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LiSA - Catch the Moment -Radio Edit ver.-

posted February 10, 2017 at 6:54:00 PM UTC

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Doormat

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Doormat March 12, 2017 at 7:19:55 AM UTC

Pata-Mon wrote:
[Doormat]
00:14:442 (2,1) - stack? ok

Hazu- wrote:
Doormat's Hard
00:29:758 (3,1) - Blanket? Would look better... i did a thing
01:05:759 - This sound could be clickable, too prominent sound, same for 01:25:968 - . i want to put more emphasis on the held vocals here, which is why this is a slider end
01:55:652 - Remove this green line, currently doesn't perform any function. ok

thanks for the mods-

https://drmt.s-ul.eu/Kouoqte0

Shad0w1and

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Shad0w1and March 12, 2017 at 7:25:41 AM UTC

@patamon，都是无关痛痒的东西，微调了两个

chucentry wrote:
hi

00:08:442 (6,7,8,9,1) - maybe u can try with this. looks like have better flow http://puu.sh/uDrK0/7a84c59f45.jpg no because it breaks my pattern xc

00:11:442 (1,2) - maybe is for the custom stack... fix stack ? I do not like wave slider in gernal, current looks better for me

00:16:179 (1) - this slider is so weird to play and not looks good. Prefer to make it longer http://puu.sh/uDrYG/22791533b2.jpg

00:24:863 (5,6) - Swap it it is triangle thou

00:32:916 (1) - etto ne.. http://puu.sh/uDsnQ/fec337cac9.jpg 00:32:916 - it is not a vocal beat so I give no space on this beat

00:51:231 (1,2,3,4) - i think here need to continue the flow that follow all 1:2 i mean http://puu.sh/uDsv5/9b4bc7ae8f.jpg that will be a overkill

01:00:231 (2) - Ctrl + G
01:29:758 (1,3) - swap it

01:30:231 (4,5) - swap too well... I really think both worked, so I want to keep my original idea

sory if is late and sory if is not extend but hope this be helpful!!

<3<3

Metaku wrote:
hi hi m4m

[General]

Ofc up to you but I find it weird that Lami's diff has higher OD than the top diff, maybe increase Moecho's OD to 7,5 as it now has same od as hyper? It has to do with their styles, the kickslider usage need a lower od so players can follow and do not get too many 100s
Moecho's diff has different timing?
Inconsistent source on Lami's?
Drum-sliderslide99.wav unused
normal-hitfinish.wav and soft-hitnormal98.wav consider cutting these or using different ones since they have some quiet noise or something on the beginning of them which causes the actual peak of the sound to be delayed so it might sound delayed while playing these hs should be fine because the hitfinish is the official file mixed hs, and its chracteristicts allow that.
Inconsistent ending times so might want to adjust the spinner on Moecho's (Kisses' is understandable tho since you can't really have spinner that long on easy)
01:55:652 - I think the timing change here is kinda stupid since the difference isn't that big and changing it for a single note just halts playability instead of improving it which kind of ruins the purpose of proper timing in the first place

[Hyper]

fixed all stacking and one slider repeat problem, other are definitely fine, you can test play it. it is a light insane and all technics are acceptable for this diff.
if you got more problems after the test play, contact me and I will explain.

Btw what happened to Moecho she rip

[-Crissaegrim-] wrote:
Hey o/ from my queue

I think this should have a 5* diff

Ultra
00:01:337 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - previous pattern was nice for this part of the song, emphasizing very well those high piano sounds, but here you put little jumps with almost the same distance, i recommend to increase distance on white ticks, this is for this section overall Pattern here works more than DS

00:10:021 (1,2,1) - i think these should have less distance, their sound doesn't deserve it, 00:10:810 (1,2,3,4) - these can have high spacing because of intensity I do not agree with you

00:14:758 (2) - NC
00:15:231 (1) - don't NC current is fine imo

00:16:495 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - you could rethink distance between these notes, dont make all the same, follow the music intensity jump difficulty will stack on the last note. currrent worked as well.

00:30:074 (1) - this looks a bit messy, this is very personal but trying a smoother shape would represent better the music, there's no reason to put something like this here made a change

00:31:179 (1,1,1) - these shouldn't be here, they represent nothing, maybe extend last slider and map what should be mapped nothing? you sure?

00:36:074 (3,4) - i think these should have the same shape

00:34:179 (1,2) - maybe move 2 a bit so it flows better
00:36:705 (1,2) - ^
i see you used patterns like that a lot, so i won't point them anymore yeah slider will reduce the difficulty for reading, so it does not matter at all even placed same distance as 1/2 for Extra and above, remember that.

00:38:442 (3,4,5,6,1) - i recommend to map vocals in some parts like these wich vocals can be heard much more than other sounds not for this diff

00:40:021 (2,3,1) - i would increase distance a bit, intensity 3 is not a heavy beat, and also remember that a stop will also be a strong emphasis sometime.

00:49:337 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - try to increase distance gradually here, next section is very jumpy so introducing it is always better patterns more important than spacing here

00:55:652 (1) - don't NC I have strong opinions about NC desicions, unless it was my mistake, I will always NC this type of notes.

