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balognya
For the start, i think instead of a reverse slider, it should be a burst into a reverse slider. I also think the spacing should be a little bit more after the scream section and there be a variety of 3-5bursts into reverse sliders. There's not much i can say for the rest of the map because it all seems great so far to me

Sorry im a garbage modder and i dont know how to timestamp lol. Suggestions might help a bit (i think).
Topic Starter
PoNo

Codyy wrote:

For the start, i think instead of a reverse slider, it should be a burst into a reverse slider. The reason I've used a repeat slider here is to help the player to be more accurate with the next streams, because I think start the map directly on a stream can be difficult to accurate correctly.

I also think the spacing should be a little bit more after the scream section and there be a variety of 3-5bursts into reverse sliders. This should be better with timestamp D:, to link a timestamp just go into editor, copy the object you want to timestamp and paste it in a textbox (forum, pm etc...)

There's not much i can say for the rest of the map because it all seems great so far to me

Sorry im a garbage modder and i dont know how to timestamp lol. Suggestions might help a bit (i think).
Broly
04:51:570 (2) - I would make this into a 1/2 slider imo, felt a little awkward when I played it, maybe it's just me.
05:07:661 (11) - Shouldn't this be NC'ed?
08:02:682 (9) - ^ Maybe here too?

I'm not really a good modder so feel free to object to any of these these but this map is pretty good.

Topic Starter
PoNo

Broly wrote:

04:51:570 (2) - I would make this into a 1/2 slider imo, felt a little awkward when I played it, maybe it's just me. I'm not specially fine to place a 1/2 here, could be too long, I prefer that one who's more direct
05:07:661 (11) - Shouldn't this be NC'ed? I don't like to NC streams end ^^'
08:02:682 (9) - ^ Maybe here too? Ok for that one

I'm not really a good modder so feel free to object to any of these these but this map is pretty good.
saggi
imo better than the ranked one
pkk
Offset should be 55 (+30) if you're still working on this
Topic Starter
PoNo

pkk wrote:

Offset should be 55 (+30) if you're still working on this
Yeah thanks, I changed the mp3 and replace a wrong timing :/, and yes i'm still working on that. Searching BNs actually
saggi
04:52:418 (1) - the best part
04:52:418 (1,2) - not better to stack it?
(sorry for that i didnt edit my lastest answer im dumb)
Topic Starter
PoNo

DominiGG wrote:

04:52:418 (1) - the best part
04:52:418 (1,2) - not better to stack it?
(sorry for that i didnt edit my lastest answer im dumb)
I changed whole sliders with SV
Xantaria
I feel like the section starting at 4:18 should definitely be a stream, stamina is completely fine at this part my hands are actually begging to stream there
Topic Starter
PoNo

Xantaria wrote:

I feel like the section starting at 4:18 should definitely be a stream, stamina is completely fine at this part my hands are actually begging to stream there
Why not, but I don't really want to make this tbh ^^' it's just adding free difficulty for no real reason imo
Xantaria

Ponoyoshi wrote:

Xantaria wrote:

I feel like the section starting at 4:18 should definitely be a stream, stamina is completely fine at this part my hands are actually begging to stream there
Why not, but I don't really want to make this tbh ^^' it's just adding free difficulty for no real reason imo
It also would fit to the music and put it in line iwth the rest of your map. As I said it just feels like : wtf, where is the stream :D
Monstrata
Reverberation

