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Monstrata
Expert

00:12:117 (3) - Ctrl+G flows better imo. I don't think flowbreak is necessary here yet cuz its a calm section of the map and you dont need to introduce sharp angles yet.
00:31:006 (4,5) - Kinda odd for the note on 00:31:229 - to be a slider-end. I think people will try to click there because of the sound. The blue tick after seems less important in comparison.
01:25:895 (1) - Could be more symmetrical in design.
01:34:340 (1,2) - Felt a bit empty here in terms of rhythm.
02:21:006 (3) - This isn't following the same doublet rhythm as the rest of your rhythm choice in this combo.
02:37:229 (1) - This is 1/12 snapping, not 1/16
02:48:562 (1,2,3,1) - This arrangement doesn't end up emphasizing blue tick notes like 02:48:895 (3) - that you've emphazied with 02:47:562 - 02:48:229 -

Insane

00:19:673 (1,2,3) - I don't think this rhythm is necessary. You could just have done a 1/1 slider. The extra click sounds overmapped imo.
01:37:895 (1,2) - You could have used a more similar slider design for visual consistency here since they both play into (our out of) 1/4 stream patterns.

Hard

00:01:895 (1) - Not really good to begin the map at the edge of the screen imo... Can you bring it closer to the center so the player can orient their cursor better? It really helps with hand positioning.
00:44:117 (4,1) - How about a jump here? Maybe Ctrl+G 1? For the pitch change here.
01:01:229 (2,3,4) - Looks really packed together. Ehh.. You probably ran out of space i guess. If you want to fix, you ccould probably have used 00:59:673 (3,4,1) - to transition to the left area of the screen instead and that would have allowed you more room to work with.
02:24:117 (1) - Not going to use a 3/4 repeat slider like 02:23:228 (3) - ? its the same rhythm

Normal

01:15:229 (2,3,4) - Spacing could be more even here.

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When you're ready!
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka

Monstrata wrote:

Expert

00:12:117 (3) - Ctrl+G flows better imo. I don't think flowbreak is necessary here yet cuz its a calm section of the map and you dont need to introduce sharp angles yet. someone pointed this out before irc, your point is correct but i feel like keeping the pattern itself because i like my usage of sliders in some section to be different
00:31:006 (4,5) - Kinda odd for the note on 00:31:229 - to be a slider-end. I think people will try to click there because of the sound. The blue tick after seems less important in comparison. i think its more pleasant to play the rhythm like this due to tapping consistency
01:25:895 (1) - Could be more symmetrical in design.
01:34:340 (1,2) - Felt a bit empty here in terms of rhythm. idk how to reply to this but i have to say that i like how it looks right now xd
02:21:006 (3) - This isn't following the same doublet rhythm as the rest of your rhythm choice in this combo. i have to hit that bell sound somehow, ill ask suggestions around
02:37:229 (1) - This is 1/12 snapping, not 1/16
02:48:562 (1,2,3,1) - This arrangement doesn't end up emphasizing blue tick notes like 02:48:895 (3) - that you've emphazied with 02:47:562 - 02:48:229 - i dont quite understand this but i did focus on making the kicks clickable (??)

Insane

00:19:673 (1,2,3) - I don't think this rhythm is necessary. You could just have done a 1/1 slider. The extra click sounds overmapped imo. changed it to 1/2 repeat instead
01:37:895 (1,2) - You could have used a more similar slider design for visual consistency here since they both play into (our out of) 1/4 stream patterns. i think im satisfied with the shape itself as i use the technique frequently

Normal

01:15:229 (2,3,4) - Spacing could be more even here.

