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bmin11

Wojjan wrote:

Why? That's the setup.
but that's only for 9 people. I just wanted to know what would the setup be if we have more then 9
rust45
The smaller the better for newbie. And I don't really want to see a lot of inactives.
Sleep Powder
This should be enough people.
Wojjan
Why do you keep talking about newbies? There's no newbies playing.
bmin11

Wojjan wrote:

Why do you keep talking about newbies? There's no newbies playing.
;ㅅ;
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Nine it is.

Edit: Confirming who gets the last spot, and then roles will be sent out.
Sleep Powder

Wojjan wrote:

Why do you keep talking about newbies? There's no newbies playing.
I've only played once...and I was the first to get lynched D:
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
If I can't get ahold of my other player before this time tomorrow, TBTE (or whatever) will be in instead, and I'll send roles out.
Mashley

animask wrote:

Wojjan wrote:

Why do you keep talking about newbies? There's no newbies playing.
I've only played once...and I was the first to get lynched D:
Let's lynch animask first again
TBTE

LadySuburu wrote:

If I can't get ahold of my other player before this time tomorrow, TBTE (or whatever) will be in instead, and I'll send roles out.

Sweet.
Ph0X
I'll play.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Ph0X wrote:

I'll play.
There you are. Getting roles randomized and sent out.
bmin11
I'll play!
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

bmin11 wrote:

I'll play!
You're already in, silly.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
All role PMs have been sent out, waiting for confirmations.
Ph0X
Vote: FOS: Quaraezha for having a weird name.
DeathxShinigami
Ph0x!

Anyways...
bmin11
Oh god that avatar tripped me over
rust45
Um, game hasn't started yet?
Ph0X

rust45 wrote:

Um, game hasn't started yet?
The game don't start 'til I walk in~
Lybydose
hi strager
iMuffin
i liked that
Quaraezha
Just got home to confirm role and lol already FOS?
NoHitter
/confirm in thread.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
All confirmed.

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Friday at this time.
Mashley
MORNIN' EVERYONE :D
DeathxShinigami
Yo, it's my birthday today so don't expect me to be -that active- for the next 24 hours...

I'll make it up tomorrow~
Ph0X

Mashley wrote:

MORNIN' EVERYONE :D
Ohayou~
Sleep Powder
Lets have a party~! :D
bmin11
Yay~ so what do we do?
Sleep Powder
First, are there any Cops or Doctors here?
bmin11
Wait, wouldn't that be a benefit for the mafia? I think they should just lurk for now :?
DeathxShinigami
I have a feeling bmin's newbie like attitude might just hide his real intentions...
Mashley
Acting like a newbie in newbie mafia, we're onto something ;)
Wojjan
SPOILER
Oh my god a game with Ph0x. Stalking with perverse interest.
bmin11
I still think it's pointless claiming to be a cop or a doc right now (and yes, this is my first mafia game)
Sleep Powder

bmin11 wrote:

Wait, wouldn't that be a benefit for the mafia? I think they should just lurk for now :?
You saying you're not in the mafia or that I'm not in the mafia?

Don't reveal yourself so easily lol
bmin11
I disagree to your strategy, but not necessarily FoSing you. I'm just pointing out this could end up just benefiting the mafia side
Mashley
Yes, clearly there's no reason for a cop/doc to claim now, they haven't even done anything yet :\
Ph0X

Mashley wrote:

Yes, clearly there's no reason for a cop/doc to claim now, they haven't even done anything yet :\
Yuppers.

animask, FOS on you. Rolefishing right off the bat is pretty scummy.

I'll leave it up to the reader to guess the several scenarios in which animask would rolefish.

Either way, that was a stupid move, animask.
Sleep Powder
I'm the actual newbie here. Whats FoS?
bmin11

LadySuburu wrote:

FoS / HoS.

Finger of Suspicion: I think you're kinda scummy.

Hand of Suspicion: I'm just about to vote you.
Not a nice thing to be pointed at
DeathxShinigami
Just to weigh in on this, you aren't really defending yourself well bmin and while you seem to want to contribute in on this you end keep saying it's your first game and just end it like that while looking suspicious.

