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Newbie Game 15: Rise From The Ashes [Game over!]

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Sakura
You should probably post your reads and final thoughts depending on Jess flip, i'll give you time to do that.
abraker
Insights: Jess must have given up judging by her not voting in addition to the self vote
Comments: none
rEdo
Unvote

Just in case.
B1rd
Sorry lol, I was in the middle of a post and then I got a call from the Australian wine company wanting to sell me wines :lol:
Hika
I don't have anything to say.
bboy and frosty is what I'll be most concerned about.
Frostings
unless we have a confscum there's no way we're not lynching Jess today
Having Jess alive during Xylo is the worst spot to be in
We need her to flip while we still have a guaranteed free lynch available
abraker
I'm on 2%
cya in half hour
rEdo
Votecount from D1 lynch:

Zexion wrote:

Votecount 1.4 (D1 Final)
Dawnsday [5] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, -[Jess]- (LYNCH)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Dawnsday, Sakura, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Now, let's consider two cases for D3.
  1. If Jess flips town: I don't like to repeat myself, but like I said, beeboy is 99% scum if that's the case. I will also point a FoS from the grave on Frostings. I mean, look at the D1 votecount. I'm not exactly sure about Hika, but my gut tells me she's town. As for beeboy's partner, um, I see abraker as his most possible partner.
  2. If Jess flips scum: If I were still in the game I would cry over my existence because of not being able to read the game properly, but hey, that's Jess we're dealing with. I'm not really sure who could be her partner, but considering her reads from D1, abraker and/or Frostings would make me worry. However, that would make beeboy pretty much town because he wouldn't push his scumpartner just in order to save himself (unless WIFOM). I believe that ike literally everything that happens after that flip is going to heavily rely on what you guys are gonna do in the following day.
In either cases I have no idea how to read abraker, he generally leans scum, but there's no way Frostings and abraker can be scum at the same time.

Any last questions? I will hammer if anyone votes earlier.
Sakura
Unvote
Vote: Jess
Sakura
Feel free to hammer whenever you're ready
rEdo
So be it.
Vote: -[Jess]-
rEdo
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Topic Starter
Zexion
you guys were lucky I didn't disconnect (I was expecting this anyways)

Votecount 2.10 (Day 2 Final)
-[Jess]- [5] - beeboy123, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, Sakura (LYNCH)
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
Hika [0] -
rEdo [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
B1rd [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [1] - -[Jess]-
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved. Scene coming soon.
rEdo
I would kill you if you hadn't.
rEdo
I mean I want to know the flip and take some sleep already x.x
rEdo
ZEXION PLS
Topic Starter
Zexion
*waiting intensifies*
rEdo
FUCK OFF LOL
Topic Starter
Zexion
@rEdo: Not to mention you would have had to wait like another full day until I got access to a PC.

"After a great battle that's really hard for me to write at 11 PM having to get up at 5AM next day to go to work (and rEdo would probably kill me IRL if I don't post this soon), Jess had to answer for her crimes.

Crimes she didn't commit. She seemed completely innocent."


-[Jess]-, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched Day 2.


It is now Night 2. It ends 48 hours after this post, that is Feb 26th, 01:30 UTC.
(48 hours long nights will be kept since it's a newbie game)
All actions are due to my inbox until that date.
Topic Starter
Zexion
"rEdo was kinda suicidal from yesterday, wasn't he?

Yeah that guy was like "I'm gonna be killed!", who could ever die or let alone be killed in a town so peaceful like this?

If I recall correctly that guy was always paranoid, I think he purchased a bulletproof vest before coming here.

Hey, wait a second.... what's that on the plaza....?

Oh...."


rEdo, 1-shot Bulletproof Townie, was killed Night 2.

It is now Day 2. It ends 6 days after this post, that is March 4th, 01:30 AM UTC.

Votecount 3.0 (Day 3 Start)
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
Frostings [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [6] - Hika, Sakura, abraker , Frostings , B1rd, beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
rEdo
Bah.
Sakura
Vote: beeboy
Sakura
Oh wait this is MyLo
Vote: No Lynch
Sakura
Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost, not sure if there's a point to voting NL if bee's gonna be lynched either way even if it's today or tomorrow.
Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.
Sakura

Sakura wrote:

Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.
To expand on this, i was actually hoping scum would have no killed N1 for one reason or another, but since rEdo died, there's no doubt anymore he was the N1 shot.
beeboy123
I am actually starting to think Sakura is scum tbh I'll post more later don't put me at L-2 during mylo pls.
beeboy123
All arguments on me she hasn't conceded is that we think differently usually and we had the same reads this game and I don't think she would use that garbage of a read on me.
Don't get me wrong we do think differently in almost if not all the games we play together it just doesn't make me scum and she knows that.


vote: Sakura
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost
X is town game = lost
X is scum game = deserve to lose

Very much bs scum tend to say in lylo.
beeboy123
I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost
X is town game = lost
X is scum game = deserve to lose

Very much bs scum tend to say in lylo.
This is so not true, lol.
beeboy123
She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.
Sakura
Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened
Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.

last night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.
Guess you can ignore I was on VLA for all of D2 until he end of the day phase and argue this sure.
And also ignore the change in all my other reads at the time
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's one way to say pushing everyone until you can see what sticks as a player who likes to town hunt sure.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.
Oh wow that happened within 3 RL days? i didnt notice. It felt a lot longer.
My read on you is very legit, for someone that was scumreading Hika, you didnt lift a finger when we were arguing before i townread her, for someone scumreading abraker, you didnt do a thing either, all you cared was about vote parking Jess.

beeboy123 wrote:

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.
Hey i know you kinda have to do your best to get a mislynch, but at least get your facts straight ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
l

beeboy123 wrote:

ast night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.
>The same
>Bird pushes you for not scumhunting
>I push you out of paranoia because we never have the same reads.

Much similar, very wow.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.
Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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