-[Jess]-, why is Beeboy123 a townie?
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Btw i like the data you're piling up, it'll be useful, but it's useless if you don't know how to use it.
Also my initial Dawn read was a reaction test, which was piled together with frosty and bee, after i got nothing from the reaction test the only ones i remained with a townread on were bee and frosty.
These posts make a reference to that:
I simply have a hard time reading new players which is why im heavily interrogating and trying to figure out his motives.
Also my initial Dawn read was a reaction test, which was piled together with frosty and bee, after i got nothing from the reaction test the only ones i remained with a townread on were bee and frosty.
These posts make a reference to that:
Sakura wrote:
My 3 straight up townreads in general were pretty much rxn testing but most people ignored it, and i already solidified a townread on you due to something else so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sakura wrote:
Hika's not off the wagon :V
Also #NoResistanceToWagon #WagonTooQuick #TotesTown
No really, that's some of the things anti hates, scum does bus you know. IF he's town tho, there's at least 1 scum on his wagon, but i dont see the need for pre-wagon analysis right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He's not a townread and there's 2 townreads voting him.
Also you're asking him why is Hika scum when you're voting Hika.
He's not a scumread either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯abraker wrote:
No need to vote. Simply declaring a scumread would sufficeSakura wrote:
First of all, a vote from me would equal to a lynch.
I simply have a hard time reading new players which is why im heavily interrogating and trying to figure out his motives.
You also seem to have missed my B1rd townread :V
I did. Which post?Sakura wrote:
You also seem to have missed my B1rd townread :V
Sakura wrote:
Maybe he's just avoiding outing any more connections at this point u.u
All he keeps talking about is "The outcome if im lynched" instead of scumhunting or elaborating on his Hika scumread.
I would want to hear more from Jess but im 100% sure i cant read her even if she posted more.
I want to hear more from abraker tho.
B1rd looks town.
I don't recall saying bboy was town?
If I did, forgive me, I just don't recall saying that @ab
If I did, forgive me, I just don't recall saying that @ab
I can vouch that indeed abraker is a master of graphs and flowcharts. @Sakura, I'm interested to know why you don't have a scumread on Dawnsday, because so far there's been a lot of red flags, at least in my opinion.
Fair enough.Frostings wrote:
I voted Dawnsday because his posts up to my vote on him were all commentary with little analysis and initiative to find scum
also he keep using the "new to the game" card but I don't believe him
Oh also @abraker, I like your analysis but i'd also like to know your conclusions and stances.
@B1rd: There's a lot of false positives that tend to occur, I'm tired of mislynches happening due to them, you probably havent noticed since most of my playstyle change due to it happened with my Alt in MS, but nowadays i dont really do much of a scumhunt as opposed to a townhunt, and while there's still potential people that could be scum i tend to not pursue something hard.
I mean my last game on there i did that to bee for like half the game and then he flipped town and i got demotivated and got hit by Apathy.
@B1rd: There's a lot of false positives that tend to occur, I'm tired of mislynches happening due to them, you probably havent noticed since most of my playstyle change due to it happened with my Alt in MS, but nowadays i dont really do much of a scumhunt as opposed to a townhunt, and while there's still potential people that could be scum i tend to not pursue something hard.
I mean my last game on there i did that to bee for like half the game and then he flipped town and i got demotivated and got hit by Apathy.
There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.
@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?
@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?
[img]Oh%20also%20@abraker,%20I%20like%20your%20analysis%20but%20i'd%20also%20like%20to%20know%20your%20conclusions%20and%20stances.[/img]I listed all events in readable form but now need to put it in a mathematical context so I can deduce things. Sneak peak at the event list I am making. Might delay my conclusions tomorrow since it's getting late. But might get around posting it today.
So far I quickly glanced at the obvious data and concluded some inconsistencies and/or anomalies with you and with Beeboy123. As I result, I threw two posts out to get answers. That's all I have so far.