00:58:179 (1,2) - these should have the same shape

00:58:495 (2) - also try to keep using circular flow, this part has pretty fast sliders so keeping them easier to hit is always good

01:00:074 (1,2) - maybe move them up and ctrl+h 2nd slider, just for flow
01:00:705 (1) - same here, flow
i'll stop pointing at these too, i think you got what i tried to say

01:04:179 (3,1,2) - 01:02:284 (2,1) - there's no reason for using these kind of shapes I have even stronger opinion about flow. I do not agree with other's flow opinions on my map, almost never. They are fine.

01:06:231 (3) - increase distance not for this one

01:07:021 - cut kiai here
01:17:126 - start kiai again here
01:27:231 - cut kiai
01:37:337 - start kiai again (i think you know these because you added bookmarks but idk) no, I do not want do that in this map, just because I do not think it fits. I did that in like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/970331 maps because they are different than this one.

01:51:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - stack with 01:50:758 (3) - maybe

01:56:102 (4) - a slider fits better does not matter

01:55:652 - just delete this red line(as well as the next one) it is wrong timing because of this audio was trimmed by producer and they did not count the bpm section so we have to adjust their cut error by redline.

Ringer wrote:
hi, from my m4m queue

General

01:07:021(1) - End the kiai there
01:17:126(1) - Restart here
01:27:231(1) - End the kiai there

Ultra

00:00:389(3,4) - switch thoses 2 ? I know what you wanted to do but it seems a bit rude for the beginning of the map, I think you should let the player understand the pattern and then maybe do what you've done a bit after
00:00:705(5,6) - same as above
01:07:652(1,2) - The slider pattern may be a bit repetitive starting from there, maybe find another pattern to match this? + the intensity of the music isn't the same (AkA use the slider pattern only in kiai, so restart using it at 01:17:126?) It will be harder to rank it so I want to just keep it safe for this diff.
01:43:416 - Spinner? Until 01:46:179
01:49:495(2,3) - Stacked like 01:48:705(2,3) ?

Shad0wkyik's Another

WIP diff so I won't say too much

01:09:547->01:11:600 - Theses doubles seems really unconfortable to play even more for insane players
01:14:284(4,1) - Nerf this jump?

Hyper

00:04:810(2) - I don't feel this circle fit the rythm you've done, remove it
00:28:968(4,1) - Maybe a bit hard to read for hyper ? try not moving the sliders etc to make the circle (4) be on the beginning of the slider (1) (as long as it's the only time you do this before the kiai, where it might be more appropriated it is fine because hyper is light insane...
01:33:547(1) - Same slider than at 01:32:284(1) why?

you can mod the despair diff of this iin exchange

Hazu- wrote:
late nazi
General
Dissable Widescreen Support in Kisses' Novice, Flask's Advanced, Doormat's Hard and Lami's Extra.
Remove "-" from tags (repeated)keep for now
--- ⋆ ---
Hyper
AiMod
00:17:126 (3,1) - I'm not sure about this overlap, I think it can hinder the repeat of 00:17:758 (1) - not a problem
00:17:758 (1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1) - Why are there so many NC here? There aren't many important things, there aren't changes of SV... drums - crash - guitar - drums - crash, every time a track switch I will do a NC for the hint.
00:39:863 (1) - Why NC here? I think the NC would be better in 00:40:021 (2) - Since there is nothing very important in 00:39:863 (1) - or just remove it added another NC on 00:41:126 (1) - to make this consistant.
00:44:916 - 00:45:547 - 00:46:179 - Mmm ... I don't like much how these sounds are represented, very strong and not clickable. highlighting the vocal
--- ⋆ ---
Another
00:04:810 - The other diffs mapped this sound, it looks weird with nothing here xD
00:40:337 (1,1,1,1,1) - Same as I said about NC in Hyper diff.
01:05:126 (3,4,5) - I would like to have a more consistent DS here, since they are very similar sounds, I could even say that it would be better to have more DS between 01:05:284 (4) - and 01:05:442 (5) - for the drum sound. does not matter, it is not a DS directed game, flow cut works too
01:25:336 (3,4,5) - ^
--- ⋆ ---
Ultra
00:10:652 (3) - In a part as intense as this I think that there will be many problems with the end 1/8 of this slider, I strongly recommend that the end of the slider be in 00:10:731 - to avoid future problems. as a intense part like this, players only rely on their reading on the clickables, the spacing and DS play minor role on these parts.
00:22:810 (1) - Missing additions normal and clap?
00:40:337 (1) - Throughout the diff there are many stack like these that I worry a lot, since with the intensity that is the diff and that there are so many NC with stack I think those sounds lose a lot of intensity. stop is an emphasis to me
01:38:600 (3) - Missing finish?
01:13:652 (1) - Remove NC? I don't think it's worth having this combo (01:13:337 (1) - ) so short.
01:54:626 - I think you forgot to map this sound (consistency with 00:18:626 (4) - ) I say it mainly because they are the same sounds. not the same, no sound here
01:54:705 (2) - Replace with a 3/4 slider for consistency with 00:18:705 (1) -
GL~

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=============Moecho========

Pata-Mon
总得来说有些滥用短话条了，再怎么说这也是只个insane．=答：Insane有不同的方式去Map.. 而且這也完全是看Mapper的Style啦=
如果说00:15:863 (1,2) - 00:18:389 (4,5) - 这类短滑条是为了强调重音还可以接受的话 =答：這類本來就很正常啊=，
那00:13:495 (4) - 01:13:810 (3) - 这种短话条就比较无理了，后者滑条头甚至都是一个很轻的音，而且跟之后还用了那么大的ds =答：我覺得挺合適的.. 聽起來舒服，而且也放了hitsound，DS也沒有非常大啊。01:13:810 (3) - 這裡DS大也是因為下一個音也會更激烈了=

