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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年4月7日 at 19:41:49

Artist: Manami Numakura
Title: Climber's High!
Source: 風夏
Tags: 秋月風夏 ふうか Akitsuki Fuuka full version Frey
BPM: 179
Filesize: 6510kb
Play Time: 03:58
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.62 stars, 280 notes)
  2. Frey's Insane (4.68 stars, 934 notes)
  3. Hard (3.35 stars, 640 notes)
  4. Normal (2.22 stars, 450 notes)
  5. Wind (5.5 stars, 1094 notes)


Download: Manami Numakura - Climber's High!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Fuuka #1 op full ver. and here is The fallen moon (Lynn's vocal) version if you like!
Fuuka #2 | Fuuka #3 | Fuuka #4 WIP
rock&roll 4Ever!
Changed Romanized Artist on 31st MAR.

Insane by Frey
other diffs by myself
The diff name Wind comes from the heroine's name 風夏 and expresses the ethereal feeling of the character and the song
and is not related to my username >.<
bg from HabiHolic thank you very much!

Changelog & thanks
edit: 25th FEB. thanks to Delis
edit: 21st MAR. thanks to Gaia, Deppyforce, DTM9 Nowa, DavidEd, SeaRasp and UndeadCapulet
edit: 31st MAR. thanks to Monstrata
edit: 2nd APR. thanks to Yuii-
edit: 4th APR. thanks to Garden
posted
:3
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dirty kudos farming
00:16 Delis: o hey
00:16 Delis: are you able to change the online tags?
00:17 Zero__wind: yes
00:17 Delis: hmm
00:17 Delis: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/401085
00:17 Delis: I wanted fgo in tags but forgot to add :/
00:18 Zero__wind: >.<
00:18 Delis: sooo may i ask you to add for me!
00:18 Delis: it's kinda important because japanese people used to call the game "fgo"
00:28 Zero__wind: ok done
00:29 Delis: nice!!
00:29 Delis: thank you >v<b
00:30 Zero__wind: np
00:30 Zero__wind: time to fc this
00:31 Delis: you'll get rekt by the last chorus made by me xD
00:33 Zero__wind: rekt
00:38 Zero__wind: oh I thought I broke
00:38 Delis: wow
00:39 Zero__wind: have you buffed me lol
00:39 Delis: no no you did it by yourself!
00:39 Zero__wind: the beginning of last kiai is hard
00:39 Zero__wind: those big ds streams
00:39 Delis: ya lol
00:40 Zero__wind: I didn't know it was a collab diff
00:40 Delis: i was like "ok let's just make a devil pattern to break their combos"
00:40 Zero__wind: too mean
00:40 Delis: A SECRET COLLAB =v=
00:41 Zero__wind: o.o
00:42 Zero__wind: oh
00:42 Zero__wind: try my new map plz
00:42 Delis: I've removed the bookmarks in diff so it's hard to distinguish the parts if you don't know mapping style of both of us lol
00:42 Delis: k
00:42 Zero__wind: it's cool
00:42 *Zero__wind is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1216208 Numakura Manami - Climber's High!]
00:42 Delis: NO SD*8 TY
00:42 Zero__wind: only 5
00:42 Delis: o the song is already cool
00:42 Zero__wind: so easy
00:42 Delis: I'll show you my mouse skill
00:43 Zero__wind: pro mouse jumps
00:47 Delis: wow
00:47 Delis: it's fun
00:47 Zero__wind: yes
00:47 Delis: my hand died because no breaks LUL
00:47 Zero__wind: self-satisfying work
00:47 Zero__wind: xD
00:48 Delis: that's what I always do xd
00:48 Zero__wind: it's hard to to play long nonstop maps with mouse ikr
00:49 Delis: I felt the very beginning of first kiai could've been a bit harder
00:49 Zero__wind: hmm
00:50 Delis: it's few point, like the distance between 01:00:148 (3) - and 01:00:483 (1) - could be larger
00:50 Delis: not rly sure
00:52 Zero__wind: oh this part
00:52 Zero__wind: yeah maybe I can do some easy spacing adjustment
00:52 Delis: 01:10:539 (2) - 03:35:343 (2) - nc spam could fit because cryo would do LOL
00:53 Zero__wind: super good reason I admit
00:55 Delis: one more thing, 02:46:237 (1,2,3) - this was kinda confused for first play due to the spacing, i mean I'd make the distance between 02:46:070 (5,1) - closer
00:56 Zero__wind: yeah I noticed
00:56 Delis: so it will be in the sight while reading 02:45:735 (4,5) -, much easier to read
00:56 Zero__wind: I will consider NC spam those too
00:56 Delis: ya that also works
00:57 Delis: that's everything what I got from the testplay ~w~
00:58 Zero__wind: can I give you kds haha
00:58 Delis: ya easy 2 kd
00:58 Zero__wind: oh is it
00:58 Zero__wind: oh really
00:58 Zero__wind: 7 days
00:58 Delis: and maybe change the artist to 沼倉愛美 since two of characters are written in chinese rn
00:59 Delis: yes


ty for 2 kudos, there are unnecessary things on the top because lazy to edit
posted
hihi
[easy]
00:12:047 (2) - stack this on 00:06:684 (2) - and move things around? avoid overlap would prob look better
00:16:573 (1,2) - try this rhythm
00:19:422 (1,2,3) - 00:22:103 (1,2) - 00:24:785 (1,2) - ^
00:48:919 (1) - 00:51:600 (1) - suggest pulling the anchor back more since really short snaps on sliders confuse beginners
01:15:735 (1,2,3) - these arent really visually spaced like a 3/2 so kinda confusing too imo
01:42:550 (1,2,3) - try thiss
02:04:003 (1) - cool shape but again i think pull the anchor back is better
02:20:762 (2,3) - put (3) to where (2) is and repeat?
02:36:181 (1) - the vocal isnt exactly on the upbeat here so extending this to the next downbeat for a 1/1 rhythm sounds a lot better imo
03:40:539 (1,2,3) - same as first chorus

[normal]
00:09:366 (3) - probably nazi but i think putting this higher flows better
00:32:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (5,6) are following different things so i find it kinda weird they're all mapped the same way
00:47:075 (3) - since this pattern was all following vocals 1/2 repeat here woud be nice?
01:10:707 (2,3) - switch order for vocal
01:49:924 (6) - probably nazi but more left looks better? wew
02:07:690 (2) - normal sampleset with soft whistle better i think
02:25:790 (2,3) - vocal
02:36:852 - i think u shud add a circle here cuz the offbeat vocal sounds really off to me haha
02:59:645 (5,1) - weird flow// 02:59:142 (4) - move up a little more and replace the reverse with a circle? http://puu.sh/uOP1K/c76fb21c16.jpg

[hard]
00:15:399 (1) - might as well blanket (4) too? haha
00:21:433 (3,4) - 1/4 and 1/2 stacked together is kinda hard to read, space this out? same with others
00:51:600 (1) - move further a little so (6) has consistent spacing?
00:58:640 (1,2) - sv too low imo lol
01:12:550 (4) - stack is off
01:40:539 (3) - this fits more i think since there's a drum triple into the next beat
01:43:221 (3) - flows better on the left more ? http://puu.sh/uOPsh/c1d77a5ba2.jpg
01:47:913 (1,2,3,4) - kinda confusing imo hmm, maybe change things so spacing is more consistent?
01:54:450 (3) - normal sampleset would be nice
03:33:165 (1) - this is 1/4 longer than the other 2 so might catch some people off guard?
03:56:293 (3) - kinda far o .o

[frey]
01:04:003 (2,3) - ctrl+g both?
01:10:371 (1) - try 2 low spacing circles? would be a cool effect i think
01:12:885 (1) - ctrl+g this?
01:23:612 (1) - try moving this to the right more for slightly better spacing emphasis :p
01:46:237 (5,1,2) - 01:48:919 (4,1,2) - rhythm sounds weird since u were following vocals before
02:54:114 (5) - finish?