So far I quickly glanced at the obvious data and concluded some inconsistencies and/or anomalies with you and with Beeboy123. As I result, I threw two posts out to get answers. That's all I have so far.
jfc why did that come out like that
Oh I did img instead of quote
she is totally playing different imoB1rd wrote:
There's always the chance of mislynches, but at the end of the day, you have to press on against the most likely person. What you say is plausible, but frankly, you're still just giving yourself license to hang back and stay out of the line-of-fire while being everyone's friend with town reads. In my experience, being neutral and not trying to seek out scum, especially on D1, isn't townie behaviour.
@rEdo, you mentioned that Sakura is playing different from usual, could you elaborate on this?
it's not like it's too bad but she's acting paranoid tbh.
what is thatabraker wrote:
Sneak peak at the event list I am making
town
abraker
nulltown
b1rd
REdo
sakura
suspicious
hika
dawnsday
null
jess
beeboy
Here are my reads
Hika is suspicious if Dawnsday flips town, because I've seen her pull L-1 at the first opportunity multiple times as scum
I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
abraker
nulltown
b1rd
REdo
sakura
suspicious
hika
dawnsday
null
jess
beeboy
Here are my reads
Hika is suspicious if Dawnsday flips town, because I've seen her pull L-1 at the first opportunity multiple times as scum
I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
B1rd would disagreeFrostings wrote:
I like Sakura so far. I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
keep it in mind
Pending proof from previous mafia gamesHika wrote:
nah if I was scum I wouldn't have voted
keep it in mind
Eh i dunno, i've seen scum do a lot of work to look town, Prolly not a newbie, but I'll reserve my judgement for when i see what conclusions he gets from the data.Frostings wrote:
-Snip-
I put abraker as town because literally no scum cares enough about looking town to create a bunch of random flowcharts in their own time
You can wait until I bother getting on a computer. @ab
Granted i've never seen scum focus so much effort towards looking town on osu! #SiteMeta ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But so far all abraker has is IIoA until he does something with it
But so far all abraker has is IIoA until he does something with it
Also frostings I'm disappointed you're seriously using trivial reasons for someone being town.
He always makes flowcharts. Don't let your guard down against abraker, he's pretty deadly in that he has the same sort of robot-like methodology whether he's town or scum.
But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
But abraker, I would like it if you could redo your posts, I'm not sure what implications you're making, I'm not sure what you mean when you said 'I threw out two posts', nad you're chart is sort of complicated to read.
Oh wait I forgot. Why the shit would me and Dawn both be suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
Isn't that exactly why.Hika wrote:
Oh wait I forgot. Why the shit would me and Dawn both be suspicious.
It's not like I'm pushing his wagon hard. I'm still waiting input on everyone else.
Besides, I'm not the hammer vote so I'm not seeing why I'm suspicious.
Although probably for different reasons than frosty.
Speaking of reads and pushes, do you have any other scumreads?
Ok nvm i misread something.
Regardless i dont see it impossible for this to be a bus, but slightly unlikely.
And that's even if Dawn flips scum.
Dunno why you not being the hammer vote would excempt you from being scum if Dawn flips town, nor why you not pushing it hard would also excempt you when literally almost everyone and their mother is scumreading him.
Regardless i dont see it impossible for this to be a bus, but slightly unlikely.
And that's even if Dawn flips scum.
Dunno why you not being the hammer vote would excempt you from being scum if Dawn flips town, nor why you not pushing it hard would also excempt you when literally almost everyone and their mother is scumreading him.
it's just weird how frostings always, by default, reads me as scum.
And I'm not being funny, it's just weird.
And I'm not being funny, it's just weird.
Also, I'm going to bed, compiling my reads 2morro around 8pm EST
Oh I'm sorry I meant adding to that in terms of quick hammer but it doesn't apply here so I'm not sure why I even said that last part
But my post about frostings mean smth.
But my post about frostings mean smth.
Going to bed. Will be around 7pm EST
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him
B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read
Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.
Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.
rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.
I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
Frostings is a compulsive doo-hikey. Sporadically votes based on latest developments. Aka doesnt have an opinion. Playing mind tricks on him might suffice. Can't read him
B1rd is as objective as me. Can't read
Honestly I voted for Dawnsday just because of his evil like avatar. Needless, to say he dug himself into a hole and will need better justification to get out. At least he should explain why someone else is mafia dammit. Also waiting for his response of my showing evidence of his lies. I think he is the safest vote.
Sakura needs to be pushed to vote for somebody. Can't read.
rEdo, Beeboy123, and Hika you guys have been more active, so I will need to figure you guys out tommorow.
I would consider to unvote Dawnsday just to see who else may try to jump on him, but not declaring that beforehand may be a rather unwise decision on my part. And now that I do declare, that action would be pointless.
clear up my mind now
He acts in the RVS stage cause this end quickly by claiming mason.
so I read him to null-scum.
Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town
I never want to hammer Dawn since I don't hammer it after I awake since I feel uneasy about voting him
I just want to look at his defend of those scummy posts.
but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@everyone Why none of you guy think Dawn maybe is town?
I never said that He is town.Why this lead you think?abraker wrote:
-[Jess]-, why is Beeboy123 a townie?
He acts in the RVS stage cause this end quickly by claiming mason.
so I read him to null-scum.
Why townread but no sucmread
this not a game to find who is town
Call me Jess.I live in GMT+8 and have lot of RL workabraker wrote:
Need -[Jesse]-'s response
So far by the looks of it, -[Jesse]- might be mafia trying to be silent and out of trouble by voting Dawnsday. It may be a good way avert eyes on you especially if everybody is convinced that person you are voting for is mafia.
I never want to hammer Dawn since I don't hammer it after I awake since I feel uneasy about voting him
I just want to look at his defend of those scummy posts.
but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@everyone Why none of you guy think Dawn maybe is town?
Read:
town(almost):abraker,Frosty
nulltown:b1rd,redo
null:Sakura,Hika
town(almost):abraker,Frosty
nulltown:b1rd,redo
null:Sakura,Hika
Alright I slept 14 hours and now I'm having a bath. I will catch up sufficiently when I'm back, I did have a sneak peek and L-Number simply means that Lynch minus number abraker, I know this because I've had a quick dig around mafiascum forums to see what potential other roles are in this game. Me knowing terminology isn't that far fetched.
Anyway moving Jess to nulltown based off of these posts.
Anyway moving Jess to nulltown based off of these posts.
OH OKAY JESS MAKES ONE POST AND SHES NULL TOWN
AH OKAY
AH OKAY
Dawnsday there is literally 0 town incentive in not explaining why you think Hika is scum. (unless I you did it already and I missed it)
I've got work. I'll be back.
Now I know why draw is scum
vote:draw
vote:Dawnsday
Alright I'm back and yea I see the flaw here. However hear me out just a sec, Jess has been afk for quite some time, It'd be easier for her to come back, jump the wagon (As I WAS back down to L-2) and claim "yeah i see reasoning here" and just hop back to AFK again. I'm not claiming nulltown because of her read on me, being open to suggestion is quite easily just counter to beeboy's claim of "No opposition d1 lynch lul". I'm claiming her nulltown because of motive.
Yeah do what you will. I'm just going to claim Townie Investigative. There is 2 possible townie investigatives. Anyway if by some miracle I survive tonight I doubt maf will hit me, I'm basically doing their work for them rofl. If we have a townie protective buddy I'd say hit beeboy. He's being the voice of reason here.
Anyway yea cool
Yeah do what you will. I'm just going to claim Townie Investigative. There is 2 possible townie investigatives. Anyway if by some miracle I survive tonight I doubt maf will hit me, I'm basically doing their work for them rofl. If we have a townie protective buddy I'd say hit beeboy. He's being the voice of reason here.
Anyway yea cool