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Korey

Joined August 2013

Korey 2017-02-07T08:25:43+00:00

HB24 wrote:
ikorza wrote:
00:33:108 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - emphasis the white ticks here, they jump pattern also looks pretty messy //its not messy at all its actually cleaner then anything

maybe it looks clean to you but i dont see how there is any debate that equally spaced 1/2 notes does not represents strong white ticks and you didnt say anything regarding that.

HB24 wrote:
ikorza wrote:
00:53:056 - 00:55:569 (6) - these red ticks before every second measure have strong guitar which should be emphasised. //before i say anything, do u know the meaning of emphasizing?

this came across as rude to me could you please explain what you meant exactly.

i agree some of my suggestions may have been forcing some of my own mapping ideals onto your own map and i didnt proofread my mod at all, my bad ill try and avoid that in the future.

Haruto

1,815 posts

Joined December 2013

Haruto 2017-02-07T11:12:01+00:00

Random mod passing by!
You are fast, link my set to your beatmap's desc pLS xd.

General

Things are fine in general but, seems like you took the mp3 from a raw youtube export (i guess..) I'll give you my permission to use my mp3, i have it from an original site or smwhere original where the source isn't from youtube, if you wish to refuse then. Its p much up to you ^^.
Okay, one more. 00:00:516 - Why dont you use a default whistle hit sound here? Its pretty cool and fit more with the piano/guitar sound on the intro. Reason i put this on the general section is cuz this applies for every difficulties on the set.
Maybe add "Parellel Line" to the tags since that is the meaning/translation of the title+song.

Easy

00:05:380 (3) - I think its far more better if this were changed to a long 1/1 slider that ends here 00:06:191 - instead a 1/1 slider but with reverse. I know both works just fine but the one without reverse are much more focused to the guitar held song 00:05:380 - here + the vocal. But its up to you i guess if you want to change it or not.
00:08:624 (3,1) - This is pretty inconsistent in my opinion. 00:08:624 - On this part, you mapped the downbeat with a slider. 00:10:245 - But on this part, you made it across with a 1/1 slider instead mapping it. Wouldn't it be better if you do something consistent with the rhythm here? Also, if you follows the vocal, you must map this part 00:11:664 - for the same consistency of your current rhythm choice.
00:39:391 (1) - A finish hit sound here maybe? (applies for some diffs on the set).
00:51:956 (1) - For the sake of aesthetic/neatness. Move this object somewhere on 229|154 so the sliderhead of this object won't touch with the slidertail of 00:50:700 (2) - this object.
00:53:213 (3) - Same for neatness. Why dont you copy this slider from 00:51:956 (1) - ? And try making the placement of the current part looks like this.
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01:11:747 (3,1,2,3) - The thing above also applies on this time.

Neat Diff Actually.

Normal

00:35:464 (4,1) - Your Current rhythm choice of this part doesnt fit much imo. I think you could try this, 00:35:464 (4) - remove then move 00:35:621 (1) - to 00:35:464 - then add a circle here 00:35:935 - . tl;dr : CTRL+G the rhythm 00:35:464 (4,1) - .
01:15:831 (1) - Just a slight fix maybe, the wave node could be placed a bit in the middle lol.

Great diff!

No, i dont mod Hard diffs. xd

HB's Insane
NOTE : Before you reply anything with "do you even know emphasize" or smth similliar, please re-think my mod post before you reply it with the same words you use when replying to ikorza. Tbh its not a good mapper attitude and a good mapper should explain their reason detailed and they'll tell why they dont apply the modder's point.

00:08:624 (3,4) - Could this one have an equal blanket like what you do with 00:07:002 (1,2) - Its not consistent at all with the current blanket but, thats not a big deal i guess.
00:24:840 (1,1) - No, this doesnt flow good imo. 00:24:029 (7) - This one's sliderend pointed out to where 00:24:840 (1) - 's sliderhead place. And this 00:25:651 (1) - ? Doesn't match at all with the previous flow. its better if you 00:25:651 (1) - ctrl+g this instead so sliderball will start from above then slides to downwards which is more fit and more flowy than your current pattern.
00:39:077 (1,1) - ehh, stacking a strong beat is really wrong imo. Its like, you are ignoring the emphasize of it. Maybe space them a bit more even so people will recognize the emphasize?
00:51:485 (4) - I think if you place this to somewhere around 124|224, the jump will plays a bit more flowy and much convinient to play.
00:55:569 (6,1) - Current Emphasizing here is wrong imo. Its because the sound on this time 00:55:569 - is much stronger than 00:55:726 - Although, 00:55:726 - this is a downbeat, you can do something instead of emphasizing. Maybe a flowbreak here is much better imo. But yeah, 00:55:569 (6) - This should be spaced more than 00:55:726 (1) - .
01:26:825 (6,1) - Its fine if you put a flowbreak here as the replacement or emphasize. But why dont you emphasize this instead? i mean, its far more better than doing a flowbreak here because the beat of 01:27:140 - is pretty strong and really recommended to emphasize it instead.

Not much i can say, diff is pretty neat although there are some flow problems on it, i guess its not a big issue at all but yeah, its much better if you fix them .

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Apparently, my set is getting bigger and bigger so it'll take a longer time to rank it, im also not preventing you to rank your set cuz its a pretty good and small tv size set.

Good luck~!

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-02-07T13:14:21+00:00

ikorza wrote:
00:33:108 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - emphasis the white ticks here, they jump pattern also looks pretty messy //its not messy at all its actually cleaner then anything

maybe it looks clean to you but i dont see how there is any debate that equally spaced 1/2 notes does not represents strong white ticks and you didnt say anything regarding that.

Regarding this one, the only notes that demand emphasis are 00:33:422 (3) - 00:33:893 (6) - and they are properly given their emphasis that they merit

00:53:056 - 00:55:569 (6) - these red ticks before every second measure have strong guitar which should be emphasised. //before i say anything, do u know the meaning of emphasizing?

this came across as rude to me could you please explain what you meant exactly.

i agree some of my suggestions may have been forcing some of my own mapping ideals onto your own map and i didnt proofread my mod at all, my bad ill try and avoid that in the future.

