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Hydria


1/2/3/4

General Stuff: Maybe switch the names of Soul's Hyper and Hard since I feel Hyper gives a higher indication of difficulty than hard does.
Soul's Hyper
add notes 00:04:846 - 00:05:077 - 00:05:885 -
remove notes 00:05:539 (5539|2) -
puts more focus on the background sounds here which I feel are louder than the normal foreground sounds

add notes: 00:06:693 - 00:06:923 - 00:07:731 - 00:08:539 - 00:08:770 -
remove notes: 00:07:385 (7385|1) - 00:09:231 (9231|0) -
same reason

00:09:577 (9577|3) - shouldn't this be a 1/1 LN starting 00:09:462 - ?

add notes 00:12:231 - 00:12:462 - because it feels surprisingly empty just following the melody, same 00:14:077 - 00:14:308 - 00:15:923 - 00:16:154 - 00:16:846 - 00:17:308 -

00:18:462 (18462|3) - remove this, it feels a lot better without, also you haven't included them throughout the rest of this section

00:19:846 (19846|1) - did you forget a double here

00:26:770 (26770|0,26770|2) - 00:30:462 (30462|2,30462|0) - can't hear the reason for these to be doubles

add notes: 00:33:000 - 00:34:846 - 00:36:693 - just because it goes along with the main melody

00:48:116 - missing a note here

00:49:962 (49962|2,50077|1,50193|0) - what's with the sudden LN usage

01:04:962 (64962|0) - feels out of place

01:12:231 (72231|0,72231|1) - maybe you shouldn't straight copy-paste yknow or at least check things out beforehand

01:13:385 (73385|0) - 01:14:308 (74308|3) - both also feel out of place

01:18:000 (78000|1,78231|0) - why are these two suddenly not LNs?

01:21:693 (81693|3,81923|0) - why not make these two LNs as well considering you have LNs later on

01:41:308 - 01:41:423 - why do these not have notes whilst 01:40:039 (100039|3,100154|1,100270|0,100385|2) - this does?

01:43:385 (103385|3) - ruins that whole offset beat

01:47:077 (107077|3) - 01:50:770 (110770|1) - 01:43:385 (103385|3,114462|3) - same tbhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

01:57:231 - until 02:48:923 - do the same stuff I recommended at the beginning of the mod I cba repeating it

02:49:846 (169846|2) - 02:51:693 (171693|2) - 02:53:539 (173539|0) - unnecessary notes

03:03:000 (183000|1) - should be 1/2?

03:03:462 (183462|2) - should end at 03:03:923 -

good luck with the mapset :)
Soul Evans

Hydria wrote:



1/2/3/4

General Stuff: Maybe switch the names of Soul's Hyper and Hard since I feel Hyper gives a higher indication of difficulty than hard does.
Soul's Hyper
add notes 00:04:846 - 00:05:077 - 00:05:885 -
remove notes 00:05:539 (5539|2) -
puts more focus on the background sounds here which I feel are louder than the normal foreground sounds Kinda want to keep this as it is tho

add notes: 00:06:693 - 00:06:923 - 00:07:731 - 00:08:539 - 00:08:770 -
remove notes: 00:07:385 (7385|1) - 00:09:231 (9231|0) -
same reason same reason too but i applied the adding part for both

00:09:577 (9577|3) - shouldn't this be a 1/1 LN starting 00:09:462 - ?Kinda, but thought it would play out nicely as regular notes considering the section is all notes too, but i could reconsider your option later in the future

add notes 00:12:231 - 00:12:462 - because it feels surprisingly empty just following the melody, same 00:14:077 - 00:14:308 - 00:15:923 - 00:16:154 - 00:16:846 - 00:17:308 -

00:18:462 (18462|3) - remove this, it feels a lot better without, also you haven't included them throughout the rest of this section

00:19:846 (19846|1) - did you forget a double here blame the fact i remapped this

00:26:770 (26770|0,26770|2) - 00:30:462 (30462|2,30462|0) - can't hear the reason for these to be doubles It was just an idea to start the sound or section, man i should really know the terms for these

add notes: 00:33:000 - 00:34:846 - 00:36:693 - just because it goes along with the main melody

00:48:116 - missing a note here

00:49:962 (49962|2,50077|1,50193|0) - what's with the sudden LN usage Because i wanted to give the ending section something a bit less repetative and something to start off the new section also it has a different pitch so i thought i'd give it a different kind of usage than the usually notes

01:04:962 (64962|0) - feels out of place

01:12:231 (72231|0,72231|1) - maybe you shouldn't straight copy-paste yknow or at least check things out beforehandI didn't copypaste but blame my hearing lol

01:13:385 (73385|0) - 01:14:308 (74308|3) - both also feel out of placeI don't get it, you mean it shouldn't be there? if so it's for snare so i'll keep it but i changed it if you thought it played awkwardly, but if that was the second case i also mapped it with pitch so, lol

01:18:000 (78000|1,78231|0) - why are these two suddenly not LNs? as a way to represent the high pitch of the ending repetative sound,
it felt better considering there is the other one ahead that i mapped it as regular notes so wanted it a bit consistent, also it would be hard making it into pitch w/ LNs considering i added a note above for the snare


01:21:693 (81693|3,81923|0) - why not make these two LNs as well considering you have LNs later on

01:41:308 - 01:41:423 - why do these not have notes whilst 01:40:039 (100039|3,100154|1,100270|0,100385|2) - this does?I think the beginner for the streak was a bit harsh compared to the end, the end i wanted to emphasize the LN a bit more

01:43:385 (103385|3) - ruins that whole offset beat Ah, well i wanted to keep it since i'm doing the 1/1 for the snares somewhere...personally i don't think it's too much of a problem lol

01:47:077 (107077|3) - 01:50:770 (110770|1) - 01:43:385 (103385|3,114462|3) - same tbhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsame reasoning mango

01:57:231 - until 02:48:923 - do the same stuff I recommended at the beginning of the mod I cba repeating it same

02:49:846 (169846|2) - 02:51:693 (171693|2) - 02:53:539 (173539|0) - unnecessary notes it's a good ascension for the guitar uprising thing so i wanted to exploit that there are other particular sounds for this effect, lol

03:03:000 (183000|1) - should be 1/2?listen carefully i did that solely for the a particular sound,but you made me notice i could make an LN for 03:03:231 (183231|3) - so i did that instead

03:03:462 (183462|2) - should end at 03:03:923 -

good luck with the mapset :)
Thanks hydria my b
Wonki
ayy
Easy
00:25:846 (25846|3) - If you hear the main melody, 00:25:731 - the pitch changes from here so the note needs to be located here

00:27:693 (27693|1) - same as above 00:27:577 -

00:29:539 (29539|1) - same 00:29:423 -

00:31:385 (31385|0) - yee 00:31:270 -

01:42:000 (102000|3) - This should be deleted like in 01:16:154 - since this feels a bit hard for an Easy diff

02:20:308 (140308|3) - 02:22:154 (142154|2) - 02:24:000 (144000|3) - 02:25:846 (145846|3) - same as 00:25:846 (25846|3) -

Normal
01:19:846 (79846|2) - move to 2 This 'shut up' sound works out better with a jack

01:31:154 - How about putting this as a jack too

stabled owo

Soul's Hard
00:24:808 (24808|0) - This should be a Long Note like below, i don't know why it's a normal note

00:33:462 - ,00:35:308 - I think 2note is fine

00:42:923 (42923|3,43154|0) - ,00:44:770 (44770|0,45000|2) - ,00:48:462 (48462|0,48693|3) - It should be a LN like these 00:41:077 (41077|0,41308|3) - , 00:50:308 (50308|3,50539|0) -

01:21:923 (81923|1) - 01:23:539 (83539|2,83770|1) - 01:25:616 (85616|0) - I think these notes are unnecesary since the drum sounds are missing here

02:19:270 (139270|0) - same as 00:24:808 (24808|0) -
Lude
Lude's Requested Modding
1 / 2 / 3 / 4


[SPEEDCORE!!]
  1. 00:04:385 (4385|2) - I don't really feel this has to be a LN. 00:04:500 - Emphasizing a more noticeable sound here would be better.
    PS here, I don't know if those LNs are intended for bass piano or high pitch piano sound. If so, 00:04:616 (4616|3) - 00:06:462 (6462|2) - 00:08:308 (8308|3) - These could be LN as well, either of both options would work, i guess.
  2. 00:10:154 - Add a note at 1
  3. 00:20:423 - 00:21:808 - You gave double for melody, here are melody sounds too
  4. 00:37:962 - There's a tick of drum sound, clearly audible and I guess it deserves a note
  5. 01:05:308 (65308|3) - I think this could be a LN?
  6. 01:22:039 - There's a shift on scratch sound, perhaps you could use LN to represent them, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8156988
  7. 02:57:923 - 03:00:693 - 03:01:616 - SV?
I think this difficulty could be much harder, specially from 01:27:693 - here on, you skipped several scratch sounds (01:28:500 - 01:28:616 - 01:30:346 - 01:30:462 - ), which could be represented as 1/8 streams. At least, clear sounds such as 01:30:289 - 01:32:135 - these deserve notes imo.