Metaku
00:01:258 (5,1) - broken stack =RE: for all the broken stacks issues, please just use the Show Stacking function in the editor. Fix only for the crucial ones=
00:03:074 (1,2) - Why the sudden change in rhythm here? =RE:Ask why the song composer composed it that way=
00:03:705 (2,1) - another broken stack
00:05:047 (5) - can be kinda unexpected and since it's overmapped anyway I'd suggest you to remove it =RE: removed due to large distance with not enough emphasis=
00:05:442 (2,3) - again feels kinda weird to change rhythm here since the strong sounds are still on white ticks =RE: repect mapper's rhythm choice and try to understand it thanks. It isn't hard to hear that rhythm and according to your comment, a lot of maps would only contain a lot of 1/2s=
00:10:179 (1,2,3,4) - cool pattern =RE: Thanks

=
00:18:389 (4,5,6) - maybe ctrl g 6 to keep consistent with 00:10:810 (2,3,4) - =RE: It is intentional, 00:18:705 (6) - has a finish, and that is more emphasized, as well as flow would be wierd here if it gone the other way=
00:20:126 (1,1) - Maybe blanket better? =RE: Fixed=
00:23:284 (2,3) - Maybe adjust so you could keep the cool reverse flow going =RE: I did intent to do that but not sure why it became that way. Fixed=
00:29:758 (3) - maybe curve the other way instead? Both 00:29:126 (1,2) - were curving inwards =RE: This was intentional, and looks better and flows better and match better with the song melody. No change=
00:31:652 (1) - Maybe ctrl g? Would work well with all the reverse flow and would also have better emphasis for the cymbal hit =RE: Way way way too big distance here, and it's enough DS as it is now due to slow speed into faster speed=
01:15:547 (1,2) - Kinda weird to lower the spacing when the song gets more intense... =RE: It was not that much of a deal but adjusted=
01:18:389 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This really stands out... Why is it mapped completely differently compared to rest of the part? =RE: All I can say is listen to the music more closely=
01:20:916 (1,2) - broken stack
01:21:863 (5,2) - I'd stack these for consistency
01:26:442 (3,5) - Broken stack
01:33:547 (1) - I think just a 1/2 would work better here =RE: Intentional, the slider breaks at the red line into another direction=
01:39:863 (1,2) - blanket could be better =RE: both fixed=
01:41:126 (1,2) - ^
01:57:361 (4) - I think this deserves more spacing =RE: Not necessary, I think it fits good as it is now=

wow this is a really cool diff =RE: thanks a lot

=

-Crissaegrim-

00:01:258 (5) - this is a pretty big 1/4 jump, i highly recommend nerfing it =RE: Potential jump isn't that big, insane players should be able to do this as we see this more often in Hards=
00:03:547 (1,2) - this kills consistency, just make 1st slider repeat =RE: That would break pattern consistency=
00:05:047 (5) - same as above, consider nerfing it
00:37:021 (2) - this should be just a circle, i know tail gets a little beat but this really breaks consistency of the map overall =RE: This is a small pattern and a transition into following another rhythm=
00:40:021 (2) - here too, this should be changed because slider tail doesn't get any sound, if you want to map that cymbal sound just extend it to the next tick =RE: I see absolutely nothing wrong with this=
00:47:600 - slider vel should be higher here =RE: Why? I don't see the point=
01:05:442 (5) - why this jump is so big? =RE: Adjusted now=
01:13:810 (3) - this should be just a circle, there isn't any sound on slider head nor tail so just let it as a circle for emphasis =RE: The slider head clearly has sound, for more reason, see the reply above about this=
01:18:389 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - hm i think you could try a better pattern, it's too out of the map patterns overall =RE: I think it fits well..=
01:22:810 (3) - same thing with these sliders, just make it a circle
i'll stop pointing at those things i think you got what i'm trying to say =RE: This is semi-consistent and leading into the highest difficulty in one aspect, as well as it is not breaking the song, no change=
01:21:863 (5,2) - stack them properly =RE: Please start using Show Stack in editor, thanks=
01:26:442 (3,5) - ^
01:35:758 (5,2) - ^
01:37:810 (3,1) - nerf this, too big distance =RE: Adjusted=
01:38:283 (2,3) - this could be missread as a 1/4 double, try to separate them =RE: I think it's fine as it is=
01:40:337 (2) - cut this to the red tick =RE: no=
01:41:600 (2) - ^ =RE: ^=
01:56:105 (1,1) - too much distance, also they are different combos so player couldn't see followpoint, try to fix this =RE: fixed=

Ringer

00:47:442(2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This pattern is maybe a bit hard to read for insane players, I know the aim of this difficulty is to challenge the reading of the player but it seems a bit too much for an insane =RE: I think this is fine=
00:51:231(3) - 2 circles instead of this slider? =RE: no, that would just feel wierd to play and also breaking the blanket pattern=
01:45:074 - This break shouldn't be here tho, it isn't on the hyper =RE: I don't remember there was rule about that=

Hazu-

00:32:758 (5,1) - Swap NC? Feels much better in 00:32:758 (5) - =RE: For me it looks way much cleaner as it is=
00:46:179 - Missing finish, I think =RE: Thanks for pointing out, added=

=Thanks for modding=
Moeri out.