I have my FoS on you now...
bmin11
My intentions were...
1. There's nothing to gain from figureing out cop/doc on the first day. Should have mentioned they have done nothing as well, but Mashley pointed out for me.
2. Mafia would now know who's cop/doc and IF there is a roleblocker, they'll just end up becoming nothing but a towny (Pieguy's case was exactly like this). If there aren't any roleblocker, well I think you guys can figure out the outcomes anyway.


and telling that I'm a newbie was because of your comment

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I have a feeling bmin's newbie like attitude might just hide his real intentions...
That sounded like if you were FoSing me and my answer was "I am a noob if I looked like a noob. If this gave you a bad impression, please understand my lack of experience and don't put me on the dead list because of it". I guess I might have overreacted on that and it did make me look bad ;_;

Will you forgive me DxS...?
Sleep Powder
I love messing with you guys~
DeathxShinigami

animask wrote:

I love messing with you guys~
What just so I can make you squirm as well mafia scum?
Ph0X

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Just to weigh in on this, you aren't really defending yourself well bmin
Defense against what? I didn't see him being attacked, and I didn't see him being defensive.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

and while you seem to want to contribute in on this you end keep saying it's your first game and just end it like that while looking suspicious.
He ended a post like this only once. He doesn't "keep saying it's [his] first game".

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I have my FoS on you now...
And mine on you, in addition to animask.
DeathxShinigami
So that's how it shall be then~

Day 1 almost always has a lynch with no scummy like evidence however. If anything Ph0x you just saw my bluff and I congratulate you. But you are making the wrong assumption to have FoS on me...but we'll just wait and see...
Ph0X

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Day 1 almost always has a lynch with no scummy like evidence however.
I'm not sure what you mean. Can you explain this?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

If anything Ph0x you just saw my bluff and I congratulate you. But you are making the wrong assumption to have FoS on me...but we'll just wait and see...
From what I saw, your "bluff" was adding confusion and misinformation to the conversation. That's a scummy thing to do, hence my FoS.
DeathxShinigami
rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched. Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.

With nothing for me to lead on at the end of the first day out of three. I guess we will have to wait and see what other players do in the next hours.
NoHitter
First of, since RVS is basically harmful now as you can only vote once, let's start of with RQS instead.

Questions:

1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)

My Answers
1) I prefer roles with interactions with other players outside of the thread - don't care about the faction. Masons, scum, etc.
2) Lurking is a null tell. Mods should replace them. Unless they say that they would prefer to lurk on purpose, and give nothing helpful to town. Doing that is anti-town, and thus a FoS from me.
3) I would use my gut to point to the right direction, and analysis to prove it, but sometimes I can't avoid using more of gut than analysis.
4) No. Meta may be helpful for players with consistent play-styles, but people can change play-styles anytime, therefore I think meta is unreliable.

Now about what has happened so far:
FoS: animask for role-fishing this early in the game. You do not want the cop/doctor to out themselves the first day. Only scum would want power roles (cop/doctor) to out themselves, so they can target them for a kill. Oh and for the "I love messing with you guys" quote.

Minor FoS: DxS too. First of all you tunneled bmin with no evidence at all. Then you go around claiming that you were "Bluffing".

Incidentally, can we have less fluff (not related to the game at all) posts? They're really distracting.
rust45

DeathxShinigami wrote:

rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched. Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.
I wouldn't use myself as a reference. I kinda sucked it up in that game.

But anyway, rolefishing is certainly suspicious even if you're new. People should know that auxs need to be protective.
FoS on animask for now. Got my eye on DxS as well as he seems to be talking a lot. But he could just be a vocal townie.
Ph0X

DeathxShinigami wrote:

rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched. Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.
Link to that thread, please? I am interested.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

With nothing for me to lead on at the end of the first day out of three. I guess we will have to wait and see what other players do in the next hours.
You making this statement is suspicious. You're stating the obvious, but in a weird way, and in a way which deters attention from yourself.