[Wonki's Extra]
  1. 00:04:962 (4962|0,6808|3,8654|1) - 이 노트들이 왜 빨강줄에 있는건지 의문입니다. 무슨 소리를 표현하신거죠? 어색하게 느껴집니다
  2. 00:26:308 - 00:26:539 - 00:28:154 - 00:28:385 - 이런 멜로디 음에도 하나씩 추가하는것도 나쁘지 않아보여요
  3. 00:43:154 - 00:46:616 - 노트 추가
  4. 01:12:116 - 하나 더있어도 전혀 어색하지 않을것같네요
  5. 01:16:616 (76616|1,76846|3,77077|0,77308|2,77539|1,77770|3) - 이 롱놋들이 반절정도로 더 짧으면 샤프한 소리를 강조해줄수 있을것 같아요. 실제로 저렇게 길게 들리지도 않구요.
  6. 01:21:923 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8157018
  7. 01:23:539 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8157019
  8. 01:27:750 - 01:29:596 - 3번에 노트 추가 / 01:31:443 - 1번에 추가 / 01:33:289 - 3번에 추가, 01:33:346 (93346|1) - 1로 이동, 01:33:404 - 2에 추가. 전부 표현할만한 소리들입니다.
  9. 01:36:693 (96693|3,96808|2) - 01:38:308 (98308|1,98423|0,98539|3,98654|2) - 롱놋으로?
굿또 럭크! Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Wonki wrote:

ayy
Easy
00:25:846 (25846|3) - If you hear the main melody, 00:25:731 - the pitch changes from here so the note needs to be located here

00:27:693 (27693|1) - same as above 00:27:577 -

00:29:539 (29539|1) - same 00:29:423 -

00:31:385 (31385|0) - yee 00:31:270 -
i'm following the 1/2 kick sound here, main sound is too complicated to follow

01:42:000 (102000|3) - This should be deleted like in 01:16:154 - since this feels a bit hard for an Easy diff
as this part is the most intense part of the song, make it a little bit harder than the rest shouldnt be a problem

02:20:308 (140308|3) - 02:22:154 (142154|2) - 02:24:000 (144000|3) - 02:25:846 (145846|3) - same as 00:25:846 (25846|3) -
like explained

Normal
01:19:846 (79846|2) - move to 2 This 'shut up' sound works out better with a jack

01:31:154 - How about putting this as a jack too

stabled owo
The rest fixed owo

Lude wrote:

Lude's Requested Modding
1 / 2 / 3 / 4


[SPEEDCORE!!]
  1. 00:04:385 (4385|2) - I don't really feel this has to be a LN. 00:04:500 - Emphasizing a more noticeable sound here would be better.
    ok added, but i will keep the ln as well
    PS here, I don't know if those LNs are intended for bass piano or high pitch piano sound. If so, 00:04:616 (4616|3) - 00:06:462 (6462|2) - 00:08:308 (8308|3) - These could be LN as well, either of both options would work, i guess.
    the piano is not fully followed in this part, otherwise the pattern will be a mess, i'm trying to follow the catchy piano only (more noticeable while playing)
  2. 00:10:154 - Add a note at 1
  3. 00:20:423 - 00:21:808 - You gave double for melody, here are melody sounds too
    fixed the first one, quite sure 00:21:808 - this one is not main melody
  4. 00:37:962 - There's a tick of drum sound, clearly audible and I guess it deserves a note
    kkk
  5. 01:05:308 (65308|3) - I think this could be a LN?
    kinda different with other LN sound imo (feels a bit weak for this one)
  6. 01:22:039 - There's a shift on scratch sound, perhaps you could use LN to represent them, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8156988
  7. 02:57:923 - 03:00:693 - 03:01:616 - SV?
    naisu, will work on it later, rn lazy
I think this difficulty could be much harder, specially from 01:27:693 - here on, you skipped several scratch sounds (01:28:500 - 01:28:616 - 01:30:346 - 01:30:462 - ), which could be represented as 1/8 streams. At least, clear sounds such as 01:30:289 - 01:32:135 - these deserve notes imo.

ik, but using 1/8 in such high bpm song is really pain to play (especially mix with other pattern), i dont want people just smash thru this section, so i use triple note at the beginning of each 1/8 (dont know if you notice) to emphasize the 1/8 instead of using real 1/8 notes
but i added the 1/4 you have pointed out
Thanks owo
DustMoon
reply my mod,plz QAQ
Wonki

Lude wrote:

Lude's Requested Modding
1 / 2 / 3 / 4


[Wonki's Extra]
  1. 00:04:962 (4962|0,6808|3,8654|1) - 이 노트들이 왜 빨강줄에 있는건지 의문입니다. 무슨 소리를 표현하신거죠? 어색하게 느껴집니다 메인음소린데요 굼벵이님아
  2. 00:26:308 - 00:26:539 - 00:28:154 - 00:28:385 - 이런 멜로디 음에도 하나씩 추가하는것도 나쁘지 않아보여요 그러려고했으나 00:26:423 - 이런곳에 음이있어서 일부러 1노트를했어요
  3. 00:43:154 - 00:46:616 - 노트 추가
  4. 01:12:116 - 하나 더있어도 전혀 어색하지 않을것같네요
  5. 01:16:616 (76616|1,76846|3,77077|0,77308|2,77539|1,77770|3) - 이 롱놋들이 반절정도로 더 짧으면 샤프한 소리를 강조해줄수 있을것 같아요. 실제로 저렇게 길게 들리지도 않구요. 쉽게 칠수있도록 의도적으로 붙인겁니다
  6. 01:21:923 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8157018
  7. 01:23:539 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8157019
  8. 01:27:750 - 01:29:596 - 3번에 노트 추가 / 01:31:443 - 1번에 추가 / 01:33:289 - 3번에 추가, 01:33:346 (93346|1) - 1로 이동, 01:33:404 - 2에 추가. 전부 표현할만한 소리들입니다.
  9. 01:36:693 (96693|3,96808|2) - 01:38:308 (98308|1,98423|0,98539|3,98654|2) - 롱놋으로?
굿또 럭크! Good Luck!
땡큐
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Updated
Soul Evans

Wonki wrote:

ayy

Soul's Hard
00:24:808 (24808|0) - This should be a Long Note like below, i don't know why it's a normal note good point

00:33:462 - ,00:35:308 - I think 2note is fine sure

00:42:923 (42923|3,43154|0) - ,00:44:770 (44770|0,45000|2) - ,00:48:462 (48462|0,48693|3) - It should be a LN like these 00:41:077 (41077|0,41308|3) - , 00:50:308 (50308|3,50539|0) - ok

01:21:923 (81923|1) - 01:23:539 (83539|2,83770|1) - 01:25:616 (85616|0) - I think these notes are unnecesary since the drum sounds are missing here I kinda kept them for the fact either i wanted it to be a note from the start regardless of the drum sound or i made the second one to be consistent with it so it wouldn't be off, in terms of 1 LN containing a note but the other doesn't will kinda give a weird feeling with no familiarities

02:19:270 (139270|0) - same as 00:24:808 (24808|0) yeah, did that-
Soul Evans

DustMoon wrote:

YaHao wrote:

Update Soul Evans' diff
woc,这么快还以为Soul会鸽。。。
送摸
1|2|3|4|
Soul's Hyper
00:09:577 - advice:https://puu.sh/vBXGc/1b7f1f1035.jpgThis actually doesn't look good, lol but either way i don't want to add LN here since i wanted it to be just notes/chords for the intro
00:24:808 (24808|0) - 02:19:270 (139270|0) - deleteNo?that is an important sound which is part of the LNs, you see instead of telling me to remove it you should have said turn it into an LN , which i did when wonki pointed it out to me
00:46:616 (46616|3,46673|2,46731|1,46789|0) - 02:41:077 (161077|3,161135|2,161193|1,161250|0) - checkWhat does that mean?
if you are saying that why it's the same pattern, i was aiming for good pitch relevance for both of them which is why i repeated it

01:01:500 (61500|0,61616|1,61731|3) - why you want to catch them ,these sound are soft,advice:https://puu.sh/vBXPG/a6e6a66bcd.jpgwell, they are soft, but you have to consider that they are still distinct sounds that have snaps of 1/2, hence they are mappable, and i thought making them notes would make it more fun instead of regular LNs for it, which what you pointed out to be pretty bland
01:27:462 - add single note to 3Well, i already mapped it to the LN there, adding a note because of the previous one? well the previous one was turned into a regular note rather than a note for the LN just like that, and if i added a note to 3 it would stack with the chord above, which i would like to avoid
01:38:308 (98308|2,98308|3,98770|1,98770|0) - maybe have some emptyDo you mean filling the empty or removing the LN/chord? if it's the former then i can't do that, it would trip the player up and i think having an LN for the sound i mapped it in should be enough
01:42:231 (102231|1) - delete,idk you your LN start this time linewell, you see here, if you listen closely the voice reoccurs twice, which is why i added a second LN here
02:55:846 (175846|3,175846|1,175846|0) - soft drum,i think put it notes on the (1,2) its okeyi really want to keep it on the outer columns,
and it's soft drum a bit yeah, but still have a sound that could work as a chord

02:57:750 - add if you want to catch these sound ,maybe you should catch this sound ,and change pattern to (1,2,3,4)I can't really here any other sound other than the 1/4 that i mapped, there is one below the LN on the blue tick but since the LN is following different sound, i started it at the white tick after the LN, but after that, i can't hear
03:02:885 - advice:[url]https://puu.sh/vBYaA/b1081ab669.jpgThat looks awful, and i'm pretty sure the other notes you did were ghost notes since i couldn't hear anything around it, and for what it's worth this is a 2.5* diff, it isn't meant to be that hard for using the 1/4 too much, which is why i mapped it to LN and also made it Pitch relevant. [/url]
Good luck! :)
I appreciate the effort, and don't feel bad for my reply, just try and you'll eventually be better at modding, also try to give proper reasoning for your change, instead of telling the mapper to just ''change'' you have to try and tell the mapper why they should change and suggest an alternative explaining why you think they would be better, so good luck, i look forward for the time you do that!
Oscyy
yay finally more great kobaryo song :D
mod without requested for more star priority and kudosu obviously

