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Sayuri - Heikousen

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Starset
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Kin wrote:

Hi ~
good job guys, my heart is really racing with the music & SB. You don't know how I'm feeling weird right now ;w;

[HB's Insane]

  1. 00:11:056 (3,4) - according to how you used your sliders to follow vocal on your previous pattern, I think the timeline should be something like this. //there are no sound on white tick unlike my previous pattern
  2. 00:12:678 (7,1) - same thing goes here. (those are the only one which are like this on the whole slow part) //same here too
  3. 01:03:108 (1,3) - I know this copy paste is intentional. But I really feel like this slider 01:03:108 (1) - should be 2 circles. Your combo is following the vocal, and by doing so, you can really emphasize this really strong vocal double note. As example something like this flow well and follow the vocal & drum with spacing & flow. //my combo is not following vocal lol and neither my rythm since im following bg music and drums to be precise
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna
okay updated my changes.
sahuang
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sahuang
ok
Lumario
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Lumario
Hey it's me Lumario, from my modding queue (^.^)/

General:
I don't know if you care but your map has the same bg as this ranked one https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1179870

HB's Insane:
00:12:678 (6) - I think the Rhythm choice is weird here. You mapped sounds like this 00:05:380 (4,5) - 00:08:624 (3,4) - but you ignored the ones in this slider, so here's a better example http://puu.sh/u2RUE/e8994dddfc.jpg

Hard:
You mapped this sound here once 00:02:745 (2) - at the starting part why not mapping it here 00:05:988 (2) - or here 00:09:232 (2) - etc. too?
00:18:353 (1,2) - and 00:15:110 (1,2) - are basically the same, why did you map them differently?

I guess I've come to late to the party to pull out a significant mod ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hope it helps anyway,
GL Luma
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna

My Angel Azusa wrote:

ok
Thank you thank you Hyped! >w<

Lumario wrote:

Hey it's me Lumario, from my modding queue (^.^)/

General:
I don't know if you care but your map has the same bg as this ranked one https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1179870 yes i know its fine i like the bg choice its from same source


Hard:
You mapped this sound here once 00:02:745 (2) - at the starting part why not mapping it here 00:05:988 (2) - or here 00:09:232 (2) - etc. too?
00:18:353 (1,2) - and 00:15:110 (1,2) - are basically the same, why did you map them differently? i idont get what u mean they are mapped, u highlighted them lol and for the sliders i think u mean differnly as the shape i dont see problem its just a style they both flow fine

I guess I've come to late to the party to pull out a significant mod ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hope it helps anyway,
GL Luma
thank u
ps if HB make change from this mod ill updated with second bn.
Starset
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Starset

Lumario wrote:

Hey it's me Lumario, from my modding queue (^.^)/

General:
I don't know if you care but your map has the same bg as this ranked one https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1179870

HB's Insane:
00:12:678 (6) - I think the Rhythm choice is weird here. You mapped sounds like this 00:05:380 (4,5) - 00:08:624 (3,4) - but you ignored the ones in this slider, so here's a better example http://puu.sh/u2RUE/e8994dddfc.jpg
its same section as this 00:06:191 (6,1) -and 00:01:326 (2,3) -
Arusamour
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Arusamour
holy moly already bubbled gl
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna
Thank uuu
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind
Sayuri so good
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna

Zero__wind wrote:

Sayuri so good
Yessss <3
Doyak
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Doyak
Let's improve some hitsounds on easier diffs before we go again. Right now the hitsounds are nothing but a copy&paste from Insane diff, which caused a huge lack of hitsounds on some parts.

In case of the kiai on Easy diff, you can only rarely hear loud claps on very few spots, while the most of the clickable objects hold no additional hitsounds at all. It would be much better if you altered the hitsound pattern to fit the actual notes in this diff.

I won't point out every single places that need improvement, but I'll give some brief opinions from other BNs (thanks Bonsai and Wafu)







So take a deep look on the easier diffs and try to create a proper hitsound indication for that specific difficulty, then call me back and I'll write a proper mod. I'll need to mod hitsound later anyway, so would be better to mod this once you're done with fixing overall hitsounds.
Bonsai
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Bonsai
whoa that's me

posting bc I provided an example of how to hitsound the Easy-Kiais :D/
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna
well did my best fixed hitsound of each difficulty lot of change and added more hitsounds on lower difficulties also added drum samplesets on whistles and claps so they become more audible! updated. thank u guys!
Doyak
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Alright, now Easy and Normal seems good!

I heard from Sonnyc that 1x1 sb image causes some error on fallback version, so you can check p/5815836 this post to fix it. He also said changing it to 2x2 would be another solution.

[Hard]
* 00:02:745 (2) - This seemed like a bit of random 1/2. I mean you stick to the vocals pretty much on the whole intro but this one is out of place. You didn't put it on 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - etc.
* 00:17:137 (2,3) - These are the only extended-vocal-1/2 sliders in the whole part. Imo it would be more consistent to use a 1/1 slider or a 1/1 reverse slider instead.
* 00:18:353 (1,2) - They look really unbalanced, because you see, those sliders are not exact vertical; (1) is facing a little downward. So move (2) a bit down, or re-balance both sliders to be exactly horizontal.
* From 00:29:339 - to 00:39:391 - . This part is the hardest of the whole map, even though the song is mush less intense than the kiai. Just delete the notes between these and the SR is 2.89. When you delete the whole kiai, it's only 3.21. This is quite opposite than how the song's intensity is.
So I think you need to remove some unimportant notes and use more sliders instead of circles. Like you can consider to remove 00:32:323 (2) - 00:33:579 (2) - , change 00:34:993 (3,4,5) - into a 1/2 reverse slider, bind 00:36:564 (5,6) - 00:37:663 (4,5) - into a 1/2 slider. Wow, only that already decreases SR to 3.04.
Then you would want to make the kiai a bit harder, as it's too easy as the highlight part.
* I feel the kiai can have better rhythm than it has now. It's not bad, but it can be a little more detailed.

For example, 00:49:443 (1,2,3,4) - is generally a vocal-following rhythm, however it ignores 00:50:229 - this drumbeat and instead has a note on 00:49:914 (2) - this weak beat. On the other hand 00:50:700 (1,2,3,4) - is full of 1/2s, and I kinda feel it a bit random instead of following a certain sound layer correctly.
So instead of that you can try https://puu.sh/udgaK/b1bc4cef23.jpg to represent all important sounds more efficiently.

