Electroz wrote:

Someone just showed me this map so I might as well point out some quick stuff:

[Easy]

1. 00:02:379 (1) - You know you can't just use the same rhythm over 20 seconds, true the rhythm is repetitive but you need to have some rhythm variations so gameplay-wise won't be too boring.
   
   Alright fixed
   
2. 00:31:579 (2,3) - 00:36:379 (2,3) - Using reverse sliders with different number of repeats is not really predictable.
   
   Yeah I kind of guessed that :v I'll fix it along with the other 1/2s
   
3. If this is supposed to be Easy then 1/2 rhythms(aka objects on red ticks) should not be mapped so frequently, objects shouldn't be denser than 1/1 rhythms so you need to come up with some rhythm that can simplify the main melody rather than mapping every single beat of them.

[Normal]

1. 00:13:179 (1,1) - Aren't these sliders supposed to be straight ones like what you did in other measures?
   
   Yeah fixed. Originally I had a spinner there and didn't go through the map thoroughly when I changed it :c
   
2. Personally I would NC the intro part on every 2 or 4 downbeats, the current ones look like a spam but personal preference I guess
   
   1. 00:20:379 (3) - Missing NC? According to how you NC stuff on every downbeats.
   Changed to every 4 downbeats
   
3. 00:28:580 (4) - 00:42:979 (4) - The main melody is there so if you're following only that sound then these should be removed.

Fixed

I can give you more detailed stuff but I'm in a rush atm so
poke me up in game if you have any questions or need further explanation on this
good luck~

DilPil111 wrote:

Hello there! Her is your mod from my queue (p/5814470#p5814470)

Easy

00:21:579 (1) - Sliders going this fast is too hard for an Easy difficulty, try something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7306134
00:31:179 (1,2,3) - Way too hard for an Easy! This would be much easier: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7306157
You get the idea, those patterns need changing.

Fixed that in the last mod :3

Normal

00:03:580 (1) - Slider should be curved to reflect the bend in the note it is reflecting.
00:05:980 (1) - Opposite thing as the above

Fixed

00:21:580 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Too hard for a Normal, try using the patterns you used in the Easy difficulty in this difficulty

I'll change it if more people comment on it

00:28:580 (4) - Why overmap a Normal?

There's a beat there, it wasn't overmapped :v fixed in a different mod too

Hard

00:05:579 (2) - Move this back a few squares as it is too spaced out

I think it's find atm. DS increases alil bit every 3 white ticks up until that.

Other than that, the hitsounding really needs to be worked on!

Yeahhhhhhhh I have no idea how to hitsound this properly qq

1. 'instrumental' in tags?

1. first of all, an offer for some big changes:
   
   1. 00:02:379 - Not really fun to see the same slider-circle pattern for 19 seconds of the map (which is almost 40% of it). Since there 00:03:579 (3,5) - guitar makes a slide, you can replace 00:02:379 (1) - and 00:05:979 (7) - for 2 circles each. It represents every type of guitar picking, and the most important - more diversely and fun to play
   2. ...and yeah, you should save this one 00:11:979 (1) - because it seems cool with the arising sound
      
2. Compare spacing 00:24:779 (4,1) - and 00:29:579 (4,1) -
3. 00:25:179 (1,2,1) - 00:29:979 (1,2,1) -
4. 00:31:979 (3,4) - guitar makes a slider, so I feel like this could be a slider, and these 00:31:179 (1,2) - 4 circles
5. 00:50:379 - 00:55:179 - could be one more repeat of the riff, cuz still 100% volume
6. Overall, using DS for melodies in Hard is not very cool ( 00:38:379 (1,2,3,4) and basically everywhere) especially when some sounds are much more stronger than others. You're mapping this diff like "advanced normal", but Hard is something else... (imo, at least)

1. 00:45:580 (1,1) - unnecessary overlap, there's enough of room to work with

Dammond wrote:

Hey!
Black Vultures Clan Modding Queue request.
Nice to see somethig ABMish mapped, really like it

Thanks I've been thinking about doing Death and the Maiden or something by Skyforest too

<another comment about boring and repetitive things OK nvm You've read it a hundred times>

Same

1. 'instrumental' in tags?