DISCLAIMER

  1. I really like hard song, i just dont like its too underrated (map is too hard for that star rating) so most of the time i will nerfing that map (too much unnecessary minijack, bad ln, etc)
  2. since I only play harder song, i will only check harder diff (above 4*, special req exception)
  3. I am new from mapping so i guess i dont always do a good mod
  4. I always assuming the map I'll mod is going to rank so I'll do my best
  5. As always, no kudosu if this mod is pointless
Speedcore
00:04:385 (4385|2) - i dont think it should be ln here, instead 00:03:808 (3808|0) - you can put 1/2 ln here
00:10:385 (10385|0,10500|2,10616|3) - (optional) you can put another 1/2 ln here like 00:10:846 (10846|0,10962|3) -
00:31:385 (31385|0) - (not recommended optional) idk is this rankable but can you change all these notes into 1/2 ln?
00:31:385 (31385|0) - is it just my ear or this is ghost?
00:26:885 (26885|2) - i think you should delete this because its sounds like the one in 00:27:116 -
check all part that sounds like last 2 of ^
00:33:231 (33231|2) - what is this for?
00:35:077 (35077|1) - ^
and every first beat on that part
00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - 1 note is enough
00:42:808 (42808|1,42808|0) - ^
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2,43327|1) - i prefer trill because all of them is strong kicks
00:46:616 (46616|3,46616|0,46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - ^
00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - delete and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - ctrl+h for playability
00:54:231 (54231|2) - double for kick
00:54:462 (54462|2,54462|3) - i think you better change these into usual note since that part sounds "add sounds" than " change chord"
01:12:000 (72000|0,72000|1) - single note and 01:12:116 (72116|2,72116|3) - triple (consistency)
01:14:539 (74539|2,74539|1) - i think this is single
01:14:770 (74770|1,74770|0,75231|2,75693|3) - i think its better if you make it releasing ln than adding ln for slowdown sound, or else you can add slowdown sv
01:20:308 - i think you should follow the kicks since its much louder, and these kicks sounds always the same to me, i think you should make it always-double-pattern rather than triple-single-pattern or else you can change those singles into doubles, but this is too overkill
01:21:923 (81923|0,81923|3) - probably delete one of them or both since there are no kick
01:23:539 (83539|3,83539|0,83539|1) - ^
01:23:770 (83770|1,83770|0,83770|3) - ^
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87693|0,87750|1,87808|2,87808|3) - trill for good feeling to the kick
01:28:270 - add 1/8 stairs here (shredder) 01:28:385 (88385|2,88385|3,88443|1,88500|0,88500|3,88500|2) - trill 01:28:500 - another 1/8 stairs https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8240116
repeat for other part
01:36:693 (96693|3,96693|0,96808|2,96808|1) - single note or ln is better
01:39:808 (99808|0,99808|1,99866|3) - 1/8 stair (shredder)
01:40:039 - uhh, there are shredder again but hard to explain so osu.ppy.sh/ss/8240137
01:40:385 (100385|3,100385|2,100500|2,100500|1) - change both to single ln
01:41:077 - until 01:41:423 - should be 1/8
01:41:770 (101770|0,101798|1,101827|2,101856|3,101885|0,101914|1,101943|2,101971|3) - you can replace them to double ln for diversion, but nvm
01:43:270 (103270|1) - 1/6 too early
01:50:693 (110693|1) - ^
song repeats
outro part A-OK

Extra
00:18:231 (18231|3,18231|1,18346|3,18346|1) - unecessary minijack
00:40:385 (40385|3,40500|0,40731|2,40846|0) - this is unecessary as well
00:43:154 (43154|1,43212|0,43270|3,43327|2,43385|3,43385|1,43385|0) - i think short trills is ok in extra diff
00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|2,48750|1,48808|3,48808|0,48866|2) - ^
00:50:366 (50366|2,50423|0,50423|3,50481|1,50539|2,50539|3) - ^
00:50:596 (50596|0,50654|1,50712|2) - make them doubles, but different pattern with ^
01:25:846 - exactly no long jumptrill on this diff, you can make it jumpstream then short trill instead
01:27:750 (87750|2,87808|1) - short trill, apply to other pattern
01:39:866 (99866|1,100096|1) - delete, hand balance
01:41:770 (101770|1,101827|0,101885|2,101943|1,102000|0) - you can replace them to ln in first col
01:43:270 (103270|3) - 1/6 early
01:49:846 - replace this boring pattern with earlier pattern, you can add doubles for kicks too but, not just kicks its boring
song repeats
02:57:808 (177808|2,177866|2) - rip ss, replace

insane
00:40:731 (40731|0) - double
00:46:616 (46616|1,46616|0,46731|2,46731|3) - make 1/4 stair
00:51:577 (51577|1,51577|0,51693|2,51693|3) - change to double ln
00:51:923 (51923|3,51923|2,52039|2,52039|3) - 1/4 stair
00:52:385 (52385|0,52385|1,52500|1,52500|0) - ^
00:52:731 (52731|2,52731|3) - ctrl+h, 00:52:789 - add note col 3
00:52:962 - ^
01:12:116 (72116|0) - double
01:12:808 (72808|2) - ^
01:21:923 (81923|0,81923|1) - single
01:25:846 - change to 1/4 stairs
01:27:750 - add note
01:28:443 - ^
01:28:789 - ^
01:29:135 - ^
01:29:596 - ^
01:30:289 - ^
01:30:635 - ^
01:43:270 (103270|2) - 1/6 early
song repeats

i think thats all, fun song, fun map
Wonki

OscarRickyH02 wrote:

yay finally more great kobaryo song :D

Extra
00:18:231 (18231|3,18231|1,18346|3,18346|1) - unecessary minijack
00:40:385 (40385|3,40500|0,40731|2,40846|0) - this is unecessary as well
00:43:154 (43154|1,43212|0,43270|3,43327|2,43385|3,43385|1,43385|0) - i think short trills is ok in extra diff
00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|2,48750|1,48808|3,48808|0,48866|2) - ^
00:50:366 (50366|2,50423|0,50423|3,50481|1,50539|2,50539|3) - ^
00:50:596 (50596|0,50654|1,50712|2) - make them doubles, but different pattern with ^
01:25:846 - exactly no long jumptrill on this diff, you can make it jumpstream then short trill instead
01:27:750 (87750|2,87808|1) - short trill, apply to other pattern
01:39:866 (99866|1,100096|1) - delete, hand balance
01:41:770 (101770|1,101827|0,101885|2,101943|1,102000|0) - you can replace them to ln in first col
01:43:270 (103270|3) - 1/6 early
01:49:846 - replace this boring pattern with earlier pattern, you can add doubles for kicks too but, not just kicks its boring
song repeats
02:57:808 (177808|2,177866|2) - rip ss, replace


i think thats all, fun song, fun map
Thanks some are fixed
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

OscarRickyH02 wrote:

yay finally more great kobaryo song :D
mod without requested for more star priority and kudosu obviously

DISCLAIMER

  1. I really like hard song, i just dont like its too underrated (map is too hard for that star rating) so most of the time i will nerfing that map (too much unnecessary minijack, bad ln, etc)
  2. since I only play harder song, i will only check harder diff (above 4*, special req exception)
  3. I am new from mapping so i guess i dont always do a good mod
  4. I always assuming the map I'll mod is going to rank so I'll do my best
  5. As always, no kudosu if this mod is pointless
Speedcore
00:04:385 (4385|2) - i dont think it should be ln here, instead 00:03:808 (3808|0) - you can put 1/2 ln here
00:10:385 (10385|0,10500|2,10616|3) - (optional) you can put another 1/2 ln here like 00:10:846 (10846|0,10962|3) -
00:31:385 (31385|0) - (not recommended optional) idk is this rankable but can you change all these notes into 1/2 ln? LN is for the main sound
00:31:385 (31385|0) - is it just my ear or this is ghost? hihat
00:26:885 (26885|2) - i think you should delete this because its sounds like the one in 00:27:116 -
check all part that sounds like last 2 of ^ different sound
00:33:231 (33231|2) - what is this for?
00:35:077 (35077|1) - ^ hihat just like i did in the previous part
and every first beat on that part
00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - 1 note is enough double to emphasize the main sound
00:42:808 (42808|1,42808|0) - ^
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2,43327|1) - i prefer trill because all of them is strong kicks and i prefer single stair
00:46:616 (46616|3,46616|0,46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - ^
00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - delete and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - ctrl+h for playability stupid pp pattern no
00:54:231 (54231|2) - double for kick
00:54:462 (54462|2,54462|3) - i think you better change these into usual note since that part sounds "add sounds" than " change chord"
01:12:000 (72000|0,72000|1) - single note and 01:12:116 (72116|2,72116|3) - triple (consistency)
01:14:539 (74539|2,74539|1) - i think this is single
01:14:770 (74770|1,74770|0,75231|2,75693|3) - i think its better if you make it releasing ln than adding ln for slowdown sound, or else you can add slowdown sv
01:20:308 - i think you should follow the kicks since its much louder, and these kicks sounds always the same to me, i think you should make it always-double-pattern rather than triple-single-pattern or else you can change those singles into doubles, but this is too overkill
01:21:923 (81923|0,81923|3) - probably delete one of them or both since there are no kick
01:23:539 (83539|3,83539|0,83539|1) - ^
01:23:770 (83770|1,83770|0,83770|3) - ^
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87693|0,87750|1,87808|2,87808|3) - trill for good feeling to the kick
01:28:270 - add 1/8 stairs here (shredder) 01:28:385 (88385|2,88385|3,88443|1,88500|0,88500|3,88500|2) - trill 01:28:500 - another 1/8 stairs https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8240116
repeat for other part
01:36:693 (96693|3,96693|0,96808|2,96808|1) - single note or ln is better
01:39:808 (99808|0,99808|1,99866|3) - 1/8 stair (shredder)
01:40:039 - uhh, there are shredder again but hard to explain so osu.ppy.sh/ss/8240137
01:40:385 (100385|3,100385|2,100500|2,100500|1) - change both to single ln
01:41:077 - until 01:41:423 - should be 1/8
01:41:770 (101770|0,101798|1,101827|2,101856|3,101885|0,101914|1,101943|2,101971|3) - you can replace them to double ln for diversion, but nvm
01:43:270 (103270|1) - 1/6 too early
01:50:693 (110693|1) - ^
song repeats
outro part A-OK