This almost repeats for the entire kiai and I made a rhythm sample for you to understand better. https://puu.sh/udhlS/f37fb3f5dc.osu This should provide enough difficulty on the kiai as well.

[HB's Insane]
Yo, it's been a while since p/5269537
* 00:02:745 (4) - 00:09:232 (4) - 00:14:097 (2) - 00:15:718 (5) - 00:23:826 (2) - They look really random for me to be honest. Like could you explain why 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - 00:07:610 - 00:10:853 - 00:20:583 - don't have a note while they're basically the same sounds?
* 00:39:234 - has really a clear drum beat as much as 00:38:448 (2,3,4,5,6) - , so pass through it?

Your rhythm on the kiai is weird because you're changing your focus so randomly. This is clearly seen on how you handled 00:50:543 - this kind of drumbeats. Your focus is not on that beat but instead 00:50:700 - this vocal, but on 01:10:647 - , which is 95% similar, you almost neglected the vocal and focused on the drumbeat. Things like 01:03:108 (1) - should rather be good to use circle + 1/2 slider because both sounds have vocal, still you used a 1/2 slider to weaken 01:03:265 - this beat.

So here is a list of the parts that have this problem (strong drum on red tick but strong vocal on white tick)
red tick: 00:53:056 - 00:58:082 - 01:00:595 - 01:03:108 - 01:10:647 - 01:15:674 - 01:18:187 -
white tick: 00:50:700 - 00:55:726 - 01:05:778 - 01:20:857 - 01:23:370 -

They make me wonder if you really want to follow that drum sound, because the map mostly is focused on the vocals but you switch between them so randomly. For another example, 01:03:893 (4,5) - look how these are focused on the vocals while you just neglected (I consider sliderend as neglecting when the map is full of jumps) 01:03:265 - this loud vocal sound.

Also some other things I don't agree:
* 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I totally disagree with representing 1/1-strong sounds like this. Each beat of notes are supposed to represent sound(s) on that specific beat, not something around it. Therefore putting jumps on every 1/2s while the sound is only strong at 1/1s is inappropriate imo. Also, why 01:22:113 (6) - is being alone while it is a part of the vocal 'group' with 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ?
* 00:50:386 (5) - 00:55:412 (5) - 01:02:951 (5) - 01:15:517 (5) - etc. They are just being a part of the massive jumps. However, the song isn't constructed with monotone drums. The drum on 00:50:386 - is a lot different than others and that is what creates the unique drum patterns in this song. I'm sad to see them being represented like a simple common drum patterns.
* 00:56:354 (3,4,5) - They're quite intense but the scale is too little?

And to be honest, the structure of the kiai is a bit messy. It's not too bad, but I decided to be more strict to myself.



So sorry Lilyanna, I think you have to find someone else. You can call Azusa too.
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna

Doyak wrote:

Alright, now Easy and Normal seems good!

I heard from Sonnyc that 1x1 sb image causes some error on fallback version, so you can check p/5815836 this post to fix it. He also said changing it to 2x2 would be another solution.

[Hard]
* 00:02:745 (2) - This seemed like a bit of random 1/2. I mean you stick to the vocals pretty much on the whole intro but this one is out of place. You didn't put it on 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - etc. how can that be randome lol i make every syllable of her vocals clickable and when her vocal aka any syllable is missiing i mapped the piano which i did same here 00:19:975 (1,2,3) - the reason why i didnt put it on ther is because i was focusing on the vocals to highlight it if i map the piano there the vocals wont be expressed as it should
* 00:17:137 (2,3) - These are the only extended-vocal-1/2 sliders in the whole part. Imo it would be more consistent to use a 1/1 slider or a 1/1 reverse slider instead. variation is okay alot of consistency is kinda dull on such small intro spicying things is fine as long as it make sense and still playes fine i dont see reason to spam 1/1 sliders all way this is a hard difficulty after all i like how it is :)
* 00:18:353 (1,2) - They look really unbalanced, because you see, those sliders are not exact vertical; (1) is facing a little downward. So move (2) a bit down, or re-balance both sliders to be exactly horizontal. moved 2 little down its not rly big thing
* From 00:29:339 - to 00:39:391 - . This part is the hardest of the whole map, even though the song is mush less intense than the kiai. Just delete the notes between these and the SR is 2.89. When you delete the whole kiai, it's only 3.21. This is quite opposite than how the song's intensity is.
So I think you need to remove some unimportant notes and use more sliders instead of circles. Like you can consider to remove 00:32:323 (2) - 00:33:579 (2) - , change 00:34:993 (3,4,5) - into a 1/2 reverse slider, bind 00:36:564 (5,6) - 00:37:663 (4,5) - into a 1/2 slider. Wow, only that already decreases SR to 3.04.
Then you would want to make the kiai a bit harder, as it's too easy as the highlight part. fixed that part like u said only one i didnt bind into 1/2 i felt it can keep it to circles just before the slow section of the song edit: nvm fixed lol
* I feel the kiai can have better rhythm than it has now. It's not bad, but it can be a little more detailed.

For example, 00:49:443 (1,2,3,4) - is generally a vocal-following rhythm, however it ignores 00:50:229 - this drumbeat and instead has a note on 00:49:914 (2) - this weak beat. On the other hand 00:50:700 (1,2,3,4) - is full of 1/2s, and I kinda feel it a bit random instead of following a certain sound layer correctly.
So instead of that you can try https://puu.sh/udgaK/b1bc4cef23.jpg to represent all important sounds more efficiently. each one has a different way of mapping it and i believe both work but here i did mappeed the strong sound u pointed out and in fact did it in 1/1 stack which even emphasize it more i think its fine the way i did it and the reasong why i did those 1/2 repeats because if u listen there is drums so i am following a certain rythm also the vocals match up very nicely i hope i made it clear

This almost repeats for the entire kiai and I made a rhythm sample for you to understand better. https://puu.sh/udhlS/f37fb3f5dc.osu This should provide enough difficulty on the kiai as well.


So sorry Lilyanna, I think you have to find someone else. You can call Azusa too.
thx for ur time
Starset
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Starset

Doyak wrote:

Alright, now Easy and Normal seems good!