NoHItter wrote:

1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Vanilla Townie, because I have little pressure to hide myself and tons of pressure to find scum. =D

NoHItter wrote:

2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Not at all. Lurking is an important aspect of Mafia, I believe. It's a play style, so let players choose to lurk if they wish.

NoHItter wrote:

3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I pick up clues and build a case about them base on my gut feeling of those clues. Basically, various details creates a tunnel vision for me, and I find excuses to make that tunnel work. ;P

NoHItter wrote:

4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I'm fine with using it to bring parallels to games without concerning characters (like DxS did above), but I find it somewhat sketchy if someone defends themselves or attacks another using character meta of themselves or some other player ("this player acted the same way in this other game, and they were scum!").

NoHItter wrote:

FoS: animask for role-fishing this early in the game. You do not want the cop/doctor to out themselves the first day. Only scum would want power roles (cop/doctor) to out themselves, so they can target them for a kill. Oh and for the "I love messing with you guys" quote.
A doctor may want to find out who the cop is to protect them. That's quite a stretch for day one though.
Mashley
Hooray, a questionnaire...

1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Anything that can kill... killing is fun :>

2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Not immediately, but I would question them.

3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Well I guess I try to analyse but I'm a crappy player so it often ends up gut-based

4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I don't use it, but I'm fine if people do.
DeathxShinigami
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why? I haven't been many different roles but any that can have an ability besides being a random townie.
2) Would you lynch lurkers? Probably not. Someone who is a bit more outspoken however usually winds up being voted upon by me though.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation? Usually analyze but most of the time I've been wrong when it comes to the end so I use a mix of both.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference) Helps build character upon later games but usually it's not that important.
Sleep Powder
Questions:

1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
I don't really know how any of the roles work yet.

2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Only if some crazy thing with chances and process of elimination comes up.

3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Analyze, but since its never really certain I'd have to use my "gut" too.

4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
Sounds like something I could use if I've played other games.

Analyzing Myself this feels funnier than you think

Why I would want to scope out for aux roles...

[*] Mafia role. Looking for a good kill on the first turn.
[*] Looking to see which set of roles we have in general.
[*] I could be the Doctor looking for the Cop to protect.
[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure myself while thinking the Doctor will try to protect me.
[*] I could be a townie trying to see if there really is another Doctor/Cop.
[*] I could be trying to seem like a Mafia to protect myself from the real Mafia.
[*] I could be a townie trying to use myself as bait so some aux role can be protected.
[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure in some suspects with my critical first move.
[*] I could be the Mafia-Roleblocker trying to find out who they are and trying to make them think I'm a townie/Doctor/Cop.

Some of these can be flipped for either side.
Ph0X

animask wrote:

[*] Looking to see which set of roles we have in general.
[*] I could be a townie trying to see if there really is another Doctor/Cop.
[*] I could be a townie trying to use myself as bait so some aux role can be protected.
These are illogical reasons.

animask wrote:

[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure in some suspects with my critical first move.
And with the 50% chance that the Mafia has a roleblocker, you're taking a huge risk.

DxS, you didn't respond to my inquiry.
Ph0X
iMuffin, what do you think about animask's actions?
DeathxShinigami

Ph0X wrote:

DxS, you didn't respond to my inquiry.
Whoops.

Anyways here
bmin11
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Cop. I like how it's role confirms the innocent and guilty
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Nope. I think they are lurking because of their position (cop/doc). It's likely to be a mafia, but I want to wait for the cop to find them first.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I...... don't know yet. Right now, I want to be analytic. I've seen townies being lynched due to their (bad) comments
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I share the same opinion with Ph0X
Ph0X

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Ph0X wrote:

DxS, you didn't respond to my inquiry.
Whoops.

Anyways here
Thanks.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched.
Okay. I disagree, but I can see how you (and other players of that game) came to that conclusion.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.
I don't understand. How were you the first? How was rust45 the first? And what does being first matter? How can you compare yourself to rust45? I don't see any similarities.
Sleep Powder
Learn from your mistakes from last time.