insane
00:40:731 (40731|0) - double
00:46:616 (46616|1,46616|0,46731|2,46731|3) - make 1/4 stair
00:51:577 (51577|1,51577|0,51693|2,51693|3) - change to double ln
00:51:923 (51923|3,51923|2,52039|2,52039|3) - 1/4 stair
00:52:385 (52385|0,52385|1,52500|1,52500|0) - ^
00:52:731 (52731|2,52731|3) - ctrl+h, 00:52:789 - add note col 3
00:52:962 - ^
01:12:116 (72116|0) - double
01:12:808 (72808|2) - ^
01:21:923 (81923|0,81923|1) - single
01:25:846 - change to 1/4 stairs
01:27:750 - add note
01:28:443 - ^
01:28:789 - ^
01:29:135 - ^
01:29:596 - ^
01:30:289 - ^
01:30:635 - ^
01:43:270 (103270|2) - 1/6 early
song repeats

i think thats all, fun song, fun map
Umo-
love this map
Take my star! ☆=(ゝω・)
DustMoon
Graveyard
QAQ
Aruel
2017-09-03 17:31 YaHao: dotabata when ;w;
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: now
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: now
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: noe
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: now
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: hahahahaha
2017-09-03 17:34 Fresh Chicken: nice timing
2017-09-03 17:35 Fresh Chicken: can u IRC now?
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1232538 Nanahira - Youkoso JAPARI PARK e]
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: lalala
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: lalala
2017-09-03 17:35 Fresh Chicken: oh no
2017-09-03 17:35 Fresh Chicken: otaku
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: Welcome to Japari Park
2017-09-03 17:35 YaHao: ok lets irc
2017-09-03 17:37 Fresh Chicken: yaho
2017-09-03 17:37 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214526 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [SPEEDCORE!!]]
2017-09-03 17:37 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214526 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [SPEEDCORE!!]]
2017-09-03 17:38 Fresh Chicken: 00:38:308 - don't need to be triple, there's no sounds like other triples
2017-09-03 17:41 YaHao: ok
2017-09-03 17:42 Fresh Chicken: 01:12:116 - you can triple here o.o
2017-09-03 17:43 Fresh Chicken: 01:27:346 (87346|1,87346|2) - 01:27:289 - is more correct snapping.
2017-09-03 17:43 YaHao: can also hear sound at 01:27:346 -
2017-09-03 17:43 Fresh Chicken: oh ya it is
2017-09-03 17:43 YaHao: move to blue line too cancer
2017-09-03 17:44 Fresh Chicken: 01:31:154 - double I guess, voice sample only parts that you used with SV has all double
2017-09-03 17:44 Fresh Chicken: 01:20:077 - like here
2017-09-03 17:45 YaHao: ok
2017-09-03 17:46 Fresh Chicken: 02:26:308 (146308|1,146308|0,146423|3,146423|2,146539|0,146539|1,146654|3,146654|2) - I can't get this part with this pattern
2017-09-03 17:46 Fresh Chicken: copy paste plzplz
2017-09-03 17:47 YaHao: isnt it same with 00:31:846 -
2017-09-03 17:47 YaHao: double for the main sound
2017-09-03 17:48 Fresh Chicken: then how about pattern like this? 12-34-12-34 is too simple i guess https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9005072
2017-09-03 17:49 YaHao: yea that work
2017-09-03 17:49 YaHao: change both
2017-09-03 17:49 Fresh Chicken: alrighty
2017-09-03 17:49 Fresh Chicken: now insane
2017-09-03 17:49 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214524 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Insane]]
2017-09-03 17:50 YaHao: you insane
2017-09-03 17:50 Fresh Chicken: why
2017-09-03 17:50 Fresh Chicken: ;_;
2017-09-03 17:50 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214524 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Insane]]
2017-09-03 17:51 YaHao: you gonna post mod for ponki's diff or....
2017-09-03 17:51 Fresh Chicken: 00:09:808 - can be double, or is there any intention
2017-09-03 17:51 Fresh Chicken: will irc with wonki I guess
2017-09-03 17:51 Fresh Chicken: Soul for posting
2017-09-03 17:52 YaHao: i think jack already good enough .-.
2017-09-03 17:53 Fresh Chicken: o ok then
2017-09-03 17:54 Fresh Chicken: 00:39:231 - I think you can LN here like speed core diff, nothing affect on playable
2017-09-03 17:55 YaHao: ok
2017-09-03 17:55 Fresh Chicken: 00:46:616 - highly recommend to use 1/4 here
2017-09-03 17:55 YaHao: sure
2017-09-03 17:59 Fresh Chicken: insane done
2017-09-03 17:59 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214523 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Hard]]
2017-09-03 17:59 Fresh Chicken: pretty clean map toh
2017-09-03 18:00 YaHao: ok_hand
2017-09-03 18:02 Fresh Chicken: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1214525 Kobaryo - Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite] [Normal]]
2017-09-03 18:02 Fresh Chicken: damn clean
2017-09-03 18:02 YaHao: ez copy paste
2017-09-03 18:02 Fresh Chicken: lol
2017-09-03 18:04 Fresh Chicken: easy and normal both fine
2017-09-03 18:04 Fresh Chicken: but one thing
2017-09-03 18:04 Fresh Chicken: normal HS is too small toh
2017-09-03 18:05 YaHao: you mean the overall volume or the sample
2017-09-03 18:06 Fresh Chicken: sample
2017-09-03 18:06 Fresh Chicken: maybe 70%
2017-09-03 18:07 YaHao: ok done
2017-09-03 18:07 Fresh Chicken: yaho
2017-09-03 18:07 Fresh Chicken: where's goddamn wonki
2017-09-03 18:08 YaHao: ponki
2017-09-03 18:08 Fresh Chicken: ponyki
2017-09-03 18:08 Fresh Chicken: aniki
Aruel
I'm really sorry for late

[Wonki's Extra]

00:20:423 (20423|1,20539|2,20654|1) - 신스가 더블을 사용하겠다는것을 의도했을터인데 더블이 아닌 이유 서술 부탁,
00:17:770 - 00:21:462 - 마찬가지.

00:52:962 (52962|3,52962|1,53020|2,53020|0,53077|3,53077|1,53193|1,53193|3,53308|1,53308|3) - 밸런스에 있어서 약간의 문제가 되는 패턴, 차라리 00:53:423 (53423|1) - 이것만 4로 옮겨도 충분히 커버가 될거라는 의견

01:43:308 (103308|3) - 는 01:46:962 (106962|0) - 참조

01:49:846 - 01:57:231 - ㅎㅇ
Wonki

Fresh Chicken wrote:

I'm really sorry for late

[Wonki's Extra]

00:20:423 (20423|1,20539|2,20654|1) - 신스가 더블을 사용하겠다는것을 의도했을터인데 더블이 아닌 이유 서술 부탁, // 일부러 쉽게하려고 1놋만넣었음 그렇다고 롱놋을 넣자니 00:23:885 - 여기랑 비교되고 00:20:539 - 여기다 1놋추가하는걸로 쇼부보도록하지
00:17:770 - 00:21:462 - 마찬가지. // 요기는 추가했다

00:52:962 (52962|3,52962|1,53020|2,53020|0,53077|3,53077|1,53193|1,53193|3,53308|1,53308|3) - 밸런스에 있어서 약간의 문제가 되는 패턴, 차라리 00:53:423 (53423|1) - 이것만 4로 옮겨도 충분히 커버가 될거라는 의견 // OK

01:43:308 (103308|3) - 는 01:46:962 (106962|0) - 참조 //ㅇㅇ

01:49:846 - 01:57:231 - ㅎㅇ // ㅎㅇ ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Updated
Aruel
bubbled. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
thank u kfc
Maxus
Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Easy]
00:39:231 (39231|0) - Think it's better to be at col 3 to make a complete stair for more intuitive flow.
01:38:770 - the pattern here is harder than normal diff, is this intentional?
01:57:231 - I think it's better if you add note for finish here, since you usually consistent with it. in that case, put it into col 1 and move 01:57:462 (117462|0) - to col 2.
02:34:962 (154962|3) - Since col 3 is more rarely used, move this note to col 3 will make it more balance.

[Normal]
01:38:770 - Will suggest to make this part more denser like what you did in easy diff.
02:18:346 (138346|2) - better move this to col 1 to make your pattern be more consistent with 00:23:539 (23539|3,23885|3) - , since it seemed your pattern revolving some sort of col 1 / col 4 jack.

[Soul's Hyper]
Disclaimer: Since this song is repeating, if i suggest to fix something and you agree, make sure to fix on the second part as well.

00:05:885 (5885|0,6000|3) - Prefer if you Ctrl+H rotate these notes so it will give more natural flow.
00:09:577 (9577|3,9808|2,9923|1,10039|0) - Try having 3-4-1-2 instead, it will form mini trill which emphasize the consistent drum better.
00:19:846 - Add note for clap here? since you seemed to be consistent with the approach double for clap except this part didn't get it.
00:24:808 (24808|0) - better if you continue the LN...
00:53:193 (53193|1,53308|0,53423|1) - Kinda felt this pattern to be anti-flow. 1-2-1 actually connect the pattern with stair LN at 00:53:654 - more intuitively.
01:40:500 (100500|1) - I now this is still part of long stream, but its actually nice place to give break cause the drum actually suddenly dissapear. and continue the stream with that music "break" doesn't express it properly.
02:04:154 - Same suggestion as 00:09:577 -

[Hard]
02:59:308 - I felt the chord is a bit too much (2 notes + 1 LN) here given the synth emphasis isn't actually that strong especially in hard diff, so i will suggest to reduce one note for each of the chordnote.

[Insane]
01:41:539 - think you can emphasize the burst with LN a bit better by https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120378

[Wonki's Extra]
00:09:346 (9346|1,9462|2) - Better if you switch column here, making jack between 00:09:462 - and 00:09:577 - is better as they are the same drum sound. it'd be more consistent with your overall placement after this too as you sought for more jack there.
00:10:846 - Not sure if col 4 stacks are your intention / not, but if not it's better for you to Ctrl+H between 00:10:846 (10846|3,10962|0,11077|3) -
00:31:616 (31616|1,31731|2,31846|3,31962|2) - Make this 4-3-2-4? it will follow pitch more accurately.
01:43:308 (103308|3) - are you sure this is 1/6? i know what sound you try to follow, i just wanna make sure.