I heard from Sonnyc that 1x1 sb image causes some error on fallback version, so you can check p/5815836 this post to fix it. He also said changing it to 2x2 would be another solution.

[HB's Insane]
Yo, it's been a while since p/5269537
* 00:02:745 (4) - 00:09:232 (4) - 00:14:097 (2) - 00:15:718 (5) - 00:23:826 (2) - They look really random for me to be honest. Like could you explain why 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - 00:07:610 - 00:10:853 - 00:20:583 - don't have a note while they're basically the same sounds?
* 00:39:234 - has really a clear drum beat as much as 00:38:448 (2,3,4,5,6) - , so pass through it? //in a previous mod it was told that 00:01:124 - kind of sound is unoticable for the player so i removed and ofc i agreed with it

Your rhythm on the kiai is weird because you're changing your focus so randomly. This is clearly seen on how you handled 00:50:543 - this kind of drumbeats. Your focus is not on that beat but instead 00:50:700 - this vocal, but on 01:10:647 - , which is 95% similar, you almost neglected the vocal and focused on the drumbeat. Things like 01:03:108 (1) - should rather be good to use circle + 1/2 slider because both sounds have vocal, still you used a 1/2 slider to weaken 01:03:265 - this beat.

So here is a list of the parts that have this problem (strong drum on red tick but strong vocal on white tick)
red tick: 00:53:056 - 00:58:082 - 01:00:595 - 01:03:108 - 01:10:647 - 01:15:674 - 01:18:187 -
white tick: 00:50:700 - 00:55:726 - 01:05:778 - 01:20:857 - 01:23:370 -

They make me wonder if you really want to follow that drum sound, because the map mostly is focused on the vocals but you switch between them so randomly. For another example, 01:03:893 (4,5) - look how these are focused on the vocals while you just neglected (I consider sliderend as neglecting when the map is full of jumps) 01:03:265 - this loud vocal sound. //for the kiai i followed only drums and bg music not vocals exept for this part 01:03:893 - i decided to focus on vocals since they are getting pretty important then i got back to my old rythm here 01:09:548 - wich follows drums
Also some other things I don't agree:
* 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I totally disagree with representing 1/1-strong sounds like this. Each beat of notes are supposed to represent sound(s) on that specific beat, not something around it. Therefore putting jumps on every 1/2s while the sound is only strong at 1/1s is inappropriate imo. Also, why 01:22:113 (6) - is being alone while it is a part of the vocal 'group' with 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ? //6 is not the part where vocals start getting intense imo and sry that u dont like it but jumps are the only intense way to represent an intense part of the song i dont want to put slider since it will be easy
* 00:50:386 (5) - 00:55:412 (5) - 01:02:951 (5) - 01:15:517 (5) - etc. They are just being a part of the massive jumps. However, the song isn't constructed with monotone drums. The drum on 00:50:386 - is a lot different than others and that is what creates the unique drum patterns in this song. I'm sad to see them being represented like a simple common drum patterns. //sry im not pro mapper to represent every single sound in a specefic way i give emphasis to the most important note which is 00:50:543 (6) -
* 00:56:354 (3,4,5) - They're quite intense but the scale is too little? //i think its not a huge deal

And to be honest, the structure of the kiai is a bit messy. It's not too bad, but I decided to be more strict to myself.



So sorry Lilyanna, I think you have to find someone else. You can call Azusa too.
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna
fixed the sb its updated
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind
General
preview polint unsnapped, reset to 00:49:443 - in all diffs

Easy
00:37:506 (2) - whistle on head
00:44:417 (1) - consider raising the volume to 55% from this point as the music becomes stronger, same for other diffs

Normal
00:31:380 (5) - whistle on head
00:34:993 (3) - ^
00:37:506 (2) - ^
00:38:134 (4) - clap at end
00:50:071 (2) - whistle on head
00:51:328 (5) - ^ and all other similar ones like 00:52:585 (2,5) - in kiai. Also, plz try this for your Hard diff as well, the kiai needs many more drumbeats

Hard
00:05:988 - recommend to add a circle here to tfollow the keyboard melody, the current 1/1 feels too empty and can be easily misread
00:31:380 (3) - whistle on head
00:33:736 (2) - whistle at end
00:34:993 (3) - what's that drum clap? plz try soft whistle both on its head and at the reversing point
00:37:506 (3) - ^
00:36:406 (4) - whistle
00:58:239 (1) - this doesn't look good as it overlaps with the HP bar heavily, try pointing it to the right, parallel with 00:58:867 (3) - ?

HB's Insane
00:29:967 (5) - whistle at end
00:32:480 (4) - ^
00:31:380 (6) - whistle on head
00:33:893 (6) - whistle
00:35:778 (2) - ^
00:36:407 (5) - ^
00:44:417 (1) - consider raising the volume to 55% from this point as the music becomes stronger
00:46:930 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - try soft clap for all these beats, the current hitsounding aren't even noticeable when the music is so strong
00:50:071 (3,4) - try adding soft whistles for them, and other similar ones in the rest of the kiai like 00:51:328 (3,4) - 00:52:585 (3,4) - 00:53:841 (4) - and more
01:08:291 (1,4) - maybe you can blanket them
01:22:742 (1,1) - don't really think these additional NCs being necessary, you didn't have this kind of usage at other jumping patterns in this map, better remove these NCs
01:26:668 (5) - try a bigger jump here to correspond to the strong vocal? move it to more to the left

call me back after Doyak's rebubble
was expecting to see more parallel sliders
Doyak
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Doyak

Zero__wind wrote:

call me back after Doyak's rebubble
I'm not going to rebubble this, so go for it if you want.
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna

Zero__wind wrote:

General
preview polint unsnapped, reset to 00:49:443 - in all diffs

Easy
00:37:506 (2) - whistle on head
00:44:417 (1) - consider raising the volume to 55% from this point as the music becomes stronger, same for other diffs

Normal
00:31:380 (5) - whistle on head
00:34:993 (3) - ^
00:37:506 (2) - ^
00:38:134 (4) - clap at end
00:50:071 (2) - whistle on head
00:51:328 (5) - ^ and all other similar ones like 00:52:585 (2,5) - in kiai. Also, plz try this for your Hard diff as well, the kiai needs many more drumbeats i already did drum samplesets and they pretty good even adding the whistle its almost same as drum samplesets tbh the whistle im using is not that strong or strongly audible thats why i used it in downbeats with drum samplesets and soft additions so to distinguishe the whistle thats is used in strong downbeat from the other thats why i just used drum samplesets there but if u insist i will change

Hard
00:05:988 - recommend to add a circle here to tfollow the keyboard melody, the current 1/1 feels too empty and can be easily misread tbh they dont feel too empty its just less object for a calm part and in every object there piano sound so adding a note there will ruin the follow of the piano i prefer to keep it like that >w<
00:31:380 (3) - whistle on head
00:33:736 (2) - whistle at end
00:34:993 (3) - what's that drum clap? plz try soft whistle both on its head and at the reversing point
00:37:506 (3) - ^
00:36:406 (4) - whistle
00:58:239 (1) - this doesn't look good as it overlaps with the HP bar heavily, try pointing it to the right, parallel with 00:58:867 (3) - ?

