1. '85 (3,56 stars, 578 notes)
2. Krfawy & Voli's Advanced (2,97 stars, 439 notes)
3. Normal (1,87 stars, 269 notes)

zev wrote:

Hello! my 6th mod of the day =w=

general

*This mp3 sounds surprisingly pretty high quality and good despite it being 112kbs loool its the mp3 from the 2008 map so if its bad i'll have to fix it somehow

*That intro is totally mappable it, why did you decide to not map it? theres some interessing stuff going on! i really dont like mapping 18 secs instrumentals before songs sorry :c

*Your volume is pretty low xd, or soft samples blend in too much cause of the cymbals the song use xd, i just wanna smack drum samples on that hmm maybe the hs will fix it who knows, otherwise i might adjust volme ill see when i hitsound it

[nostalgia]

00:19:380 (3,4,5) - but but, triplet emphasizes the red and there no note there :/ , reverse slider i c but i'd really rather have a triple than a reverse simply because reverse would be so ugly/mess up the spacing in this pattern D:

Please tell me you are going to hitsound these guitars with soft-whistles hmmmmm perhaps!

00:20:880 (1,3) - your y-cords tho, i'm thinking you want it to be the same with 00:21:130 (2) - y: 192 lmao fuck ok

00:22:380 (5,1) - I like this flow, the slider gives enough time for the jump xD ayyy

00:23:880 (4,5) - I don't like this part, the jump from 3 towards 4 is a bit too large and the placement is somewhat to much arranged to the left side of the playfield kinda breaking the sensitive symmetry aesthetics

(5) plays counterintuitive and these 00:24:880 (1,2) - guitar jumps are fine but, they kinda losed their emphasize cause of previous jumps agree fixedd i think its better now

00:31:130 (2,3,4) - seven pixels to the right? xd ya

00:31:255 (3) - vocal triplet on white tick ftw i agree!

00:31:630 (5) - rather have this stacked at the sliderend instead of the sliderhead cause spacing might be a bit too big, hard to fix asethetics tho its ok i got this

00:32:380 (7,1,2) - speaks for itself is that acceptabe to you?

SPOILER

00:33:130 (2,3,4,5,6) - What happend to yer symmetry (2) is uneven compared to the rest of these 00:33:880 (5,6,7) - is ctrl+j'd version of the other pattern yo

00:35:380 (2,3,4,5,6) - Pretty nice how these vocals land on these streams good shit

00:42:630 (9) - y:112 no

You have a lot of triplets with 5 notes, they are nice for resetting the symmetry, but i rather see 5 notes streams tbh xd how can a triples have 5 notes really zev

01:06:880 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - the vocalist says "nineteen" but its kept being emphasized differently in this rhythm, if you want to make it in sync vvvv

SPOILER

hmm i cant seem to make a good pattern out of that tho

01:41:130 (2,4) - I would select those and ctrl+g so the clap doesn't have smaller in spacing in that pattern. nice idea

02:11:380 (3) - i see this in all your maps XD best slidershape and ez to make!

02:16:880 (1,2,3,4) - nice visual compliment to the guitar! best patterns and ez to make!

02:19:380 (1,2,3) - these things look a bit uneven 02:19:380 (1) - u look uneven lol jk but i like them as they are
02:21:380 (3,4,5) - ^

02:39:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - dudenice i don't know how to even make stars dude polygon creator

There are some triplets in the song at the last kiai that you didn't map, Is that intentional? just making sure yeah coz i wanted to emphasize other things (for example when vocals are strong af i like single notes better), i do that sometimes


might wanna set a preview point voli ya

riktoi wrote:

[nostalgia]

00:19:880 (6,7) - it's more aesthetically pleasing for these to curve based on the hitcircle position here 00:19:380 (3,4,5) - . basically still plays the same way fixed (at least i think this is what u meant)

00:25:380 (3,4,5,6) - should be hitcirculs since vocals follow 1/2 nah i feel 6 circles are a bit overkill for a part without bg music

00:26:380 (5) - this one doesn't have to follow the symmetry that these follow 00:27:380 (3,4) - as it's a different combo agree fixed

00:27:380 (3,4,5,6) - dunno try something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7271500 why 2 circlez its just one long vocal no bg music

00:31:880 (6) - put this slightly more lower so your intention for this angling is more apparent (00:31:130 (2,3,4,5,6) - for this pattern i mean) decreased a bit i gues

00:33:880 (5,6) - can safely put a bit sharper angles here so you can emphasize 00:34:380 (7) - better ok brought the middle note a bit down for vocal emphasis

00:39:380 (2,3,4,5,6) - adding slight wiggle to this would be cool (shake shake) lool why not!

