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Nishikino Maki (CV. Pile) - START:DASH!! (Prepro Piano Mix)

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Nitrous
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Nitrous
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 8:57:12 PM

Artist: Nishikino Maki (CV. Pile)
Title: START:DASH!! (Prepro Piano Mix)
Source: Lovelive! School idol project
Tags: ラブライブ！solo live Notes of days arcwinolivirus
BPM: 150
Filesize: 13420kb
Play Time: 01:51
Difficulties Available:
  1. 4K DASH!! - 4Key (2.36 stars, 587 notes)
  2. 4K Easy - 4Key (1.44 stars, 292 notes)
  3. 4K Normal - 4Key (1.68 stars, 475 notes)
  4. Arcwin's 7K Easy - 7Key (1.11 stars, 281 notes)
  5. Arcwin's 7K Normal - 7Key (1.56 stars, 473 notes)
  6. Arcwin's 7K START!! - 7Key (2.29 stars, 669 notes)
Download: Nishikino Maki (CV. Pile) - START:DASH!! (Prepro Piano Mix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Remember where it all started? Kousaka Honoka tried becoming a school idol alongside Minami Kotori and Sonoda Umi. In the halls of Otonokizaka High, she heard a beautiful piano play by Nishikino Maki in the Music Room. She was entranced by the music that she had to beg for Maki to make a song for them. This is where it all began. This is also my first fully keysounded mania set.
7K Set by arcwinolivirus
Last edited by Nitrous , edited 24 times in total.
SurfChu85
322 posts
Joined June 2014
SurfChu85
Random mod
20:01 *-Nitrous is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1209781 Nishikino Maki (CV. Pile) - START:DASH!! (Prepo Piano Mix) [Hard]]
20:13 SurfChu85: first nitpick: too easy for a hard lol
20:13 *-Nitrous is away: dinner for a sec brb
20:16 SurfChu85: Format: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4
20:16 SurfChu85: 00:00:630 (630|3) - you can move this to 2, makes it more comfy
20:17 SurfChu85: 00:02:430 (2430|0) - similarly, this can go to 3
20:17 SurfChu85: now, you may wonder why, but if you listen to the sounds carefully, you'll see
20:20 SurfChu85: 00:03:830 - [http://puu.sh/tWMLF/e1ab6e2dc2.png you can repattern those this way if you want] 
20:20 SurfChu85: there are like lots of places where you can add LN's
20:20 -Nitrous: okay back
20:21 SurfChu85: if you hear a reverbrating sound from the piano, those are candidates for LN's
20:21 SurfChu85: there are lots in the song, don't be scare of placing them, especially for a hard lol
20:21 SurfChu85: *scared
20:22 -Nitrous: still don't get the reverb part
20:22 SurfChu85: hmm, try replacing 00:07:230 (7230|0) -  with a 1/1 LN
20:22 SurfChu85: then imagine that being a piano note
20:23 -Nitrous: oh
20:23 -Nitrous: I did that to the kiai section
20:23 SurfChu85: make it constant
20:23 -Nitrous: works differently in mania huh. Did that to emphasize the kiai
20:23 SurfChu85: do the same to 00:07:830 (7830|0) - 
20:23 SurfChu85: there are some that go ham on the chorus ye
20:24 SurfChu85: but for some songs, difficulty is maintained throughout
20:24 -Nitrous: okay
20:24 SurfChu85: maybe change up a few notes in the chorus for extra emphasis
20:25 SurfChu85: 00:08:830 (8830|0) - same as previous suggestion, but this time move to different column due to a change in pitch
20:26 SurfChu85: 00:09:430 - 00:10:430 - and so on should follow
