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Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-02-27T00:58:52+00:00

changed NC's in easy, thanks!

mindmaster107

710 posts

Joined August 2016

mindmaster107 2017-02-27T01:59:00+00:00

[Everlasting]
Quick summary, when someone leaves a slider, the location of the next object must follow. Change the direction of the exits to match this, as I spot some attempt to have circular flow, which is not being maintained throughout the map.
00:39:093 (2,3) - Jump seems too big.
00:45:023 (2,3) - Align the slider to the jump
00:51:477 (4,5) - Undermapping the drum notes. This section is leading into the kiai, which justifies it being difficult.
01:15:107 (4) - This should match 01:14:096 (1) as they are both cymbals.
01:25:556 (3,4,5) - This has awkward movement. Maybe have it be a triangle.
01:26:567 (2,3) - The angle leaving the slider is too sharp.
01:32:298 (4) - Flip this slider, to match rotation.
01:32:972 (1,2,3,4) - Revise this whole section. The sliders make the movement really awkward.
01:45:949 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - These do not line up. rotate the stream.
01:52:691 (2,3) - Line the slider up to the jump.
02:04:320 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - The streams do not match the slider shapes.

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-02-27T02:06:45+00:00

mindmaster107 wrote:
[Everlasting]
Quick summary, when someone leaves a slider, the location of the next object must follow. Change the direction of the exits to match this, as I spot some attempt to have circular flow, which is not being maintained throughout the map. ok
00:39:093 (2,3) - Jump seems too big. really? i feel like it fits the intensity of the song. ill get more opinions on it, and if it gets mroe mentions ill do something about it
00:45:023 (2,3) - Align the slider to the jump why? i wanted to create a sort of awkward flow here for emphasis
00:51:477 (4,5) - Undermapping the drum notes. This section is leading into the kiai, which justifies it being difficult. it's not that strong though, and i want to map more to the song rather than for pp purposes xd
01:15:107 (4) - This should match 01:14:096 (1) as they are both cymbals. it cymbalizes change in the song's intensity
01:25:556 (3,4,5) - This has awkward movement. Maybe have it be a triangle. using bad flow for emphasis
01:26:567 (2,3) - The angle leaving the slider is too sharp. sharp flow is used for emphasis of the vocals here
01:32:298 (4) - Flip this slider, to match rotation. im using consistent rotations of 30 degrees, dont want to change this
01:32:972 (1,2,3,4) - Revise this whole section. The sliders make the movement really awkward. Have a lot structured around it already, gonna keep.
01:45:949 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - These do not line up. rotate the stream. no reason to, i like to map ugly things like this because it matches my personality
01:52:691 (2,3) - Line the slider up to the jump. bad flow for emphasis
02:04:320 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - The streams do not match the slider shapes. same reason as above

sorry mod wasnt helpful enuf no kudos

Last edited by Plaudible 2017-02-27T03:14:45+00:00, edited 4 times in total.

My Angel RangE

1,055 posts

Joined April 2015

My Angel RangE 2017-02-27T02:27:27+00:00

From Team Symphony Modding Queue

Easy

00:54:117 (1) - Remove NC.
00:57:769 (1,2) - DS error
01:02:986 (1) - Remove NC too.
01:04:030 (3) - add NC
01:05:073 (1) - remove NC.
01:25:943 (4) - add NC.
01:28:029 (1) - remove NC

Anxient's Hard

00:09:508 (4) - This Tail basket error
00:21:117 (1) - ^ this too.
00:49:291 - This used Green line?
01:16:551 - Not used Green Line
01:18:638 - ^ too.
01:28:551 - ^

Pentori's Insane

00:37:421 (3) ~ 00:43:682 (3) - Shift speed NC ?
01:17:595 (1,2,3,4) - Body and tail DS different

well..

not found ..

Good luck!

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-02-27T03:16:21+00:00

Fixed DS error and applied all NC changes, thanks angel ^^

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-02-27T13:57:16+00:00

CrystilonZ wrote:
Hey i'm back for moar cuz hard is super cool - i love you too
no kds on this post

Anxient's Hard
00:01:421 (1,2) - your rhythm selection right here is the best <3 don't let anyone tell you otherwise - omo
00:11:204 (2) - and 00:11:725 (4) - should be stacked to the tail instead i guess (to the 00:10:812 (1) - 's tail and 00:11:334 (3) - 's tail respectively) for nazi consistency. Besides, it'd be pretty cool to emphasize the vocal by the cursor movement at 00:11:334 (3) - and 00:11:856 (1) - i was trying to focus more on the drum snares for this one, but i guess its better to get more consistent rather than haphazard stacking on random places amirite? fixed.
00:33:508 (3) - pretty much because of the same reasons above. Did you notice that you never stack to the sliderhead in this part even once? - same tbh. fixed
00:48:899 (1) - why not three circles tho </3 it isn't too hard. tbh this slider kills it - coz you cant bounce with 3 hitcircles. boobs and butts are jiggly. i cant believe i just said that. im gonna get muted now /shrug
00:37:943 (1) - and 00:42:117 (1) - : ye i know this is for the variation thingy but i still want you to reconsider tho. The music is virtually same across the 6 sets so it kinda makes sense that they are all mapped with the same rhythm for emphasis and stuff. These sliders make me sad orz - y-YOURE RIGHT
00:57:769 (1) - hey where does the finish go? I'm pretty sure i can hear cymbals - cymbals got sucked away by vacuum ass. turned back time to fix that
01:06:117 (1) - actually something like 01:10:291 (1) - is much better because the vocals feel *connected* here. The 1/1 lull right here makes me feel a bit weird - remapped a bit/
01:15:508 (5) - something like this might be better to highlight the music and vocal break here - wokey
01:20:725 (1) - hey did you notice this is the only jump in the last bit here ? xd - feels super random - 00:00:638 (2,3) - :thinking: but i made another jump to reflect this part 00:14:725 (3,1) - so its all good rigth?

Kaitjuh wrote:
Anxient's Hard
00:00:378 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe move this pattern a little bit downward to avoid overlap with hp bar. - heres to hoping that itll be enough
00:02:204 - Could you explain why you aren't mapping these xd? - i feel like mapping the drums only would bring much more impact than trying to map everything. plus itll make the map feel unnecessarily crowded.
01:00:899 (1,2,3,4) - this is somehow quite awkward to play, Maybe try Ctr+G'ing the rhythm? - nah. doesnt feel that weird to play to me
01:26:725 (3,1) - Maybe try shortening the first slider so you can map the strong sound with something clickable? - i agree!

thanks yall http://puu.sh/umaFL/b4e49748f0.osu

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-02-27T18:01:23+00:00

Hobbes's Normal
00:03:508 (3) - maybe u wanna NC here ye
00:09:769 (1,2,3,4) - 00:13:943 (1,2,3,4) - sound didn't change but rhythm. can i know reason? variety, didnt feel the need to do the same thing twice
00:36:377 (5,6) - this part is too hard with high bpm, how about making it to reverse 1/2 mm I think its okay personally. might nerf later with more feedback
00:53:595 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - nice lol

fixed @_orange

http://pastebin.com/QWQLvecV

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-02-28T02:44:15+00:00

Vanillas wrote:
Hi Plaudible~
Mod
Polka's Light Insane
00:27:769 (2,3) - nomal-hitwhistle may sound better. That's what I have.
00:40:030 (1) - Ctrl + J ? I prefer the bouncy flow it creates.
01:16:030 (2) - add a slider with lower sv to follow vocal ? I prefer a spinner here, as it's held too long for a slider without it getting boring.
01:16:551 add a note here or move spinner here. Woops. Done.
01:06:638 (2) - stack with 01:06:899 (1) - to make it flow ? Too big of a jump.

Left wrote:
[Polka's Light Insane]
00:29:856 (2,3) - it looks like 1/2 gap, considering your 00:20:595 (2,3) - DS use https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7403046 can try this kind? Fixed it in a different way.

_orange wrote:
[Polka's Light Insane]
00:13:682 (3) - Ctrl J and move back to original spot, that would make it play a bit better maybe Ruins flow for 00:13:682 (3,1) - . No thanks.
00:21:508 (2) - Flip this horizontally so it follows the flow better okay.
00:31:943 (2,3,4) - Why not make this a triangle and rotate 120 degrees from the last slider? It is a triangle ono
01:14:464 (1) - Ctrl J would look and flow better imo ok
01:16:617 (1) - Spinner should start on the white tick fixed.