[Speedcore!!]
00:38:308 (38308|0) - Better in col 3 imo, its the same drum that you made jack at 00:39:000 (39000|2,39000|1,39116|2,39116|1) -
01:11:885 - I think this part can be interpreted the pitch more accurately like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120317
01:31:154 - Double note here coz same vocal as 01:30:923 - ?

Nice one, call me back if you already done!
Wonki

Maxus wrote:

Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Wonki's Extra]
00:09:346 (9346|1,9462|2) - Better if you switch column here, making jack between 00:09:462 - and 00:09:577 - is better as they are the same drum sound. it'd be more consistent with your overall placement after this too as you sought for more jack there.
00:10:846 - Not sure if col 4 stacks are your intention / not, but if not it's better for you to Ctrl+H between 00:10:846 (10846|3,10962|0,11077|3) -
00:31:616 (31616|1,31731|2,31846|3,31962|2) - Make this 4-3-2-4? it will follow pitch more accurately.
01:43:308 (103308|3) - are you sure this is 1/6? i know what sound you try to follow, i just wanna make sure. // I think it's 1/8. 01:43:298 (103298|3,103529|3) - ,01:46:991 (106991|0,107221|0) -


Nice one, call me back if you already done!
All fixed
Wonki
About snap

01:43:298 - 01:43:529 - 01:46:991 - 01:47:221 - 01:50:683 - 01:50:914 - 01:54:375 - 01:54:606 -

I think 1/8 is correct
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Maxus wrote:

Sorry i forgot this orz gbf is love

[Easy]
00:39:231 (39231|0) - Think it's better to be at col 3 to make a complete stair for more intuitive flow.
01:38:770 - the pattern here is harder than normal diff, is this intentional?
01:57:231 - I think it's better if you add note for finish here, since you usually consistent with it. in that case, put it into col 1 and move 01:57:462 (117462|0) - to col 2.
02:34:962 (154962|3) - Since col 3 is more rarely used, move this note to col 3 will make it more balance.

[Normal]
01:38:770 - Will suggest to make this part more denser like what you did in easy diff.
02:18:346 (138346|2) - better move this to col 1 to make your pattern be more consistent with 00:23:539 (23539|3,23885|3) - , since it seemed your pattern revolving some sort of col 1 / col 4 jack.


[Hard]
02:59:308 - I felt the chord is a bit too much (2 notes + 1 LN) here given the synth emphasis isn't actually that strong especially in hard diff, so i will suggest to reduce one note for each of the chordnote.

[Insane]
01:41:539 - think you can emphasize the burst with LN a bit better by https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120378


[Speedcore!!]
00:38:308 (38308|0) - Better in col 3 imo, its the same drum that you made jack at 00:39:000 (39000|2,39000|1,39116|2,39116|1) - //jack 1 note is enough imo, unlike the second one has cymbal in it so i use double jacks
01:11:885 - I think this part can be interpreted the pitch more accurately like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9120317 //kinda weird to jack this note 00:38:308 (38308|0) - and i want to keep the overall intensity low since its the clam part of the song, one jack should be fine
01:31:154 - Double note here coz same vocal as 01:30:923 - ?

Nice one, call me back if you already done!
no reply means fix

Wonki wrote:

About snap

01:43:298 - 01:43:529 - 01:46:991 - 01:47:221 - 01:50:683 - 01:50:914 - 01:54:375 - 01:54:606 -

I think 1/8 is correct
about the snap, I will say the correct snap is 1/8, but i will keep 1/2 for my diff
They are not 1/2 for sure (which is the current snap of all my diff), anyone can notice that from editor, but the reason why i'm keeping the "wrong snap" is for the playability, since its only 1/8 earlier, its hard to tell the difference only thru playing.


And yea, updated my and Wonki's diff, thank you for checking
Soul Evans

Maxus wrote:

[Soul's Hyper]
Disclaimer: Since this song is repeating, if i suggest to fix something and you agree, make sure to fix on the second part as well.

00:05:885 (5885|0,6000|3) - Prefer if you Ctrl+H rotate these notes so it will give more natural flow.want to keep this because of the pitch and i want to keep it consistent for the chart
00:09:577 (9577|3,9808|2,9923|1,10039|0) - Try having 3-4-1-2 instead, it will form mini trill which emphasize the consistent drum better.oh that's pretty good of a suggestion you did there, ok
00:19:846 - Add note for clap here? since you seemed to be consistent with the approach double for clap except this part didn't get it. must have missed it
00:24:808 (24808|0) - better if you continue the LN...understandable, although i don't remember doing it, however it's been long since i made this diff
00:53:193 (53193|1,53308|0,53423|1) - Kinda felt this pattern to be anti-flow. 1-2-1 actually connect the pattern with stair LN at 00:53:654 - more intuitively.ok
01:40:500 (100500|1) - I now this is still part of long stream, but its actually nice place to give break cause the drum actually suddenly dissapear. and continue the stream with that music "break" doesn't express it properly.removed it
02:04:154 - Same suggestion as 00:09:577 - did that
Thank you for the mod!

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[Metadata]
Title:Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite]
TitleUnicode:Dotabata Animation [feat. t+pazolite]
Artist:Kobaryo
ArtistUnicode:Kobaryo
Creator:YaHao
Version:Soul's Hyper
Source:
Tags:Candy Speed Pops Wonki Soul Evans
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192,192,173885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,174000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,174000,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,174231,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,174346,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,174462,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,174693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,174808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,174923,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,175154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,175385,128,0,175846:0:0:0:0:
64,192,175846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,175846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,176308,128,2,176539:0:0:0:0:
192,192,176308,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,176539,128,0,176770:0:0:0:0:
192,192,176770,128,0,177000:0:0:0:0:
448,192,177000,128,0,177231:0:0:0:0:
64,192,177231,128,0,177462:0:0:0:0:
320,192,177462,128,0,177693:0:0:0:0:
448,192,177693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,177808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,177866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,177923,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,178154,128,4,178385:0:0:0:0:
192,192,178154,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,192,178385,128,0,178616:0:0:0:0:
192,192,178616,128,0,178846:0:0:0:0:
448,192,178846,128,0,179077:0:0:0:0:
64,192,179077,128,0,179308:0:0:0:0:
448,192,179308,128,0,179423:0:0:0:0:
192,192,179539,128,0,179654:0:0:0:0:
320,192,179770,128,0,179885:0:0:0:0:
448,192,180000,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,180000,128,4,180231:0:0:0:0:
320,192,180231,128,0,180462:0:0:0:0:
192,192,180462,128,0,180693:0:0:0:0:
448,192,180693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,180923,1,2,0:0:0:0:
64,192,180923,128,4,181154:0:0:0:0:
448,192,181154,128,0,181385:0:0:0:0:
192,192,181385,128,0,181616:0:0:0:0:
320,192,181616,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,181846,128,2,182077:0:0:0:0:
448,192,181846,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,182077,128,0,182308:0:0:0:0:
192,192,182308,128,2,182539:0:0:0:0:
64,192,182308,1,4,0:0:0:0:
448,192,182539,128,0,182770:0:0:0:0:
320,192,182770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,182885,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,183000,128,0,183231:0:0:0:0:
448,192,183231,128,0,183462:0:0:0:0:
64,192,183462,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,192,183462,128,0,183923:0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Updated (also fixed few missing HS
Aruel
Rebub, good luck!
Topic Starter
Sandalphon
Thank u again
(fixed the snap in Insane Extra and SPEEDCORE!!
Maxus
everything's now fine, good luck!
Melt3dCheeze
[Speedcore!!]
01:20:308 (80308|3) -
Needs more chord jacks if that makes sense. The song intensity starts to pick up and it needs to be different from the lighter sections of the song, so that might warrant for increased difficulty.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.

01:42:462 (102462|0,102462|3,102462|0,102462|1) -
This section is void, LN + rice would suffice. Yet again being omissive to the music.

Good luck
-mint-
oh yeah and on top of what melted cheese said, some of the layering is weird too
also, if you are going to make a pp map, you cant justify it by making the "easier" patterns uncomfortable, that's not very fair imo
please consider these changes

a box
00:26:770 (26770|1,26770|0,26770|3) - and 00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - should be doubles, theres no reason as to why they should be layered more heavily than 00:25:731 or the same as 00:28:616 (which has a unique sound)
00:31:846 (31846|1,31846|0,31962|3,31962|2,32077|3,32077|2,32193|0,32193|1) - this doesnt really make sense, the layering is fine but the positioning doesnt fit the music, would suggest changing up a few note positions - the fastest way would be to move 00:32:077 (32077|3) - to the second column seeing as the notes in the synth go B - E - G# - B (to allow the notes corresponding to B to be the same columns and E and G# having different columns)
00:33:462 (33462|3,33462|0) - 00:35:308 (35308|2,35308|3) - why not triple?

based on from what i see in the first kiai i assume that cymbal = quad, kick drum = jump or hand when emphasized, seems familiar (galaxy collapse) - 00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - and 00:44:654 (44654|1,44654|2) - and 00:46:500 (46500|2,46500|1) - and 00:42:808 (42808|0,42808|1) - have no kick drum, consider reducing to single
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2) - and 00:46:673 (46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - change to doubles (because you have patterns like 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - that are basically the same sound)

00:48:116 (48116|2,48116|3,48231|3,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48577|2,48693|3,48750|2,48808|3,48866|2,48923|3) - extremely uncomfortable for the right hand. 00:48:231 (48231|0,48231|3,48231|1,48346|3,48346|1,48346|0) - these two chords dont even have the same pitch in the melody, and 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - this would normally be fine (galaxy collapse) but because of the surrounding patterns, it is slightly uncomfortable (unless i'm just bad) - consider switching to regular jumptrill

00:50:077 (50077|3,50077|2,50077|0,50193|2,50193|0,50193|3) - dont even have the same pitch in the melody

00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - remove one of these notes