HB's Insane
00:29:967 (5) - whistle at end
00:32:480 (4) - ^
00:31:380 (6) - whistle on head
00:33:893 (6) - whistle
00:35:778 (2) - ^
00:36:407 (5) - ^
00:44:417 (1) - consider raising the volume to 55% from this point as the music becomes stronger
00:46:930 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - try soft clap for all these beats, the current hitsounding aren't even noticeable when the music is so strong
00:50:071 (3,4) - try adding soft whistles for them, and other similar ones in the rest of the kiai like 00:51:328 (3,4) - 00:52:585 (3,4) - 00:53:841 (4) - and more



call me back after Doyak's rebubble
was expecting to see more parallel sliders
no reply = fixed everything above
for the hard i didnt add whistles like u said i explained why but i added more drum samplesets and i added whsitles here on every repeat 00:50:857 -
and for insaned since its mapped differntly i did added the whistles there
i poked My Angel Azusa for rebubble i hope but waiting for second update so HB apply mod

thank you Zero__wind.
Starset
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Starset

Zero__wind wrote:

General
preview polint unsnapped, reset to 00:49:443 - in all diffs
01:08:291 (1,4) - maybe you can blanket them //its not necessary no one would ever notice it anyway
01:22:742 (1,1) - don't really think these additional NCs being necessary, you didn't have this kind of usage at other jumping patterns in this map, better remove these NCs //i think it represents the spacing getting bigger and vocals getting more intense also flow direction is sharp so imo nc is necessary
01:26:668 (5) - try a bigger jump here to correspond to the strong vocal? move it to more to the left //focusing on drums thats why 01:26:825 (6) - should have the most important spacing

call me back after Doyak's rebubble
was expecting to see more parallel sliders
hitsounds fixed by lily and thx for mod
Lilyanna
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Lilyanna
okay back after long period of being tilted >w<
Fixed the gap between hard and insane
ready ;w;
Seijiro
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Seijiro
well, I did say I was going to check the whole mapset last time I checked this (1 month ago)
so here we go

no kd

HB's Insane


  1. 00:20:786 (2) - just for better rhythm, circle? It doesn't seem like there's any important beat on 00:21:191 - , not that requires a click at least
  2. 00:12:678 (6) - in the whole intro (the slow BPM) this is the only strange slider shape, and by strange I mean sort of ugly.
    Isn't there a better option?
  3. 00:23:826 (2) - the whole pattern would benefit without this circle. You're following vocals, yet this circle is just a pain for vocals
  4. 00:30:595 (1,2) - well, I have a natural hate towards this pattern, and I mean the concept of this pattern.
    It flows in a really forced way and distorts emphasis imo. Anyway, reason aside, why don't you try moving 1 at x30 y231? It looks cleaner too and your original flow is sort of kept, just made a little easier
  5. 00:39:077 (1,1,2) - please enable stacking into editor already, zzz. That 2 is a bit ugly overlapped like that
  6. 00:44:731 (2,3,4,1,2) - I can understand the giant curve these form, but then... 00:46:302 (3,4) - what does this mean or form?
    Maybe apply the same concept you applied for that giant curve too, like this?
  7. 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I can't really hear any instrument enforcing a strong beat every 1/1 tho. If you followed vocal I have to tell you that they aren't strong enough to warrant such technique.
    Unless the drum or the guitar or the whole song kicks in every 1/1, those are NCs are just pointless imo
  8. I'd be prone to point out how the kiai is particularly lacking meaning (as Doyak pointed out already), but I guess you don't need to be told twice (and I don't plan to anyway)

________________



Hard


  1. 00:20:786 (3) - seeing the whole map, I know this is not our style, but using a Ctrl G on this would really help improve flow
  2. 00:30:595 (1) - rhythm is a bit... umh... idk, not so good. What about something like this to add more focus on vocals (since you started this section on vocals)
  3. 00:35:935 (2) - I'd suggest to place just a circle here too, for the same reason ^.
    You tend to use too much of a constant 1/2 rhythm. Put some breaks in that and you'll notice how the map gains more color and depth.
    It's called "contrast" and it is a technique used to direct the player's focus on the main instrument instead of diluting his attention on the constant 1/2 rhythm.
  4. 00:54:155 (4) - same ^
  5. 00:56:197 - maybe delete to add that contrast I mentioned above ^
  6. 01:05:150 (3) - A Ctrl G would fit, but in that case the flow between 01:05:150 (3,4,1) - becomes a bit poor so idk..
    Maybe you can find a solution
  7. 01:16:302 (3) - delete to keep consistency with the other one I suggested to delete already (either keep both or remove both)
  8. 01:18:815 (3) - same ^

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Normal


  1. 00:08:624 (3) - if you use just one circle here you'll create an illusion of following vocals. You hear the long vocal on this, right?
    By using just one circle you actually cover the whole sound instead of adding a misleading beat at 00:09:029 -
  2. 00:12:678 (4) - you can make a choice here: either make the slider a 3/2 slider to catch the vocal at 00:13:286 -
    OR make it a circle to follow vocals in a similar manner of what I suggested above
  3. 00:23:218 (1,2,3) - well, let's say that maybe I'm missing your rhythm here, but if you use just a circle for 00:23:218 (1) - and instead you start a 2/1 repeat slider from 00:24:029 (2) - you create a better rhythm that once again puts emphasis on vocals
  4. 00:40:647 (2,3) - you didn't map this many beats on the Hard, so why are you doing so on the Normal? .-.