great stufffff

[diff name relates to a username :thinking: kappa]
00:10:539 (3,4) - switch rhythm?
00:50:427 (6,1) - ^
01:10:288 (4,1,1) - mm pretty hard to get that antijump right after a 1/4
01:47:578 (3,4,5) - kinda sudden, replace (3,4) with a kick slider maybe?
02:25:371 (4,1,1,1) - same as last chorus
02:56:880 (6) - having the anchor of the stream on a blue tick is kinda weird to play, make 7 here pls
02:58:053 (2,3) - the rhythm here is pretty fked so having an easier to read pattern here to ease into the weird 1/4 rhythms would be nice
03:35:343 (1) - they're not the same spacing /me runs
03:44:226 (5) - cross screen jump but all of (3,4,5,6) have the same emphasis

wew glhf
posted
q m4m

[general]
widescreen support
add 'full version' to tags maybe since its anime op song that tag might be useful (atleast its useful to me)
02:57:634 - personally i think this should also be a kiai but up to u! or maybe just 1/4 kiai time just for fountain stuff that a lot of ppl does nowadays

[easy]
00:05:008 (2,1) - tbh change rhythm somehow to make 00:05:846 - clickable is better cuz its stronger (start of verse)and it should be clickable to emphasize that its stronger than 00:07:187
01:21:098 (1) - even though its actually fine but i think its a bit too fast for a ez diff like this / ending spinner on snare 01:23:612 - would be fitting and a bit easier to get bonus spinner points for beginners
01:47:243 (3) - why not change to 3/2 slider to map snare on previous white tick? since u map most of snares in previous measure and also fit better with vocals this way
01:57:299 (3) - nazi but its a bit too curved for blanket http://puu.sh/uONOn/6b89233cab.jpg
02:14:394 - idk about this cuz its the only 1/2 gap in the whole map i'd say change 02:14:059 (3) - to just circle on head would be safer
02:42:550 (2,3) - nazi blonket again xd
02:59:478 - theres actually snare and start of vocals here why not start the 02:59:645 (3) - slider here itll also be a 1/1 rythm gap which is easier to hit
same for other ones after in this verse
03:21:098 (3) - try reverse slider? its a bit fitting imo and that why something is actually being mapped 'on' the snare 03:21:600 - rather than just completely ignored like this

[normal]
00:34:841 (5,6) - drum on this are different than sounds on 00:32:830 (1,2,3,4) - so use different flow path here would emphasize that better, maybe try smh like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597339
00:43:388 - this tick has stronger vocals+drum so it should take priority to map more than this 1/2 tick 00:43:053 - i also noticed the sound on it a lot more
00:53:109 - lol why is this ignored just add a circle
01:36:181 (5,1) - its almost overlapping as you can see http://puu.sh/uOOLs/d1808b947e.jpg maybe try move (1) further to the right? looks better imo
02:09:198 - add circle pls dont ignore the thing here its so strong :thonkang:
02:17:243 (1,2) - nazi but would you fix the blanket here
02:36:852 - you shouldnt just ignore this dam snare just because youre focus on mapping vocals really , same for other ones after
03:02:327 (5,1) - i know you probably cant do anything about this but this kind of ''blanket'' triggers me lol i'd say try change it to red anchor slider thing to avoid the curve blanket fact completely http://puu.sh/uOPj3/b3d0239606.jpg would blend in better for aesthetics

[hard]
00:15:064 (4,1) - honestly this looks like 1/4 stack the sliderhead over previous slider head might be easier to read
00:35:343 (4) - this red tick is weaker than 00:35:008 - this one so space this one and keep stack on 2nd one to would better rhythm wise like http://puu.sh/uOPGi/23f97ed3d4.jpg
00:37:690 (1,2,3) - honestly since this is a hard diff u can make these a bit bigger spaced , they play same as 00:38:193 (1,2,3) - and lacks emphasis atm
01:14:059 (4,1) - blankets kinda off
01:20:679 - this 1/4 is pretty noticeable tho i suggest do things like http://puu.sh/uOPTu/8d9ff26854.jpg would fit in with this section
02:00:986 (6,1) - blanket
02:14:226 (3,1) - tbh this jump isnt much different from 02:15:064 (2) - , i dont think its enough to feel that the start of kiai is stronger atm pls space it bigger
02:19:086 (2,3) - tbh i think this doesnt fit xd ctrl+g rhythm is a bit better and the vocal on white also becomes clickable
03:32:746 (1,1) - these ncs are unnecessary tbh

[frey]
00:16:908 - in the verse there are so many ignored 1/4s while its fine i dont think it should be ignored cuz when u map 2-3 of them and then u ignore the rest it just feels unbalanced, but do whatever you want i guess
00:48:165 - now this drum is one of the stronger ones so u definitely shouldnt ignore this if u mapped stuff like 00:43:472 (6) -
01:04:338 (3) - honestly i think this is overly spaced for such a weak sound on it
01:23:025 (4) -is hitsound missing?
01:28:975 (1,4) - im nazi but these arent perfect parallel atm
01:58:304 (4) - u sure u dont wanna make this clickable? 01:58:304 (4) - and u kinda overdo the spacing on sliders start which kinda makes no sense
02:12:047 (1) - its a bit weird that this is as fast as 02:11:042 (3,4) - but its obviously noticeably weaker
02:23:947 (2) - stack end nazi
02:46:237 (1,2,3) - might wanna nc these 3 so its easier to tell that its 3/4 gap and not just some highly spaced 1/2 jumps like 02:46:908 (1,2) - ?
03:07:355 (3) - change to 1/4 reverse slider? u can still map vocals but also mapping 1/4 drums at the same time better
03:39:701 (2,3) - lol wtf

[wind __zero]
00:12:718 - this hitsound on end sounds a bit wrong
00:40:539 (7) - idk but this flows a bit bad for me try moving it up to like x259 y273 flows a bit nicer with the previous pattern shape thing
00:54:533 (3) - remove clap pls
01:10:288 (4,1,1,1) - this looks a bit weird with stack actually http://puu.sh/uORQv/e2531cf729.jpg instead of stack to differ 1/4 from 1/2 try space it further instead? like http://puu.sh/uORUW/8855eee55b.jpg
01:39:701 (1,3) - the middle curves in a bit too much for blanket nazi again xd
02:25:371 (4,1,1) - same as before on 1st kiai
02:30:818 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - if u care, this is a bit lame to play tbh / try rotate flip things a bit like last kiai works better and more variation is a good thing lol
03:42:550 (1,2) - seriously i think this is overmapped xd but ok sure its not unrankable
03:55:120 (7) - this drum is different from others maybe change motion from pattern before? to emphasize

cool
posted
M4M i guess :>


Stuff
General

Widescreen support is not really needed in the set since it does not have a storyboard

Easy

00:44:226 (2,3) - You could curve the 2 little bit less to improve the blanket

00:55:623 (3,4) - Heavily personal opinion but this pattern would look better if the 4 would be 3 vertically flipped. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597318 like so

01:04:841 (1,2,3,4) - Not too big of a deal but the curved sliders (1 and 3) could be little bit less curved since the overall pattern is not as tight as they are

01:21:098 (1) - I know that the mapset was submitted before the ranking criteria but imo the spinner should still follow the updated criteria thus it shouldn't be less than 4 beats in difficulties that are labelled as easy

Normal

00:48:249 (6,7,1) - the 7 and 1 could be moved little bit downwards since slidertail6|7|1 could have it's circularity improved

01:32:494 (3,4) - This kind of patterning will be quite hard for the newer players (who literally follow the slider as it is) as the final reverse does not represent where the next object is

02:17:243 (1,2) - Maybe the structure here would look nicer if they were blanketed

02:27:969 (1) - Why doesn't the head of this slider have finish even though the head of 02:28:640 (2) - has? Imo they are mapped on a fairly similar beat in the song thus they should be represented similarly through mapping, similar problem with other difficulties

Hard

00:15:064 (4,1) - I'm totally fine with the stack but the overlap with the 4 doesn't really look that good :s maybe you could justify why it's necessary to have like so since it's really weird looking to me

01:47:913 (1,2,3,4) - I know that it's a pattern and it's not that hard but i'm still a bit concerned about it begin too difficult to read for a player that is just starting to play hard level difficulties