Fixed

[Hard]

1. first of all, an offer for some big changes:
   
   1. 00:02:379 - Not really fun to see the same slider-circle pattern for 19 seconds of the map (which is almost 40% of it). Since there 00:03:579 (3,5) - guitar makes a slide, you can replace 00:02:379 (1) - and 00:05:979 (7) - for 2 circles each. It represents every type of guitar picking, and the most important - more diversely and fun to play
      
      Okie fixed, hard to make a suuuuuuuper repetitive part play differently :v
      
   2. ...and yeah, you should save this one 00:11:979 (1) - because it seems cool with the arising sound
      
      :D
      
      
2. Compare spacing 00:24:779 (4,1) - and 00:29:579 (4,1) -
3. 00:25:179 (1,2,1) - 00:29:979 (1,2,1) -
   
   Fixed
   
4. 00:31:979 (3,4) - guitar makes a slider, so I feel like this could be a slider, and these 00:31:179 (1,2) - 4 circles
   
   Good catch, fixed.
   
5. 00:50:379 - 00:55:179 - could be one more repeat of the riff, cuz still 100% volume
   
   I like the ending where it's at, it's the only part in the song like it so eh.
   
6. Overall, using DS for melodies in Hard is not very cool ( 00:38:379 (1,2,3,4) and basically everywhere) especially when some sounds are much more stronger than others. You're mapping this diff like "advanced normal", but Hard is something else... (imo, at least)
   
   Originally the map was 3.3* and had different jump sizes, but they were too much :v well fixed now so it's a bit more variable.
   

[Normal]

1. 00:45:580 (1,1) - unnecessary overlap, there's enough of room to work with
   
   Fixed

Easy is fine

[- Mizki -] wrote:

Hi! from the OSUWOT modq. Sorry for late, I was out on the weekdays. These are mostly aesthetics so it's fine if you don't follow :3

General

-Combo colors seems to look close to each other. Maybe consider changing.

Yeah that was intentional, I darkened them to make it alil better though.

Easy

-HP to 2.5 or 3?

Fixed

-00:26:379 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - tbh this is kinda bit confusing since the stack, this is not a problem though but I'm pretty sure this could be mapped better. Also slider 5 is out of the grid.

Going to leave the pattern but fixed 5

-Everything else seems good for me.

Normal

-HP to 4 or 4.5?

Fixed
-00:03:579 (3) - needs to have less curve on it to lead to circle 4 (like 1 and 2 before it)

I'd rather keep the blanket + if the slider was straight instead of curved it would be the same as 1,2

-00:05:980 (7) - I prefer if this slider looks symmetric to slider 1 (00:07:179 (1) - )

I changed the note placement after, but not going to make it parallel.

-00:11:579 (8) - would put this directly in front of the end of slider 7, same with 00:16:379 (8)
-00:17:580 (2) - same as the case in 00:11:579 (8), should be in front

Made everything consistent, but didn't change it to be straight.

-AIMod note: 00:33:981 (3,4) - both are unsnapped, please fix.

Fixed

Hard

-OD to 7? HP to 6.5 or even 7? since there are a lot of health boosts around NCs



-00:49:979 (5) - I prefer this to be a bigger jump

Fixed

srijanfromsd wrote:

m4m

Easy

Not much to say about the mapping. The basic principle of an easy map is followed. Simple stuff, simple map. Only general comments:

Since the drain time is only 49 seconds, you might want to increase your HP Drain rate to 4. Same with OD.

I'll consider it

You may also need a little more hitsounding. It seems you have started hitsounding a little, but this has some work to be done regarding hitsounds. It does not seem complete.

Yeah this map is realllllllllllly hard to hitsound since there aren't any drums.

This difficulty is very promising. I think it's mostly ready for ranking.

Normal

General: Even though it is a pretty low level difficulty, you are not limited by spacing at 2.46*. Changing the spacing up a little will help.

00:22:779: Push this way from circle 4 at 00:22:579. This is a pretty strong beat, so space it more from the previous combo.

00:27:579: ^

00:31:579 (2, 3): I'll mention it once, but you have to make spacing larger, even though it's a 2.4* map. This applies for most of the combos that utilize this pattern. Once in a while, it's okay. But it becomes repetitive if you use it too much, which doesn't make it enjoyable.



Like 99% of 3-3.5* maps will only have 2 or 3 notes total that aren't the exact same spacing. Making it change in something this low sr would be weird.

Interesting flow patterns.

?

Hard

You experiment with the flow of the hitobjects, but sometimes, it's awkward. But its quite different, so change it accordingly while keeping the style.


00:31:179 - 00:31:979: This is awkward flow. Notice how your zigzag is a really weird shape. This is fine under normal circumstances, but since the rest of the map is very uniform, this glares out. Before you change it, go to my comment at 00:35:979.