00:42:380 (8,9) - I'd have lower spacing for this as the change in patterning is a bit fast to fully expect (fine to ignore since it would break symmetry) pattern plays fine imo + i like how it looks atm

00:53:380 (3) - this to the left and 00:54:380 (6) - for similar reasons as pointed above somewhere agree fixed

01:46:880 (1) - point towards 01:47:380 (2) - fixed

02:26:880 (1) - would move more to the left and a bit down to avoid the awkward angle i guess nah cuz i like to emphasize the downbeat a bit there

nice

[normal]

00:33:380 (4) - make angle less rough (something closer to this 00:40:880 (2) - )ok i tried

that's all since normal is fine for what it has so far

didn't check zev's mod so hopefully i'm not repeating whatever he pointed out

HighTec wrote:

01:02:380 (6,1) - deze transactie voelt raar aangezien er eerst veel meer spacing van tevoren aanwezig is en dit het momentum redelijk breekt, ook is het een beetje awkward angle om te spelen. kzou kijken of je dit veranderen kan Heb het aangepast, dank je wel
01:10:880 (1,2,3) - could be equally spaced lo no cuz clap emphasis on slider!
01:31:380 (3,4,5) - dit had makkelijk een perfecte driehoek kunnen zijn tbh, aangezien de symmetry hier niet al te sterk is dit is toch al een perfecte driehoek wat moet je dan nog jonge
01:33:380 (4,5,6,7,8) - ben hier niet al te zeker van of je dit wilt mappen. het mag dan wel prima in het lied zitten maar ik denk dat wat consistency in rythm wat beter is op dit moment maar is consistent met 00:39:380 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:35:380 (2,3,4,5,6) - etc.
02:35:380 (1) - rip emphasis ): ik vond het juist een goede omdat de rest van de muziek wegvalt

When U Try To Mod But Everybody Stole The Good Points

Arphimigon wrote:

[Nostalgia]
00:23:380 (3,4,5) - Feels much more compact and low spaced to the other patterns in this section, compare to 00:21:380 (3,4,5) - 00:25:380 (3,4,5) - 00:27:380 (3,4,5) - 00:29:380 (3,4,5) - etcetcetc fixed
00:29:380 (3) - 1 pixel right for blanket fixed
01:16:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The spacing in this feels so offffff, I hoped that 01:18:130 (7) - could be a jump up, keeping the up and down jump stuff and not having a random low spaced jump too moved stuff around a bit
01:48:380 (6) - 2 right 2 down blankit fixed
02:31:380 (1,2) - I always messed up playing dis lol, its so weird to have a spaced 1/4 between sliders when *the rest of the map has 1/4 spacings after sliders that dont have a gap* 00:34:380 (7,1) - example u just too weak

*fly*~

Metaku wrote:

M4M

[General]
Maybe tweak diff settings a bit? AR 5 with OD 3 and HP 2 seems kinda unbalanced imo, also OD 8 a bit high for 3,5* ? tweaked HP to 3 on normal to balance things out, keeping od8 for now because it's basically mapped like a light insane with streams, jumps, 1/4 sliders etc. I'd think it's rather fitting here
Also I'd increase offset a bit, maybe +3 or so?
Could add some tags I guess will do once the set is complete
Audio bitrate under 128kbps so maybe you could consider finding a better onewill do if i can :p
Not sure about the spread tbh, seems quite a big jump in difficulty as Normal has only some 1/2 circle rhythms while 1985 has 7 note 1/4 streams so maybe try to fill an advanced/hard diff in between? [color=#0080FFK]Krfawy is (hopefully) making an adv! owo[/color]
Cool song tbh

[Normal]
00:38:883 (1,2,1) - Might be a bit confusing pattern for a normal as the slider points at 1 while the next note is actually blanketed Fixed
00:38:883 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Also what happened with the ncing here? Fixed
01:13:883 (5) - ctrl + j ? hmm bit iffy but i'll do that for now i guess
01:36:883 (5) - rip spacing fixed
01:51:383 (1) - Hmm maybe a bit more volume? It's really difficult to hear anykind of hitsound right now. 25%? well since the music drops down volume very low... :p
02:48:883 (6,7,8,1) - Same as earlier, not sure about the patterning here i think it's more obvious here as there's plenty of spacing between the notes and the slider, so keeping for now

[1985]