00:05:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - I feel like this should be a 1/4 repeat trill, its the same as 00:01:145 (1) - . Keep the mapping consistent? It feels a bit overmapped as streams anyways since the 1/4's kind of cut out halfway and gradually fade back in.
00:18:055 (3,4) - These repeats aren't visible. Not rankable imo.
00:33:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - This rhythm just doesn't fit imo. I can't hear 3/2 rhythm emphasis asnywhere xP.
00:51:191 (1,2) - I would do a kickslider instead. Helps lead into the stream better.
01:06:191 (8) - Should be stacked i think?
01:23:509 (3,4) - Same as earlier about the repeats.
01:46:964 (1,2) - Blanket pls cuz 3+4 is blanketted
01:57:736 (1,2) - Don't do this pls xP start the stream on the white tick, especially if you're going to space them this far apart.
04:10:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Nice
04:27:327 (1,2,3) - Felt really undermapped imo. 04:29:918 (2,3) - etc... Like the second iteration is higher pitched and more stressed. I feel using simpler patterns is the wrong approach.
04:43:418 (3,4) - There's a distinct 5-plet here if you wanna map it instead. It's different from the two circles earlier.
05:01:145 - The drums double here so imo the rhythm choice here is too simple xP. I would consider mapping more circle jumps. You shouldn't simplfy rhythm here too to map the vocals, though you could use jumps instead to emphasize vocals while maintaining a denser rhythm.
05:18:600 - Actually, i think these are 1/3's? lol. Guitar anyways.
05:57:736 (5) - NC
06:02:100 (5,1) - Swap NC's
06:06:463 (4) - NC
06:55:691 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is a real mess xP.
08:01:076 (1,2) - Doesn't reflect the song well cuz the drum ro0ll comes on 08:01:485 - .

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Depending on what you fix, I can potentially push this forward. Call me back when you're ready and we'll see.
Topic Starter
PoNo

Monstrata wrote:

Reverberation

00:05:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - I feel like this should be a 1/4 repeat trill, its the same as 00:01:145 (1) - . Keep the mapping consistent? It feels a bit overmapped as streams anyways since the 1/4's kind of cut out halfway and gradually fade back in. Changed
00:18:055 (3,4) - These repeats aren't visible. Not rankable imo. Fixed
00:33:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - This rhythm just doesn't fit imo. I can't hear 3/2 rhythm emphasis asnywhere xP. Changed
00:51:191 (1,2) - I would do a kickslider instead. Helps lead into the stream better. Changed the part added more kicksliders
01:06:191 (8) - Should be stacked i think? Fixed
01:23:509 (3,4) - Same as earlier about the repeats. Fixed
01:46:964 (1,2) - Blanket pls cuz 3+4 is blanketted Fixed
01:57:736 (1,2) - Don't do this pls xP start the stream on the white tick, especially if you're going to space them this far apart. Ok ok
04:10:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Nice Thanks !
04:27:327 (1,2,3) - Felt really undermapped imo. 04:29:918 (2,3) - etc... Like the second iteration is higher pitched and more stressed. I feel using simpler patterns is the wrong approach. I really have no idea how to make this less undermapped... If you have any idea to propose, feel free
04:43:418 (3,4) - There's a distinct 5-plet here if you wanna map it instead. It's different from the two circles earlier. Changed
05:01:145 - The drums double here so imo the rhythm choice here is too simple xP. I would consider mapping more circle jumps. You shouldn't simplfy rhythm here too to map the vocals, though you could use jumps instead to emphasize vocals while maintaining a denser rhythm. Changed
05:18:600 - Actually, i think these are 1/3's? lol. Guitar anyways. Fixed for the whole part
05:57:736 (5) - NC Ye
06:02:100 (5,1) - Swap NC's Ye
06:06:463 (4) - NC Ye
06:55:691 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is a real mess xP. Fixed lol
08:01:076 (1,2) - Doesn't reflect the song well cuz the drum ro0ll comes on 08:01:485 - . Changed, I don't know if its fine x.x