Don't lynch me on the first turn.

lol I need exp in mafia
DeathxShinigami
I meant one of the first to dive into the game... <o<

But yeah this hardcore newbie mafia sure is making the atmosphere here hectic...
Mashley
Siggggghhh I really want to vote animask... not sure if that's because he's genuinely suspicious or just really annoying.
Ph0X

animask wrote:

Learn from your mistakes from last time.

Don't lynch me on the first turn.

lol I need exp in mafia
Do you really like making yourself look more suspicious?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I meant one of the first to dive into the game... <o<
Now it's "one of"? And who cares?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

But yeah this hardcore newbie mafia sure is making the atmosphere here hectic...
How so? This seems like a normal game to me so far (minus RVS). Maybe it's because I'm making you sweat. ;P
DeathxShinigami
Fair enough, nothing more to say about my incident then.
Ph0X
May be out for a few days; moving California, USA. Hopefully I can hop on by the weekend.
rust45
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Haven't played enough mafia to really form an opinion, but I like to have some sort of an ability.

2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Only if they don't respond to questions asked.

3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I kinda suck, but I try to analyze, but go mainly with gut.

4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I don't care really, as long as it not used a crutch for an argument.

Ph0X wrote:

animask wrote:

[*] Looking to see which set of roles we have in general.
[*] I could be a townie trying to see if there really is another Doctor/Cop.
[*] I could be a townie trying to use myself as bait so some aux role can be protected.
These are illogical reasons.
I completely agree
Quaraezha
Sorry for being inactive.

1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
[Townie]
I find it difficult to blend in when I'm Mafia.
Also to convince others when I'm a Power Role.

2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Maybe, but based from my experiences, the ones who lurk are, most of the time, Power Roles.
Otherwise, they're Mafia or Townie.

3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Mostly on my guts, but I try to understand the situation too, since that's important.

4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
It protected me in the previous Mafia Game (by NoHItter)
It also ended up me being lynched (as Mafia)
So it's pretty useful.
iMuffin
sorry i'm posting so late, been kinda busy anyway first things first.


1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
my favorite role would have to be a doctor because i like the feeling i get when a night kill is unsuccessful because of me.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
if they had no good reasons to lurk? then yes.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I'll go with my gut on the first day usually but after that i really start paying attention to what everyone is posting.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I believe it can be used but it is to be used with discretion because some people act differently in every game

and also FoS on Animask for day 1 role fishing and a minor FoS on NoHitter and DxS NoHitter because of the questionnaire seems just a bit suspicious(even though i answered it lol) and DxS because he seems to be saying alot of confusing nonsense sometimes.
NoHitter
RQS (a.k.a. the "questionnaire") helps start discussion. Especially since we shouldn't RVS. No changing of votes FTL.
The deadline around 30 hours from now (which is very near). I think we need to tally the votes soon.
As opposed to just chucking the votes and not being able to change them, I suggest we tell first who we want lynched. (Sort of a pseudo-voting)

Although DxS and animask has been kind of suspicious as I've said before. A particular comment for Mashley has been pinging me more.

Mashley wrote:

Siggggghhh I really want to vote animask... not sure if that's because he's genuinely suspicious or just really annoying.
What Mashley said IMO, seems like a preemptive notion to jump on a possible animask bandwagon later. I find this suspicious as townies shouldn't even think of focusing their mind on a single target. Not to mention my gut has jumped on this too.

Therefore, I would like to have Mashley lynched.
Mashley
Well we've got to lynch someone, and animasks language to me at least seemed more than a little odd. That statement was more of a badly worded FOS than anything.
Sleep Powder
Pseudo-voting, eh?

I have been suspicious of DxS and Ph0x since they both posted their ideas of my motives.

So its possible that I will be voting for one of the two.