20:26 SurfChu85: not only that they add to the difficulty, they add to emphasis as well
20:27 SurfChu85: it's better if you imagine yourself playing the piano actually lol
20:27 -Nitrous: okay
20:27 -Nitrous: btw where can I get piano sounds when (I don't know what to call it) hitsound?
20:28 SurfChu85: i think LordRaika has a pack for them
20:28 SurfChu85: ask the people in discord, maybe Protastic101 or Lenfried-
20:28 -Nitrous: then getting a music sheet would make it easy right?
20:28 SurfChu85: and yeah, we call em "keysounds"
20:28 -Nitrous: okay got it
20:28 SurfChu85: haven't tried keysounding so i can't really tell
20:29 -Nitrous: oh okay
20:29 SurfChu85: we usually call hitsounds as hitsounds still though
20:29 -Nitrous: since this is all piano, might aswell try it
20:29 SurfChu85: sounds good actually lol
20:29 SurfChu85: 00:20:030 - for this section, you can maintain the patterns here, maybe add a few LN's but not on all of them
20:30 SurfChu85: maybe every two beats or so
20:30 SurfChu85: 00:45:630 - good job on this section
20:31 -Nitrous: :D
20:31 SurfChu85: 00:49:630 (49630|0,49630|3) - these can be converted to 1/1 LN's
20:32 SurfChu85: 00:56:830 (56830|3) - convert this to a 1/1 LN and move 00:57:230 (57230|3) - to 3 so it can be consistent with the patterns along with it
20:33 SurfChu85: 00:57:430 (57430|2) - convert this to 1/1 LN in that case lol
20:34 SurfChu85: 01:00:430 - [http://puu.sh/tWNK7/2450f2cbaf.png ?]
20:35 -Nitrous: oh lol
20:35 -Nitrous: so many missed reverbs
20:35 SurfChu85: don't worry lol
20:35 SurfChu85: you're still new to this
20:35 SurfChu85: but i'm impressed with this already
20:36 SurfChu85: 01:02:830 - go ham on this section
20:36 -Nitrous: I inspected some SIF beatmaps and thats what happened
20:36 -Nitrous: also the reason for missed reverbs
20:36 -Nitrous: btw what do you mean by ham?
20:37 SurfChu85: 01:05:430 - convert one note to LN
20:37 SurfChu85: to go ham = ramp it up 
20:37 -Nitrous: make it more dense then
20:37 SurfChu85: 01:07:030 - same as earlier
20:38 SurfChu85: 01:08:630 - move one note to 4 and make it a LN
20:38 SurfChu85: just a few column placement corrections and some places to add emphasis and we're done lol
20:39 -Nitrous: nice
20:39 SurfChu85: you can easily follow the pattern from this point
20:39 -Nitrous: okay
20:40 SurfChu85: 01:09:230 (69230|1,69430|1,70830|2,71030|2) - reconsider column placement for some, these are a bit off compared to the rest of the chorus
20:40 SurfChu85: up to you on how you'll approach it
20:40 -Nitrous: okay
20:42 SurfChu85: 01:13:830 (73830|1) - to 4 and 01:14:030 (74030|0) - to 3
20:43 SurfChu85: 01:14:430 - http://puu.sh/tWOkO/4afc71e42d.jpg
20:43 SurfChu85: for that one, you're emphasizing both vocal and the piano
20:43 SurfChu85: which stands out the most in this section
20:43 -Nitrous: nice
20:44 SurfChu85: 01:16:030 - continue on with the LN conversions here
20:45 SurfChu85: 01:21:430 (81430|2) - you can move this to 4, but this is good already
20:46 SurfChu85: 01:21:430 (81430|2) - add a note here for extra gloss
20:46 SurfChu85: oh lol
20:46 SurfChu85: wrong timestamp
20:46 SurfChu85: 01:44:730 - there, add the note here
20:47 SurfChu85: if you have questions, just tell me
20:48 -Nitrous: okay I'll do some LN conversions and column fixes

