spboxer3 wrote:

:idea: general

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  Settings
  (For the setting/general issue.)
  

1. unify all diff's kiai please. Already checked this as several people had mention it and the inconsistency in kiai time make sense for me.

Easy

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  Overlaps
  (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap each other could space them farther apart. Yep. It's just suggest and nazi. you can ignore this par)
  

1. 03:12:537 (1,2) - If you can suggest me better placement, I may change

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 03:13:656 (2) - awkward slider~you can make the layout better~ Listen to bell sound at 03:14:552, that's what I'm trying to represent with this slider shape.
2. 04:07:165 (2,4) - [nazi] you can make it stack~ It's looks like a bit depart off Move a grid down

Normal

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  mapping
  (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  

1. 04:26:641 (5) - parallel it. It's looks like a bit depart off Seem fine to me, just ctrl+H and you should see this

Hard

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  Overlaps
  (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap each other could space them farther apart. yep. It's just suggest and nazi. you can ignore this par)
  

1. 02:02:462 (6,2) - Adjusted

mapping
(These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 02:02:462 (6,1,2,3,4) - awkward pattern. you can make the layout better. I don't see anything really weird, it's just a diamond shape with a circle in the middle. Please explain if you mean something else
2. 03:42:985 (2,4) - stack it? Fixed

red is unrankable issue. bule is need to discuss. Black is just suggest.

that's all
good luck~ ty

Melophobia wrote:

from my modding queue

[General]
consider adding muted sliderslide, it's really noisy I mute for the part that I think don't fit, but I do not think muting for the whole song is good here.

[Easy]
00:12:537 (1) - change to soft finish like you did on others diff plz Done
00:27:089 (1,1) - kinda soon after spinner Song is quite slow, should be fine, since this was map so long ago and not mapped by me, no consideration was taken for placing rest after a spinner. I also have other reasons why (I do not agree with having a pause after a spinner at all for Easy & Normal), but they are long and I think these two reasons are good enough.
01:31:567 (1) - ^ ^
01:45:671 - break should start here I prefer break starting immediately, I see the reason for doing them, but I get more annoy by the fact that after waiting 1-2 seconds for note to appear, there were no notes to hit, just that the break was delayed so I will not do this for any of my beatmap except for consistency in guest diffs.
01:51:492 (1) - why not make this symmetrical? Made it better, but can't seem to get it perfectly symmetrical without making the curve too big even without grid snap.
01:52:835 - break should start here Same reason as before
01:59:328 (1) - add finish at the end Done with reduced volume
03:27:761 - break should start here Same reason as before

[Normal]
00:02:014 (4) - finish doesnt fit here Listen to the sound on the white tick just after this note and the way vocal sing this make me feel this finish is fine
01:45:671 - break should start here Same as in Easy
01:52:835 - ^ ^
02:00:000 (2) - finish Done with reduced volume
02:20:820 (1) - add finish at the end and remove it from beginning Add at end, didn't remove from begin as I hear cymbal at both place, just make the first finish a bit quieter then the second (10%)
02:30:671 (1,2) - 1grid left K
02:45:000 (1) - try to make this start at 02:45:223 - instead to follow vocal better I'm worry that spinner will be too short so do not want to change this and since there is no hitsound at begin of spinner, shouldn't be a significant problem.
02:51:716 (2) - break should start here Same reason as before

