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Mir
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Mir
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 6:30:25 PM

Artist: ZAQ
Title: Serendipity
Source: フリップフラッパーズ
Tags: flip flappers studio 3hz lantis papika cocona anime opening full version lasse
BPM: 173
Filesize: 8591kb
Play Time: 04:38
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3.28 stars, 708 notes)
  2. Illusory Phenomena (5.37 stars, 1201 notes)
  3. Lasse's Insane (4.68 stars, 962 notes)
  4. Normal (1.96 stars, 488 notes)
Download: ZAQ - Serendipity
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Metadata from Xexxar's set: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/528754
Also: http://zaqzaqzaq.jp/single.html#LACM-14546

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Normal by me
Hard by me
Insane by Lasse
Illusory Phenomena by me.

Renumi's Easy: https://pastebin.com/raw/9U1RZqST
Last edited by Mir , edited 110 times in total.
Vivyanne
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Vivyanne


shitmiss but ur memes
Seijiro
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Seijiro
:thinking:
Mir
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Mir
:thonkong:
Shiirn
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Shiirn
hit me up to refine #fuckthesystem techniques
Nokashi
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Nokashi
good
Lasse
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Lasse
http://puu.sh/upvmx/0a11fc1f33.zip
done, 4.68*
used your hitsounding with some minor changes (mainly some default whistles and muted/lower volume sliderends)
one or two of my hitsound files might get shown as unused but they are all used

consider increasing volume of soft-hitwhistle.wav a bit, it seems pretty quiet
Yukiyo
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Yukiyo

kms
Mir
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Mir
okay time to get mods yay
Nokashi
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Nokashi
As Requested by ma boi mir. Also first

[ General]
  1. normal-sliderslide.wav is unused, so I Guess look into that
  2. Hard has 2 inherited points in the same tick here 03:37:756 -

[ Normal]
  1. 00:07:582 (2,4) - what a way to start a mod. You could make it so they dont touch each other, it isnt that neat visually speaking
  2. 00:09:663 (1,2,3) - Im not sure what this is following. 00:10:357 (2) - this would work so much better if it was either here 00:10:183 - or here 00:10:530 - .It feels like you chose the weakest out of all the available beats to make clickable
  3. 00:12:958 - The fact that this doesnt have a circle slightly throws me off, since this beat is on the sound the last slider was focused on
  4. 00:15:212 (1,2,3,4) - Similar to my point above, this is a rather questionable rhythm choice in my eyes, since emphasis is put on weaker beats rather than stronger ones. Up to you what to do with this tho. Probably this will appear later in the map as well, so i will refrain from pointing out as by the time you get there you will have already given your reasoning behind this or changed accordingly
  5. 00:23:016 - I Feel like you should follow your previous pattern ( this one 00:21:455 (2,3) - ) here as well for a more consistent rhythm
  6. Note: since the same thing happened here 00:25:270 (5,6,7) - i thought about it being intentional on your part for variety. However I Will stay adamant on the fact that its such a big contrast to rather similar expression of the song that it doesnt feel that consistent
  7. 00:27:351 - Circle here maybe? It's pretty strong
  8. 00:41:050 (3) - slider end is way stronger here. Maybe ctrlg the rhythm? like this?
  9. 00:53:016 (4) - I Would make this a 1/2 slider as well, fits well as a sound with the following 2 sliders and would play nicer
  10. 00:57:871 (3) - Whoops DS inconsistency here
  11. 01:01:686 (5,6,1) - This is only time you have used this in the kiai, and also for a sound that has been expressed differently numerous times in the same kiai. Consequently, it feels pretty disconnected from the overall patterning of the kiai and doesnt and on top of that it doesnt reflect the music that well imo
  12. 01:07:235 (4,1,2) - Even though i really like what you did with the following gradual DS increases, I'm rather skeptical about this 0.90x DS decrease for these circles since this is still the kiai and lowering kills the purpose of increasing it to 1.00x DS at the start of the kiai. I Would keep it at a healthy 1.00x DS as well
  13. 01:17:640 (3) - You can make this curvier so it stands out more
  14. 01:21:802 (1,2) - Why dont you express this rhythm like you did this one 01:20:415 (1,2) - . Honestly that overlap doesnt look that nice and really doesnt fit the whole vocal intensity that is going on. Suggestion: you could probably increase DS to 1.10x DS or something for this part, since its basically this 01:20:415 (1,2) - but with more intensity on vocals
  15. 01:27:351 (1,2,3) - First time up until this point that this rhythm was expressed with sharp red anchors on sliders. In my opinion it doesnt fit with the whole theme you have already introduced in this certain part of the song. also that overlap 01:28:045 (2,3) - gosh isnt it too much
  16. 01:37:409 (1) - Fix stack plEz
  17. 01:40:183 (1) - ^
  18. 02:08:623 (6) - Use a 1/2 slider like you did in the last buildup here 00:53:709 (6) - to be consistent
  19. 02:22:149 (4,1,2) - As mentioned before, Increase DS to 1.00x
  20. 03:14:866 (6,1) - Not lined up correctly. Get nitpicked
  21. 03:42:264 (4) - Should be 1/2 slider as well, pointed it out 2 times before on the same pattern, you get the idea
  22. 04:11:571 (2,1) - I would readjust this in a way that the 2 insnt that overlapped as well. You have done this before after the first kiai. My same reasoning stands here as well

[ Hard]
  1. 00:03:420 (3) - Maybe you can curve this as well to be more consistent with slider shapes in this section
  2. 00:15:212 (1,2) - Will look neater if the sliderends didnt touch
  3. 00:17:813 - You could make this a triple instead, It wont really add to the difficulty since this is directly before a spinner so the player still has time to cool off, so to speak, after hitting that, so it wont add that much to beatmap strain
  4. 00:23:016 (3) - This reverse slider overshadows a really strong beat here 00:23:189 - . I Would go for a circle -> 1/2 slider instead to emphasize all the strong sounds
  5. 00:28:738 (4,5) - this might cause some reasing issues, since most of the time you use this pattern, its in a circlular flow manner so the pattern is followed naturally and the stack below the sliderend doesnt really matter. However in my opinion here the (5) should be differentiated in terms of placement so its not under the sliderend
  6. 00:31:860 - Why the sudden jump from 1.40x to 1.50x DS? Feels really uncalled for
  7. I'm really confused with what you are going for here, 00:34:634 (1,2,3) - suddenly the DS Drops to 1.40x DS again then increases to 1.50x as well. This distance spacing change and why you did it is a mystery to me
  8. 00:40:183 (1) - Stack
  9. 00:40:877 (3) - The 2 ticks that are not clickable have way stronger beats than the one clickable. You should adjust this accordingly
  10. 00:46:426 (2) - Place the red anchor more to the middle for a cleaner shape
  11. 00:48:160 (5) - i would personally place this close to the next slider, since its a different spacing snap and its expressed in almost the same way 1/2 snap is expressed
  12. 00:53:363 (3) - DS is a bit off here but too much
  13. 01:06:542 (1) - Feels really off that this isnt a hold note since its the downbeat as well, you could try a 1/2 slider here instead
  14. 01:11:397 (2) - Make this a reverse as well for consistency with previous measures
  15. 01:19:027 (1) - I Would make the curves more noticeable, (which will also blanket 01:18:854 (7) - so thats that)
  16. 01:29:779 (3) - only time you didnt map a beat in this part up until now. I Believe a 1/2 would be so much better
  17. 01:35:675 (1) - Only a visual thing, but you could make the intial curve less sharp so it looks more natural?
  18. 01:40:183 (1,2) - these overlaps make the pattern feel really cluttered
  19. 01:44:866 (4) - Stack
  20. 01:45:386 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern feels incredibly underwhelming, throughout this map up until this point you showed that you freely used 1/4 reverses when the song asked for it, yet you didnt do it here when it was apparent that the 1/4 beat was more prominent
  21. 02:03:073 (5) - same applies to my previous point about differentiating 1/3 snap in terms of distance
  22. 02:26:311 (2) - Should be a reverse as well
  23. 03:21:629 (2) - Blanket
  24. 03:37:409 (5) - At this point, you know what i think of this, since i mentioned it 2 times already. Up to you to decide
  25. 03:46:079 (1) - expressing 1/4 snap with the almost the spacing you used to 1/2 rhythms is a no go in my eyes, fix the DS like you did here 02:55:790 (5) -
  26. 01:08:276 (1,1,1) - , 02:23:190 (1,1,1) - 03:57:525 (1,1,1) - Only noticed this after looking at last chorus, but there buildups are consistent in spacing, you see this for yourself. The DS increases in first 2 kiais are really not that gradual as the one in the the last kiai. You shoud adjust this
  27. 04:25:444 (2) - Blanket

[ Lasse's Insane]
  1. 00:04:461 (3) - stack
  2. 00:10:877 (1,2) - Is NC necessary? You could remove the nc and move this NC 00:11:397 (1) - to here 00:11:224 (6) -
  3. 00:23:363 (1) - Feels really off that a strong white tick is on a reverse tick, generally this slider doesnt reflect the music that well
  4. 00:26:137 (1) - ^
  5. 00:34:287 (4,5) - I Would expect more movement here since you've never stacked 1/2 rhythm up until that point and song definitely supports more movement
  6. 00:47:813 (1,1,1,1) - I Dont understand why you NC'ed so much here. For reference the Extra utilizes
  7. 00:51:108 (3) - stack
  8. 01:06:368 (3) - You could take advantage of the big white tick here and the unused red tick afterwards
  9. 01:39:316 (1) - Uneeded NC in my opinion
  10. 01:45:386 (1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - Uneeded NCs here as well in my opinion, it would play the same without them and there isnt anything reading intensive in order for them to assist the player.
  11. 02:19:200 (4) - Stack
  12. 02:59:605 (1) - stack
  13. 03:11:744 (2,3,4) - First time you express this rhythm in that way 3 minutes into the map. It can throw people off so i dont really recommend it. I Would go for a simpler rhythm like a circle here 03:11:744 - followd by a triple or something along the lines of that
  14. As a side note: i saw that you consistently use this pattern after that timestamp. I Do believe that you could go for something simpler since this is a completely new way to handle 1/4 snap in this map and its doesnt bode that well with spacing emphasis since the 1/4 snap before is so drastically different than the 1/4 after
  15. 03:26:137 (1,2,3,1) - On the contrary this is pretty uncalled for by the music and its the only time you use this pattern in this 'DnB' section
  16. 03:38:970 (1) - stack
  17. 03:45:906 (1,2) - I Could be deaf but i dont hear anything on the blue tick that directly connects with it being a beginning to the following drum stream
  18. After looking at 3rd kiai 02:13:651 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern is drastically different than the way this part of the song is expressed in the first and third kiai, i would suggest doing something similar to these kiais here as well
  19. Other than that 3rd kiai looks really clean

[ Illusory Pphenomena]
  1. Basically some extra notes, since i pointed out some stuff in IRC already
  2. 00:07:235 (2) - you could move this to X:401|y:154 for a neater and more fitting placement like this (namely that nice little triangle thats created with the objects)
  3. 00:10:530 (4) - Stack
  4. 00:20:761 (1,2) - there is such a contrast of sound intesity here it feels like the (2) is so overwhelmed by the previous beat and the result doesnt bode well with the structure and the transition to this calmer section. I Would suggest making 00:20:761 (1) - a 1/2 slider preferrably blanketing 00:21:455 (4) -
  5. 00:24:750 (1) - less curve for a better blanket
  6. 00:30:299 (7) - I Would actually buff this jump, seems pretty off that the spacing is so small and then it builds up again
  7. 00:49:548 (3) - i think this stack is off
  8. 00:56:657 (5) - I Wouldnt say it would be fitting to have a full stop of flow here, yet its not wrong either...maybe make (4) a 1/1 slider?
  9. 01:07:929 (1) - Try moving it somewhere along the lines of x:242|y:378 so the jump angle from the kickslider isnt that sharp
  10. 01:21:802 (1,2) - i think ive mentioned this in irc but you should either nerf this or buff this 01:21:455 (1,2) - because as it is now these strings of jumps dont express the gradual buildup of the vocals since the first set is drastically smaller than the following 4 jumps, which by sets of 2 are pretty similar
  11. 01:34:634 (2) - You could move it down a bit to avoid this 'not overlap with sliderhead but pretty damn close' feel
  12. 01:45:386 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'm really skeptical about this since it can execute something way more than following the 1/4 beat thats being provided. Were you to only place kicksliders in these beats 01:45:733 - 01:45:906 - 01:46:079 - and circles in the rest of the beats it would put some meaning in the use of kicksliders, since they would be supporting a more distinct sound than the other circles, which would represent the constant 1/4 drum
  13. 02:17:120 (5) - Stack
  14. 02:22:669 (9) - Deserves way less intensity that whats being given, and really underwhelm the following downbeat. I Would adjust emphasis here so its more towards 02:22:842 (1) - and less towards 02:22:669 (9) -
  15. 02:47:467 (2,3) - ctrlg with some spacing adjustments could work better since its a 1/2 distance and more emphasis will also be put on the following downbeat
  16. 02:50:588 (1,2) - pls fix this overlap
  17. 03:19:374 (8) - stack
  18. 03:28:392 (2) - Thats a pretty big jump spike when you look in the previous jump spacing placements in retrospect. You should nerf
  19. 03:55:617 (6,1) - I dont think you have executed this idea before and honestly i think its pretty late into the map to introduce something different because it will be inconsistent with previous kiais. I Would go for a normal triple here
  20. 04:08:276 (1) - stack sliderend with (11) please
  21. 04:22:496 (2) - increase the spacing with previous slider to have a more smooth transition with next object since the 2 spacings as they are now are heavily contrasted
  22. 04:34:287 (1,2) - I Feel like something like this would encourage a more natural movement