_Meep_ wrote:
just

no

just

stfu .u. b

Kaitjuh wrote:
Polka's Light Insane
00:05:334 (2) - this is quite awkward since this almost has the same spacing as your 1/2's. I strongly recommend increasing the spacing here. I think it's okay, and insane players should be able to pick up on DS changes.
00:09:247 (3) - double white anchor, not sure if intentional yop.
00:29:856 (2,3) - the distance here could also be further apart for better rhythm representation. fixed.

womp

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Last edited by polka 2017-03-01T02:22:06+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

mindmaster107

710 posts

Joined August 2016

mindmaster107 2017-02-28T09:09:30+00:00

Plaudible wrote:
mindmaster107 wrote:
[Everlasting]
Quick summary, when someone leaves a slider, the location of the next object must follow. Change the direction of the exits to match this, as I spot some attempt to have circular flow, which is not being maintained throughout the map. ok
00:39:093 (2,3) - Jump seems too big. really? i feel like it fits the intensity of the song. ill get more opinions on it, and if it gets mroe mentions ill do something about it
00:45:023 (2,3) - Align the slider to the jump why? i wanted to create a sort of awkward flow here for emphasis
00:51:477 (4,5) - Undermapping the drum notes. This section is leading into the kiai, which justifies it being difficult. it's not that strong though, and i want to map more to the song rather than for pp purposes xd
01:15:107 (4) - This should match 01:14:096 (1) as they are both cymbals. it cymbalizes change in the song's intensity
01:25:556 (3,4,5) - This has awkward movement. Maybe have it be a triangle. using bad flow for emphasis
01:26:567 (2,3) - The angle leaving the slider is too sharp. sharp flow is used for emphasis of the vocals here
01:32:298 (4) - Flip this slider, to match rotation. im using consistent rotations of 30 degrees, dont want to change this
01:32:972 (1,2,3,4) - Revise this whole section. The sliders make the movement really awkward. Have a lot structured around it already, gonna keep.
01:45:949 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - These do not line up. rotate the stream. no reason to, i like to map ugly things like this because it matches my personality
01:52:691 (2,3) - Line the slider up to the jump. bad flow for emphasis
02:04:320 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - The streams do not match the slider shapes. same reason as above
sorry mod wasnt helpful enuf no kudos

Wow sorry I didn't realize it was wrong map XD.

mindmaster107

710 posts

Joined August 2016

mindmaster107 2017-02-28T09:40:40+00:00

This time it is your mapset XD

[Counter Extra]
00:14:204 (2,3) - This shares the same sound as 00:14:464 (4) so I recommend to change it to it to be consistent with sounds, and 3 slider patterns like 00:12:377 (3,4,1)
00:25:943 (6) - This doesn't have a snare sound like 00:26:204 (7) and 00:25:682 (5) and should be made different.
00:41:073 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Maybe have the slider shapes match up with 00:36:899 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) as they are very similar lines.
00:49:421 (1) - 01:04:030 (1) - These would feel great starting with a triple. Since you hardly use triples, them being present in the kiai will make it stand out. You did it for 00:57:638 (7,8,1) and I thought it was great!
01:19:160 (3,4) - 01:21:247 (3,4) - Why are they different shapes? They are the same sound. 01:21:769 (1,2,3) makes sense as it is slightly different sounds. Some of the sliders here feel off, so maybe touch up on slider shape consistency and spacing. I am a bit too deaf to spot the ones other than these.

Plaudible

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Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-02-28T13:45:08+00:00

XDDD no worries, had a laugh. Will edit in a response tonight!

EDIT:

mindmaster107 wrote:
This time it is your mapset XD \:D/

[Counter Extra]
00:14:204 (2,3) - This shares the same sound as 00:14:464 (4) so I recommend to change it to it to be consistent with sounds, and 3 slider patterns like 00:12:377 (3,4,1) I see what you mean, but I don't do this anywhere in the map really, and it'd stick out and be awkward. my slider patterns are based on 2s.
00:25:943 (6) - This doesn't have a snare sound like 00:26:204 (7) and 00:25:682 (5) and should be made different. not quite sure i understand this, but i've done this based on vocal emphasis before to make sure i'm still getting note emphasis where i want it, so i had to use a circle after 1/1 o-o;
00:41:073 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Maybe have the slider shapes match up with 00:36:899 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) as they are very similar lines. ahhh that's a bit repetitive though, no? they're very similar and play essentially the same, i dont see a need to
00:49:421 (1) - 01:04:030 (1) - These would feel great starting with a triple. Since you hardly use triples, them being present in the kiai will make it stand out. You did it for 00:57:638 (7,8,1) and I thought it was great! they dont exist in the song though, where i mapped them they do, the rest would be overmapping >_<
01:19:160 (3,4) - 01:21:247 (3,4) - Why are they different shapes? They are the same sound. 01:21:769 (1,2,3) makes sense as it is slightly different sounds. Some of the sliders here feel off, so maybe touch up on slider shape consistency and spacing. I am a bit too deaf to spot the ones other than these. adjusted a bit

thanks ^^

Last edited by Plaudible 2017-03-01T02:40:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kaitjuh

856 posts

Joined December 2012

Kaitjuh 2017-02-28T13:49:55+00:00

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Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-03-01T07:24:41+00:00

fixed stuff from kaitjuh
sry RangE but idk wat u mean

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DeletedUser_423548

DeletedUser_423548 2017-03-02T14:32:26+00:00

From Queue

[General]

I think that I do not need the title TV size
Let's unify the end of songs for Difficulty other than GD
01:29:073 - or 01:28:551 -

[Easy]

00:00:378 (1) - remove clap
Because the sound of 00:01:421 (1) - is more conspicuous
00:04:812 - 00:05:073 - remove finish
The sound of finish only sounds first
00:08:986 - 00:09:247 - ^
00:28:030 (4) - Additions Normal whistle
I can only hear the sound of a Normal whistle
00:45:247 - Add finish
01:25:943 (1) - remove NC
01:26:986 (2) - Why not attach NC?
00:18:117 (1) - Same as the first
01:28:029 (3) - ^

Normal & Hard I'm not good at it.

[Polka's Light Insane]

00:09:247 (3) - What is this slider?
00:29:464 (1) - ^

I had doubts that I was making Extra three alone.
Even though mapping has changed, I do not think Extra of the same person is very fun.

Good luck!

Mykaterasu

584 posts

Joined March 2014

Mykaterasu 2017-03-02T18:08:28+00:00

Greetings from my NM Queue. Slider-shapes Myka here to complain about your sliders.

It begins

[Easy]

00:04:551 (4,4) - Repeating sliders this short aren't always the best idea in an Easy because the actual rhythm is very ambiguous for a beginner to read. Going for a 2/1 slider might be better.
00:12:899 (4,1) - Going against flow is very taboo in lower difficulties without a very explicit reason like some sort of very special sound, which is definitely not present here.
00:28:030 (4) - You can actually accentuate the whistle here by just putting removing this. Silence acts as a very good emphasis tool in lower diffs.
00:36:899 (1,2,3) - I love how you're using the hard-points to express the tone change, but at 00:40:030 (4) - the vocals that are sung here aren't under the same filter as the previous three. I would consider using just a normal curved slider instead of a hard-point slider. Same goes for 00:44:204 (4) - .
00:53:073 (2) - Why the one of a kind slidershape here? What are you emphasising here.
01:16:551 (4) - I'm usually ok with shapes like these, but I'm against this use here because the hardpoint isn't used for any effect. Nothing special happens here 01:17:073 - , it's all just the same note held over. A circular slider would be more appropriate.
01:21:769 (4,1) - The difference in curvature is stark and very noticeable. Please make them match.

[Counter Extra]

I have to be real with you here. Saying this gimmick is used "consistantly" is a stretch. The practicality and understanding of the gimmick is far from appropriate. Simply put, I feel like you've built this map with the gimmick in mind as opposed to building the map for the gimmick. Maps should expose, develop and conclude all themes and that includes gimmicks. (Yes, I know it's recapitulation, sue me for the misrepresentation of sonata form). It's almost like you've forgone these stages in place of just putting the gimmick in a map that doesn't support it. I'll elaborate. Welcome to wall of text land. I can't format this like a normal list. I'm sorry.