Last edited by Shad0w1and March 12, 2017 at 8:30:37 AM UTC, edited 1 times in total.

Ascendance

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Ascendance March 12, 2017 at 7:27:51 AM UTC

catch the beat

Shad0w1and

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Topic Starter

Shad0w1and March 12, 2017 at 7:33:10 AM UTC

@all GDers, if you were copying my HS, you might want to double check if these HS are set correctly!!!!
[*] 00:22:810 (1) - sliderhead - additions: normal = whistle & clap (this one must fix, the rest are optional. I fixed this for Flask, Lami and Doormat, plz update before doing further edit)
[*] 01:38:600 (3) - sliderhead - additions: normal = whistle & finish & clap
[*] 01:41:126 (2) - sliderhead - additions: normal = whistle & finish & clap

Lami

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Lami March 14, 2017 at 5:50:59 AM UTC

im okay about dat hitsound point.

At Hazu-'s modding, im okay dat point, since i just copied hitsound. i'd like to follow vocal at here.
disable widescreen plzzz

Monstrata

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Monstrata March 18, 2017 at 8:20:53 AM UTC

Ultra

00:12:547 (1,3) - These shapes could be more relatable for better visual consistency.
00:32:758 (6,1) - Stacking isn't a good idea cuz of the downbeat losing emphasis xP.
00:47:126 (2,3,1,2,3) - These aren't following a layer in particular. You can click on each circle and its following something, but theyre all following some different instrument. Pick a rhythm and stick with it here, this is too ambiguous and its also rather dense for the section.
00:49:337 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Also sounds overmapped to me... why all the clicks? You could have integrated more 1/2 slider rhythms here.
00:51:863 - Makes a lot more sense to transition to 1/2 clicking rhythm after this point,.
00:56:916 (1,2) - This is overmapped. Refer to how you do 00:58:179 (1) - 00:59:442 (1) - etc...
01:06:389 (1,2,3,4,1) - Can be better expressed through 1/2 sliders really. The 1/2 clicks on red ticks aren't necessary imo.
01:18:074 (3,2) - Visually, this pattern just looks really poor imo...
01:27:231 - Musical shift here. Instruments become softer and less frequent. You could reduce SV here or maybe remove kiai or something.
01:46:810 (2) - Such a fast slider. You could have reduced SV here xP

[]

Well, like I mentioned in chat. I think the kiai is just not a good design choice. The messy slider patterns and lack of consistent structure really cause the map to look kind of broken. I mean, compare the kiai to the intro where you use very solid structure too. This is too out there imo. The song doesn't require design elements like this. It's probably rankable, but it's not something I personally can support since the song itself is quite consistent and doesn't need chaotic slider patterns.

Good luck with this set anyways. I guess you can treat this as a free mod.

Shad0w1and

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Shad0w1and March 18, 2017 at 8:51:45 AM UTC

Monstrata wrote:
Ultra

00:12:547 (1,3) - These shapes could be more relatable for better visual consistency. not for visual consistency anyways...
00:32:758 (6,1) - Stacking isn't a good idea cuz of the downbeat losing emphasis xP. stop on the vocal beat for the emphasis
00:47:126 (2,3,1,2,3) - These aren't following a layer in particular. You can click on each circle and its following something, but theyre all following some different instrument. Pick a rhythm and stick with it here, this is too ambiguous and its also rather dense for the section. it is not too dense though....
00:49:337 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Also sounds overmapped to me... why all the clicks? You could have integrated more 1/2 slider rhythms here. the spacing and stacking make them not that hard, and i really think clicks are not really harder than sliders at this speed for this diff. Will change if more people have the same problem.
00:51:863 - Makes a lot more sense to transition to 1/2 clicking rhythm after this point,.
00:56:916 (1,2) - This is overmapped. Refer to how you do 00:58:179 (1) - 00:59:442 (1) - etc...
01:06:389 (1,2,3,4,1) - Can be better expressed through 1/2 sliders really. The 1/2 clicks on red ticks aren't necessary imo.
01:18:074 (3,2) - Visually, this pattern just looks really poor imo... well this has to do with my overall design, as I explained in irc, I will leave it for now because that is how i present the flow change.
01:27:231 - Musical shift here. Instruments become softer and less frequent. You could reduce SV here or maybe remove kiai or something. if another person got the same problem, I will fix this
01:46:810 (2) - Such a fast slider. You could have reduced SV here xP

[]

Well, like I mentioned in chat. I think the kiai is just not a good design choice. The messy slider patterns and lack of consistent structure really cause the map to look kind of broken. I mean, compare the kiai to the intro where you use very solid structure too. This is too out there imo. The song doesn't require design elements like this. It's probably rankable, but it's not something I personally can support since the song itself is quite consistent and doesn't need chaotic slider patterns.

Good luck with this set anyways. I guess you can treat this as a free mod.

all sliders are designed well to my standard though... i guess i will remember that you do not like this type of diff...

ok we are going for plan B..... hope we could get this ranked soon....

Garden

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Garden March 19, 2017 at 2:44:59 PM UTC

为啥我感觉自己经常摊上很多很多diff的图

General

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms: normal-hitfinish.wav soft-hitnormal98.wav
那个finish貌似蛮明显的和whistle一起加的时候(?

