bor wrote:

u said m4m, I link my map here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/574929

also good luck on BN test \o/ You too dude

General

1. a couple things come up as hitsound delays -> drum-whistle3.wav, soft-hitclap2.wav, soft-hitwhistle.wav. The most important hitsound to fix would be soft-hitclap2.wav because it has about 5ms of delay before it does its effect. drum-hitwhistle doesn't matter because of the nature of the hitsound. and soft-hitwhistle was an invalid result. I'll take a quick look at these and edit this after
2. You have a story board thing in the folder, but I see no sb in editor. also if you have sb enable widescreen support because fuck those black lines on the side of screen when there is sb, other wise don't worry about it but git that file outta hereee There's no SB file for me, you probably made one by accident

Scorched

1. 00:06:866 - this section has the introduction of new sounds so technically its more intense than the previous. because of this its kind of strange making rhythm "less dense" by making sounds land on slider ends more often when those sounds were previously mapped to circles(clickable) At the same time though, the sounds in the beginning are more "distinct" than in the later section where I have to follow more things at onces. I think I'll add a few more sliders in the beginning tho to abide to the suggestion tho, since I don't mind doing that
2. 00:11:366 (1,1,1,1) - couple of things, firstly you don't need to NC all of these since there is a logical progression to them and the SV changes aren't drastic. Another thing would be the distances they are at aren't decreasing enough to match the sv changes too well. I would try to end up decreasing them more so the SV is more noticable. I feel like it's fine in both aspects, since I do that to literally every SV in the song xd About the distance - yeah I could decrease the sv further and then make it more distinct, so I made the SV descend a little faster and adjust.[/color]
3. 00:11:928 - this is where the decreased pitch actually starts with the "talk talk talk" lyric so its misleading that the sv changes start before this; also this is the highest pitch for synth. b
4. 00:13:616 (3,4) - when you start using sliders. the 1/2 gaps you make with 2,3 are a bit less than the real distance because of slider leniency, so these 1/1 gaps end up not being very effective like when there are circles in the less intense part prior to this. also with stuff like 00:15:866 (1,2,3,4) - , you should really stick to a single 1/1 gap concept because the cursor pace becomes pretty erradic and rhythm gaps because less effective for the player. I didn't realize this mistake, I adjust 3,4 to be similar to the latter and the same for similar sections xd
5. 00:15:116 (4,5) - when you are emphasizing synthesized sounds and drums its kind of weird to also map the vocals. this also kind of hurts your 1/1 gaps I don't really mind following both here honestly, I'm open to suggestions tho, since I donno how I would change it without leaving out vocals completely lol :p
6. also I know hightec is cancer but ask him to stack mod this some stacks are a bit off plus its a funny meme. eks dee, hightec is cute
7. 00:18:491 (1) - technically the reason this has the sv change makes me think you should also make 00:18:678 - clickable. Would force me to make it a kickslider which I don't want (since making it extended plays bad when you do SV's like this
8. 00:18:866 (1,2) - indicates something like 00:21:116 (1,1) - should be stacked as well. ppretty sure I did this (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7779010 )
9. 00:21:866 (1,2) - where did the 1/1 gap go. the focus switch on to vocals can make sense, but you need a better transition into it. though for 00:21:866 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - I would just suggest not making this vocal centric because nothing has been before this and there is synth to map to. it would also make something like 00:23:366 (1,2,1,2,1) - much more impactful imo. I did the opposite and made it completely vocal centric by changing the entire section's patterning
10. 00:22:616 - you also don't incorporate spacing per pitch/volume emphasis before this enough for me to think you should keep it. completely fixed this with what I did earlier
11. 00:30:303 (2,1) - the problem I have with this is that it breaks your rhythm and movement idea you set up with 00:27:116 (1,1,1) - . Also 00:32:366 (1,2,1) - you ignore the non melodic sound here as well so :eyes: Did some ctrl+G's to make the back n' forth movement more obvious (it nerfed the diff a little hihi)
12. 00:33:678 - according to this section, every synth sound like this has been clickable. I don't see a reason enough to change that here.
13. 00:33:866 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this is kind of the same thing as I said before, the sv won't be as noticable if you don't make the spacing more drastic. It's pretty drastic here when you play it tbh, it's the biggest peak spacing wise in the song lol xd
14. 00:50:647 (2,3) - I know you do this a lot so just going to say it once, I think its bad. reason being is I don't think the anti emphasis works on phrases like this where rhythm is a bit more be "open" (has a lot of pauses between sounds) and you make some really soft sounds way way way more intense (refer to 00:45:866 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - ) though I'm not against anti empahsis I just think its out of place here. Yeah it's all a subjective manner - I like this odd change in flow, so I don't really want to change it to something "normal", since this along with the insane is quite gimmicky already xd
15. 01:09:116 (1,2) - this is some pretty big jump to a small 1/4 thing Yeah I'll probably end up reworking this a bit, I'll figure something out
16. 01:35:366 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this could very much be a pitch pattern; the very first note should exist in this pattern because its not the same sound. changed the pattern of the first slider, and made the NC'ing different (7,1,2,3,4,5 instead)
17. 01:36:491 (1,1) - this is good usage of making the play feel the sv. thanks xd
    
