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Rurree
It's okay. Whether he's trolling or not (I think he's not, what he's doing is way too much effort for "trolling") doesn't matter much since what I'm saying is available for others to take note upon anyway..
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T3ars_old

Madvillain wrote:

It's okay. Whether he's trolling or not (I think he's not, what he's doing is way too much effort for "trolling") doesn't matter much since what I'm saying is available for others to take note upon anyway..
Exactly what I tried to say..
vipto
Have you responded yet?
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T3ars_old
@vipto Yes! I have actually sat down and built up courage to go through with chatting with this girl I've met irl.. I'm taking it pretty slow and really thinking of what to reply so that I don't kill it while I'm trying to keep it interesting at the same time and so far it is working I think..

I have read this resource that Blitzfrog recomended(http://www.everydayhealth.com/columns/therese-borchard-sanity-break/10-quick-ways-to-calm-down/) and it is actually helping me a lot while typing and thinking of what to type.. What I think is pretty cool is that I tried pulling some jokes in the chat and I've got laughing responses which makes me feel that I was funny and she liked it.. It is a really cool feeling..

Though all this sounds like it is starting to go well I've now had some really bad thoughts following me while I'm putting it all to rest.. Like what when I achieve this goal of mine.. What will happend then.. Will I even become happy out of doing all of this? I called my dad and explained to him and it was pretty comforting, he said it was good of me to try pactice and fighting my problem.. I also tried explaining to him about how I feel.. The best way I can describe it is that there is a cloud of negativity following me all the time in my head.. It is really hard to put into words..

I'm thinking of inviting this girl I have been chatting with to a cup of coffee.. During the party I think that she noticed that I was pretty shy towards her and I just got the feeling that she understood me.. But at the same time I do not know how theese things work.. We've been chatting for like 2 days ~ maybe it is too early.. And she knows my friends.. What if I fuck it up.. It would be soo embarassing..

I'm having really mixed feelings right now..
vipto
Sounds good so far, I am glad you are able to help yourself feel better in some way. Take it slowly though, these kind of things need to settle for quite some time. Take it for what it is and don't over think.

As towards the girl you are talking to, make absolutely sure she's not messing with you. You're vulnerable from what I can tell. I see you are a nice and genuine person but that just leaves you open to being exploited.
Really make sure she's worth your trust or whatever and remember, a girl talking to you does not automatically mean she is into you, nor is meeting up to drink coffee. There isn't really anything you could fuck up.
Blitzfrog
Yeah

Victim of getting played by girls here. Just make sure you can back off if need to. Remember, girls are just like you, they're nothing scary really.
Topic Starter
T3ars_old
@vipto Yeah I think you're right! How can I notice if she is just messing with me? I don't really expect her to be into me or anything like that.. I just want to make a new friend that is a girl.. Saw this as a chance to practice speaking to one in real life..

@Blitzfrog Yeah.. I will try keep that in mind.. Thanks again for your links they are actually really good articles!

I think that I am going to ask this girl out for a coffee.. Not to try to hit on her but to try make a new friend.. Even though all of this is really making me go out of my way and feel a bit down.. Maybe it will get better.. Or worse..
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T3ars_old
2017-02-28 Update
I decided not to ask the girl out because my mood is swinging like a roller coaster right now.. One day I can feel strong and want to fight and actually have motivation to do something in life but the next I feel like it is just over.. It is really hard to explain to other people but the closest I can come is that I am so fucking scared of rejection or failure and I fucking hate myself for it.. I've been reading theese articles posted by nice people like Blitzfrog and trying to follow advice from really smart people here on the forum as well as other places on the internet but I simply don't know how to change.. how to fix it..

I need to pause with trying to be able to talk to girls.. To be happy with someone else you have to be happy with yourself first and I'm not fucking happy right now..

Lately it feels like I'm getting consumed by my dark / suicidal thoughts and it makes me feel even worse since I know that there is people that has it much worse in the world.. Why am I such a bitch..

I know that this is not healthy and I need to get help.. I'm just soo tired of it all.. I want to just go away from all people and live alone on an island or something..
Blitzfrog
Well that saying only works when your problem isn't social anxiety. If you avoid your problem, you ain't making yourself happy. Since you're unhappy because you can't talk, backing off and not trying to talk isn't going to help. Give it another shot dude.

