too hard can't play
remap
kds pls
remap
kds pls
Metaku wrote:
too hard can't play
remap
kds pls
18:59 Weriko: hi
18:59 Weriko: gimme irc roast mod ty
19:00 Plaudible: uhh
19:00 Plaudible: shore
19:00 Plaudible: quickie
19:00 Weriko: o
19:00 Weriko: k
19:00 *Weriko is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1200217 Sunless Rise - Awakening]
19:00 Weriko: der
19:00 Weriko: ty
19:01 Plaudible: o lawd
19:01 Plaudible: every time another star
19:02 Weriko: oo
19:02 Weriko: EEEVRYYYTIMEEE
19:02 Weriko: UUUNNNKKKNOOOOOOWN
19:03 Plaudible: 00:17:306 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - idk personally
19:04 Plaudible: star patterns are nicer if like
19:04 Plaudible: you purposefully use 5 notes
19:04 Plaudible: i'd do something with 4 instead here :v
19:04 Weriko: o
19:04 Weriko: well
19:04 Weriko: stars also work for repeating 4 patterns
19:05 Weriko: because you go to the first circle at 5
19:05 Plaudible: if you use it in this sense though
19:05 Plaudible: i'd space them out more or less
19:05 Plaudible: 50% overlaps arent the prettiest imo :v
19:05 Weriko: mehh
19:05 Plaudible: not gonna lie the first few seconds i thought this was by a bigger mapper
19:05 Weriko: eee
19:05 Weriko: i like them :C
19:05 Plaudible: you had some good ideas
19:06 Weriko: kek
19:06 Plaudible: for slow parts like this though
19:06 Plaudible: aesthetics gotta be on fleek
19:06 Plaudible: like at 00:19:431 (2,2) - for example
19:06 Plaudible: use similar rotation angles
19:06 Plaudible: 00:18:306 (1) -
19:06 Plaudible: these are all straight and shit
19:07 Plaudible: doing these straight can help improve looks overall :V
19:07 Weriko: okay
19:07 Plaudible: personally
19:07 Plaudible: i prefer the mild curves you did at 00:21:056 (4) -
19:07 Plaudible: it gives more character, so maybe do that in intro
19:07 Plaudible: maybe as you keep mapping
19:07 Plaudible: try to introduce angle structuring
19:07 Plaudible: use only certain rotations and try to stick to them
19:07 Plaudible: grid snap for a straight slider then work from there, shit like that
19:07 Plaudible: it makes your maps so much prettier
19:07 Weriko: meh
19:08 Weriko: i literally speedmapped like usual
19:08 Weriko: ill rework on aesthetics there then
19:09 Plaudible: hmm
19:09 Plaudible: 00:22:306 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
19:09 Plaudible: im not a fan of all the flow changes here
19:10 Plaudible: you build this like
19:10 Plaudible: back and forth sorta ish flow, with the cross over
19:10 Plaudible: but then suddenly change into circular
19:10 Plaudible: with not much change in mood
19:10 Plaudible: and i think you should make that consistent
19:11 Plaudible: if you're feeling lazy i'd just ctrl+g 00:23:681 (4,5) -
19:11 Plaudible: 00:26:056 (3,4,1) - you build a lot of sharp flow in the part before this, but then this goes super wide and feels awkward ;w;
19:12 Plaudible: also why switch to this flow at 00:26:306 (1,2,3,4) - , you use more back and forth stuff with the sliderend flowing more into the next one
19:12 Plaudible: be consistent with things like that, the playstyle will feel familiar and it'll play better that way
19:12 Plaudible: it may seem repetitive in editor but in gameplay its not since it goes by so fast, and that consistency shows your quality in mapping translating into structure+playability
19:13 Plaudible: 00:31:368 - ignoring sound
19:14 Plaudible: 00:32:556 (3) - personally not a fan of really tight blankets like this, if you use them use them throughout the map a lot so it's more visually appealing
19:14 Plaudible: i'd just make the stream wider and blanket it with more space tbh
19:14 Plaudible: hold up i'll let u catch up xd
19:14 Weriko: o
19:14 Weriko: nono im ok
19:15 Weriko: and i like that blanket xd
19:15 Plaudible: well use those aesthetic quirks like that more throughout the map :U
19:15 Plaudible: consistency = structure
19:15 Plaudible: structure = good
19:15 Weriko: hmmm
19:15 Weriko: not always
19:16 Plaudible: in some cases it's good for emphasis
19:16 Plaudible: but
19:16 Weriko: ive always tought
19:16 Weriko: that you only need to keep a general consistency
19:16 Weriko: but........