Hmm the spacing is rather inconsistent in many places and kinda lacks a structure sometimes.
00:33:130 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Patterns like this just hmm... Could look better and have clearer structure tbh I don't really know what to do with that suggestion though without some kind of example/suggestion to make it better as it looks fine for me and the beats are emphasized correctly
00:41:880 (6,9) - Hmm not really a nice looking overlap and it really doesn't fit that well with the 00:41:380 (4,5,6,7,8) - pattern imo fixed
00:54:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I'd like to see more this kind of clearly structure patterns as most of your patterns really lack structure sorry im not going to make every one of my patterns a boring polygon shape, i handmade most of my patterns on purpose, been there done that..
01:03:380 (3,4) - Kinda big jump imo compared to rest of the pattern fixed
01:21:380 (3,4,5) - Nice symmetry thanks :p
01:56:130 (6,7) - maybe ctrl g? The current spacing between 5 and 6 / 6 and 7 doesn't kinda work with the rest of the pattern and the music doesn't really support such a sudden change either. except it does, as i'm emphasizing the clap on (7)
02:18:880 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - What happened to ncing here? if you want to nc vocals then you should move nc from 02:20:880 (1) - to 02:21:380 (3) - fixed
02:55:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Kinda awkward to play such long wide angle pattern fixed
03:10:880 (1) - Maybe move forward to downbeat? The vocals start there and it would also make more sense to end the spinner here 03:12:130 - imofixed

Hmm overall I feel like some of your symmetry is kinda forced and doesn't really fit the song too well but I really like symmetry as a style nonetheless, maybe try to make it feel more natural because some of the spacings forced by symmetry just don't really fit imho.

1. This is totally less denser than my normal tho and the AR is at 5. Even tho it goes well. Its just too much to be on the first difficulti
2. 00:40:380 (3,4,5,6) - Why not the same rhythm as 00:36:380 (4,5,6,7) - , The one you used earlier was pretty cool but the one at 00:40:880 - under emphasizes the vocals
3. and same for 00:44:880 (4,5,6) -
4. 00:49:380 (3,4,5) - All those Strong guitars on slider ends and reverses should really be clickable since they are much stronger than the drums atleast
5. 01:08:880 (1,2) - 02:08:880 (1,2) - Consistency?
6. 03:10:380 (2) - I know the pattern is cool and all but having this same as 03:08:380 (2,2) - makes the first two feel underemphasized since the song goes 03:10:380 - Dead here . giving this circle similar spacing or stuff doesnt suit it well so maybe 03:09:880 (1) - make this repeat ?

1. 00:27:880 (4) - Having that vocal at 00:28:380 - executed on slider end feels really bad because its strong and also theres a strong snare aswell so yeah you should make that one clickable
2. 00:59:880 (10,11,12,13,14) - This is something you should seriously change. Both of these stacks are the part of same combo. They are even next to each BUT one is 1/4 and the other one is 1/2. This is confuse the living hell out of newbies since the difficulty is supposed to be for newbies right?
3. 01:01:880 (4,5) - Really random stop of movement here. Makes no sense to me why you would stack these while the rest of the circles are DS'd.
4. 01:04:630 (1,5) - Ok right the pattern is cool because of symmetry but the second slider has no 1/4 sounds to support yet its mapped with the same thing.
   it might not matter that much to you but the slider at 01:04:630 (1) - becomes really under emphasized that way
5. you should atleast remove kiai from break lol
6. 01:18:880 (1) - You have two circles for those guitars in the next patterns but not here which is pretty inconsistent and also pretty not-so-cool because having two circles goes really nicely with the guitars because the guitar sounds are strong
7. 02:35:130 (8,1) - Don't you think this spacing is just too much for this difficulty? lol if you try to compare it with the rest of your difficulty you will see the difference
8. 02:54:880 (4,5) - same as 01:01:880 (4,5) -
9. 03:00:880 (9,10,11,12,13) - this one has same problem as 00:59:880 (10,11,12,13,14) -

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Normal]

1. This is totally less denser than my normal tho and the AR is at 5. Even tho it goes well. Its just too much to be on the first difficulti ok, lowered to 4,5
2. 00:40:380 (3,4,5,6) - Why not the same rhythm as 00:36:380 (4,5,6,7) - , The one you used earlier was pretty cool but the one at 00:40:880 - under emphasizes the vocals its'a different vocal sequence, i prefer not repeating the same part so many times
3. and same for 00:44:880 (4,5,6) -
4. 00:49:380 (3,4,5) - All those Strong guitars on slider ends and reverses should really be clickable since they are much stronger than the drums atleast i prefer having the vocal starts clickable though. its kind of one or the other with a normal diff
5. 01:08:880 (1,2) - 02:08:880 (1,2) - Consistency? well, theyre 1 minute apart. idk lol, they're different contexts and i dont think anyone will really notice something being a bit different 1 minute later into the map
6. 03:10:380 (2) - I know the pattern is cool and all but having this same as 03:08:380 (2,2) - makes the first two feel underemphasized since the song goes 03:10:380 - Dead here . giving this circle similar spacing or stuff doesnt suit it well so maybe 03:09:880 (1) - make this repeat ? good idea