Emphasis is giving a strong note more spacing then usual and ofc its gotta be clickable and thats what ive done to those, all have greater spacing then others thats why i was asking u if u knew what emphasis is and sry if it sounded rude to you

Haruto wrote:
HB's Insane
NOTE : Before you reply anything with "do you even know emphasize" or smth similliar, please re-think my mod post before you reply it with the same words you use when replying to ikorza. Tbh its not a good mapper attitude and a good mapper should explain their reason detailed and they'll tell why they dont apply the modder's point.
00:08:624 (3,4) - Could this one have an equal blanket like what you do with 00:07:002 (1,2) - Its not consistent at all with the current blanket but, thats not a big deal i guess. //i dont understand how a blanket should be consistent but ill just pass this one i guess
00:24:840 (1,1) - No, this doesnt flow good imo. 00:24:029 (7) - This one's sliderend pointed out to where 00:24:840 (1) - 's sliderhead place. And this 00:25:651 (1) - ? Doesn't match at all with the previous flow. its better if you 00:25:651 (1) - ctrl+g this instead so sliderball will start from above then slides to downwards which is more fit and more flowy than your current pattern. //00:24:029 (7) - this going clockwise, then this 00:24:840 (1) - going anticlockwise and then 00:25:651 (1) - clockwise again, doing ctrl+g will make no sense and talking about flow on low sv sliders is not needed sry, its not like jumps this will not affect the gameplay
00:39:077 (1,1) - ehh, stacking a strong beat is really wrong imo. Its like, you are ignoring the emphasize of it. Maybe space them a bit more even so people will recognize the emphasize? //its not a beat its a finish and as its name explains it i kinda wanted to make the player feel that map changed from fast to very slow and that it doesnt require any strong movements at all
00:51:485 (4) - I think if you place this to somewhere around 124|224, the jump will plays a bit more flowy and much convinient to play. //id rather keep it stacked looks cleaner
00:55:569 (6,1) - Current Emphasizing here is wrong imo. Its because the sound on this time 00:55:569 - is much stronger than 00:55:726 - Although, 00:55:726 - this is a downbeat, you can do something instead of emphasizing. Maybe a flowbreak here is much better imo. But yeah, 00:55:569 (6) - This should be spaced more than 00:55:726 (1) - . //okey for this one
01:26:825 (6,1) - Its fine if you put a flowbreak here as the replacement or emphasize. But why dont you emphasize this instead? i mean, its far more better than doing a flowbreak here because the beat of 01:27:140 - is pretty strong and really recommended to emphasize it instead. //im still confused about what u talking about 6 is obviously enough emphasized for me so its fine

Not much i can say, diff is pretty neat although there are some flow problems on it, i guess its not a big issue at all but yeah, its much better if you fix them .

Good luck~!

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_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-02-07T14:23:34+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
Deivedux wrote:
01:18:972 - Never thought of making this into a stream? Or more interesting, a tripple slider and a tripple stream. Can you handle that? well for a hard difficulty and 191 bpm i think it fits fine like that dont want make it more hard

It is a bit monotonous which isn't exactly terrible but adding something could spice it up and be more fun for the player. something like this for example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7260155

There are a couple of things I want to say about the Easy so I might do that later

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-07T15:10:25+00:00

Haruto wrote:
Random mod passing by! o/
You are fast, link my set to your beatmap's desc pLS xd. i am not fast owo i just had free time past days xd and ur map holy! it more noticed than mine :c xD

General
Things are fine in general but, seems like you took the mp3 from a raw youtube export (i guess..) I'll give you my permission to use my mp3, i have it from an original site or smwhere original where the source isn't from youtube, if you wish to refuse then. Its p much up to you ^^. its not exported i downloaded a good mp3 with doubled chorus and then made the tv size version with help of a good friend and since the audio and everything seem fine i guess no need but thank u
Okay, one more. 00:00:516 - Why dont you use a default whistle hit sound here? Its pretty cool and fit more with the piano/guitar sound on the intro. Reason i put this on the general section is cuz this applies for every difficulties on the set. yes agree done changed to default
Maybe add "Parellel Line" to the tags since that is the meaning/translation of the title+song. okay

Easy
00:05:380 (3) - I think its far more better if this were changed to a long 1/1 slider that ends here 00:06:191 - instead a 1/1 slider but with reverse. I know both works just fine but the one without reverse are much more focused to the guitar held song 00:05:380 - here + the vocal. But its up to you i guess if you want to change it or not. ye both work but at some strong guitar sounds i want to emphasize them so its okay i keep it x)
00:08:624 (3,1) - This is pretty inconsistent in my opinion. 00:08:624 - On this part, you mapped the downbeat with a slider. 00:10:245 - But on this part, you made it across with a 1/1 slider instead mapping it. Wouldn't it be better if you do something consistent with the rhythm here? Also, if you follows the vocal, you must map this part 00:11:664 - for the same consistency of your current rhythm choice. well its not always about consistency here if the downbeat has no beat on it or vocal doesnt mean i have to map it to be consistence so to make sense the way i did it is fait enough with vocal/music x)
00:39:391 (1) - A finish hit sound here maybe? (applies for some diffs on the set). oh yes thx fixed
00:51:956 (1) - For the sake of aesthetic/neatness. Move this object somewhere on 229|154 so the sliderhead of this object won't touch with the slidertail of 00:50:700 (2) - this object. fixed
00:53:213 (3) - Same for neatness. Why dont you copy this slider from 00:51:956 (1) - ? And try making the placement of the current part looks like this. fixed
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01:11:747 (3,1,2,3) - The thing above also applies on this time.

Neat Diff Actually.

Normal
00:35:464 (4,1) - Your Current rhythm choice of this part doesnt fit much imo. I think you could try this, 00:35:464 (4) - remove then move 00:35:621 (1) - to 00:35:464 - then add a circle here 00:35:935 - . tl;dr : CTRL+G the rhythm 00:35:464 (4,1) - . eh this rythm could work yes but then i have to change all i guess to be consistent so as long as no one complained if anyone say smth about ill have to change :3 ty
01:15:831 (1) - Just a slight fix maybe, the wave node could be placed a bit in the middle lol. fixed

Great diff!

No, i dont mod Hard diffs. xd

[]
Apparently, my set is getting bigger and bigger so it'll take a longer time to rank it, im also not preventing you to rank your set cuz its a pretty good and small tv size set. thank you for passing by and for ur help and your set is cool you also have famous mappers there so you have more advantage than me also this is no race i just really love the song x) and doesnt matter when i push it forward as long as i do, good luck with ur map ♥ no one notices me notice me pls xdd

Good luck~!

@Kisses thx i fixed it

okay, Updated changes and HB difficulty also remaked stuff on the storyboard desgine. PLS REDOWNLOAD XO

MasterHerobrine

242 posts

Joined July 2016

MasterHerobrine 2017-02-07T16:07:41+00:00

From MH's STD Modding & Guest Difficulties Queue!

[General]
All seems good!

[Easy]
00:29:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I prefer to make like this.
00:34:365 (1) - place a 1/1 slider and at the end of this slider place a circle.

[Normal]
00:07:813 (2,1) - Better to place it like this?
00:22:407 (2) - Needed here place 1/2 skider, not 1/1. Vocals ending on red tick and white tick have no sounds.
01:12:689 (2,3,1) - Do like this?