    most of what I said is repeatable throughout so just saying the same thing twice is normally not helpful. Overall there are some visual polishing things you should do (even if they are a bit small) because the map looks a little bit messy and I'm anal about dumb stuff like this. very small this like 01:24:116 (1,2) - these aren't the exact same slider and 01:14:366 (1,1) - not being perfectly parallel is d.

Insane

1. just going to say something in general because ya know. Its pretty similar to the highest diff on w/e. though every now and then you implement sv changes well Yeah it has some similarities, but some of the sections are vastly different, so I donno what to take from this xd

Ren

1. 00:21:866 - you should probably insert a break here and then drag the second half to be green starting here 00:24:116 - (like this https://bor.s-ul.eu/xDoPyEuK)
2. 00:25:803 (3,4,5) - 01:13:803 (3,4,5) - 00:31:803 (3,4,5) - 01:19:803 (3,4,5) - this isn't mapped to the synth, sounds like its vocals to me. 00:26:366 (1,2) - this reinforces my opinion, but then 00:28:616 (3) - is not vocals? its very difficult to tell what you are trying to follow here, you should make it more clear.
   also hi cutie \o/

Normal

1. 00:02:366 (3,4,5) - if you are going to make these 1/2 bridged, you should also have a note in places like 00:01:428 - 00:04:428 - good point
2. 00:08:366 (4,5,6) - 00:11:366 (4,5,6) - skipping a beat. though if you want to map the beat to the slider bounce you should up tickrate to 2 and make the bounce a bit more noticable.
3. 00:36:866 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - thing here is rhythm variance for same parts example is, you make a gap here 00:37:991 (1,2) - then map same thing 00:39:491 (4) - here. it flips for 00:37:616 (2) - and 00:39:116 (3) - as well. THEN 00:45:116 (3,4) - THIS U FUK reverted all rhythm
4. 00:45:866 (1) - I don't think you shoud make this spinner, I think you should map this out. I disagree, since I did the same on the easy - the insane and extra have ~the same amount of breaks, so I wanna do the same for easy/normal
5. 00:48:866 - this kiai was executed a bit better than one I pointed out. agreed, both should be equally good nao :^)
6. 00:57:866 - it would make more sense if you mapped this until 01:00:866 - and ended the kiai 01:00:866 - and started break at end of kiai. dragged break out to the timestamp you mentioned, but didn't remove spinner due to the break thing I talked about :p
7. 01:06:491 (1) - lol hi <3
8. 01:24:866 (3) - it doens't make sense why you would not map the 3/4 rhythm on 01:26:366 - 01:27:866 - and 01:32:366 - since its the same instrument playing the rhythm I think I ate needles when I did this, fixed all sliders that allow for 3/4
9. 01:33:866 (1) - this very much doesn't fit, at least the last one had some other sound over it that made sense with it. would be inconsistent to remove this one when I didn't remove the other - I also feel like it's fine :p

Easy

1. 00:27:866 (1,2,3,4) - I know you want to avoid having a super boring map, but these skip sounds you didn't skip before :^) Donno what else I would do here lel
2. 01:15:866 (1,2,3,4) - you shouldn't skip beats here either according to your previous nc . same lol
3. 01:25:991 (1) - you don't need to nc this, though I see why, you did, though you should probably nc 01:29:553 (3) - for the same reason
4. 01:37:991 (1) - this doesn't ned nc removed both

Deppyforce wrote:

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disable widescreen support

sc
looks cool
00:10:616 (3) - stack b
00:21:116 (1) - listen with slower playback and z sound ends on 1/4, i'd add circle instead of extend slider tho cuz looks cooler It's cuz the hitsound is pretty long i think (SFX op), and I also feel like doing 1/8 instead of single is kewler <3
00:48:866 (1) - the slider path at down-right kinda blocked the whole circle lomas try this instead maybe http://puu.sh/vdj9e/2d4f5d05b0.jpg did something else, same effect :3
01:36:491 (1) - nazi stack mom
01:54:866 - wanna add note here lol nah, I like that it's left out tbh xddd There used to be a 1/8 note, but it's eh
01:57:531 (2,1) - hesus pls do this instead http://puu.sh/vdjhO/a63ce70fcc.jpg but it's supposed to be uglyyyy
overall i think there are too many ignored sound in the song for a 'top diff which is supposed to be a extra but sr is too low for some reason' but ok i guess aaa CS5 is limiting aaa xd

in
00:11:366 (1,1,1,1,1) - try space the slider ends more evenly here aesthetics triggers me cool I'm not retarded I swear
00:34:991 (1,2) - can u make 4 of these 1/4 clickable I like the SV thing more xd
00:48:866 (1,1,1) - can u space this a bit differently from other notes before (dont stack it can cause confusion to lower players) try this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7767821 I don't think it's a problem, considering how hard the other overlaps in the kiai are already.
01:54:866 - dont make this a break so its constant with other diffs It's actually mistake that the others don't have one, so I made a break in all diffs.

okateck
u forgot to copy hitsounds loma
00:25:803 (3,4,5,1) - instrument kinda lacks emphasis cuz u map it to make it loks like its merged to a sam pattern with 00:25:803 (3) - (pls space it bigger)
00:31:803 (3,4,5,1) - sam
sam with other parts on 2nd half of song

Yohanes wrote:

Hello! sorry for the delay No worries <3

Easy
- 00:00:866 (1,2,3,1,2) - I don't think this kind of rhythm is optimal for this section. I know that it's easy diff and you want to make it simple but you skip the beat that is equally as strong as the beat that you map. I would recommend it into something like this. It is easier to follow, more consistent, and cover all the necessary beats http://puu.sh/vdjUx/40ee232683.jpg Thing is tho, that on 00:10:428 - there's a beat that imo is a little stronger than the white tick just before, so if I did pure long sliders, the actual strong note on the reverse would be obsolete
- 00:14:366 (3,4) - I'm not sure that 2 circle is the best rhythm at sections like this. As you may have notice, there're very loud drum at the 1/2s. I personally find that "stepping over" those 1/2 with 2 circle on the white tick will give player some sort of impression like "the heck that I just click? isn't the drum is in the wrong place?" or something like that. This can be easily avoided by changing 00:14:366 (3,4) - into a slider. Idk, maybe that's just me but I think I'll mention it here 2 circles are easier than doing pure sliders, since a guideline suggests that pure sliders can confuse new players due to actually following the sliders.
- 01:06:491 (1) - you better of delete this note. It feels out of place to be honest. But if you want to keep it, you have to map at least from 01:04:991 - to give player better context of what you're trying to follow mapped more stuff on this and normal
- 01:37:991 (1,2) - switch this rhythm, you have to make the downbeat clickable as it kind of a "reset point" to the rhythm I'm confused, since the strong point is on the red tick, not the white :thinking:
- 01:40:991 (3,4) - same here. Do cange them if you change the first one that I mentioned before. try http://puu.sh/vdkeD/09899a66dd.jpg same
- 01:43:991 (3,4) - and so on, you can find them yourself xd
- 01:57:288 (1,2,3) - This timing is very very tricky for player, even for the higher ranked player this could be very unexpected. I highly suggest you to left this section unmapped, and end the map on 01:54:491 - the slider shapes should honestly be enough to determine this imo xd

Normal
- 00:01:428 - & 00:04:428 - you can add circle here if you want to make it more intuitive rhythmically yup
- 00:08:366 (4,5,6,7) - & 00:11:366 (4,5,6,7) - try this rhythm? it captures the music better imo http://puu.sh/vdktI/878826e456.jpg If I did that, it would be just as intense as the part after in the map (refer to stuff like 00:14:366 (4,5,6) - ), while the song changing quite a bit. because of that, I have to undermap a bit here.
- 00:24:866 (1,2) - you can make things looking more interesting by making this a triangle instead http://puu.sh/vdkyF/a0269630af.jpg I prefer the overlap honestly, since I do it consistently
- 00:30:116 (6,7) - & 01:18:116 (6,7) - change to 3/4 reverse slider instead. Your second slider doesn't necessarily give emphasis on anything They both follow something else (I do the same on insane/extra)
- 01:29:553 (1,2) - I'm not really sure why, but this feels much better if you change it into 1/2 reverse. I prefer emphasis on the white tick, while I do understand what you mean here
- 01:57:288 (1,2,3,1,2) - your rhythm here are much more intuitive compared to your Easy diff agreed, but it'd still be odd to leave the easy diff unmapped there xd
Pattern could be made cleaner & more interesting, but other than that its fine Hopefully it has been done from the other mods as well (;