[Advanced]

1. 00:27:880 (4) - Having that vocal at 00:28:380 - executed on slider end feels really bad because its strong and also theres a strong snare aswell so yeah you should make that one clickable a release after a relatively long hold can also emphasize well though, i think that is what krfawy wanted to achieve, its also consistent with the next pattern so i wont touch it=
2. 00:59:880 (10,11,12,13,14) - This is something you should seriously change. Both of these stacks are the part of same combo. They are even next to each BUT one is 1/4 and the other one is 1/2. This is confuse the living hell out of newbies since the difficulty is supposed to be for newbies right? its the middle difficulty, so newbies is a bit exaggerated imo XD, i dont think it plays that off though? the stacks occur in more of the parts and its not like you'll misread a double for a triple?
3. 01:01:880 (4,5) - Really random stop of movement here. Makes no sense to me why you would stack these while the rest of the circles are DS'd. they belong to the same vocal, and by stopping momentum you create a jump towards the next circle which is a clap. that makes sense to me
4. 01:04:630 (1,5) - Ok right the pattern is cool because of symmetry but the second slider has no 1/4 sounds to support yet its mapped with the same thing.
   it might not matter that much to you but the slider at 01:04:630 (1) - becomes really under emphasized that way agree, i changed the slider
5. you should atleast remove kiai from break lol done
6. 01:18:880 (1) - You have two circles for those guitars in the next patterns but not here which is pretty inconsistent and also pretty not-so-cool because having two circles goes really nicely with the guitars because the guitar sounds are strong agree, fixed
7. 02:35:130 (8,1) - Don't you think this spacing is just too much for this difficulty? lol if you try to compare it with the rest of your difficulty you will see the difference moved it more towards the middle
8. 02:54:880 (4,5) - same as 01:01:880 (4,5) - same
9. 03:00:880 (9,10,11,12,13) - this one has same problem as 00:59:880 (10,11,12,13,14) - same

Will mod top difficulty later and edit post or make a new post or something later.
Checked insane, looks p cool already.
gl

Krfawy wrote:

I have no idea what happened in Normal difficulty but Dear Lord 00:40:130 (2,3) - these hitsounds must be reversed. XD fixed
01:18:880 (1,2) - And tbh this sounds kind of dumb, there is a significant sound and that would sound great if created some kind of rest for the player's clicking hand, like how about you extend the slider to the note #1 and the note #2 would be deleted, now it's really note-heavy here. the sound on 1 is way too strong to extend thgough :/
01:51:380 (1) - And this is so weak and almost inaudible and not predictable for noobies here that it would be better if mapped with a sliderend (reversing arrow please) I believe. :C nooo, i like the last note as stop there, i mean its still very predictable too with how the rhythm goes so..
02:25:880 (6) - The hitsound on the reversing arrow is missing. fixed
02:28:880 (4,5) - "Slider-circle" section instead of current "circle-slider" would work better here, now it plays kind of dumb... The rhythmicality is off now. x'D i see your point, but 2 circles consecutively is something i'd rather avoid there
02:37:130 (1) - Oh I like it. o3o thanks :3
Also why did you lower AR to just 4.5? D: Now it's unreadable due to everything appearing so slowly so it creates huge chunks of objects covering close areas of the background, it is really unreadable for newer and nooby-booby players and just the fact that it is not so dense doesn't mean AR should be so slow, there are other factors that define AR usage. Bring AR5 back or something ever higher, now the clusters make me feel claustrophobic. ;_; i agree xD, brought it back!

In Advancedu: 02:41:380 (10) - Moo, I forgot to add a clap. X'D fixed

Also, where are hugs for Krfawys? owo

Voli wrote:

actually, i'm the best songwriter but okay

Kuron-kun wrote:

Hi there (specially Krfawy again)! You have 1/2s directly overlapping in Advanced and that's now allowed. Please increase stacking leniency to at least 3.

Also you have a missing hitclap here 02:26:370 (4) - in highest diff.