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Shota
I know this may not relate all too much about what the topic at hand is. But I was taught this by my helper. If you are in a panicked state and if you are alone or can put yourself in a setting where you are alone. Try doing this,** note it will sting, but it does work. **

Get a bucket or a bowl of ice cold water and dip DOWN aka bend into the water until your face stings. This will slow down your heart rate naturally (and the rest of your body) and will only take 1min or so to fix any sort of panic attack. Note this will not work if you pull your face out too soon or if you are not bending. What you are doing it putting your body into a survival state, making everything slow down so that it can focus on keeping itself alive.

So it will instantly relax your heart rate and you'll go back to normal in a flash. **however, it will be painful, but this is better than being in a panicked state**
lifeisonlydark

Shota wrote:

I know this may not relate all too much about what the topic at hand is. But I was taught this by my helper. If you are in a panicked state and if you are alone or can put yourself in a setting where you are alone. Try doing this,** note it will sting, but it does work. **

Get a bucket or a bowl of ice cold water and dip DOWN aka bend into the water until your face stings. This will slow down your heart rate naturally (and the rest of your body) and will only take 1min or so to fix any sort of panic attack. Note this will not work if you pull your face out too soon or if you are not bending. What you are doing it putting your body into a survival state, making everything slow down so that it can focus on keeping itself alive.

So it will instantly relax your heart rate and you'll go back to normal in a flash. **however, it will be painful, but this is better than being in a panicked state**
You know, you can die from that you retard
Blitzfrog

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You know, you can die from that you retard
Because people don't know to pull their face out when they are about to die
Shota

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You know, you can die from that you retard
I wouldn't have been recommended it by my helper if it wasn't safe. : ) Aren't you smart?

Blitzfrog wrote:

Because people don't know to pull their face out when they are about to die
Thanks for defending me pal
lifeisonlydark

Shota wrote:

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You know, you can die from that you retard
I wouldn't have been recommended it by my helper if it wasn't safe. : ) Aren't you smart?

Blitzfrog wrote:

Because people don't know to pull their face out when they are about to die
Thanks for defending me pal

You can fall into a shock and pass out, who's there to pull your head out then?

Also after reading this topic, my conclusion is that t3ars is pretty dumb.
Shota

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You can fall into a shock and pass out, who's there to pull your head out then?

Also after reading this topic, my conclusion is that t3ars is pretty dumb.
That's why you don't keep your face in for long you're just looking for dumb reasons to start a small flame war between me and blitz. It's perfectly safe, it's not like you are keeping yourself underwater for 4-5mins.

After reading your past few comments, I have come to the conclusion you are a judging person who looks down on others and believes they are better than everyone.
Blitzfrog

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You can fall into a shock and pass out, who's there to pull your head out then?

Also after reading this topic, my conclusion is that t3ars is pretty dumb.

Here I thought I was a Retard in life. Seems like I'm not doing so bad
Because shock factors comes into play when you prepare the scenario yourself
Railey2

Blitzfrog wrote:

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You can fall into a shock and pass out, who's there to pull your head out then?

Also after reading this topic, my conclusion is that t3ars is pretty dumb.

Here I thought I was a Retard in life. Seems like I'm not doing so bad
Because shock factors comes into play when you prepare the scenario yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_shock_response
not
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_stress_reaction


shush
lifeisonlydark

Shota wrote:

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You can fall into a shock and pass out, who's there to pull your head out then?

Also after reading this topic, my conclusion is that t3ars is pretty dumb.
That's why you don't keep your face in for long you're just looking for dumb reasons to start a small flame war between me and blitz. It's perfectly safe, it's not like you are keeping yourself underwater for 4-5mins.