> Exposition

A gimmick needs to be introduced in an intuitive and fair way. A player will not know what the gimmick is before the map begins. It is the job of the mapper to slowly include the themes of a gimmick in a way that communicates that the map is abnormal, and that the player will look out for the themes displayed here.

I'm sure you're aware of the GRANRODEO - Can Do (TV Size) Mapset. Look at the beginning of the selected difficulty in particular, which has the same gimmick as your map. A circle into a neat stack, followed by simple rhythms of overlapping 1/2 sliders. Minimal movement, and low rhythm intensity. This says "You're playing a map that is hard to read. Have something that is considered slightly abnormal but still readable." On your map, it dives straight into a pattern of just 1/2 circles 00:00:378 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Which is pretty much as rhythmically intensive you can get on this map. Of course it's supposed to be hard, but no player is prepared for that at the very beginning of the map. If it were 4 overlapped 1/2 sliders, it would be more acceptable. 00:01:421 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These patterns are more applicable for an exposition, but the first circles just aren't appropriate, end of.

> Development

A gimmick needs to be used in multiple interesting ways and multiple times to take root as the main theme. It should be explored and evolve in an intuitive way, while still being playable and enjoyable. The development of these themes therefore needs to be congruent and comprehensive.

You said in your explanation that flow was one of the things that you experimented with here, but honestly that's just not the case. If you change the map's AR to something like 9.5 or higher to remove the reading gimmick and play it, the map has pretty much exclusively generic flow save a couple instances closer to the end. Take the same diff mentioned earlier from monstrata's set and give it the same treatment, and it's still abnormal. The reason is because your map doesn't really develop. The theme of "sometimes the circles, sliderends or sliderheads overlap previous or future circles, sliderends or sliderheads" is throughout and usually ends up in creating circular flow one way or another. You don't experiment with stacked circles, you break your own patterns, you make patterns and then forget them. The result just ends up looking messy.

00:04:551 (1,2,3) - Pattern revolves around stacking a slider end over a previous slider head. 00:05:334 (4) - Pattern broken.
00:08:725 (1,2,3,4) - Same rhythm pattern as before - revolves around stacking slider ends over previous slider ends instead for some reason. Pattern remains unbroken.
00:27:769 (1,1) - 00:27:769 (1,1) - doesn't stack or do anything related to the theme. And if this sliderart is supposed to be a whistle, the shape is a little... off. It's not instantly recognisable as one. This applies to all the diffs that has this shape.
00:11:856 (1,2) - we don't see a stack pattern with this rhythm again... ever.
00:10:291 (3,4) - 4 beats away from each other. Nice a bit of repetition in the slider shape and positioning exactly 1 measure away from each other. This could be interesting... 00:17:464 (4,1) - Wait hold on now it's 1 1/2 beats away from each other, why did they get closer together? Wow, maybe the "exactly overlapping 1/2 slider" theme is going to develop by creeping closer and closer together as the song ramps up for the chorus... Except no. We never see it again.
00:35:334 (3,4) - Oh cool so you are using stacked circles as a theme... only once in the entire map...

The only consistent aspect of this map is the the flowing rotated patterns 00:10:291 (3,4) - 00:11:334 (4,5) - 00:12:377 (3,4) - etc...
If they're the only thing that the map has throughout, doesn't that make good flow a theme instead of abnormal flow? Do you get my point yet?

> Conclusion

For the climax of the song, you want to bring together the very best of your experimentation with your theme. Drive the gimmick home with the most enjoyable, attractive or just interesting pattern you've made and show people that this gimmick you've made isn't just for show, this style of mapping can be fun and taken seriously.

00:49:421 (1,2,3) - Ok. We've got rotational flow now. I repeat my flow statement earlier, but maybe this is a section where 120 degree rotational flow is really important. In that instance I'd expect a lot of sliders to be arranged like this. 00:50:204 (4,1) - and we broke it already, we don't return to anything vastly similar to rotational flow until 00:58:812 (1) - ...
Speaking of 00:58:812 (1) - Oh look, a new theme a whole minute in. This 120 degree overlapping pattern's really pretty, I wanna see more of it. Except here 01:00:899 (1,2,3) - it's applied to a different rhythm... I can understand it, but you didn't even try to make them overlap in a similar way when compared to last time. 01:06:117 (1,2,3) - And now it's back to the rhythm shown in the exposition and repeated here 01:10:291 (1,2,3,4) - . So shouldn't all the other rhythms with sliders be circular in shape then? I'm confused. Is this a visual theme or just a thing you threw in.
Yet another new theme 01:05:073 (1,2) - one minute in? This stack type hasn't been used before, and it's in the most intense section of the piece. After that it keeps happening 01:07:421 (2,3) - , 01:11:595 (2,3) - . Why is it here if you haven't done this jump distance and visual theme before?
00:54:117 (3) - Why doesn't the sliderend stack here? or 00:55:160 (3) - or 00:56:204 (3) - ? I thought overlapping was a part of your theme.
00:56:204 (3) - Oh man using red anchors over slider-ends is an interesting topic except oh wait it's one of a kind again.

The map isn't really worth taking a decent look at from a modding perspective cause I honestly think so much of it has to be remapped with a better mindset. Hopefully from this map you'll have enough experience with the gimmick to apply it correctly and produce something better.

[Outfighter Extra]

Same gimmick speech as above, but this one is generally more salvageable so it gets a real mod this time.
Just know that the more you abuse short sliders, the less impact you give them. Because of that, a quick list of short sliders that I believe should be definitely converted into circles for contrast.

00:13:682 (5,6) -
00:17:204 (2) -
00:17:986 (3) -
00:36:247 (2,2,2) -
00:57:638 (5) -
01:05:725 (2,4) -
01:07:812 (4,5,6) - either 4 and 6 together or just 5. Emphasise the yeah! of the background voices or the vocals.
01:10:160 (6) -
01:22:551 (5,6) - or just 6

And then the real mod

00:15:508 (3,4,1) - You put a finish on 1 so you want it to be emphasised, but your spacing says otherwise. Move 1 further down.
00:18:899 (5) - I don't think this slider shape supports the sound it's playing. It could just be a straight slider entering the centre of the circle.
00:19:682 (1,1,1) - I'd emphasise these by stacking or distance snapping them to a really low value.
00:20:595 (3,4,1) - 3 to 4 is same distance as 4 to 1. I'd make 1 slightly further away. This happens at 00:24:769 (2,3,4) - and 00:28:943 (3,4,5) - and 00:31:030 (2,3,1) - 00:33:117 (2,3,1) - 00:35:204 (2,3,1) - except worse. Take care with push rhythms like this.
00:27:247 (8) - should be a repeating slider to emphasise the rhythm of the vocals.
00:28:030 (1) - I'd definitely make this slider slower.
00:33:638 (1) - This slider shape isn't really expressing anything important. A push rhythm isn't something that should deserve a whole new slider shape - especially one this different compared to your other shapes.
00:37:421 (3,3,3) - These shapes should all be similar. Why is the last one different? Same comment about this slider 00:43:682 (3) - .
00:40:030 (1) - Even though this is extended for effect, you're still missing the sound 00:40:291 - here which is pretty crucial. Similarly, you could make 00:40:421 (2) - end on 00:40:682 - this sound and put a circle 00:40:812 - here. Applies to 00:44:204 (1,2) - too.
00:41:595 (3,3,3) - Also with these sliders, the hard-points on these sliders just don't do it for me. The sound is a very constant but aggressive tone. There's no reason to represent this with a red anchor halfway through.
00:45:638 (3) - Slider shape comment again.
00:47:073 (5) - Slider shape is inappropriate, but can be different to all the others. Pick a different shape and see how it feels.
00:50:856 (3,4,1) - This pattern seems more appropriate for the counter extra does it not?
00:53:595 (1,2,1) - I feel like these sliders don't actually require that much movement, they end up feeling a little tame for what they're expressing. This is especially true since you follow it up with the fast movement of the jumps to and from 00:54:508 (2) - this circle. It's like the wrong thing is getting emphasised. Same for the 2 next repeats 00:54:638 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - afterwards.
00:57:769 (1) - There's that slidershape again. It's just not doing anything for me.
01:03:769 (4) - Not expressing anything.
01:06:117 (1,2,1,2) - Very tame movement for the aggressive cheering in the background. Same for 01:10:291 (1,1,1,2) - .
01:08:725 (3,4,1) - Might wanna rethink this spacing. 4 is getting more emphasis than 1.
01:27:769 (5) - Again, I don't think this should be circular.
01:28:551 (1) - You could make this a slow slider to play the end off.