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When you're ready!
thanks for the mod !

have to wait for hoot to update his
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka
hoot fixd the first two points except the third point is cus he used all the playfield area
and last is cus he's following the bells like all the other diffs are doin

thanks for mod again

Monstrata

RyoKazuka wrote:

Monstrata wrote:

Expert

00:31:006 (4,5) - Kinda odd for the note on 00:31:229 - to be a slider-end. I think people will try to click there because of the sound. The blue tick after seems less important in comparison. i think its more pleasant to play the rhythm like this due to tapping consistency
It's not more pleasant xP. the clicking rhythm is 3/4 and theres a clearly stronger note that lands on the white tick.
02:21:006 (3) - This isn't following the same doublet rhythm as the rest of your rhythm choice in this combo. i have to hit that bell sound somehow, ill ask suggestions around
Use a rhythm like this then, unless you actually got opinions for this point since you said you'll ask for suggestions around.
02:48:562 (1,2,3,1) - This arrangement doesn't end up emphasizing blue tick notes like 02:48:895 (3) - that you've emphazied with 02:47:562 - 02:48:229 - i dont quite understand this but i did focus on making the kicks clickable (??)
It's clickable but its not emphasized, especially when its the second note in a triplet (which really makes it the weakest imo). Basically think along the lines of removing 02:48:784 (2) - and using a gap instead so you can focus on the blue tick rhythm instead of adding an extra click on the red tick that doesn't follow anything you've been following so far.


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When you're ready!
thanks for the mod !

have to wait for hoot to update his
Replying to the 3 points that I still can't agree on.
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka


fixd the three points eventho i dislike the last point

discuss irc (with log) cos im the real deal






asdasdasdas
2017-03-19 16:49 RyoKazuka: i wanted to ask you about how to change the pattern
2017-03-19 16:49 RyoKazuka: but you aint on
2017-03-19 16:49 RyoKazuka: and like i said
2017-03-19 16:49 RyoKazuka: IM DESPERATE
2017-03-19 16:49 Exote: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1208035 BilliumMoto - HDHR [Expert]]
2017-03-19 16:49 RyoKazuka: so went on to pm him saying im ready
2017-03-19 16:49 Exote: man
2017-03-19 16:49 RyoKazuka: WHICH IM NOT SO READY TBH
2017-03-19 16:51 RyoKazuka: first point
2017-03-19 16:51 RyoKazuka: It's not more pleasant xP. the clicking rhythm is 3/4 and theres a clearly stronger note that lands on the white tick.
2017-03-19 16:51 Exote: sec
2017-03-19 16:51 Exote: let me
2017-03-19 16:51 Exote: first take a lok
2017-03-19 16:51 Exote: ok
2017-03-19 16:51 Exote: so
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: you're aware why
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: 00:30:895 (3,4,5) -
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: his
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: line here
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: doesn surpsie me at all
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: what he wants u to do is
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: 00:31:229 - make this here clickable
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: cuz the sound is
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: STRONG
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: yes, its consistent now
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: and yes, its more pleasent
2017-03-19 16:52 Exote: but u lose alot of power
2017-03-19 16:53 RyoKazuka: N I N J A
2017-03-19 16:53 RyoKazuka: ok
2017-03-19 16:53 RyoKazuka: i think
2017-03-19 16:53 RyoKazuka: i understand now
2017-03-19 16:53 Exote: yea
2017-03-19 16:53 Exote: emphasis stuff
2017-03-19 16:53 Exote: if the sound is MUCH Stronger than the rest of this area
2017-03-19 16:53 Exote: then u must make it clickable
2017-03-19 16:53 Exote: well not must, but it's recommended u do so
2017-03-19 16:53 Exote: so it makes sense
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: i tend to make the map looked more mbc winner material
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: i c
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: but if the suggestion is a mbc winner material
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: then
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: ok
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: anyway
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: wait fixing
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: http://puu.sh/uQ5Mq/aaa52e5c15.jpg
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: there
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: u have it
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: easy fix
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: ill adjust it to be more
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: comfortable to play
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: sure
2017-03-19 16:54 RyoKazuka: i dont like that patterning
2017-03-19 16:54 Exote: ill look at the 2nd part
2017-03-19 16:55 Exote: line
2017-03-19 16:55 Exote: *
2017-03-19 16:55 RyoKazuka: sure
2017-03-19 16:55 RyoKazuka: ay
2017-03-19 16:56 Exote: 02:20:895 (2,3,4) -
2017-03-19 16:56 Exote: im giving u
2017-03-19 16:56 Exote: the easy fix as well
2017-03-19 16:56 Exote: and the best imo
2017-03-19 16:56 Exote: http://puu.sh/uQ5Uz/fae134d072.jpg
2017-03-19 16:56 Exote: thats literally bomb
2017-03-19 16:56 Exote: must use imo
2017-03-19 16:58 RyoKazuka: okok wait
2017-03-19 16:59 Exote: ugh
2017-03-19 16:59 Exote: the third point
2017-03-19 16:59 Exote: he alreasdy told u how to fix
2017-03-19 16:59 Exote: idk why didnt u do so xd
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: tell me when you're ready
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: so we can discuss it real quick
2017-03-19 17:00 RyoKazuka: ok i fixd it
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: ok so
2017-03-19 17:00 RyoKazuka: do you wanna see
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: wait
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: whab tou the third point?
2017-03-19 17:00 RyoKazuka: first point so far
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: yea yea
2017-03-19 17:00 RyoKazuka: lemme see second point
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: lets fix all of those
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: and then
2017-03-19 17:00 Exote: im here dw
2017-03-19 17:01 RyoKazuka: holy
2017-03-19 17:02 RyoKazuka: your seuggestion is
2017-03-19 17:02 RyoKazuka: DA BOMB
2017-03-19 17:02 Exote: YASSSS
2017-03-19 17:02 RyoKazuka: this plays better tbh
2017-03-19 17:02 Exote: yep
2017-03-19 17:02 RyoKazuka: damn son
2017-03-19 17:02 Exote: reminds me of skystar
2017-03-19 17:02 Exote: that kind of pattern
2017-03-19 17:02 Exote: so its a win win
2017-03-19 17:02 Exote: ;6)
2017-03-19 17:02 Exote: brbbbbb why u fix
2017-03-19 17:04 RyoKazuka: :^))))))))))))
2017-03-19 17:04 RyoKazuka: fixd seconf
2017-03-19 17:04 RyoKazuka: third
2017-03-19 17:04 RyoKazuka: now
2017-03-19 17:04 RyoKazuka: ok third
2017-03-19 17:04 RyoKazuka: point
2017-03-19 17:05 RyoKazuka: i really dont understand
2017-03-19 17:05 RyoKazuka: english iz badz sorry for my badz englizh
2017-03-19 17:06 Exote: ok
2017-03-19 17:06 Exote: so
2017-03-19 17:06 Exote: i didnt explain yet
2017-03-19 17:06 Exote: the third one
2017-03-19 17:06 RyoKazuka: like
2017-03-19 17:06 Exote: 02:48:895 (3) -
2017-03-19 17:06 Exote: tehres a snare
2017-03-19 17:06 RyoKazuka: wat does he wants me to emphasize
2017-03-19 17:07 RyoKazuka: theres the
2017-03-19 17:07 RyoKazuka: whistle sound
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: and u want to emphize
2017-03-19 17:07 RyoKazuka: and kick + finish sound
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: in the song
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: thers a snare
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: not in ur map
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: so
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: the thing is
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: 02:48:784 (2) -
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: beacuse u have this
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: here
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: it kinda underpowers the next strong sound
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: and it is as if you[re not emphasizing anything
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: get it?
2017-03-19 17:07 RyoKazuka: you want me to space it?
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: no
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: remove 2
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: 02:48:784 (2) -
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: because of 2
2017-03-19 17:07 Exote: 3 loses its power
2017-03-19 17:08 Exote: plays like a regular stream
2017-03-19 17:08 RyoKazuka: but then
2017-03-19 17:08 RyoKazuka: the momentum will be weird
2017-03-19 17:08 RyoKazuka: having to stop 02:48:784 (2) - here for a while
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: 02:47:229 (1,2) -
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: ?
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: u have the same thing here
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: slider 1
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: u stop
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: and then 2
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: he wants u to do the same thing
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: kickslider
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: stop
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: and then blue tick
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: meaning u have to remove 2
2017-03-19 17:09 Exote: it plays fine dw
2017-03-19 17:10 RyoKazuka: oooooooooooooooooooooo
2017-03-19 17:10 RyoKazuka: okokokok
2017-03-19 17:10 RyoKazuka: now i get it
2017-03-19 17:10 Exote: ;)
2017-03-19 17:11 RyoKazuka: his explanation is so high level im getting left out lol
2017-03-19 17:11 RyoKazuka: okok
2017-03-19 17:11 Exote: eeh
2017-03-19 17:11 Exote: maybe
2017-03-19 17:11 RyoKazuka: its like
2017-03-19 17:11 RyoKazuka: ' what does he wants actually ' lmao
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: i think im the at the dumb side
2017-03-19 17:12 Exote: XD
2017-03-19 17:12 Exote: well
2017-03-19 17:12 Exote: ur gettin the map ranked anyway
2017-03-19 17:12 Exote: u must be used to it
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: o
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: ok
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: now i know why i map like this
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: 02:48:562 (1,2,3,1) -
2017-03-19 17:12 Exote: ye[p
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: 02:48:784 (2) - here that sound here
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: at the very beginning
2017-03-19 17:12 RyoKazuka: i map every sound
2017-03-19 17:13 RyoKazuka: i mean
2017-03-19 17:13 Exote: yeaa
2017-03-19 17:13 RyoKazuka: this section
2017-03-19 17:13 RyoKazuka: including the
2017-03-19 17:13 RyoKazuka: 02:33:229 (2,3) - the weird hi hats
2017-03-19 17:13 Exote: its not bad to map anything u hear
2017-03-19 17:14 Exote: as long as u emphasize the right stuff