The chart's structure actually looks good already, just needs a few bumps for it to be REALLY good. Good Luck!
Nitrous
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Nitrous

SurfChu85 wrote:

Random mod
20:01 *-Nitrous is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1209781 Nishikino Maki (CV. Pile) - START:DASH!! (Prepo Piano Mix) [Hard]]
20:13 SurfChu85: first nitpick: too easy for a hard lol
20:13 *-Nitrous is away: dinner for a sec brb
20:16 SurfChu85: Format: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4
20:16 SurfChu85: 00:00:630 (630|3) - you can move this to 2, makes it more comfy
20:17 SurfChu85: 00:02:430 (2430|0) - similarly, this can go to 3
20:17 SurfChu85: now, you may wonder why, but if you listen to the sounds carefully, you'll see
20:20 SurfChu85: 00:03:830 - [http://puu.sh/tWMLF/e1ab6e2dc2.png you can repattern those this way if you want] 
20:20 SurfChu85: there are like lots of places where you can add LN's
20:20 -Nitrous: okay back
20:21 SurfChu85: if you hear a reverbrating sound from the piano, those are candidates for LN's
20:21 SurfChu85: there are lots in the song, don't be scare of placing them, especially for a hard lol
20:21 SurfChu85: *scared
20:22 -Nitrous: still don't get the reverb part
20:22 SurfChu85: hmm, try replacing 00:07:230 (7230|0) -  with a 1/1 LN
20:22 SurfChu85: then imagine that being a piano note
20:23 -Nitrous: oh
20:23 -Nitrous: I did that to the kiai section
20:23 SurfChu85: make it constant
20:23 -Nitrous: works differently in mania huh. Did that to emphasize the kiai
20:23 SurfChu85: do the same to 00:07:830 (7830|0) - 
20:23 SurfChu85: there are some that go ham on the chorus ye
20:24 SurfChu85: but for some songs, difficulty is maintained throughout
20:24 -Nitrous: okay
20:24 SurfChu85: maybe change up a few notes in the chorus for extra emphasis
20:25 SurfChu85: 00:08:830 (8830|0) - same as previous suggestion, but this time move to different column due to a change in pitch
20:26 SurfChu85: 00:09:430 - 00:10:430 - and so on should follow
20:26 SurfChu85: not only that they add to the difficulty, they add to emphasis as well
20:27 SurfChu85: it's better if you imagine yourself playing the piano actually lol
20:27 -Nitrous: okay
20:27 -Nitrous: btw where can I get piano sounds when (I don't know what to call it) hitsound?
20:28 SurfChu85: i think LordRaika has a pack for them
20:28 SurfChu85: ask the people in discord, maybe Protastic101 or Lenfried-
20:28 -Nitrous: then getting a music sheet would make it easy right?
20:28 SurfChu85: and yeah, we call em "keysounds"
20:28 -Nitrous: okay got it
20:28 SurfChu85: haven't tried keysounding so i can't really tell
20:29 -Nitrous: oh okay
20:29 SurfChu85: we usually call hitsounds as hitsounds still though
20:29 -Nitrous: since this is all piano, might aswell try it
20:29 SurfChu85: sounds good actually lol
20:29 SurfChu85: 00:20:030 - for this section, you can maintain the patterns here, maybe add a few LN's but not on all of them
20:30 SurfChu85: maybe every two beats or so
20:30 SurfChu85: 00:45:630 - good job on this section
20:31 -Nitrous: :D
20:31 SurfChu85: 00:49:630 (49630|0,49630|3) - these can be converted to 1/1 LN's
20:32 SurfChu85: 00:56:830 (56830|3) - convert this to a 1/1 LN and move 00:57:230 (57230|3) - to 3 so it can be consistent with the patterns along with it
20:33 SurfChu85: 00:57:430 (57430|2) - convert this to 1/1 LN in that case lol
20:34 SurfChu85: 01:00:430 - [http://puu.sh/tWNK7/2450f2cbaf.png ?]
20:35 -Nitrous: oh lol
20:35 -Nitrous: so many missed reverbs
20:35 SurfChu85: don't worry lol
20:35 SurfChu85: you're still new to this
20:35 SurfChu85: but i'm impressed with this already
20:36 SurfChu85: 01:02:830 - go ham on this section
20:36 -Nitrous: I inspected some SIF beatmaps and thats what happened
20:36 -Nitrous: also the reason for missed reverbs
20:36 -Nitrous: btw what do you mean by ham?
20:37 SurfChu85: 01:05:430 - convert one note to LN
20:37 SurfChu85: to go ham = ramp it up 
20:37 -Nitrous: make it more dense then
20:37 SurfChu85: 01:07:030 - same as earlier
20:38 SurfChu85: 01:08:630 - move one note to 4 and make it a LN
20:38 SurfChu85: just a few column placement corrections and some places to add emphasis and we're done lol
20:39 -Nitrous: nice
20:39 SurfChu85: you can easily follow the pattern from this point
20:39 -Nitrous: okay
20:40 SurfChu85: 01:09:230 (69230|1,69430|1,70830|2,71030|2) - reconsider column placement for some, these are a bit off compared to the rest of the chorus
20:40 SurfChu85: up to you on how you'll approach it
20:40 -Nitrous: okay
20:42 SurfChu85: 01:13:830 (73830|1) - to 4 and 01:14:030 (74030|0) - to 3
20:43 SurfChu85: 01:14:430 - http://puu.sh/tWOkO/4afc71e42d.jpg
20:43 SurfChu85: for that one, you're emphasizing both vocal and the piano
20:43 SurfChu85: which stands out the most in this section
20:43 -Nitrous: nice
20:44 SurfChu85: 01:16:030 - continue on with the LN conversions here
20:45 SurfChu85: 01:21:430 (81430|2) - you can move this to 4, but this is good already
20:46 SurfChu85: 01:21:430 (81430|2) - add a note here for extra gloss
20:46 SurfChu85: oh lol
20:46 SurfChu85: wrong timestamp
20:46 SurfChu85: 01:44:730 - there, add the note here
20:47 SurfChu85: if you have questions, just tell me
20:48 -Nitrous: okay I'll do some LN conversions and column fixes