Kisses

00:50:284 (2) - a bit too much overlap with hp bar
01:47:442 (1,2) - etc. i feel rhythm here unintuitive for beginners to read, i suggest following the main melody like you did to 00:11:442 - section

00:15:863 (2) - 这个finish在尾巴上听上去有点怪，考虑换成1/2滑条+圈
00:58:810 (4) - 碰血条有点多可以放下来点
01:17:126 (1,2) - 这里节奏比较密，把2放1下面感觉读起来比较清楚
01:52:495 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - https://puu.sh/uPLXm/c067623f1f.png 有点难.. 主要跟重音简化一下吧?

Doormat

od6 is fairly enough imo and hyper can then use sth between hard & insane
00:54:389 (1,5,6) - with current stack leniency the stack here looks bad visually https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7602997, maybe convert 56 into a slider so the pattern would look clean and the rhythm isnt simplified too much either

Hyper

od6.5 for neat diffspread
00:41:442 (3) - 音效不同，把这个unstack了好像比较有感觉
01:13:810 (2,3) - 01:13:968 - 这里也不是很强，原地stack接这样的flow感觉不合适，我建议这部分大概这样整体调一下 -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7603051
01:22:495 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7603066 比较合你这段整体用于1,2的flow
01:27:863 (4,5) - 我觉得削一点间距比较好，圈圈跳其他地方也没放这么大的

Moecho

00:08:916 (1) - 这里感觉用个默认的softwhistle点一下效果会不错
00:16:179 (3) - burai目前还是unrankable的来着
00:18:705 (6,7,1) - 微调一下7,1位置让这边包得和 00:18:389 (4,5,6) - 视觉距离差不多? 个人认为这样这个梗看上去更有整体感（欸就是和 01:54:705 (2,3,1) - 一样，为什么复制段落这里是不一样的.. NC也不一样）
00:19:652 (4,5) - 我觉得可以调整下节奏突出这个音 -> 00:19:810 - 毕竟前面整体上都在跟主旋律，最后一段同
00:20:126 - 这里出kiai比较好? 和你最后一段一样
00:44:284 (1,2,1) - 滑条尾巴drum sample?
01:18:389 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 为什么这里节奏处理得和kiai其他部分很不一样啊.. 忽然一堆圈儿

Another

01:08:284 (1) - 用01:07:021 (1) - ctrl-h的形状? 这里overlap我看着感觉不太舒服
01:52:021 (2) - 我觉得这个换圈比较好因为音效和 01:51:863 - 不一样，虽然打起来是基本没差

Lami

01:30:389 (5,6) - maybe decrease the spacing between them so 01:29:758 (1,2) - 01:30:074 (3,4) - 01:30:389 (5,6) - can have gradually decreasing spacing which fits the lowering vocal pitch
01:52:495 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - imo it should be 3 circles for each new combo setting according to hitsounding and music

Ultra

为啥od比extra低，难道已经给score v2滑条图做好准备了
00:15:547 (2) - 除非有摆梗这种连续两个1/2滑条表示一样的节奏希望弧度上有点consistency
00:18:389 (1,2,3,4,1) - 这五连好像有点缺少弧度，和前面那组比起来
00:24:389 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ~~不这不几何~~ 可以调下前后stack的物件弄成比较整的三角，应该不是很麻烦
00:31:337 - softclap或者normal sample那种音效更合曲点
00:34:652 (3) - 虽然横过来最顺手但没地方放了.. 我觉得用前面3/4一样的弧度平行放比较美观
00:42:074 (3) - 这个也是，和 00:41:600 (1,4) - 一起看起来很不协调
00:49:021 (3) - ^
00:56:284 (1) - 这个用drum whistle好像效果更好，和后面几个不太一样
01:15:863 (3,4) - 这里节奏下的没有区分度，我觉得可以主要跟主旋律的这三个音 01:15:547 - 01:15:705 - 01:15:863 - ，用这个节奏-> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7605291，就是要调整一下梗
01:22:179 (1,2) - 这种将就着要overlap的就摆摆清楚到底碰不碰.. 强迫症
01:27:705 - drumwhistle? 后面好像也有一些适合这个音效, clap有点显得太轻的地方
01:36:863 (1,2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7605325 从3直的下来还是直的感觉别手
01:43:179 (1,2) - nc倒过来? 我感觉不管跟vocal还是跳梗本身感觉都应该那样加啊
01:51:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这个弧度接前面的flow想打人.. 而且音乐本身这样导致这个五连出现得很突兀，如果能改得顺点就好啦

I personally can agree with the chaotic slider usage for kiai section in Ultra diff. It's consistent there, plays fine from my perspective and kinda give me a feeling of adventuring, somehow fits the theme imo. hey tho the background image doesnt seem to suggest so lo l

Flask

3,303 posts

Joined July 2011

Flask March 19, 2017 at 3:48:54 PM UTC

全fix啦

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Shad0w1and

1,561 posts

Joined April 2011

Topic Starter

Shad0w1and March 19, 2017 at 6:54:52 PM UTC

Garden wrote:
为啥我感觉自己经常摊上很多很多diff的图

General
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms: normal-hitfinish.wav soft-hitnormal98.wav
那个finish貌似蛮明显的和whistle一起加的时候(? the finish should be fine, it is osu default finish mixed with other, consider its usage i think osu has this delay with intenton