[Infighter Extra]

More like PPfighter Extra amirite.

00:05:595 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Lots of vertical movement. Try to mix it up a little more. You did change for the last 3.
00:08:725 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Consider one or two of these into reverse sliders. We just had a section with sparse rhythms and no way of coming into this phrase cleanly.
00:14:986 (1) - Random rogue curve slider coming in here. Honestly the curved slider every 1st beat of the measure just doesn't feel like a good slider structure. If you're gonna keep them then at least use this one to blanket 00:15:247 (2) -. You did it 00:18:117 (1) - here.
00:21:117 (1) - gets a special slider shape but 00:23:204 (1,1) - these don't. You do get this right in the chorus 01:07:551 (3,3) - though.
00:36:899 - to 00:45:247 - you know what I'm going to say about differing slider-shapes. So yeah.
00:44:986 (4,5) - These are different pitches so stacking them wouldn't the best idea, even if they do pick up into the next section.
00:46:943 (4) - I know this is setting up the stacking for the next couple of circles but at 00:47:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - the map would benefit a lot more from circular flow, especially since you mapped the last 00:48:117 (1,2,3) - three without that stacking motif. Either way the stacking 00:47:464 (2,3,2,3) - here and 00:46:682 (2,4) - here has to be changed, you've never used it before so it's a bit late to start using it now.
01:14:464 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same stacking comment.
01:19:160 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - Where are these curved sliders coming from. You've been using loads of straight lines until now. If anything use anchored sliders to keep the straight edges theme.
01:28:030 (1,1) - It would be better if these were different shapes.

So yeah. Good luck.

Last edited by Mykaterasu 2017-03-02T20:19:50+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Vivyanne

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Vivyanne 2017-03-02T19:30:31+00:00

This man watched his pishifat videos

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-03-02T20:09:30+00:00

and wrote a thesis on them o lawd

Will respond tonight

Mykaterasu

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Mykaterasu 2017-03-02T20:26:04+00:00

HighTec wrote:
This man watched his pishifat videos

who's pishifat

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-03-03T02:44:25+00:00

Yasaija

Yasaija 714 wrote:
From Queue

[General]
I think that I do not need the title TV size removed
Let's unify the end of songs for Difficulty other than GD adjusted so it would be this way.
01:29:073 - or 01:28:551 -

[Easy]
00:00:378 (1) - remove clap
Because the sound of 00:01:421 (1) - is more conspicuous sure, done
00:04:812 - 00:05:073 - remove finish
The sound of finish only sounds first there's actual cymbal crashes in the song that i want to emphasize here with the hs.
00:08:986 - 00:09:247 - ^
00:28:030 (4) - Additions Normal whistle
I can only hear the sound of a Normal whistle right, done!
00:45:247 - Add finish added to all difs
01:25:943 (1) - remove NC
01:26:986 (2) - Why not attach NC?
00:18:117 (1) - Same as the first fixed both
01:28:029 (3) - ^
Good luck! thanks for mod!

Mykaterasu wrote:
this wall of text terrifies me myka
[Easy]

00:04:551 (4,4) - Repeating sliders this short aren't always the best idea in an Easy because the actual rhythm is very ambiguous for a beginner to read. Going for a 2/1 slider might be better. this is the only place i use them anyways, so i'll just change it.
00:12:899 (4,1) - Going against flow is very taboo in lower difficulties without a very explicit reason like some sort of very special sound, which is definitely not present here. downbeats can be justifiable IMO, i dont want extremely monotonous gameplay of just constant circular flow with no clear changes, so i try to make them where i can. having some diversity like this keeps the gameplay somewhat interesting, as much as an easy can be i suppose.
00:28:030 (4) - You can actually accentuate the whistle here by just putting removing this. Silence acts as a very good emphasis tool in lower diffs. i like that, sure
00:36:899 (1,2,3) - I love how you're using the hard-points to express the tone change, but at 00:40:030 (4) - the vocals that are sung here aren't under the same filter as the previous three. I would consider using just a normal curved slider instead of a hard-point slider. Same goes for 00:44:204 (4) - . i like that you see it that way, but it wasn't necessarily for that. this is a really unique part of the song and i wanted something different in slider shapes to emphasize that.
00:53:073 (2) - Why the one of a kind slidershape here? What are you emphasising here. are wavies necessarily that unique? i felt they were generic enough like curved/slider ones so that i could incorporate them just fine.
01:16:551 (4) - I'm usually ok with shapes like these, but I'm against this use here because the hardpoint isn't used for any effect. Nothing special happens here 01:17:073 - , it's all just the same note held over. A circular slider would be more appropriate. circle slider in this corner of the playfield is not gonna be really easy to incorporate. i made this purposely this way since it's a longer held out rhythm and it's a way to make the rhythm a little more followable. I made the point a little less sharp if it makes a difference.
01:21:769 (4,1) - The difference in curvature is stark and very noticeable. Please make them match. you do realize these are copy pasted, right? xd
[Counter Extra]

I have to be real with you here. Saying this gimmick is used "consistantly" is a stretch. The practicality and understanding of the gimmick is far from appropriate. Simply put, I feel like you've built this map with the gimmick in mind as opposed to building the map for the gimmick. Maps should expose, develop and conclude all themes and that includes gimmicks. (Yes, I know it's recapitulation, sue me for the misrepresentation of sonata form). It's almost like you've forgone these stages in place of just putting the gimmick in a map that doesn't support it. I'll elaborate. Welcome to wall of text land. I can't format this like a normal list. I'm sorry. I think you misunderstood my gimmick overall with this map. I never mentioned mapping anything "consistantly" with this difficulty, more so using some false consistency in some parts THEN breaking it, as to represent the counter theme.

> Exposition

A gimmick needs to be introduced in an intuitive and fair way. A player will not know what the gimmick is before the map begins. It is the job of the mapper to slowly include the themes of a gimmick in a way that communicates that the map is abnormal, and that the player will look out for the themes displayed here.

I'm sure you're aware of the GRANRODEO - Can Do (TV Size) Mapset. Look at the beginning of the selected difficulty in particular, which has the same gimmick as your map. A circle into a neat stack, followed by simple rhythms of overlapping 1/2 sliders. Minimal movement, and low rhythm intensity. This says "You're playing a map that is hard to read. Have something that is considered slightly abnormal but still readable." On your map, it dives straight into a pattern of just 1/2 circles 00:00:378 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Which is pretty much as rhythmically intensive you can get on this map. Of course it's supposed to be hard, but no player is prepared for that at the very beginning of the map. If it were 4 overlapped 1/2 sliders, it would be more acceptable. 00:01:421 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These patterns are more applicable for an exposition, but the first circles just aren't appropriate, end of. You're not considering the implications of the music though. Can Do has a calm intro in respect to the rest of the song, and so perhaps Monstrata chose to make it easier to read in that sense, and so an exposition of that sort is more fitting. However, in this map, immediately we're starting with intense drums and a guitar. I'm mapping specifically to the music's intensity - by trying to simplify these patterns and intense rhythms just for introducing it it sort of kills how I gauge the intensity throughout, if that makes sense. I can't just force an introduction to a concept, above all I want the intensity and difficulty to fit the song. Not to mention, relatively speaking, the 1/2 circles are really not that hard to read.

> Development

A gimmick needs to be used in multiple interesting ways and multiple times to take root as the main theme. It should be explored and evolve in an intuitive way, while still being playable and enjoyable. The development of these themes therefore needs to be congruent and comprehensive.