[Hard]
All seems good!

[HB's Insane]
All seems good!

Very good map and song! Hope this will ranked soon!

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-07T16:30:45+00:00

MasterHerobrine wrote:
From MH's STD Modding & Guest Difficulties Queue!

[General]
All seems good!

[Easy]
00:29:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I prefer to make like this. eh, its easy difficulty and i dont want use red ticks ore 1/2 repeat and simplifying it like that is okay x)
00:34:365 (1) - place a 1/1 slider and at the end of this slider place a circle. the current rythm work fine too if it was normal i would use that to emphasize drums like i did but easy and new players dont have sense of rythm so simple as it is should be fine

[Normal]
00:07:813 (2,1) - Better to place it like this? i dont see problem of them taking different direction since the vocal is expressed different in three flows i didnt get what u mean exactly but i hope i explained well
00:22:407 (2) - Needed here place 1/2 skider, not 1/1. Vocals ending on red tick and white tick have no sounds. the vocal is extended here 00:22:813 - so it should be fine also 1/2 slider will ruin the slow movement of the patterns at that calm part because its short and doesnt feel complete
01:12:689 (2,3,1) - Do like this? okay fixed those sliders curves where big and i been thinking of fixing them thank u

[Hard]
All seems good!

[HB's Insane]
All seems good!

Very good map and song! Hope this will ranked soon!

thanks alot x)

DeRandom Otaku

2,136 posts

Joined November 2014

DeRandom Otaku 2017-02-07T17:49:30+00:00

[Easy]

00:25:651 (1) - Even tho this section is 148 bpm , the recovery time being lower than 4 beats should still be avoided , so go for a long slider art instead of the slider
00:57:925 (3) - nope , 3/1 slider just doesnt go well here at all . The vocals are getting even more intense here , the song is catching more intensity and having this ,very easy to play, rhythm doesnt emphasize the vocals and intensity of melody and drums at all so try a bit complexer rhythm. same for 01:18:030 (3) -

[Normal]

I recommend you to change your NC consistency here to 2 measures . Since you current NC patterning has an nc after 2 notes in most cases , rarely more than 2 , but still having nc spam each 2 notes is not normal for a normal difficulty. like there are a lot of combos that have literally single note in them for instance : 00:05:380 (1) - 00:24:840 (1) - etc
00:31:066 (2,3) - Rhythm choice is kinda bad here . Ctrl+g rhythm would work like a charm. It will basically make the circle appear before slider and thats because you should make 00:31:380 - clickable because the slider 00:31:066 (2) - has lower sound at head than the tail so you're losing emphasis here. so yea ctrl+g 'rhythm' works better
00:31:066 (2,1) - Stack fail
01:23:370 (1,2) - Move it to left . You dont want newbies to read slider-arrow as slider start, do you?

[Hard]

00:11:664 (3,1) - Dont stack these. Obvious reason, the sound at 00:11:867 - is much stronger so stacking doesnt emphasize it in term of spacing. so yea leave it DS'd
00:14:299 (2) - Nice trigger. Its curved toooooo much .it feels cringed tbh
00:24:029 (1,2) - You are just reducing SV by 0.2x which is not that drastic.NC for 00:24:029 (1) - is not necessary as well because the players will be able to predict about the sv getting lowered. Dont underestimate the reading skills of players
00:30:438 (5,1) - Same thing about stack as 00:11:664 (3,1) - because the kick and vocal both are stronger on downbeat
00:59:181 (4,1) - Could space (1) more to emphasize the start of stanza properly just like you did at 01:09:234 (4,1) -
01:18:815 (2) - Wait is this a mistake? 01:18:815 (2) - is supposed to be stacked with 01:18:029 (4) - Lol that way the spacing would be consistent as well . because having a jump for 01:18:815 (2) - makes no sense as theres no need to have a jump for it
01:19:286 (4,1) - Same , space more for emphasis
01:22:113 (1,2) - DS. Could be intentional but u didnt break DS at 01:02:009 (1,2) - so breaking it at 01:22:742 - doesnt make much sense
01:26:354 (3,4) - Keep these two spaced by 1.2x because 1.5x is unnecessary for them however this 01:27:140 (1) - having 1.5 spacing is pretty nice so keep this one

[HB]

00:12:678 (6) - Why not end it on 00:13:083 - so you could make the vocal at red tick clickable
01:03:108 (1) - Are you sure about having slider here? i mean the vocals are going pretty intense here so having two circles would be cooler. Also the vocal on downbeat is more intenser than the one at slider start so yea
01:16:459 (4,1) - Stack

gl

zev

462 posts

Joined September 2015

zev 2017-02-08T10:18:11+00:00

lilyanna hard

01:22:113 (1,2,3) - felt a bit underwhelming

01:24:626 (1) - reverse sliders shouldn't really point in such a counterintuitive direction at hard difficulties.

thats it

hb

00:33:108 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't know what shape/ pattern you are trying to make but this arrangement looks cluttered

00:37:035 (2) - not talking about this pattern but the whole map as a whole try making the map more quality by arranging stuff centering between objects if possible so

SPOILER

00:38:448 (2) - too sharp

00:48:030 (4) - with the amount of speed you got from these 1/4 i would place it further (also some visual difference is nice)

00:54:469 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this coud be rearranged better

00:57:611 (4,5,6) - compared to the rest of the map this is a distinct warning, very sharp and counterintuitive and doesn't really emphasize anything, really.