[Hard]
00:05:373 (4,5) - whistle? The sound here sound a bit lower pitch then the others so I don't think a high pitch sound like whistle fit here.
00:27:985 (1,4) - switch these newcombos for change of melody This combo seem fine, vocal start singing here and I think (4) still belong in the same vocal phase. I have kept to new combo patterns like this for all my beatmaps.
00:38:283 (5) - finish doesnt fit here imo Sound fine to me, I can hear a background sound which can justify this finish.
01:04:925 (5,6) - it's better to keep spacing, both plays fine but the current one looks bad imo I don't think it was intentional so fixed.
01:23:955 (3) - add finish at the end I have already consider this, but was against this idea because a finish is a very strong sound so when I put it, it accent a note a lot, it felt weird having the accent on the end of a slider and playing the hit circles afterward so I decide not to do it.
01:45:671 - break should start here Same as Easy
01:52:835 - ^ ^
02:00:000 (4) - add finish at the beginning Yep, done
02:06:716 (1) - remove whistle from the end Hmm, ok, I do not think it sound bad through, but transition to stream seem nicer due to like I mention, accent at end of slider feel weird to me.
02:07:164 - add whistle Sound weird having whistle 1/2 next to each other.
02:14:776 (5) - clap+finish sounds bad, remove clap plz I find the clap after this weird without the clap on here.
02:34:477 (11) - finish doesnt fit here Sound fine, way vocal sing and drum make the finish sound just fine to me. I didn't really use custom hitsound on this beatmap so sometime just use finish instead for sound like this.
02:42:761 (1) - remove finish from the beginning and add it at the end Just add to end, can hear cymbal at both place.
02:55:298 (3) - add finish at the end Same reason as before
03:27:761 - break should start here ^
03:43:656 (4) - 1grid up Fix in earlier mod
03:45:671 (1) - normal sound is better than soft finish~ Hm, ok
03:47:014 (1) - clap? Add to all place where there is clap in the background with reduced volume
04:10:522 (3) - add finish at the end Same reason as before, I may reconsider again with a really reduced volume finish through. But at this point in time, I still do not like finish here.
04:32:238 - Kiai should end here I don't agree, I consider the stream here to be part of the new section and I don't think the slider belong in the kiai.
04:37:388 (4) - add finish instead of whistle Done


i like this song so much, but i dont like this map especially hitsounding I don't agree with hitsound being bad, I think they're quite solid, but can use some modding. I'm more worry about the patterns in Hard. There are quite a lot of patterns which I'm not really happy about, but no one seem to be mention them :S I ain't going to lie through, it took me a long time to finish this because I couldn't think of nice way to map this, but I'm still trying hard to find way to make it better rather than letting it go to graveyard as it was my first beatmap and for all the effort the modders and guest diffs have done for me for my first beatmap.

MoodyRPG wrote:

Hi.

General

1. Inconsistency in Kiai times if you can see here, so yeah you need to fix that Already checked them and they end where I want them in all diff (do not want to end kiai time during a spinner for example or when there is no note)
2. The last Timing Section is useless in my opinion, can you remove? I think it follow music better like this, would like a good reason to remove this.

Easy

• - 01:07:164 (1) - Remove new combo please It's fine to me, I assume you want me to remove because it's a one note combo. Incase of other reasons, the previous note is following previous vocal phase and the one after is the next vocal phase. This the only note to follow chorus.
  - 02:32:686 (2,3,4) - Center these notes please to being symetric Adjust a little
  - 02:38:507 (1) - Remove this useless new combo please Same reason as before
  - 03:07:164 (1) - ^ Ok, and remove from all other kiai times (as they share the same combo pattern)
  - 03:27:761 (x) - Drag this break to 03:27:761,looks nice in my opinion I don't like delaying breaks
  - 03:59:328 (1) - Put this note in the center please Ok

Normal

• -- A little hard this diff but it's ok That's good to me, Hard was originally intend to be Insane so I was very worry that difficulty jump from Normal to Hard will be too high.
  - 00:12:089 (2,3) - Resnap these objects in the center please Ok

Hard

• -- AR8 is a bad idea for a Hard diff so reduce one tick It's the hardest diff in this beatmap (DarknessAngel's diff is extra) and I do not think all paterns would play well with ar 7.
  - 00:58:208 (1) - Remove this new combo please, doesn't fit well in this part Make sense to me, the two combos are following different thing in the music, 00:57:537 (1,2,1,2) - are following the same thing, while 00:58:208 (1,2,3,4) - another.
  - 00:59:328 (1) - ^ ^
  - 01:24:179 (3) - Add a finish for being consistent in the end of slider As mention in a previous mod, I don't want to accent the end of a slider (putting finish - a strong hitsound - at end accents the end) because if I do this, it feel weird to play the hit circles afterward. I' have mentioned through that I may consider doing really reduced volume finish in the future.
  - 02:29:552 (1) - Remove new combo here too Same reason as before
  - 02:30:671 (1) - Same ^ ^
  - 04:10:522 (3) - Same suggestion, add a finish in the end of the slider ^
  - 04:27:761 (1,2,3,4) - nazi*, center these objects please Look at 04:26:417 (2) -, this is why placement is like this.