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Depending on what you fix, I can potentially push this forward. Call me back when you're ready and we'll see.
Kilabarus
wowww this map is definitely better than ranked one, structure and your style are both amazing, every object is on it's place. Really hope this will be ranked soon!
Ali-
a quick little mod because i really want to see this map ranked

feel free to deny
[Reverberation]
00:03:873 (1) - maybe no NC here? seems kinda pointless
00:20:236 (3,3) - possibly NC these, for consistency (these types of repeat sliders were their own combos)
00:25:691 (6) - perhaps map this as a triple, leave the other repeat be
00:27:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmm, i think this grid needs some work. maybe tweaking the ratios a little?
00:36:055 - i really like this stream
00:39:327 (1,2,3,4) - this is a nice idea but its a little much, maybe inch it a bit closer to the slider
00:48:055 (1) - a bit of a sharp turn. if you really cant make it look any fatter, disregard
00:52:964 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is a pretty big snap...
01:37:827 (7) - overmapped?
01:47:781 (4) - this spacing is pretty inconsistent, its kinda contradictory with the hype you were building with the previous sliders
01:52:282 (5) - ctrl+g for flow?
02:13:009 (5,1) - looks like 1/4th spacing imo
03:04:964 (2,3) - should be a pair of jumps aswell, feels undermapped
03:44:373 - undermapped a red tick here, i feel as though it can be mapped
04:03:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - i like
04:21:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this feels like it escalates really quickly, should be more gradual, dunno
04:21:941 (1) - have this end on the red tick? its just uncool to have a circle that quickly at such a bpm
04:49:146 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - feels kinda boring, inconsistent with the other jumps
05:10:964 (1,2) - these are both different sliders, copy paste instead
05:13:691 (9) - really fast, looks weird since stream was low spacing
05:27:055 (9) - ^
06:00:873 (1) - pointless NC? i can see the thought behind it though
06:41:327 (6) - would look better imo if you ctrl+g and ctrl+h it, but keep in the same place
08:01:895 (8) - really difficult to read, but i guess that doesnt matter because its a slider
08:04:894 (1,2) - switch NC, remove it on the last note?

amazing map, dude. cant wait to see it be your second ranked
jeanbernard8865
05:13:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - isn't that 1/3
Topic Starter
PoNo

Okinami wrote:

a quick little mod because i really want to see this map ranked

feel free to deny
[Reverberation]
00:03:873 (1) - maybe no NC here? seems kinda pointless yep
00:20:236 (3,3) - possibly NC these, for consistency (these types of repeat sliders were their own combos) true
00:25:691 (6) - perhaps map this as a triple, leave the other repeat be It was a triple, but I just choose to remove this one cause finger control is really hard after that triple 00:25:282 (2,3,4) -
00:27:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmm, i think this grid needs some work. maybe tweaking the ratios a little? This is not a grid this is a star into a triangle :)
00:36:055 - i really like this stream Thanks (>v<)/ !!
00:39:327 (1,2,3,4) - this is a nice idea but its a little much, maybe inch it a bit closer to the slider Why not
00:48:055 (1) - a bit of a sharp turn. if you really cant make it look any fatter, disregard Mhmmm, thats look pretty ok for me, maybe if more ppl want to change that i'll do, but seems ok for me
00:52:964 (4,5,6,7,8) - this is a pretty big snap... Reduced a bit
01:37:827 (7) - overmapped? Slider end is overmapped, but thats not a big problem for playing, also I put that one for emphasis the vocals and imo it's fair
01:47:781 (4) - this spacing is pretty inconsistent, its kinda contradictory with the hype you were building with the previous sliders Totally true, but I like the visuals x.x cause I placed the same pattern here 01:46:964 (1,2) - just symetrics :p
01:52:282 (5) - ctrl+g for flow? Changed the pattern !
02:13:009 (5,1) - looks like 1/4th spacing imo Added more spacing
03:04:964 (2,3) - should be a pair of jumps aswell, feels undermapped I'm not totally agreed for that, cause the song just fading out the intensity and for me its better to make sliders here instead of jumps, like this part 07:04:691 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I putted jumps cause this is not before a break and the intensity isn't the same at all
03:44:373 - undermapped a red tick here, i feel as though it can be mapped Fixed
04:03:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - i like Thank you ♥
04:21:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this feels like it escalates really quickly, should be more gradual, dunno I like it, idk
04:21:941 (1) - have this end on the red tick? its just uncool to have a circle that quickly at such a bpm Why not
04:49:146 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - feels kinda boring, inconsistent with the other jumps Already nerfed and explain that choice, this is volontary a diff spike to emphasis the next part of the song, like a reward for the player who fc that jump
05:10:964 (1,2) - these are both different sliders, copy paste instead They're the sames :o
05:13:691 (9) - really fast, looks weird since stream was low spacing Reduced sv
05:27:055 (9) - ^ ok
06:00:873 (1) - pointless NC? i can see the thought behind it though I prefer change the color for that low sv slider
06:41:327 (6) - would look better imo if you ctrl+g and ctrl+h it, but keep in the same place Spacing will be too large :x
08:01:895 (8) - really difficult to read, but i guess that doesnt matter because its a slider True but its okay I think, can't really make it better :/
08:04:894 (1,2) - switch NC, remove it on the last note? oki !