I Really like this set and i doubt it would have any problems getting ranked sooner or later.
You can always pm me if you have any questions regarding my mod
Good Luck!~
Last edited by Nokashi , edited 2 times in total.
Renumi
907 posts
Joined July 2012
Renumi
no
Renumi
907 posts
Joined July 2012
Renumi
too picky wew
im so bad at modding your maps they're too good for me inb4 90% deny 9% maybe 1% (´・◡・｀)

[General]
  1. het

[Hard]
ye strong sounds on sliderends is what mostly bugs me xd
  1. 00:06:368 (4,5) - swap positions? if not, please give me your reasoning as to why this is the rhythm you used here
  2. 00:04:981 (3,1) - maybe blanket for a triangle?
  3. 00:08:796 (3) - no audible (or very strong in comparison to 00:09:143 - ); sound on sliderhead as opposed to sliderend, maybe replace with some notes or two 1/2 sliders
  4. 00:11:397 (2,3) - i'd make 3 straight; accommodates for better flow i think; not that big of a problem to change since i heavily doubt players are going to follow the full slidertrack to get through the slider lo,
  5. 00:17:120 - only other time where you don't map this super small sound in the intro of the song, i know it's probably for emphasis with the triple, but i'd do something like place a circle which represents intensity fine enough (+ consistency), a silence is good, but not good enough (if intentional)
  6. 00:21:108 (2,1) - parallel for aesthetics?
  7. 00:34:634 (1,2) - place sliderend in middle of the other slider because that overlap kill me inside w
  8. 00:48:507 - such a slow sv change is pretty drastic for a hard, don't you think >.>
  9. 00:58:045 (3,4,5) - this rhythm here kind of bug me personally, since 3 ends on a big white slider and sounds pretty off to me. i'd replace for a note and fixing rhythm ahead too
  10. 01:07:756 (1,2) - i'd reverse nc for emphasis on that "HEY" or "EEE" OR "ye A" sound there (applies for every other part in the song/map that does this as well, could nc both but that'd be too red flaggish, then again those are just my 2 cents)
  11. 01:08:276 (2,3,4,2,3) - why use different rhythms here if it's kinda the same vocal pitch hue
  12. 01:18:334 (5) - that curve is barely noticeable, better to make it straight and parallel with the previous slider maybe?
  13. 01:19:027 (1) - tOO SLOW
  14. 01:19:027 (1) - sliderend could also be clickable as it's the first sound in this new measure (applies for evertyhign else)
  15. 01:27:871 (2,1) - you could move 1 and blanket with 2 c'mon man :<
  16. 01:33:420 (2,1,1,1) - rhythm here might be a bit tricky to play at first, maybe cause of those stacks or smth >.>
  17. 01:38:449 (1) - pretty good, but sliderhead is a bit :thinking:,, i'd simplify to go on the safe side :oko_hand:
  18. 03:04:287 (1) - sounds way too weird for my taste
  19. 03:48:681 (1,2,3) - hitsounds @ here ?
  20. 04:07:930 (6,7,1) - first time you do a stack for this pattern in comparison to 02:33:594 (6,7,1) - and 01:18:681 (6,7,1) -
  21. 04:13:825 (1) - i think this should have some more distance cause of vocal intensity
  22. 04:36:108 (1) - reduce spinner volume instead of just having a 5% at the end? there's a very notable decrease in the song except for that one note in which the spinner lands on, so i'd decrease vlume bit by bit until the end (could place a 40% or something there to accentuate sound mane)
didn't want to point out a lot of stuff at 2 minutes onward since i think everything i wanted to say got said already + trying to avoid a modwall i think
i could only mod hard for today ripe (i'll get around to modding normal tomorrow soz)
Mir
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Topic Starter
Mir

Renumi wrote:

too picky wew
im so bad at modding your maps they're too good for me inb4 90% deny 9% maybe 1% (´・◡・｀)

[General]
  1. het

[Hard]
ye strong sounds on sliderends is what mostly bugs me xd
  1. 00:06:368 (4,5) - swap positions? if not, please give me your reasoning as to why this is the rhythm you used here - I always give reasons :3, so the reason I did this was because the strongest beats fall on those clicks I used, even though there are two vocal notes here it would be too high density so early and I think that the way I did it here is better for me personally.
  2. 00:04:981 (3,1) - maybe blanket for a triangle? - I think this is fine as it is. :3
  3. 00:08:796 (3) - no audible (or very strong in comparison to 00:09:143 - ); sound on sliderhead as opposed to sliderend, maybe replace with some notes or two 1/2 sliders - Following synth/lead here, so the drums are second priority.
  4. 00:11:397 (2,3) - i'd make 3 straight; accommodates for better flow i think; not that big of a problem to change since i heavily doubt players are going to follow the full slidertrack to get through the slider lo, - I did try that, but it would break the pattern I set up here 00:11:744 (3,4,1,2) -
  5. 00:17:120 - only other time where you don't map this super small sound in the intro of the song, i know it's probably for emphasis with the triple, but i'd do something like place a circle which represents intensity fine enough (+ consistency), a silence is good, but not good enough (if intentional) - added a slider instead
  6. 00:21:108 (2,1) - parallel for aesthetics? - Sure.~
  7. 00:34:634 (1,2) - place sliderend in middle of the other slider because that overlap kill me inside w - ok lo
  8. 00:48:507 - such a slow sv change is pretty drastic for a hard, don't you think >.> - nope, this is a 3.3 and it's pretty expectable so I think it's fine
  9. 00:58:045 (3,4,5) - this rhythm here kind of bug me personally, since 3 ends on a big white slider and sounds pretty off to me. i'd replace for a note and fixing rhythm ahead too - following background vocals
  10. 01:07:756 (1,2) - i'd reverse nc for emphasis on that "HEY" or "EEE" OR "ye A" sound there (applies for every other part in the song/map that does this as well, could nc both but that'd be too red flaggish, then again those are just my 2 cents) - done and applied to all other parts
  11. 01:08:276 (2,3,4,2,3) - why use different rhythms here if it's kinda the same vocal pitch hue - fixed everywhere
  12. 01:18:334 (5) - that curve is barely noticeable, better to make it straight and parallel with the previous slider maybe? - fixed everywhere
  13. 01:19:027 (1) - tOO SLOW - nOT SLOW ENOUGH, it's pretty expectable especially when the song it self has a sound that slows down.
  14. 01:19:027 (1) - sliderend could also be clickable as it's the first sound in this new measure (applies for evertyhign else) - Whoa dude I'm tryna be edgy here. It's my rhythm choice. :c
  15. 01:27:871 (2,1) - you could move 1 and blanket with 2 c'mon man :< - yeah xd
  16. 01:33:420 (2,1,1,1) - rhythm here might be a bit tricky to play at first, maybe cause of those stacks or smth >.> - I think it should be fine, everything is NC'd and hard players aren't dumb. :3
  17. 01:38:449 (1) - pretty good, but sliderhead is a bit :thinking:,, i'd simplify to go on the safe side :oko_hand: - We'll see.
  18. 03:04:287 (1) - sounds way too weird for my taste - Fits for me
  19. 03:48:681 (1,2,3) - hitsounds @ here ? - whistles
  20. 04:07:930 (6,7,1) - first time you do a stack for this pattern in comparison to 02:33:594 (6,7,1) - and 01:18:681 (6,7,1) - fixed
  21. 04:13:825 (1) - i think this should have some more distance cause of vocal intensity - not vocal intensity, but I think it's okay because I made more distance where I wanted to in the kiai and this isn't really worth emphasizing on a hard
  22. 04:36:108 (1) - reduce spinner volume instead of just having a 5% at the end? there's a very notable decrease in the song except for that one note in which the spinner lands on, so i'd decrease vlume bit by bit until the end (could place a 40% or something there to accentuate sound mane) - Alright fair enough.
didn't want to point out a lot of stuff at 2 minutes onward since i think everything i wanted to say got said already + trying to avoid a modwall i think
i could only mod hard for today ripe (i'll get around to modding normal tomorrow soz)
Okay! Thanks for the mod Ren-chan. <3
nextplay
976 posts
Joined December 2015
nextplay
Random (short) Birthday (I have Birthday today \o/) Mod

[Normal]

01:10:704 (7) - Move the Circle a bit up for : ok_hand: Symmetric
03:11:744 (5,6,7) - I can be me but move the 6 a bit up? same reason for the first Point
If I wasn't helpful don't give kds
L ol my Mod is bad

Gl, nice Map~
Affirmation
2,548 posts
Joined March 2015
Affirmation
Q

[highest diff]
00:26:311 (1,2) - low DS comparing with others
00:32:900 (6) - radom jump, reduce little bit.
01:34:634 (2,1) - avoid overlap
01:46:253 (7,1) - why you overlapped here? I think there's no reason about overlapping.
02:22:669 (9,1) - this DS sould be bigger than 02:22:496 (8,9) - , and 02:22:149 (6,7,8,9) - DS should be similar for visual
02:47:120 (1,2) - weird stack?
03:31:513 (1,2,3,4) - this music is still loud, don't make antijump.
03:57:004 (1,2) - swap NC
03:57:004 (1) - should be 1/4 kickslider for make 03:56:484 (6,7,8,1) - consistency.

GL
Mir
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Joined July 2016
Topic Starter
Mir

Nokashi wrote:

As Requested by ma boi mir. Also first

[ General]
  1. normal-sliderslide.wav is unused, so I Guess look into that
  2. Hard has 2 inherited points in the same tick here 03:37:756 - xd

[ Normal]
  1. 00:07:582 (2,4) - what a way to start a mod. You could make it so they dont touch each other, it isnt that neat visually speaking - yes true, changed
  2. 00:09:663 (1,2,3) - Im not sure what this is following. 00:10:357 (2) - this would work so much better if it was either here 00:10:183 - or here 00:10:530 - .It feels like you chose the weakest out of all the available beats to make clickable - changed
  3. 00:12:958 - The fact that this doesnt have a circle slightly throws me off, since this beat is on the sound the last slider was focused on - mhm, true
  4. 00:15:212 (1,2,3,4) - Similar to my point above, this is a rather questionable rhythm choice in my eyes, since emphasis is put on weaker beats rather than stronger ones. Up to you what to do with this tho. Probably this will appear later in the map as well, so i will refrain from pointing out as by the time you get there you will have already given your reasoning behind this or changed accordingly - I don't see a problem here really, I'm more focusing on the drums.
  5. 00:23:016 - I Feel like you should follow your previous pattern ( this one 00:21:455 (2,3) - ) here as well for a more consistent rhythm - But I am following it consistently. o.o
  6. Note: since the same thing happened here 00:25:270 (5,6,7) - i thought about it being intentional on your part for variety. However I Will stay adamant on the fact that its such a big contrast to rather similar expression of the song that it doesnt feel that consistent - These verses only happen twice, and I use this patterning for both
  7. 00:27:351 - Circle here maybe? It's pretty strong - High density and I think it plays slightly more intuitive if I omit the circle there
  8. 00:41:050 (3) - slider end is way stronger here. Maybe ctrlg the rhythm? like this? - Intentional because it would be a little bit weird in terms of clicking with a 1/2 slider into circle into 1/1 slider.
  9. 00:53:016 (4) - I Would make this a 1/2 slider as well, fits well as a sound with the following 2 sliders and would play nicer - The last two are the most noticeable and I don't wanna put 3 1/2 sliders right after each other. Fixed the second kiai though because that's the one that's inconsistent.
  10. 00:57:871 (3) - Whoops DS inconsistency here - fixed
  11. 01:01:686 (5,6,1) - This is only time you have used this in the kiai, and also for a sound that has been expressed differently numerous times in the same kiai. Consequently, it feels pretty disconnected from the overall patterning of the kiai and doesnt and on top of that it doesnt reflect the music that well imo - I think it's okay and I changed it in other kiais
  12. 01:07:235 (4,1,2) - Even though i really like what you did with the following gradual DS increases, I'm rather skeptical about this 0.90x DS decrease for these circles since this is still the kiai and lowering kills the purpose of increasing it to 1.00x DS at the start of the kiai. I Would keep it at a healthy 1.00x DS as well - We'll see more opinions
  13. 01:17:640 (3) - You can make this curvier so it stands out more - okay
  14. 01:21:802 (1,2) - Why dont you express this rhythm like you did this one 01:20:415 (1,2) - . Honestly that overlap doesnt look that nice and really doesnt fit the whole vocal intensity that is going on. Suggestion: you could probably increase DS to 1.10x DS or something for this part, since its basically this 01:20:415 (1,2) - but with more intensity on vocals - but it is xd (discussed in voice chat)
  15. 01:27:351 (1,2,3) - First time up until this point that this rhythm was expressed with sharp red anchors on sliders. In my opinion it doesnt fit with the whole theme you have already introduced in this certain part of the song. also that overlap 01:28:045 (2,3) - gosh isnt it too much
  16. 01:37:409 (1) - Fix stack plEz
  17. 01:40:183 (1) - ^ - slider end stacks xd they never get fixed
  18. 02:08:623 (6) - Use a 1/2 slider like you did in the last buildup here 00:53:709 (6) - to be consistent - changed already
  19. 02:22:149 (4,1,2) - As mentioned before, Increase DS to 1.00x - x.x
  20. 03:14:866 (6,1) - Not lined up correctly. Get nitpicked - ooo that's nazi
  21. 03:42:264 (4) - Should be 1/2 slider as well, pointed it out 2 times before on the same pattern, you get the idea
  22. 04:11:571 (2,1) - I would readjust this in a way that the 2 insnt that overlapped as well. You have done this before after the first kiai. My same reasoning stands here as well - same reasoning as in first kiai


I didn't bother with much of the rhythm suggestions up top in the intro because I basically remapped it.