I think the music justifies the flow honestly + the angles are sharp enough that it isn't horrible.

00:33:579: This is me being OCD but that 3rd hitcircle is not in a perfect triangle and is getting on my nerves

Every 3 note pattern is like that :v

00:35:979: Recall how I said that this combo has awkward flow. Since you have repeated its use in the same fashion, it may be fine. Your choice on this.

00:37:179: My cursor was going in the clockwise direction at 00:36:779, and you're forcing me to go counter clockwise here. This needs to be changed because it is an example of uncomfortable flow that does not belong here.

00:35:979 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - This entire zigzag pattern is like that, the 1,2 are just at a slightly different angle

TequilaWolf wrote:

mod

Hard-

00:02:379 (1,2,3) - in hard difficulties, most of the time it's preferable to follow distance snap spacing. players who play hards are mostly newer players, so it's not suitable to introduce jumps with random spacing too fast

00:04:379 (5,6) - such a jump is too big for a hard.

Only thing I disagree with here, it's a 1/1 jump at 150 BPM. I think it's fine

really in a hard diff you want to keep everything tight and very neat so it's not an issue to read anything at all. you're allowed to put small jumps only once in a while if it's really needed according to the music. I'm going to link a decent hard here so you can look at it and use it as reference: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/434439&m=0

00:35:979 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - patterns like these are really difficult to read for newer players because they're unevenly spaced

this has too many elements here that are too difficult, use more sliders, reverse sliders, and follow distance snap most of the time. refer to more hard difficulties on ranked maps

#

-Nishiki- wrote:

#modreq

Hard

Overall,I think the map has far too much spacing in parts that really don't need that much spacing.It doesn't exactly fit the tone of the song nor does it fit a hard difficulty.

Tone of the song maybe, it's not that weird for a hard diff tho.

Also,the slider velocity is way too long.0.90x is a lot nicer and compliments the mood of the song.

I'll try it, really don't want to remap the entire song :c

A bit weird then at 00:21.579 then that the spacing gets smaller as the song starts to get a bit more intense.

I think spacing plays a much bigger factor the faster the beats are. While the 1/1 jumps have a tiny bit higher DS, it's not enough to be noticable in comparison to the 1/2 jumps.

00:25:979 (2) - Way too far from 00:25:179 (1) .

Moved to fit 1.4x DS

00:33:579 (1,2,3) - An angle here would be nice.

?

00:38:379 (1,2,3,4) - This type of spacing should be consistent throughout most of the song,but feel free to increase it after 00:21.579 .Just don't deviate too much from this spacing.

Do you mean after 00:31:179 (1) - ? I'd prefer to just keep it consistent at this sr tbh.

00:48:379 (3,4) - The way these two sliders are oriented is a bit bizarre.

Fixed a bit

00:49:979 (5) - A finish and an NC would be nice here.

Added NC, but I'm keysounding the map so won't need a finish.

Normal

Overall,the biggest issue is with NCs.
00:27:380 (4,1,2) - Like at here.This would usually confuse newer players,and a better fit would be giving 00:27:380 (4) an NC and removing the NC from 00:27:580 (1) .

Fixed

00:29:580 (4) - Should be placed closer to the slider after it without deviating from the pattern already made.Either that,or move the slider and beat on 00:30:780 (2) .

Why? It's already closer than the 1.4x DS I usually use :v

00:32:379 (1,2) - This section would work much better if 00:32:379 (1) was instead a triple repeating slider,like this:

00:34:379 (4,1,2) - Same situation as 00:29:580 (4) .

The way it is right now matches the sounds better, will consider if someone else mentions.

00:39:579 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - A lot of confusing patterns in this section,especially with this approach rate.

Eh

00:49:979 (5) - NC and a finish.

NC

Easy

00:23:579 (4) - Very weird placement.
00:23:979 (5) - This should have an NC.
00:33:579 (7) - ^

Don't completely agree but fixed anyways

00:37:179 (4) - Since this breaks away a bit from the pattern made by 00:35:979 (1,2,3) it should have an NC.

Fixed

00:31:179 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Consider changing this a bit;might be challenging for new players.

I'll consider it

Luna Flina wrote:

m4m

General

This is subjective but i feel like the SVs are a bit high for a calm song. Try using 0.8/1.0/1.2 for each diffs.

Eh

Easy

Nothing to say, seems good

Normal

00:42:379 (3) - its position has sudden flow change. Maybe something like this to keep the circular flow? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7430361
00:47:980 (1) - try to put it at x:76 y:84 (or somewhere near it if you want to change the SV)

It's a 1/1 jump, the flow isn't off enough to justify changing.