01:03:893 (4) - theres a drum there, overdone

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-08T14:17:46+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
[Easy]
00:25:651 (1) - Even tho this section is 148 bpm , the recovery time being lower than 4 beats should still be avoided , so go for a long slider art instead of the slider eh, i think it should be fine recovery if more complain ill fix
00:57:925 (3) - nope , 3/1 slider just doesnt go well here at all . The vocals are getting even more intense here , the song is catching more intensity and having this ,very easy to play, rhythm doesnt emphasize the vocals and intensity of melody and drums at all so try a bit complexer rhythm. same for 01:18:030 (3) - like i said before new players doesnt have sense of rythm and i simplifying it as much also the long slider is fine it holds on to the music and vocals
[Normal]
I recommend you to change your NC consistency here to 2 measures . Since you current NC patterning has an nc after 2 notes in most cases , rarely more than 2 , but still having nc spam each 2 notes is not normal for a normal difficulty. like there are a lot of combos that have literally single note in them for instance : 00:05:380 (1) - 00:24:840 (1) - etc yes true but starting from the second offset the combo will get much longer for normal difficulty is it ok if i use nc on like u said only in the intro?
00:31:066 (2,3) - Rhythm choice is kinda bad here . Ctrl+g rhythm would work like a charm. It will basically make the circle appear before slider and thats because you should make 00:31:380 - clickable because the slider 00:31:066 (2) - has lower sound at head than the tail so you're losing emphasis here. so yea ctrl+g 'rhythm' works better fixed
00:31:066 (2,1) - Stack fail i dont see
01:23:370 (1,2) - Move it to left . You dont want newbies to read slider-arrow as slider start, do you? fixed
[Hard]
00:11:664 (3,1) - Dont stack these. Obvious reason, the sound at 00:11:867 - is much stronger so stacking doesnt emphasize it in term of spacing. so yea leave it DS'd fixed
00:14:299 (2) - Nice trigger. Its curved toooooo much .it feels cringed tbh but i love it :c
00:24:029 (1,2) - You are just reducing SV by 0.2x which is not that drastic.NC for 00:24:029 (1) - is not necessary as well because the players will be able to predict about the sv getting lowered. Dont underestimate the reading skills of players fixed
00:30:438 (5,1) - Same thing about stack as 00:11:664 (3,1) - because the kick and vocal both are stronger on downbeat im going keep it here it playes fine the downbeat is not that strong beat the clap/ which is drum sound is much more strong
00:59:181 (4,1) - Could space (1) more to emphasize the start of stanza properly just like you did at 01:09:234 (4,1) - fixed
01:18:815 (2) - Wait is this a mistake? 01:18:815 (2) - is supposed to be stacked with 01:18:029 (4) - Lol that way the spacing would be consistent as well . because having a jump for 01:18:815 (2) - makes no sense as theres no need to have a jump for it okay true fixed
01:19:286 (4,1) - Same , space more for emphasis fixed
01:22:113 (1,2) - DS. Could be intentional but u didnt break DS at 01:02:009 (1,2) - so breaking it at 01:22:742 - doesnt make much sense that was mistake fixed
01:26:354 (3,4) - Keep these two spaced by 1.2x because 1.5x is unnecessary for them however this 01:27:140 (1) - having 1.5 spacing is pretty nice so keep this one k fixed
gl

thank u alot ♥

zev wrote:
lilyanna hard

01:22:113 (1,2,3) - felt a bit underwhelming its first time i make such pattern tbh but i like it :c

01:24:626 (1) - reverse sliders shouldn't really point in such a counterintuitive direction at hard difficulties. eh, its rankable at least i think xD i like them too

thats it

thank you for mod!

Xinying

559 posts

Joined July 2013

Xinying 2017-02-08T16:40:59+00:00

from my modding queue~ (don't kds I have nothing much to say)

General

01:08:920 - if you end mid-kiai here, it fits with the storyboard.

Normal

Because of your choice of rhythm, I would suggest to NC every 2 downbeats like Easy. Everything seems to be 1-2-3/1-2

Hard

You sure you are starting the song with 1x slider velocity? Even insane started with x0.75.

it's already a solid mapset in my opinion, so have a star and good luck!

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-08T17:57:20+00:00

Xinying wrote:
from my modding queue~ (don't kds I have nothing much to say)

General
01:08:920 - if you end mid-kiai here, it fits with the storyboard. okay fixed

Normal
Because of your choice of rhythm, I would suggest to NC every 2 downbeats like Easy. Everything seems to be 1-2-3/1-2 but in kiai for example if i do that ill even end up with combo with 7 and it wont be 1/2/3 it will be 1/2/3/4/5 each combo if u only looked at the intro because i used less objects there ;w; ill ask more about this ! Okay fixed xddd

Hard
You sure you are starting the song with 1x slider velocity? Even insane started with x0.75. dont think is a problem its okay to be different its accaptable and fine o w o

it's already a solid mapset in my opinion, so have a star and good luck!

thank u alot !!! u sure u dont want kds? xd

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-02-09T20:32:12+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
[HB]
00:12:678 (6) - Why not end it on 00:13:083 - so you could make the vocal at red tick clickable //idk, someone else would say it is intense lul
01:03:108 (1) - Are you sure about having slider here? i mean the vocals are going pretty intense here so having two circles would be cooler. Also the vocal on downbeat is more intenser than the one at slider start so yea //no i want to keep my pattern since i like it
01:16:459 (4,1) - Stack //lul
gl

zev wrote:
hb

00:33:108 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't know what shape/ pattern you are trying to make but this arrangement looks cluttered //looks fine

00:37:035 (2) - not talking about this pattern but the whole map as a whole try making the map more quality by arranging stuff centering between objects if possible so //no lol its fine as it is
SPOILER

00:38:448 (2) - too sharp //not a problem

00:48:030 (4) - with the amount of speed you got from these 1/4 i would place it further (also some visual difference is nice) //ok

00:54:469 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this coud be rearranged better //tryed

00:57:611 (4,5,6) - compared to the rest of the map this is a distinct warning, very sharp and counterintuitive and doesn't really emphasize anything, really. //fixed

01:03:893 (4) - theres a drum there, overdone //following vocals there ye

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-09T20:54:41+00:00

Updatu. :3

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-02-09T23:09:49+00:00

[Normal]

00:15:110 (3,4,1) - I don't really like the position of those 3 notes. Why not trying to move it elsewhere because I will not say that's anti-flow, but the cursor movement will not be fluid if you keep it like this. The movement is a chain left → right → left → right with sharp turns, to me it can be polished to make it better, since a pattern that swap sides could be challenging, but the angles you chose are not really nice in my opinion.
00:29:967 (2,3,4) - Be careful of it, because as you can see, this note: 00:31:066 (4) - is in front of this slider: 00:29:967 (2) - and the rhythm following can be disturbed because of this... I mean, since those notes: 00:29:967 (2,4) - are more close from each other than those two: 00:29:967 (2,3) - I would suggest you to move a bit higher this note: 00:31:066 (4) - to make the player understand the flow. Here is a screenshot to explain myself easier: https://puu.sh/tVXRS/ce7650ccca.png
00:55:726 (4,5,1) - The flow on this pattern can be arranged I guess, because the flow between those notes: 00:55:726 (4,5) - don't lead well to the next slider: 00:56:982 (1) - so if it was me, I would change this slider to make it better: 00:56:354 (5) -
Here is the screenshot: https://puu.sh/tVY7e/9855c3c3f2.png - don't you think that the pattern is easier to read/play?
01:18:344 (4,1) - Those patterns looks very close to them, even if they are kind of spaced by timing... Why not moving the reverse slider a bit on the left, to create an high spacing between them here: 01:18:344 (4,1) - ?
Here is the screenshot: https://puu.sh/tVYo5/d4c5c74631.png
In my opinion, this diff is very nice, even if there is few things that I don't really like, I see the point you want to do on your map, and if it's your choice, then keep it like that

[Easy]

00:36:878 (1,2,3) - I don't know why, but this beat feels quite strange... It's like there is a missing clickable beat, why not splitting the reverse into two slider, so it fit better and have a very nice emphasis with the next pattern (3 circles) - https://puu.sh/tVYRL/0cf1db3277.png
01:05:778 (2,3,1) - Once again here, since the end of the slider 01:05:778 (2) - is ending really near of the 01:07:035 (1) - begining, the player will maybe fail here, since it's Easy, and normally the Easy diffs is made for beginner so why not moving one of those note to clarify the pattern?