Hyper
od6.5 for neat diffspread
00:41:442 (3) - 音效不同，把这个unstack了好像比较有感觉感觉那样反而难打了，要不然全部拆开要不全部叠上我觉得才比较好打
01:13:810 (2,3) - 01:13:968 - 这里也不是很强，原地stack接这样的flow感觉不合适，我建议这部分大概这样整体调一下 -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7603051 这里主要是后面是一个全场高潮跳，要是没有一个build up的难度我感觉到时候太突兀，目前这样我觉得比较适合我作图的理念
01:22:495 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7603066 比较合你这段整体用于1,2的flow
01:27:863 (4,5) - 我觉得削一点间距比较好，圈圈跳其他地方也没放这么大的 1.6x降到1.4x感觉应该好多了

Another
01:08:284 (1) - 用01:07:021 (1) - ctrl-h的形状? 这里overlap我看着感觉不太舒服
01:52:021 (2) - 我觉得这个换圈比较好因为音效和 01:51:863 - 不一样，虽然打起来是基本没差为了排版好看就保持了xc

Ultra
为啥od比extra低，难道已经给score v2滑条图做好准备了 ultra我其实并不是为了PP做的...只是我自己喜欢搞高星自我满足，od这里主要是考虑到相比Extra，kiai高速滑条多了太多，加上spaced stream怀疑很多人会路人断，本来我想弄到8.5，考虑了test player的意见才改成了8.8，我觉得高od并不能带来打图体验的提升，od适合图风最好。之前od8.5 Beafowl都路人断在了滑条上，所以我怀疑这图难点就是要保证滑条不断给低od
00:15:547 (2) - 除非有摆梗这种连续两个1/2滑条表示一样的节奏希望弧度上有点consistency 我感觉不知道是我审美畸形还是什么，我觉得consistency的滑条丑爆。。。所以你基本看不到我两个滑条一样的形状走向，除非刻意摆图形的时候。要是你一定要我改我可以改，但是我觉得那样真的更难看。。。
00:18:389 (1,2,3,4,1) - 这五连好像有点缺少弧度，和前面那组比起来前面那一组的音是钢琴，后面是鼓点，而且也不用刻意追求一样吧xc，我的审美比较倾向于uneven的不规则流，不论是作图还是艺术
00:24:389 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ~~不这不几何~~ 可以调下前后stack的物件弄成比较整的三角，应该不是很麻烦
00:31:337 - softclap或者normal sample那种音效更合曲点这里怕音效给重了，所以目前这个不会很重的我挺喜欢
00:34:652 (3) - 虽然横过来最顺手但没地方放了.. 我觉得用前面3/4一样的弧度平行放比较美观所以还是审美问题xc我觉得现在这样挺好，后面几个审美问题我也不太想改
00:42:074 (3) - 这个也是，和 00:41:600 (1,4) - 一起看起来很不协调
00:49:021 (3) - ^
00:56:284 (1) - 这个用drum whistle好像效果更好，和后面几个不太一样
01:15:863 (3,4) - 这里节奏下的没有区分度，我觉得可以主要跟主旋律的这三个音 01:15:547 - 01:15:705 - 01:15:863 - ，用这个节奏-> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7605291，就是要调整一下梗你觉得一定要改我觉得可以改，但是目前的梗我挺喜欢的，可以的话最好保留
01:22:179 (1,2) - 这种将就着要overlap的就摆摆清楚到底碰不碰.. 强迫症
01:27:705 - drumwhistle? 后面好像也有一些适合这个音效, clap有点显得太轻的地方我仔细听了我所有音效，没有能适合这个音的。。因为仔细听这一段每个音都不一样，为了不犯错还是用安全一点的n clap算了
01:36:863 (1,2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7605325 从3直的下来还是直的感觉别手
01:43:179 (1,2) - nc倒过来? 我感觉不管跟vocal还是跳梗本身感觉都应该那样加啊
01:51:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这个弧度接前面的flow想打人.. 而且音乐本身这样导致这个五连出现得很突兀，如果能改得顺点就好啦之前你irc说的时候我已经改了平了，那我再多改平一点

I personally can agree with the chaotic slider usage for kiai section in Ultra diff. It's consistent there, plays fine from my perspective and kinda give me a feeling of adventuring, somehow fits the theme imo. hey tho the background image doesnt seem to suggest so lo l

关于BG，因为现在有yuna的BG只有比基尼这一张，所以我觉得挺有必要的

Doormat

2,010 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat March 20, 2017 at 1:05:50 AM UTC

@Garden, i lowered OD to 6 and changed the (5,6) to a slider. thanks for the mod :3

https://drmt.s-ul.eu/hnwmkwQa

Lami

1,755 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami March 20, 2017 at 3:38:00 AM UTC

1 point : reduced
2 point : i think it followed other sound which i think more important, same with 00:16:495 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - .
and i copied hitsound from highest diff >_>

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_handholding March 20, 2017 at 11:38:51 AM UTC

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Fixed a couple of things from other ppl's mods

@garden overlap is ok imo, fixed rhythm

Shad0w1and

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Topic Starter

Shad0w1and March 20, 2017 at 4:37:48 PM UTC

Moecho
==============

Garden wrote:
为啥我感觉自己经常摊上很多很多diff的图

General
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms: normal-hitfinish.wav soft-hitnormal98.wav
那个finish貌似蛮明显的和whistle一起加的时候(?