02:09:366 (1,2) - You haven't really used this kind of movement and you deciding to use that kind of movement in the middle of the map even after you have used this 01:15:735 (1,2,3,4) - kind of patterning with similar 1/2 reverse sliders may, unlikely but may make the pattern harder than someone who is just starting to play this level of difficulty is capable of doing

03:08:360 (1,2) - Like mentioned in easy this was submitted before the RC changes (and this is slidertail|sliderhead change so it's not even directly mentioned in the new RC) but it would improve the readibility that if these two would be artificially stacked. Though this made me consider this 03:08:360 (1,2,3,1) - part, you are mixing 1/2 stacks and 1/1 stacks all around here so it makes reading the map for the newer players a real pain in the you know where so you could consider changing stuff up here

03:32:327 (1,1,1,1,2,3) - I may not be the right person to say this but imo this is way too hard for a hard

Frey

00:00:651 (1,2,3) - 00:01:154 (1,2,3,4) - (and 00:03:332 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - ) Instead of having two different patterns on exactly similar beats right next to each other you really should decide one way of mapping them (maybe mapping the three first notes as little bit smaller jumps would improve the pattern?) or justify why mapping the same beats two different ways right next to each other is fine and does represent the song like any map should

01:10:204 (8,1) - Idk about this but imo it would be really cool that the 8 was almost stacked with the head of 1 so it would represent the stop -ish sound in the song

01:31:656 - It would be much better if this would be an active note by one way or another since it theoretically starts the new section

02:14:059 (1,2,3) - This doesn't really make sense to me, could you justify this pattern?

02:46:237 (1,2,3) - Maybe you could NC all these notes to surely alert the people of the 3/4 notes like zero wind did on the top difficulty?

03:21:852 - You could map a spinner here so every difficulty would have a spinner here

Wind

00:17:075 (1) - I don't really think this needs to be NCd since the SV increasement fits the movement and is not that significant

01:10:288 (4,1,1,1) - Colourception lmao

02:53:276 (3) - NC to be consitant with the slider|hitcircle patterning here 02:52:271 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -

02:58:053 (2,3) - Kinda evil, i guess it works but tbh 02:58:472 (4,5) - having a 1/2 spaced another polarity change right next to it is not really a good idea


Too good, have a kudos star
posted
M4M heres my map

Wind
00:05:343 (1,3) - Angle these a bit more up for stream flow
00:14:729 (4) - Move to x460 y136 and 00:15:232 (7) - to x212 y364 to improve the aestetics of this pattern (00:14:561 (3,4,5,6,7) - )
00:19:422 (1,2) - How about something like this (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597560)
00:36:517 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could polish this a bit (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597581)
01:04:673 (5) - A bit too much spacing for no particular sound. Move to x252 y252
01:34:841 (2,3,4,5,1) - Polish this star pattern
01:39:701 (1,2) - Fix blanket
02:51:265 (6) - Angle this a bit more up for better flow (http://puu.sh/uORlV/5a4704b38c.jpg)
02:55:288 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make this into a star pattern?
03:33:667 (1,2,3) - Stack on 03:32:746 (1) - to make spacing consistent with (03:32:578 (4,1) and 03:33:165 (1) - )

Frey's Insane
00:09:366 (4,1) - Blanket
00:19:422 (1) - Move to x248 y180 to fix diamond pattern
00:21:349 - Missing beat
00:24:701 - ^
00:26:712 - ^
00:29:394 - ^
You missed these triples alot in this part. And you seemed to be following the drums quite frequently aswell so idk why you'd leave them out.
01:02:997 (4,5,1) - Shouldn't 1 have more emphasize than 5?
01:26:126 (6,1) - Space 1 out more for proper emphasize
01:27:466 (6,1) - ^
01:38:025 (3,4) - Move these down, no reason to increase spacing on nothing (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597921)
01:40:371 (2) - Convert to 2 notes for proper rhythm
02:04:003 (1) - Stack on 5
03:21:936 - Add spinner to emphasize guitar note?

Didnt really like the way you spaced out things in this diff. 03:47:913 (5,6,1) - as an example. idk why 6 is more spaced out when 1 is the heavier beat. Other than that the diff flows well.

Hard
00:42:215 (1) - move to x384 y376 to fix diamond pattern
01:58:137 (4,5,1) - make consistent ds?

solid diff
posted
Hi M4M

Frey's Insane
  1. 00:01:154 (1,2,3) - I think you should keep low spacing like before and make 00:01:656 (4) - stand out, it's the only different sound
  2. 00:02:327 (4) - I think the slider end should be clickable cuz the sound is much stronger and should stand out more
  3. 00:03:332 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Here again I don't understand the spacing they are all bland sounds so should keep spacing consistent and make 00:04:505 (5) - stand out and the NC is weird too at 00:03:835 (1) - no reason
  4. 00:15:483 (1) - Spinner should start where the sound starts no ? at 00:15:483 (3) -
  5. 00:23:947 (2,3) - I don't understand why you would map the drums here and not before where the beats are the same I think you should map them there also but judging from the way you mapped it next I think this tripple should be removed
  6. 00:33:835 (6) - Piano could be mapped here it's pretty noticeable like 00:32:830 (1) - so why not xD Try something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7598064 where the piano is covered and 00:34:003 (1) - is also more emphasized
  7. 00:39:198 (4,1) - Flows kinda weird because it's so linear and the sliders are really close to each other and you would expect the downbeat to be more spaced usually. A solution would be to ctrl g both 00:39:198 (4,1) - but there are better ways so I'll let you chose
  8. 01:08:360 (1) - Remove NC and add it here 01:08:863 (3) - and remove it here 01:09:366 (1) - to keep things consistent. However you could add one here 01:09:869 (1) - remove here 01:10:371 (4) - and add here 01:10:707 (1) - as it is the more important slider which covers the finish you did that here 03:35:176 (5,1) - (this applies to similar sections in following kiais)
  9. I think adding a NC here 01:16:237 (3) - and 01:17:243 (3) - would fit better with your overall concept for this section (applies to other similar parts as well)
  10. 01:26:126 (6,1) - Distance should definitely be increased to emphasize the finish on the slider
  11. 01:31:321 (2) - Feels weird to have the note which marks the beginning of a new section be mapped as a reverse arrow maybe consider making it clickable
  12. 01:53:276 (1) - NC here to emphasize finish and mark the downbeat
  13. 02:00:148 (2,3) - overspaced IMO compared to the rest of the section
  14. 02:16:237 (1,2) - This again feels overspaced when compared to 02:17:075 (5,1) - which should be much larger
  15. 03:43:221 (1) - forgot NC


Diff could use work in emphasis and aesthetics but I can't judge your style

Wind
  1. Silencing the slider ends of all the sliders like 00:17:578 (1) - would sound much better while playing and to reflect the song
  2. 01:10:288 (4,1,1) - I always messed this part up when playing but I know it's intentional just hard to read
  3. 01:44:561 (1,2,3,4) - awkward flow IMO
  4. 01:47:578 (3,4,5,1) - can't understand this rhythm I feel like 01:47:746 (4) - should also be mapped it doesn't feel right when playing
  5. 02:53:276 (1) - Add NC for consistency with 02:52:774 (1) -


Alright that's all I felt limited in time :/
Good Luck !
posted
At your request:

Wind


Not too sure why this is Tick Rate 2, I think 1 fits your 1/1 holds a lot better, there's never really a beat for the sliderticks to follow.
  1. 00:12:550 (1,2) - I think making this a 1/2 repeat would fit the guitar really well here. Same for similar guitar parts like 01:27:634 (1,2) - , etc.
  2. 00:17:075 (1) - I don't rly think this NC is necessary, even with the sv change it's really obvious this is a 1/2 slider. This kinda just makes your nc job inconsistent imo..
  3. 01:09:533 (3) - :x The note here isn't really mapped to a beat, so it detracts from the 3/4 drumbeat here. I think you can find another solution than adding this note, the rest of the map has really nice 3/4 rhythming so the note here is kinda lame (I tried http://puu.sh/uPqzI/bdb43a23c7.jpg out, dunno if you'll like it tho. Also just tried making 01:09:198 (2) - a repeat and it sorta worked?) Applies to other kiais as well.
  4. 01:13:556 (3) - imo this should be nc'd since this has the same amount of power as 01:12:885 (1) - and 01:14:226 (1) - . Same for the later kiais.
  5. 01:23:025 - this is the only drumbeat in the whole map you skip, seems a bit weird imo
  6. 01:43:556 (4,5) - This is a lot smoother of a motion than 01:46:237 (4,5) - , I think you should turn the slider in some way (maybe like this idk) so the snap to the slider is stronger.
  7. 02:53:276 (3) - NC :P

Great as always

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Frey's Insane


00:59:478 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Nice fish

gl with your diff~

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Hard

  1. 00:30:148 (1,2) - Don't think the 00:30:399 - beat is important enough here, I think making 00:30:148 (1) - 1/2 (or even circles) to fit the guitar is nicer
  2. 02:13:723 (1,2,3) - I think the clickable rhythms here are unfitting here. All the emphasis is on the white ticks here so having Hard-level players click on the red ticks is weird feeling to me.