After reading your past few comments, I have come to the conclusion you are a judging person who looks down on others and believes they are better than everyone.
How is it "perfectly safe"? The fact that you could literally pass out and drown yourself isn't something I would call "perfectly safe". Do everyone a favor and stop giving absolute garbage advices.
Also, the fact that you conclude my personality after literally 2 comments makes me believe that you're even more retarded than I could comprehend. You're not an psychologist and you should stop pretending to be one, you obnoxious cunt
Blitzfrog

Railey2 wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_(circulatory)
not
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_stress_reaction


shush
You didn't get the joke.



lifeisonlydark wrote:

absolute garbage advices

lifeisonlydark wrote:

You know, you can die from that you retard

lifeisonlydark wrote:

Also after reading this topic, my conclusion is that t3ars is pretty dumb.
I wonder why he judged you
I wonder why....
Railey2

lifeisonlydark wrote:

How is it "perfectly safe"? The fact that you could literally pass out and drown yourself isn't something I would call "perfectly safe". Do everyone a favor and stop giving absolute garbage advices.
Also, the fact that you conclude my personality after literally 2 comments makes me believe that you're even more retarded than I could comprehend. You're not an psychologist and you should stop pretending to be one, you obnoxious cunt
oh damn


@blitzfrog: Make better jokes then
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T3ars_old
@Shota Thanks for that advice.. I will read up on it a bit.. Might be good with some ways to get out of stress or panic attacks.

@lifeisonlydark What have I ever done to you? :(
Shota
"You're not an psychologist and you should stop pretending to be one"

I am giving advice a psychologist gave me, wow you're so smart. I'm not acting like one I'm just giving advice. 2 SMART 4 ME

T3ars wrote:

@Shota Thanks for that advice.. I will read up on it a bit.. Might be good with some ways to get out of stress or panic attacks.
I'm glad I could help bud : )
B1rd
What are you even on about, you don't pass out from dipping your face in ice-water.


Cold water raises blood pressure and makes you more alert. What some people actually have died from is drowning in a hot bath in combination with alcohol because they both lower blood pressure and can make you pass out.
Blitzfrog

T3ars wrote:

@lifeisonlydark What have I ever done to you? :(
Nothing.
There are just those like him lurking around the internet. Judging by his username and his way of speech, probably had experiences that's not so nice and can't get out of it. So he tries to spread that feeling to others as well


B1rd wrote:

What are you even on about, you don't pass out from dipping your face in ice-water.
Probably referring to the ice bucket challenge.
Lots of people died from shock due to that
Railey2

Shota wrote:

"You're not an psychologist and you should stop pretending to be one"

I am giving advice a psychologist gave me, wow you're so smart. I'm not acting like one I'm just giving advice. 2 SMART 4 ME
he referred to your incredibly superficial judgment of his character, which you gave out after reading about 3 sentences from him in total. He wasn't referring to your conversation with T3ars.
B1rd

Blitzfrog wrote:

Probably referring to the ice bucket challenge.
Lots of people died from shock due to that
No. They didn't.
Railey2

B1rd wrote:

What are you even on about, you don't pass out from dipping your face in ice-water.


Cold water raises blood pressure and makes you more alert. What some people actually have died from is drowning in a hot bath in combination with alcohol because they both lower blood pressure and can make you pass out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_shock_response

this is actually the right one, thanks for pointing that out, hah
thats what i get for not paying enough attention. There you go.

The point still stands though, since Blitzfrog was clearly thinking of a different shock when he made his comment.
Blitzfrog

B1rd wrote:

Blitzfrog wrote:

Probably referring to the ice bucket challenge.
Lots of people died from shock due to that
No. They didn't.

Yeah they didn't, but he probably heard something about that

Railey2 wrote:

The point still stands though, since Blitzfrog was clearly thinking of a different shock when he made his comment.
Read the first sentence.....
lifeisonlydark

T3ars wrote:

@Shota Thanks for that advice.. I will read up on it a bit.. Might be good with some ways to get out of stress or panic attacks.

@lifeisonlydark What have I ever done to you? :(

T3ars you're acting like such a bitch.
In all your stories you overthink everything you encounter which makes me think you have autism.
If you can't handle simple situations in life, you should stop trying because it will only get worse for you the older you get.

Just fucking give up
Blitzfrog

lifeisonlydark wrote:

T3ars you're acting like such a bitch.
In all your stories you overthink everything you encounter which makes me think you have autism.
If you can't handle simple situations in life, you should stop trying because it will only get worse for you the older you get.