[ Hard]
  1. 00:03:420 (3) - Maybe you can curve this as well to be more consistent with slider shapes in this section - okay
  2. 00:15:212 (1,2) - Will look neater if the sliderends didnt touch - I think it's fine :3
  3. 00:17:813 - You could make this a triple instead, It wont really add to the difficulty since this is directly before a spinner so the player still has time to cool off, so to speak, after hitting that, so it wont add that much to beatmap strain - I don't wanna use too many triples in general so this would be a bit unfair - I also don't use consecutive triples, there's always one triple per 1/4 section.
  4. 00:23:016 (3) - This reverse slider overshadows a really strong beat here 00:23:189 - . I Would go for a circle -> 1/2 slider instead to emphasize all the strong sounds - I like this rhythm to be honest, it doesn't really overshadow them that much since the rhythm is kind of following the intensity of the vocals.
  5. 00:28:738 (4,5) - this might cause some reasing issues, since most of the time you use this pattern, its in a circlular flow manner so the pattern is followed naturally and the stack below the sliderend doesnt really matter. However in my opinion here the (5) should be differentiated in terms of placement so its not under the sliderend - fixed it
  6. 00:31:860 - Why the sudden jump from 1.40x to 1.50x DS? Feels really uncalled for - unintentional so fixed
  7. I'm really confused with what you are going for here, 00:34:634 (1,2,3) - suddenly the DS Drops to 1.40x DS again then increases to 1.50x as well. This distance spacing change and why you did it is a mystery to me - Fixed too
  8. 00:40:183 (1) - Stack - a
  9. 00:40:877 (3) - The 2 ticks that are not clickable have way stronger beats than the one clickable. You should adjust this accordingly - fixed
  10. 00:46:426 (2) - Place the red anchor more to the middle for a cleaner shape - can't be fucked it's legit unnoticeable
  11. 00:48:160 (5) - i would personally place this close to the next slider, since its a different spacing snap and its expressed in almost the same way 1/2 snap is expressed - Fixed everywhere
  12. 00:53:363 (3) - DS is a bit off here but too much - fixed
  13. 01:06:542 (1) - Feels really off that this isnt a hold note since its the downbeat as well, you could try a 1/2 slider here instead - I would prefer to have it as a break so that the triple into second section of the kiai is more emphasized.
  14. 01:11:397 (2) - Make this a reverse as well for consistency with previous measures - No I want the jump xd
  15. 01:19:027 (1) - I Would make the curves more noticeable, (which will also blanket 01:18:854 (7) - so thats that) - This curve is fine stop picking on my wave sliders :C at least im not Slayed
  16. 01:29:779 (3) - only time you didnt map a beat in this part up until now. I Believe a 1/2 would be so much better - the lead stops there so I made a small gap to show that
  17. 01:35:675 (1) - Only a visual thing, but you could make the intial curve less sharp so it looks more natural? - sure
  18. 01:40:183 (1,2) - these overlaps make the pattern feel really cluttered - it's k im edgy like that
  19. 01:44:866 (4) - Stack - fixed
  20. 01:45:386 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern feels incredibly underwhelming, throughout this map up until this point you showed that you freely used 1/4 reverses when the song asked for it, yet you didnt do it here when it was apparent that the 1/4 beat was more prominent - I made the first one a 1/4
  21. 02:03:073 (5) - same applies to my previous point about differentiating 1/3 snap in terms of distance - xd
  22. 02:26:311 (2) - Should be a reverse as well - want the jump
  23. 03:21:629 (2) - Blanket - fixed
  24. 03:37:409 (5) - At this point, you know what i think of this, since i mentioned it 2 times already. Up to you to decide - ya
  25. 03:46:079 (1) - expressing 1/4 snap with the almost the spacing you used to 1/2 rhythms is a no go in my eyes, fix the DS like you did here 02:55:790 (5) - I know it's slightly different but the last kiai has a unique drop that I want to express this way
  26. 01:08:276 (1,1,1) - , 02:23:190 (1,1,1) - 03:57:525 (1,1,1) - Only noticed this after looking at last chorus, but there buildups are consistent in spacing, you see this for yourself. The DS increases in first 2 kiais are really not that gradual as the one in the the last kiai. You shoud adjust this - as long as they increase less than the last kiai I think it's fine
  27. 04:25:444 (2) - Blanket - fixed

[ Illusory Pphenomena]
  1. Basically some extra notes, since i pointed out some stuff in IRC already
  2. 00:07:235 (2) - you could move this to X:401|y:154 for a neater and more fitting placement like this (namely that nice little triangle thats created with the objects) - fixed
  3. 00:10:530 (4) - Stack - was fine
  4. 00:20:761 (1,2) - there is such a contrast of sound intesity here it feels like the (2) is so overwhelmed by the previous beat and the result doesnt bode well with the structure and the transition to this calmer section. I Would suggest making 00:20:761 (1) - a 1/2 slider preferrably blanketing 00:21:455 (4) - but the 3 has the vocal on it and since sliders are naturally more emphasis because you hold it down i think that having the first two beats as circles fits just fine here
  5. 00:24:750 (1) - less curve for a better blanket - it actually seems fine
  6. 00:30:299 (7) - I Would actually buff this jump, seems pretty off that the spacing is so small and then it builds up again - fixed it
  7. 00:49:548 (3) - i think this stack is off - ya
  8. 00:56:657 (5) - I Wouldnt say it would be fitting to have a full stop of flow here, yet its not wrong either...maybe make (4) a 1/1 slider? - I think it actually fits better because the song kind of pauses to let the impact of the kiai feel more full
  9. 01:07:929 (1) - Try moving it somewhere along the lines of x:242|y:378 so the jump angle from the kickslider isnt that sharp - slider leniency should make this fine :3
  10. 01:21:802 (1,2) - i think ive mentioned this in irc but you should either nerf this or buff this 01:21:455 (1,2) - because as it is now these strings of jumps dont express the gradual buildup of the vocals since the first set is drastically smaller than the following 4 jumps, which by sets of 2 are pretty similar - I think how it is is fine right now, I'm more going for the sharp violent movements here.
  11. 01:34:634 (2) - You could move it down a bit to avoid this 'not overlap with sliderhead but pretty damn close' feel - intentional overlap xd
  12. 01:45:386 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'm really skeptical about this since it can execute something way more than following the 1/4 beat thats being provided. Were you to only place kicksliders in these beats 01:45:733 - 01:45:906 - 01:46:079 - and circles in the rest of the beats it would put some meaning in the use of kicksliders, since they would be supporting a more distinct sound than the other circles, which would represent the constant 1/4 drum - I'm focusing exclusively on the vocals here so I'm not really trying to represent the drums. The notes where kicks are on are the more noticeable vocals, and the triple is a triple in the vocal cuts too.
  13. 02:17:120 (5) - Stack - stack is fine
  14. 02:22:669 (9) - Deserves way less intensity that whats being given, and really underwhelm the following downbeat. I Would adjust emphasis here so its more towards 02:22:842 (1) - and less towards 02:22:669 (9) - fixed
  15. 02:47:467 (2,3) - ctrlg with some spacing adjustments could work better since its a 1/2 distance and more emphasis will also be put on the following downbeat - fixed a bit
  16. 02:50:588 (1,2) - pls fix this overlap - fixed
  17. 03:19:374 (8) - stack - its fine o-o
  18. 03:28:392 (2) - Thats a pretty big jump spike when you look in the previous jump spacing placements in retrospect. You should nerf - done
  19. 03:55:617 (6,1) - I dont think you have executed this idea before and honestly i think its pretty late into the map to introduce something different because it will be inconsistent with previous kiais. I Would go for a normal triple here - but i've used many kicksliders before and this is just to emphasize the vibrato that the singer is using in the last kiai exclusively and this servers to differentiate from the previous two kiais thus kickslider and it's not hugely different considering the wub parts or the vocal chops part you mentioned earlier.
  20. 04:08:276 (1) - stack sliderend with (11) please - holy shit okay i fixed it LOL
  21. 04:22:496 (2) - increase the spacing with previous slider to have a more smooth transition with next object since the 2 spacings as they are now are heavily contrasted - Changed slightly to have spacing less drastic
  22. 04:34:287 (1,2) - I Feel like something like this would encourage a more natural movement - you wouldn't normally expect an object stacked on a stream body so i didn't stack this kick on there. I think it plays relatively fine so I'll keep it.

I Really like this set and i doubt it would have any problems getting ranked sooner or later.
You can always pm me if you have any questions regarding my mod
Good Luck!~
Thank you Nokashi <333

nextplay wrote:

Random (short) Birthday (I have Birthday today \o/) Mod

[Normal]

01:10:704 (7) - Move the Circle a bit up for : ok_hand: Symmetric
03:11:744 (5,6,7) - I can be me but move the 6 a bit up? same reason for the first Point
If I wasn't helpful don't give kds
L ol my Mod is bad

Gl, nice Map~
Denied all because too nazi but thanks for trying <3

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[highest diff]
00:26:311 (1,2) - low DS comparing with others - true and fixed
00:32:900 (6) - radom jump, reduce little bit. - it has a snare on it, so not random :3
01:34:634 (2,1) - avoid overlap - intentional :3
01:46:253 (7,1) - why you overlapped here? I think there's no reason about overlapping. - because i like the overlap? I think it's fine to be honest, it doesn't negatively impact gameplay or aesthetics at all, plus I used overlaps before so yeah.
02:22:669 (9,1) - this DS sould be bigger than 02:22:496 (8,9) - , and 02:22:149 (6,7,8,9) - DS should be similar for visual - fixed in previous mod
02:47:120 (1,2) - weird stack? - fixed in previous mod
03:31:513 (1,2,3,4) - this music is still loud, don't make antijump. - fixed
03:57:004 (1,2) - swap NC - no because the vocal starts on the 1
03:57:004 (1) - should be 1/4 kickslider for make 03:56:484 (6,7,8,1) - consistency. - but there's no sound on the blue tick afterwards so there's no reason to have a kickslider there

GL
Thanks Neo. :3
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00:04:461 (3) - stack
00:10:877 (1,2) - Is NC necessary? You could remove the nc and move this NC 00:11:397 (1) - to here 00:11:224 (6) - yes since the 1/1 stack is mainly emphasizing that electronic sound, it's also a syncopated downbeat so nc here is better
00:23:363 (1) - Feels really off that a strong white tick is on a reverse tick, generally this slider doesnt reflect the music that well
00:26:137 (1) - ^
vocals > drums.
00:34:287 (4,5) - I Would expect more movement here since you've never stacked 1/2 rhythm up until that point and song definitely supports more movement emphasizes vocal on start of the stack and next vocal by having movement again then
00:47:813 (1,1,1,1) - I Dont understand why you NC'ed so much here. For reference the Extra utilizes cause it looks exactly like the 1/3 patterns before otherwise lol
00:51:108 (3) - stack
01:06:368 (3) - You could take advantage of the big white tick here and the unused red tick afterwards why though? current rhythm emphasizes the main layer I'm following much better and is more "interesting"
01:39:316 (1) - Uneeded NC in my opinion seperates the musical patterns like before
01:45:386 (1,1,2,3,1,1,1,1) - Uneeded NCs here as well in my opinion, it would play the same without them and there isnt anything reading intensive in order for them to assist the player. "it would play the same without them" this and I think it looks really nice and makes this stand out more
02:19:200 (4) - Stack
02:59:605 (1) - stack
03:11:744 (2,3,4) - First time you express this rhythm in that way 3 minutes into the map. It can throw people off so i dont really recommend it. I Would go for a simpler rhythm like a circle here 03:11:744 - followd by a triple or something along the lines of that
As a side note: i saw that you consistently use this pattern after that timestamp. I Do believe that you could go for something simpler since this is a completely new way to handle 1/4 snap in this map and its doesnt bode that well with spacing emphasis since the 1/4 snap before is so drastically different than the 1/4 after
it's already pretty low spaced and ends in a slider, nice way to introduce this. part is pretty unique so the way it handles 1/4 is also different. only other 1/4 pattern like this outside of the part is 03:46:686 (2,3) - which is to differentiate how different that is from kiai 1
03:26:137 (1,2,3,1) - On the contrary this is pretty uncalled for by the music and its the only time you use this pattern in this 'DnB' section how is it uncalled for then there are suddenly really loud high pitched 1/2 synths? unique pattern for unique sounds and 1/4 sliderjumps are used a lot before so it's not really unexpected o: also spacing and movement are really simple
03:38:970 (1) - stack
03:45:906 (1,2) - I Could be deaf but i dont hear anything on the blue tick that directly connects with it being a beginning to the following drum stream which is why spacing and pattern changes when the drums start, and the notes here fit the background buildup sound pretty well I think, it's the thing I did on 00:56:657 (3,4) - 02:11:570 (3,4) -
After looking at 3rd kiai 02:13:651 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern is drastically different than the way this part of the song is expressed in the first and third kiai, i would suggest doing something similar to these kiais here as well you might notice how similar (or maybe even same?) vocals in kiai 1 and 3 are, which is why they have more similarities in patterning with each other than kiai 2 and also use exactly same rhythm (only really applies for first half of the kiais since second half is more similar for all 3 so they are more similar there mapping wise)
Other than that 3rd kiai looks really clean
fixed stacks I think
thanks!

