with two scum at play that makes it really easy for them to divert scumreads to someone else and thus town losesAnd one last thing; that seems exactly what has happened here, it seem a bit strange that - besides Sakura for a short time - any support for lynching you seems to have completely died after rEdo died. As I've repeated before it doesn't make sense that none of the scum is going for you if you are a townie. Seems like it would have been easy to bandwagon you at the start of D3 that they all could have jumped on.
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B1rd wrote:
Also, going into this a bit more, I have no idea when being stubborn is a scumread because it feels like you just made that up. Of course you have to follow your scumreads because with two scum at play that makes it really easy for them to divert scumreads to someone else and this town loses. It's not "being stubborn", it's that you have done nothing to convince me you're not scum and the game has gone on you've just been even more scummy than before with all your AtE, calling anyone who is against you scum, etc.beeboy123 wrote:
Tunneling me for literally the entire game and being incredibly stubborn about your reads is still a scum tell. Yes it comes from town sometimes but a vast majority of the time it comes from scum.
You haven't tried to reavaluate your read on me once this game.
Even when I was 1v1ing Sakura she was trying to figure out if I was town (even before I killed motivation to play died for a bit) you are pushing me to get a lynch not to game solve is what I am saying.
Also you keep saying I am trying to AtE when I self voted and literally never brought it up again. You also fail to address like half the arguments I make about your points on me.
You are going for me and Hika is going for me and you are also scum?B1rd wrote:
with two scum at play that makes it really easy for them to divert scumreads to someone else and thus town losesAnd one last thing; that seems exactly what has happened here, it seem a bit strange that - besides Sakura for a short time - any support for lynching you seems to have completely died after rEdo died. As I've repeated before it doesn't make sense that none of the scum is going for you if you are a townie. Seems like it would have been easy to bandwagon you at the start of D3 that they all could have jumped on.
What reason do you have to town read Hika?
aand you keep going on bout how tired you are of this game and how you've lost all motivation. You also threatened to intentionally make town lose, how can I overlook that?beeboy123 wrote:
You haven't tried to reavaluate your read on me once this game.
Even when I was 1v1ing Sakura she was trying to figure out if I was town (even before I killed motivation to play died for a bit) you are pushing me to get a lynch not to game solve is what I am saying.
Also you keep saying I am trying to AtE when I self voted and literally never brought it up again. You also fail to address like half the arguments I make about your points on me.
I haven't addressed a lot of your arguments because frankly the reasons I have scumread you are due to critical flaws in your gameplay and that's not something you can just talk your way out of like you did with Sakura. Your conversation with Sakura was just all about meta from other games and has little substance from this game. I would address things you said if I thought it would be productive, but it seems to me just arguing about interpretation that has little use except clogging up the thread and making it more confusing for everyone else to read.
Maybe I haven't been critical enough of other people, and it is hard sometimes to keep track of everyone and everything they do in this thread. I guess I'll wait for Sakura to come up with whatever things she's looking into.
[quote=beeboy123"] You are going for me and Hika is going for me and you are also scum?
What reason do you have to town read Hika?[/quote]
I'm pretty sure Hika townread you in this thread recently...
The whole day 2 fiasco made me think she was town, and she hasn't done a whole lot to make me think she's scum, or given me any reason to prioritise her over my stronger scumreads.
I'm pretty sure Hika townread you in this thread recently...beeboy123 wrote:
You are going for me and Hika is going for me and you are also scum?
What reason do you have to town read Hika?
The whole day 2 fiasco made me think she was town, and she hasn't done a whole lot to make me think she's scum, or given me any reason to prioritise her over my stronger scumreads.
I would've liked to take care of that today but with the lack of ability to do double ISOs and knowing i need to re-read the entire thing has made me lazyB1rd wrote:
beeboy123 wrote:
I guess I'll wait for Sakura to come up with whatever things she's looking into.
And honestly with the way you're going against bee, I figure it'd be kinda useless, you seem to have closed up to the possibility of being wrong.
Finally somebody I can share my feelings with. I kinda went "nope" to any more analyzing until the weekend after I posted that failure, which btw took me about 2 hours to compile. Not sure if I will not be lazy then too, but oh well.Sakura wrote:
but with the lack of ability to do double ISOs and knowing i need to re-read the entire thing has made me lazy
Topic Starter
Votecount 3.5
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
abraker [1] - Sakura
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
B1rd [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Hika,Frostings , beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
abraker [1] - Sakura
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
B1rd [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Hika,Frostings , beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Frostings is V/LA is over.
Day 3 ends on March 4th, 01:30 AM UTC.
I just realized i screwed up the quote, it should be B1rd's quote, not bee's.
I don't think this applies here because half of us are confused on who to vote off since Jess. I knew Jess would flip town but that's like... the usual lol.B1rd wrote:
Can we consider our current situation for a moment? If beeboy wasn't scum then it doesn't make any sense that everyone else is either apathetic or against a beeboy lynch. It would only makes sense that if he weren't scum the actual scum would be trying to push a bandwagon to win.
It's easy to play capt. hindsight, but I did want to lynch bee yesterday when he was a hair's breadth away; I'm not apathetic but rather I'm annoyed that he somehow managed to convince other people with his weak AtE arguments that contain about as little substance as all the rest of his play.