Ren
- 01:28:991 (3,4,1,2) - This really caught me by surprise. Probably make them like this to make it more consistent with other pattern / rhythm http://puu.sh/vdkVW/b02d78ab94.jpg
Solid diff otherwise, I like it! But the diff spread from Normal to hard worries me as Hard have quite a lot of triplets

Insane
- 00:15:866 (1) - This notes placed too far from the previous object imo http://puu.sh/vdmGv/a47c0824a7.jpg didn't even realize I could do that, fixed
- 00:24:491 (1) - ctrl+g plays better imo wouldn't work well with 2,3
- 00:30:116 (1,2,3,4) - & 01:18:116 (1,2,3,4) - You could've follow the 3/4 melodies instead, to make this section stand out more http://puu.sh/vdmjs/2b69ea7464.jpg not what I want to follow, the high pitched stuff is very distinct
- 00:41:366 (1) -, 00:44:366 (1) -, 00:50:366 (1) -, and so on. You can put reverse on those slider instead to avoid polarity problem would be kinda meh to reverse everything - I only do reverse on the first one at 00:36:866 (1) - , since it introduces the 3/4 rhythms
- 00:45:678 (4,5,1,2) - arrange them like this to make the flow better perhaps http://puu.sh/vdmoD/7624e01cd0.jpg good idea, fixed :3
- 00:48:397 - perfect place to place triplet http://puu.sh/vdmru/f389957f98.jpg
- 00:54:303 (2,3) - same, you can put triplet here wouldn't make the melody distinct enough imo
actually, the same thing keeps repeating hmm o

Scorched
- 00:12:866 (1,2,3,4) - and any other similar place Would be better if you space the 1/1 further away Changed this from a different mod :3
- 00:30:116 (1,2,1,2) - To be honest I don't really like this because you cover the strong sound with the 2nd slider's tail Like in the insane/normal, the melody is super distinct here, which is why it's emphasized like this
- 00:48:116 (4) - shorten the reverse and add circle on the red tick? This will give bouncy movement on this section http://puu.sh/vdoaH/0a82c050cf.jpg would be pretty deceiving like that, since 2 reverses with the same visual length, but less reverses is iffy to get by imo
- 00:49:897 - add circle here to make it consistent with 00:50:272 (2) - ? You can put the ricle on 00:49:991 (1) - head btw fixed :3

Aaaa, this song is stuck on my brain noww. I can't get it outttt! Yeah it's pretty dank, shawn makes some nice stuff
Hope this helps a bit, Good luck! Thanks

Lami wrote:

hi, I came here from m4m.

[General]

You can consider to add some tags. For example, (Genres: Electronic, Music, Dance), GDer's nickname, etc. did something
Make sure end point on your own diff. ok
01:48:866 - well, i don't think this section is enough to have high atmosphere for kiai. this section is so clam.

[Easy]

01:25:991 (1) - remove nc did <3

[Ren's Hard]

01:43:803 (5,6) - why suddenly jump here?

[Insane]

00:22:991 (1,1) - weird overlap imo. changed slightly
00:51:303 (2,3) - they aren't consistent straight flow or placement changed (1) so it makes a triangle
01:24:866 (1,2) - ^ This one is fine imo
00:54:491 (3,1) - this anti-jump is too small, if it consider kiai time. moved entirely
music don't enough weak, also this DS is so smaller than anti-jump in non-kiai
00:57:866 (1,2,1,2) - you should be make sure your NC policy, with highest diff. if you don't have good reason for that. changed NC'ing on top diff, nice catch buddy!
01:08:741 (2) - almost note just expressed simple circle, but this note only slider with mute tail.
i don't think this beat is enough long beat for expressing slider with mute.
01:21:116 (1,1) - this high DS really make feel difference with 00:33:116 (3,1) - hmm, I don't think it's a problem here
01:54:678 - make sure this break with other diffs. added break on all other diffs