And done, long song btw but it's ok :3 Good luck

Dark Fang wrote:

Hi
from Fang Team's queue
Let's mod

Red : must fix(Unrankable)
Bold : should fix

[General]

Discord KIAI time edit plz Already check and it's fine (read reply to previous mod posts if you want to know why)
04:52:320 - if you unused this Timing point. Can you remove it? Fine to me, follow music better at end with this timing point

[Easy]

00:00:447 (2) - add Whistle at tail? Added and also add to another part here
04:14:329 (1) - ^ I don't think whistle fits with bass sound
Fine

[Normal]

AR-1? because too fast for noob Not good difficulty jump to Hard if I do this

00:00:000 (1) - add Whistle at tail? Ok
00:02:014 (4) - Remove Finish in tail of slider. and add Finish 00:03:582 - here Replace finish with whistle, whistle is fine for 00:03:582
00:31:790 (2) - add Finish at tail? Finish sound too high pitch compare to the sound here
00:35:597 (2) - add Finish at head? Don't hear any cymbal here and sound weird to me
02:40:970 (3,4,5) - don't stack some players(noob) can't see or confusion this note I'm worry about difficulty jump from Normal > Hard so I'm keeping this pattern (I want Normal to be more difficult as Hard has some jump which are more fitting for Insane)
02:51:716 (2) - add Finish? Whistle sound nicer with hi hat
02:54:850 (1) - add Finish ad tail? ^
04:06:940 (2) - add Finish? ^, but add whistle for consistency with previous patterns

[Hard]

02:41:865 (6) - try Ctrl + R this slider. and adjust Distance. it looks more good This look better to me with what I want to do (I want jump on (6)
03:36:492 (3,4) - try make like this? it looks more pretty Done

good good this is good map Ty

Star~

Vass_Bass wrote:

Hi~

General
Ehh bad quality of the combobursts, may be you will remove them? or make another one Don't think they are noticeable in gameplay, should be fine imo
02:14:776 - you can add fountain there Good idea, change for my diff, I'll leave it to DarknessAngel whether to change or not for D.N. Angel

Easy
00:35:820 - finish would be better (?) Finish doesn't really fit well with bass drum, whistle seem fine to me for the other sound (piano I think)
01:27:089 - remove finish there I can sort of hear cymbal here + hi hat
01:45:671 - replace break there I do not like delayed break

Normal
Wanna that normal sounds, like in easy D: Someone else mapped part of the Easy for me, I choose to kept to the same hitsounding style he used.
HP = 4, OD = 3 This is fine or else difficulty jump to Hard won't be nice
00:00:895 - whistle Add in earlier mod
00:27:985 (1,2) - stack them I want it to line up with the repeat on 00:29:104 (3) - and I like the current slider shape, so keeping this
01:05:820 (1) - stack with (2) ^
01:45:671 - break there Same reason as in Easy
03:56:865 (1,2,3) - make it symmetrical about the axis Ah lazy here, fixed
04:32:238 - sounds quiet D: Fine to me, can hear finish quite clearly


Hard
May be custom claps? default clap seem fine to me, if you have a good suggestion for replacement, tell me
00:00:447 (2) - whistle Just add to all hit circles
01:22:611 (5,6) - stack them Feel like a jump and not a stack to me
01:27:313 - note there Added
01:42:313 (1,3,5) - whistle Feel weird to play this with current spacing as all note are snap to the same, but when you add hitsound, certain notes are more accented. I'll consider this if I change this pattern to represent music better.
01:45:671 - break there Same reason as Easy
02:10:746 (3,4) - eeeh nno, better slider with reverse I want you to hit everytime there is a finish, did short sliders since you don't need to accurately hit them to get 300.
02:14:776 (5) - nc I follow vocal
03:13:656 (1,3)and 03:14:552 - whistle Same reason as before
03:45:671 - add more normal sounds like there in this part I don't hear anywhere to add custom clap in this section.
04:31:567 - 04:31:902 - add slider there I want to emphasize vocal and by following instrument, I feel the emphasis on vocal is lost