The chart's structure actually looks good already, just needs a few bumps for it to be REALLY good. Good Luck!
Still new to this tho
_Meep_
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_Meep_
go steal the tags from the ranked std ver
Nitrous
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Topic Starter
Nitrous
Finally done with the set
Raveille
787 posts
Joined February 2012
Raveille


I only can do 4K sadly, but I'll do my best teehee

|1|2|3|4|

Easy
00:00:830 (830|3,1430|2) - switch these 2 around for PR (starts at 3 then 4)
00:04:630 (4630|1) - to 3, then 00:05:030 (5030|2,5230|3) - move this one column to the left (starts at 2 then 3) for PR
00:10:030 (10030|2) - move this to 3 so there won't be much difficulty for easy players + symmetry
00:10:430 (10430|1) - if applied move this to 1
00:11:630 (11630|1,12030|2) - move this one column to the right
00:12:430 (12430|3) - move this to 3
00:19:030 (19030|2,19630|1) - move this one column to the left for symmetry
00:34:830 (34830|3,35230|2,35630|1,36030|0) - ctrl+h this for PR
00:56:830 (56830|1,57430|2) - ctrl+h this because 12 and 43 patterns may be hard to hit for beginners
01:37:430 (97430|1,98030|2) - ctrl+h this and move one column to the left
if applied, 01:37:230 (97230|0) - move this to 3

Normal
00:02:230 (2230|1,2330|2,2430|3,2830|2) - this should be one column to the left, 00:00:630 (630|0,730|1,830|2,1230|1) - and this should be one column to the right
if applied, 00:01:430 (1430|0) - move this to 2
00:34:830 (34830|2,35230|1,35630|0,36030|3,36030|2) - ctrl+this for PR
01:47:830 (107830|2,107930|1,108030|0) - ctrl+h for PR too xd

START
00:02:230 (2230|2,2330|1,2430|0,2830|1,3030|3,3030|2) - ctrl+h this for PR
00:08:030 - it is the hardest diff so try to have as much notes as possible, you missed out a bass note here
00:09:630 - ^
00:11:230 - ^
00:12:830 - ^
00:14:430 - ^
00:16:030 - ^
00:17:630 - ^
00:19:230 - ^
00:40:830 - you forgot your long LN on this part?
01:05:630 - bass note missing again
01:08:830 - ^
01:09:230 (69230|3) - move this to 1 or 2
01:12:030 - bass note missing again
01:13:630 - ^
01:16:830 - ^
01:18:430 - ^
01:20:030 - ^
01:21:630 - ^
01:23:230 - ^
01:24:830 - ^
01:26:430 - ^
01:28:030 - ^
01:32:830 - ^
01:34:430 - ^
01:35:030 (95030|2) - move this to 1 or smth
01:36:030 - bass note!!!
01:37:630 - ^
01:39:230 - ^
01:40:830 - ^
01:42:430 - ^

owo)b good luck
Crumpey
563 posts
Joined October 2013
Crumpey
as requested in Crumpey's modding queue

cols = 1|2|3|4

START!!, Normal
START!!(Mod)

00:47:830 (47830|2) - move note one to the left or remove alltogether, doesnt really need to be there
01:01:430 (61430|2,61430|0,61430|3,61430|1) - possibly make this a triple, its not that loud of a note
01:09:230 (69230|3,69430|3,69630|3,70030|3,70230|3,70630|3) - right side is very crouded consider moving some notes around to balance it out a bit better
01:34:630 (94630|2,94830|2,95030|2,95230|2) - odd ancher
01:48:030 - possibly another ln on col 1