You said in your explanation that flow was one of the things that you experimented with here, but honestly that's just not the case. If you change the map's AR to something like 9.5 or higher to remove the reading gimmick and play it, the map has pretty much exclusively generic flow save a couple instances closer to the end. Take the same diff mentioned earlier from monstrata's set and give it the same treatment, and it's still abnormal. The reason is because your map doesn't really develop. The theme of "sometimes the circles, sliderends or sliderheads overlap previous or future circles, sliderends or sliderheads" is throughout and usually ends up in creating circular flow one way or another. You don't experiment with stacked circles, you break your own patterns, you make patterns and then forget them. The result just ends up looking messy. And bam, there, you found the real gimmick in the difficulty. It's meant to represent the misleading flow by making you trust it, then countering what I was implying with it and changing it. I know I didn't implicate this well however, which I will elaborate on in my final response.
00:04:551 (1,2,3) - Pattern revolves around stacking a slider end over a previous slider head. 00:05:334 (4) - Pattern broken. The guitar changes notes and the song's intensity changes, which is what I wanted to represent here. Of course, it can be done better, which I'll again elaborate on here in a minute.
00:08:725 (1,2,3,4) - Same rhythm pattern as before - revolves around stacking slider ends over previous slider ends instead for some reason. Pattern remains unbroken. Which is an inconsistency I need to fix in respect to my last point, and will.
00:27:769 (1,1) - 00:27:769 (1,1) - doesn't stack or do anything related to the theme. And if this sliderart is supposed to be a whistle, the shape is a little... off. It's not instantly recognisable as one. This applies to all the diffs that has this shape. See, that's the thing - you mention using unique play and such to emphasize something different, which is what I'm doing here.
00:11:856 (1,2) - we don't see a stack pattern with this rhythm again... ever. Which was a lousy fix on my part to a mod, since it's really hard to make fixes with a map based on something like this.
00:10:291 (3,4) - 4 beats away from each other. Nice a bit of repetition in the slider shape and positioning exactly 1 measure away from each other. This could be interesting... 00:17:464 (4,1) - Wait hold on now it's 1 1/2 beats away from each other, why did they get closer together? Wow, maybe the "exactly overlapping 1/2 slider" theme is going to develop by creeping closer and closer together as the song ramps up for the chorus... Except no. We never see it again. Not too sure what you mean here, honestly. Beats away? The rhythm is just 1/2 spam and the spacing is relatively consistent throughout.
00:35:334 (3,4) - Oh cool so you are using stacked circles as a theme... only once in the entire map... mistake
The only consistent aspect of this map is the the flowing rotated patterns 00:10:291 (3,4) - 00:11:334 (4,5) - 00:12:377 (3,4) - etc...
If they're the only thing that the map has throughout, doesn't that make good flow a theme instead of abnormal flow? Do you get my point yet? This is where I take some issue with your mod. I'm not sure if you mis-read the description for this difficulty on accident, but a lot of this wouldn't be an issue if the gimmick I was going for was more clear from the beginning - comfortable flow to trick you into playing it normally, then using misleading wide angled jumps to emphasize intense points and show the counter fighting style from the anime in my map. And again, I know I didn't represent it too well, which I will bring up later.

> Conclusion

For the climax of the song, you want to bring together the very best of your experimentation with your theme. Drive the gimmick home with the most enjoyable, attractive or just interesting pattern you've made and show people that this gimmick you've made isn't just for show, this style of mapping can be fun and taken seriously.

00:49:421 (1,2,3) - Ok. We've got rotational flow now. I repeat my flow statement earlier, but maybe this is a section where 120 degree rotational flow is really important. In that instance I'd expect a lot of sliders to be arranged like this. 00:50:204 (4,1) - and we broke it already, we don't return to anything vastly similar to rotational flow until 00:58:812 (1) - ...
Speaking of 00:58:812 (1) - Oh look, a new theme a whole minute in. This 120 degree overlapping pattern's really pretty, I wanna see more of it. Except here 01:00:899 (1,2,3) - it's applied to a different rhythm... I can understand it, but you didn't even try to make them overlap in a similar way when compared to last time. 01:06:117 (1,2,3) - And now it's back to the rhythm shown in the exposition and repeated here 01:10:291 (1,2,3,4) - . So shouldn't all the other rhythms with sliders be circular in shape then? I'm confused. Is this a visual theme or just a thing you threw in.
Yet another new theme 01:05:073 (1,2) - one minute in? This stack type hasn't been used before, and it's in the most intense section of the piece. After that it keeps happening 01:07:421 (2,3) - , 01:11:595 (2,3) - . Why is it here if you haven't done this jump distance and visual theme before?
00:54:117 (3) - Why doesn't the sliderend stack here? or 00:55:160 (3) - or 00:56:204 (3) - ? I thought overlapping was a part of your theme.
00:56:204 (3) - Oh man using red anchors over slider-ends is an interesting topic except oh wait it's one of a kind again.
And with all of these, my issue was I hadn't established a clear idea to carry through the difficulty from the beginning. My nature of mapping this was very experimental to begin with, and I had no intentions of ranking it, especially this difficulty being the most rushed. With that, I'm going to say I'll re-map this with some more consistent overall themes in mind. However, I'm going to stick with that consistent flow unless I need emphasis in which case I will make it uncomfortable, as to suggest for the "counter" difficulty while still limiting readability with AR and such. I'll keep some things you mentioned in mind while re-mapping this.

[Outfighter Extra]

Same gimmick speech as above, but this one is generally more salvageable so it gets a real mod this time.
Just know that the more you abuse short sliders, the less impact you give them. Because of that, a quick list of short sliders that I believe should be definitely converted into circles for contrast. Same response to the speech, and the point is to have that less impact, since I want them to be something fast and consistent throughout. These are all a bit iffy to me since I can't really keep my gimmick if I lose intensity here by replacing them with circles, and the sudden momentum stops just feel really awkward.
00:13:682 (5,6) -
00:17:204 (2) -
00:17:986 (3) -
00:36:247 (2,2,2) -
00:57:638 (5) -
01:05:725 (2,4) -
01:07:812 (4,5,6) - either 4 and 6 together or just 5. Emphasise the yeah! of the background voices or the vocals.
01:10:160 (6) - i'll agree to this one, it fits nicer.
01:22:551 (5,6) - or just 6
And then the real mod

00:15:508 (3,4,1) - You put a finish on 1 so you want it to be emphasised, but your spacing says otherwise. Move 1 further down. moved 4 further up instead a bit and 3 closer in, i think the flow is good enough emphasis.
00:18:899 (5) - I don't think this slider shape supports the sound it's playing. It could just be a straight slider entering the centre of the circle. I disagree, the vocals have almost a "haiTAII" sound here, and so I'd like the bigger circle to just be a faster rendition of the slider before.
00:19:682 (1,1,1) - I'd emphasise these by stacking or distance snapping them to a really low value. moved elsewhere
00:20:595 (3,4,1) - 3 to 4 is same distance as 4 to 1. I'd make 1 slightly further away. This happens at 00:24:769 (2,3,4) - and 00:28:943 (3,4,5) - and 00:31:030 (2,3,1) - 00:33:117 (2,3,1) - 00:35:204 (2,3,1) - except worse. Take care with push rhythms like this. i'm not gonna slight overlap and honestly there's no real way to fix this without drastically changing spacing, i really don't think it's too big of an issue.
00:27:247 (8) - should be a repeating slider to emphasise the rhythm of the vocals. this slider itself is used to emphasize the vocals, i dont want a repeat since the drum intensity is still strong.
00:28:030 (1) - I'd definitely make this slider slower. sure i guezz
00:33:638 (1) - This slider shape isn't really expressing anything important. A push rhythm isn't something that should deserve a whole new slider shape - especially one this different compared to your other shapes. ya think? it incorporates just fine with this section here, where it forms a circle and just has another curve like that flipped. if anything it's super generic for this section.
00:37:421 (3,3,3) - These shapes should all be similar. Why is the last one different? Same comment about this slider 00:43:682 (3) - . consistenter'd
00:40:030 (1) - Even though this is extended for effect, you're still missing the sound 00:40:291 - here which is pretty crucial. Similarly, you could make 00:40:421 (2) - end on 00:40:682 - this sound and put a circle 00:40:812 - here. Applies to 00:44:204 (1,2) - too. agree, changed these.
00:41:595 (3,3,3) - Also with these sliders, the hard-points on these sliders just don't do it for me. The sound is a very constant but aggressive tone. There's no reason to represent this with a red anchor halfway through. used my same smooth slider design from before.
00:45:638 (3) - Slider shape comment again. ye
00:47:073 (5) - Slider shape is inappropriate, but can be different to all the others. Pick a different shape and see how it feels. i don't see anything wrong with it, it represents vocal intensity change and i don't feel the need to make it something else, it looks fine.
00:50:856 (3,4,1) - This pattern seems more appropriate for the counter extra does it not? not really, but i never realized how inconsistent this was with my next instance of this rhythm so i got rid of this entirely.
00:53:595 (1,2,1) - I feel like these sliders don't actually require that much movement, they end up feeling a little tame for what they're expressing. This is especially true since you follow it up with the fast movement of the jumps to and from 00:54:508 (2) - this circle. It's like the wrong thing is getting emphasised. Same for the 2 next repeats 00:54:638 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - afterwards. did feel weak in gameplay, i adjusted this section a lot, really happy with changing this, thank you so much!
00:57:769 (1) - There's that slidershape again. It's just not doing anything for me. same reasoning as before
01:03:769 (4) - Not expressing anything. re-arranged, though I kept a similar shape.
01:06:117 (1,2,1,2) - Very tame movement for the aggressive cheering in the background. Same for 01:10:291 (1,1,1,2) - . changed somewhat?
01:08:725 (3,4,1) - Might wanna rethink this spacing. 4 is getting more emphasis than 1.redid this section a bit
01:27:769 (5) - Again, I don't think this should be circular. same reasoning as before
01:28:551 (1) - You could make this a slow slider to play the end off. did in last mod
Really helped with this diff a ton, thanks!
[Infighter Extra]