amazing map, dude. cant wait to see it be your second ranked Thanks bro !

AyanokoRin wrote:

05:13:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - isn't that 1/3
Yes, this is 1/3 guitar, but like I said... it was intentional cause switching a lot 1/3 to 1/4th etc etc can be really hard to read and play and I prefer choose a easier way to map this cause the drums are 1/2 so I think this is possible ! :P




[color=#0000FF]And thanks for the other ones for the support ! :D/
Xantaria
:( ... was really disappointed to see you removed the best stream ... do you still have an old version up for download somewhere?
Topic Starter
PoNo
nop :s
pavpab
I'm too lazy to mod such a streamy map now but I'll grant you 1SP now mai friend ♥ :>
Monstrata
Bubbled!
pavpab

Monstrata wrote:

Bubbled!
LOL
Vivyanne
petition to change bg on the map cuz it's not related to touhou!

(x)
Linada

HighTec wrote:

petition to change bg on the map cuz it's not related to touhou!

(x)
change all bgs that use anime girls to songs not related then eh

this bg is cool :v
Vivyanne
anti-meme police :(
Linada
fuck i cant get memes kms
Topic Starter
PoNo

HighTec wrote:

petition to change bg on the map cuz it's not related to touhou!

(x)
Give me a good Background related to this song and i'll change, already tryied to change it, sorry
Arrival
Une ou deux remarques :

04:21:736 (7,8,1) - L'accel me parait assez étrange ici un peu trop spaced d'un coup surtout que la guitare s'emballe plus a partir de 04:21:600 (5) -

05:35:100 (2) - Je vois pas trop ce que cette note fait la, ca irait bien mieux niveau emphase si tu finissais sur le downbeat surtout en toute fin de kiai



Je chercherai un peu plus tout a l'heure limite si tu veux
Lunicia
rank plz so i can get a ming acc fc on this :)
Topic Starter
PoNo

Arrival wrote:

Une ou deux remarques :

04:21:736 (7,8,1) - L'accel me parait assez étrange ici un peu trop spaced d'un coup surtout que la guitare s'emballe plus a partir de 04:21:600 (5) -

05:35:100 (2) - Je vois pas trop ce que cette note fait la, ca irait bien mieux niveau emphase si tu finissais sur le downbeat surtout en toute fin de kiai

J'ai fix les deux merci pour le feedback !


