This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sonntag, 12. März 2017 at 15:17:47

Artist: Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Title: Wizards in Winter (Nightcore Ver.)
Tags: trans siberian orchestra wizards in winter nightcore ver
BPM: 185,5
Filesize: 6708kb
Play Time: 02:25
Difficulties Available:

1. Alvin's Extra (5,69 stars, 621 notes)
2. BLiZZARD (6,44 stars, 776 notes)
3. DubSteppinNinja's Hard (3,1 stars, 413 notes)
4. HC's Normal (2,27 stars, 221 notes)
5. nyu's Easy (1,82 stars, 203 notes)
6. SnoWStorM (6,41 stars, 813 notes)

Download: Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Wizards in Winter (Nightcore Ver.)
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extra diff

02:13:855 (1,2,3,4,5) - fix this star, it looks awkward as hell
02:07:710 (1,2,1,2) - too jumpy, this might make the mapset unrankable

not a lot of modding since i'm shit at it

hope i helped

[Extra]
00:49:763 (4) - You might want to put a NC here because this section is not necesairly a part of the 00:48:470 (1,2,3) - section, it's just an optional NC though!
00:46:367 (2) - You probably want to remove this circle because the sound is hardly heard, try removing them and listen to it yourself here are some other examples of this :
00:47:661 (2) -
00:48:955 (2) -
00:51:542 (4) -
00:52:836 (4) -
01:04:319 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This stream almost looks disconnected to the other one which it is suppose to be connected to aka this one : 01:03:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'd recommend moving it more to the right (the whole thing) so that the first combo 01:04:319 (1) - is at x192 y56
01:10:141 (1) - I highly question if this jump was on purpose, it's extremely out of nowhere, sure you want the last circle in the stream to be of signifigance but seriously, this is a bit too much and out of nowhere, make it rejoin the end of the stream! aka x384 y176
01:09:494 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here I wan't to suggest the same thing as I did with 01:04:319 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - You can probably see it very clearly now that I pointed it out before right? Basicaly move this section of the stream closer to the base stream!
01:19:036 (6) - Put an NC here as it follows the exact same kind of pattern you are doing with the exact same structure of circle and slider ahead.
01:33:914 (1,1) - Probably a NC error here, pretty sure you wanna remove the NC on 01:34:076 (1) - right?
01:48:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Not to repeat myself but if you're this far into the mod I think you should know what I want you to do here, (move it to the right so it connects to the base stream.)
01:53:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
02:00:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like this section of the stream looks a little odd since the first circle starts out a little far away from 02:00:518 (8) - I'd recommend to move the section I mentioned closer to (8) though this one is not nearly as important as the ones I've mentioned earlier so this one is rather more optional.
02:04:480 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Kind of the same problem as I mentioned just one notch above of this suggestion, 02:04:480 (1) - This circle is really far away from 02:04:399 (8) - though i'd say this fix is more important than the one above since this is quite bigger.
02:05:532 (6) - This circle ends again a bit faraway from 02:05:612 (7) - basicaly do as I mentioned above ^
02:05:612 (7) - I know this is super picky but I question if you really want it to be y115 instead of y112? I'd say this is another small error you did but you never know for sure.
02:17:418 (1) - The other repeat sliders in this stream is really close to the circles, for example:
02:18:712 (1) -
02:20:006 (1) -
02:21:300 (1) -
I'd recommend moving 02:17:418 (1) - to y88 for this reason.

[DubSteppinNinja's Hard]
00:13:871 (3) - Doesn't this slider kind of end on a weird tick? I don't hear no sound it fits on there. I'd recommend changing all of these sliders to circles instead?
00:19:047 (6) - ^
00:19:694 (1) - ^
00:20:987 (1) - ^
00:22:281 (1) - ^
00:35:219 (1) - ^
00:36:513 (1) - ^
00:55:920 (1) - ^
00:57:214 (1) - ^
00:58:508 (1) - ^
01:11:446 (1) - ^
01:12:739 (1) - ^
01:39:909 (1) - ^
01:41:203 (1) - ^
01:42:497 (5) - Make this slider shorter, I do feel like it ends on a sound nearby but not on the one you ended the slider on.