More like PPfighter Extra amirite.

00:05:595 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Lots of vertical movement. Try to mix it up a little more. You did change for the last 3. changed third repetition
00:08:725 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Consider one or two of these into reverse sliders. We just had a section with sparse rhythms and no way of coming into this phrase cleanly. re-arranged to make it play a little nicer, though i want to keep the stream intensity.
00:14:986 (1) - Random rogue curve slider coming in here. Honestly the curved slider every 1st beat of the measure just doesn't feel like a good slider structure. If you're gonna keep them then at least use this one to blanket 00:15:247 (2) -. You did it 00:18:117 (1) - here. used different solution for this.
00:21:117 (1) - gets a special slider shape but 00:23:204 (1,1) - these don't. You do get this right in the chorus 01:07:551 (3,3) - though. diversified
00:36:899 - to 00:45:247 - you know what I'm going to say about differing slider-shapes. So yeah. and i'm gonna keep them, because it's a part of the song that stands out and deserves this sort of emphasis.
00:44:986 (4,5) - These are different pitches so stacking them wouldn't the best idea, even if they do pick up into the next section.
00:46:943 (4) - I know this is setting up the stacking for the next couple of circles but at 00:47:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - the map would benefit a lot more from circular flow, especially since you mapped the last 00:48:117 (1,2,3) - three without that stacking motif. Either way the stacking 00:47:464 (2,3,2,3) - here and 00:46:682 (2,4) - here has to be changed, you've never used it before so it's a bit late to start using it now. based on guitar emphasis
01:14:464 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same stacking comment. same reasoning
01:19:160 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - Where are these curved sliders coming from. You've been using loads of straight lines until now. If anything use anchored sliders to keep the straight edges theme. no clue where you're getting that theme from, but i use a lot of curved sliders which i want to continue to do.
01:28:030 (1,1) - It would be better if these were different shapes. fixed in last mod
So yeah. Good luck. thanks for putting so much time into this \o/ Helped me fix a ton of issues in top two diffs, and I'll re-map the counter with a different mindset, though maybe not entirely in line with what you might be thinking of ><; thanks again o7

oh my goodness there goes 4 hours

thank you for your time, means a lot!

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-03-03T04:26:37+00:00

i grade a a+ for that essay

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-03-03T04:48:15+00:00

Modding process at its best.

Nicely done both of ya o3o/

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2017-03-03T04:57:27+00:00

hi

Anx

00:56:464 - i doubt this non-click rhythm usage, as almost part already followed vocal as well.
vocal pretty start at here

poka

00:29:856 (2) - move more donwside better for more readability at 1/1 rhythm 00:29:856 (2,3) -
00:30:638 (1,2,3,1) - hmm, do u have special reason, which decrease DS in this section only?
00:47:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this partten is extreamly too hard at overall diffculty.
every rhythm is enough simple(there isn't over continous four 1/2 circle),
but this partten seems extra diff partten, which can appear over 5.5 stars.
00:48:638 - this hitsound feel make oversounds, slience at tails

petri

00:56:986 (3,4) - i think this jump+flow so hard for insane diff, so ctrl+g better.
01:18:377 (4) - clapp

ar8 extra

00:17:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - aesthetic.
well, btw, im not fan of repeating 200% same partten with 01:25:943 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
01:18:377 (1) - should be clap, instead of whistle.
kinda guess you copied hitsound from highest diff. but maybe whistle is not here. looks outfighter diff.

hmm, i guess you may want to similar concept with monstrata's can do
his concept is reading chellenge, and you aimed for that.
ye, reading concept diffs is so cool idea. and it's definitely yes, for me.
but overall, almost partten don't have reading chellenge partten,(i means trick.
on players view, 00:17:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is tricky only, for me.)
btw, monstrata's diff is still reading chellenge concept, even if his diff was increased to higher AR.
but if your diff was increased to higher AR, it's kinda looks like NORMAL extra diffs.
anyway nothing fault here, just i wish you use more tricky partten in next time.

outfighter

00:01:551 (1,2) - actually, i'd like to swap NC, more cool desgin.

6.33

00:00:378 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - aesthetic?
00:23:204 (1,2) - imo, more cool if make same DS with 00:25:291 (1,2) - ,00:21:117 (1,1) -
00:48:247 (2) - x452 y224 looks so good
01:15:377 (2) - x284 y364 ^
01:04:943 (2,1,2) - this flow isn't natural to play, as player got 01:04:030 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - have clock,
but suddenly changed anti-clock + anti-flow( (1,2) opposite flow with slider).
01:08:986 (3,1) - looks not neat imo, as ambiguous overlapped at each tail.

gl then

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-03-04T02:31:02+00:00

Lami wrote:
hi

ar8 extra

00:17:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - aesthetic.
well, btw, im not fan of repeating 200% same partten with 01:25:943 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
01:18:377 (1) - should be clap, instead of whistle.
kinda guess you copied hitsound from highest diff. but maybe whistle is not here. looks outfighter diff.

hmm, i guess you may want to similar concept with monstrata's can do
his concept is reading chellenge, and you aimed for that.
ye, reading concept diffs is so cool idea. and it's definitely yes, for me.
but overall, almost partten don't have reading chellenge partten,(i means trick.
on players view, 00:17:073 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is tricky only, for me.)
btw, monstrata's diff is still reading chellenge concept, even if his diff was increased to higher AR.
but if your diff was increased to higher AR, it's kinda looks like NORMAL extra diffs.
anyway nothing fault here, just i wish you use more tricky partten in next time. really sorry, i know you spent a lot of time on this, but i was in the process of remapping ;w; though i tried to use more challenging concepts, I tried to make them consistent. I want it to be relative overall to the set - Monstrata had like 7 gimmick difficulties so he had to make sure all stood out clearly. I only have 3, and I think relatively they should be difficult in their own way but not to that extent. My re-map shouldnt have this issue as much, but it will probably still be the case.

outfighter

00:01:551 (1,2) - actually, i'd like to swap NC, more cool desgin. sure, i like it. done!

6.33

00:00:378 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - aesthetic? my bad LOL cleaned up!
00:23:204 (1,2) - imo, more cool if make same DS with 00:25:291 (1,2) - ,00:21:117 (1,1) - right, done
00:48:247 (2) - x452 y224 looks so good
01:15:377 (2) - x284 y364 ^ sure, done both.
01:04:943 (2,1,2) - this flow isn't natural to play, as player got 01:04:030 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - have clock,
but suddenly changed anti-clock + anti-flow( (1,2) opposite flow with slider). fair, didnt like this much either. I made spacing more consistent to match the intensity here.
01:08:986 (3,1) - looks not neat imo, as ambiguous overlapped at each tail. slightly adjusted

gl then thanks lami! \o/

Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Weber 2017-03-04T02:58:48+00:00

hi

Easy

00:18:117 (1,2,3) - This could definitely flow a little better: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7476935

Anxient's Hard

00:01:421 (1,2) - Not really sure I agree with these pattern's rhythm usage, I would consider remapping these similarly to Hobbe's Normal but more spaced.

