1. Annihilation (6.83 stars, 3606 notes)

frukoyurdakul wrote:

IRC with Nishizumi (25/11/2017 15:16 UTC)

17:16 Nishizumi: hi fruko o/
17:16 frukoyurdakul: hello
17:16 Nishizumi: would you like to test latest destroyer?
17:17 frukoyurdakul: okay
17:17 Nishizumi: thank you
17:24 frukoyurdakul: eeh that was a bad play lol
17:24 Nishizumi: do you feel what has changed?
17:24 frukoyurdakul: kinda
17:24 frukoyurdakul: some patterns and streams
17:24 Nishizumi: nope, it's good
17:24 Nishizumi:
17:24 frukoyurdakul: the progression of kkddkdd
17:24 frukoyurdakul: kkkdkdd
17:24 frukoyurdakul: kkkdkkd is spreaded out like your other inferi map
17:25 Nishizumi: what
17:25 Nishizumi: xDD
17:25 frukoyurdakul: some of the ddddk at the slow SV part kinda felt a bit excessive but I'll look that too
17:25 Nishizumi: it's structured
17:25 frukoyurdakul: no I mean I haven't hear 1/4 drums on one of them (I guess)
17:26 frukoyurdakul: which is more important since it's the slow part lol
17:26 Nishizumi: where
17:26 frukoyurdakul: hmm
17:26 frukoyurdakul: I misheard then while playing
17:27 Nishizumi: xD
17:27 frukoyurdakul: 02:49:171 - there is missing one here tho
17:27 frukoyurdakul: 02:29:491 - compared to this
17:28 Nishizumi: nice catch
17:28 frukoyurdakul: let me mod this whole thing
17:29 Nishizumi: but there's no modder yet
17:30 frukoyurdakul: I didn't mean bub
17:30 frukoyurdakul: i meant mod
17:30 frukoyurdakul: 01:05:491 - don here maybe?
17:30 frukoyurdakul: the guitar is pretty low
17:30 frukoyurdakul: 01:05:251 - kat on this if you accept
17:31 Nishizumi: oh, i thought you only mod mine when there's at least one modder
17:31 frukoyurdakul: doesn't matter
17:31 frukoyurdakul: I won't say much tbh
17:32 frukoyurdakul: it's already good
17:32 Nishizumi: nope
17:32 Nishizumi: keep this
17:32 Nishizumi: i think don after triplet is better
17:32 Nishizumi: 3 same color after triplet feels strange for me
17:33 frukoyurdakul: understandable
17:33 frukoyurdakul: 01:40:291 (1244) - eeh
17:33 frukoyurdakul: 01:43:051 - end the slider here
17:33 Nishizumi: it's bug
17:33 frukoyurdakul: missing tick is not important
17:33 Nishizumi: it's important
17:33 frukoyurdakul: actually that kind of usage is forbidden now
17:33 frukoyurdakul: it should end at the right tick
17:34 frukoyurdakul: due to score v2
17:34 Nishizumi: what the fuk
17:35 frukoyurdakul: im serious
17:35 frukoyurdakul: one of Raiden's maps got DQed because of this issue
17:35 Nishizumi: but naturally, the slider tick should be odd tick
17:35 Nishizumi: wtf
17:35 Nishizumi: this thing is very weird
17:35 frukoyurdakul: 01:43:051 - just end it here instead of 1/8 snap
17:36 Nishizumi: well
17:36 Nishizumi: ok
17:36 Nishizumi: v2 ruins everything
17:37 frukoyurdakul: 02:19:891 - triplet seems a bit undermapped
17:37 frukoyurdakul: 02:20:371 - same here but this one is understandable
17:38 Nishizumi: but it follows the drum very well
17:38 frukoyurdakul: 02:20:071 - not really
17:38 frukoyurdakul: there is a sound there
17:39 frukoyurdakul: kick, to be precise
17:39 frukoyurdakul: so kkddk would be better
17:39 Nishizumi: i don't want to use 5plet here
17:39 Nishizumi: this 1/2 feels in slow part
17:39 frukoyurdakul: what does that mean?
17:39 Nishizumi: so better to use triplet only
17:40 frukoyurdakul: but the sounds are not the same as before
17:40 Nishizumi: before?
17:41 frukoyurdakul: also it'll fit the alternate purposes
17:41 frukoyurdakul: 02:12:211 - this section I meant
17:41 Nishizumi: also 02:20:011 - has stronger guitar, i combined it all lol
17:41 Nishizumi: 02:12:211 - has no triplet on drum
17:41 frukoyurdakul: yes
17:41 frukoyurdakul: the 2nd one has 5-plet
17:42 frukoyurdakul: no 3-plet
17:42 frukoyurdakul: that's what I meant
17:42 Nishizumi: yea
17:42 frukoyurdakul: guitar is 1/2 flat
17:42 frukoyurdakul: drum is 1/4
17:42 frukoyurdakul: but you used 3-plet to mix them up
17:42 frukoyurdakul: sounds kinda weird
17:43 Nishizumi: if i put 5plet, it would rise too much
17:43 Nishizumi: as i said, this is slow part, that has only 1/2 snap
17:43 frukoyurdakul: so why do you use 3plet?
17:43 Nishizumi: so i rise this a bit only
17:44 Nishizumi: also this triplet is stronger for either guitar and drum
17:44 Nishizumi: but not to 5plet
17:45 frukoyurdakul: I felt weak when I saw a triplet there,but your choice
17:45 frukoyurdakul: 02:48:451 - 02:48:691 - swap these?