Good luck

Matoryoshika wrote:

Hello, I got this from #modrequest Probably the first #modreq mod I've ever got
and.. sorry if my english is not good enough

[General]

1. Because this is a full-length song how about reduce it size? I tried to convert it into smaller size (4.60mb) and I think the quality is same, you should try it --> http://puu.sh/vYJs think it's fine,128kbs is a very noticeable quality lost for me, artifact in mp3 because much more noticeable. Best way to describe it is that the vocal voice seem to vibrates mode, bass + cymbal seems off to the other sound and when there are several sounds playing, the sounds don't sound in harmony with each other.
2. How about change it offset to -1343? (optional) I don't really see a reason for this, offset is already 0 so see no reason to go even lower.

[Easy]

1. Why you don't add clap with custom slidertick like in 00:34:029 and 00:37:611 ? I'm sure you know how to do it I don't really like slider tick sound, it's a bit distraughting especially when too loud and if I wanted hitsound there, I would change my rhythm instead. Best example I can give is to silence the begin of a slider and put finish and 100% at the end. Plays weird right? Similar feel here for me.
2. 01:51:492 (1) - Remove this? lol up to you This is fine, break feel too long for me

[Normal]

1. 00:59:552 (2,3) - less spacing? perhaps~ Adjust a little
2. NC at 01:26:417 rather than at 01:27:537 ? I follow vocal for new combo and the current place is where I feel the new vocal phase starts
3. 01:51:492 (1) - remove this? (optional Same as Easy
4. 04:33:134 (1,2,3,4) - instead of like this, why you don't use the slider? I think it's fine for difficulty jump to Hard. Some jumps in Hard are more suitable for Insane, so making Normal too easy won't be nice.
5. 04:40:298 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^

[Hard]

[*]HP Drain Rate -1? but because this is the highest diff it's okay This is fine like you said, this is hardest diff in mapset.

I think this map is good enough to be ranked ( 0w0)b

Star Stream wrote:

From my queue

[Easy]

1. 00:31:791 (1,2) - switch NC due to downbeat? This is fine for me due to the vocal
2. 00:39:402 (6) - start combo from here to separate the long combo and can be read more easily Add on (5) and change for similar pattern
3. 00:50:597 - finish? It's a bass sound, don't think cymbal sound good
4. 01:26:417 (2) - feels empty, move it to 01:26:194 - and add 1 arrow I like how it is right now, it's emphasize the finish really well and if I add a repeat, I feel the effect is not as good.
5. 01:51:492 (1) - just 1 slider? i can hear finish sound soon, so i suggest to add 1 arrow on this slider and add a circle with finish on 01:52:835 - Listen to the sound here, it's different from all other sound in this section and this is the only sound I want to follow here.
6. 02:10:745 (6) - same as 00:39:402 (6) - As mentioned, changed
7. 02:14:775 (2) - the clap is useless imo, also annoying, remove? Clap pattern sound weird to me without it
8. 02:57:760 (2) - same as 01:26:417 (2) -, and plus ctrl+r will be good Same reason as before
9. 03:02:910 (1) - overlapped with spinner's approach circle, confusing to noob players, put somewhere but center I'm leaving this due to lot of inconsistency with what modders are mentioning regarding notes after spinner. Some people say to put center, some people say not to. I like how my pattern looks here so keeping this.
10. 03:13:656 (2) - 2grid right the red tick will be looks good with 03:12:537 (1) - Did something like that
11. 03:24:179 - finish? Done and change for Insane
12. 03:59:328 (1) - 3/2 will be confusing a bit :/ delete it and add 1 arrow on 03:57:985 (3) - instead? I think the sound that I'm following here is prominent enough not to be confusing.
13. 04:18:358 - finish? Bass drum + hi hat here, I only do finish on cymbal so no for here
14. 04:42:089 (1,2) - switch NC i think melody changed from 04:42:537 (2) - Done

[Normal]

1. 01:51:492 (1) - same as Easy Same reason
2. 02:09:626 - remove finish Hm, I think this sound fine to me even through it's not follow cymbal. Maybe change later.