That's all for me !
Good luck for rank

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-02-10T14:58:17+00:00

bg size of 1662x1199 is really weird tbh, i think you could resize it to regular ones like 1600x1200

[Easy]

use od2 hp2
The ds between objects is so small that sometimes object almost overlapped.. i suggest cs3.5 tbh, but that will make N icon so yeah,up to you. Visually speaking cs3.5 is 100% better than cs3

[Normal]

00:15:110 (3,4) - blanket
00:16:326 (4,1,2) - can have equal sides to keep aesthetics.
00:36:721 - add a circle here, there's vocal that i think shouldn't be ignored.
00:38:763 (5) - down a bit for better flow.
01:04:993 - add a circle?
I suggest cs3.5 as well...as you can see 00:30:595 (3,4) - 00:34:679 (2,3,4) - etc they have such small overlaps, it's kinda uncomfortable. Next time you can try better ds that suits the map.

[Hard]

00:24:029 (2,3) - i see no reason of reducing sv here.
00:46:616 (4,5,6) - use a reverse slider as before..inconsistency here is weird cuz you know it's actually 1/4 spam here but you simplified it to some reverse sliders
01:24:626 (1) - weird slider shape..
00:04:570 (2) - whistle on slider head
00:09:840 (1) - 00:11:056 (2) - 00:22:407 (4) - 00:24:029 (2,3) - same on slider head
00:09:434 (2) - can add whistle if you want
00:56:982 (1,2,3) - aesthetics is really off
Remember to copy hitsound to every diff if hitsounds of lower diffs were copied.
btw the hitsounding also applies to Insane so make sure you apply them in insane as well.

[Insane]

00:23:218 (5) - NC?
00:24:840 (1,1) - rip blanket
nice diff, make sure you check my hitsounding suggestion for hard diff.

reply to mods above as well, call me back when done.

Firetruck

1,011 posts

Joined July 2015

Firetruck 2017-02-10T15:50:55+00:00

holy

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-10T16:22:51+00:00

Pachiru wrote:
[Normal]
00:15:110 (3,4,1) - I don't really like the position of those 3 notes. Why not trying to move it elsewhere because I will not say that's anti-flow, but the cursor movement will not be fluid if you keep it like this. The movement is a chain left → right → left → right with sharp turns, to me it can be polished to make it better, since a pattern that swap sides could be challenging, but the angles you chose are not really nice in my opinion. kinda agree i always felt less quality but wasnt sure lol fixed i created triangle movement
00:29:967 (2,3,4) - Be careful of it, because as you can see, this note: 00:31:066 (4) - is in front of this slider: 00:29:967 (2) - and the rhythm following can be disturbed because of this... I mean, since those notes: 00:29:967 (2,4) - are more close from each other than those two: 00:29:967 (2,3) - I would suggest you to move a bit higher this note: 00:31:066 (4) - to make the player understand the flow. Here is a screenshot to explain myself easier: https://puu.sh/tVXRS/ce7650ccca.png ok make sense fixed
00:55:726 (4,5,1) - The flow on this pattern can be arranged I guess, because the flow between those notes: 00:55:726 (4,5) - don't lead well to the next slider: 00:56:982 (1) - so if it was me, I would change this slider to make it better: 00:56:354 (5) -
Here is the screenshot: https://puu.sh/tVY7e/9855c3c3f2.png - don't you think that the pattern is easier to read/play? tbh both can work but okay fixed
01:18:344 (4,1) - Those patterns looks very close to them, even if they are kind of spaced by timing... Why not moving the reverse slider a bit on the left, to create an high spacing between them here: 01:18:344 (4,1) - ?
Here is the screenshot: https://puu.sh/tVYo5/d4c5c74631.png fixed
In my opinion, this diff is very nice, even if there is few things that I don't really like, I see the point you want to do on your map, and if it's your choice, then keep it like that
[Easy]
00:36:878 (1,2,3) - I don't know why, but this beat feels quite strange... It's like there is a missing clickable beat, why not splitting the reverse into two slider, so it fit better and have a very nice emphasis with the next pattern (3 circles) - https://puu.sh/tVYRL/0cf1db3277.png fixed
01:05:778 (2,3,1) - Once again here, since the end of the slider 01:05:778 (2) - is ending really near of the 01:07:035 (1) - begining, the player will maybe fail here, since it's Easy, and normally the Easy diffs is made for beginner so why not moving one of those note to clarify the pattern? there is a new combo there it pretty clear i think it should be fine
That's all for me !
Good luck for rank

thank you alot was helpful

My Angel Azusa wrote:
bg size of 1662x1199 is really weird tbh, i think you could resize it to regular ones like 1600x1200 sure owo
edit i remembered i took the bg from this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/557651 and it has same size as long as its qualified i dont think its problem also when i resized it to 1900x1200 it came up wierd cut so i prefer keep as it i hope its okay x)

[Easy]
use od2 hp2 yep
The ds between objects is so small that sometimes object almost overlapped.. i suggest cs3.5 tbh, but that will make N icon so yeah,up to you. Visually speaking cs3.5 is 100% better than cs3 i did 3.2cs and still easy icon and visually improved if u disagree ill change to 3.5cs i dont think the icon really matter at that point since its still playes like easy x)

[Normal]
00:15:110 (3,4) - blanket fixed
00:16:326 (4,1,2) - can have equal sides to keep aesthetics. yes fixed
00:36:721 - add a circle here, there's vocal that i think shouldn't be ignored. okay
00:38:763 (5) - down a bit for better flow. ye fixed
01:04:993 - add a circle? added
I suggest cs3.5 as well...as you can see 00:30:595 (3,4) - 00:34:679 (2,3,4) - etc they have such small overlaps, it's kinda uncomfortable. Next time you can try better ds that suits the map. yes i dont have problem changing cs so changed

[Hard]
00:24:029 (2,3) - i see no reason of reducing sv here. the reason is it express the music going slow and fading thats why the slow sv flow with the fade calming of the music also the vocals the slowing up of the two words i like it :c
00:46:616 (4,5,6) - use a reverse slider as before..inconsistency here is weird cuz you know it's actually 1/4 spam here but you simplified it to some reverse sliders i agree with u but other mods insisted to varity but i go with the revers again
01:24:626 (1) - weird slider shape.. eh, fixed xd
00:04:570 (2) - whistle on slider head
00:09:840 (1) - 00:11:056 (2) - 00:22:407 (4) - 00:24:029 (2,3) - same on slider head fixed whistles i didnt want abuse the sound but sounds good :3
00:09:434 (2) - can add whistle if you want i added since i added every third upbeat
00:56:982 (1,2,3) - aesthetics is really off fixed to symmetrycal pattern
Remember to copy hitsound to every diff if hitsounds of lower diffs were copied.
btw the hitsounding also applies to Insane so make sure you apply them in insane as well. yep

reply to mods above as well, call me back when done.

fixed the whistles on all difficulties thank u!