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0) - why stack here? change; 01:04:500 (64500|3,64616|3) - this one is fine because the mallet perc. (xylophone?) has the same sound

also, there are sounds at 01:02:308 and 01:03:231 etc. throughout the section

01:17:539 (77539|0,77539|3,77539|2) - no reason for this to be triple, change to double
01:19:385 (79385|1,79385|0,79385|3) - ^

01:20:077 (80077|2,80077|1) - the "up" in "shut up" comes a bit before this, just remove these notes

01:20:308 - more chords/doubles (see post above)

01:21:923 (81923|3,81923|2,81923|0) - and 01:23:539 (83539|1,83539|0,83539|3,83770|3,83770|1,83770|0) - no strong kick drum, change to double
note at 01:23:885 not mapped

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - minijack at this speed? no thanks

01:38:770 - the music here is a lot more complicated than a planet shaper jumpstream, consider mapping the sharp speedcore sounds with 1/8 snap

01:42:462 - really boring, consider mapping the other sounds

02:21:231 (141231|1,141231|0,141231|3) - and 02:24:923 (144923|3,144923|1,144923|0) - same problem as before, should be double
02:26:308 (146308|3,146308|2,146423|0,146423|1,146539|1,146539|0,146654|2,146654|3) - same problem as before

for second kiai refer to first kiai mod
02:45:231 - just maintain the jumptrill until the 1/8

02:47:135 (167135|3,167366|3,167596|3) - no sound, delete and 02:47:193 (167193|1,167193|0,167250|2,167250|3,167308|1,167308|0,167654|1,167654|0,167712|2,167712|3,167770|0,167770|1) - Ctrl+H this pattern
02:48:462 (168462|3,168462|2) - should be single (nothing unique about this)
Raveille
A really good example of ghost note mapping in this map is the section Melt3dCheeze pointed out.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.
This is your current pattern at 01:39:693 - to 01:40:385 - :


This is my fixed pattern at the same timestamps:


Listen to the portions at 25% and you can tell the difference.

Another point is that 01:40:500 - should be a single note because it isn't a drum
Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

[Speedcore!!]
01:20:308 (80308|3) -
Needs more chord jacks if that makes sense. The song intensity starts to pick up and it needs to be different from the lighter sections of the song, so that might warrant for increased difficulty. //prefer to keep the current pattern as overall intensity is already high enough

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.//just because i didnt map the 1/8 doesnt mean i'm not listening to the music

01:42:462 (102462|0,102462|3,102462|0,102462|1) -
This section is void, LN + rice would suffice. Yet again being omissive to the music. // idont see how this could be a problem, if you want to do LN pattern then go ahead and do it when you map your own map but i would like to keep my current

Good luck i dont need that

qqqant wrote:

oh yeah and on top of what melted cheese said, some of the layering is weird too
also, if you are going to make a pp map, you cant justify it by making the "easier" patterns uncomfortable, that's not very fair imo
please consider these changes //where you get this idea of me want to do pp map

a box
00:26:770 (26770|1,26770|0,26770|3) - and 00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - should be doubles, theres no reason as to why they should be layered more heavily than 00:25:731 or the same as 00:28:616 (which has a unique sound)
// there is a reason, its the first sound of the main sound as i want to give more impact by using triple
00:31:846 (31846|1,31846|0,31962|3,31962|2,32077|3,32077|2,32193|0,32193|1) - this doesnt really make sense, the layering is fine but the positioning doesnt fit the music, would suggest changing up a few note positions - the fastest way would be to move
//using double jack because i want to build up the intensity as the rhythm goes up. i dont see how moving one note will make a huge different
00:32:077 (32077|3) - to the second column seeing as the notes in the synth go B - E - G# - B (to allow the notes corresponding to B to be the same columns and E and G# having different columns)
00:33:462 (33462|3,33462|0) - 00:35:308 (35308|2,35308|3) - why not triple? // because i decided not to, only the last cymbal is using triple

based on from what i see in the first kiai i assume that cymbal = quad, kick drum = jump or hand when emphasized, seems familiar (galaxy collapse) //wrong in the first place lmao
- 00:40:962 (40962|0,40962|1) - and 00:44:654 (44654|1,44654|2) - and 00:46:500 (46500|2,46500|1) - and 00:42:808 (42808|0,42808|1) - have no kick drum, consider reducing to single //main sound thank you
00:43:212 (43212|3,43270|2) - and 00:46:673 (46673|1,46731|2,46789|3) - change to doubles (because you have patterns like 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - that are basically the same sound) //so have you consider the intensity of each section? the first one is not trills because the intensity is different

00:48:116 (48116|2,48116|3,48231|3,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48577|2,48693|3,48750|2,48808|3,48866|2,48923|3) - extremely uncomfortable for the right hand.// left hand 11notes, right hand 12 notes, what can i say
00:48:231 (48231|0,48231|3,48231|1,48346|3,48346|1,48346|0) - these two chords dont even have the same pitch in the melody,
//using same column because the different pitch at 00:48:346 (48346|1,48346|0,48346|3,48462|3,48462|2,48462|0) - is much more noticeable
and 00:48:693 (48693|3,48693|0,48750|1,48750|2,48808|0,48808|3,48866|1,48866|2,48923|0,48923|3) - this would normally be fine (galaxy collapse) but because of the surrounding patterns, it is slightly uncomfortable (unless i'm just bad) - consider switching to regular jumptrill //so are you saying (12)(34) is the only trill we can do now?

00:50:077 (50077|3,50077|2,50077|0,50193|2,50193|0,50193|3) - dont even have the same pitch in the melody //like my previous explanation

00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - remove one of these notes if you cant give a reason why should i even fix it

00:52:673 (52673|0,52904|0) - there isnt even any sound here. remove these and 00:52:731 (52731|3,52731|2,52789|1,52789|0,52846|2,52846|3) - Ctrl+H this //hihat

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0) - why stack here? change; 01:04:500 (64500|3,64616|3) - this one is fine because the mallet perc. (xylophone?) has the same sound//to show the rhythm is changing

also, there are sounds at 01:02:308 and 01:03:231 etc. throughout the section //because i'm focusing on the main sound (which is the LN) isnt that obvious

01:17:539 (77539|0,77539|3,77539|2) - no reason for this to be triple, change to double
01:19:385 (79385|1,79385|0,79385|3) - ^ first sound of the main sound

01:20:077 (80077|2,80077|1) - the "up" in "shut up" comes a bit before this, just remove these notes "a bit before" you cant even tell the snap, plus its vocal, move it few ms earlier wouldnt effect anything

01:20:308 - more chords/doubles (see post above)

01:21:923 (81923|3,81923|2,81923|0) - and 01:23:539 (83539|1,83539|0,83539|3,83770|3,83770|1,83770|0) - no strong kick drum, change to double //pls stop assuming that i'm using triple for kick drum like i cant tell the difference, i'm using it for the main sound
note at 01:23:885 not mapped //leave this part empty so i can emphasize the cymbal sound 01:24:000 - more

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - minijack at this speed? no thanks//if you cant play doesnt mean other cant. a lots of BPM higher than 250 also used this kinda of jack

01:38:770 - the music here is a lot more complicated than a planet shaper jumpstream, consider mapping the sharp speedcore sounds with 1/8 snap //i cant do 260 jack but i can do 260 jumpstream which mixed with 1/8. Nice logic

01:42:462 - really boring, consider mapping the other sounds //not boring, consider go map your own version of this song

02:21:231 (141231|1,141231|0,141231|3) - and 02:24:923 (144923|3,144923|1,144923|0) - same problem as before, should be double same explantion as before, not gonna fix
02:26:308 (146308|3,146308|2,146423|0,146423|1,146539|1,146539|0,146654|2,146654|3) - same problem as before //^

for second kiai refer to first kiai mod
02:45:231 - just maintain the jumptrill until the 1/8 //why should i, better give a reason next time if you want to convince someone

02:47:135 (167135|3,167366|3,167596|3) - no sound, delete and 02:47:193 (167193|1,167193|0,167250|2,167250|3,167308|1,167308|0,167654|1,167654|0,167712|2,167712|3,167770|0,167770|1) - Ctrl+H this pattern // hihat like my previous explanation
02:48:462 (168462|3,168462|2) - should be single (nothing unique about this) //last sound of the main sound

Raveille wrote:

A really good example of ghost note mapping in this map is the section Melt3dCheeze pointed out.

01:38:770 (98770|3) - to 01:41:366 (101366|3) -
The whole section needs to be remapped, you're not listening to the music. It's not straight 1/4 jumpstream it's a lot more intricate than that. Patterning shouldn't be kept in overlapping rolls, add some trills or something. It's a build up to that section so you're expecting it to be harder.
This is your current pattern at 01:39:693 - to 01:40:385 - :


This is my fixed pattern at the same timestamps:


Listen to the portions at 25% and you can tell the difference.
//i simply just make the 1/8 into 1/4, how is that become a ghost note. If i add notes at 01:40:443 - 01:40:558 - that will be ghost notes

Another point is that 01:40:500 - should be a single note because it isn't a drum //i double it for the main sound. Got rule says that only drum can use double?
"Drum can only be double and Kick drum can only be triple"
and you guys say i'm the one who's doing boring map
And if the SR/PP system is broken, how is that even my fault ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Abraxos
a case against this map:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.


you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things

before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.

i can only hope you wake up from it and actually start taking responsibility for your own map.