Good luck with rank~

hoLysoup wrote:

Signature hoLysoup 1month delayed mod in-coming!
I'm really sorry I suck at modding on time. LOL. lol np


[Hard]
00:08:731 - Hitsounds are fine but I think volume is too high here. Overpowers the music and her voice. You should lower it to just 75% or 80%. The spinner here 00:12:537 (1) - can stay at 95% though, it's pretty good with it. Changed to 75% + for Normal too.
00:25:074~00:27:761 - Since you decided to map this part unlike [DNAngel] he left it blank, My opinion here is to follow the strong beats and put a SC:1 clap on them. Like on these: 00:25:074 (1), 00:25:746 (5), end of 00:26:194 (6), and 00:27:985 (1). K did that except for 00:27:985, I want focus to be on vocal there and not instrument.
00:40:970 (6,7,8) - new rhythm! NC on (6) would be really nice Someone also suggest this, but I still prefer it like this :/
01:00:223 (2) - well since there's no SV changes in the diff at all, it'd create a really nice effect if this slider was slowed by maybe 0.80x or 0.75x and NC it if you do. Oh and also, this is just my opinion: please remove the whistle from the slider body, just the body no the head. Leave the whistle on head it's great but slider body overpowers the music. Slider velocity change seem good so done and remove silent slider body instead
01:04:029 (2) - You missed a clap? Goes well with the music here I didn't put any clap at all in this section so that's why, but you're right that clap sound good here so done.
01:10:970 (8) - ^ on the slider end K done
01:16:567 (4) - remove this clap maybe? I feel that it's quite weird since there's none in the music and kiai's about to hit. It almost feels like it's just misplaced by accident Hmm, I don't think it sound too weird, but you're right there's nothing in the music here. However I notice hi hat sound so whistle for this part instead and all similar pattern
01:41:194 (1,2,3,4) - move together towards the right by 1 grid? (grid level 4) Done
02:35:373 (2) - clap on slider head Done all
02:38:843 (2) - ^
02:42:313 (7) - ^
03:55:074 (4) - can curve a little better~ http://puu.sh/x0NO Made a little better
04:38:507 (4,5,6) - New Rhythm~ NC pLease~ Hm, they still feel like they belong in the same combo to me, sorry :/
that's iT!

[Normal]
00:39:626 (3) - actually this type of slider blanket works better with 4 point: http://puu.sh/x0TD Should be better now
00:40:970 (6) - NC here perhaps? The placement of the beats and sliders in this area can create a bit of a confusion. The rhythm's simple but the placement makes rhythm confusing. Hm, same feeling as Insane, just feel like they should be in same combo. As for placement, really can't think of anything right now, any suggestions?
01:28:880 (3) - curve this slider? :> , I would definitely curve this, but it doesn't look good with my current pattern so no change for now
01:41:641 (3) - remove whistle from slider body? Silent it instead
03:59:328 (4) - move this to centre? K
04:37:835 (3) - This is just me.. I don't like more than 1 repeat on lower difficulties, it's very confusing~ especially since it follows soon after a normal 1 repeat slider 04:35:820 (4) Hm, yeah I don't map with kick sliders anymore, but I like how they are used here, would like to keep some of the stuff I did when I was less experienced in mapping so just keeping them for now. Since this isn't the easiest diff in mapset, should be fine.
04:44:999 (2) - ^
03:55:522 (5) - ^
That's all~

Easy is fine~
whoa this is older than my map :> Yeah, very old map. Thanks for careful hitsound modding, I was really lazy on the hitsound here and general polishing. Also thanks for the slider velocity change suggestion, I really like it