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Mir
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Metaku
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hai hai mod as promised

[General]

I'd probably drop the HP of Normal to 3 since the map is quite long and it's the lowest diff anyway.
Unused hitsounds?
normal-sliderslide.wav
soft-hitwhistle-old1.wav
soft-sliderslide25.wav


[Normal]

00:06:889 - What happened to the hitsounds of this part
00:17:293 (5) - Quite sure this is meant to end on the white tick
00:18:334 (1) - Spinner recovery time could be longer... Might want to confirm with a BN tho.
00:22:842 (6) - Hmm quite a weak beat for a circle... You could try to make 00:22:496 (5) - into a slider instead'
00:35:848 (1) - Could remove NC to keep the comboing even
00:48:507 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think the rhythm could be better here. Everything here follows the drums except 4 which follows the vocals leaving a drum beat on the sliderend
00:58:912 (5,6) - I'd ctrl g these since the focus was on drums earlier and doing this it would keep the click focus on drums
01:15:386 (4) - Find it a bit weird to choose vocals over drums here since you've been focusing on drums most of the time
01:20:415 (1) - not really necessary nc here
01:23:016 (1) - ^
01:24:576 - Might want to tweak the rhythm here to be similar to the one used in the beginning
02:38:276 (1) - Quite a short spinner for a normal diff imo as it's barely over 1 sec long
02:47:120 (3) - I think this would be better if it ended on the white tick before instead as it would match the vocals as well
03:28:912 - I think it would be fine to use 1/2 sliders in places like this to follow the song better since this is a semi intense part and you've used 1/2 sliders earlier in the map as well
03:37:062 (2) - Something went wrong with snapping here
03:46:426 (1) - Unnecessary nc
04:22:669 (2) - move back 1/2 and add circle to 04:23:189 - or something for better rhythm?

[Hard]
00:01:340 - I think the intro is quite rhythm dense for a hard diff since as it is it's pretty much as dense as the insane and extra so might want to nerf it a bit
00:09:316 (4) - If you're following the melody I think 2 circles would be better here, would also be consistent with 00:14:866 (4,5) -
00:31:340 (3) - Maybe a circle + 1/2 instead? You've had focus on vocals so would be nice if it was clickable here too
00:33:594 (2,3,4) - Would be nice to see some kind of flow change or smtng to have a bigger difference between vocals 00:33:941 (3,4) - and no vocals 00:33:594 (2) -
00:50:761 (2,3,1) - Hmm I'd stack 3 with 1 here as they are part of the same vocal anyway and I'd make 2 a 1/2 slider since it kinda feels weird to have the obvious drumbeat ignored there
00:59:432 (1) - I'm quite sure circle and 1/2 would work better here like you did on 01:00:819 (5,1) -
01:08:276 (1,1) - Hmm I'm not too sure about these. Newer players could easily read stuff like this as 1/1 gap since the spacing is noticeably larger here. I get you want to do that for emphasis but I think something else could work here better like reversing flow or something while using a slightly bigger spacing compared to the rest of the part.
01:11:744 (3,4) - I'd nerf this a bit too, it's bigger spacing than Lasse had on the insane lol
01:19:027 (1) - I'd rather have this end on 01:20:241 - and have something clickable on the downbeat
01:22:842 (1,2) - Could use a bit bigger spacing here imo, ds doesn't really have enough emphasis imo. (come on you even nced these)
01:46:253 (4) - Might be a bit unexpected and hard to read for hard diff
01:54:923 (5) - Same here, I'd avoid stacking in a way that hides the note behind the slider end like this or at least increase stack leniency to have them stack properly for easier reading'
02:33:247 (5) - Hmm Idk about this. You could simplify this as the middle tick isn't really that strong here. I doesn't even have a hitsound like the head and tail.
03:03:767 (3) - only ignored drum tick in the section, might want to circle + 1/2 instead
03:14:692 (3,4) - These two are clearly different but that doesn't show in the way you mapped them in any way. Maybe replace 03:15:039 (4,5) - with a triple +1/2 slider ?
03:17:293 (2,4) - Hmm yeah more of these... I'd really suggest increasing stack leniency as these can be quite sudden and confusing to read on low ar especially for newer players
03:48:681 (1,2,3,4) - I'd really suggest changing this rhythm. It sounds weird just because of the sudden lack of hitsounds. You could try making this 03:48:681 (1) - into 1/2 + circle and 03:49:374 (3) - into a 1/4 repeat + circle. Would still keep focus on vocals but fit better overall imo.
03:49:202 (2) - Also missing clap here
03:56:225 (3) - really weak beat here and it feels kinda off as you have 3 strong ones on the repeat, you could just make 03:56:137 (2,4) - into a jump instead.
04:07:323 (3,4) - missing hitsounds?

Stuff I mentioned might apply to other parts of the song as well so might want to check for similarities yourself

I'll mod the insane and extra later. Modding nearly 20 min drain in one go is too exhausting for me lol
Mir
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Metaku wrote:

hai hai mod as promised

[General]

I'd probably drop the HP of Normal to 3 since the map is quite long and it's the lowest diff anyway. - done
Unused hitsounds?
normal-sliderslide.wav
soft-hitwhistle-old1.wav
soft-sliderslide25.wav


[Normal]

00:06:889 - What happened to the hitsounds of this part - xd
00:17:293 (5) - Quite sure this is meant to end on the white tick - mhm fixed
00:18:334 (1) - Spinner recovery time could be longer... Might want to confirm with a BN tho. - I think it's fine
00:22:842 (6) - Hmm quite a weak beat for a circle... You could try to make 00:22:496 (5) - into a slider instead - would be too many sliders in succession, this makes it easier to play
00:35:848 (1) - Could remove NC to keep the comboing even - oops
00:48:507 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think the rhythm could be better here. Everything here follows the drums except 4 which follows the vocals leaving a drum beat on the sliderend - hmm I think that this rhythm is fine because the drums are dnb-style and the vocal is noticeable enough so that it isn't too awkward to play
00:58:912 (5,6) - I'd ctrl g these since the focus was on drums earlier and doing this it would keep the click focus on drums - fixed
01:15:386 (4) - Find it a bit weird to choose vocals over drums here since you've been focusing on drums most of the time - fixed
01:20:415 (1) - not really necessary nc here - fixed
01:23:016 (1) - ^
01:24:576 - Might want to tweak the rhythm here to be similar to the one used in the beginning - done
02:38:276 (1) - Quite a short spinner for a normal diff imo as it's barely over 1 sec long - We'll see what happens
02:47:120 (3) - I think this would be better if it ended on the white tick before instead as it would match the vocals as well - sure
03:28:912 - I think it would be fine to use 1/2 sliders in places like this to follow the song better since this is a semi intense part and you've used 1/2 sliders earlier in the map as well - I added some at the end but the rest seems okay to me
03:37:062 (2) - Something went wrong with snapping here - fixed
03:46:426 (1) - Unnecessary nc - no i think i like this one, it emphasizes the different drop
04:22:669 (2) - move back 1/2 and add circle to 04:23:189 - or something for better rhythm? - done

[Hard]
00:01:340 - I think the intro is quite rhythm dense for a hard diff since as it is it's pretty much as dense as the insane and extra so might want to nerf it a bit - nerfed slightly
00:09:316 (4) - If you're following the melody I think 2 circles would be better here, would also be consistent with 00:14:866 (4,5) - okay
00:31:340 (3) - Maybe a circle + 1/2 instead? You've had focus on vocals so would be nice if it was clickable here too - this in particular focuses on drums because of the absense of vocals so not here :3
00:33:594 (2,3,4) - Would be nice to see some kind of flow change or smtng to have a bigger difference between vocals 00:33:941 (3,4) - and no vocals 00:33:594 (2) - tried something
00:50:761 (2,3,1) - Hmm I'd stack 3 with 1 here as they are part of the same vocal anyway and I'd make 2 a 1/2 slider since it kinda feels weird to have the obvious drumbeat ignored there - I did the stacking thing, but I'm fine with skipping the drum beat since i'm more focusing on that long vocal sigh here.
00:59:432 (1) - I'm quite sure circle and 1/2 would work better here like you did on 01:00:819 (5,1) -
01:08:276 (1,1) - Hmm I'm not too sure about these. Newer players could easily read stuff like this as 1/1 gap since the spacing is noticeably larger here. I get you want to do that for emphasis but I think something else could work here better like reversing flow or something while using a slightly bigger spacing compared to the rest of the part.
01:11:744 (3,4) - I'd nerf this a bit too, it's bigger spacing than Lasse had on the insane lol - both this and the above removed, i think i was being a bit too edgy lol
01:19:027 (1) - I'd rather have this end on 01:20:241 - and have something clickable on the downbeat - I think it's fine, focus is more on the bass sound here.
01:22:842 (1,2) - Could use a bit bigger spacing here imo, ds doesn't really have enough emphasis imo. (come on you even nced these) - okay
01:46:253 (4) - Might be a bit unexpected and hard to read for hard diff - changed
01:54:923 (5) - Same here, I'd avoid stacking in a way that hides the note behind the slider end like this or at least increase stack leniency to have them stack properly for easier reading - I use it consistently in this difficulty and I think it should be okay due to the insane and top diff using this type of patterning quite often. It gets the player ready for overlap patterning. That said I could probably increase the ar to 8 to make it slightly easier.
02:33:247 (5) - Hmm Idk about this. You could simplify this as the middle tick isn't really that strong here. I doesn't even have a hitsound like the head and tail.
03:03:767 (3) - only ignored drum tick in the section, might want to circle + 1/2 instead - I wanted the Serendipity line to be mapped so I focused on that rather than the drums for this one pattern.
03:14:692 (3,4) - These two are clearly different but that doesn't show in the way you mapped them in any way. Maybe replace 03:15:039 (4,5) - with a triple +1/2 slider ? - fixed differently
03:17:293 (2,4) - Hmm yeah more of these... I'd really suggest increasing stack leniency as these can be quite sudden and confusing to read on low ar especially for newer players - raised ar as before
03:48:681 (1,2,3,4) - I'd really suggest changing this rhythm. It sounds weird just because of the sudden lack of hitsounds. You could try making this 03:48:681 (1) - into 1/2 + circle and 03:49:374 (3) - into a 1/4 repeat + circle. Would still keep focus on vocals but fit better overall imo. - changed in all instances
03:49:202 (2) - Also missing clap here - xd
03:56:225 (3) - really weak beat here and it feels kinda off as you have 3 strong ones on the repeat, you could just make 03:56:137 (2,4) - into a jump instead. - I think it's fine because it's a 5 burst and I don't want to make a static triple here because those require more acc, and this repeat slider doesn't feel super off to the point that it's not satisfying to play.
04:07:323 (3,4) - missing hitsounds? - xd

Stuff I mentioned might apply to other parts of the song as well so might want to check for similarities yourself