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Easy


I've been told that 00:48:919 (1) - is a questionable slider design because the sliderborder is obscured at the tail. I think it should be okay for ranking because it's still really obvious how to play it, but if people give you trouble try a design like this instead.

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posted
Gaia
hihi
[easy]
00:12:047 (2) - stack this on 00:06:684 (2) - and move things around? avoid overlap would prob look better I think they don't really overlap when playing so it's not a big deal
00:16:573 (1,2) - try this rhythm I know you're trying to avoid the 3/2 gap but I think it's not really good to cross many sudden stops in the music with the long slider 2 in your rhythm. and since I made the whole part quite consistent and they're all just slow sliders, it should be that hard even for beginners
00:19:422 (1,2,3) - 00:22:103 (1,2) - 00:24:785 (1,2) - ^
00:48:919 (1) - 00:51:600 (1) - suggest pulling the anchor back more since really short snaps on sliders confuse beginners yes I also hesitate when using this, will see more opinions and will probably change them
01:15:735 (1,2,3) - these arent really visually spaced like a 3/2 so kinda confusing too imo I kind like how this pattern works ;w;
01:42:550 (1,2,3) - try thiss tried but doesn't seem to fit the music better than my current rhythm. I don't really want to change it if only for difficulty's sake
02:04:003 (1) - cool shape but again i think pull the anchor back is better yep I see
02:20:762 (2,3) - put (3) to where (2) is and repeat? it's arranged consistly with 01:04:841 (1,2,3,4) - and I think it express the vocal's property better
02:36:181 (1) - the vocal isnt exactly on the upbeat here so extending this to the next downbeat for a 1/1 rhythm sounds a lot better imo yes I noticed that when mapping, but I think it should be good to keep it as it is in order to keep the consistency in the entire following part
03:40:539 (1,2,3) - same as first chorus

[normal]
00:09:366 (3) - probably nazi but i think putting this higher flows better ok
00:32:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (5,6) are following different things so i find it kinda weird they're all mapped the same way I made them this way as well aiming for making them easier to read, as the rhythm is kinda complex here. but I will change the placement if someone else also feels uncomfortable about this
00:47:075 (3) - since this pattern was all following vocals 1/2 repeat here woud be nice? it's also following percussion though 0.0 well I'm just fraid that having 1/2 reverse in these coherent rhythms would make it too hard so I'll keep it for now
01:10:707 (2,3) - switch order for vocal but I think that playss really weird considering the drums, also considering 01:09:701 (7,1) - not going on vocal
01:49:924 (6) - probably nazi but more left looks better? wew fine
02:07:690 (2) - normal sampleset with soft whistle better i think cool!
02:25:790 (2,3) - vocal
02:36:852 - i think u shud add a circle here cuz the offbeat vocal sounds really off to me haha same as Easy, prefer to keep consistency in order to make it easier to understand
02:59:645 (5,1) - weird flow// 02:59:142 (4) - move up a little more and replace the reverse with a circle? http://puu.sh/uOP1K/c76fb21c16.jpg not really a big problem imo, will see more opinions and reconsider

[hard]
00:15:399 (1) - might as well blanket (4) too? haha tried to change the shape a bit, hope it looks better now
00:21:433 (3,4) - 1/4 and 1/2 stacked together is kinda hard to read, space this out? same with others not really a problem imo, will see more opinions
00:51:600 (1) - move further a little so (6) has consistent spacing? ok
00:58:640 (1,2) - sv too low imo lol hmm = =
01:12:550 (4) - stack is off fixed
01:40:539 (3) - this fits more i think since there's a drum triple into the next beat yeah maybe, but since I really want the jump at 01:41:042 (1) - so I won't change this one = = and tbh I really hate white tick triple after 1/1 sliders
01:43:221 (3) - flows better on the left more ? doesn't really hurt the flow imo, would like to keep the 1.6 spacing at this point
01:47:913 (1,2,3,4) - kinda confusing imo hmm, maybe change things so spacing is more consistent? will change to something easier to read when I come up with a good idea
01:54:450 (3) - normal sampleset would be nice ok tried
03:33:165 (1) - this is 1/4 longer than the other 2 so might catch some people off guard? I have to agree but seriously, this is already like the easiest way to arrange the rhythm imo ;w;
03:56:293 (3) - kinda far o .o will see if others think so as well

[diff name relates to a username :thinking: kappa]
00:10:539 (3,4) - switch rhythm? I think the guitar starts from 00:10:539 (3) - so will keep it
00:50:427 (6,1) - ^
01:10:288 (4,1,1) - mm pretty hard to get that antijump right after a 1/4 but it's the like BEST PART in the map! lol
01:47:578 (3,4,5) - kinda sudden, replace (3,4) with a kick slider maybe? feels odd since can't have a pair of those
02:25:371 (4,1,1,1) - same as last chorus
02:56:880 (6) - having the anchor of the stream on a blue tick is kinda weird to play, make 7 here pls hmm, may be personal taste
02:58:053 (2,3) - the rhythm here is pretty fked so having an easier to read pattern here to ease into the weird 1/4 rhythms would be nice will consider to ged rid of the overlap if others think so too
03:35:343 (1) - they're not the same spacing /me runs stupid rotating algorithm
03:44:226 (5) - cross screen jump but all of (3,4,5,6) have the same emphasis tried to nerf the spacing a bit

wew glhf
Deppyforce
q m4m

[general]
widescreen support ok
add 'full version' to tags maybe since its anime op song that tag might be useful (atleast its useful to me) ok
02:57:634 - personally i think this should also be a kiai but up to u! or maybe just 1/4 kiai time just for fountain stuff that a lot of ppl does nowadays not really a fan of that

[easy]
00:05:008 (2,1) - tbh change rhythm somehow to make 00:05:846 - clickable is better cuz its stronger (start of verse)and it should be clickable to emphasize that its stronger than 00:07:187 yes ikr but sometime we have to compromise in the lowest diffs in order to make them easier and more consistent
01:21:098 (1) - even though its actually fine but i think its a bit too fast for a ez diff like this / ending spinner on snare 01:23:612 - would be fitting and a bit easier to get bonus spinner points for beginners yes I'm also worried about this spinner length, I'll consider removing it if others also point out this issue
01:47:243 (3) - why not change to 3/2 slider to map snare on previous white tick? since u map most of snares in previous measure and also fit better with vocals this way I prefer to keep the current to make it consistent with other phrases
01:57:299 (3) - nazi but its a bit too curved for blanket http://puu.sh/uONOn/6b89233cab.jpg changed a bit
02:14:394 - idk about this cuz its the only 1/2 gap in the whole map i'd say change 02:14:059 (3) - to just circle on head would be safer there're also 00:37:690 (3,1) - and I think sliders should be easier than circle
02:42:550 (2,3) - nazi blonket again xd changed
02:59:478 - theres actually snare and start of vocals here why not start the 02:59:645 (3) - slider here itll also be a 1/1 rythm gap which is easier to hit
same for other ones after in this verse hmm I think the vocal on 02:59:645 - is more important so I mapped the whole part this way
03:21:098 (3) - try reverse slider? its a bit fitting imo and that why something is actually being mapped 'on' the snare 03:21:600 - rather than just completely ignored like this seems too much for an Easy imo