19:16 Plaudible: what do you mean? xd
19:16 Weriko: that i also like to use
19:16 Weriko: unique things on some spots
19:17 Weriko: and that blanket... well no one will feel it on play xd
19:17 Weriko: it will just look like another one
19:17 Weriko: w/e
19:17 Plaudible: well that's the thing with playing maps and stuff
19:17 Plaudible: yea, it may not be noticeable in one instance like this
19:17 Plaudible: but consistently using things like that
19:17 Plaudible: makes a map stand out
19:17 Plaudible: and since we as humans seek patterns it can make it more familiar, and make it something memorable about the map
19:18 Weriko: actually
19:18 Plaudible: which is why people value structure so highly in maps and stuff
19:18 Weriko: i dont feel that way
19:18 Weriko: maybe because im akward
19:18 Weriko: but i feel like... maps that dont have a really good consistency play better
19:18 Weriko: ......because you are actually reading
19:18 Weriko: and not just trying to remember how it was played
19:19 Weriko: w/eee
19:19 Plaudible: even hard to read maps these days though follow a structure
19:19 Plaudible: you're not losing that by structuring
19:20 Plaudible: and theres many ways to be creative and stuff while keeping that and mapping things that are hard without overdoing structure
19:20 Plaudible: burnt rice is a great example of that :v
19:20 Weriko: wat
19:21 *Plaudible is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1103732 Shawn Wasabi + YDG feat. YUNG GEMMY - Burnt Rice (Aiobahn & Jh-Anu Remix)]
19:21 Plaudible: int his map for example shit liek 00:34:815 (1,2,1,2,1) - is super hard to play/read
19:21 Plaudible: but it's something creative and he uses it to represent this sound and moment later in the song as well
19:21 Weriko: the point is that a blanket
19:21 Plaudible: structure doesnt mean sacrificing how you map necessarily :u it's just organizing it into something that fits a song
19:21 Weriko: like that wont change anything
19:22 Plaudible: it does though
19:22 Weriko: it doesnt
19:22 Plaudible: those little things add to a fuckton in a map weriko lol
19:22 Weriko: ......
19:23 Weriko: w/e
19:24 Plaudible: i really strongly suggest you pay attention to those little things in maps
19:24 Plaudible: sure harder maps like this it may not be as prominent but
19:24 Plaudible: it adds so much to it and really makes it a good map
19:24 Weriko: if little stuff makes a good map
19:24 Weriko: .....