I'll mod the insane and extra later. Modding nearly 20 min drain in one go is too exhausting for me lol
Vivyanne
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general
-im quite unsure about the spread between the normal and hard as the rythm density and just the difficulty overall seems to be going up a damn lot. perhaps getting a diff to fill in would be better to also keep the spread consistent
-kiai after 04:13:825 - seems a bit overexcessive to me. i get that the song is strong at this point and it's kinda special, but its not way as strong as the other kiais are. consider removing these

normal

recommended to fix unless intentional

00:17:293 (5) - can this slider have some symmetry in itself pls w
00:44:345 (1,1) - perhaps swapping the slidershapes would be cooler to have, as the higher pitched sound is on 00:44:345 (1) - and would actually deserve more emphasis on the shape imo than the lower pitched sound
also if u dont wanna change this 00:44:345 (1,2) - align this better so that its consistent with the rest :v
01:55:097 (1,2) - when it isnt the same slidershape lo
01:56:311 (3,4,5) - looks unusual compared to the rest of the patterning you used before. with breaks like these you seem to put in more sharper angles at other occations but here you decide to go for a wider approach.
02:11:744 (1,2) - not similar to what u did in the other kiai, you didnt have alignment there so why did u align it here :thinking:
02:17:293 (1) - guess placing this in a different posistion than a good alignment would be better to emphasise this note here. theres a long vocal string there for u to emphasise so i think doing something similar to this should give better emphasis w
03:21:108 (1,4) - why not the same sliders *trigerd*
03:23:536 (7) - think this should work rly well as a 1/2 slider to catch the main rythm better
03:30:819 (4) - again a change in angle could help emphasise this note. also NC since u did that on all big drops

hard
-fix the stack leneancy in the map since this is not something for a hard diff xd
00:02:727 (1,4) - stack
00:11:744 (3) - this reverse feels inappropriate to me. the drums get way stronger at 00:11:918 - but is emphasised the same way now as the part of the music before, eventho i think the song is different enough to be emphasised differently. imo a rythm like this would be better
00:41:918 (6,7) - why the sudden change in note density here? it's not like 00:42:091 - is a lot weaker than the rest so it could be appropriate to make 00:41:918 (6) - into a 1/2 slider to keep the same density w
00:54:576 (1) - delet nc
01:18:681 (6,7) - why did u start ignoring the 1/4 here when u show with 01:18:334 (5) - that they still exist? seems weird to me
01:19:027 (1) - why end the slider on the strong drum beat wwww
02:33:247 (5,6,7) - now u decide to just fully quit followig the 1/4 ):
03:46:426 (1) - how can u let the hardest drum beat be on a slider tail, thats completely misemphasised! try to make something so that it can be emphasised properly

lasse
00:17:640 (1) - i get the NC since you are decreasing spacing in the stream, but its not a significant change that imo would be worth NCing. the NC currently gives a lot of pressure during the stream, though i dont believe that would fit in the current situation
01:02:207 (1,2) - would swap NCs since the stronger vocal is on the 2
01:24:663 (1) - idk about the break after this spinner. along with the spinner itself, this part was mapped normally in all the other diffs, so for an insane to have the least note density in a part feels really weird. consider mapping something here too like the rest of the mapset

overall solid diff, nice!

pp diff
00:24:403 (4,2) - stack or unborn child will be mine
00:26:311 (1,2) - spacing here feels inappropriate. compared to other spacing you have after sliders, this feels like a big inconsistency regarding the spacing between notes. the stop feels kinda awkward and also, at least put the notes a bit farther apart for visual distance ww
00:51:282 (1,2) - decrease spacing a bit? having such a spike after a really slow slider is kinda uncomfortable
01:46:426 (8) - feeling like who hitcircles would work better here so the vocals are equally are emphasised. my suggestion would be to stack em so that the movement is limited
02:10:704 (2,3) - align
03:45:906 (1) - for this, imo something like this would be more interesting to do since it keeps the overall intensity higher :3/
03:50:068 (6,7,1) - why is this the only time u decide to map this triple :thinking: it is present at the other kiais so why did u only map it here and not in the others ww


didnt wanna repeat myself so i think u can find something out urself
u can find me read the CoC bye
Mir
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HighTec wrote:

general
-im quite unsure about the spread between the normal and hard as the rythm density and just the difficulty overall seems to be going up a damn lot. perhaps getting a diff to fill in would be better to also keep the spread consistent - the main reason the spread is so wide is the map length and the rhythm is fairly consistent through the difficulties. the normal is 1/2, the hard has some 1/4, the insane has some 1/3 and the and the topdiff just has big spacing
-kiai after 04:13:825 - seems a bit overexcessive to me. i get that the song is strong at this point and it's kinda special, but its not way as strong as the other kiais are. consider removing these - ok

normal

recommended to fix unless intentional

00:17:293 (5) - can this slider have some symmetry in itself pls w - no
00:44:345 (1,1) - perhaps swapping the slidershapes would be cooler to have, as the higher pitched sound is on 00:44:345 (1) - and would actually deserve more emphasis on the shape imo than the lower pitched sound also if u dont wanna change this 00:44:345 (1,2) - align this better so that its consistent with the rest :v - what the higher vocal is on the latter one but i will align it better
01:55:097 (1,2) - when it isnt the same slidershape lo - it is, just flipped
01:56:311 (3,4,5) - looks unusual compared to the rest of the patterning you used before. with breaks like these you seem to put in more sharper angles at other occations but here you decide to go for a wider approach. - I disagree, I didn't use any specific flow for these breaks and even if I did this is still a sharp angle because it's 4 - 5 90 degrees (which still isn't obtuse) and from there to 1 is a 180 degree turn which is sharp.
02:11:744 (1,2) - not similar to what u did in the other kiai, you didnt have alignment there so why did u align it here :thinking: - but it is aligned, it's straight down movement from the 1 to the 2.
02:17:293 (1) - guess placing this in a different posistion than a good alignment would be better to emphasise this note here. theres a long vocal string there for u to emphasise so i think doing something similar to this should give better emphasis w - it's a normal and the only emphasis I can do on 1/2 is click emphasis, plus that wouldn't change much so no
03:21:108 (1,4) - why not the same sliders *trigerd* - fixed
03:23:536 (7) - think this should work rly well as a 1/2 slider to catch the main rythm better - fair
03:30:819 (4) - again a change in angle could help emphasise this note. also NC since u did that on all big drops - same the angle wouldn't change very much so i'll leave it as it is, did the nc tho

hard
-fix the stack leneancy in the map since this is not something for a hard diff xd - aaaaaaaaaaaa
00:02:727 (1,4) - stack - fixed
00:11:744 (3) - this reverse feels inappropriate to me. the drums get way stronger at 00:11:918 - but is emphasised the same way now as the part of the music before, eventho i think the song is different enough to be emphasised differently. imo a rythm like this would be better - okay
00:41:918 (6,7) - why the sudden change in note density here? it's not like 00:42:091 - is a lot weaker than the rest so it could be appropriate to make - i like 00:41:918 (6) - into a 1/2 slider to keep the same density w - i like this pause more because it emphasizes the change in music (change in music change in density ooooo:)
00:54:576 (1) - delet nc - no
01:18:681 (6,7) - why did u start ignoring the 1/4 here when u show with 01:18:334 (5) - that they still exist? seems weird to me - in favor of vocals and not to overdo the note density because i push it pretty hard later on, the 1/4 that i did map is much more noticeable than the ones i skip
01:19:027 (1) - why end the slider on the strong drum beat wwww - It's my style.
02:33:247 (5,6,7) - now u decide to just fully quit followig the 1/4 ): - fixed
03:46:426 (1) - how can u let the hardest drum beat be on a slider tail, thats completely misemphasised! try to make something so that it can be emphasised properly - it's emphasizing something different, mainly the offbeat finish, so i'm fine with not emphasizing the drum here

pp diff
00:24:403 (4,2) - stack or unborn child will be mine - ok
00:26:311 (1,2) - spacing here feels inappropriate. compared to other spacing you have after sliders, this feels like a big inconsistency regarding the spacing between notes. the stop feels kinda awkward and also, at least put the notes a bit farther apart for visual distance ww - changed
00:51:282 (1,2) - decrease spacing a bit? having such a spike after a really slow slider is kinda uncomfortable - ok
01:46:426 (8) - feeling like who hitcircles would work better here so the vocals are equally are emphasised. my suggestion would be to stack em so that the movement is limited - yeah i can do that
02:10:704 (2,3) - align - okdad
03:45:906 (1) - for this, imo something like this would be more interesting to do since it keeps the overall intensity higher :3/ - i lied did things but we'll see how it goes
03:50:068 (6,7,1) - why is this the only time u decide to map this triple :thinking: it is present at the other kiais so why did u only map it here and not in the others ww - fixed


didnt wanna repeat myself so i think u can find something out urself
u can find me read the CoC bye
Thanks HighTec for your mod.
Einja
663 posts
Joined February 2015
Einja
hi from my queue

Lasse's Insane

-00:04:808 (4,5) - Remove overlap?
-01:00:473 (2,1,2,3) - That triple and that slider seem too far away from each other, maybe pull them closer?
-01:01:166 - It feels empty here, I think adding a circle here would be nice.
-01:21:802 (1) - Remove the NC here
-01:23:016 (1) - Remove the NC here as well, it should connect to the previous pattern
-01:23:709 (2,1,2,3,1) - This pattern feels more comfortable to me imo


-02:33:940 (1) - Remove the NC here, and do the same to anything similar to that
-02:37:929 (1) - Remove NC
-03:50:415 - Add a beat here



Illusory Phenomena

-Change the AR to something like 9.3 or 9.4. AR9 is too low for an extra difficulty.

-01:23:016 (1,2) - Letting the hitcircle overlap doesn't look nice imo.
-01:34:634 (2,1,1) - Don't let these overlap either
-02:01:340 (1,2,3,4) - Make this the same as the previous patterns.
-02:56:050 (6,1) - Fix the stacking with these notes
-03:00:819 (2,3,4) - Make this the same as 03:02:207 (2,3,4) - there really is no pattern change to the song, so the triples should be evenly spaced.
-03:35:675 (1,2,3,4) - Once again, don't change the pattern here. The song's pattern doesn't really change at all. So make it the same as 03:34:287 (1,2,3,4).
-03:45:993 (2,1) - fix overlap with this
-04:02:900 (2,3,4) - Make this a triangle jump


That's it really, good luck on getting this map ranked! :)
Mir
osu! Alumni
2,152 posts
Joined July 2016
Topic Starter
Mir

Einja wrote:

hi from my queue

Illusory Phenomena

-Change the AR to something like 9.3 or 9.4. AR9 is too low for an extra difficulty. - ok i tried 9 but i guess not lol i didn't like it too much either

-01:23:016 (1,2) - Letting the hitcircle overlap doesn't look nice imo. - i think it looks fine
-01:34:634 (2,1,1) - Don't let these overlap either - they're not bad overlaps, it's fine as it is
-02:01:340 (1,2,3,4) - Make this the same as the previous patterns. - the vocal phrase continues longer and the 1/3 part gets introduced so i don't want to make it seem the same as the previous phrases
-02:56:050 (6,1) - Fix the stacking with these notes - okay
-03:00:819 (2,3,4) - Make this the same as 03:02:207 (2,3,4) - there really is no pattern change to the song, so the triples should be evenly spaced. - the song is getting gradually louder, as is the sound im following, so i'm increasing the spacing very slightly to reflect that
-03:35:675 (1,2,3,4) - Once again, don't change the pattern here. The song's pattern doesn't really change at all. So make it the same as 03:34:287 (1,2,3,4). - same reasoning as above really
-03:45:993 (2,1) - fix overlap with this - nudged it
-04:02:900 (2,3,4) - Make this a triangle jump - oh yeah, you're right i could do that. changed

That's it really, good luck on getting this map ranked! :)
Thanks for your mod!
Lasse
osu! Alumni
3,644 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
HighTec: did the first one
keeping the nc pattern for second cause vocals
different breaks and stuff on gds is not a problem and I like this break placement for full songs

Einja
Lasse's Insane

-00:04:808 (4,5) - Remove overlap? why, it's cute
-01:00:473 (2,1,2,3) - That triple and that slider seem too far away from each other, maybe pull them closer? slider leniency
-01:01:166 - It feels empty here, I think adding a circle here would be nice. don't think so
-01:21:802 (1) - Remove the NC here
-01:23:016 (1) - Remove the NC here as well, it should connect to the previous pattern
current makes more sense with my patterning and overall nc usage
-01:23:709 (2,1,2,3,1) - This pattern feels more comfortable to me imo not supposed to be comfortable, it's supposed to stand out so it uses a unique one
-02:33:940 (1) - Remove the NC here, and do the same to anything similar to that
-02:37:929 (1) - Remove NC same as other nc
-03:50:415 - Add a beat here same
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Mir
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Metaku
mod pt 2 so no kds here

[Lasse]

00:10:704 (4,1) - Think you could have a bit more spacing here compared to 00:10:530 (3,4) - altho I understand if you want to keep the ds pattern here
00:11:918 (3,4,5) - You could probably space these since you've had a weaker triple spaced here 00:06:715 (4,5,1) - and these actually stand out a lot
00:12:264 (6) - I guess you had this as 1/2 slider for the vocals but I honestly think 2 circles would match the song better here. You also mapped to the melody earlier so having something clickable here would be nice for that too.
00:14:345 (3) - if you were following the melody wouldn't a 1/2 + circle work better here
00:20:415 (2,3,1) - I think that 1 could be emphasized more here. If you ctrl + g 2 3 then you'd have more space to work around with it if you decided to change it
00:41:050 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Kinda monotonous spacing here imo especially when 00:41:744 (2,4) - are rather weak and 00:41:050 (3,4,5) - stand out a lot more
00:48:160 (1,1,1) - Don't think the nc spam is needed here as 00:47:813 (1) - will pretty much tell it's going to be 1/3 anyway
00:57:871 (1,2) - Might just be me but shouldn't the nc be swapped here?
01:04:808 (1,2) - Same here... Maybe I just don't get the idea behind your ncs
01:21:629 (2,1) - I'd expect a bigger spacing here since it's a lot stronger compared to 01:21:455 (1,2) -
01:46:426 (1) - Wouldn't this work better as 2 1/4s following your previous pattern?
01:53:189 (2) - Kinda weird to see you stacking a vocal here since you had them pretty much spaced all the time
02:03:073 (1,1,1) - Same thing about ncs as earlier
03:08:623 (1,2) - Probably had this different on purpose but would be more consisten with a a 1/4 repeat instead
03:37:061 (1,1,1,1,1) - Have to say this looks a bit weird and it's also inconsistent with the previous ones
04:13:912 (1) - Just personal preference but I'd have this mapped normally instead of spinner as it's the end of the song and having a long break with a spinner here kinda kills the intensity imo