Moecho
00:08:916 (1) - 这里感觉用个默认的softwhistle点一下效果会不错行的
00:16:179 (3) - burai目前还是unrankable的来着你摸圖之前忘記更新了，這個已經改好，我忘記之前那個什麼樣子了... 感覺應該沒有做burai吧總之不是故意的
00:18:705 (6,7,1) - 微调一下7,1位置让这边包得和 00:18:389 (4,5,6) - 视觉距离差不多? 个人认为这样这个梗看上去更有整体感（欸就是和 01:54:705 (2,3,1) - 一样，为什么复制段落这里是不一样的.. NC也不一样）後面的NC可能不小心點到了謝謝，然後Blanket我實在不覺得有什麼問題，主要是你開了Stack之後就根本是動1px的節奏... 我調整了一下4的位置，包了5的尾巴
00:19:652 (4,5) - 我觉得可以调整下节奏突出这个音 -> 00:19:810 - 毕竟前面整体上都在跟主旋律，最后一段同有點難修改，這裡不好分了之前想好的現在修改很難，interesting不過目前應該不會改了
00:20:126 - 这里出kiai比较好? 和你最后一段一样我後面這段也之前改了一下沒更新，不是很懂你現在說的，不過修改了一下，現在應該效果蠻好的了
00:44:284 (1,2,1) - 滑条尾巴drum sample? 好的
01:18:389 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 为什么这里节奏处理得和kiai其他部分很不一样啊.. 忽然一堆圈儿歌裡面就是這樣子compose的節奏，仔細聽bass

HS是从Caramel Heaven拿的，根据测试，你砍掉波峰后面那一块对音效没影响，但是砍掉前面那一块反而音效没对了，应该是波峰没有反应实际听觉。。。这个音效没有delay，1ms也没有

jonathanlfj

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Joined February 2010

jonathanlfj March 21, 2017 at 3:00:03 AM UTC

[Kisses' Novice]
00:08:916 (1) - whistle?
00:50:284 (2) - this significantly overlaps the hp bar, you should lower it
01:52:495 (1) - this should end at 01:52:968 based on where the drums land

[Flask's Advanced]
00:24:074 (1) - the end of this slider overlaps the progress bar and score display, consider lowering it a bit
00:30:074 (1) - a bit Nazi but this is not symmetrical; you can build it on the y-axis then just rotate it slightly clockwise
00:56:284 (1) - feels more impactful as a 1/2 repeat slider imo
01:07:021 (4) - NC here instead of 01:07:337 (1); refer to 01:09:547 (1)
01:29:126 (4) - generally overlaps that cover more than half of the hitcircle is discouraged in a lower difficulty like this, you should adjust it so it overlaps similar to 00:21:547 (1)
01:42:389 (1,2) - should try to follow vocals here which is a much more dominant layer: https://puu.sh/uSs7a.jpg
01:53:442 (3) - the sequence of 1/2 is quite long here so you can separate it by making this a circle

[Doormat's Hard]
00:40:337 (1) - a more natural flow for this is to stack it on top of 00:39:863 (3), but the patterns after are gonna have to be adjusted to up to you
otherwise a very consistent map, nothing much to say

[Hyper]
00:18:389 (1) - remove NC, don't see why its needed here
00:19:495 (1) - ^
01:14:600 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - what a difficulty spike for a Hyper, consider toning down the jumps a bit
01:17:758 (3,4,5) - not stacked properly
01:51:389 (1) - instead of multiple repeats, having a triplet + single repeat slider works better here to complement the piano layer at the beginning

[Moecho's Insane]
hitsound in the beginning is too loud, something under 50% would be nicer
00:50:284 (1) - I understand you want to keep the visual symmetry here, but having a strong beat land on a slider end is really affecting the quality of gameplay here. You can consider a 3/4 slider followed by a circle at 00:50:916
01:27:705 (3) - again, a better approach here is to remove the repeat and have a circle for 01:27:863 since a strong vocal sound lands there
01:38:442 (3) - based on how you mapped out this section this should be a 1/4 slider as well
01:43:416 (1) - soft sample
01:55:652 (4) - should be two separate 1/4 sliders so the guitar at 01:55:802 is covered by a click action

[Another]
00:18:231 (4) - if you curve this a bit to the left it will flow more naturally on the stacked stream
00:41:126 (1,1,1) - quite difficult to read given the overall difficulty of this map, you should follow distance snap more proportionally here as I got confused the first time trying this. Also silencing the slider ends (including 00:42:863 (1)) would help a lot
01:31:337 (3,4,5,6) - this part flowed a bit weird, a more natural movement would have 01:31:652 (4) somewhere like the start of 01:32:284 (1)

[Lami's Extra]
00:16:021 (4,5,6) - I expect some sort of movement here due to the way the piano just goes phewwww, perhaps you can unstack it and create some form of linear flow
00:56:600 (5) - tbh a faster SV here will work wonders as it contrasts nicely with the compressed stream before
01:49:021 (3,5) - a blanket here would be nice