Normal(Mod)
01:47:830 (107830|2,107930|1,108030|0) - control+H, Pitch relevency
A nice simple song, hard to find many problems in this

Note : personally i dont think any song should be mapped for difficulty, you seem to have shown that really well in your song, good job ma man, +1 star
Drum-Hitnormal
Beatmap Nominator
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Drum-Hitnormal
Arcwin's 7K DASH!!
00:37:430 you missing the left hand piano here? I can see it in the SB
00:40:630 ^
00:43:830 ^
00:45:430 ^
Nitrous
1,206 posts
Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
Nitrous

CrumpetFiddler wrote:

as requested in Crumpey's modding queue
Note : personally i dont think any song should be mapped for difficulty, you seem to have shown that really well in your song, good job ma man, +1 star
Thanks a lot! I've put effort in making my first mania-only set.

Raveille wrote:


I only can do 4K sadly, but I'll do my best teehee
owo)b good luck
Thanks a bunch too!

Applied all suggestions.
arcwinolivirus
1,588 posts
Joined October 2012
arcwinolivirus

dudehacker wrote:

Arcwin's 7K DASH!!
00:37:430 you missing the left hand piano here? I can see it in the SB
00:40:630 ^
00:43:830 ^
00:45:430 ^

Oh did not noticed those, thanks All applied~
Here's my update: https://puu.sh/vIYg5/6e878078c8.rar
Koibenii
267 posts
Joined March 2013
Koibenii
Hai o/ mod requested from #kudosu-farm :D

[General]
Would strongly suggest to check AIMod (Ctrl+Shift+A)
idk if you should remove "school idol" from the tags since it becomes redundant to the source u wu
Would also recommend unchecking the "Enable Countdown" portion
Would also suggest to untick widescreen support in the song setup unless you have a storyboard of some kind.

1|2|3|4|5|6|7
sibinki
[Arcwin's 7k Easy]
  • 01:05:430 (65430|4) - why not end this LN at 01:06:230? for the player to know when to release the hold xd
    01:08:630 (68630|5) - ^
    01:11:830 (71830|2) - ^
    basically all LNs in the kiai looool. just a suggestion. feel free to reject it. shitty mod huhu
[Arcwin's 7k Normal]
clean diff u wu
[Arcwin's 7k DASH!!]
other than those its all clean. sasuga arcwin-sama! huhu what a shitty mod i did

1|2|3|4
fowki
[4k Easy]
  • 01:03:230 (63230|1) - move to [3] for a one hand release
    01:08:630 (68630|3,68630|1) - swap columns for alternating LNs per measure
    01:10:230 (70230|3,70230|1) - swap columns too ^
    01:11:230 (71230|2) - move to [1] to follow the spaced doubles for this kind of sound
    01:26:630 (86630|0,86830|1,87030|0,87230|1,87230|2) - I would like to change this pattern into a mirror of these group of notes: 01:23:430 (83430|1,83630|2,83830|1,84030|3,84030|2) - basically it would look like this: http://puu.sh/w2GTd/dbc2cd80a5.png
    01:28:830 (88830|3) - why not end this LN at 01:30:430 for the player to know when to release the hold? xd
[4k Normal]
  • 00:22:830 (22830|1) - im thinking that this should be a double, following what you did at 00:22:030 (22030|3,22030|1,22430|0,22430|2)
    00:46:030 (46030|2) - move to [1] to avoid minijack at [3]
    00:47:030 (47030|2) - move to [4] then swap columns of these notes 00:47:430 (47430|1,47630|2,47830|1) for a smoother transition in between LNs
    00:48:830 (48830|1,48830|2,49430|3,49430|2,49630|0,49630|3,50230|1,50230|2) - pattern suggestion: https://puu.sh/w2Hkc/ef5c2d4dfa.png the minijack is excusable since that specific part of the song allows it and its better to do minijacks on one hand rather than on two.
    00:54:830 (54830|1) - move to [4] to prevent LN shield at [2]
    01:19:630 (79630|2) - move to [1]
    01:23:830 (83830|3) - ^
    01:44:630 (104630|0) - move to [3]
    01:48:030 (108030|3) - I haven't seen these LNs at the end of arcwin's diffs, imo its okay if its just a short note like this: http://puu.sh/w2HE8/95b3b6b70f.png
[4k START!!]
  • 00:09:630 (9630|2,9830|1) - swap columns
    00:14:430 (14430|1,14630|2,14830|1) - swap
    00:18:230 (18230|2) - move to [4]
    00:19:630 (19630|3) - move to [2] since the pitch is different
    00:46:230 (46230|0) - imo this should only be a short note, like this: https://puu.sh/w2HQ7/5b264bd988.png
    00:48:830 (48830|0) - would suggest to cut this LN at 00:49:230 and move 00:49:430 (49430|2) - to [1] so that it looks like a mirrored version of 00:52:030 (52030|3,52630|3,52630|0,52830|0,52830|3,53430|1,53430|2) - which would be more consistent
    00:57:230 (57230|3) - move to [3] to mirror 00:56:630 (56630|1,56830|0,56830|2)
    01:05:430 (65430|2,65630|2) - for these minijacks, i think you should move one of them to the other column since they are not of the same pitch
    01:17:630 - idk if its just me or that there something wrong with the keysounds in this part? it seems a little bit off.
    01:38:230 - missing note?
    01:42:830 (102830|2) - i think this LN is unnecessary. look at the diff spike at the left side xd
    01:43:820 - 01:44:430 - pattern suggestion: http://puu.sh/w2Ias/790f7565c3.png i've put the LN there to follow what you're mapping at the previous measures. feel free to reject xd