Hey, the mod for your Extra diff as promised:

[Extra]

1. 00:00:287 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - As we talked about before, I suggest you use a note/note/slider pattern throughout these rhythms like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/Hu7CdlRi - It's important because as of now the strongest sound in this pattern 00:00:933 (2) - has no momentum because it's stacked under another note - it would feel better if there was a jump everytime this strong sound occurs
   
2. 00:04:815 (5,6,7,8) - I think it'd be very fitting if you gradually increased the spacing here to match the pitch getting higher and higher, for example 1,05 - 1,10 - 1,15 - 1,20 etc. like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/JXQvgDI0 to do this, you can hold alt+shift to get precise decimal numbers with Distance Snap. You can apply something similar to 00:09:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - , 00:14:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - etc.
   
3. 00:18:885 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This linear pattern plays kinda oddly, what about something like https://voli.s-ul.eu/7say35w1 this? where you increase the spacing from 00:19:532 (6,7) - so you have a jump on the huge emphasis on 7.
   
4. 00:20:826 (5,6) - increase spacing between these, 00:20:987 (6) - has far more emphasis than the previous jumps and they are spaced exactly the same atm, if you apply this, apply the same to 00:22:119 (5,6) -
   
5. 00:24:545 (3,4,1) - why did you ignore the quintuple beat here? That'd make for an interesting burst stream pattern
   
6. 00:28:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - again this would probably be more interesting if you did something with the spacing because the pitch gets higher and higher (something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/upkxnRuR)
   
7. 00:29:882 (8,1) - more spacing plz huge emphasis owo
   
8. 00:30:529 (5,1) - 00:30:529 (5,1) - same goes for these 00:31:176 (5,1) - etc. The reason they need more spacing is because you spaced 00:31:499 (2,3) - these way more when there's more emphasis on the first downbeat
   
9. 00:36:998 (1) - maybe give this slider a repeat, would be fitting
   
10. 00:46:540 (2) - These slider shapes are a bit iffy, maybe try to do something with red points like https://voli.s-ul.eu/SRRQOxko this?
    
11. 00:57:052 (3) - hmmm the sliderend is covering the downbeat with that emphasis D: I strongly suggest to remove the slider and make 00:56:729 (2) - a repeat instead, so you can make a jump on 00:57:214 - with a note. Same goes for 00:58:346 (5) -
    
12. 01:03:683 (1,2) - Why are these notes differently spaced than the rest of this section of the stream? 01:03:844 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
    
13. 01:07:483 (8,1) - Since the new section of the stream starts on 01:07:564 (1) - , consider spacing it away a bit more from the previous section
    
14. 01:13:225 (1,2,3,4,5) - Oh you actually did the gradually increasing spacing here, i like owo
    
15. 01:14:033 (6) - I'd just place 4 low spaced notes instead, it seems more fitting than a repeating slider since they are four very short ticking noises and a slider suggests more of a ''hold'' sound
    
16. 01:17:753 (6,1) - stacking these isn't a very good idea as 01:17:915 (1) - is the start of a new sequence and usually a jump feels right between them
    
17. 01:18:561 (5,1,2) - consider placing 01:19:047 (1) - towards 01:18:561 (5) - instead so that you can have a jump from 01:19:047 (1) - to 01:19:208 (2) - to match the emphasis
    
18. 01:39:747 (8) - Same as before, the slider end covers the downbeat
    
19. 01:41:203 (6) - Preferrably more spacing than the rest of this sequence as it's a stronger sound
    
20. 01:42:497 (6) - ^
    
21. 02:07:726 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I feel the change in spacing in this section is a bit unwarranted, you go from fullscreen jumps to low spacing when the music only gets more and more intense, it feels a bit counterintuitive

I hope it helped a bit! Good luck

Negri_sk wrote:

[Extra]
00:49:763 (4) - You might want to put a NC here because this section is not necesairly a part of the 00:48:470 (1,2,3) - section, it's just an optional NC though!
00:46:367 (2) - You probably want to remove this circle because the sound is hardly heard, try removing them and listen to it yourself here are some other examples of this :
00:47:661 (2) -
00:48:955 (2) -
00:51:542 (4) -
00:52:836 (4) -
01:04:319 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This stream almost looks disconnected to the other one which it is suppose to be connected to aka this one : 01:03:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'd recommend moving it more to the right (the whole thing) so that the first combo 01:04:319 (1) - is at x192 y56
01:10:141 (1) - I highly question if this jump was on purpose, it's extremely out of nowhere, sure you want the last circle in the stream to be of signifigance but seriously, this is a bit too much and out of nowhere, make it rejoin the end of the stream! aka x384 y176
01:09:494 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here I wan't to suggest the same thing as I did with 01:04:319 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - You can probably see it very clearly now that I pointed it out before right? Basicaly move this section of the stream closer to the base stream!
01:19:036 (6) - Put an NC here as it follows the exact same kind of pattern you are doing with the exact same structure of circle and slider ahead.
01:33:914 (1,1) - Probably a NC error here, pretty sure you wanna remove the NC on 01:34:076 (1) - right?
01:48:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Not to repeat myself but if you're this far into the mod I think you should know what I want you to do here, (move it to the right so it connects to the base stream.)
01:53:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
02:00:599 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like this section of the stream looks a little odd since the first circle starts out a little far away from 02:00:518 (8) - I'd recommend to move the section I mentioned closer to (8) though this one is not nearly as important as the ones I've mentioned earlier so this one is rather more optional.
02:04:480 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Kind of the same problem as I mentioned just one notch above of this suggestion, 02:04:480 (1) - This circle is really far away from 02:04:399 (8) - though i'd say this fix is more important than the one above since this is quite bigger.
02:05:532 (6) - This circle ends again a bit faraway from 02:05:612 (7) - basicaly do as I mentioned above ^
02:05:612 (7) - I know this is super picky but I question if you really want it to be y115 instead of y112? I'd say this is another small error you did but you never know for sure.
02:17:418 (1) - The other repeat sliders in this stream is really close to the circles, for example:
02:18:712 (1) -
02:20:006 (1) -
02:21:300 (1) -
I'd recommend moving 02:17:418 (1) - to y88 for this reason.

[DubSteppinNinja's Hard]
00:13:871 (3) - Doesn't this slider kind of end on a weird tick? I don't hear no sound it fits on there. I'd recommend changing all of these sliders to circles instead?
00:19:047 (6) - ^
00:19:694 (1) - ^
00:20:987 (1) - ^
00:22:281 (1) - ^
00:35:219 (1) - ^
00:36:513 (1) - ^
00:55:920 (1) - ^
00:57:214 (1) - ^
00:58:508 (1) - ^
01:11:446 (1) - ^
01:12:739 (1) - ^
01:39:909 (1) - ^
01:41:203 (1) - ^
01:42:497 (5) - Make this slider shorter, I do feel like it ends on a sound nearby but not on the one you ended the slider on.

Changed most of the things on the Extra; did not change anything on the Hard though, as I feel like the Hard is pretty good as it is :3 Thanks for the mod! <3

Voli wrote:

Hey, the mod for your Extra diff as promised:

[Extra]

1. 00:00:287 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - As we talked about before, I suggest you use a note/note/slider pattern throughout these rhythms like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/Hu7CdlRi - It's important because as of now the strongest sound in this pattern 00:00:933 (2) - has no momentum because it's stacked under another note - it would feel better if there was a jump everytime this strong sound occurs
   
2. 00:04:815 (5,6,7,8) - I think it'd be very fitting if you gradually increased the spacing here to match the pitch getting higher and higher, for example 1,05 - 1,10 - 1,15 - 1,20 etc. like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/JXQvgDI0 to do this, you can hold alt+shift to get precise decimal numbers with Distance Snap. You can apply something similar to 00:09:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - , 00:14:518 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - etc.
   
3. 00:18:885 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This linear pattern plays kinda oddly, what about something like https://voli.s-ul.eu/7say35w1 this? where you increase the spacing from 00:19:532 (6,7) - so you have a jump on the huge emphasis on 7.
   
4. 00:20:826 (5,6) - increase spacing between these, 00:20:987 (6) - has far more emphasis than the previous jumps and they are spaced exactly the same atm, if you apply this, apply the same to 00:22:119 (5,6) -
   
5. 00:24:545 (3,4,1) - why did you ignore the quintuple beat here? That'd make for an interesting burst stream pattern
   
6. 00:28:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - again this would probably be more interesting if you did something with the spacing because the pitch gets higher and higher (something like this https://voli.s-ul.eu/upkxnRuR)
   
7. 00:29:882 (8,1) - more spacing plz huge emphasis owo
   
8. 00:30:529 (5,1) - 00:30:529 (5,1) - same goes for these 00:31:176 (5,1) - etc. The reason they need more spacing is because you spaced 00:31:499 (2,3) - these way more when there's more emphasis on the first downbeat
   
9. 00:36:998 (1) - maybe give this slider a repeat, would be fitting
   
10. 00:46:540 (2) - These slider shapes are a bit iffy, maybe try to do something with red points like https://voli.s-ul.eu/SRRQOxko this?
    