That ruins my DS

Hard

00:22:579 (4,1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7430386
00:31:179 (1,2,1,2) - turn this to a zigzag pattern
00:43:579 (3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7430412
00:46:779 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7430427
00:49:979 (5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7430439

Don't feel any of these are necessary

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

hi i think you helped me with something so here is a NM from modreqs I need kudosu and modscore xd

General

The background should generally be in 16:9 scale which it is not currently because the cropping the osu does by itself is not the best possible and it may not looks as good as it could... I'd recommend cropping the picture to 1366x768

Okie I'll adjust it, 1366x768 isn't the max size anymore though.]

You could hitsound little bit more of the song tbh. Also are these sliderwhistles 00:31:179 (1,4) - (on normal but apply for all difficulties) necessary? I understand this 00:11:979 - sliderwhistle but the ones on kiai seem like they are unnecessary... maybe you could explain a bit why you have chosen to use them on there

In the process of keysounding the map so that should fix it.

Easy

Since this is labelled as an easy difficulty the DS should not change at all or by like 0.01x (really small amounts) at most because the beginners need to be teached about the correlation between timing and distance. So that would mean even this kind of DS changing (comparing this 00:02:379 (1,2,3,4,5) - to this 00:07:179 (1,2,3,4) -) can not exist at all

Fixed

00:07:179 (1,2) - I don't think this kind of a pattern choice is good for easy difficulties. Sure it's easy to play but the object placement may be overwhelming for some new players as there is no flow to keep them on the track. http://puu.sh/ukyvL/b85d0d52c5.jpg Green arrow = Expected flow, Red arrow = Current mouse movement

The actual cursor movement on the first slider is much shorter than that, it's never actually necessary to leave the (1) due to the large CS. New player might try to go all the way through, but even then the speed is so slow at 1/1 that the change in flow shouldn't be awkward to play.

00:31:179 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not necessary but this note spam is quite long for an easy difficulty so would transforming these 00:32:779 (5,6) - two into a 1/2 slider be a good idea since it would cut the (for beginners) tiring spam of notes and imo would follow the song little bit better aswell because the 5 is that much stronger than the 6. Similiar suggestion to similiar patterns

I agree that it might be a little spammy, but if I change 00:32:779 (5,6) - then I would also need to change 00:31:579 (2,3) - due to their similarities which would end up making the pattern the same as every other one in the map even though the song changes significantly.

00:45:579 (1,1) - The curve on these two is quite harsh... imo it would look better if they'd look something like this http://puu.sh/ukz5Z/a584d04d7f.jpg (generally little bit less curved)

Fixed

00:48:379 (2,3) - This is quite harsh for an easy but slider to slider transition is not that hard... idk discuss about this with a BN when you get one of them to mod this

Yeah ik, but I thought it would different enough to justify. Will do.

Normal

00:04:779 (5,6,7) - If you want to have this kind of back and forth pattern i'd recommend you to move the 6 so it flows with the curveture of 5 because you have used only circular flow in that pattern prior to it and even though it would be back and forth movement between 5|6|7 having the 6 flowing with the 5 would still maintain the flow

This first note in the pattern is also straight. I'd also like to keep the 120degree rotations after every slider so I'll keep it for now.

00:05:980 (7,8,1) - It would be better if you would not change the rotation mid combo exceptionally when the pattern of that combo specifically builds around counter clockwise circular flow so changing it tbh does not make sense

Since it suddenly changes from increasing pitch to decreasing I want some variation to show that and I thought a flow change would work well. I ended up adjusting the other ones to match this pattern.

I don't really know what i would say about the more dense part(s) because i haven't really seen similiar mapping before so i can't tell what would be correct and what would be incorrect... You could try to improve the part in general structure like here 00:28:780 (1,2,3,4,1) - you could try to make the 4 and the 1 somehow relateable to the other three hitcircles. I tried to do some kind of example http://puu.sh/ukDPt/f14a9cb309.jpg but you should find your own way if you even want to do anything to the patterns

I think the patterns are fine as they are nice (although I do like your suggestion) so if there are more comments I'll change them up a bit.