And there goes my mod. whew that was long. There are still many things at 4k dash that I don't agree with but my brain cant process things anymore :( I hope my mod helped in any way. Good luck in ranking this!! maki best sushi
Nitrous
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Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
Nitrous

JztCallMeRon wrote:

Hai o/ mod requested from #kudosu-farm :D

1|2|3|4

[4k Normal]
  1. 01:48:030 (108030|3) - I haven't seen these LNs at the end of arcwin's diffs, imo its okay if its just a short note like this: http://puu.sh/w2HE8/95b3b6b70f.png
| Keeping the LN

And there goes my mod. whew that was long. There are still many things at 4k dash that I don't agree with but my brain cant process things anymore :( I hope my mod helped in any way. Good luck in ranking this!! maki best sushi
Thanks for modding!
arcwinolivirus
1,588 posts
Joined October 2012
arcwinolivirus

JztCallMeRon wrote:

Hai o/ mod requested from #kudosu-farm :D

sibinki
[Arcwin's 7k Easy]
  • 01:05:430 (65430|4) - why not end this LN at 01:06:230? for the player to know when to release the hold xd
    01:08:630 (68630|5) - ^
    01:11:830 (71830|2) - ^
    basically all LNs in the kiai looool. just a suggestion. feel free to reject it. the release is exactly at the end of the vocal sound, extending the LN would be quite awkward but I get your point of making it more comfortable. Sorry. shitty mod huhu
[Arcwin's 7k Normal]
clean diff u wu thanks! \o/
[Arcwin's 7k DASH!!]
  • 00:08:230 (8230|6,8430|5,8430|2) - pattern suggestion: http://puu.sh/w2G5F/c987411f81.png just to be consistent with 00:09:630 (9630|3,9830|4,10030|1,10030|0) nice suggestion! re-polished some patterns on other parts as well.
other than those its all clean. sasuga arcwin-sama! thanks! huhu what a shitty mod i did

maki best sushi

Thank you so much for the mod! much appreciated :oops:
Here's my update:
https://puu.sh/w4rJD/2ffa558d9c.rar
Umo-
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Umo-
NM req from imtdb1's modding queue
1|2|3|4
I'm Pretty sure that the offset is not -770 so check that in every difficulty as they all have the same problem with that
I will only mod the hardest difficulty because I dont have much time
4K START!!
00:01:430 (1430|3) - I would suggest to move that note to 2nd column because the piano sound changes
00:03:830 (3830|1) - move to 4 for the balance
00:29:630 (29630|3) - move to 2
00:46:630 - imo 3 note chord does not fit there
01:06:830 (66830|2) - move to 4 to avoid jackhammer
01:23:230 (623230|4) - move to 1
01:24:630 (624530|3) - move to 2
01:30:430 - meybe replace those 4 note chord with 2 short LN's like this?
Good Luck! :)
Nitrous
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Topic Starter
Nitrous
Sorry I didn't notice this mod sooner xd

imtdb1 wrote:

NM req from imtdb1's modding queue
1|2|3|4
I'm Pretty sure that the offset is not -770 so check that in every difficulty as they all have the same problem with that
I will only mod the hardest difficulty because I dont have much time
[4K START!!]
01:30:430 - meybe replace those 4 note chord with 2 short LN's like this?
| 4 note chord sounds more appropriate for this section since after that is nothing. Also gives emphasis in this part.
Good Luck! :)
Thanks for modding!
Proxian
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Proxian
As requested from my modding queue:
0|1|2|3

4K DASH!!
00:29:430 (29430|2) - Move this to column 3 for fingerbalance and for making my brain happy
00:46:230 - Make this a double here, the note before was a double and it's the same sound. I suggest putting one note on 0 and another on 3.
00:49:430 (49430|1) - Move this to column 0 to stick with the pattern of the one after, or vice versa.
00:58:230 (58230|1) - ^ (Maybe)
01:30:430 - I think 4 notes is too much emphasis, maybe go down to 3

4K Normal
00:23:030 (23030|2) - I suggest moving to column 0. This note and the one after it are different, so they don't need to be in the same column.
00:49:430 (49430|2,49430|3,52630|2,52630|2,52630|1) - These notes don't have to be doubles
01:01:430 (61430|3) - This one shouldn't be stacked with the last one.
That's all I could find, GJ!

4K Easy
Couldn't find anything wrong, GJ and sry

It must've took you forever to keysound! I don't have that kind of patience. :?
Overall very well-made map! I can see the reasoning behind every note placed.
GL for ranking!
Nitrous
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Nitrous

Proxian wrote:

As requested from my modding queue:

It must've took you forever to keysound! I don't have that kind of patience. :?
Overall very well-made map! I can see the reasoning behind every note placed.
GL for ranking!
Thanks for the mod and appreciation! I applied all of your suggestions.
Incendent
182 posts
Joined April 2015
Incendent
Hey, sorry it took so long, Your map has earned my star :)

I don't really have anything to add, you have a rankable map in my opinion! :D

Sorry I don't have anything to help you out :(
Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
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Xinnoh
01:47:830 (107830|1,107930|2,108030|0,108030|3) - Use 1/6 snapping here. Should be used on top diffs, maybe normal

EZ
00:13:230 (13230|2) - Can move to 1 for balance
00:45:630 (45630|0) - Add a note to 1 since double was used on all white ticks before.
00:47:830 (47830|0,48830|3) - ctrl-h these two for PR
01:11:030 (71030|1) - Move to a different lane, no other LNs have a note after it
01:22:830 (82830|2) - I'd really suggest not using 1/2 like this on EZ, there's not much reason to do it since easy diffs are meant to be... easy

NM
00:20:030 (20030|2) - just saying but comparing this with 00:26:430 (26430|2) - they have a completely different feel to play.
00:42:030 (42030|0) - It's less audible, but there's definitely a low piano here. Should be mapped regardless that it's quieter.
01:03:230 (63230|3) - 01:04:830 (64830|1) - I can't figure out why these LNs are longer than the other ones when there's nothing too strong on them.
01:03:230 (63230|2) - triggered that these aren't same lane when 01:16:030 (76030|2) - 01:32:030 (92030|2) - are
01:17:230 (77230|3) - Missing note
01:38:030 (98030|0) - ^
01:42:830 (102830|3) - ^
01:27:230 (87230|1,87230|2,87630|2,87830|1,87830|0,88230|1) - Can you make this pattern so it uses lane 4, seems heavy on left side