17:46 Nishizumi: i see. in alternating, the next long stream would be started from left hand. maybe because of that xD
17:47 frukoyurdakul: exactly
17:47 frukoyurdakul: and your map mostly follows the starting with right hand
17:47 Nishizumi: :p
17:47 Nishizumi: but 5-plet seems rise too much, as i said
17:47 frukoyurdakul: your choice
17:48 frukoyurdakul: well, what about swap?
17:48 Nishizumi: ok
17:48 Nishizumi: 02:48:451 - changed to d, only this
17:48 frukoyurdakul: 02:48:691 - I think kat on this is important due to the cymbal on it
17:49 frukoyurdakul: since 02:48:211 - 02:48:331 - 02:48:571 - these are on cymbal sounds and they are all kat
17:50 Nishizumi: i see, but i feel this last cymbal goes down
17:50 frukoyurdakul: sounds same to me
17:50 frukoyurdakul: idk
17:50 frukoyurdakul: kkdkk feels way better imo, as a pattern
17:50 Nishizumi: lol
17:51 Nishizumi: i don't think so
17:51 Nishizumi: k-k-x-x-d-d would be fun
17:51 Nishizumi: i think
17:52 frukoyurdakul: 03:29:731 - SV should be
17:52 frukoyurdakul: 1,0638
17:52 frukoyurdakul: the last note comes a bit slower now
17:53 Nishizumi: so 1.06x ?
17:53 frukoyurdakul: the editor accepts the value
17:53 frukoyurdakul: just enter, it only rounds up
17:54 Nishizumi: ok
17:54 Nishizumi: done
17:54 Nishizumi: looks better
17:54 frukoyurdakul: 03:36:879 - I can see the structure
17:54 frukoyurdakul: but the guitar is much stronger there
17:54 frukoyurdakul: maybe add don?
17:56 Nishizumi: not as strong as you think, this could be ignored by focusing on d k k d + sv changes
17:56 frukoyurdakul: was just a suggestion
17:56 Nishizumi: i know
17:57 frukoyurdakul: 04:10:071 - depends, but I'd use don here
17:58 Nishizumi: for simpler pattern
17:58 Nishizumi: kdddk is more common than it
17:58 frukoyurdakul: 04:49:901 - something along kdkdk fits better here
17:58 frukoyurdakul: starting from that spot I can suggest kdkdkkddk
17:59 frukoyurdakul: it'll also emphasize the high guitar on 04:50:156 - this spot
18:00 Nishizumi: yep
18:00 Nishizumi: kdkdkkddk is better
18:00 Nishizumi: changed
18:00 frukoyurdakul: finally you accepted something lol
18:01 Nishizumi: lol
18:01 Nishizumi: fun fact: i only accept one mod in past inferi
18:02 frukoyurdakul: 05:37:645 - hmm
18:02 Nishizumi: btw i accept your swap on cymbal, but i modify it :/
18:02 frukoyurdakul: depends on you
18:02 frukoyurdakul: but
18:02 frukoyurdakul: 05:37:900 - kkkk instead of dddd due to guitar
18:02 frukoyurdakul: how about that?
18:02 Nishizumi: wait
18:02 frukoyurdakul: monostream for the entire stanza haha
18:04 Nishizumi: damn i'm not as evil as it
18:04 Nishizumi: lol
18:05 frukoyurdakul: 05:56:538 - I recommend kdddk or kkddk
18:05 Nishizumi: i think my evilness is enough at 02:12:931 - monocolor in 250bpm
18:05 frukoyurdakul: agreed
18:06 frukoyurdakul: (doesn't affect me tho lol)
18:07 Nishizumi: i don't think i follow guitar here
18:07 Nishizumi: lol
18:08 frukoyurdakul: well it also follow drums
18:08 frukoyurdakul: if you change
18:08 frukoyurdakul: kdkkd emphasizes nothing rn
18:08 Nishizumi: eeh
18:08 Nishizumi: i thought it was kick
18:08 Nishizumi: i was sure
18:09 frukoyurdakul: it has both
18:09 frukoyurdakul: snare + kick
18:09 frukoyurdakul: use finisher then
18:09 frukoyurdakul: :^)
18:09 Nishizumi: oh
18:09 frukoyurdakul: nah im joking
18:09 frukoyurdakul:
18:10 Nishizumi: since i think, this can be emphasized for 05:57:049 - with same color
18:10 frukoyurdakul: so you keep it?
18:10 Nishizumi: i think i will
18:11 frukoyurdakul: 06:14:410 - I think you can do a stronger ending like
18:11 frukoyurdakul: 06:14:793 - kats until there
18:11 frukoyurdakul: and starting from there donds
18:11 frukoyurdakul: dons*
18:12 frukoyurdakul: 06:15:176 - and a kat finisher at the end
18:12 frukoyurdakul: simply follow the drums I mean
18:14 Nishizumi: changed kat until 06:14:602 - only, and start from 06:14:666 - it's ddddkkkkd-spinner
18:14 frukoyurdakul: kkkkddddkkkkd then
18:14 frukoyurdakul: okay
18:14 Nishizumi: i don't want to cut my stream
18:14 frukoyurdakul: what
18:14 frukoyurdakul: you won't lol
18:15 Nishizumi: i mean, i don't want to put finisher
18:15 frukoyurdakul: ah
18:15 frukoyurdakul: simple kat would work too
18:15 Nishizumi: this is simple enough too
18:15 frukoyurdakul: okay
18:15 frukoyurdakul: that's all from me
18:16 Nishizumi: xD
18:16 frukoyurdakul: get one mod, 12 sp
18:16 Nishizumi: thank you
18:16 Nishizumi: ok