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2017-02-10T20:22:37+00:00

rip blanket tho

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Lilyanna

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Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-02-10T20:31:40+00:00

Thank you HB, Updated.

Kin

2,618 posts

Joined August 2010

Kin 2017-02-10T21:22:48+00:00

Hi ~
good job guys, my heart is really racing with the music & SB. You don't know how I'm feeling weird right now ;w;

[HB's Insane]

00:11:056 (3,4) - according to how you used your sliders to follow vocal on your previous pattern, I think the timeline should be something like this.
00:12:678 (7,1) - same thing goes here. (those are the only one which are like this on the whole slow part)
01:03:108 (1,3) - I know this copy paste is intentional. But I really feel like this slider 01:03:108 (1) - should be 2 circles. Your combo is following the vocal, and by doing so, you can really emphasize this really strong vocal double note. As example something like this flow well and follow the vocal & drum with spacing & flow.

[Hard]

00:22:407 (4,1) - I don't really mind, but pretty sure pple will point out this blanket
00:25:651 (1) - maybe it'll be better to move the spinner 1/4 or 1/2 later to click this vocal ?
00:51:956 (1,2) - maybe just me, but it feel a bit weird playing it with this shape.

[Normal]

00:25:651 - same thing as Hard ? 1/2 later to click this vocal ?

[Easy]

00:25:651 (1) - if you fixed other spinners, I guess this one should also be changed
00:51:956 (1,2,3) - the transition between the sliders & the circle, feel a bit weird with the current shape. http://puu.sh/tXqdK/a205a467ca.jpg
also, the same thing goes here 01:12:061 (1,2,3) -

nice mapset & cool sb!
good luck!

Last edited by Kin 2017-02-10T22:14:48+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Ora

959 posts

Joined November 2014

Ora 2017-02-10T21:24:25+00:00

Speed rank hype

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-10T22:33:55+00:00

Kin wrote:
Hi ~
good job guys, my heart is really racing with the music & SB. You don't know how I'm feeling weird right now ;w; >//< ♥

[Hard]

00:22:407 (4,1) - I don't really mind, but pretty sure pple will point out this blanket ah fixed
00:25:651 (1) - maybe it'll be better to move the spinner 1/4 or 1/2 later to click this vocal ? i think its fine like that it be wierd to start on blue also she pronounce the word exactly on that upbeat
00:51:956 (1,2) - maybe just me, but it feel a bit weird playing it with this shape. its just you xD
[Normal]

00:25:651 - same thing as Hard ? 1/2 later to click this vocal ? same reply above

[Easy]

00:25:651 (1) - if you fixed other spinners, I guess this one should also be changed same
00:51:956 (1,2,3) - the transition between the sliders & the circle, feel a bit weird with the current shape. http://puu.sh/tXqdK/a205a467ca.jpg fixed i made the pattern more easy readable by just spacing the sliders ad give better transition
also, the same thing goes here 01:12:061 (1,2,3) - same fixed
nice mapset & cool sb!
good luck!

thank you alot glad you liked it x)

Starset

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Starset 2017-02-11T12:46:42+00:00

Kin wrote:
Hi ~
good job guys, my heart is really racing with the music & SB. You don't know how I'm feeling weird right now ;w;

[HB's Insane]

00:11:056 (3,4) - according to how you used your sliders to follow vocal on your previous pattern, I think the timeline should be something like this. //there are no sound on white tick unlike my previous pattern
00:12:678 (7,1) - same thing goes here. (those are the only one which are like this on the whole slow part) //same here too
01:03:108 (1,3) - I know this copy paste is intentional. But I really feel like this slider 01:03:108 (1) - should be 2 circles. Your combo is following the vocal, and by doing so, you can really emphasize this really strong vocal double note. As example something like this flow well and follow the vocal & drum with spacing & flow. //my combo is not following vocal lol and neither my rythm since im following bg music and drums to be precise

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-11T12:50:22+00:00

okay updated my changes.

sahuang

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sahuang 2017-02-14T15:31:23+00:00

ok

Lumario

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Lumario 2017-02-14T15:33:17+00:00

Hey it's me Lumario, from my modding queue (^.^)/

General:
I don't know if you care but your map has the same bg as this ranked one https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1179870

HB's Insane:
00:12:678 (6) - I think the Rhythm choice is weird here. You mapped sounds like this 00:05:380 (4,5) - 00:08:624 (3,4) - but you ignored the ones in this slider, so here's a better example http://puu.sh/u2RUE/e8994dddfc.jpg

Hard:
You mapped this sound here once 00:02:745 (2) - at the starting part why not mapping it here 00:05:988 (2) - or here 00:09:232 (2) - etc. too?
00:18:353 (1,2) - and 00:15:110 (1,2) - are basically the same, why did you map them differently?

I guess I've come to late to the party to pull out a significant mod ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hope it helps anyway,
GL Luma

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-14T16:51:32+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
ok

Thank you thank you Hyped! >w<

Lumario wrote:
Hey it's me Lumario, from my modding queue (^.^)/

General:
I don't know if you care but your map has the same bg as this ranked one https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1179870 yes i know its fine i like the bg choice its from same source

Hard:
You mapped this sound here once 00:02:745 (2) - at the starting part why not mapping it here 00:05:988 (2) - or here 00:09:232 (2) - etc. too?
00:18:353 (1,2) - and 00:15:110 (1,2) - are basically the same, why did you map them differently? i idont get what u mean they are mapped, u highlighted them lol and for the sliders i think u mean differnly as the shape i dont see problem its just a style they both flow fine

I guess I've come to late to the party to pull out a significant mod ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hope it helps anyway,
GL Luma

thank u
ps if HB make change from this mod ill updated with second bn.