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Easy


  1. 00:12:678 (4) - a circle fits better. I explained why a couple of times on the Hard and Normal already
  2. 00:24:029 (2,3) - as for Normal, a 2/1 repeat slider would fit way better
  3. 00:35:621 (3,4,1,2,3) - with all respects, this is boring to play. It's just a continuous 1/1 rhythm.
    Starting from 00:34:365 (1) - , I suggest
  4. 01:11:747 (3) - I'd remove this one to create contrast on vocals at 01:12:061 -

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While I consider this as a good result I still believe that the Insane could be better, in terms of structure.
Sorry, but no bubble.

Dw, I won't come popping it later since there are no things that disturb me that much anyway, I just don't feel like bubbling it.
Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna

MrSergio wrote:

well, I did say I was going to check the whole mapset last time I checked this (1 month ago)
so here we go

no kd



Hard


  1. 00:20:786 (3) - seeing the whole map, I know this is not our style, but using a Ctrl G on this would really help improve flow
  2. 00:30:595 (1) - rhythm is a bit... umh... idk, not so good. What about something like this to add more focus on vocals (since you started this section on vocals)
  3. 00:35:935 (2) - I'd suggest to place just a circle here too, for the same reason ^.
    You tend to use too much of a constant 1/2 rhythm. Put some breaks in that and you'll notice how the map gains more color and depth.
    It's called "contrast" and it is a technique used to direct the player's focus on the main instrument instead of diluting his attention on the constant 1/2 rhythm.
  4. 00:54:155 (4) - same ^
  5. 00:56:197 - maybe delete to add that contrast I mentioned above ^
  6. 01:05:150 (3) - A Ctrl G would fit, but in that case the flow between 01:05:150 (3,4,1) - becomes a bit poor so idk..
    Maybe you can find a solution
  7. 01:16:302 (3) - delete to keep consistency with the other one I suggested to delete already (either keep both or remove both)
  8. 01:18:815 (3) - same ^

fixed almost everything and remaped so fml xd

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Normal


  1. 00:08:624 (3) - if you use just one circle here you'll create an illusion of following vocals. You hear the long vocal on this, right?
    By using just one circle you actually cover the whole sound instead of adding a misleading beat at 00:09:029 - i think the vocals are held up by that slider so its fine
  2. 00:12:678 (4) - you can make a choice here: either make the slider a 3/2 slider to catch the vocal at 00:13:286 -
    OR make it a circle to follow vocals in a similar manner of what I suggested above
  3. 00:23:218 (1,2,3) - well, let's say that maybe I'm missing your rhythm here, but if you use just a circle for 00:23:218 (1) - and instead you start a 2/1 repeat slider from 00:24:029 (2) - you create a better rhythm that once again puts emphasis on vocals this rythm also puts emphasize on vocals pretty much same
  4. 00:40:647 (2,3) - you didn't map this many beats on the Hard, so why are you doing so on the Normal? .-. i dont see problem with that

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Easy


  1. 00:12:678 (4) - a circle fits better. I explained why a couple of times on the Hard and Normal already its held to piano
  2. 00:24:029 (2,3) - as for Normal, a 2/1 repeat slider would fit way better i like this way
  3. 00:35:621 (3,4,1,2,3) - with all respects, this is boring to play. It's just a continuous 1/1 rhythm.
    Starting from 00:34:365 (1) - , I suggest
  4. 01:11:747 (3) - I'd remove this one to create contrast on vocals at 01:12:061 - there is vocals on that note

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While I consider this as a good result I still believe that the Insane could be better, in terms of structure.
Sorry, but no bubble.

Dw, I won't come popping it later since there are no things that disturb me that much anyway, I just don't feel like bubbling it.
no reply = fixed
3 bns no one rebubbles strange as it is im rly bad lol anyways
thank u for ur help i made good changes :)
Starset
652 posts
Joined April 2015
Starset

MrSergio wrote:

well, I did say I was going to check the whole mapset last time I checked this (1 month ago)
so here we go

no kd

HB's Insane


  1. 00:20:786 (2) - just for better rhythm, circle? It doesn't seem like there's any important beat on 00:21:191 - , not that requires a click at least //k
  2. 00:12:678 (6) - in the whole intro (the slow BPM) this is the only strange slider shape, and by strange I mean sort of ugly.
    Isn't there a better option? //no
  3. 00:23:826 (2) - the whole pattern would benefit without this circle. You're following vocals, yet this circle is just a pain for vocals //im not following only vocals, i try to balance but mainly emphasizing vocals
  4. 00:30:595 (1,2) - well, I have a natural hate towards this pattern, and I mean the concept of this pattern.
    It flows in a really forced way and distorts emphasis imo. Anyway, reason aside, why don't you try moving 1 at x30 y231? It looks cleaner too and your original flow is sort of kept, just made a little easier //its nowhere near hard when playing it and 1 got the emphasis that it needs so tbh its just your natural hate
  5. 00:39:077 (1,1,2) - please enable stacking into editor already, zzz. That 2 is a bit ugly overlapped like that //changed place
  6. 00:44:731 (2,3,4,1,2) - I can understand the giant curve these form, but then... 00:46:302 (3,4) - what does this mean or form?
    Maybe apply the same concept you applied for that giant curve too, like this? //idk why i should continue the same shape and idk why what ive done looks bad its typical symmetric copy pasta
  7. 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I can't really hear any instrument enforcing a strong beat every 1/1 tho. If you followed vocal I have to tell you that they aren't strong enough to warrant such technique. //thats my way of emphasizing strong parts of the song which is vocals here, ive been mapping like this since a year and i had never been complained about it before you
    Unless the drum or the guitar or the whole song kicks in every 1/1, those are NCs are just pointless imo
  8. I'd be prone to point out how the kiai is particularly lacking meaning (as Doyak pointed out already), but I guess you don't need to be told twice (and I don't plan to anyway)
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Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
@HB24

is it just me or did you deny my suggestions mostly because you didn't want to change things o.o?
Like your "no" lol

The pattern you have with a circle stacked on the slider tail is a one-time thing too, which seems a bit random to me.
If you were going to use it as a characteristic of your map you should have used it more imo.

idk why i should continue the same shape and idk why what ive done looks bad its typical symmetric copy pasta
you didn't answer my question to begin with tho...
It is true it is copy pasta but the way you place them is disorganized. The whole stream part is similar, so I was expecting a similar concept for all those repeat sliders. The fact you use such different angle and placement for just those two makes it strange because it means you're trying to reflect a difference in the song (a difference that when I try searching, I can'd find)

thats my way of emphasizing strong parts of the song which is vocals here, ive been mapping like this since a year and i had never been complained about it before you
It may be your way to do things or not, but you again didn't justify your choice.
The fact I pointed them out means that they aren't as strong as you're implying. It's also just the vocals if ever, so it's not like every instrument kicks in every 1/1, right?