19:25 Weriko: w/e
19:25 Plaudible: if ur gonna find a ranked map or somethin that you think isn't too structured hit me with it
19:25 Plaudible: i'll find something >:u
19:25 Plaudible: 00:39:556 (5) - i wouldnt sharply curve a stream like this randomly
19:25 *Weriko is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1031991 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Yomi yori Kikoyu, Koukoku no Tou to Honoo no Shoujo. [Kyouaku]]
19:25 Weriko: kek
19:25 Plaudible: usually if you do you need to give a good reason to
19:25 Weriko: literally fuk intensity
19:26 Weriko: its not random
19:26 Plaudible: well, at least i dont think the change is enough to justify that much of a direction change
19:27 Weriko: believeme
19:27 Weriko: its not a big direction change
19:27 Weriko: in the map context
19:28 Plaudible: u do got some neat concepts, 01:19:368 (11,12,2) - is cool
19:28 Weriko: o
19:28 Weriko: ty
19:28 Plaudible: 01:21:806 (1) - to 01:25:743 (16) - is fucking sex
19:29 Plaudible: your streams are gorgeous as always
19:30 Plaudible: imo you just need to work on your other aspects of mapping as always, you're like Gus xd
19:30 Plaudible: but its definitely getting better
19:30 Weriko: kek
19:31 Plaudible: :P
19:31 Plaudible: fr tho
19:32 Plaudible: 04:42:681 (2,3,4,5,6,2,3,4,5,6) - caught red handed xd
19:32 Weriko: SHHHHHHHHHHHHH
19:34 Plaudible: but in some senses you did structure some things nicely
19:34 Plaudible: like bringing back the star patterns and things lik that
19:34 Plaudible: so gj
19:34 Plaudible: just try structuring in other senses too cause it's muoy importante
19:34 Plaudible: keep it up and ur gonna rank a stream map soon :v
19:34 Weriko: kek
19:34 Weriko: there are some spots that i can def agree are structure like meh
19:35 Weriko: muoy importante kek
19:36 Weriko: o
19:51 Plaudible: oh
19:51 Plaudible: is it ok if i drop in forums for kudos
19:51 Plaudible: for numero #100 :v
19:51 Weriko: o
19:51 Weriko: how to ez kds xd
19:51 Plaudible: pff
2017-03-02 02:37 Weriko: modea my mapa extremo :c
2017-03-02 02:38 iYiyo: hola xd
2017-03-02 02:38 Weriko: y hola xd
2017-03-02 02:39 iYiyo: eeh no te conozco xd así que podrías preguntarlo mejor
2017-03-02 02:40 Weriko: eee
2017-03-02 02:40 Weriko: la gente generalmente me pide que sea directo xd
2017-03-02 02:40 Weriko: ya que se podrian malinterpretar intenciones :c
2017-03-02 02:41 iYiyo: mmm lo mejor sería empezar una conversación de manera normal
2017-03-02 02:42 iYiyo: es tu mapa de 9*
2017-03-02 02:42 Weriko: si ;-;
2017-03-02 02:42 Weriko: perdon ;-;
2017-03-02 02:43 iYiyo: Me da pereza modear mapas tan dificiles xd
2017-03-02 02:43 Weriko: ayyy :ccccc
2017-03-02 02:43 iYiyo: además, no es muy difícil intentar rankear un 9* de primer mapa?
2017-03-02 02:44 Weriko: si
2017-03-02 02:44 Weriko: pero rankear uno de 6* o menos seria igual de dificil para mi
2017-03-02 02:44 Weriko: asi que.... eee
2017-03-02 02:44 iYiyo: mmm
2017-03-02 02:44 iYiyo: rankear algo de 7 es dificil
2017-03-02 02:44 iYiyo: de 8 ya es muy dificil
2017-03-02 02:45 iYiyo: de 9 creo que no he visto para serte sincero xd
2017-03-02 02:45 Weriko: porfavor ;-;
2017-03-02 02:45 Weriko: se puede intentar
2017-03-02 02:50 iYiyo: así a la rápida puedo ver que algunos streams no se ven bien estructurados como el rseto
2017-03-02 02:50 iYiyo: 01:57:806 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2017-03-02 02:50 iYiyo: por ejemplo ese
2017-03-02 02:50 iYiyo: 02:08:306 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-03-02 02:50 iYiyo: 02:08:556 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