[Too hard diff name]

00:02:380 (4) - Clearly more stressed than the 3 before so could be cool to ctrl+g this or smtng to match it
00:22:496 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I think something cool like 00:25:270 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - would match the song better than 2 identical triangles
00:47:813 (4) - would nc for the 1/3
01:08:103 (2) - Pretty weak note here, surely doesn't need this much emphasis spacing like 01:09:316 (2,3) - would work a lot better
01:15:212 (2) - Feels kinda underspaced imo comparing to the rest of the part
01:35:675 (1,2) - Please fix this blanket
01:37:409 (2,3) - Spacing feels kinda small after 01:37:062 (1,2) -
01:40:183 (2,3) - same here
01:46:426 (8,9) - could make this a triple
01:47:987 (1,2) - some of your blankets make me want to kms
01:51:629 (5,6) - Deserves mor spacing imo, maybe stack 6 with 01:51:108 (2) - ? Would also make nice circular flow here
01:54:230 (3) - I'd ctrl g to keep the flow direction, would also make the spacing more even here
02:22:842 (1,2) - Drop spacing a bit to make it more consistent with 02:24:230 (2,3) - 02:25:617 (2,3) - ?
02:43:738 - Kinda weird to end break here, why not just do it at 02:43:652 -
03:37:062 (4) - Nc here for 1/3 and also in the previous one I just forgot to mention

Nice map Hope I'll be good enough to farm this someday
Lasse
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Lasse
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Metaku wrote:

mod pt 2 so no kds here

[Lasse]

00:10:704 (4,1) - Think you could have a bit more spacing here compared to 00:10:530 (3,4) - altho I understand if you want to keep the ds pattern here did something here, mainly to get more spacing to 00:11:397 (1) -
00:11:918 (3,4,5) - You could probably space these since you've had a weaker triple spaced here 00:06:715 (4,5,1) - and these actually stand out a lot drum triples =/= melody triples ending on a slider
00:12:264 (6) - I guess you had this as 1/2 slider for the vocals but I honestly think 2 circles would match the song better here. You also mapped to the melody earlier so having something clickable here would be nice for that too. melody on 00:12:264 (6) - is much stronger so this makes a nice transition
00:14:345 (3) - if you were following the melody wouldn't a 1/2 + circle work better here dont think so, there is only really outstanding melody on current click
00:20:415 (2,3,1) - I think that 1 could be emphasized more here. If you ctrl + g 2 3 then you'd have more space to work around with it if you decided to change it not everything needs the usual spacing emphasis[ through more spacing. this has a big spacing change and is also in the middle of the triangle, making it stand out visually/color]
00:41:050 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Kinda monotonous spacing here imo especially when 00:41:744 (2,4) - are rather weak and 00:41:050 (3,4,5) - stand out a lot more
00:48:160 (1,1,1) - Don't think the nc spam is needed here as 00:47:813 (1) - will pretty much tell it's going to be 1/3 anyway still cute though
00:57:871 (1,2) - Might just be me but shouldn't the nc be swapped here? it's comboed (and patterned) by how interpret the vocal phrases here, so no
01:04:808 (1,2) - Same here... Maybe I just don't get the idea behind your ncs ^
01:21:629 (2,1) - I'd expect a bigger spacing here since it's a lot stronger compared to 01:21:455 (1,2) - but it already is way bigger + breaks the pattern from before so it stands out more
01:46:426 (1) - Wouldn't this work better as 2 1/4s following your previous pattern? both would work, but current is a nicer transition to vocals (held vocals start here) and less intense part
01:53:189 (2) - Kinda weird to see you stacking a vocal here since you had them pretty much spaced all the timethat barely counts as vocal lol
02:03:073 (1,1,1) - Same thing about ncs as earlier
03:08:623 (1,2) - Probably had this different on purpose but would be more consisten with a a 1/4 repeat instead seperates it better from the similar pre chorus thing. also this doesnt have jump spam before, so I can make the pattern itself harder without making it too hard for the diff
03:37:061 (1,1,1,1,1) - Have to say this looks a bit weird and it's also inconsistent with the previous ones but that circles in this part are all diagonal movement snapped to grid4
04:13:912 (1) - Just personal preference but I'd have this mapped normally instead of spinner as it's the end of the song and having a long break with a spinner here kinda kills the intensity imo same thing as 01:24:663 (1) - and I think it's nice on the vocal
thanks!

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Mir
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Mir

Metaku wrote:

mod pt 2 so no kds here

[Too hard diff name]

00:02:380 (4) - Clearly more stressed than the 3 before so could be cool to ctrl+g this or smtng to match it - sure
00:22:496 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I think something cool like 00:25:270 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - would match the song better than 2 identical triangles - true, fixed
00:47:813 (4) - would nc for the 1/3 - nah it's fine since the 1/3 repeat before should be enough of a cue for players of this level
01:08:103 (2) - Pretty weak note here, surely doesn't need this much emphasis spacing like 01:09:316 (2,3) - would work a lot better - nerfed
01:15:212 (2) - Feels kinda underspaced imo comparing to the rest of the part - buffed
01:35:675 (1,2) - Please fix this blanket
01:37:409 (2,3) - Spacing feels kinda small after 01:37:062 (1,2) - emphasis jump from small to loud sound, and I think it's fine as a sort of melded together pattern since the sound also merges together
01:40:183 (2,3) - same here - ^
01:46:426 (8,9) - could make this a triple - would rather have the vocals be distinct and not meshed into a triple
01:47:987 (1,2) - some of your blankets make me want to kms - me too
01:51:629 (5,6) - Deserves mor spacing imo, maybe stack 6 with 01:51:108 (2) - ? Would also make nice circular flow here - sure
01:54:230 (3) - I'd ctrl g to keep the flow direction, would also make the spacing more even here - I like this flow a bit better, it's more fluid and not exclusively circular
02:22:842 (1,2) - Drop spacing a bit to make it more consistent with 02:24:230 (2,3) - 02:25:617 (2,3) - ? - sure
02:43:738 - Kinda weird to end break here, why not just do it at 02:43:652 - removed the extension completely lol idk why it was there
03:37:062 (4) - Nc here for 1/3 and also in the previous one I just forgot to mention - ^

Nice map Hope I'll be good enough to farm this someday
Thanks Metaku bby. <3

Updated.~
Log Off Now
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hey whats up guys its lon here back again with another mod

[Normal]

minor stuff

00:17:293 (5) - aesthetics maybe make the 2 shorter parts on this slider equal length?
00:27:524 (3,4) - aesthetics maybe make the ctrl + h on this a bit more obvious? atm it looks almost like a parallel error
00:30:299 (3,4) - ds error i think
01:07:235 (4) - maybe swap this rhythm with 01:01:686 (5,6) - ? there is a drum fill and a louder vocal but you use a less dense rhythm for it
01:29:085 (5) - drop this a tiny bit for perfect line
01:46:079 (2) - slider end maybe use same hitsounds as you did on 01:45:386 (1) - ? idk
01:54:403 (5) - missing whistle hitsound?
02:03:420 (1,2) - ds error
02:08:970 (1) - could make a cleaner wave shape here
02:10:704 (3) - would prefer to see an angle change here instead of just linear motion to help accent the sharp feeling of the music here
02:22:149 (4) - similar comment to 01:07:235 (4) - (same for last kiai)
02:26:657 (3,4) - maybe check ds here too
03:14:866 (6) - missing soft whistle hitsound? idk because your hitsounding on these 3 circle patterns is kinda inconsistent (for example you have one here 03:17:640 (6) ) and i cant really tell what the hitsound is for and can barely hear it anyway
03:59:605 (6,1) - ds again
04:05:501 (1,2,3) - make perfect triangle?

[Hard]

01:19:027 (1) - i think a sv change this drastic might be a bit difficult to read at this diff level, consider raising it a little (same comment for all 3 of these)
01:22:842 (1) - remove nc
01:49:548 (1) - move a bit to the left for better visual distance consistency between 01:48:854 (3,4,1) - ?
03:32:207 (3) - nc this for consistency with the rest of this section?

cool

[Lasse]

cool map

[big words]

honestly also cool map too, i feel some elements are overspaced and inconsistent in places, for example 00:32:727 (5,6) - this huge jump for a weak vocal, if it's for the snare, then you should also space 00:31:860 (1,2) - equally as large for consistency and also easier movement, atm its sorta awkward. these things pop up occasionally, so i would advise you check spacing (mainly in the non kiai parts of the map), other than that tho its nice.

gl! sorry for kinda shitmod, feeling really ill atm
Mir
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Log Off Now wrote:

hey whats up guys its lon here back again with another mod

[Normal]

minor stuff

00:17:293 (5) - aesthetics maybe make the 2 shorter parts on this slider equal length? - okay
00:27:524 (3,4) - aesthetics maybe make the ctrl + h on this a bit more obvious? atm it looks almost like a parallel error - I think it's obvious enough
00:30:299 (3,4) - ds error i think - nope, seems fine
01:07:235 (4) - maybe swap this rhythm with 01:01:686 (5,6) - ? there is a drum fill and a louder vocal but you use a less dense rhythm for it - did something else
01:29:085 (5) - drop this a tiny bit for perfect line - can't really say no lol
01:46:079 (2) - slider end maybe use same hitsounds as you did on 01:45:386 (1) - ? idk - I think it's okay
01:54:403 (5) - missing whistle hitsound? - whistles are on vocals so there's nothing missing here
02:03:420 (1,2) - ds error - ds is fine here.
02:08:970 (1) - could make a cleaner wave shape here - i tried
02:10:704 (3) - would prefer to see an angle change here instead of just linear motion to help accent the sharp feeling of the music here - done
02:22:149 (4) - similar comment to 01:07:235 (4) - (same for last kiai) - did something else again xd
02:26:657 (3,4) - maybe check ds here too - intentional increase
03:14:866 (6) - missing soft whistle hitsound? idk because your hitsounding on these 3 circle patterns is kinda inconsistent (for example you have one here 03:17:640 (6) ) and i cant really tell what the hitsound is for and can barely hear it anyway - i'll turn its volume up and add a whistle there
03:59:605 (6,1) - ds again - also intentional
04:05:501 (1,2,3) - make perfect triangle? - barely off but okay

[Hard]

01:19:027 (1) - i think a sv change this drastic might be a bit difficult to read at this diff level, consider raising it a little (same comment for all 3 of these)
01:22:842 (1) - remove nc - I think this is fine, emphasizes the big sounds here
01:49:548 (1) - move a bit to the left for better visual distance consistency between 01:48:854 (3,4,1) - ?
03:32:207 (3) - nc this for consistency with the rest of this section?

Applied everything else.

cool

[Lasse]

cool map

[big words]

honestly also cool map too, i feel some elements are overspaced and inconsistent in places, for example 00:32:727 (5,6) - this huge jump for a weak vocal, if it's for the snare, then you should also space 00:31:860 (1,2) - equally as large for consistency and also easier movement, atm its sorta awkward. these things pop up occasionally, so i would advise you check spacing (mainly in the non kiai parts of the map), other than that tho its nice.

I understand. I went through and nerfed spacing on some weaker notes and changed some placement around. Hopefully it's better now.

gl! sorry for kinda shitmod, feeling really ill atm - it's okay, i appreciate you trying :3
Thanks Lon.~
Nuuskamuikkunen
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Nuuskamuikkunen
Well, i am here because the M4M ;D

Not pro, but i'll do what i can


Normal

I heavily suggest change the circle size to between 3 and 3.2 , when i played it i felt akward because of the big circles ;/ , however with HR mod felt way better ;)
It also may confuse newcomers because of the small space between notes and big circles.

Hard

00:06:889 (1,2) - These notes felt... Strange. That was unexpected, don't know if intentional. If it's your style, i won't care at all. I put this there because there were almost not "big" jumps on this diff. The 2 and the 5 of the previous note made this even more confusing.

Insane and Extra not modded because i am not so skilled :/

Don't worry, my map is less than 1 minute per diff. Just want suggestions to make it better and more aesthetic :3
Just in case this is the link https://osu.ppy.sh/s/587632

Personal Opinnions: I liked the gameplay of this beatmap. Great! Also love the song :D

Shooting star :3
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mod https://osu.ppy.sh/s/587139 pls xd
Mir
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eblf2013 wrote:

Well, i am here because the M4M ;D

Not pro, but i'll do what i can


Normal

I heavily suggest change the circle size to between 3 and 3.2 , when i played it i felt akward because of the big circles ;/ , however with HR mod felt way better ;)
It also may confuse newcomers because of the small space between notes and big circles.

CS 2.5 is fine tbh, it's supposed to be a baby normal so it should be with low cs imo

Hard

00:06:889 (1,2) - These notes felt... Strange. That was unexpected, don't know if intentional. If it's your style, i won't care at all. I put this there because there were almost not "big" jumps on this diff. The 2 and the 5 of the previous note made this even more confusing.