Again, it feels to me you just arbitrarily chose to not look properly at my points (or even worse, flat out ignore them) for some reason.
I can tell when people has it with me and you're probably like that right now.
I obviously can't blame you, but please use rationality when checking a mod instead of your emotions.

Well... I may as well just imagining things...
pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
pkhg
testplay http://puu.sh/uA02T/ffc0a111bc.osr
[hb]
  1. 00:30:595 (1,2) - i didnt have problems reading that but i agree with sergio. feels forced and the spacing is way lower without any reason
  2. 00:12:678 (6) - maybe u can try using the code below. the first curve looks better imo (so u dont trigger sergio lo)
    95,247,12678,2,0,B|69:286|92:372|92:372|58:370|35:347,1,180.000006866455,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  3. 00:44:731 (2,3,4,1,2) - sergio being too picky
  4. 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - agree with sergio. vocals there are the same as 01:23:370 (1,2,3,4) - theyre all on white ticks
  5. 01:26:825 (6,1) - i dont agree with a that low spacing for such a strong beat, compare this with 01:25:412 (4,5) - youll see what im talking about. what about moving it to x410y254? this way the beat gets at least a bit more emphasis (the circle its perfectly aligned with the previous slider)
map is good imo gl
_handholding
3,109 posts
Joined April 2014
_handholding

pkhg wrote:

map is good imo
Atipir
99 posts
Joined September 2016
Atipir
Sayuri!

*This modding is subjective writing:(
My first mod;-;

HB's insane
00:12:272 (5) - whistle?
00:17:137 (2) - whistle on head. possibily, 3rd slider's head too
00:18:353 (5) - NC and 00:19:975 (1) remove combo
00:22:002 (1) - NC and 00:23:218 (1) remove combo
00:38:606 (3,4,5) - I think this part is not matched on beat. How about slider?
→Like this -> https://s13.postimg.org/efk618lcn/1489190755029.jpg
00:47:873 (3) - this circle is not matched on beat. I think the slider is better than the circle. (add clap)
→Like this -> https://s7.postimg.org/r8ziqgkhn/1489191321314.jpg
Easy
00:17:137 (2) - whistle on head.
00:25:651 (1) - spiner's end is not matched on beat. move spiner end on 00:28:488
00:35:307 (2,3) - Not mathed on beat. How about add slider 00:35:464 this red rine? (add clap)
01:24:626 - How about spiner?
Normal
00:05:380 (3) - Add whisle on head. and how about add finish on slider's end?
00:12:678 (4,5,1) - Why don't you Change pattern? I think that part is not natural. But It is your style! It is advice:)
→Like this -> https://s23.postimg.org/el8351lij/1489192803919.jpg
00:25:651 (1) - spiner's end is not matched on beat. move spiner end on 00:28:488 (copy on easy lol)
01:06:407 (6,7) - That's too hard! How about this? -> https://s22.postimg.org/yv067bwj5/1489193375698.jpg
01:26:511 (5,6) - same 01:06:407 (6,7)
Hard
00:20:786 (3) - Why not slider end this? 00:21:597
00:34:051 (3) - How about this pattern? -> https://s9.postimg.org/otln00vu7/1489193804095.jpg
00:51:642 (4) - same 00:34:051 (3)
01:11:747 (4) - same 00:34:051 (3)

GL :D I making heikousen too..! rank soon~! :)
Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna
well idk what to do exactly no bn is interested most of them keep complaining about insane maybe i just look another gd or map it myself even HB is tilted -__ - !!
ZekeyHache
3,316 posts
Joined October 2009
ZekeyHache
reminder post~ and pls reply to Maris Atipir and pkgh's posts~
Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna
since hb told me to do what i want i guess ill take care of the insane mods at least ;w; im all alone xD

pkhg wrote:

testplay http://puu.sh/uA02T/ffc0a111bc.osr
[hb]
  1. 00:30:595 (1,2) - i didnt have problems reading that but i agree with sergio. feels forced and the spacing is way lower without any reason fixed
  2. 00:12:678 (6) - maybe u can try using the code below. the first curve looks better imo (so u dont trigger sergio lo) changed on my own in same shapes i used in hard 
    95,247,12678,2,0,B|69:286|92:372|92:372|58:370|35:347,1,180.000006866455,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  3. 00:44:731 (2,3,4,1,2) - sergio being too picky
  4. 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - agree with sergio. vocals there are the same as 01:23:370 (1,2,3,4) - theyre all on white ticks fixed this and only did 01:22:742 (3,4) - clickable for the drum like he did same thing here 01:21:485 (3,4) -
  5. 01:26:825 (6,1) - i dont agree with a that low spacing for such a strong beat, compare this with 01:25:412 (4,5) - youll see what im talking about. what about moving it to x410y254? this way the beat gets at least a bit more emphasis (the circle its perfectly aligned with the previous slider) agree on that fixed
map is good imo gl
thank u

Maris Atipir wrote:

Sayuri!