Also, I just realized that posting anything for information gets people suspicious here.
Then again, I don't think lurking is very fun. What to do?
DeathxShinigami
Sorry animask, your defense isn't cutting it anymore. While you run in circles since you wanted to bring in roleclaiming in day 1 you still have yet to evade your own suspicions as well.

Sounds REALLY fishy especially on the last part of day 1. HM...
Mashley
Alright, after thinking this through a bit more I think it's time to vote animask. The things he's said just seem so not-town-like, I'm sure someone can explain this better. It just seems a lot of people are waiting for someone to vote, and I guess I'm somewhat 'breaking the ice'.
Sleep Powder
Vote: Mashley

Siding with the townies too easily.

You must be mafia.

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.
bmin11

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.
I'm still holding my HoS (Hand of Suspicionon) on animask, because claiming to be a cop/doc would make...

animask wrote:

First, are there any Cops or Doctors here?
this comment look more then nonesense. The impression I'm getting from this looks like a last struggle of a mafia.


Any thoughts on this, everyone?
bmin11
Oh and about Mashley, I can see where NoHitter is going. However, animask does look suspicious from his comments and his latest one as well. Also, it more or less just looked like a mild (light? lack of vocabulary orz) post of opinion rather then trying to convince us to vote animask right away. I respect your thought, just not the right timing I guess
DeathxShinigami
Wow animask really? Role claiming to save yourself yet you ask everyone to claim cop or doctor at the start of the game?

I'm amazed it's coming to this but I'm holding my vote til the end of Day 1.
DeathxShinigami
Screw this, Day 1 is ending soon.

Without a further adeiu...

Vote: animask
Ph0X

NoHItter wrote:

Although DxS and animask has been kind of suspicious as I've said before. A particular comment for Mashley has been pinging me more.

Mashley wrote:

Siggggghhh I really want to vote animask... not sure if that's because he's genuinely suspicious or just really annoying.
What Mashley said IMO, seems like a preemptive notion to jump on a possible animask bandwagon later. I find this suspicious as townies shouldn't even think of focusing their mind on a single target. Not to mention my gut has jumped on this too.
I can see how you can come to that conclusion, NoHItter. However, I think Mashley's indecision was due to getting mixed messages about animask, not his unwillingness to vote (or a plan to bandwagon later and use that post as reasoning, as you suggest). Not to say you're wrong, of course; I just interpreted Mashley's post differently when I first read it.

DxS, thoughts on this?

animask wrote:

I have been suspicious of DxS and Ph0x since they both posted their ideas of my motives.

So its possible that I will be voting for one of the two.
Can you explain what "posted their ideas of my motives" means? I'm having a hard time understanding that English.

animask wrote:

Also, I just realized that posting anything for information gets people suspicious here.
Then again, I don't think lurking is very fun. What to do?
You play. You may look suspicious for having asked for a claim or two right off the bat. However, that shouldn't stop you from playing the game and doing your best to fulfill your role's duties. TL;DR move on.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

While you run in circles since you wanted to bring in roleclaiming in day 1 you still have yet to evade your own suspicions as well.
I can't understand this statement at all. Can you rephrase it?

animask wrote:

Vote: Mashley

Siding with the townies too easily.

You must be mafia.
(Formatting removed from quote.)

Who exactly are the townies? How do you know he's not a townie being influenced by the mafia? How does "siding with the townies" turn into "must be mafia"?

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.
Think for a minute. What would that accomplish? (Trying to help you out here, as you're clearly a newbie player.)

bmin11 wrote:

I'm still holding my HoS (Hand of Suspicionon) on animask, because claiming to be a cop/doc would make...

animask wrote:

First, are there any Cops or Doctors here?
this comment look more then nonesense.
Review animask's (mostly complete) list of scenarios.

iMuffin, you did not yet respond to my question directed at you earlier. You stated a FoS, but do you have anything else to add (especially given his most recent posts)?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Wow animask really? Role claiming to save yourself yet you ask everyone to claim cop or doctor at the start of the game?
It seems to me you're just looking for an easy and popular vote/bandwagon.