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".

edit: i'm not continuing this mod, i don't see a reason to when the mapper is this entrenched in his own victim complexes

speedcore

[PATTERNING]
00:12:693 (12693|3,12808|2) - no attempt at differentiation even though there's bass beats?
00:13:500 (13500|2,13616|0) - similarly, i won't repeat myself

00:19:385 (19385|3,19385|0,19616|3,19616|0) - different pitches?

i'm not sure if you noticed but
00:19:616 (19616|0,19731|1,19846|0,19962|1,20077|0) - 1
00:21:577 (21577|1,21693|0,21808|1,21923|0) - 2
00:23:308 (23308|0,23423|1,23539|0,23654|1,23770|0) - 3
why do all of them center on the same hand?
i would understand if 1 & 3 utilized the same patterning cause the song repeats but 2 is eehh

00:26:193 (26193|0,26308|2,26308|0) - i get what you're trying to do here but sorry it's not doing what you think it does
00:28:039 (28039|0,28154|1,28154|0) - if you take a closer listen the one above is completely different in pitch and tone, yet both are represented in the same column

00:31:962 (31962|3,31962|2,32077|2,32077|3) - are they the same pitch? if not why are they in the same column then $$

00:32:539 (32539|2,32539|1,32770|0,32770|3) - funnily enough, these are the same pitches - yet they lack the representation as shown above
you copy pasted didn't you

reference $$ and %% for this point
00:34:385 (34385|2,34385|1,34616|3,34616|0) - you hear those wobs in the song? yeah you could've used those to your advantage by differentiating your doubles here but alas $$ and this are the same so nope this whole section has completely no nuance. add on %% and i think you should be able to see why people are complaining about how plain this map is

00:50:077 (50077|0,50193|0,50308|0,50423|0) - this is horrendous to play as a starting burst
00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - this one is pretty bad, 260 jumptrills and then a minijack? it's not that there's anything wrong layering-wise, i just take issue with how sudden this one is, which is kinda the music's fault but then again it's not like you didn't have the freedom to make it less awkward

let's talk patterning now

00:50:308 (50308|1,50308|0,50366|2,50366|3,50423|0,50423|1,50481|3,50481|2) - i'm pretty darn sure this is a different bass beat than
00:50:539 (50539|0,50539|1,50596|2,50596|3,50654|1,50654|0,50712|2,50712|3) - so i don't understand why they're all bunched up in this jumptrill

01:08:770 (68770|1,68770|3,69000|1,69000|3) - different pitches, same column

01:11:885 (71885|0,71885|3,72000|2,72000|3) - these are the notes that have the same pitches, yes?
01:12:000 (72000|3,72000|2,72116|2,72116|3) - if yes to above, then why are these then the same columns?

01:16:846 (76846|2,76846|3,77077|2,77077|1,77308|0,77308|1) -
01:18:693 (78693|2,78693|3,78923|0,78923|1,79154|2,79154|3) -
we agree that these are the same pitches of notes, yes?
then why are they patterned differently? fundamentally one has chords layered over each other but one doesn't so your "variety" explanation doesn't hold up cause of how differently they actually play.

01:21:693 (81693|3,81693|0,81693|2,81808|1) - you couldn't keep the jacking up here?
01:22:154 (82154|3,82154|0,82270|1) - here too?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283807 - i dont see why you wouldn't want to keep the difficulty here at least somewhat consistent

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - this has no justification layering-wise so i'm putting it here - why end this part on a jack?

pay attention to which hand all the notes i highlight land on
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87808|2,87808|3) -
01:28:039 (88039|2,88039|3,88154|3,88270|2,88270|3,88385|2,88385|3,88500|3,88500|2) -
01:28:731 (88731|2,88731|3,88846|3,88846|2) -
01:29:077 (89077|2,89077|3,89193|3,89193|2) -
01:29:539 (89539|2,89539|3,89654|3,89654|2) -
01:29:885 (89885|3,90000|3,90116|3) -
01:31:385 (91385|3,91500|2,91500|3,91616|3,91616|2) -
01:31:846 (91846|2,91846|3,91962|3,92077|2,92077|3,92193|2,92193|3) -
01:32:423 (92423|3,92423|2,92539|2,92539|3) -
01:32:770 (92770|3,92770|2,92885|3,92885|2,93000|3) -

can you see anything wrong with how the whole section is layering? do you think (at least for the beginning of the section) the section is a bit heavy on the right?
and before you bring up the "this section is right then left" 01:29:539 - and 01:30:231 - disqualifies it
not that it has any merit to begin with, why would you want to make the section alternatingly right-left biased

this song is horrible to chart, 01:27:693 - i perfectly understand how you didn't want to overload this section and it's really not that much your fault than it is the song (kobaryo is generally pretty meh anyway)

01:30:923 (90923|0,90923|3,91154|0,91154|3) - could've emphasized these more

again,
01:35:193 (95193|3,95193|2,95308|0,95308|1,95423|3,95423|2) -
01:37:039 (97039|3,97039|2,97154|1,97154|0,97270|2,97270|1) -
same beats but different representation

01:36:462 (96462|1,96462|0,96577|2,96577|3) - i don't get why the bass beats don't get the jack but 01:36:577 (96577|2,96577|3,96693|3,96693|0) - the bass-woob ones do, it just misplaces your emphasis on the bass here and makes everything seem messy and convoluted

01:37:500 (97500|1,97500|0,97616|1,97616|0,97731|0) - i don't understand this one




[LAYERING]
complete mess

00:17:193 - there's a bass beat here
00:19:270 - hihat

00:20:885 - bass beat, don't skimp on the double just because it's after muh triple there's still emphasis there

00:26:423 - 00:30:116 - hihat

00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - why are these notes emphasized to such an extreme? i don't hear any crashes

00:37:154 - not sure why you ignored the 1/4s here, it's not like you couldn't have done a normal 1/4 stream just for this part because hey there's actually differentiation in this song that you can use to make your map less copy pasted maybe %%
00:37:962 (37962|2,38077|3,38077|0,38193|1) - same as above, you could've done some sort of jack progression but nope nothing %%

00:51:000 (51000|0,51116|0,51231|0) - quirky layering
00:51:000 (51000|2,51000|0,51000|3,51231|2,51231|0,51231|3) - because these are the same triples - why are they the same

let's talk hypocrisy

00:52:212 (52212|3,52327|0) - these can very readily be argued as ghost notes, but for the sake of patterning and my argument let's say these are allowed
then 00:53:135 - 00:53:250 - 00:53:366 - are all inconsistent and fucked by that because they all have that same "note echo"
not only that, 00:52:616 - the patterning itself becomes really right-heavy
in summary, i don't see why you shouldn't remove those "note echo" notes because they're a) messing up the patterning and b) structurally inconsistent

00:53:770 - to 00:54:462 - there are 1/4 snares here you skipped over

01:02:308 - this snare is so blatantly missed
even if you make the argument "hey i'm only following the synths" it just seems lazy to me that you could not have tried to incorporate them into your patterning somehow? because they're part of the song you're trying to chart here and shouldn't we as charters be striving to represent the song as well as possible?

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0,68308|1) - either
a) you make them not stack because they're not the same pitches or
b) 01:08:193 - you make this a double

01:10:962 - snare
before you argue that you're mostly following the synths here 01:09:923 (69923|0) - 01:11:770 (71770|1) - you might want to consider that these notes lead players into thinking that percussion is actually being followed too. if you so want to make it such that you don't have to place a note at 01:10:962 - then you better make sure that the synth sections are actually distinct from each other in this section

01:16:154 - a bit weird how there's no notes here just LN releases

01:23:539 - you can most definitely have LNs here
01:21:923 - 01:23:770 - these are the same wubs actually
01:25:385 - NOW this one is inexcusable because there's no wub sound anywhere; besides the fact that this shows some measurable form of incompetency in basic layering understanding i think it shows that you're copy-pasting too

01:25:616 - wub here btw but it's fine if you ignore this one

01:25:846 - i guess you hands are bound layering-wise but i still wouldn't regard this as optimal, you could've very well done a jumpstream which emphasizes more on the synths in the music
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283841 - something like this might even work fine, even though it's a bit crude as of now

01:35:885 (95885|1,95885|0,95885|3,96116|0,96116|1,96116|3) - same triple but different pitch?
01:35:885 (95885|3,96000|3,96116|3) - it's also why you get these things

01:42:000 - not sure why this is doubled really, there's no strong sound except for a yawn which seems pretty soft to me
Mipha-
Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you. Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind.

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
Raveille

RemFangirl wrote:

Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you. Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind.

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
My additional 2 cents is how can you be this unprofessional in replying to mods that aren't even that aggressive. Modders are there because they want to help make the map better and address issues that players have brought up too but if this is the way you want to handle things then we should let the QAT handle this instead.
-mint-
wanting to make a pp map is basically implied in your p//s jumpstream section to which what is mapped in that section is completely different to what is in the song.

also, just wanted to say something about the difficulty name... it's even worse than naming your diff "POP MUSIC!!" in a kpop song, as evening put it

Topic Starter
Sandalphon

Abraxos wrote:

a case against this map:


how completely disgusting of you to say such a thing to someone who's trying to help.
I dont need "luck" to rank my map, any thing wrong with that?

you're ignoring his point about the patterns neglecting the song as it is; if you believe that your current pattern is fine then stand up to the point and make a case for yourself instead of asking, again, someone who's trying to help you improve your map to "make a map themselves to their liking". i'm sorry but we all share the ranked section so whether you like it or not you will have to stand up for yourself and take responsibility for your own things
His think his pattern is better and I think mine is better, just different mapping choice between different mapper, why should i explain more. If you want more explanation, "i think my pattern fits the music more" simple as that. As you said we all share the ranked section, then people should try to accept different mapping idea instead of focusing someone to accept their mod

before you argue that "you're the one who's being attacked here" stop yourself for a minute and think whether or not these people care enough about you to attack you or care about the quality of the rank section
its the wording, using words like "your map is a mess" "should remap this whole section", and still call it a help? no thank you


i think this shows not only me but everyone else how victimized you believe you are. of all the things and people and systems in the world to blame and you never thought to take a look at yourself and what you've actually done.
I would like to know what you mean by "what i've done".

i can only hope you wake up from it and actually start taking responsibility for your own map.

i apologize if this comes off as aggressive but i do not like it and will never stand for it when people shirk themselves in a corner when criticism arrives and point to the "oppressor" and scream how they're being "unreasonably being attacked".
err... pls dont try to guess my thought here

edit: i'm not continuing this mod, i don't see a reason to when the mapper is this entrenched in his own victim complexes

speedcore

[PATTERNING]
00:12:693 (12693|3,12808|2) - no attempt at differentiation even though there's bass beats?
00:13:500 (13500|2,13616|0) - similarly, i won't repeat myself