11. 00:57:052 (3) - hmmm the sliderend is covering the downbeat with that emphasis D: I strongly suggest to remove the slider and make 00:56:729 (2) - a repeat instead, so you can make a jump on 00:57:214 - with a note. Same goes for 00:58:346 (5) -
    
12. 01:03:683 (1,2) - Why are these notes differently spaced than the rest of this section of the stream? 01:03:844 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
    
13. 01:07:483 (8,1) - Since the new section of the stream starts on 01:07:564 (1) - , consider spacing it away a bit more from the previous section
    
14. 01:13:225 (1,2,3,4,5) - Oh you actually did the gradually increasing spacing here, i like owo
    
15. 01:14:033 (6) - I'd just place 4 low spaced notes instead, it seems more fitting than a repeating slider since they are four very short ticking noises and a slider suggests more of a ''hold'' sound
    
16. 01:17:753 (6,1) - stacking these isn't a very good idea as 01:17:915 (1) - is the start of a new sequence and usually a jump feels right between them
    
17. 01:18:561 (5,1,2) - consider placing 01:19:047 (1) - towards 01:18:561 (5) - instead so that you can have a jump from 01:19:047 (1) - to 01:19:208 (2) - to match the emphasis
    
18. 01:39:747 (8) - Same as before, the slider end covers the downbeat
    
19. 01:41:203 (6) - Preferrably more spacing than the rest of this sequence as it's a stronger sound
    
20. 01:42:497 (6) - ^
    
21. 02:07:726 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I feel the change in spacing in this section is a bit unwarranted, you go from fullscreen jumps to low spacing when the music only gets more and more intense, it feels a bit counterintuitive

I hope it helped a bit! Good luck

Took me some time to understand some of your mess :^) But I figured out what you meant and pretty much fixed a lot; I didn't do it exactly like you said , but I made it better, thanks for helping out!

Single diff mod
[BLIZZARD]

01:59:299 - No spaced streams. This section of song sounds NO DIFFERENT than other kiais like at 01:01:078 -. There is no volume or intensity difference between these two sections, so there is no reason whatsoever to double the DS. You can increase it by a bit because this is the final kia, but jesus christ not that much man! Also, if you are concerned about SR, it is still ~6.6 with the spaced streams removed, and probably a bit more with properly spaced streams.

02:12:237 - To kind of elaborate above, these jumps, in my opinion, are ok (although they seem a bit excessive. I would select the whole jump section, go to edit -> scale and scale it by .9 or .95). The song boosts intensity by a large margin here, so having these jumps is justified. What you did with the streams MIGHT be justified if the intensity of the music increases hardcore like in this jump section, but it really didnt, do it really doesnt deserve that big of a DS spike.

02:17:412 - 02:22:507 - I think it would be neat if after each reverse slider in this section, the DS dropped by .1 because the song is getting progressively less intense (the notes are getting lower).

ALSO, work on stream body shape. To get nice, satisfying curves, you can place down a slider, select it, and go to Compose -> Convert Slider to Stream. It will make your streams look good every time!

Hpocks wrote:

Single diff mod
[BLIZZARD]

01:59:299 - No spaced streams. This section of song sounds NO DIFFERENT than other kiais like at 01:01:078 -. There is no volume or intensity difference between these two sections, so there is no reason whatsoever to double the DS. You can increase it by a bit because this is the final kia, but jesus christ not that much man! Also, if you are concerned about SR, it is still ~6.6 with the spaced streams removed, and probably a bit more with properly spaced streams.

02:12:237 - To kind of elaborate above, these jumps, in my opinion, are ok (although they seem a bit excessive. I would select the whole jump section, go to edit -> scale and scale it by .9 or .95). The song boosts intensity by a large margin here, so having these jumps is justified. What you did with the streams MIGHT be justified if the intensity of the music increases hardcore like in this jump section, but it really didnt, do it really doesnt deserve that big of a DS spike.

02:17:412 - 02:22:507 - I think it would be neat if after each reverse slider in this section, the DS dropped by .1 because the song is getting progressively less intense (the notes are getting lower).

ALSO, work on stream body shape. To get nice, satisfying curves, you can place down a slider, select it, and go to Compose -> Convert Slider to Stream. It will make your streams look good every time!

I appreciate it! Updated the map and I like the changes a lot :3

Would you like some 3 stars?

Cool song ;w;

-Nicotine wrote:

Would you like some 3 stars?

Cool song ;w;

Ofc I would :3

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