Also, I just realized days are but three days. Seems quite short; I can imagine that being really painful later on. Mod, can you extend Day 1 24 hours? Otherwise, I think players will be very pressured to vote, which IMO will turn out badly at this point. If not, that's completely fine and acceptable.
bmin11
I also agree with Ph0X with day extention. We need more people to share their thoughts before we vote :<
DeathxShinigami
I rushed cause Day 1 was going to end during my morning when I probably won't be up in time to check everything and make my vote then.

@Ph0x if we get an extension I'll elaborate more.

@Lady Would like an extension as well.
Ph0X

DeathxShinigami wrote:

@Ph0x if we get an extension I'll elaborate more.
Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.
DeathxShinigami

Ph0X wrote:

DeathxShinigami wrote:

@Ph0x if we get an extension I'll elaborate more.
Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.
Jeez...not giving me any wiggle room eh? ;p

Well, what I mean about animask is his generic behavior, he went on before he voted for mashley that'll he roleclaim his role if it comes down to him being lynched. Doesn't that just seem fishy?

Also, Mashley just responded the questions the way he responded them and animask is using that to tie into why he's voting for mashley. Just seems evasive to me but who knows.
Ph0X

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Well, what I mean about animask is his generic behavior, he went on before he voted for mashley that'll he roleclaim his role if it comes down to him being lynched. Doesn't that just seem fishy?
Yes; I already commented on that. It seems to support more animask being a newb townie not knowing how to play than he being a wreckless mafia member.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Also, Mashley just responded the questions the way he responded them and animask is using that to tie into why he's voting for mashley. Just seems evasive to me but who knows.
I'm really having a hard time understand what you write, DxS... What you just said was pretty tautological.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Day 1 has been extended |48| hours, and the rules for day lengths has been appended.

Due to the change in length of days, all votes have been reset.


This won't happen again, mainly because I'm only doing this so I can change my day length rules for future games right now.
DeathxShinigami
I can sleep in peace!

@Ph0x In the morning I swear, it's just my sloppy typing style.
Ph0X

LadySuburu wrote:

Day 1 has been extended |48| hours, and the rules for day lengths has been appended.

Due to the change in length of days, all votes have been reset.


This won't happen again, mainly because I'm only doing this so I can change my day length rules for future games right now.
Cool; thanks!
NoHitter
Mod: Can you please prod, iMuffin, Quaraezha, and rust?

animask wrote:

Also, I just realized that posting anything for information gets people suspicious here.
Then again, I don't think lurking is very fun. What to do?
Posting information does not make people suspicious of you. In fact, if you contribute lots of information, voice your opinions, etc. chances are, majority of people will see you as pro-town.

Town want as much information as possible to lead into a lynch as lynching is the town's only weapon for killing scum in a newbie game like this, and you want to be as sure as possible that the one you are lynching is scum. That's why information is good, and why town should share info.

Of course, there's a difference between information that would help the town and information that would worsen the town's standing (e.g. Public knowledge of who power roles are at the start of the game).

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.
@ bmin11:
That was what animask said. What gave you the idea that he was claiming power role?

Ph0x wrote:

Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.
I would suggest refraining from making "joke" comments like this. It only confuses town.
(It looks like as if you are mafia and will kill DxS >.>)
Quaraezha
Sorry.

I don't think
animask is Mafia because it is true that he's new to this game.
He may be acting strange, maybe because that's how he thought he could contribute to the community
or that's how he usually is.
Although it is possible that animask is also a power role and finds it difficult to blend in.
(He can still be Mafia though)

Not too sure who to vote yet but I think
bmin11 and Mashley are mafias
bmin11 because of the posts regarding roleclaims and whatever.
Mashley because his way of posting somehow ressembles from the previous game and he was Mafia.

Also a little hunch on
DxS and HItter.
I also think
Ph0x is townie.

That's all I can say for now, sorry for being less accurate and specific with my reasonings.
DeathxShinigami
My current conclusions with less than 48 hours to go

While I still find animask suspicious with his threat of roleclaiming if he gets closed to being lynched it seems more of a tactical move rather than saving himself and that's why I think he is either town or has an aux role.