*This modding is subjective writing:(
My first mod;-;

HB's insane
00:12:272 (5) - whistle? fixed
00:17:137 (2) - whistle on head. possibily, 3rd slider's head too fixed
00:18:353 (5) - NC and 00:19:975 (1) remove combo the nc is consistent its after every 2 downbeats
00:22:002 (1) - NC and 00:23:218 (1) remove combo same
00:38:606 (3,4,5) - I think this part is not matched on beat. How about slider?
→Like this -> https://s13.postimg.org/efk618lcn/1489190755029.jpg u can clearly hear a triple there for drum
00:47:873 (3) - this circle is not matched on beat. I think the slider is better than the circle. (add clap) i think its fine the last drums are emphasiezed in different way fixed hitsound
→Like this -> https://s7.postimg.org/r8ziqgkhn/1489191321314.jpg
Easy
00:17:137 (2) - whistle on head. fixed
00:25:651 (1) - spiner's end is not matched on beat. move spiner end on 00:28:488 spinner here is following the vocals so i stoped when she stopped and also i like to make enough recovery time for new players
00:35:307 (2,3) - Not mathed on beat. How about add slider 00:35:464 this red rine? (add clap) i dont want map the red line in easy with 191 bpm thats rly hard for new players and it be confusing to map one only red line the rythm is simplified i think its fine
01:24:626 - How about spiner?if its fine mapped no need spinner xd
Normal
00:05:380 (3) - Add whisle on head. and how about add finish on slider's end? fixed whistle no need finish in such calm music
00:12:678 (4,5,1) - Why don't you Change pattern? I think that part is not natural. But It is your style! It is advice:) its normal diff i dont want complicate the pattern should look clear and simple
→Like this -> https://s23.postimg.org/el8351lij/1489192803919.jpg
00:25:651 (1) - spiner's end is not matched on beat. move spiner end on 00:28:488 (copy on easy lol) same
01:06:407 (6,7) - That's too hard! How about this? dont think itts too hard if someone else mentioned ill change-> https://s22.postimg.org/yv067bwj5/1489193375698.jpg
01:26:511 (5,6) - same 01:06:407 (6,7)
Hard
00:20:786 (3) - Why not slider end this? 00:21:597 because there is no sound there it will be overmapped
00:34:051 (3) - How about this pattern? -> https://s9.postimg.org/otln00vu7/1489193804095.jpg cuz thats how i stacked the 1/1 snap and i did the other stack on 1/2 so i dont confuse players because they not same spacing
00:51:642 (4) - same 00:34:051 (3)
01:11:747 (4) - same 00:34:051 (3) same answer

GL :D I making heikousen too..! rank soon~! :)
thank u alot and good luck with ur map x)
edit: i polished few patterns and jumps in insane
Rizen
1,662 posts
Joined August 2013
Rizen
did soem final touchups c:

log
00:25 Lilyanna: u like?
00:25 Rizen: nicely polished
00:25 Lilyanna: the jumps were little messy
00:25 Lilyanna: and i created these flower jumps xd
00:26 Lilyanna: idk im bad when it comes to insanes but i had to :3
00:26 Rizen: it plays nicely
00:26 Rizen: if ur goin for aesthetics, maybe flower shape at 01:17:401 (2,3,4,5,6) - ?
00:26 Rizen: also there's a bit of inconsistency in the chorus
00:27 Lilyanna: yes i tried to do flower there
00:27 Lilyanna: but then i found i could stack objects also that shape is nice xD
00:27 Lilyanna: where is it pls the inconsistency
00:27 Lilyanna: ;w;
00:27 Lilyanna: ill fix it
00:28 Lilyanna: before bn checks it and hate me
00:28 Rizen: u know how there are these sounds in the chorus
00:28 Rizen: 00:50:543 (6) - 
00:28 Rizen: the drum
00:28 Lilyanna: yes they all on head of a 1/2 slider
00:29 Lilyanna: not all
00:29 Rizen: 01:23:056 (5) - 
00:29 Lilyanna: but consistent one is circle and one is slider
00:29 Lilyanna: ahh
00:30 Lilyanna: he said he wanted to do emphasize on vocal
00:30 Lilyanna: there
00:30 Lilyanna: so the mods
00:30 Lilyanna: like mrsergio and phkg
00:30 Lilyanna: told him to map it with sliders
00:30 Rizen: ah
00:30 Lilyanna: so i fixed that ;w;
00:30 Rizen: 01:00:595 (1,2) - could be circle into slider instead
00:30 Lilyanna: 01:20:857 (1,2,3,4,5) -  like here
00:30 Rizen: cos vocals there is like on evry whhite tick
00:31 Rizen: ah, but that time has the drum with a clickable circle
00:31 Lilyanna: yes true
00:31 Lilyanna: :o
00:31 Lilyanna: i can add cirlce on 01:00:595 -
00:31 Lilyanna: and then 1/2 slider in downbeat?
00:32 Lilyanna: 01:00:909 (2) -  this is not too strong right?
00:32 Rizen: yeah
00:32 Lilyanna: ok >w<
00:32 Rizen: wait
00:32 Lilyanna: yes
00:33 Rizen: yeah
00:33 Rizen: that's fine
00:33 Lilyanna: xD
00:33 Lilyanna: so i change how i said?
00:33 Rizen: yeah
00:33 Rizen: 01:01:380 (4) - could be two circles too
00:33 Lilyanna: okay
00:34 Rizen: because of two drum hits and also for consistencyy with 01:21:485 (3,4) - 
00:34 Lilyanna: meh i like how the 1/2 go well with vocals thats highlights more the drums when there jumps
00:35 Lilyanna: oh
00:35 Lilyanna: i see
00:35 Lilyanna: fdsfdsdg
00:36 Rizen: maybe 01:13:632 (3) - could be two circles too
00:37 Rizen: cos vocal at 01:13:789 - is rather strong
00:37 Rizen: and this part of the half kiai isn't as similar to teh first half kiai
00:39 Lilyanna: okay
00:39 Lilyanna: im going to let it variated
00:40 Lilyanna: one kiai i let the 1/2
00:40 Lilyanna: and other ill let 2 circles
00:40 Rizen: yeah
00:40 Lilyanna: can that make sense?
00:40 Lilyanna: since they both work tbh
00:40 Rizen: the vocals are slightly different between the two
00:40 Rizen: i mean like
00:41 Rizen: 01:13:160 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs 00:53:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 
00:41 Rizen: can hear a clear difference in vocals
00:41 Lilyanna: ye
00:42 Lilyanna: so i make 01:13:632 (3) -  circles?
00:43 Rizen: yr
00:43 Lilyanna: and this 01:03:108 (1,2) - ctrl g?
00:43 Rizen: yeahh
00:44 Lilyanna: ok omg
00:45 Rizen: also about 01:17:401 (2,3,4,5,6) - 
00:45 Rizen: maybe try a jump sequence like [https://puu.sh/uOrag/d01d0692f9.png this] instead
00:45 Rizen: so 01:17:401 (2) - has spacing emphasis
00:48 Rizen: tell me what u think :o
00:49 Lilyanna: i didnt want 2 to have jumps so it feels like the spacing is increasing
00:49 Rizen: but yeah taht's about it
00:49 Lilyanna: but
00:49 Lilyanna: u know more xd
00:49 Rizen: o
00:49 Rizen: if u don't agree, don't change it x.x
00:50 Rizen: if don't apply, mayb stack 01:17:401 (2) - with 01:15:988 (2) - 
00:51 Lilyanna: i dont want stackss
00:51 Rizen: i mean like
00:51 Rizen: just for neatness
00:51 Rizen: not really a stack
00:51 Rizen: like what u did at 01:16:459 (4,4) - 
00:51 Lilyanna: like look this jump 01:13:946 (5,6) -
00:51 Lilyanna: ahh
00:52 Lilyanna: fixed
00:52 Lilyanna: xd
00:52 Rizen: okie
ZekeyHache
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Joined October 2009
ZekeyHache
ok let's see NO KUDOS let's see if they finally drop me from the bng with less activity xp