00:19:385 (19385|3,19385|0,19616|3,19616|0) - different pitches?

i'm not sure if you noticed but
00:19:616 (19616|0,19731|1,19846|0,19962|1,20077|0) - 1
00:21:577 (21577|1,21693|0,21808|1,21923|0) - 2
00:23:308 (23308|0,23423|1,23539|0,23654|1,23770|0) - 3
why do all of them center on the same hand?
i would understand if 1 & 3 utilized the same patterning cause the song repeats but 2 is eehh

00:26:193 (26193|0,26308|2,26308|0) - i get what you're trying to do here but sorry it's not doing what you think it does
00:28:039 (28039|0,28154|1,28154|0) - if you take a closer listen the one above is completely different in pitch and tone, yet both are represented in the same column

00:31:962 (31962|3,31962|2,32077|2,32077|3) - are they the same pitch? if not why are they in the same column then $$

00:32:539 (32539|2,32539|1,32770|0,32770|3) - funnily enough, these are the same pitches - yet they lack the representation as shown above
you copy pasted didn't you

reference $$ and %% for this point
00:34:385 (34385|2,34385|1,34616|3,34616|0) - you hear those wobs in the song? yeah you could've used those to your advantage by differentiating your doubles here but alas $$ and this are the same so nope this whole section has completely no nuance. add on %% and i think you should be able to see why people are complaining about how plain this map is

00:50:077 (50077|0,50193|0,50308|0,50423|0) - this is horrendous to play as a starting burst
00:50:712 (50712|3,50770|3) - this one is pretty bad, 260 jumptrills and then a minijack? it's not that there's anything wrong layering-wise, i just take issue with how sudden this one is, which is kinda the music's fault but then again it's not like you didn't have the freedom to make it less awkward

let's talk patterning now

00:50:308 (50308|1,50308|0,50366|2,50366|3,50423|0,50423|1,50481|3,50481|2) - i'm pretty darn sure this is a different bass beat than
00:50:539 (50539|0,50539|1,50596|2,50596|3,50654|1,50654|0,50712|2,50712|3) - so i don't understand why they're all bunched up in this jumptrill

01:08:770 (68770|1,68770|3,69000|1,69000|3) - different pitches, same column

01:11:885 (71885|0,71885|3,72000|2,72000|3) - these are the notes that have the same pitches, yes?
01:12:000 (72000|3,72000|2,72116|2,72116|3) - if yes to above, then why are these then the same columns?

01:16:846 (76846|2,76846|3,77077|2,77077|1,77308|0,77308|1) -
01:18:693 (78693|2,78693|3,78923|0,78923|1,79154|2,79154|3) -
we agree that these are the same pitches of notes, yes?
then why are they patterned differently?

01:21:693 (81693|3,81693|0,81693|2,81808|1) - you couldn't keep the jacking up here?
01:22:154 (82154|3,82154|0,82270|1) - here too?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283807 - i dont see why you wouldn't want to keep the difficulty here at least somewhat consistent

01:27:173 (87173|0,87231|0) - this has no justification layering-wise so i'm putting it here - why end this part on a jack?

pay attention to which hand all the notes i highlight land on
01:27:693 (87693|3,87693|2,87808|2,87808|3) -
01:28:039 (88039|2,88039|3,88154|3,88270|2,88270|3,88385|2,88385|3,88500|3,88500|2) -
01:28:731 (88731|2,88731|3,88846|3,88846|2) -
01:29:077 (89077|2,89077|3,89193|3,89193|2) -
01:29:539 (89539|2,89539|3,89654|3,89654|2) -
01:29:885 (89885|3,90000|3,90116|3) -
01:31:385 (91385|3,91500|2,91500|3,91616|3,91616|2) -
01:31:846 (91846|2,91846|3,91962|3,92077|2,92077|3,92193|2,92193|3) -
01:32:423 (92423|3,92423|2,92539|2,92539|3) -
01:32:770 (92770|3,92770|2,92885|3,92885|2,93000|3) -

can you see anything wrong with how the whole section is layering? do you think (at least for the beginning of the section) the section is a bit heavy on the right?
and before you bring up the "this section is right then left" 01:29:539 - and 01:30:231 - disqualifies it
not that it has any merit to begin with, why would you want to make the section alternatingly right-left biased

this song is horrible to chart, 01:27:693 - i perfectly understand how you didn't want to overload this section and it's really not that much your fault than it is the song (kobaryo is generally pretty meh anyway)

01:30:923 (90923|0,90923|3,91154|0,91154|3) - could've emphasized these more

again,
01:35:193 (95193|3,95193|2,95308|0,95308|1,95423|3,95423|2) -
01:37:039 (97039|3,97039|2,97154|1,97154|0,97270|2,97270|1) -
same beats but different representation

01:36:462 (96462|1,96462|0,96577|2,96577|3) - i don't get why the bass beats don't get the jack but 01:36:577 (96577|2,96577|3,96693|3,96693|0) - the bass-woob ones do, it just misplaces your emphasis on the bass here and makes everything seem messy and convoluted

01:37:500 (97500|1,97500|0,97616|1,97616|0,97731|0) - i don't understand this one




[LAYERING]
complete mess

00:17:193 - there's a bass beat here
00:19:270 - hihat

00:20:885 - bass beat, don't skimp on the double just because it's after muh triple there's still emphasis there

00:26:423 - 00:30:116 - hihat

00:30:462 (30462|1,30462|0,30462|3) - why are these notes emphasized to such an extreme? i don't hear any crashes

00:37:154 - not sure why you ignored the 1/4s here, it's not like you couldn't have done a normal 1/4 stream just for this part because hey there's actually differentiation in this song that you can use to make your map less copy pasted maybe %%
00:37:962 (37962|2,38077|3,38077|0,38193|1) - same as above, you could've done some sort of jack progression but nope nothing %%

00:51:000 (51000|0,51116|0,51231|0) - quirky layering
00:51:000 (51000|2,51000|0,51000|3,51231|2,51231|0,51231|3) - because these are the same triples - why are they the same

let's talk hypocrisy

00:52:212 (52212|3,52327|0) - these can very readily be argued as ghost notes, but for the sake of patterning and my argument let's say these are allowed
then 00:53:135 - 00:53:250 - 00:53:366 - are all inconsistent and fucked by that because they all have that same "note echo"
not only that, 00:52:616 - the patterning itself becomes really right-heavy
in summary, i don't see why you shouldn't remove those "note echo" notes because they're a) messing up the patterning and b) structurally inconsistent

00:53:770 - to 00:54:462 - there are 1/4 snares here you skipped over

01:02:308 - this snare is so blatantly missed
even if you make the argument "hey i'm only following the synths" it just seems lazy to me that you could not have tried to incorporate them into your patterning somehow? because they're part of the song you're trying to chart here and shouldn't we as charters be striving to represent the song as well as possible?

01:08:193 (68193|0,68308|0,68308|1) - either
a) you make them not stack because they're not the same pitches or
b) 01:08:193 - you make this a double

01:10:962 - snare
before you argue that you're mostly following the synths here 01:09:923 (69923|0) - 01:11:770 (71770|1) - you might want to consider that these notes lead players into thinking that percussion is actually being followed too. if you so want to make it such that you don't have to place a note at 01:10:962 - then you better make sure that the synth sections are actually distinct from each other in this section

01:16:154 - a bit weird how there's no notes here just LN releases

01:23:539 - you can most definitely have LNs here
01:21:923 - 01:23:770 - these are the same wubs actually
01:25:385 - NOW this one is inexcusable because there's no wub sound anywhere; besides the fact that this shows some measurable form of incompetency in basic layering understanding i think it shows that you're copy-pasting too

01:25:616 - wub here btw but it's fine if you ignore this one

01:25:846 - i guess you hands are bound layering-wise but i still wouldn't regard this as optimal, you could've very well done a jumpstream which emphasizes more on the synths in the music
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9283841 - something like this might even work fine, even though it's a bit crude as of now

01:35:885 (95885|1,95885|0,95885|3,96116|0,96116|1,96116|3) - same triple but different pitch?
01:35:885 (95885|3,96000|3,96116|3) - it's also why you get these things

01:42:000 - not sure why this is doubled really, there's no strong sound except for a yawn which seems pretty soft to me

RemFangirl wrote:

Okay, so I'm actually kinda looking forward to the modding discussion and feel like I'll say a word about this one.
First, I actually played the 2 hardest diffs on this map, and I can completely say this is legit pp giveaway. Given that this map isn't hard to play mainly because of the absurd spamming trills, you're not supposed to do that in the similar fashion to the genre has in this song. Sure, it's a really upbeat speedcore, but that doesn't mean your pattern is justifiable and can go on like "oh, this map has lots of tricky rhythmical structure, probably I should go with the hard stuffs and repetitive things on and on". Do not even try to get this one in a ranked state even with a situation like this.
Not like i'm the one who set the high SR, i map what i think its correct, if you dont agree then you are welcome to point out, but i wouldnt accept things like "because this is easy pp so you should make the pattern structure harder" no
Second and lastly, you are even trying to ignore what the modders will give out better solutions for you.
I reply each mod with my reason, i cant agree with the modder =/= i ignore their mod. Think again
Not even anyone could chart maps perfectly in just a single try. Yours are too. since when i say my map is perfect
You're completely impolite to just bang those aside and drop it like it's not even a regular feedback for you. Look all of those ranting feedbacks in Disqus if you do need those reviews. So keep that in mind. if you want people to take your post seriously, then you shouldnt do it on disqus, that section is for meme

In either today or tomorrow, I'll be trying to look over on this stuff and will give out my personal opinion on my revision to this.
Will check the mod tonight
-mint-

YaHao wrote:

if you want people to take your post seriously, then you shouldnt do it on disqus, that section is for meme
some of the posts on there are actually serious though. i must admit, most of them are jokes, but saying this just comes to show that you didnt really read the comments section through.
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