofc
  23. 02:43:191 - omg u ended the break here correctly!!1!111 why isnt dis in other diffs xd pls force your gders thx
  24. 03:00:244 (2,4) - blanket lol
  25. 03:18:954 (1) - silence spinner end just like i suggested in other diffs


cool set! alright gl \o/
Sinnoh
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Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

Voli wrote:

[General]

  1. Why are so many of the strongest beats on red ticks? Is it the song fuckin with the downbeat or idk cuz this just seems weird on red ticks 02:43:506 - 02:44:769 - etc. i mean that's what the song has to offer lol.. pretty common technique for songs.
  2. Offset on Hard seems fucked, adjust it according to the rest of the diffs



[Collab Normal]

  1. 00:19:507 (1) - hm maybe dont use a curved here, theyre kinda overused here already so straight slider would add some variety it's actually my style here
  2. 00:27:086 (1) - why aren't the 1/4 mapped here 00:30:876 (4,5) - but here they are? changed the other 3
  3. 00:35:928 (4,5) - ye i dont like blanket mods but this 1 is too obv \o/ it's her style
  4. 00:46:665 (3) - reverse? the skipped beat here sounds a bit off
  5. 00:47:139 (1,2,3) - eh these aesthetics tho, either remove curve from 00:47:139 (1) - or 00:48:402 (3) - , this doesnt look nice unless you rotate 00:48:402 (3) - by like 45 degrees and adjust 00:49:033 (4) - accordingly i think this looks fine
  6. 00:56:139 (4) - if you insist on using another curved slider here at least make it the same as 00:55:191 (2) - (tho i'd suggest just not using a curved, a bit of variety doesnt hurt and there are so many damn curved sliders in this diff already lmao)
  7. 01:11:297 (2,3) - stack these properly
  8. 01:14:928 (1,2,3) - if you could find a way to center this symmetrical pattern it would look tons better
  9. 01:22:507 (1) - make this slider parallel to 01:21:244 (3) - ? https://voli.s-ul.eu/V3hPcILN.png
  10. 01:30:876 (2) - maybe a double on this sliderhead to make both vocals clickable just like you did for example here 01:35:770 (5,6) -
  11. 01:57:876 (4) - perhaps move this note to the red tick because that is where the 'sayonara' vocal starts. you mapped to vocals almost entirely in this section so imo that would be fitting
  12. 02:21:244 (2) - same here, note on red tick and slider at 02:21:402 - probably matches the rhythm better here.
  13. 02:26:928 (4,1) - idk this overlap you can easily avoid it. how about this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/NkQEu7lV.png you'll have to adjust 02:28:981 (2) - though if you apply. think this is fine
  14. 02:43:507 -same as in Akitoshi's diff, why doesnt the break end here? 02:45:876 - seems such a random spot to resume mapping
  15. 03:16:191 (1,3) - omg where were these kinda patterns all the map all i saw was curved sliders LOOOL not my part lol



[Lost Memory]