I nerfed it slightly I suppose

Insane and Extra not modded because i am not so skilled :/

Don't worry, my map is less than 1 minute per diff. Just want suggestions to make it better and more aesthetic :3
Just in case this is the link https://osu.ppy.sh/s/587632

Personal Opinnions: I liked the gameplay of this beatmap. Great! Also love the song :D

Shooting star :3
Will get your mod done soon.
vekt0r
209 posts
Joined May 2016
vekt0r
Hi, returning m4m
A few of the points on illusory phenomena are just things that I think would be nice

Hard
I said I was going to only do one diff but I did this one too since hard is now my second main diff to map (this mod might be worse though idk)

00:54:230 (3,1,3) - Change sv for these to 1.1x maybe, the song is really intense here and they just look too short (and 02:09:143 (3,1,3) -, 03:43:478 (3,1,3) -)
01:08:276 (1) - All these yells could have higher spacing, which could also help with the introduction of non-constant ds because the introduction here: 01:22:842 (1,2) - might be a bit weird (and 02:23:189 (1) -, 03:57:525 (1) -)
(also I think the kiais should have higher spacing too, because the increase in note density makes it seem too low despite the slight increase)
01:19:027 (1) - I think this should end 1/2 a beat earlier so the end can be clickable (and 02:33:941 (1) -, 04:08:276 (1) -)
02:53:363 (1,2) - Maybe the mirroring was supposed to show the whoosh sound, but since the first sound doesn’t appear on the second slider, it should be a different shape
03:03:767 (3) - Make sliderend clickable, because vocal, and also so you don’t ignore the middle sound which has been mapped the last 5 times
03:09:143 (4,5) - I think a triple onto a slider with 4 repeats would be better here to show emphasis; I don’t think it’s too hard for this diff but your choice (also sv 1.1x here too)
03:47:293 (1) - Remove nc
Illusory Phenomena
00:01:340 (1,2,3,4) - I feel like using ctrl-g on 2 and 4 would better emphasize the 4 because it would break circular flow
00:23:536 (1) - This sliderend should be clickable because there’s a drumbeat and significant vocal here, and also it is here: 00:21:108 (3) -
(also I don’t think 00:20:935 (2) - should be since its sound is barely audible)
00:29:952 (5,6,7) - The spacing for these is too close to the spacing for the other jumps here to see that these are the important drumbeats
00:54:056 (1) - These drums are divided in groups of 6-6-4, so why are the streams and nc’s doing a 4/4 rhythm? (and 02:08:970 (1) -, 03:43:305 (1) -)
01:11:050 (4) - It’s weird having this be curved when the previous two yells were mapped with straight sliders, and then curved sliders are used for a different purpose right after
Later it seems like the two types are just mixed, and I think you should stick to the straight sliders because the curved ones are more associated with vocals
01:20:415 (2) - nc for consistency with the other two kiai endings
01:21:802 (1,2) - Lower spacing maybe because it seems like you’re trying to emphasize the big drum hits (and 02:36:715 (1,2) -)
01:33:767 (4,5,1) - Usually the jump to the 1 is equal or bigger, but here 5-1 is smaller than 4-5 despite the 1 being stronger (and 01:50:415 (3,4,1) -)
03:03:941 (5,6) - Increase spacing to match the other ones before it
03:09:143 (7) - I guess this pattern could be seen as putting emphasis here, but still nc
I would prefer this though:

03:19:548 (1,4,6,7) - Maybe increase spacing to these notes (by a lot) to emphasize the offbeat rhythm that only shows up here
03:31:513 (1,2,3,4) - I don’t get why this one is spaced while the other times this section came up, the first 3 all followed the linear pattern
03:56:484 (6) - nc for song change and consistency with earlier sections
04:32:033 (2,3) - Maybe ctrl-g these, this stuck out to me because the map mostly uses jumps with sharper angles that cross over each other
That's all, I hope my mod helped!
Also the song and map are really good, take another star :D
Good luck!
Mir
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vekt0r wrote:

Hi, returning m4m
A few of the points on illusory phenomena are just things that I think would be nice

[Hard]
I said I was going to only do one diff but I did this one too since hard is now my second main diff to map (this mod might be worse though idk)

00:54:230 (3,1,3) - Change sv for these to 1.1x maybe, the song is really intense here and they just look too short (and 02:09:143 (3,1,3) -, 03:43:478 (3,1,3) -) - to me they look alright
01:08:276 (1) - All these yells could have higher spacing, which could also help with the introduction of non-constant ds because the introduction here: 01:22:842 (1,2) - might be a bit weird (and 02:23:189 (1) -, 03:57:525 (1) -) - was originally this way anyways so done
(also I think the kiais should have higher spacing too, because the increase in note density makes it seem too low despite the slight increase) - this i kinda disagree since the note density increase vs. spacing is much more justified here and has higher pressure along with the ds changes i did before make it alright. at least to me lol
01:19:027 (1) - I think this should end 1/2 a beat earlier so the end can be clickable (and 02:33:941 (1) -, 04:08:276 (1) - ) - yeah no i wanted this whole bass thing mapped so gonna keep that as is, i did consider it when mapping it
02:53:363 (1,2) - Maybe the mirroring was supposed to show the whoosh sound, but since the first sound doesn’t appear on the second slider, it should be a different shape - done
03:03:767 (3) - Make sliderend clickable, because vocal, and also so you don’t ignore the middle sound which has been mapped the last 5 times - done
03:09:143 (4,5) - I think a triple onto a slider with 4 repeats would be better here to show emphasis; I don’t think it’s too hard for this diff but your choice (also sv 1.1x here too) - it's alright here since it's not kiai time lol
03:47:293 (1) - Remove nc - wanna keep it for that 2/1 reverse since it's something completely different and shows a song change

[Illusory Phenomena]
00:01:340 (1,2,3,4) - I feel like using ctrl-g on 2 and 4 would better emphasize the 4 because it would break circular flow - ctrl+g'd 2 instead
00:23:536 (1) - This sliderend should be clickable because there’s a drumbeat and significant vocal here, and also it is here: 00:21:108 (3) -
(also I don’t think 00:20:935 (2) - should be since its sound is barely audible) - true for both, fixed
00:29:952 (5,6,7) - The spacing for these is too close to the spacing for the other jumps here to see that these are the important drumbeats 0 was more going for overall emphasis so i spaced them only slightly more
00:54:056 (1) - These drums are divided in groups of 6-6-4, so why are the streams and nc’s doing a 4/4 rhythm? (and 02:08:970 (1) -, 03:43:305 (1) -) - because on the 5 there's a different drum being hit so i mapped a kickslider
01:11:050 (4) - It’s weird having this be curved when the previous two yells were mapped with straight sliders, and then curved sliders are used for a different purpose right after - done
Later it seems like the two types are just mixed, and I think you should stick to the straight sliders because the curved ones are more associated with vocals
01:20:415 (2) - nc for consistency with the other two kiai endings - done
01:21:802 (1,2) - Lower spacing maybe because it seems like you’re trying to emphasize the big drum hits (and 02:36:715 (1,2) -) - again more general emphasis since the song changes quite drastically, thus the spacing is higher
01:33:767 (4,5,1) - Usually the jump to the 1 is equal or bigger, but here 5-1 is smaller than 4-5 despite the 1 being stronger (and 01:50:415 (3,4,1) -) - fixed both
03:03:941 (5,6) - Increase spacing to match the other ones before it - fixed
03:09:143 (7) - I guess this pattern could be seen as putting emphasis here, but still nc - :?: not really getting what you're suggesting here x.x
I would prefer this though:

03:19:548 (1,4,6,7) - Maybe increase spacing to these notes (by a lot) to emphasize the offbeat rhythm that only shows up here - ill give it a shot
03:31:513 (1,2,3,4) - I don’t get why this one is spaced while the other times this section came up, the first 3 all followed the linear pattern - well because the song is different here, there's a break and a buildup instead of a breakdown which is why i used a linear low-spaced pattern
03:56:484 (6) - nc for song change and consistency with earlier sections - done
04:32:033 (2,3) - Maybe ctrl-g these, this stuck out to me because the map mostly uses jumps with sharper angles that cross over each other - true, nice catch I didn't see that
That's all, I hope my mod helped!
Also the song and map are really good, take another star :D
Good luck!
Really good mod. Thanks!
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Rizia
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Rizia
little irc
01:14 Mir: Hi Rizia~ I have a request (I think you take from testplay)
01:15 Rizia: 0.0?
01:15 Mir: ;w;
01:15 Mir: a mod request or.. something i read you userpage you said you take based on testplay xD
01:15 Rizia: wat map
01:15 *Mir is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1225088 ZAQ - Serendipity]
01:17 Mir: i'll watch ;w;
01:22 Rizia: not bad
01:25 Rizia: 01:03:594 (1) - i want mention this clap is sounds a bit weird
01:25 Mir: ah i think that i copy-pasted that
01:25 Mir: and missed the clap on the end
01:26 Mir: fixed it anyhow
01:26 Rizia: 00:49:721 (4,5,1) - also i think you should follow drum with vocal instead vocal only
01:26 Rizia: on this part
01:27 Mir: hmm i can make the rhythms merge a bit better yea
01:27 Rizia: its feel empty now
01:27 Rizia: like 00:50:241 - 00:51:629 - 
01:28 Mir: alright i made a better rhythm
01:28 Mir: i kinda wanna keep that long slider tho
01:28 Rizia: ok
01:30 Rizia: 00:46:426 (1,2,3,4) - why not make consistent placement with 00:43:652 (1,2,3,4) - 00:45:039 (1,2,3,4) - 
01:30 Mir: and done for all pre-chorus sections
01:30 Mir: for that
01:30 Mir: the vocals continue past there and don't stop at the end of that phrase
01:30 Mir: so i didn't place it the same way
01:30 Rizia: oi see
01:32 Rizia: thats all i want to mention for now
01:33 Mir: oh okay
01:33 Rizia: i dont plan to check the full set since im kinda busy recently
01:34 Rizia: cant spend too much time
01:34 Rizia: x_x
01:34 Mir: oh rip ;w;
01:34 Mir: may i find you again when you're free or?
01:34 Rizia: yea
01:35 Rizia: btw the map plays cool
01:35 Mir: \o/
01:35 Mir: thanks rizia

i will come again when i have more free time to checking full set
Weedy
773 posts
Joined January 2014
Weedy
late as fuck m4m return because i need to burn my backpack and all of its contents
[300pp]
00:22:496 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7764165 would do something like for jumps (plus it fits) (4,5) also looks kinda bad so eh
00:27:524 (4) - rotate by maybe 30 degrees or something for a cleaner entrance from (3)
00:42:091 (5) - would probably move to 113:261 instead for cleaner triangle with 00:41:918 (4,5,1) -
00:48:276 (2,3) - would suggest NC'ing these for reading (different rhythm spook)
00:59:432 (1) - move to maybe 139:0 or something unless you really care about that overlap because looks better with 00:59:779 (2) - and vocal emphasis (and then also restack 01:00:646 (5) -
01:00:819 (6) - would move to 47:366 or something instead because fuck wide triangles
01:01:340 (2) - how about making this a different slider to emphasize vocal start or something
01:22:669 (3,4,1) - scalene triangle jumps :eggplant: :water:
01:33:420 (3,4) - improve blanket or something
01:46:600 (9) - would maybe overlap on 01:46:773 (1) - instead
02:03:189 (2,3) - nc
02:07:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - going fucking monstrata :eyes:
02:15:039 (3,4,5,6,7) - maybe something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7764265 this for flow
02:26:311 (5) - move to 22:293 for better jump
02:28:218 (1,2,3) - i'd rather kill aesthetic theme for playability here because sharp 90 deg snaps are :gun:
02:37:756 (4) - did you mean 395:102 because triangle aesthetic when you look at it a certain way
02:49:201 (1) - why not do a Z slider or something, it's a synth sound and you've mapped it with angled sliders so far
02:50:588 (1) - make slider more angle-y (basically just make every point red and adjust it a little
03:12:438 (8) - ctrl g this maybe, better flow and emphasis
03:30:472 (7,8,1) - more spacing than vocals but is practically on nothing :ok_hand:
03:37:524 (2,3) - nc
03:41:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - n i c e
03:42:264 (3) - this circle is off, should be more at 123:107 ish
03:43:305 (1,2,3,4) - make this a straight stream instead of curved so transitioning from jump to aiming stream isnt so awkward
03:51:629 (1) - make this an angle slider maybe, cleans up emphasis with 03:51:975 (2) -
04:00:126 (3) - you could move this farther to ~:64:39 for cleanliness and moar pp
04:11:050 (1,2,1,2) - higher spacing and lower pitch :hmm:
04:34:461 (2) - overlap the head on 04:34:027 (7) - because looks better owo)b