[normal]
00:34:841 (5,6) - drum on this are different than sounds on 00:32:830 (1,2,3,4) - so use different flow path here would emphasize that better, maybe try smh like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597339 ok, since other modders also pointed this out
00:43:388 - this tick has stronger vocals+drum so it should take priority to map more than this 1/2 tick 00:43:053 - i also noticed the sound on it a lot more will see if anyone else thinks the same
00:53:109 - lol why is this ignored just add a circle prefer to keep consistency with the former phrase
01:36:181 (5,1) - its almost overlapping as you can see http://puu.sh/uOOLs/d1808b947e.jpg maybe try move (1) further to the right? looks better imo ok
02:09:198 - add circle pls dont ignore the thing here its so strong :thonkang: used slider
02:17:243 (1,2) - nazi but would you fix the blanket here changed
02:36:852 - you shouldnt just ignore this dam snare just because youre focus on mapping vocals really , same for other ones after I prefer to keep the rhythm simple and stable here since slow part
03:02:327 (5,1) - i know you probably cant do anything about this but this kind of ''blanket'' triggers me lol i'd say try change it to red anchor slider thing to avoid the curve blanket fact completely http://puu.sh/uOPj3/b3d0239606.jpg would blend in better for aesthetics tried to make 03:02:997 (1) - not that curved

[hard]
00:15:064 (4,1) - honestly this looks like 1/4 stack the sliderhead over previous slider head might be easier to read will see more opinions
00:35:343 (4) - this red tick is weaker than 00:35:008 - this one so space this one and keep stack on 2nd one to would better rhythm wise like http://puu.sh/uOPGi/23f97ed3d4.jpg I think that'd be a bit too hard for this part
00:37:690 (1,2,3) - honestly since this is a hard diff u can make these a bit bigger spaced , they play same as 00:38:193 (1,2,3) - and lacks emphasis atm yeah I think I'll try to rearrange the entire spacing later, to have a few more small jumps like at this point
01:14:059 (4,1) - blankets kinda off changed
01:20:679 - this 1/4 is pretty noticeable tho i suggest do things like http://puu.sh/uOPTu/8d9ff26854.jpg would fit in with this section I'm afraid that would be too hard for this diff
02:00:986 (6,1) - blanket changed
02:14:226 (3,1) - tbh this jump isnt much different from 02:15:064 (2) - , i dont think its enough to feel that the start of kiai is stronger atm pls space it bigger tried
02:19:086 (2,3) - tbh i think this doesnt fit xd ctrl+g rhythm is a bit better and the vocal on white also becomes clickable I like how this follows the guitar
03:32:746 (1,1) - these ncs are unnecessary tbh since it's really uncommon rhythm, will keep for now

[wind __zero]
00:12:718 - this hitsound on end sounds a bit wrong hmm seems fine to me
00:40:539 (7) - idk but this flows a bit bad for me try moving it up to like x259 y273 flows a bit nicer with the previous pattern shape thing only moved a bit
00:54:533 (3) - remove clap pls I like its effect
01:10:288 (4,1,1,1) - this looks a bit weird with stack actually http://puu.sh/uORQv/e2531cf729.jpg instead of stack to differ 1/4 from 1/2 try space it further instead? like http://puu.sh/uORUW/8855eee55b.jpg oh fml let me try to fix this
01:39:701 (1,3) - the middle curves in a bit too much for blanket nazi again xd hmm seems fine for me, I need such curver for the guitar imo
02:25:371 (4,1,1) - same as before on 1st kiai yes
02:30:818 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - if u care, this is a bit lame to play tbh / try rotate flip things a bit like last kiai works better and more variation is a good thing lol hmm, fine as it is imo
03:42:550 (1,2) - seriously i think this is overmapped xd but ok sure its not unrankable I tried to make the jump smaller 0.0 a bit
03:55:120 (7) - this drum is different from others maybe change motion from pattern before? to emphasize yes I know that but I think I couldn't really get out of this pattern so I'll just keep it simple

cool
DTM9 Nowa
M4M i guess :>


General

Widescreen support is not really needed in the set since it does not have a storyboard yes

Easy

00:44:226 (2,3) - You could curve the 2 little bit less to improve the blanket ok changed a bit

00:55:623 (3,4) - Heavily personal opinion but this pattern would look better if the 4 would be 3 vertically flipped. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597318 like so changed a little differently

01:04:841 (1,2,3,4) - Not too big of a deal but the curved sliders (1 and 3) could be little bit less curved since the overall pattern is not as tight as they are ok

01:21:098 (1) - I know that the mapset was submitted before the ranking criteria but imo the spinner should still follow the updated criteria thus it shouldn't be less than 4 beats in difficulties that are labelled as easy ok removed for safety

Normal

00:48:249 (6,7,1) - the 7 and 1 could be moved little bit downwards since slidertail6|7|1 could have it's circularity improved tried

01:32:494 (3,4) - This kind of patterning will be quite hard for the newer players (who literally follow the slider as it is) as the final reverse does not represent where the next object is not really a problem imo

02:17:243 (1,2) - Maybe the structure here would look nicer if they were blanketed yes

02:27:969 (1) - Why doesn't the head of this slider have finish even though the head of 02:28:640 (2) - has? Imo they are mapped on a fairly similar beat in the song thus they should be represented similarly through mapping, similar problem with other difficulties there already was

Hard

00:15:064 (4,1) - I'm totally fine with the stack but the overlap with the 4 doesn't really look that good :s maybe you could justify why it's necessary to have like so since it's really weird looking to me tried to improve the shape of 1

01:47:913 (1,2,3,4) - I know that it's a pattern and it's not that hard but i'm still a bit concerned about it begin too difficult to read for a player that is just starting to play hard level difficulties will try to make something different since other modders also point this out

02:09:366 (1,2) - You haven't really used this kind of movement and you deciding to use that kind of movement in the middle of the map even after you have used this 01:15:735 (1,2,3,4) - kind of patterning with similar 1/2 reverse sliders may, unlikely but may make the pattern harder than someone who is just starting to play this level of difficulty is capable of doing hmm I think this should be acceptable for this level

03:08:360 (1,2) - Like mentioned in easy this was submitted before the RC changes (and this is slidertail|sliderhead change so it's not even directly mentioned in the new RC) but it would improve the readibility that if these two would be artificially stacked. Though this made me consider this 03:08:360 (1,2,3,1) - part, you are mixing 1/2 stacks and 1/1 stacks all around here so it makes reading the map for the newer players a real pain in the you know where so you could consider changing stuff up here will see more opinions

03:32:327 (1,1,1,1,2,3) - I may not be the right person to say this but imo this is way too hard for a hard no I think I need to introduce some 1/4 like diff otherwise the gap to Insane would be big

Wind

00:17:075 (1) - I don't really think this needs to be NCd since the SV increasement fits the movement and is not that significant ok since it's the only one in this part

01:10:288 (4,1,1,1) - Colourception lmao :3

02:53:276 (3) - NC to be consitant with the slider|hitcircle patterning here 02:52:271 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - nice catch

02:58:053 (2,3) - Kinda evil, i guess it works but tbh 02:58:472 (4,5) - having a 1/2 spaced another polarity change right next to it is not really a good idea made the spacing 02:58:137 (3,4) - smaller

Too good, have a kudos star thanks for star~
DavidEd
M4M heres my map

Wind
00:05:343 (1,3) - Angle these a bit more up for stream flow olk
00:14:729 (4) - Move to x460 y136 and 00:15:232 (7) - to x212 y364 to improve the aestetics of this pattern (00:14:561 (3,4,5,6,7) - ) oh plz how did I do this
00:19:422 (1,2) - How about something like this (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597560) prefer to stay at the lower part fo screen
00:36:517 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could polish this a bit (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7597581) I like the current symmetry
01:04:673 (5) - A bit too much spacing for no particular sound. Move to x252 y252 doesn't feel so nice
01:34:841 (2,3,4,5,1) - Polish this star pattern oh well I didn't even mean to make a star but ok it's interesting
01:39:701 (1,2) - Fix blanket ok
02:51:265 (6) - Angle this a bit more up for better flow (http://puu.sh/uORlV/5a4704b38c.jpg) want to keep the symmetry with 02:51:936 (3) -
02:55:288 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make this into a star pattern? don't really feel like that
03:33:667 (1,2,3) - Stack on 03:32:746 (1) - to make spacing consistent with (03:32:578 (4,1) and 03:33:165 (1) - ) will ruin the whole following pattern