2017-03-02 02:51 Weriko: o
2017-03-02 02:51 Weriko: estructurados en que sentido
2017-03-02 02:52 iYiyo: darles una forma más elaborada, como que hiciste un slider un poco curvo y los hiciste stream
2017-03-02 02:52 iYiyo: en general el resto de streams igual están buenos
2017-03-02 02:52 iYiyo: mencioné algunos que vi de pasada nomás
2017-03-02 02:53 Weriko: ok
2017-03-02 02:53 iYiyo: 04:29:181 -
2017-03-02 02:53 iYiyo: podrías hacer este beat clickable
2017-03-02 02:53 iYiyo: y aprovechas de mapear 04:29:306 -
2017-03-02 02:53 iYiyo: no tiene sentido que lo dejes vació la verdad
2017-03-02 02:53 iYiyo: y el slider tan largo interrumpe los largos streams que venías haciendo
2017-03-02 02:54 iYiyo: 04:33:806 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - please esto es copia de lo anterior xd
2017-03-02 02:55 Weriko: oooo
2017-03-02 02:55 Weriko: shhh
2017-03-02 02:56 iYiyo: 05:34:931 (2,3,4) - esto da más para stream que 05:34:306 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - la verdad
2017-03-02 02:56 Weriko: esta pensado asi
2017-03-02 02:56 Weriko: siento que en
2017-03-02 02:56 Weriko: 05:34:931 (2,3,4) - el sonido que va a 1/2 es algo mas fuerte
2017-03-02 02:56 iYiyo: 05:43:056 (1) - este slider debería empezar 05:43:181 - acá imo
2017-03-02 02:56 Weriko: y creo que queda mejor si le pongo enfasis
2017-03-02 02:57 iYiyo: de hecho si, no es necesario stream en esa parte
2017-03-02 02:57 iYiyo: pero tampoco en la anterior
2017-03-02 02:57 iYiyo: 05:35:243 - acá cabe para un triple igual
2017-03-02 02:58 iYiyo: 05:43:056 - acá podrías poner una nota y que luego venga el slider ese
2017-03-02 02:58 iYiyo: xd
2017-03-02 02:59 Weriko: no quedaria raro?
2017-03-02 02:59 iYiyo: 04:42:681 (2,3,4,5,6,2,3,4,5,6) - este tipo de stream te quedó bueno
2017-03-02 02:59 iYiyo: Encuentro que queda raro así como está ahora
2017-03-02 02:59 iYiyo: porque te estás comiendo 05:43:181 - este beat
2017-03-02 02:59 iYiyo: que es con el que verdaderamente termina la canción
2017-03-02 03:00 Weriko: o
2017-03-02 03:00 Weriko: tal vez
2017-03-02 03:00 iYiyo: y yo que tú le doy un poquito más de SV al último slider
2017-03-02 03:00 iYiyo: quizás 0.3, y aprovechas de darle una mejor forma
2017-03-02 03:00 iYiyo: además que el cambio es muy bruzco igual
2017-03-02 03:00 Weriko: hehe
2017-03-02 03:01 iYiyo: más que nada para aprovechar de hacer algo de slider art
2017-03-02 03:01 iYiyo: así como está se ve muy simple xd
2017-03-02 03:01 Weriko: ok
2017-03-02 03:01 Weriko: soy pesimo para el sliderart por cierto xd
2017-03-02 03:02 iYiyo: eso sería viendo a la rápida, quizás podrías revisar a ver si te comiste algún triple como el que te mencioné antes
2017-03-02 03:02 iYiyo: pero no se ve mal
2017-03-02 03:02 iYiyo: un poco más de trabajo en lo estético y podría pasar
2017-03-02 03:02 iYiyo: serías el primero en hacer de su primer mapa ranked uno de 9* xd
2017-03-02 03:02 iYiyo: suerte
2017-03-02 03:03 Weriko: gracias!
2017-03-02 03:04 iYiyo: y para la próxima empieza una conversación saludando normal xD
2017-03-02 03:05 Weriko: ayy ok xD
2017-03-02 03:07 Weriko: puedes postear si quieres xd
2017-03-02 03:07 iYiyo: si crees que te sirvió de algo xd
2017-03-02 03:08 Weriko: e
2017-03-02 03:08 Weriko: si xd
2017-03-02 03:09 iYiyo: bueno xd
2017-03-02 03:09 Weriko: :p
Canadian Baka wrote:
Hello there!
What we fixed IRC:
-some flow in jumps
-rhythm inconsistencies~ Bubbled ~
good luck!
oh no,Canadian Baka wrote:
Hello again!
sorry, I looked through the map and found some serious issues, here are a few reasons:
inconsistency in flow
and
inconsistency in rhythm~ Popped ~