Outfighter Extra

01:05:595 (1,2,3,4) - I understand this is the end of the kiai time but this is BY FAR the most difficult set of jumps in the map, even pattern-wise compared to the rest of them. Honestly I think the distance is a little overkill and could be brought a little bit closer.

this set is goat pls rank

Good luck!

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-03-04T03:07:30+00:00

Weber wrote:
hi

Easy

00:18:117 (1,2,3) - This could definitely flow a little better: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7476935 softened a bit

Outfighter Extra

01:05:595 (1,2,3,4) - I understand this is the end of the kiai time but this is BY FAR the most difficult set of jumps in the map, even pattern-wise compared to the rest of them. Honestly I think the distance is a little overkill and could be brought a little bit closer. buffed jumps before a bit and nerfed this pattern some.

this set is goat pls rank <3

Good luck! thanks weber!

Saika0k1

346 posts

Joined April 2014

Saika0k1 2017-03-04T15:33:47+00:00

hi! mod from my queue

Pentori's Insane

00:37:421 (3) - NC to show that its diffrent from 2 previous notes
00:38:464 (3) - ^
00:39:508 (3) - ^
00:41:595 (3) - ^
00:42:638 (3) - ^
00:43:682 (3) - ^
00:49:421 - increasing slider velo even more than 1.2x during the kiai is a good idea imo because in kiai,
the singer's raise her voice higher and the drums got alot more intense

good luck!

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-03-04T22:46:48+00:00

wots a petri

fixed from lami
saika0k1, the nc's arent really needed there else it'll feel really spammy. and i reckon the sv is high enough already, i dont want it to be too difficult

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Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-03-05T00:26:53+00:00

@Lami: i think its fine since the part you were mentioning wasnt that powerful. so i think a reverse note should be enough.

@Weber: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QQ80PbfYwtU/maxresdefault.jpg, simply because i think what the normal diff looks bad imo.

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-03-05T05:00:12+00:00

discussion w/ cryptic on top diff and what to improve on it

21:09 Cryptic: 00:04:551 (1,2,3) - cluttered, 1 end to 2 head has a fair bit of space compared to 2 end to 3 head and 1 end 2 end and 3 head are super close
21:11 Cryptic: Musically the location of 00:08:986 (1,2,3) - does not make much sense due to the fact that the pitch of it is the same as the pitch of 00:08:725 (1,2,3) -. The first pitch shift is on  00:09:247 (1,2,3) - so maybe rework it so that 00:08:725 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - feel similar, 00:09:247 (1,2,3) - feels a bit different, and 00:09:508 (1,2,3,4,1) - stays the same
21:22 Cryptic: 00:13:551 (1,2,3,1) -
21:22 Cryptic: 01:22:421 (4,5,6,1) -
21:25 Cryptic: 00:21:508 (2,3) -
21:25 Cryptic: 00:11:204 (2,3) -
21:28 Cryptic: 00:29:464 (1,2,3) -
21:29 Cryptic: 00:47:334 (1,2,3) -
21:30 Cryptic: 00:47:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
21:31 Cryptic: 00:50:464 (1) -
21:32 Cryptic: 00:50:464 (1,2) -
21:33 Cryptic: 00:52:291 (5,1) -
21:33 Cryptic: 00:59:204 (2,3,4,1) -
21:44 Plaudible: 01:00:911 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) -  vs 01:03:781 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - 

Mostly done in discord, work on the following in general:
Differentiate between sections, map them uniquely. They all look the same.
Spacing, difficulty consistency overall?
00:47:346 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - make 2,3 2,3 sliders
00:52:303 (5,1) - Spacing
Maybe emphasize jumps differently - Use something different for vocals or drums?

Only done offset fixes so far, will work on the rest later o7

memeadmiral

2 posts

Joined December 2016

memeadmiral 2017-03-10T21:27:36+00:00

rly nice map

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-03-11T17:06:40+00:00

Lami wrote:
poka

00:29:856 (2) - move more donwside better for more readability at 1/1 rhythm 00:29:856 (2,3) - Alright.
00:30:638 (1,2,3,1) - hmm, do u have special reason, which decrease DS in this section only? Its the same ono
00:47:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this partten is extreamly too hard at overall diffculty. testers could read it. It's just hard to play because of the bpm.
every rhythm is enough simple(there isn't over continous four 1/2 circle),
but this partten seems extra diff partten, which can appear over 5.5 stars. I really dont think so sorry :/
00:48:638 - this hitsound feel make oversounds, slience at tails ok

boop

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jas

541 posts

Joined August 2016

jas 2017-03-12T02:38:32+00:00

nice gimmick idea

mod queue

asdf

ok so honestly i cant find anything wrong with the diffs you want me to mod, they look rankable ~~besides infighters~~. so if you dont want to give me kds, then thats fine. these are moreless suggestions that I would do.

infighter
ok so ik the gimmick is difficulty spikes, but dont you think youre overdoing it a tiny bit? I feel like your gonna have a hard time getting this ranked if you keep the jumps like this

outfighter

00:01:824 (1) - i feel like it would play better if you ctrl + g it. this goes for other sliders with the same pattern

sorry if your expectaitions were high or something, im still a noob to mapping :^) this honestly is a really good mapset, i would be talking to bn rn tbh xd have fun getting this ranked

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-03-12T03:57:08+00:00

CraEZy wrote:
nice gimmick idea

mod queue

asdf
ok so honestly i cant find anything wrong with the diffs you want me to mod, they look rankable ~~besides infighters~~. so if you dont want to give me kds, then thats fine. these are moreless suggestions that I would do. no worries!

infighter
ok so ik the gimmick is difficulty spikes, but dont you think youre overdoing it a tiny bit? I feel like your gonna have a hard time getting this ranked if you keep the jumps like this it's consistently difficult enough, i say.

outfighter

00:01:824 (1) - i feel like it would play better if you ctrl + g it. this goes for other sliders with the same pattern too much movement, the music stops so i want the gameplay too as well ;o

sorry if your expectaitions were high or something, im still a noob to mapping :^) this honestly is a really good mapset, i would be talking to bn rn tbh xd have fun getting this ranked no worries! not gonna kd, im sorry ;_; but i really appreciate you taking a look.

Dashyy-

751 posts

Joined May 2015

Dashyy- 2017-03-16T01:16:42+00:00

only 2 days late

i'm still waiting for a kickball anime

g;
u could add punk rock to the tags idk

e:
00:10:824 (2) - this seems a bit too close to the top, maybe move it down a bit?
00:12:911 (4,1) - this break of flow seems to be a bit too confusing for beginner players.
00:40:042 (4) - could change this slider to indicate that this is a different sound
00:57:781 (1) - change this slider shape so that it flows right into 00:59:346 (2) -
01:16:563 (4) - more confusing flow changes
01:26:998 (5) - nc
01:28:041 (1) - no nc

hob n:
00:40:042 (1) - could make this a bit more edgy like you did with other ones

edgiest normal diff i have ever seen

anx h:
in the beginning with the reverse sliders, sliders instead of circles would work a bit better since they represent the song better

01:16:042 (1) - could make this slider slower since the singer gets quiter

polka light:
00:47:346 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - these seem a bit too hard to play for a light insane. maybe make them a bit sharper?
01:28:042 (1) - could space this farther away since it's a downbeat

everything else looks pretty goo🅱️

Last edited by Dashyy- 2017-03-19T21:45:30+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2017-03-17T04:30:35+00:00

Hi. Here for M4M. Hope this helps!

[General]

Consider making your AudioLeadIn be 1500.

[Easy]

00:20:216 (1) – For like the next 32 measures you've got predominantly sliders and only one hit circle. The new ranking criteria wants us to shift away from huge slider sections because Easy players actually find sliders tricky. The new rules don't kick in for a while, but it'd be a good time to consider what you could do about the rhythm to add more rests/circles.

00:49:433 (1) – Something's odd with your hitsounds. It started to sound quiet here, as if it doesn't really have a finish compared to the hitsound at 00:48:911 (2) - . Especially since you abandon the 2/4 drum hitsound pattern, it just sounds insufficient in terms of hitsounds. Try adding the 2/4 drums back? Or increasing the volume of the kiai? Or use louder custom hitsounds?