Hard
00:42:215 (1) - move to x384 y376 to fix diamond pattern ok
01:58:137 (4,5,1) - make consistent ds? ok

solid diff
SeaRasp
Hi M4M

Wind
  1. Silencing the slider ends of all the sliders like 00:17:578 (1) - would sound much better while playing and to reflect the song maybe yes, I'm personally fine with either way though
  2. 01:10:288 (4,1,1) - I always messed this part up when playing but I know it's intentional just hard to read best part
  3. 01:44:561 (1,2,3,4) - awkward flow IMO I kinda like this
  4. 01:47:578 (3,4,5,1) - can't understand this rhythm I feel like 01:47:746 (4) - should also be mapped it doesn't feel right when playing but there 's really no drums in the music and I hate adding it
  5. 02:53:276 (1) - Add NC for consistency with 02:52:774 (1) - nice catch


Alright that's all I felt limited in time :/
Good Luck !
UndeadCapulet
At your request:

Wind


Not too sure why this is Tick Rate 2, I think 1 fits your 1/1 holds a lot better, there's never really a beat for the sliderticks to follow. used for the consistent 1/2 guitar beat in most parts thuoguh, will reconsider about this and try to reach consensus with Frey
  1. 00:12:550 (1,2) - I think making this a 1/2 repeat would fit the guitar really well here. Same for similar guitar parts like 01:27:634 (1,2) - , etc. it's an interesting idea but you should know I'm really not a fan of 1/2 reverses when building flow in highest diffs except for making some particular patterns if you've read a lot of my maps
  2. 00:17:075 (1) - I don't rly think this NC is necessary, even with the sv change it's really obvious this is a 1/2 slider. This kinda just makes your nc job inconsistent imo.. yes removed as it's the only one in this part
  3. 01:09:533 (3) - :x The note here isn't really mapped to a beat, so it detracts from the 3/4 drumbeat here. I think you can find another solution than adding this note, the rest of the map has really nice 3/4 rhythming so the note here is kinda lame (I tried http://puu.sh/uPqzI/bdb43a23c7.jpg out, dunno if you'll like it tho. Also just tried making 01:09:198 (2) - a repeat and it sorta worked?) Applies to other kiais as well. this part of rhythm really bothers me but I failed to find other good solutions after tons of remakes when I mapped this part. 01:08:863 (1) - and even all the former part of kiai would feel too weird if not starting slider from 01:09:198 - and also I think I need a jump to 01:09:617 (4) - so hmm
  4. 01:13:556 (3) - imo this should be nc'd since this has the same amount of power as 01:12:885 (1) - and 01:14:226 (1) - . Same for the later kiais. well I was just generally following the NC consistency though, ok then it sounds reasonable
  5. 01:23:025 - this is the only drumbeat in the whole map you skip, seems a bit weird imo I skipped that because I think it's offbeat in the music itself so I tried to refrain from mapping to it to be safe. blame drummer for no stable 1/4
  6. 01:43:556 (4,5) - This is a lot smoother of a motion than 01:46:237 (4,5) - , I think you should turn the slider in some way (maybe like this idk) so the snap to the slider is stronger. hmm, not really a big deal imo
  7. 02:53:276 (3) - NC :Pyessssss

Great as always

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Hard

  1. 00:30:148 (1,2) - Don't think the 00:30:399 - beat is important enough here, I think making 00:30:148 (1) - 1/2 (or even circles) to fit the guitar is nicer hmm the current feels fine imo
  2. 02:13:723 (1,2,3) - I think the clickable rhythms here are unfitting here. All the emphasis is on the white ticks here so having Hard-level players click on the red ticks is weird feeling to me. I don't really think there's any problem though, changed to another rhythm


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Easy


I've been told that 00:48:919 (1) - is a questionable slider design because the sliderborder is obscured at the tail. I think it should be okay for ranking because it's still really obvious how to play it, but if people give you trouble try a design like this instead. decided to keep for now and see what nominators say

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thanks for your mods!
@Frey: added tags for your diff
All diffs updated
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Gaia

Gaia wrote:

[frey]
01:04:003 (2,3) - ctrl+g both? seems a bit difficult than I could stand
01:10:371 (1) - try 2 low spacing circles? would be a cool effect i think ok!
01:12:885 (1) - ctrl+g this? it's harder to react than 01:12:885 (1,2) - so I choose to keep it
01:23:612 (1) - try moving this to the right more for slightly better spacing emphasis :p fixed
01:46:237 (5,1,2) - 01:48:919 (4,1,2) - rhythm sounds weird since u were following vocals before ...however I think it's quite easy to react when all sliders start on 1/1 white line.
02:54:114 (5) - finish? I copied zero wind's hitsound, so if he doesn't change it, I won't change it either
Deppyforce

Deppyforce wrote:

[frey]
00:16:908 - in the verse there are so many ignored 1/4s while its fine i dont think it should be ignored cuz when u map 2-3 of them and then u ignore the rest it just feels unbalanced, but do whatever you want i guess fine, all ignored
00:48:165 - now this drum is one of the stronger ones so u definitely shouldnt ignore this if u mapped stuff like 00:43:472 (6) - wel tbh I didn't notice this sound, maybe the voice is louder than drum so I missed it.
01:04:338 (3) - honestly i think this is overly spaced for such a weak sound on it slider is easier to catch than circle, guess it won't be hard to play
01:23:025 (4) -is hitsound missing? fixed
01:28:975 (1,4) - im nazi but these arent perfect parallel atm fixed
01:58:304 (4) - u sure u dont wanna make this clickable? 01:58:304 (4) - and u kinda overdo the spacing on sliders start which kinda makes no sense fixed
02:12:047 (1) - its a bit weird that this is as fast as 02:11:042 (3,4) - but its obviously noticeably weaker fixed
02:23:947 (2) - stack end nazi fixed
02:46:237 (1,2,3) - might wanna nc these 3 so its easier to tell that its 3/4 gap and not just some highly spaced 1/2 jumps like 02:46:908 (1,2) - ? fixed
03:07:355 (3) - change to 1/4 reverse slider? u can still map vocals but also mapping 1/4 drums at the same time better didn't find a nice way to map it so I would keep it for a while
03:39:701 (2,3) - lol wtf nerfed
DTM9 Nowa

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

Frey

00:00:651 (1,2,3) - 00:01:154 (1,2,3,4) - (and 00:03:332 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - ) Instead of having two different patterns on exactly similar beats right next to each other you really should decide one way of mapping them (maybe mapping the three first notes as little bit smaller jumps would improve the pattern?) or justify why mapping the same beats two different ways right next to each other is fine and does represent the song like any map should I have NCed those sections to notice ppl : same sound, different spacing. it isn't an issue cuz making them the same doesn't seem like a creative idea.

01:10:204 (8,1) - Idk about this but imo it would be really cool that the 8 was almost stacked with the head of 1 so it would represent the stop -ish sound in the song i've changed this one from last mod so, skip.

01:31:656 - It would be much better if this would be an active note by one way or another since it theoretically starts the new section have to say reverse slider is a pale idea before I think up something better... I didn't come up one so, yeah, just keep it maybe

02:14:059 (1,2,3) - This doesn't really make sense to me, could you justify this pattern? making it easier? however i think ppl nowadays can deal with such kick sliders easily... and it's not very hard imo

02:46:237 (1,2,3) - Maybe you could NC all these notes to surely alert the people of the 3/4 notes like zero wind did on the top difficulty? fixed

03:21:852 - You could map a spinner here so every difficulty would have a spinner here umm, leaving a break would be better, or someone would say it's too hard without a break.
DavidEd

DavidEd wrote:

Frey's Insane
00:09:366 (4,1) - Blanket obvious in edit, not obvious in game, then it's not very necessary
00:19:422 (1) - Move to x248 y180 to fix diamond pattern I meant to put it in the middle...
00:21:349 - Missing beat
00:24:701 - ^
00:26:712 - ^
00:29:394 - ^
You missed these triples alot in this part. And you seemed to be following the drums quite frequently aswell so idk why you'd leave them out.
this part is not intense, so i chose to ignore all the triples.