[Scorched]

00:10:241 (2,3) - nazi, but it's noticable un-stack. fixed
00:12:678 - don't you think express this beat? this is pretty different beat with others. I don't mind it - I feel like i'd have to do descending slider tap spacing instead if I did that xd
00:21:116 (1) - highly would be better, if use repeat slider. since this sound didnt finish at 00:21:162 - fixed with a different mod as well
00:21:866 (1,2) - Music just became to bulid down here.(i think it's pretty weakness part). tho, sv x1.25 is inappropriate, imo. agreed, made SV lower on them
also, for reference, this section's normal sv is x1.0. it make contrast with x1.25, too. yup
00:48:678 - this beat should be mapped, since already mapped detaily drum at 00:47:741 (3,4) - . added two kicksliders
01:05:741 (2,3) - can be consider to avoid overlap, since seems like that there is no special reason. I prefer the sudden stop in this section 'cause it shows that the section after is pretty heavy on other stuff later

gl You too!

-Vanilla wrote:

yo m4m (I'm suck at normal and easy mods so I'll try my best on hard- extra to catch more

General : Even though this is allowed, the map would look more dynamic with more than 2 combo colors, or perhaps combo colors seperating the kiai to normal playtime, just a personal preference. I talked with Yahuri about this earlier, I'm probably gonna colorhax stuff before I ask BN's, happy to hear that other people feel the same way about it

Scorched:
00:07:616 (3,4) - compared to 00:08:553 (2,3) - , these buzz sliders have a noticable visual difference on the way they're stacked (at least when i played i noticed it) and it turns out their distance is different, also its different with 00:10:241 (2,3,4), (that last one has a major difference. changed stuff slightly

00:10:241 (2,3,4) - careful with these stacks I think like 4 people mentioned that specific stack LOL

00:38:366 (1,2,3) - personally this played fine but I believe the spacing should be higher from 2 to 3. If this is a kiai section the intensity should be a bit higher than the rest of the map I'm mixed, 'cause the song doesn't really portray the same vibe, while at the same time, the song doesn't really change intensity that much (I just add kiai's since it fits the fact that it's a chorus)

00:39:116 (1,2,3) - your jumps here are also much less intense than even the jumps in the beginning of the map 00:14:366 (1) -

00:48:491 (1,1,2,3) - idk why i cant hit the 2 on time at all, I'm expecting it to land on the white tick but clearly the music says otherwise, my modification to it would to NC all of these, like you have it in the insane diff. agreed

01:26:366 (1,2,3) - careful stacking things like this, where the 1-2 is separated by 1/4, and the 2-3 is separated by 1/2. It plays fine and reads fine to me but the way you stacked objects in the rest of the map justifies what you did here, so this is just an option It's intentional to make it reading based (It's the same concept as when I do anti-jumps on 00:44:647 (2,3) - for example

also the last kiais of the map are also super not intense, this is only 5* but without ur slider jumps its only 4.8* so perhaps tune the kiais up so they make the map 4.9* at least because it feels odd to play one intensity the entire map I'll consider it :3

Insane:
00:05:366 (1) - this is the only 1/2 slider that has a sharp angle to it instead of curved in the entire opening part soft curve nao :3

00:48:866 (1,1,1) - in your extra diff, these aren't all NC'ed. This was easier to read as a different rhythm this time around compared to your extra diff, so perhaps NC the extra jumps? I changed stuff on the scorched

01:36:304 (2,1) - lower the spacing in between these two like you have it on this SV change : 00:22:991 (1,1) - Just so it might read better. NC should be enough xd

01:47:647 (2,3,4) - some of your blankets are visually inconsistent, compared to 01:45:866 (1,2) - . There are a few more of these inconsistencies in the map I'll try to find them, fixed this one.

01:59:239 (1,2) - change the way this stacks because the rhythm is pretty unclear going into this as 01:58:751 (4,1) - these are stacked the same but only 1/2 apart it's intentional though, and when you can play insanes and get to this part, you probably did the overlap stuff pretty well too earlier :3
Ren's Hard:
00:09:116 (3,4) - these would look and sound better if they were just circles, or if you made them into 1/2 sliders

01:08:178 (3,2) - stacked kinda off

01:43:616 (3,4,5,6) - your entire kiai consists of consistent spacing, so move the triplet to 137,102 ?

I can't really say much about this diff, it's really clean and plays nice so gj