  1. 00:07:823 (4) - space this one more cuz strong clap? would play more intuitive if there was a spacing difference from 00:07:192 (2,3) -
  2. 00:09:086 (4) - ^ well actually goes for all of those in this section if you apply them (i'd do it i mean its an extra cmon xd)
  3. 00:11:928 (1,2,1) - huh why does spacing suddenly increase here and then decrease 00:12:560 (2,3) - here again wh, idk I'd go through the spacing structure in this small part again cuz its pretty all over the place
    pass spacing is fine.
  4. 00:20:771 (3,4) - wouldn't you do something like this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/spVJhptp.png it seems more fitting to me because you'll have the high pitched instrument on the downbeat 00:21:402 - clickable aswell and 00:21:718 (1) - won't seem so forced anymore, putting more emphasis on 00:21:718 (1,2,3) - yup
  5. 00:26:928 - skipping this vocal feels kinda off since you followed it all the time before. if you put a low spaced note here 00:26:928 (6) -, 00:27:086 (1,2,3) - will have more emphasis aswell without this break yup
  6. 00:37:823 (3,4,5,1) - i suggest adjusting the spacing so that 00:38:139 (5,1) - has the highest spacing out of these jumps because 00:38:297 (1) - is the strongest beat, just as you did here 00:39:086 (3,4,5,1) -
  7. 00:57:402 (2) - curve a bit more to blanket 00:57:244 (1) - better 1 is not suppose to blanket 2
  8. 00:58:033 - actually why is this strong downbeat covered by a sliderend hmm https://voli.s-ul.eu/ZFUzcnY3.png maybe this is a better rhythm
  9. 01:01:191 (1,2) - i feel this is a bit underwhelming maybe increase spacing like so https://voli.s-ul.eu/0ovCndxC.png for better emphasis on the guitar? or whatever melodic instrument that is lol
  10. 01:17:454 (1,2,3) - this angling plays kinda forced, i'd do something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/Zlgvmc1r.png but you'd have to adjust the pattern after that aswell. i use this patterning quite extensively, the back and forth forced movement is something i want to introduce.
  11. 01:25:507 (2,6) - are they not stacked intentionally? it's my style
  12. 01:26:928 (3) - perhaps move this a little up so 01:26:928 (3,4,5) - this angle is less sharp
  13. 01:33:718 (4) - ctrl g? back and forth movement
  14. 01:34:665 (4,5,6) - i feel like 01:34:823 (5,6) - should be more spaced because of the clap on 6, instead of 01:34:665 (4,5) -
  15. 01:35:139 (1,3) - stack them properly
  16. 01:43:191 (2,3,4) - rather than spacing them equally, what about something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/BAarjxbV.png i don't want the effect this creates of stopping on 3 compared to snapping to it after the slider end, though i may reconsider this.
  17. 01:47:770 (1) - if u gonna curve it u might aswell curve it more to blanket with 01:47:770 (1,2) - :p same as other time
  18. 01:49:981 (4) - 2 notes? slider feels kinda underwhelming as you use a lot of short sliders here already and the drums get stronger guitar highlight, same as other section.
  19. 02:07:981 (1,2,3,4) - I think a better rhythm would be this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/6rjOVAOe.png try it out. you don't skip this downbeat 02:08:770 - like that
    it used to be this, however i changed them all to slider + circle since that follows the held out vocal better in my opinion, plus it leaves at least one drum sound clickable.
  20. 02:17:770 (5,6,7) - angling plays meh with a triple there, perhaps do this https://voli.s-ul.eu/xn0bcyWT.png (rotate 02:17:928 (6,7) - by about -25)
  21. 02:23:612 (2) - ctrl g? back and forth thing
  22. 02:28:191 (1,4) - stack em properly unless its intentional ofc
  23. 02:43:191 - omg u ended the break here correctly!!1!111 why isnt dis in other diffs xd pls force your gders thx
  24. 03:00:244 (2,4) - blanket lol
  25. 03:18:954 (1) - silence spinner end just like i suggested in other diffs


cool set! alright gl \o/
thanks for the mod, i'll get to yours over the weekend probably.
P A N

Mir wrote:

[ PAN's Insane]
  1. 00:37:823 (4,5,1) - This flow is very harsh compared to the rest of the downbeat emphasis you use at 00:39:087 (4,5,1) - 00:40:349 (4,5,1) - 00:41:612 (4,5,1) - etc etc. Not sure how to go about suggesting a fix since this pattern is pretty core to your local structure lol. it plays fine imo.
  2. 00:53:770 (2,3,4,5,6) - You don't use any patterning like this anywhere else, and these seem to be mapped to the same sounds as other more simple patterns such as 00:50:139 (2,3,4,5) - it's various and it kinda fit with the song imo.
  3. 01:01:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - The guitar is doing a much more interesting rhythm here but you chose to ignore it for the same vocals that have been playing for the last 20 seconds. ._. well, let's try that
  4. 01:30:560 (2) - This note seems too much part of the vocals when it's just a breath in. What would make more sense to me is if it were at the end of 01:30:086 (1) - like this since then the rest of the spoken vocals get more emphasis and distinction. 01:35:612 (2) - Pretty much same with this: note isn't spoken yet is given the same emphasis as all spoken notes in this jump pattern. Applies to other kiais too. will decide
  5. 01:33:876 (5,1) - Ctrl+G this rhythm would follow vocals much better, and since you were content with skipping drums for 01:31:981 (3) - and similar, it would still be rhythmically consistent imo. The rhythm of the rest of the patterning around it seems to follow vocals heavily too, and this one not doing so as well stands out too much. eeee no, current one is more fit imo.
  6. 01:54:560 (2,1) - Blanket. ._. let's leave it like that
  7. 02:51:086 (1) - This sound uhh.. the electric thingy, starts on 02:51:244 - actually, not on 02:51:086. Starting on the vocals and not following them feels very weird. I think it starts here but the fade-in makes you can't hear.