01:02:997 (4,5,1) - Shouldn't 1 have more emphasize than 5?
01:26:126 (6,1) - Space 1 out more for proper emphasize
01:27:466 (6,1) - ^
01:38:025 (3,4) - Move these down, no reason to increase spacing on nothing i actually quite dislike to map a large spacing when there's is a high pitch for every single case. emphasize which is not normal is not a problem. sometimes we could choose pattern more when mapping. in a word, if it's won't make anything tricky that hurts playing performance, then it's totally safe. or we could kill all symmetric map cuz their didn't follow the concept.

01:40:371 (2) - Convert to 2 notes for proper rhythm 01:40:707 (3,4,5,6,1) - would be easier to catch if it's a slider
02:04:003 (1) - Stack on 5 ummm. not willing to
03:21:936 - Add spinner to emphasize guitar note? leaving a break would be better

Didnt really like the way you spaced out things in this diff. 03:47:913 (5,6,1) - as an example. idk why 6 is more spaced out when 1 is the heavier beat. Other than that the diff flows well. sorry if you don't like... i tried to map it safe as far as i could. I can't map something that totally change my standard and experience.
SeaRasp

SeaRasp wrote:

Frey's Insane
  1. 00:01:154 (1,2,3) - I think you should keep low spacing like before and make 00:01:656 (4) - stand out, it's the only different sound I've NCed so differences could be ignored
  2. 00:02:327 (4) - I think the slider end should be clickable cuz the sound is much stronger and should stand out more fixed
  3. 00:03:332 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Here again I don't understand the spacing they are all bland sounds so should keep spacing consistent and make 00:04:505 (5) - stand out and the NC is weird too at 00:03:835 (1) - no reason the same as above, I knew it could be the same spacing, but why we could have different spacing when we notice you by NC
  4. 00:15:483 (1) - Spinner should start where the sound starts no ? at 00:15:483 (3) - i don't get it, the spinner here is fine
  5. 00:23:947 (2,3) - I don't understand why you would map the drums here and not before where the beats are the same I think you should map them there also but judging from the way you mapped it next I think this tripple should be removed fixed
  6. 00:33:835 (6) - Piano could be mapped here it's pretty noticeable like 00:32:830 (1) - so why not xD Try something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7598064 where the piano is covered and 00:34:003 (1) - is also more emphasized it's not a good choice that follow piano track when your song is fully drum-based
  7. 00:39:198 (4,1) - Flows kinda weird because it's so linear and the sliders are really close to each other and you would expect the downbeat to be more spaced usually. A solution would be to ctrl g both 00:39:198 (4,1) - but there are better ways so I'll let you chose keep it i guess
  8. 01:08:360 (1) - Remove NC and add it here 01:08:863 (3) - and remove it here 01:09:366 (1) - to keep things consistent. However you could add one here 01:09:869 (1) - remove here 01:10:371 (4) - and add here 01:10:707 (1) - as it is the more important slider which covers the finish you did that here 03:35:176 (5,1) - (this applies to similar sections in following kiais) i just wanted to avoid 2 digit notes, at least i won't cause confusion
  9. I think adding a NC here 01:16:237 (3) - and 01:17:243 (3) - would fit better with your overall concept for this section (applies to other similar parts as well)
  10. 01:26:126 (6,1) - Distance should definitely be increased to emphasize the finish on the slider it looks nice so... I don't want to change it. iand I don't think it's an issue that must be done
  11. 01:31:321 (2) - Feels weird to have the note which marks the beginning of a new section be mapped as a reverse arrow maybe consider making it clickable keep it before I come up with something better, for now it's safe to do it like that
  12. 01:53:276 (1) - NC here to emphasize finish and mark the downbeat i did it to avoid combo number which is too big or small
  13. 02:00:148 (2,3) - overspaced IMO compared to the rest of the section not very hard to play... it's a limited overmap, it's safe
  14. 02:16:237 (1,2) - This again feels overspaced when compared to 02:17:075 (5,1) - which should be much larger
  15. 03:43:221 (1) - forgot NC fixed


Diff could use work in emphasis and aesthetics but I can't judge your style not emphasised and aesthetic? ok.....
UndeadCapulet

UndeadCapulet wrote:

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Frey's Insane


00:59:478 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Nice fish \\(=>ω <=)

gl with your diff~
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Wind

00:27:802 (3,4) - I think using two circles instead of a kickslider will work better. The way you set this up it creates an unusual clicking rhythm for the player. Its likt 5/4 then 3/4 between 3>4>5 and you don't really come back to a rhythm like this, or support it elsewhere. My main problem is that it comes after a 1/1 slider. Stuff like 00:33:332 (4,5) - is fine though.
00:47:076 (5,1,2) - I don't think this is a good rhythm choice since you followed the vocals really closely with your circle/slider rhytms earlier: 00:45:567 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - .

00:57:718 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This rhythm is quite questionable imo. I think using triplets would be better, though it would make the rhythm more dense. Another idea is extending the sliders to 1/2 sliders instead of 1/4...
02:12:634 (2) - I would move this to the white tick and add another circle on 02:12:634 (2) - . Emphasizes the drum better by actually making it clickable.
02:32:830 (1,2) - This jump is unnecessarily big imo... I don't think 2 needs to be thaaat emphasized.
03:42:550 (1,2) - ^

Cool use of polarity shifting rhythms.

Frey's Insane

00:31:154 (4) - How about stacking with 00:29:980 (1) - 's tail for symmetry? Also creates emphasis onto 00:31:321 (1) - instead.
01:53:109 (1,2,3) - I think its better to just use a stack here, since imo this section of the song is a bit less intense than the previous section.

Pro.

Hard

00:02:159 (2,3) - I would do two 1/2 sliders instead. The drum on 00:02:494 - really deserves a click imo. There's also the guitar too ;c.
01:45:232 (1,3) - 01:45:902 (3,4,1) - I think the structure between these patterns could be a bit more consistent.
02:03:835 (7,1) - Wish this could be moved down or something. The visual coming out of slider 6's path looks kinda bad imo.
03:32:327 (1,1) - I don't think polarity shifting rhythms like this are good on a Hard. Stick with red/white ticks because you can't expect players to realize there are only 2 repeats here and 3 repeats on 03:33:165 (1) - and shift their rhythm accordingly. Rather, at this level, players will just end up mashing keys here instead of actually deciphering the rhythm, so its better to simplify.

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Lower diffs look fine!
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Monstrata wrote:

Wind

00:27:802 (3,4) - I think using two circles instead of a kickslider will work better. The way you set this up it creates an unusual clicking rhythm for the player. Its likt 5/4 then 3/4 between 3>4>5 and you don't really come back to a rhythm like this, or support it elsewhere. My main problem is that it comes after a 1/1 slider. Stuff like 00:33:332 (4,5) - is fine though. I tried for circles before but it doesn't play good imo so I change them back. the sudden white tick triple plays really awkward to me and I think using a slider could make it easier handled. also I used the 1/4 sliders in this part to emphasize the snaredrums on blue ticks like at 00:32:075 - and 00:33:584 - which I think are more important the bassdrum beat on the white tick, and 00:28:221 (4) - is also the case, so I'd prefer to keep it as slider to make the clap on head stand out
00:47:076 (5,1,2) - I don't think this is a good rhythm choice since you followed the vocals really closely with your circle/slider rhytms earlier: 00:45:567 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - . ok changed like suggestion. also changed hitsound accordingly, and for lower diffs
00:57:718 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This rhythm is quite questionable imo. I think using triplets would be better, though it would make the rhythm more dense. Another idea is extending the sliders to 1/2 sliders instead of 1/4... sorry I really like this part the gradually increasing sv expresses the fading in music and the two beats of the sliders 00:57:718 (2,2,2,2,2) - present the same keyboard tone like how I've used whistles on them. and just saying, changing them all into circles would make this pattern too hard and unfitting at this point of the music so I'd keep them as they are
02:12:634 (2) - I would move this to the white tick and add another circle on 02:12:634 (2) - . Emphasizes the drum better by actually making it clickable. really cool
02:32:830 (1,2) - This jump is unnecessarily big imo... I don't think 2 needs to be thaaat emphasized. I think it's quite the same as 01:17:746 (1,2) - and not that hard to play considering the slider leniency. also, I think the beat on 02:33:165 (2) - is as important as the one on 02:32:830 (1) - and I have finish sounds on both of them to express that
03:42:550 (1,2) - ^ didn't change pattern but I tried to reduce the spacing a bit to this more similar to the former two kiais, 4.7x -> 4.3x