[General]
  1. First BPM line is actually 74 BPM~
[HB's Insane]
  1. 01:26:825 (6) - touches the score on 4:3 resolutions
I can't pass the last diff, which is demotivating for me to check this in more depth since I'm not allowed to nominate diffs I can't pass xp (and I usually check sets when I'm interested in nomination)

well, good luck! ;w;
Lilyanna
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Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna
well this is were i give up i guess gj u did it, i really tried everything all i get is weird excuses u guys demotivated me to even map in general i guess i quit untill i can try again when things really changes, but now its not fun anymore its not even worth to try this harder in such community , idk what i am mapping for anymore.

btw @ezek please some mappers rank something and they themselves can't even play or pass!
ZekeyHache
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Joined October 2009
ZekeyHache
You don't have to give up just for that~ In some of my maps I had to wait extra months or even years to find someone who wants to nominate~ Just don't let the map on the graveyard and you'll find someone eventually~
And I know some mappers get their sets ranked when they can't even pass them, but because of the BNG rules, I am not allowed to nominate a set if I can't pass all the diffs because according to the rules, I cannot judge something I can't pass. So it's not up to me, don't take it personal~
Lilyanna
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Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna
okay i didnt know that and ye ill try not to give up >w< , thank you for ur time ezek!
Lilyanna
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Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna

ezek wrote:

ok let's see NO KUDOS let's see if they finally drop me from the bng with less activity xp

[General]
  1. First BPM line is actually 74 BPM~ checked more bpm with few people including Bonsai and its 74 so fixed


[HB's Insane]
  1. 01:26:825 (6) - touches the score on 4:3 resolutions fixed


I can't pass the last diff, which is demotivating for me to check this in more depth since I'm not allowed to nominate diffs I can't pass xp (and I usually check sets when I'm interested in nomination)

well, good luck! ;w;
ty ;w; updated
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind
recheck, no kd

General
Clear.

Easy
the map generally feels fine but I'm quite fed up with the hitsounding in the kiai tbh. I can see that you have made the hitsounds consistent in a way, but it's not matching with the music and it really doesn't sound that nice.
since the rhythm is sticked to 1/1 in this Easy, all you need to do is to use soft whistle on the 1st and 3rd white tick of every stanza like 00:49:443 - and 00:50:071 -
, while using soft clap for the 2nd and 4th white tick of every stanza instead, like 00:49:757 - and 00:50:386 - . in this way, your hitsounds can match with the music more accurately.
take some examples of what you need to fix:
00:49:443 (1) - soft whistle instead of clap at its end
00:50:700 (2) - ^
00:50:386 (2,1) - ^
00:54:469 (1) - soft whistle at the reversing point instead
00:56:354 (2) - soft whistle instead of clap
00:56:668 (1) - soft clap instead of whistle for both its head and end
00:57:611 (2) - soft whistle instead of clap
and on...

so you actually need to change quite some stuff if you agree on the reasoning, just be sure to make the whole kiai consistent if you decide to change

HB's Insane
00:38:448 (2) - missing clap
01:03:265 (1,2) - I think they're too close to each other can you move 2 to somewhere else to make the spacing more fitting? maybe something like this
01:17:401 (2,3,4,5,6) - try to switch order like this to make the flow to 01:18:187 (1) - smoother?
01:22:428 (2) - should use soft clap on head for consistency
01:23:056 (5) - and probably remove the whistle on head for consistency

Normal and Hard are fine to me so this should be all

call me back
Lilyanna
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Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna

Zero__wind wrote:

recheck, no kd

General
Clear.

Easy
the map generally feels fine but I'm quite fed up with the hitsounding in the kiai tbh. I can see that you have made the hitsounds consistent in a way, but it's not matching with the music and it really doesn't sound that nice.
since the rhythm is sticked to 1/1 in this Easy, all you need to do is to use soft whistle on the 1st and 3rd white tick of every stanza like 00:49:443 - and 00:50:071 -
, while using soft clap for the 2nd and 4th white tick of every stanza instead, like 00:49:757 - and 00:50:386 - . in this way, your hitsounds can match with the music more accurately.
take some examples of what you need to fix:
00:49:443 (1) - soft whistle instead of clap at its end
00:50:700 (2) - ^
00:50:386 (2,1) - ^
00:54:469 (1) - soft whistle at the reversing point instead
00:56:354 (2) - soft whistle instead of clap
00:56:668 (1) - soft clap instead of whistle for both its head and end
00:57:611 (2) - soft whistle instead of clap
and on...

so you actually need to change quite some stuff if you agree on the reasoning, just be sure to make the whole kiai consistent if you decide to change
changed

HB's Insane
00:38:448 (2) - missing clap fixed
01:03:265 (1,2) - I think they're too close to each other can you move 2 to somewhere else to make the spacing more fitting? maybe something like this well i changed it but not like u said cuz will create big jump after also there is another object under it so i moved it up u will see
01:17:401 (2,3,4,5,6) - try to switch order like this to make the flow to 01:18:187 (1) - smoother? aww fixed xd
01:22:428 (2) - should use soft clap on head for consistency oups is cuz i copy pasted the slider i forgot to fix hitsound fixed
01:23:056 (5) - and probably remove the whistle on head for consistency yep fixed

Normal and Hard are fine to me so this should be all

call me back
thank u >w<
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