Good luck!
thanks!

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celerih
I think we need to talk about those diff names, because... Just no

From what I understand, the train of thought that lead to this was: Song talks about rain -> Top diff should be called Deluge of memories -> ctb has a diff name called deluge -> use ctb diff names. If I'm wrong please go ahead and correct me, but if I'm not this is such a dumb reasoning. I can understand Rain/Deluge working here, but Cup/Salad/Platter and Overdose have nothing to do with the song.

People use naming schemes from other games, when the song comes from those game, that's obvious. But this song has nothing to do with ctb. This is pretty much the equivalent of using NOVICE, ADVANCED, EXHAUST, INFINITE diff names on an anime tv size. It's unfitting and unrankable.

If you want to use an edgy naming scheme, go ahead. But at least use one that makes even the smallest amount of sense, such as: Cloudy -> Drizzle -> Shower -> Rainfall -> Downpour -> Deluge
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori
thanks for the advice, but i'll stick to more conventionally accepted names here!
_handholding

Naotoshi wrote:

generic
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Kibbleru
m4m

extr
00:15:086 (2,1) - mind the overlapping man
00:16:033 (1,2) - swapping nc wud be better
00:20:139 (2,3,4) - i think it'd be alot cooler if u made antijumps here
00:25:507 (2,3,4) - ^
00:22:033 (3,4,5) - 00:23:139 (1,2,3,4) - why does the spacing get smaller lol
00:31:823 (6,7,1) - this combination looks kinda bad tbh why dont u just autostack
00:49:507 (6) - passive slider :/
00:55:191 (2,1,3) - pls make better triangle these small things make ur map look alot more polished
01:08:455 (4) - NC here man
01:58:981 (4) - ^
01:24:402 (3,4,5,6,1) - honestly flow is not the best here, kinda awkward dropdown from the slider there
01:28:744 (6) - white tick triplets don't play as good, also its not consistent
01:47:612 (1,1) - why do u have to NC twice here
01:49:191 (1,3) - the way u space this part.. try this

PAN
00:11:928 - the increment of the volume decreasing is wayy too much imo, the music doesnt even change that much tbh i would just increment by 5 each time tbh..
00:37:823 (4,1) - maybe nudge the 1 over a bit to avoid the overlap
01:20:454 (2,3) - how bout stack it on the end
01:55:349 (1,2) - a little more spacing wud be nice

polka
00:16:981 - i think if ur just gunna make a long slider section it would be more suitable with SC:1 since ur not focusing on the tick sounds
00:32:138 (1,2) - make the spacing consistent with 00:31:507 (6,7) -
00:35:612 (6,7,8) - u underestimate how hard highly spaced triplets are i think. there isnt a reason to use such high spacing here
01:59:296 (3,4,5) - ^
01:24:086 (6) - even though ur focusing on vocals, i just think its unecessary to skip so many drum sounds over it. you should at least have something on the snare
02:30:717 (1) - u can make this more symmetrical lol
02:55:981 (1) - ^
02:31:981 - i think ur skipping a fairly strong sound here why not just ctrl g the rhythm 02:31:823 (6,7) -

hard
uhh ar 7.5
u dont really need to follow DS that much u can space 00:19:507 (1,2) - out more to avoid the overlapping
00:16:349 (4,5,1) - omg this kind of overlapping is litterally the worst, like when they overlap but just barely ahhhhhhh applies to the entire section
00:52:191 (1,2) - stuff like this is even worse lol ^
00:36:876 - this section i really don't know why the spacing is so small here, its almost as intense as the kiai yet its the same spacing as here 00:26:928 -
00:47:139 - ik ur simplifying rhythm here to map the vocals but it really feels like shit imo lol, even for an easy or normal i wouldn't do something like this. especially how this section ends up being like half hitsounded and half not. seriously change this part lol, i normally don't mind skipping drum sounds but ur even skipping the snares.
also the spacing is litterally where they JUST touch which also is tilting. like even increasing the DS by 0.1 wud be much better
01:07:507 - ^ same
01:58:033 - ^
01:42:718 - 00:28:349 - compare these 2 sections and notice how ur spacing is different..
needs a lil work lol

normal
combo colors?


tbc
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