Just fucking give up
Oh boy
He is aggro
Shota

Railey2 wrote:

Shota wrote:

"You're not an psychologist and you should stop pretending to be one"

I am giving advice a psychologist gave me, wow you're so smart. I'm not acting like one I'm just giving advice. 2 SMART 4 ME
he referred to your incredibly superficial judgment of his character, which you gave out after reading about 3 sentences from him in total. He wasn't referring to your conversation with T3ars.
Doesn't take much to figure out someone's personality more so by how they act around others. More so when they have done nothing ill towards them, such as him insulting T3ars. I'm sure you already can get the feel for my personality by reading how I type and speak. Why are you defending him?

Why are you guys attacking a simple thing I just wanted to give out for advice? Do you guys have nothing better to do? I'm sure he could easily look it up himself and see if he finds it safe enough for him. He is capable enough. No need to bash me and others over advice I gave, get over yourselves.
lifeisonlydark

Shota wrote:

"You're not an psychologist and you should stop pretending to be one"

I am giving advice a psychologist gave me, wow you're so smart. I'm not acting like one I'm just giving advice. 2 SMART 4 ME

T3ars wrote:

@Shota Thanks for that advice.. I will read up on it a bit.. Might be good with some ways to get out of stress or panic attacks.
I'm glad I could help bud : )
Giving an advice like yours when you don't know the physical health of the person is fucking stupid. Stop pretending to be clever.
Railey2
i really don't see it blitzfrog.

anyway gonna go to sleep, have fun peoples lol


@Shota, i wasn't defending him but you clearly misunderstood what he meant and yes your analysis was very superficial. This is true independently from what i think about the guy, so idk what you're talking about.

Also if you think you're good at handing out quick judgments.. look up correspondence bias and maybe some other stuff that gets linked on the same wikipedia page, if you're interested in psychology.
Shota

lifeisonlydark wrote:

Giving an advice like yours when you don't know the physical health of the person is fucking stupid. Stop pretending to be clever.
Read what I just typed above smart ass
Topic Starter
T3ars_old
@lifeisonlydark Wow.. This actualy made me quite sad.. :(
Shota

T3ars wrote:

@lifeisonlydark Wow.. This actually made me quite sad.. :(
Ignore him, he's just salty because people are bashing on him. People with no social issues or mental issues most of the time believe they are not real and that the issues are all in our heads. I'm assuming, he may have something but, I don't know.
B1rd

Railey2 wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_shock_response

this is actually the right one, thanks for pointing that out, hah
thats what i get for not paying enough attention. There you go.

The point still stands though, since Blitzfrog was clearly thinking of a different shock when he made his comment.
Well from what I am aware, shock as a medical term usually is something from the result of loss of blood.

Cold shock response is interesting, I've experienced it quite a few times from taking a full cold shower, or jumping in really cold water, it makes you hyperventilate. Though like the article says, it's not usually fatal in itself, it's usually due to an underlying heart condition or drowning. People in places like Finland do Ice-water as a sport, so it's obviously not that dangerous. I actually believe that it's good for your health, and it's feels sorta good to take a cold shower and experience the big physiological response from your body from the cold shock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_bath
Blitzfrog

T3ars wrote:

@lifeisonlydark Wow.. This actualy made me quite sad.. :(

Good way to practise ignoring dude
He judged you after a few posts
Shota

B1rd wrote:

Railey2 wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_shock_response

this is actually the right one, thanks for pointing that out, hah
thats what i get for not paying enough attention. There you go.

The point still stands though, since Blitzfrog was clearly thinking of a different shock when he made his comment.
Well from what I am aware, shock as a medical term usually is something from the result of loss of blood.

Cold shock response is interesting, I've experienced it quite a few times from taking a full cold shower, or jumping in really cold water, it makes you hyperventilate. Though like the article says, it's not usually fatal in itself, it's usually due to an underlying heart condition or drowning. People in places like Finland do Ice-water as a sport, so it's obviously not that dangerous. I actually believe that it's good for your health, and it's feels sorta good to take a cold shower and experience the big physiological response from your body from the cold shock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_bath
Thank you b1rd, for helping me out here. Haha I can't believe people don't trust a professional workers advice.
Blitzfrog

Shota wrote:

Thank you b1rd, for helping me out here. Haha I can't believe people don't trust a professional workers advice.
To be fair, we have no way to know that you got that from a professional
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