Starset

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Starset 2017-02-14T17:02:23+00:00

Lumario wrote:
Hey it's me Lumario, from my modding queue (^.^)/

General:
I don't know if you care but your map has the same bg as this ranked one https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1179870

HB's Insane:
00:12:678 (6) - I think the Rhythm choice is weird here. You mapped sounds like this 00:05:380 (4,5) - 00:08:624 (3,4) - but you ignored the ones in this slider, so here's a better example http://puu.sh/u2RUE/e8994dddfc.jpg

its same section as this 00:06:191 (6,1) -and 00:01:326 (2,3) -

Arusamour

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Arusamour 2017-02-16T05:02:36+00:00

holy moly already bubbled gl

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-16T05:38:36+00:00

Thank uuu

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2017-02-18T06:05:20+00:00

Sayuri so good

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-18T10:11:23+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
Sayuri so good

Yessss <3

Doyak

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Doyak 2017-02-19T15:55:23+00:00

Let's improve some hitsounds on easier diffs before we go again. Right now the hitsounds are nothing but a copy&paste from Insane diff, which caused a huge lack of hitsounds on some parts.

In case of the kiai on Easy diff, you can only rarely hear loud claps on very few spots, while the most of the clickable objects hold no additional hitsounds at all. It would be much better if you altered the hitsound pattern to fit the actual notes in this diff.

I won't point out every single places that need improvement, but I'll give some brief opinions from other BNs (thanks Bonsai and Wafu)

So take a deep look on the easier diffs and try to create a proper hitsound indication for that specific difficulty, then call me back and I'll write a proper mod. I'll need to mod hitsound later anyway, so would be better to mod this once you're done with fixing overall hitsounds.

Bonsai

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Bonsai 2017-02-19T17:00:20+00:00

whoa that's me

posting bc I provided an example of how to hitsound the Easy-Kiais

/

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-19T18:42:25+00:00

well did my best fixed hitsound of each difficulty lot of change and added more hitsounds on lower difficulties also added drum samplesets on whistles and claps so they become more audible! updated. thank u guys!

Doyak

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Doyak 2017-02-21T16:27:42+00:00

Alright, now Easy and Normal seems good!

I heard from Sonnyc that 1x1 sb image causes some error on fallback version, so you can check p/5815836 this post to fix it. He also said changing it to 2x2 would be another solution.

[Hard]
* 00:02:745 (2) - This seemed like a bit of random 1/2. I mean you stick to the vocals pretty much on the whole intro but this one is out of place. You didn't put it on 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - etc.
* 00:17:137 (2,3) - These are the only extended-vocal-1/2 sliders in the whole part. Imo it would be more consistent to use a 1/1 slider or a 1/1 reverse slider instead.
* 00:18:353 (1,2) - They look really unbalanced, because you see, those sliders are not exact vertical; (1) is facing a little downward. So move (2) a bit down, or re-balance both sliders to be exactly horizontal.
* From 00:29:339 - to 00:39:391 - . This part is the hardest of the whole map, even though the song is mush less intense than the kiai. Just delete the notes between these and the SR is 2.89. When you delete the whole kiai, it's only 3.21. This is quite opposite than how the song's intensity is.
So I think you need to remove some unimportant notes and use more sliders instead of circles. Like you can consider to remove 00:32:323 (2) - 00:33:579 (2) - , change 00:34:993 (3,4,5) - into a 1/2 reverse slider, bind 00:36:564 (5,6) - 00:37:663 (4,5) - into a 1/2 slider. Wow, only that already decreases SR to 3.04.
Then you would want to make the kiai a bit harder, as it's too easy as the highlight part.
* I feel the kiai can have better rhythm than it has now. It's not bad, but it can be a little more detailed.

For example, 00:49:443 (1,2,3,4) - is generally a vocal-following rhythm, however it ignores 00:50:229 - this drumbeat and instead has a note on 00:49:914 (2) - this weak beat. On the other hand 00:50:700 (1,2,3,4) - is full of 1/2s, and I kinda feel it a bit random instead of following a certain sound layer correctly.
So instead of that you can try https://puu.sh/udgaK/b1bc4cef23.jpg to represent all important sounds more efficiently.

This almost repeats for the entire kiai and I made a rhythm sample for you to understand better. https://puu.sh/udhlS/f37fb3f5dc.osu This should provide enough difficulty on the kiai as well.

[HB's Insane]
Yo, it's been a while since p/5269537
* 00:02:745 (4) - 00:09:232 (4) - 00:14:097 (2) - 00:15:718 (5) - 00:23:826 (2) - They look really random for me to be honest. Like could you explain why 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - 00:07:610 - 00:10:853 - 00:20:583 - don't have a note while they're basically the same sounds?
* 00:39:234 - has really a clear drum beat as much as 00:38:448 (2,3,4,5,6) - , so pass through it?

Your rhythm on the kiai is weird because you're changing your focus so randomly. This is clearly seen on how you handled 00:50:543 - this kind of drumbeats. Your focus is not on that beat but instead 00:50:700 - this vocal, but on 01:10:647 - , which is 95% similar, you almost neglected the vocal and focused on the drumbeat. Things like 01:03:108 (1) - should rather be good to use circle + 1/2 slider because both sounds have vocal, still you used a 1/2 slider to weaken 01:03:265 - this beat.

So here is a list of the parts that have this problem (strong drum on red tick but strong vocal on white tick)
red tick: 00:53:056 - 00:58:082 - 01:00:595 - 01:03:108 - 01:10:647 - 01:15:674 - 01:18:187 -
white tick: 00:50:700 - 00:55:726 - 01:05:778 - 01:20:857 - 01:23:370 -

They make me wonder if you really want to follow that drum sound, because the map mostly is focused on the vocals but you switch between them so randomly. For another example, 01:03:893 (4,5) - look how these are focused on the vocals while you just neglected (I consider sliderend as neglecting when the map is full of jumps) 01:03:265 - this loud vocal sound.

Also some other things I don't agree:
* 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I totally disagree with representing 1/1-strong sounds like this. Each beat of notes are supposed to represent sound(s) on that specific beat, not something around it. Therefore putting jumps on every 1/2s while the sound is only strong at 1/1s is inappropriate imo. Also, why 01:22:113 (6) - is being alone while it is a part of the vocal 'group' with 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ?
* 00:50:386 (5) - 00:55:412 (5) - 01:02:951 (5) - 01:15:517 (5) - etc. They are just being a part of the massive jumps. However, the song isn't constructed with monotone drums. The drum on 00:50:386 - is a lot different than others and that is what creates the unique drum patterns in this song. I'm sad to see them being represented like a simple common drum patterns.
* 00:56:354 (3,4,5) - They're quite intense but the scale is too little?

And to be honest, the structure of the kiai is a bit messy. It's not too bad, but I decided to be more strict to myself.

So sorry Lilyanna, I think you have to find someone else. You can call Azusa too.

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-22T12:47:59+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Alright, now Easy and Normal seems good!

I heard from Sonnyc that 1x1 sb image causes some error on fallback version, so you can check p/5815836 this post to fix it. He also said changing it to 2x2 would be another solution.