HD
00:16:630 (16630|2) - Could move to 1 for note balance
00:27:630 (27630|3) - For pretty much the entire section, not sure if these chords are paired up correctly. The pairs you used are following the offbeat rather than the downbeat, which doesn't make much sense for this song since all major sounds (ie vocals) fall on the downbeats.
00:32:830 (32830|3,32830|1) - Example of the thing above, it has a low piano sound, but the pattern is identical to 00:32:430 (32430|3,32430|1) - , which is different.
00:27:630 (27630|3,28030|3) - Another example, strong vocal but no change
tldr the lanes being used should change on downbeats, not offbeats
00:42:030 (42030|1) - Unmapped piano on red-tick, weird since it's mapped everywhere else
00:46:230 (46230|0) - Move to lane 1, give better emphasis to downbeat. Although you might have to change some of the patterns at 00:44:430 (44430|1,44830|0) - so they're different to give that part a stronger emphasis.
00:52:030 (52030|3,52630|3,52830|3) - Move to lane 3 so it's different to 00:49:430 (49430|3) - since different pitch
00:56:830 (56830|0) - Since 00:55:230 (55230|0) - was 2/1, this should also be 2/1 (but not in lane 1 else it gets overused)
01:03:230 (63230|0) - Not sure if this should be just 1/1 since none of the others are
Couple inconsistencies on how kiai is done, At 01:04:630 (64630|3) - & 01:11:030 (71030|1) - there's a jack, but at 01:06:230 (66230|0,66430|1) - & 01:07:830 (67830|2) - there's none. Make these consistent, either one is fine.
01:12:430 (72430|1,72630|2) - Could move these two left a lane, more spacing for larger pitch change
01:16:630 (76630|3,76830|3) - It seems that pretty much all of the double taps are in this lane, can you move some to the other lanes?
01:17:230 (77230|3) - Missing note on red tick
01:19:630 (79630|2,79830|2,80030|2) - Using three 1/2s in a row doesn't feel that good to play tbh, I wouldn't suggest keeping them since they kind of mess with rhythm
01:36:830 (96830|3) - what happened to lane 1 it's empty lol
01:42:830 (102830|1,103230|1) - again don't undermap for hardest diff on red tick
01:44:030 (104030|0) - Should add LN since was also used at 01:37:430 (97430|1) -
Nitrous
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Nitrous
Thanks for modding! It seems you have concerns in my Hard difficulty, to clear things up:
I was primarily focused on the piano in the background hence the piano key sounds. The vocals are flat out ignored for the play to be more unique and as if you are actually playing a piano. Hope you understand!
Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
1,950 posts
Joined April 2014
Xinnoh
i never asked you to specifically map vocal anywhere lol
some piano parts are stronger by nature because they have vocal on them
Nitrous
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Joined October 2015
Topic Starter
Nitrous

Sinnoh wrote:

i never asked you to specifically map vocal anywhere lol
some piano parts are stronger by nature because they have vocal on them
My point still stands. Listening to the piano only, it doesn't make a difference.
Kawawa
Kawawa
Hello! As a request.
I'm so sorry I judged it still needs to be improved.
And There are important issues here. uwu

Since I already made a ranked map with key-sound,
so I understand what is the problem by experience.

※ Overlapped Hitsounds.
I really don't recommend you to overlap same piano sounds.
They actually do not have two chords. It is just overlapped. And it is not really emphasized, nothing.
Even If I considering it some case, I think It's done unreasonably.

1. As an example(Overlapped Single only):: http://puu.sh/x2yJk/723c060efd.jpg http://puu.sh/x2yNs/10c24d57b3.jpg
It's sometimes too loud If It's a high pitch. especially https://puu.sh/x2zIO/430fefef4f.jpg

2. As an example(Overlapped with other chord):: https://puu.sh/x2zKS/b2f6045455.jpg https://puu.sh/x2zUq/6b4f6d1287.jpg
It is not a dissonance, but It's bad. because the high pitch is painted by overlapped low pitch.

(I could not point all section. It's too much)

+ https://puu.sh/x2A0A/6cede67147.jpg
I really don't think at here "F#5S_GB5S + F#6S_Gb6S"
It should be F#5S_Gb5S_s only, It's same simliar structure with https://puu.sh/x2A5t/1f11c966db.jpg
If you want to keep that #6 there, then you have to consider the chords on the around.

Try to turn on the effect volume only after all turn down.
And hear them in the edit, then you can notice what I said.

I just gave an example from the 7K, It means all difficulties are must be fixed what I pointed.
All difficulties must be fixed, and check the hitsound sample list too.
(you can see them with tab key) https://puu.sh/x2zdd/e88fe3a8f6.png
※ Feedback for the chart.
It's normally based on piano only,
If the chart can express the each pitch to each column as possible, It would be better than now.

1. As an example:: https://puu.sh/x2AAK/0a2d91de10.jpg
At least everyone know they're same pitch.

2. As an example:: https://puu.sh/x2AFJ/14296ac242.jpg
It actually follows as a high pitch, It would be better If you make it reverse.

Expression is free, but in my opinion It's hard to accept to me those random pattern at the example 1.
It's not must, just a feedback.

I think at least it can be changed in a better way how it make feel better when play. up to you!
Good luck! :)
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