[Normal]

00:22:824 (2) – This is being a bit picky, but at the same time it doesn't take much to fix. This is overlapping the HP bar http://puu.sh/uMrRJ/a70bc6df8b.jpg. Try moving it down
01:15:259 (3) – Similar story

[Hard]

00:01:172 – having the strong sound be a slider end did not feel nice to me.

00:04:563 (1) – ¾ slider here but ½ slider 00:08:737 (1) - ? I wouldn't use a ¾ slider at 00:08:737 (1) – because it would be too intense, and for the same reason, I don't like playing a ¾ slider at 00:04:563 (1) – .

00:09:781 (1,2) – The (2) circle is pretty hard to see with the way it's stacked under (1). (In general I don't like the stacking technique for this reason and because it doesn't always make sense why you stack sometimes like here and not others like 00:10:303 (3,4) - . I understand it's necessary because full distance everywhere at 230bpm is pretty tough, but I had a really difficult time making sense of a lot of these patterns.)

[Light Insane]

00:17:085 (1,2,3,1,2) – My issue is at 00:18:259 – since I thought this would be a rest of some kind (either nothing or a slider end). Notice how 00:17:085 (1,2) – goes with either of the two melodies, the singer or the guitar. Then, there is a finish at 00:18:129 (1) – which indicates the end of both those instruments, and both of those instruments take a rest at 00:18:259 – . To me it followed naturally that I shouldn't click there, but in the map, you make a sudden transition to the drum. I personally think you should explore taking a rest here, but if you need this object here, try to make the transition from one instrument to the other more clear to the player.

00:36:911 (1,2) – I just played the Hard, and it had a denser rhythm than what you have, and I would say that using a similarly dense rhythm would play better: http://puu.sh/uMtE0/bce34c90dd.png

00:47:346 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – This was far and away the most challenging pattern in the map. Does this feel like the most intense part of the music to you? By having so intense a pattern here, it made me feel like the patterns in the chorus/kiai weren't that engaging.
I just read your response to Lami's concern about this pattern. You're right that the pattern itself would basically be fine in a 180 bpm map. But this isn't a 180 bpm map. The pattern is hard because it's 230 bpm, and it is significantly harder than every single pattern in your map. Could you at least test what it would be like if you made each of these 00:47:476 (2,2) – be a ½ slider instead?

[Pentori's Insane]

01:16:042 (2,1) – This break felt odd, and I'd prefer something more engaging. Consider: http://puu.sh/uMu7v/77ff64f486.jpg

Good map, well done!

[Outfighter Extra]

00:49:433 (1) – This opinion will probably make the map less likely to be ranked, and so I'm tempted to not give it, but it's the only real reaction to this map I had since I can't really play this map because bpm. The chorus has very few flow changes and plays mostly like one counterclockwise circle over and over again. I feel like this mapping style lacks engagement, and I feel like the kiai/chorus is not the place to include patterns that lack engagement.

Good luck!

Aleksander92

36 posts

Joined September 2015

Aleksander92 2017-03-18T02:02:46+00:00

Hey! Late M4M, sorry for delay, it's saturday finally.

I've read anime description, pretty nice, pretty nice

(OC - old combo, NC - new combo)

[Outfighter Extra]

As for me 75% volume is too loud... Hearing much claps, not enough song. Go 65?
00:25:303 (4) - NC?
00:29:476 (5) - NC?
00:42:650 (3) - It's uncomfortable to go into this slider from previous 00:42:389 (2) - , it's different from what you've did before. Maybe like this https://puu.sh/uNQyL/c0f156c01b.png ?
00:48:911 (2) - NC? You're doing maximal NC, so here you can go for it as well
00:52:303 (4) - Don't see a point to end this on blue tick, it's all the same as before, this is a bit annoying
01:00:650 (4) - ^ Quite same
01:18:650 (1,2) - // 01:20:737 (1,2) - vs. 01:22:824 (1,2) - // 01:24:911 (1,2) - same moments different mapping, you're saying it's bad. Maybe fix if you think so? I think it's ok to map same moments differently if it's played cool, but here for me 01:22:824 (1,2) - looks much better on place of 01:18:650 (1,2) -

[Infighter Extra]

00:21:911 (4,5) - Well... this small spacing looks like Hard, I mean it doesn't look any good here... Enlarge please So as in subsequent same moments
00:29:476 (5) - NC?
00:31:563 (5) - NC?
00:48:911 (4) - NC, same as in Outfighter diff

That was fun, gl with this

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-03-20T00:50:32+00:00

pinata

pinataman wrote:
Hi. Here for M4M. Hope this helps!

[General]

Consider making your AudioLeadIn be 1500. done

[Easy]

00:20:216 (1) – For like the next 32 measures you've got predominantly sliders and only one hit circle. The new ranking criteria wants us to shift away from huge slider sections because Easy players actually find sliders tricky. The new rules don't kick in for a while, but it'd be a good time to consider what you could do about the rhythm to add more rests/circles. changed rhythm a bit

00:49:433 (1) – Something's odd with your hitsounds. It started to sound quiet here, as if it doesn't really have a finish compared to the hitsound at 00:48:911 (2) - . Especially since you abandon the 2/4 drum hitsound pattern, it just sounds insufficient in terms of hitsounds. Try adding the 2/4 drums back? Or increasing the volume of the kiai? Or use louder custom hitsounds? changed to 85%

[Outfighter Extra]

00:49:433 (1) – This opinion will probably make the map less likely to be ranked, and so I'm tempted to not give it, but it's the only real reaction to this map I had since I can't really play this map because bpm. The chorus has very few flow changes and plays mostly like one counterclockwise circle over and over again. I feel like this mapping style lacks engagement, and I feel like the kiai/chorus is not the place to include patterns that lack engagement. will take into consideration when making some changes

thanks pinata! \o/

aleks

Aleksander92 wrote:
Hey! Late M4M, sorry for delay, it's saturday finally.

I've read anime description, pretty nice, pretty nice

(OC - old combo, NC - new combo)

[Outfighter Extra]
As for me 75% volume is too loud... Hearing much claps, not enough song. Go 65? mm, i think it works better loud given how obnoxiously intense the song is, but we'll see
00:25:303 (4) - NC? awk, done
00:29:476 (5) - NC?done
00:42:650 (3) - It's uncomfortable to go into this slider from previous 00:42:389 (2) - , it's different from what you've did before. Maybe like this https://puu.sh/uNQyL/c0f156c01b.png ? right, done!
00:48:911 (2) - NC? You're doing maximal NC, so here you can go for it as well sure, removed from third note as well
00:52:303 (4) - Don't see a point to end this on blue tick, it's all the same as before, this is a bit annoying
01:00:650 (4) - ^ Quite same both serve to emphasize held vocals here.
01:18:650 (1,2) - // 01:20:737 (1,2) - vs. 01:22:824 (1,2) - // 01:24:911 (1,2) - same moments different mapping, you're saying it's bad. Maybe fix if you think so? I think it's ok to map same moments differently if it's played cool, but here for me 01:22:824 (1,2) - looks much better on place of 01:18:650 (1,2) - nice catch! thanks for pointing this, honestly never noticed. all my other parts are based on emphasizing vocals, and these last few measures was me rushing to finish so i remapped it a bit appropriately. thank you so much! i do think it is bad, even if it plays cool, because a player should intuitively be able to know the rhythm upcoming.
[Infighter Extra]
00:21:911 (4,5) - Well... this small spacing looks like Hard, I mean it doesn't look any good here... Enlarge please So as in subsequent same moments though in practical terms it's better to be more consistently difficult throughout, the point of this was to really strongly emphasize the parts of the song with greater intensity, and a part of that is weakening this to make it stand out.
00:29:476 (5) - NC? done
00:31:563 (5) - NC? d
00:48:911 (4) - NC, same as in Outfighter diff ye
That was fun, gl with this thanks for the mod! \o/

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-03-20T11:41:39+00:00

take my star xd

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Topic Starter

Plaudible 2017-03-20T13:07:30+00:00

thanks \o/

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-03-21T06:52:02+00:00

huzzah remap

osu file format v14

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