1. 00:19:531 (164) - Though it has a nice representation with the guitar, it affects gameplay a bit. I mean, if it was a don, it would cohere with 00:19:651 (165) -. Otherwise, it might lock someone's finger such as I.
2. 01:47:491 (1285,1286,1287) - I am not sure if kdk is a good alternative. From my standpoint, kkk would represent the drum in a better way.
3. 05:03:177 (190,191) - Well, just a suggestion and might be kinda picky. Change into kk to show how high and strong the guitar sound is, imo. There's other alternatives, though.
4. 05:46:836 (727,728,729,730,731) - It is weird to have dons over such a strong drum sounds. Consider deleting 05:46:772 (726) - and add a finisher to the notes I pointed out. Same goes for 05:59:027 (864,865,866,867,868,869) -.
5. 06:02:666 - I strongly suggest to nerf the SVs. It's even harder to read than Those Who From the Heavens Came, to be fair. Also, you're not that evil. Release the angel inside you. :^)

zigizigiefe wrote:

Modding v1 will rise again someday..

1. 00:19:531 (164) - Though it has a nice representation with the guitar, it affects gameplay a bit. I mean, if it was a don, it would cohere with 00:19:651 (165) -. Otherwise, it might lock someone's finger such as I. i feel strange with that kind of pattern like that. i mean, triple monocolor in the end stream looks bad for me. so i avoid that pattern by adding kat here
2. 01:47:491 (1285,1286,1287) - I am not sure if kdk is a good alternative. From my standpoint, kkk would represent the drum in a better way. i listen with 50% playback rate and it would be more fit with kdk instead. kick and snare change sequentially.
3. 05:03:177 (190,191) - Well, just a suggestion and might be kinda picky. Change into kk to show how high and strong the guitar sound is, imo. There's other alternatives, though. you may know it's structured. this kiai has 4 longstreams. first, the main structure is kkddk. second,the main structure pattern is kkddk. and third, the main structure pattern is kkkdk. because it's kkkdk, i won't the next stream has full kat, so i do on the third as kkkdkddd fourth as kkkdkkdd. i did this structure on my past inferi too
4. 05:46:836 (727,728,729,730,731) - It is weird to have dons over such a strong drum sounds. Consider deleting 05:46:772 (726) - and add a finisher to the notes I pointed out. Same goes for 05:59:027 (864,865,866,867,868,869) -. oh you're right, but still has doubt in myself about this lol. changed this first, and other pattern like this
5. 06:02:666 - I strongly suggest to nerf the SVs. It's even harder to read than Those Who From the Heavens Came, to be fair. Also, you're not that evil. Release the angel inside you. :^) nope, it's readable. it's only 230bpm. as a player (too), i can see these patterns, except with HR. but who's crazy guy that be able to hr this except soba :/ this used for emphasizing the vocals btw xD for more unique display

i guess i lost my focus on my modding or the map is pretty solid, i think both of them. sorry for short mod btw, i didn't really want to break any structure accidentally =w=

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bring more metal to ranked.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Raiden wrote:

bring more metal to ranked.