Je chercherai un peu plus tout a l'heure limite si tu veux
Musty
rank plz so i can get a ming acc fc on this :)
mithew
much better than dokitos :P
Kurai
IRC mod
17:45 Kurai: Yo
17:46 Ponoyoshi: yo
17:46 Kurai: J'étais en train de regarder ta map
17:46 *Kurai is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1218337 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Yomi yori Kikoyu, Koukoku no Tou to Honoo no Shoujo. [Reverberation]]
17:46 Ponoyoshi: wé
17:46 Kurai: Et j'ai un problème avec ce pattern
17:46 Kurai: 03:44:236 (2,3) -
17:47 Ponoyoshi: oui ?
17:47 Kurai: Je sais pas pour toi, mais il me semble que ya rien dans la musique à 03:44:236 -
17:47 Kurai: mais que le son commence genre 1/6 après
17:47 Ponoyoshi: en vrai oui
17:47 Ponoyoshi: j'viens de réaliser
17:48 Kurai: ça m'a un peu fait bizarre au début
17:48 Kurai: Donc je sais pas si t'as envie de changer
17:48 Kurai: http://up.kuraip.net/0709r1P67S2176.png
17:48 Kurai: genre en virant juste le slider et en mettant un cercle sur le tick rouge
17:48 Kurai: je peux direct rebubble
17:49 Ponoyoshi: t'as raison
17:49 Ponoyoshi: en plus j'avais des fixes à faire dessus donc ça m'arrange
17:49 Kurai: cool
17:49 Kurai: je vais te faire quelques autres suggestions aussi si t'as le temps
17:49 Ponoyoshi: ouaip
17:49 Kurai: si je les retrouve car j'ai pas noté
17:52 Kurai: 01:22:964 (1) - Perso j'aime pas comment ce slider se retrouve juste en dessous du stream précedent, même pour de l4AR 9.7, je trouve que c'est pas top niveau lisibilité
17:52 Ponoyoshi: ok ok
17:52 Ponoyoshi: j'ai fix
17:52 Kurai: okay
17:55 Kurai: 03:05:509 (1,2) - je trouve que la façon dont se joue ce pattern correspond pas vraiment à la musique ici, je verrais plutôt un truc où les deux sliders vont dans la même direction (genre ctrl+G le premier slider)
17:56 Ponoyoshi: mhmm pourquoi pas
17:56 Ponoyoshi: je vais tester
17:57 Ponoyoshi: ok c'est changé
17:57 Kurai: noice
17:58 Kurai: 04:58:964 (1,2) - pareil ici, je verrais plus un truc où les sliders se chevauchent comme pour 04:50:236 (1,1) -
17:58 Ponoyoshi: mhmmm
17:59 Ponoyoshi: en vrai ouais
17:59 Ponoyoshi: c'est pas con !
17:59 Ponoyoshi: j'aime
18:01 Ponoyoshi: après au pire tu peux juste send ton mod sur le thread
18:01 Ponoyoshi: et j'upload le tout après le mod du T2 bn
18:01 Ponoyoshi: (quand tu auras fini)
18:01 Kurai: j'ai terminé en vrai là
18:01 Kurai: xD
18:01 Kurai: juste
18:01 Ponoyoshi: ok ok
18:02 Kurai: vu que la vocaliste vient d'un autre groupe
18:02 Kurai: tu pourrais ptet l'ajouter dans les tags
18:02 Kurai: c'est la vocaliste de BRIDEAR
18:02 Kurai: donc jsp, ajoute KIMI dans les tags? xD
18:03 Ponoyoshi: en maj ?
18:03 Kurai: ouais
18:03 Ponoyoshi: c'est noté !
18:03 Kurai: bref si tu veux tu peux upload et j'irai rebubble
18:03 Ponoyoshi: du coup j'upload et tu rebub ?

- Fixed 03:44:236 (2,3) - that was not following the music properly.
- Some pattern suggestions
- Added KIMI, the name of the vocalist who is from another band.
Topic Starter
PoNo
Uploaded last mods !
Kurai
Rebubbled! 8-) 8-)
Musty
bon c lon -____ -
SilverCatalyst
if this gets qualified i will literally shit my pants on camera
Stoof
hey is anyone gonna qualify this
Topic Starter
PoNo
T2 are actually too busy, and refusing for subjective stuff, also i'm waiting for new T2 I don't want to ask everyday for a BN
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