:stretch: fucking hexagons mate

[Lass]
00:03:767 (4) - ctrl g maybe
00:12:958 (3) - move the red node to 403:379 so it provides an angle blanket aesthetic thing
00:13:998 (2) - ctrl g eh it feels better to play
00:17:293 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i dont think high 4* players can read this dense stack thing, maybe the last 4 notes = repeat or some shit idk
00:28:912 (6) - move a little for reading
00:34:461 (5) - move to 474:293 bc blanket aesthetic and easier to read
00:48:160 (1,1,1) - maybe have this be another 1/3 slider (not necessary)
00:58:392 (3) - ctrl g bc emphasis on background noise dampens other emphases (emphasis plural dont ask me)
01:04:981 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7764420 this would flow better like this because weird intended slider flow vs where your mouse cursor is actually going
01:12:438 (2,2) - slider stacks :eyes: spooky 2 read i misread it when i played it zzz im bad
01:24:056 (1,2,3,1) - nice checkmark
01:24:663 (1) - too long (?)
01:45:733 (3,1,1,1,1) - might wanna have someone testplay this just to be safe
02:03:074 (1) - 1/3 reverse slider maybe
02:09:489 (1,2,3,4,5) - have this be another 4-reverse 1/4 slider for playability and emphasis on stream leading up to kiai
02:33:420 (1,2,3) - hard to tell that it's 1/4 jump
02:45:039 (1) - this section reminds me of Goodbye to a World by monstrata for some reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
02:58:218 (1,1) - should be 1/1 slider and then 2/1 reverse slider instead for consistency with 02:56:137 (1) -
03:07:322 (1) - mfw too lazy to do slider art so kinda just toss a spinner in
03:11:744 (2,3,4) - hard to read because (3) is overlapped and people might misread the spacing as 1/2
03:32:900 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make these patterns match with the vocal pitch a little more
03:37:408 (1,1,1) - see above
03:42:958 (3) - NC bc 1,2,1,2 jump
03:45:906 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - testplay this thx, low spacing compact streams are :cancer:
03:48:160 (2) - move a little up-right for read
04:08:276 (1) - rip slider art
04:13:478 (2) - move to 238:189 for move natural movement
04:28:565 (4,1,2,1,2) - questionable, testplay this with som1
04:35:848 (1,2,3) - would rather move to somewhere really close to the slider before at like 252:19 or smth

moo
Lasse
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Lasse
pika

[[Pika]] wrote:

[Lass]
00:03:767 (4) - ctrl g maybe no
00:12:958 (3) - move the red node to 403:379 so it provides an angle blanket aesthetic thing looks like shit
00:13:998 (2) - ctrl g eh it feels better to play no it doesn't
00:17:293 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i dont think high 4* players can read this dense stack thing, maybe the last 4 notes = repeat or some shit idk they can
00:28:912 (6) - move a little for reading what
00:34:461 (5) - move to 474:293 bc blanket aesthetic and easier to read ^ fixed stack by a pixel though
00:48:160 (1,1,1) - maybe have this be another 1/3 slider (not necessary) "not necessary"
00:58:392 (3) - ctrl g bc emphasis on background noise dampens other emphases (emphasis plural dont ask me) current makes more sense, as it provides similar movement for similar vocals on sliderbodies on 00:58:045 (2,3) -
01:04:981 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7764420 this would flow better like this because weird intended slider flow vs where your mouse cursor is actually going plays the same due to leniency, suggestion just looks worse
01:12:438 (2,2) - slider stacks :eyes: spooky 2 read i misread it when i played it zzz im bad they are clearly visible
01:24:056 (1,2,3,1) - nice checkmark
01:24:663 (1) - too long (?) no
01:45:733 (3,1,1,1,1) - might wanna have someone testplay this just to be safe it's a simple pattern, I can hit it consistently and I don't even really play anymore
02:03:074 (1) - 1/3 reverse slider maybe no
02:09:489 (1,2,3,4,5) - have this be another 4-reverse 1/4 slider for playability and emphasis on stream leading up to kiai buildup
02:33:420 (1,2,3) - hard to tell that it's 1/4 jump what it's similar to a lot of other 1/4 jumps after 1/4 sliders, no idea why you would mention thin specifically
02:45:039 (1) - this section reminds me of Goodbye to a World by monstrata for some reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
02:58:218 (1,1) - should be 1/1 slider and then 2/1 reverse slider instead for consistency with 02:56:137 (1) - whole part is rhythmic buildup as music keeps progressing
03:07:322 (1) - mfw too lazy to do slider art so kinda just toss a spinner in how would a slider make sense here wtf
03:11:744 (2,3,4) - hard to read because (3) is overlapped and people might misread the spacing as 1/2 similar stacks are introduced much earlier into the map
03:32:900 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make these patterns match with the vocal pitch a little more breaks concept of the whole part and makes no sense as the part mainly follow the wub things spacing wise and is built around grid 4 snap, see 00:42:958 - 01:57:871 (1) -
03:37:408 (1,1,1) - see above
03:42:958 (3) - NC bc 1,2,1,2 jump did you even look at the whole map 00:53:363 (1,2,3,4) - 02:08:276 (1,2,3,4) -
03:45:906 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - testplay this thx, low spacing compact streams are :cancer: as other testplay thing
03:48:160 (2) - move a little up-right for read .
04:08:276 (1) - rip slider art again wondering if you even properly looked over the map 01:19:027 (1) - 02:33:941 -
04:13:478 (2) - move to 238:189 for move natural movement ruins line, axis/rotational symmetry and fuck natural movement
04:28:565 (4,1,2,1,2) - questionable, testplay this with som1 how is that questionable
04:35:848 (1,2,3) - would rather move to somewhere really close to the slider before at like 252:19 or smth doesnt fit emphasis, but I moved 04:35:501 (1,1,2,3) - all a bit and made the triple more spaced

don't expect proper reasoning if you don't give proper reasons for suggestions. also seems like you didn't get lots of the concepts as you suggested be to change like 3 perfect stacks on things 1/1 or further apart when the map is full of them?

https://0paste.com/12547.txt
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[[Pika]] wrote:

late as fuck m4m return because i need to burn my backpack and all of its contents
[300pp]
00:22:496 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7764165 would do something like for jumps (plus it fits) (4,5) also looks kinda bad so eh - changed in a different way since your way ignores emphasis
00:27:524 (4) - rotate by maybe 30 degrees or something for a cleaner entrance from (3) - 00:26:831 (2,4) - ruins this blanket
00:42:091 (5) - would probably move to 113:261 instead for cleaner triangle with 00:41:918 (4,5,1) - triangle looks okay
00:48:276 (2,3) - would suggest NC'ing these for reading (different rhythm spook) - people who play this to fc will be able to read this based on the 1/3 slider before it lol
00:59:432 (1) - move to maybe 139:0 or something unless you really care about that overlap because looks better with 00:59:779 (2) - and vocal emphasis (and then also restack 01:00:646 (5) - - nah it's okay
01:00:819 (6) - would move to 47:366 or something instead because fuck wide triangles - moved a bit
01:01:340 (2) - how about making this a different slider to emphasize vocal start or something - residue vocal is on 1 so it's okay
01:22:669 (3,4,1) - scalene triangle jumps :eggplant: :water:
01:33:420 (3,4) - improve blanket or something
01:46:600 (9) - would maybe overlap on 01:46:773 (1) - instead - i don't get it but looks fine to me
02:03:189 (2,3) - nc - na
02:07:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - going fucking monstrata :eyes:
02:15:039 (3,4,5,6,7) - maybe something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7764265 this for flow - mm i think how it is is okay
02:26:311 (5) - move to 22:293 for better jump - sure actually this fits better
02:28:218 (1,2,3) - i'd rather kill aesthetic theme for playability here because sharp 90 deg snaps are :gun: - it's fine since spacing is relatively low
02:37:756 (4) - did you mean 395:102 because triangle aesthetic when you look at it a certain way - nah im going for flow here
02:49:201 (1) - why not do a Z slider or something, it's a synth sound and you've mapped it with angled sliders so far - true actually
02:50:588 (1) - make slider more angle-y (basically just make every point red and adjust it a little - k
03:12:438 (8) - ctrl g this maybe, better flow and emphasis - holy shit no that would be terrible flow lmfao no thanks
03:30:472 (7,8,1) - more spacing than vocals but is practically on nothing :ok_hand: - fixed
03:37:524 (2,3) - nc
03:41:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - n i c e
03:42:264 (3) - this circle is off, should be more at 123:107 ish - tidied
03:43:305 (1,2,3,4) - make this a straight stream instead of curved so transitioning from jump to aiming stream isnt so awkward - it's not THAT awkward
03:51:629 (1) - make this an angle slider maybe, cleans up emphasis with 03:51:975 (2) - changed a lot here cuz i didn't like it
04:00:126 (3) - you could move this farther to ~:64:39 for cleanliness and moar pp - eyes
04:11:050 (1,2,1,2) - higher spacing and lower pitch :hmm: - overall song emphasis here from a contrast of lower intensity
04:34:461 (2) - overlap the head on 04:34:027 (7) - because looks better owo)b - na m8 i like this more

:stretch: fucking hexagons mate
Thanks, a bit better than Flip Flap but still try to mod within concept (andnotsomuchaesthetics). o/

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VINXIS
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u sud add som rly sik hitsounds to spice up the kiai and breakdowns tht wud b rly cool
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VINXIS wrote:

u sud add som rly sik hitsounds to spice up the kiai and breakdowns tht wud b rly cool
u shud giv maor sugestionz cuz idk wat 2 do

i tried.

Do you have any suggestions cuz I'm not creative enough. LOL
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idk myself LUL
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VINXIS wrote:

idk myself LUL
rip me
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M4M from your queue

Illusory Phenomena
00:17:987 (1) - The sounds in this slider, especially at the end feel too loud to be ignored so you caould shorten the sldier and map those

00:19:027 (1,2) - I would not make 2 clickable as its really quiet, a 1/2 slider would do fine

00:26:311 (1) - There is a vocal and drum sound on this sliderend that can be mapped by using 1/2 + circle

00:39:663 (4) - Starting here it's only circles, why not put some sliders down that follow the intruments like 00:37:409 (1) - , I am probably not the one to say anything after you checked my map but I don't think constant 1/2 jumps work here

00:48:160 (1,2,3,1) - This can probably be ignored but this pattern is exactly like 00:45:039 (1,2,3,4) - for which u used 1/2 gap, so this can confuse some

00:57:524 (3,4,1) - If anything 4 needs more emphasis than 1 as 4 is way louder

01:08:276 (3) - I just really like the way you mapped these sounds :)

01:24:576 (1,3) - The overlap doesn't look very nice

01:37:409 (2,3) - Maybe a blanket here?

02:36:368 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This increase in spacing is just too much, I get you want some emphasis but going from about 1.4x ds to 3.9x is too much

02:38:970 (4,5,6,1) - Would keep spacing between 456 equal and space 1 away form the shape so it has more emphasis as now 56 is the biggest jump

03:43:131 (8,1) - This jumps weird so I would make the stream more in line from 03:43:131 (8) -

Well, this map is way better than mine so this mod is quite a bit shorter so if u also want me to mod mine just say so when you give kudosu as this doesn't feel very equal

Gl with the map :)
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gottagof4ast wrote:

M4M from your queue

[Illusory Phenomena]00:17:987 (1) - The sounds in this slider, especially at the end feel too loud to be ignored so you caould shorten the sldier and map those - I wanna emphasize the bass lowering here :3

00:19:027 (1,2) - I would not make 2 clickable as its really quiet, a 1/2 slider would do fine - Hmm it's part of this increasing intensity pattern so I want to keep it clickable. It's not extremely difficult to hit and isn't highly spaced or anything so yea

00:26:311 (1) - There is a vocal and drum sound on this sliderend that can be mapped by using 1/2 + circle - done

00:39:663 (4) - Starting here it's only circles, why not put some sliders down that follow the intruments like 00:37:409 (1) - , I am probably not the one to say anything after you checked my map but I don't think constant 1/2 jumps work here - if you hear in the back the song is basically just 1/2 spam so in order to represent that i made constant 1/2 jumps. that being said i do emphasize the drums with variable spacing here but i honestly thing jumps fit the best here, it also sets up a contrast with 00:42:958 (1,1) - considering those are sliders after so long without any, which puts really high emphasis on them

00:48:160 (1,2,3,1) - This can probably be ignored but this pattern is exactly like 00:45:039 (1,2,3,4) - for which u used 1/2 gap, so this can confuse some - hmm, nobody has misread this so far and the repeat before that kind of gives away that it's 1/3. we'll see if i change this

00:57:524 (3,4,1) - If anything 4 needs more emphasis than 1 as 4 is way louder - i disagree, the vocals are on 1 along with the downbeat, 4 is just a snare (and is already quite spaced)

01:08:276 (3) - I just really like the way you mapped these sounds :) - hehe thanks

01:24:576 (1,3) - The overlap doesn't look very nice - over..lap? I don't see one

01:37:409 (2,3) - Maybe a blanket here? - nah i think it's okay here

02:36:368 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This increase in spacing is just too much, I get you want some emphasis but going from about 1.4x ds to 3.9x is too much - that's kind of the point, the song picks up massively here for a burst of finality of the chorus. That said I spotted a 4.5x ds jump that just isn't called for so i nerfed that

02:38:970 (4,5,6,1) - Would keep spacing between 456 equal and space 1 away form the shape so it has more emphasis as now 56 is the biggest jump - that's fair

03:43:131 (8,1) - This jumps weird so I would make the stream more in line from 03:43:131 (8) - moved 8 instead

Well, this map is way better than mine so this mod is quite a bit shorter so if u also want me to mod mine just say so when you give kudosu as this doesn't feel very equal

Gl with the map :)
Thanks for the mod! It was still useful so have some kds.
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hey nice job mapping my hero full ver!
C00L
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C00L
actually a good mir map

please play, it's worth your time

xd
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Xexxar wrote:

hey nice job mapping my hero full ver!
go away

Updated with more complex kiai rhythm. And by complex I mean not 1/2 spam yay.
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