Cool use of polarity shifting rhythms. yesssss

Hard

00:02:159 (2,3) - I would do two 1/2 sliders instead. The drum on 00:02:494 - really deserves a click imo. There's also the guitar too ;c. I would like to keep this to make 00:02:159 (2,4) - corresponding to each other, as they present the same bass notes
01:45:232 (1,3) - 01:45:902 (3,4,1) - I think the structure between these patterns could be a bit more consistent. I think I've made them consistent having general spacing 1.3x and small jump with 1.6x . changed the part 01:47:913 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - to make it easier to read though
02:03:835 (7,1) - Wish this could be moved down or something. The visual coming out of slider 6's path looks kinda bad imo. fixed in other way
03:32:327 (1,1) - I don't think polarity shifting rhythms like this are good on a Hard. Stick with red/white ticks because you can't expect players to realize there are only 2 repeats here and 3 repeats on 03:33:165 (1) - and shift their rhythm accordingly. Rather, at this level, players will just end up mashing keys here instead of actually deciphering the rhythm, so its better to simplify. well yeah, hope it's fine now

Also, I changed the stacking pattern at the beginning into manual stacks, in order to make the pattern work better with HR, especially for 00:03:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -

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Lower diffs look fine!
thanks for your mod!
waiting for Frey All Diffs Updated!
posted

Monstrata wrote:

Frey's Insane

00:31:154 (4) - How about stacking with 00:29:980 (1) - 's tail for symmetry? Also creates emphasis onto 00:31:321 (1) - instead. fine~
01:53:109 (1,2,3) - I think its better to just use a stack here, since imo this section of the song is a bit less intense than the previous section. stack looks not good, shortening instead

Pro. :)
Thanks for your mod! :)

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Romanised Artist: Manami Numakura

Seems she has a preferred romanization so let's follow that. First two images are taken from her album covers, third one is from the official Fuuka website.

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Monstrata wrote:

Romanised Artist: Manami Numakura

Seems she has a preferred romanization so let's follow that. First two images are taken from her album covers, third one is from the official Fuuka website.

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Bubbled~
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Qualified~............................................................................................................................................................
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Breaking BN rules even before you become a BN.
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hello!! this song is fantastic~

popping because we need to discuss about a couple of things as well as the diff spread between e-n being problematic, details below

zero

01:04:505 (4,5) - should get nerfed cause vocals are getting really weak here http://i.imgur.com/FaLCh44.jpg
01:15:399 (4,5,6,7) - should get nerfed cause drums are getting weaker
01:53:276 - hitsounds are too loud on this section, what about 40%?
02:11:209 (4,5,6,7) - angle is extremely sharp for what the song is demanding, can you consider adjusting (6)?
02:35:343 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - really subjective, but could you improve the streamshape slightly? i think you could do a better job at this :(
02:46:237 (1,1,1) - throughout the entirety of the map you are using these to mark 1/2 patterns, and these felt quite hard to read when testplaying. a slider would definitely kill the purpose of the map, but spacing these out would be a better idea in my opinion
02:57:969 - 03:00:651 - 03:03:332 - etc. tbh you are allowed to "overmap" here because the polarity to a circle is not as lenient as sliders, you know how it works already so yada yada!
03:43:221 (3) - shouldn't this be nc'd? and since we are at it, remove it 03:45:064 (1) - ?
03:53:276 (5,6) - jump felt quite short after all that pattern and seeing music doesn't get any calmer
03:56:377 - you shouldn't really silence the body because there's a guitar that means there's going to be no feedback whatsoever when it should be some. mute the tails instead

frey

00:08:528 (1,2) - 00:11:209 (1,2) - 00:12:550 (1,2) - spacing could be slightly buffed here, seems weird to have these like that when 00:09:869 (1,2) - 00:13:891 (1,2) - are properly emphasised
01:02:159 (1,2,3,4,5) - can you consider http://i.imgur.com/TNzqZqB.jpg for vocals? it kinda sounds off right now :(
01:19:254 (4,5,6) - why are you decreasing the spacing for visuals when it musically doesn't change? aaa
01:48:919 (4) - 2 circles here sound better
02:16:237 (1,2) - not sure if this is intentional, but this jump is huge after hitting 02:15:232 (3,4,5,1) - i would reduce it a bit more because it plays quite awkward
02:43:891 (4,5) - buff this as you have been doing throughout the map?
02:50:930 (1,2) - stack here is quite unnecessary if you ask me, is there any reason for the anti jump?
02:59:813 (4,5,6,7,1) - stop and go is that pattern you want to avoid on pretty much every difficulty because it plays super awkwardly, consider decreasing 02:59:645 (3,4,5) - but buffing 03:00:148 (7,1) - for vocals
03:21:768 (1) - note is stressed, spacing should be lesser instead of a jump

not a huge fan of this difficulty, to be honest. there's a lot of patterning sacrifying emphasis and the song as a whole
then you have sections like 02:57:634 - where i am not particular sure what are you trying to do/follow because it just feels off from the song completely
would appreciate a lot if you would go through this difficulty because it needs work

hard

00:21:098 (2,3,4) - etc. is this intentional? cause this seems really, relaly hard to read for a hard-level player
02:12:634 - great spot for a triplet!
02:33:500 (3,1) - first time you are doing this on the map and it feels so wrong because it's unexpected and hard to predict. then you also do it on 02:54:952 (7,1) - which is more readable, but again... why? every other pattern is spaced out, making these feel unconnected to the difficulty. would be way better if you could keep the 1/1 stacks only for 03:08:360 -
03:08:360 - speaking of which! 03:08:360 (1,2) - these are stacked, 03:09:533 (3,1) - these are stacked. check snapping and try an alternative, this is tricky for scrubs :(
03:21:768 (4) - you nc'd this one on the highest diff

normal

00:46:237 (1,2,3,4) - pattern here is kinda dense compared to everything else that is way more relevant, i'd consider something such as http://i.imgur.com/JBjt2e5.jpg that for example
01:31:656 - considering how this section was mapped it feels like it's part of the chorus as well when it is not, why? because it is using as many objects as the rest of the most intense sections. for example 02:09:366 - uses way less density while being more intense
03:21:768 (7) - you nc'd this one too!
03:34:170 (3) - why does this one have a different hitsound when it's representing the same sound as 03:33:835 (2,4,5) - ?

easy

00:05:343 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - every single important beat lands on the less important part of the slider, the repeat. this makes it extremely weird because the whole emphasis is put onto a non clickable section of it. none the release, nor the click is important here, they are being ignored because yes :(
same applies to 03:46:573 (2,1,2,1,2,3) - , circle + slider seems more prominent to me
01:31:656 - same as in normal, this feels like part of the chorus, density is just huge
03:06:349 (2) - not sure if this is offscreen
03:21:768 (4) - you nc'd this one as well!!

this difficult presents a lot of breaks that are making your spread from e-n being quite high. normal has little to no breaks, same with hard. but this difficulty just feels like it's for truly beginners, and while going to the next difficulty it just feels like a huge gap; there it seems to be a huge disproportion when comparing the non-kiais with the kiais, that's what i'm meaning, which isn't showed in the rest of the difficulties that much.

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i love this song tbh
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