I can literally throw out like a few guesses on who I could assume are scum but it's not easy because it's not like anyone of you guys are using a powerful argument to sway the rest of us to vote a certain person. I mean, you can say you all are but at the end of the day, you don't have a valid reason to vote someone at the moment unless you can pin point certain interactions with each other.
That's the only way town can win right now. You have to see who has the most interactions together. It looks suspicious when you've only mentioned something to each other D1 but haven't tried any of the other two days.
That's how I'm planning to look for scum so sorry dead townies bc I don't know how the hell im going to win lol
I know I quoted Sakura here but @bird, don't u think frosty has been babbling this entire time too? ;pSakura wrote:
And honestly with the way you're going against bee, I figure it'd be kinda useless, you seem to have closed up to the possibility of being wrong.
Mind you I haven't read the last two pages. I'll be getting to that really soon.
Hm, I'm actually having a hard time reading this game (though my reads are usually wrong anyway 
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I only trust Hika because my townread on her is something I think is more objective
I have an idea, but it would involve everybody sharing their reads and then No Lynching
)I only trust Hika because my townread on her is something I think is more objective
I have an idea, but it would involve everybody sharing their reads and then No Lynching
even if we lynch scum today, it'll still be Mylo tomorrow so regardless we need to lynch both scums consecutively
the only difference in No Lynching today is that we need 100% of town to agree on the correct lynch tomorrow vs 2 scum alive
the only difference in No Lynching today is that we need 100% of town to agree on the correct lynch tomorrow vs 2 scum alive
I honestly think one more flip would do us good here...
That's just me though. I dont want to lynch either. just because i am extremely not confident with my reads at all.
That's just me though. I dont want to lynch either. just because i am extremely not confident with my reads at all.
aand you keep going on bout how tired you are of this game and how you've lost all motivation. You also threatened to intentionally make town lose, how can I overlook that?But I didn't even do that o3o.
I haven't addressed a lot of your arguments because frankly the reasons I have scumread you are due to critical flaws in your gameplay and that's not something you can just talk your way out of like you did with Sakura. Your conversation with Sakura was just all about meta from other games and has little substance from this game. I would address things you said if I thought it would be productive, but it seems to me just arguing about interpretation that has little use except clogging up the thread and making it more confusing for everyone else to read.I mean you make points I explain how they are wrong and you never bother to reconsider your read knowing that which isn't really town.
Like I am not saying after I say something you say is completely false you should TR me but the fact you aren't even bothering is really iffy.
I'm pretty sure Hika townread you in this thread recently...Hika wanted to vote me and Frosty IIRC
Oops almost deleted that post...
Also I don't want to no lynch atm scum have too much info to work with.
Also I don't want to no lynch atm scum have too much info to work with.
beeboy123 wrote:
Sakura-sama why don't you think b1rd is scum D:
Sakura wrote:
As per my pairings post, i had abraker as 100% scum while B1rd as 50% scum, that may change given these new possibilities.
What about his posts themselves how do you feel about those? Not just partner spec
I feel like he's stuck on a tunnel and that's all i feel.
bboy, I wanted to vote you but I changed my mind and deemed you and Sakura town.
Fuck me if I'm wrong but I want a frosty lynch maybe.
Fuck me if I'm wrong but I want a frosty lynch maybe.
Topic Starter
To prod or not to prod everyone... that is the question.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
abraker, Frostings and B1rd have been prodded.
Day 3 ends on March 4th, 01:30 AM UTC.
Votecount 3.6
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
abraker [1] - Sakura
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
B1rd [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Hika,Frostings , beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
abraker [1] - Sakura
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
B1rd [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Hika,Frostings , beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
abraker, Frostings and B1rd have been prodded.
Day 3 ends on March 4th, 01:30 AM UTC.
I'm just burnt out from arguing with people... in this thread and others.
Topic Starter
This is a friendly reminder that deadline is in about 8 hours.
Hello, this is a response to a prod.
Anyway, I can't make out anything until at least one mafia is lynched. Frostings seems the safest choice imo, and I am ready to pit the rope around my neck if he is not mafia just so that this headache can end.
Anyway, I can't make out anything until at least one mafia is lynched. Frostings seems the safest choice imo, and I am ready to pit the rope around my neck if he is not mafia just so that this headache can end.
A mislynch means game over for town.
Ya but two of u scummy fucks aren't deserving of your win anyways so :u
Who are you calling a scummy fuck, scummy fuck?Hika wrote:
Ya but two of u scummy fucks aren't deserving of your win anyways so :u
Town me is.
Everyone is guilty untill proven innocentHika wrote:
Town me is.
ok let's watch you flip then
Oh don't be so modest. You can go first.Hika wrote:
ok let's watch you flip then
Frosty abraker
Frosty + Sakura
Frosty + BBoy
Frosty + Hika
Frosty + B1rd
From most likely to most unlikely imo
Frosty + BBoy
Frosty + Hika
Frosty + B1rd
From most likely to most unlikely imo
You got one shot at this as B1rd said, how sure are you?beeboy123 wrote:
Vote: Abraker