[Hard]
* 00:02:745 (2) - This seemed like a bit of random 1/2. I mean you stick to the vocals pretty much on the whole intro but this one is out of place. You didn't put it on 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - etc. how can that be randome lol i make every syllable of her vocals clickable and when her vocal aka any syllable is missiing i mapped the piano which i did same here 00:19:975 (1,2,3) - the reason why i didnt put it on ther is because i was focusing on the vocals to highlight it if i map the piano there the vocals wont be expressed as it should
* 00:17:137 (2,3) - These are the only extended-vocal-1/2 sliders in the whole part. Imo it would be more consistent to use a 1/1 slider or a 1/1 reverse slider instead. variation is okay alot of consistency is kinda dull on such small intro spicying things is fine as long as it make sense and still playes fine i dont see reason to spam 1/1 sliders all way this is a hard difficulty after all i like how it is
* 00:18:353 (1,2) - They look really unbalanced, because you see, those sliders are not exact vertical; (1) is facing a little downward. So move (2) a bit down, or re-balance both sliders to be exactly horizontal. moved 2 little down its not rly big thing
* From 00:29:339 - to 00:39:391 - . This part is the hardest of the whole map, even though the song is mush less intense than the kiai. Just delete the notes between these and the SR is 2.89. When you delete the whole kiai, it's only 3.21. This is quite opposite than how the song's intensity is.
So I think you need to remove some unimportant notes and use more sliders instead of circles. Like you can consider to remove 00:32:323 (2) - 00:33:579 (2) - , change 00:34:993 (3,4,5) - into a 1/2 reverse slider, bind 00:36:564 (5,6) - 00:37:663 (4,5) - into a 1/2 slider. Wow, only that already decreases SR to 3.04.
Then you would want to make the kiai a bit harder, as it's too easy as the highlight part. fixed that part like u said only one i didnt bind into 1/2 i felt it can keep it to circles just before the slow section of the song edit: nvm fixed lol
* I feel the kiai can have better rhythm than it has now. It's not bad, but it can be a little more detailed.

For example, 00:49:443 (1,2,3,4) - is generally a vocal-following rhythm, however it ignores 00:50:229 - this drumbeat and instead has a note on 00:49:914 (2) - this weak beat. On the other hand 00:50:700 (1,2,3,4) - is full of 1/2s, and I kinda feel it a bit random instead of following a certain sound layer correctly.
So instead of that you can try https://puu.sh/udgaK/b1bc4cef23.jpg to represent all important sounds more efficiently. each one has a different way of mapping it and i believe both work but here i did mappeed the strong sound u pointed out and in fact did it in 1/1 stack which even emphasize it more i think its fine the way i did it and the reasong why i did those 1/2 repeats because if u listen there is drums so i am following a certain rythm also the vocals match up very nicely i hope i made it clear

This almost repeats for the entire kiai and I made a rhythm sample for you to understand better. https://puu.sh/udhlS/f37fb3f5dc.osu This should provide enough difficulty on the kiai as well.

So sorry Lilyanna, I think you have to find someone else. You can call Azusa too.

thx for ur time

Starset

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Starset 2017-02-23T11:47:53+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Alright, now Easy and Normal seems good!

I heard from Sonnyc that 1x1 sb image causes some error on fallback version, so you can check p/5815836 this post to fix it. He also said changing it to 2x2 would be another solution.

[HB's Insane]
Yo, it's been a while since p/5269537
* 00:02:745 (4) - 00:09:232 (4) - 00:14:097 (2) - 00:15:718 (5) - 00:23:826 (2) - They look really random for me to be honest. Like could you explain why 00:01:124 - 00:04:367 - 00:07:610 - 00:10:853 - 00:20:583 - don't have a note while they're basically the same sounds?
* 00:39:234 - has really a clear drum beat as much as 00:38:448 (2,3,4,5,6) - , so pass through it? //in a previous mod it was told that 00:01:124 - kind of sound is unoticable for the player so i removed and ofc i agreed with it

Your rhythm on the kiai is weird because you're changing your focus so randomly. This is clearly seen on how you handled 00:50:543 - this kind of drumbeats. Your focus is not on that beat but instead 00:50:700 - this vocal, but on 01:10:647 - , which is 95% similar, you almost neglected the vocal and focused on the drumbeat. Things like 01:03:108 (1) - should rather be good to use circle + 1/2 slider because both sounds have vocal, still you used a 1/2 slider to weaken 01:03:265 - this beat.

So here is a list of the parts that have this problem (strong drum on red tick but strong vocal on white tick)
red tick: 00:53:056 - 00:58:082 - 01:00:595 - 01:03:108 - 01:10:647 - 01:15:674 - 01:18:187 -
white tick: 00:50:700 - 00:55:726 - 01:05:778 - 01:20:857 - 01:23:370 -

They make me wonder if you really want to follow that drum sound, because the map mostly is focused on the vocals but you switch between them so randomly. For another example, 01:03:893 (4,5) - look how these are focused on the vocals while you just neglected (I consider sliderend as neglecting when the map is full of jumps) 01:03:265 - this loud vocal sound. //for the kiai i followed only drums and bg music not vocals exept for this part 01:03:893 - i decided to focus on vocals since they are getting pretty important then i got back to my old rythm here 01:09:548 - wich follows drums
Also some other things I don't agree:
* 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I totally disagree with representing 1/1-strong sounds like this. Each beat of notes are supposed to represent sound(s) on that specific beat, not something around it. Therefore putting jumps on every 1/2s while the sound is only strong at 1/1s is inappropriate imo. Also, why 01:22:113 (6) - is being alone while it is a part of the vocal 'group' with 01:22:428 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ? //6 is not the part where vocals start getting intense imo and sry that u dont like it but jumps are the only intense way to represent an intense part of the song i dont want to put slider since it will be easy
* 00:50:386 (5) - 00:55:412 (5) - 01:02:951 (5) - 01:15:517 (5) - etc. They are just being a part of the massive jumps. However, the song isn't constructed with monotone drums. The drum on 00:50:386 - is a lot different than others and that is what creates the unique drum patterns in this song. I'm sad to see them being represented like a simple common drum patterns. //sry im not pro mapper to represent every single sound in a specefic way i give emphasis to the most important note which is 00:50:543 (6) -
* 00:56:354 (3,4,5) - They're quite intense but the scale is too little? //i think its not a huge deal

And to be honest, the structure of the kiai is a bit messy. It's not too bad, but I decided to be more strict to myself.

So sorry Lilyanna, I think you have to find someone else. You can call Azusa too.

Lilyanna

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Lilyanna 2017-02-23T12:03:46+00:00

fixed the sb its updated

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