[Ultra]
how did I pass this on a sight read lmao
00:19:337 (3,4,5) - angle is a bit weird to play, having the circles a bit to the right feels better
00:31:179 (1,1,1) - I don't see the need for NC spam here, there are no SV changes and no other patterns are like this
00:40:179 (3) - this is a very minor beat, so based on the way spacing works to convey intensity, should be stacked under 00:40:179 (3)
00:56:916 (1) - now the kiai is fine with the 1/4 sliders on my end, but they only work well if you silence the slider ends (e.g. 20% volume) so the audio feedback is accurate to the music. May take some work but I can guarantee it will make the map much more fitting to the song
01:56:891 (1,2,3,1) - the straight line is nice, but I expected a larger spacing here considering it being the finale of the map

ok pm me after you fix stuff I guess

Shad0w1and

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Topic Starter

Shad0w1and March 21, 2017 at 10:17:06 AM UTC

jonathanlfj wrote:
[Hyper]
00:18:389 (1) - remove NC, don't see why its needed here 00:18:705 - deleted the NC on 00:18:705 - instead
00:19:495 (1) - ^
01:14:600 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - what a difficulty spike for a Hyper, consider toning down the jumps a bit Hyper to me is light insane, Another is light extra xc... I think it should be acceptable xc, I got Hard anyways xc
01:17:758 (3,4,5) - not stacked properly
01:51:389 (1) - instead of multiple repeats, having a triplet + single repeat slider works better here to complement the piano layer at the beginning I feel it is a over kill for this diff(or maybe just I am too weak tho xc)

[Another]
00:18:231 (4) - if you curve this a bit to the left it will flow more naturally on the stacked stream I actually think curve to the left will break the flow from previous pattern, so I instead changed the angle of 00:18:389 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - to make them catch the flow better
00:41:126 (1,1,1) - quite difficult to read given the overall difficulty of this map, you should follow distance snap more proportionally here as I got confused the first time trying this. Also silencing the slider ends (including 00:42:863 (1)) would help a lot did not change the slider ends tho, because I think the crash is strong enough to overwrite the feedback from the slider tail(I do not like to silent slider end anyways unless I have to)
01:31:337 (3,4,5,6) - this part flowed a bit weird, a more natural movement would have 01:31:652 (4) somewhere like the start of 01:32:284 (1)

[Ultra]
how did I pass this on a sight read lmao
00:19:337 (3,4,5) - angle is a bit weird to play, having the circles a bit to the right feels better due to the track switch (guitar-drum), I would like to keep the current flow cut idea, I think this should give a flow hint to the player
00:31:179 (1,1,1) - I don't see the need for NC spam here, there are no SV changes and no other patterns are like this
00:40:179 (3) - this is a very minor beat, so based on the way spacing works to convey intensity, should be stacked under 00:40:179 (3) I would like to be consistent because in my previous patterns, I highlighted vocal beat, regardless of the drum intensity(stop is another type of emphasis as well), 00:38:442 (3) - 00:39:074 (6) -
00:56:916 (1) - now the kiai is fine with the 1/4 sliders on my end, but they only work well if you silence the slider ends (e.g. 20% volume) so the audio feedback is accurate to the music. May take some work but I can guarantee it will make the map much more fitting to the song I am unsure about this, because I placed additions on every slider head for additional feedback, the default soft-hitnormal should not be much distracting at this volume. I played this diff with HT and the default volume does not distract me I think it should be fine tho xc
01:56:891 (1,2,3,1) - the straight line is nice, but I expected a larger spacing here considering it being the finale of the map

ok pm me after you fix stuff I guess

Last edited by Shad0w1and March 21, 2017 at 5:15:24 PM UTC, edited 1 times in total.

Shad0w1and

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Topic Starter

Shad0w1and March 21, 2017 at 1:40:21 PM UTC

jonathanlfj wrote:
[Flask's Advanced]
00:24:074 (1) - the end of this slider overlaps the progress bar and score display, consider lowering it a bit
00:30:074 (1) - a bit Nazi but this is not symmetrical; you can build it on the y-axis then just rotate it slightly clockwise
00:56:284 (1) - feels more impactful as a 1/2 repeat slider imo I personally prefer the current so it treat the red beat and blue beats the same
01:07:021 (4) - NC here instead of 01:07:337 (1); refer to 01:09:547 (1)
01:29:126 (4) - generally overlaps that cover more than half of the hitcircle is discouraged in a lower difficulty like this, you should adjust it so it overlaps similar to 00:21:547 (1)
01:42:389 (1,2) - should try to follow vocals here which is a much more dominant layer: https://puu.sh/uSs7a.jpg
01:53:442 (3) - the sequence of 1/2 is quite long here so you can separate it by making this a circle current is ok I think, leave that beat empty makes me sick xccccc

fixed flask's diff for him as he requested.

Doormat

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Doormat March 21, 2017 at 2:00:02 PM UTC

@lfj i stacked 00:40:337 (1) - on top of 00:39:863 (3) - like you suggested, and adjusted the following patterns. thanks for the mod!

https://drmt.s-ul.eu/pM1uWjnB

Lami

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Lami March 21, 2017 at 4:22:35 PM UTC

fixed all, ty mod

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 55889
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 74,11442,21547,31652,41758,51863,56916,67021,67968,77126,87231,97337,107442
DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
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TitleUnicode:Catch the Moment -Radio Edit ver.-
Artist:LiSA
ArtistUnicode:LiSA
Creator:Shad0w1and
Version:Lami's Extra
Source:劇場版 ソードアート・オンライン -オーディナル・スケール-
Tags:SWORD ART ONLINE The Movie - Ordinal Scale - SAO Lami intoon Kawaiwkyik Rizia Moecho Moeri Doormat Flask Kisses
BeatmapID:1232440
BeatmapSetID:570938

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:9
ApproachRate:9.5
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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KittyAdventure March 21, 2017 at 5:18:53 PM UTC

Metadata? Because i can't found a correct site :c
and maybe you can remove "-" from tags :>

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