00:33:580 (1,2,3) - Though you could ctrl G the 2 and 3 (alternatively 1 and 3) for better flow to the pattern and from the pattern

fixed across the map

Hard

00:02:379 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Since this pattern is pretty much repeating the similiar movement so imo it would be logical to NC every time the movement starts from the beginning so like 00:03:579 (4,6) - these two. Similiar suggestion to all patterns that use this kind of repetitive back and forth movement

Fixed

Alright could i ask from you something about these patterns 00:05:979 (1,2,3) - 00:10:779 (1,2,3) - (insert a yes here) So why do these two change the direction of the circular flow when compared to the back and forth patterns prior and after them but then you choose for these two 00:15:579 (1,2,3) - 00:20:379 (1,2,3) - to use the same circular flow all the way. Any reasons for this kind of altering?

That's more of an oversight than anything. I focused more on changing the location than the flow, fixed now.

The more dense part is quite cool here but the flow is somewhat random time to time. You could try to ctrl G the two last notes on this 00:31:179 (1,2,1,2) - kind of patterns since this is still the hardest difficulty and under the kiai so you can map little bit more loosely. Example pattern done here 00:35:979 (1,2,1,2,1) - http://puu.sh/ukF4h/6a82bee52a.jpg

See ORIGINALLY I had it similar to that, but people didn't appreciate the DS changes to I ended up going with this. I much prefer your suggestion and since you're the most qualified to comment here it seems reasonable. Fixed!

JayJay-San wrote:

Jay from the modding queue!!! <3

Hard

00:24:379 (3,4,1,2) - Check Spacing for a lot of those triangle notes. Those could be spaced better

What do you mean? :v

PandaHero wrote:

NM from my queue

General:

1. Change your background dimensions, it should be 1366x768, 1900x1080 or 1900x1200 (maximum).
2. Unused hitsounds:
soft-sliderwhistle.wav
3. 00:02:379 - Volume level on green and red line here are not the same (25 for red and 70 for green).
4. Your combo-colors are very similar to each other, I would recommend to change it.
5. Hitsounds are too loud imo

[Easy]

00:02:379 (1,2,3,4) - make a perfect blankets between these sliders

Fixed

00:26:379 (1,2) - move it a bit left to avoid overlap with 00:25:179 (3). But then it will break your pattern here 00:27:579 (3,4,1) - , but I think you can change it, because it's a bit boring imo.

Just moved everything after it to the left to fix the overlap and keep the pattern. Also Easy's are usually boring :v

00:46:779 (1) - I think that this nc are not necessary here

Fixed

00:46:779 (1,2) - also move it a bit up for avoid overlap with end of this slider - 00:44:379 (3)

I'm not sure what overlap you're talking about...

[Normal]

00:10:779 (7) - make it curve? Smth like this will be nice imo.
00:10:779 (7,1) - If you did this ^, fix stack between these objects and so on.

I only curve the sliders when there's a hammer on the guitar.

00:16:379 (8) - move it down and left for making ideal line between this note and slider - 00:15:579 (7)
00:16:779 (1,2) - same, or make sider curve

As of now the slider start and beat after are in the same locations as the curved ones, prefer to keep it consistent.

00:21:580 (1,2,3) - move it a bit up and make it more curve - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7586612

Fixed

00:23:980 (1,2,3,4) - if you move previous patterns up, you can make a blanket here - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7586622

Fixed

00:25:179 (1,2) - make a blanket here? These slider and note looks a bit random
00:34:779 (1,2) - same here. I just dislke angle between these objects - 00:34:779 (1,2,1)

Imo the flow and look fine

00:40:380 (2,1,2,3) - please avoid of this placement, it looks dirty. Place this pattern 00:40:780 (1,2,3) - in the left part of screen. For example - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7586672
But then you'll need to rework this place - 00:41:780 (1,2,3,4)

Fixed

00:45:580 (1,2,3) - move it a bit down (overlap, ye)

Fixed I think

00:48:379 (3) - too curve slider for your map imo.

Idk I think it's fine, especially since it's a length I've never used before.

[Hard]

00:17:979 (1,1) - too curve sliders for your map again, I recommend make it the same as here 00:13:179 (1,1)

ixed

00:24:379 (3,4,5) - I don't like angle here, I recommend to move 5 slider down - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7586715

Fixed

00:27:379 (4,1,2) - please make a perfect square here

Fixed

00:31:179 (1,2,1,2,1) - a lot of unnecessary nc's here. It's don't help to read this pattern imo.
00:35:979 (1,2,1,2,1) - same

It differentiates this pattern from the others with the same beginning sounds. If I get more complaints I'll change it.

00:48:379 (3,4) - too big spacing here imo

I think the end of the song + unusual slider length makes it OK

End of the mod.