thanks for modding
Monstrata
Changes look good. Let's get this on the road now. It's been too long xD.
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka
ay thanks monstra xd
Aurele
yaay!! <3
Pentori
the 1/8 slider end jumps in expert are honestly ridiculous.. they're just so unnatural to play and really hard to predict because you don't make changes in spacing between 1/4 and 1/8 gaps

also with sliders like 01:05:229 (2) - 01:06:117 (2) - etc. ur skipping over the more audible sounds on the blue ticks 01:05:340 - 01:06:229 . snapping to those instead would follow the more dominating melody
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka
reduced MOST 1/8 snapped sliders to 1/4, there might be 1/8s around but they are used consistently, its also present for the sake of difficulty progression and also for variation to make the diff more colorful and not too easy or too boring to play

and for rhythms like 01:05:229 (2,3) -
i tend to keep them to make the map more challenging
but mostly because of its unique rhythm usage

thanks for modding
Aurele
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka
aspire results coming near D:
Monstrata
Rebubbled~
Gero
Congratulations!

~ click the circles! to the beat! ~
_DT3
Ayy, finally gratz Ryo!
I remember you saying that you wouldn't stop participating in the contests till you won, now's the time LOL
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka


AAAA THANKS SO MUCH

ESPECIALLY GABE BECAUSE I POKED HIM TOO MUCH
AND SPECIAL THANKS TO EXOTE AND HOOT FOR STAYING UNTIL THE END

Exote
Yay finally \o/ good job meng <69
Aurele
CONGRATULATION! <3
Haruto

RyoKazuka wrote:

ay thanks monstra xd
only me can call him monstra. thanks /jk

Congratulations Ryo~
Shmiklak
Grats man!
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka


omg haru xd

thank you guys for grazzlessss

Krimek
Grats buddy, this map totaly deserved it
Rumia-
gratz!!
Gaia
00:50:340 (1) - 01:59:229 (1) - these are rankable? lol wew

congratz
7ambda

Gaia wrote:

00:50:340 (1) - 01:59:229 (1) - these are rankable? lol wew

congratz
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... e_changes/

Exote
@Gaia

of course, the bumps are pretty obvious and easily recognizable
HabiHolic
Nice Ryka!!
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka
ay thanks again guys
CSLM
Wow, I didn't know that winner was finally said
Congratz! :3
anna apple
the timing in the section for the first 6 or 7 seconds is off because it requires a different offset or bpm
Topic Starter
RyoKazuka
finally ranked!

thanks again and ill be taking my leave as soon as the result page is out c:
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