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.

Gotta admit bmin's getting better at the game and he seems more town due to the nature of his posts. Just saying.

Then there's myself somewhat trapped into giving out detailed yet hard to understand responses (Blame my typing) But I just really want to make Day 1 a bit more smoother than in previous games.

NoHItter with a questionnaire? A tiny bit suspicious but maybe he's pro-town.

Quaraezha's opinion is still a little shaky for me to follow since it's kind of the opposite of everyone else's opinion thus far but maybe he knows something that I don't.

Ph0x is still Ph0x I only have doubts if you really are strager or not ;P

That's all for now.
rust45

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.
That's not a good reason to be suspicious of him, he was simply stating what kind of role he liked, I would not cast judgement on the others based on their answers to the questions.

I would give my opinion on all the players but I need to head to school though, but I'll be out early so I'll do it then.
NoHitter
Saying that you prefer a certain role over another is pointless in a game where everything is randomized.
You can't influence what role you get (unlike in PyP. In that case, saying you like a role that kills is like admitting you tried to send in a role who you think could kill)
Mashley

Quaraezha wrote:


Mashley because his way of posting somehow ressembles from the previous game and he was Mafia.
That's weak, I always post like that.
Anyway animask's been pretty quiet since I voted for him. Seems to me he's trying to wait for suspicion to die down or something. Since we've got another 2 days now I'm going to see what he has to say before I vote again.
DeathxShinigami

rust45 wrote:

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.
That's not a good reason to be suspicious of him, he was simply stating what kind of role he liked, I would not cast judgement on the others based on their answers to the questions.

Good point rust. I like said I have no immediate thoughts on Mashley though (lol hi Mashley ^) Mostly have my FoS on animask though since he's being evasive with his posts but eh.
bmin11

NoHitter wrote:

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.
@ bmin11:
That was what animask said. What gave you the idea that he was claiming power role?
From arguing to be innocent would be the same as claiming to be townie or their side. If he is being bandwagonned, he would need a stronger position to argue back. But from thinking back, after reading what you guys said, I realized it was only my assumption. Good thing I questioned you guys before making an hasty vote.

And again, he could be a bad townie who just made several bad comments. I'll loosen the tight on him for now since we got our 48 hours extention.



I would want to hear iMuffin's opinion as well. When is he coming back :<?
Ph0X

NoHItter wrote:

Mod: Can you please prod, iMuffin, Quaraezha, and rust?
I think only iMuffin isn't participating in this game (as I have asked for his opinion several times to no avail). The other players are doing fine. Also, you're not supposed to prod unless they have not posted within the past 48 hours.

NoHItter wrote:

Ph0x wrote:

Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.
I would suggest refraining from making "joke" comments like this. It only confuses town.
(It looks like as if you are mafia and will kill DxS >.>)
=D?

Quaraezha wrote:

I don't think animask is Mafia because it is true that he's new to this game.
He may be acting strange, maybe because that's how he thought he could contribute to the community
or that's how he usually is.
animask is just strange.

Quaraezha wrote:

Although it is possible that animask is also a power role and finds it difficult to blend in.
(He can still be Mafia though)
I don't think that's the case. "HEY GUISE NE2 HAS SUPER POWAHZ?" doesn't look at all like an attempt to blend in. I have already concluded that animask was a newbie vanilla townie desperately trying to assist the town.

Quaraezha wrote:

bmin11 because of the posts regarding roleclaims and whatever.
Assuming you are referring to this post by bmin11: I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time, I think it's a reasonable assumption that a player who would roleclaim to save themselves from a lynch would roleclaim a pro-town power role. Besides, bmin11 clearly said "if this then that"; he didn't say "this, thus that". I don't think that's grounds for suspicion.

Quaraezha wrote:

Mashley because his way of posting somehow ressembles from the previous game and he was Mafia.
As Mashley already stated, this is a terrible argument. Have you seen a game in which he was town?

Quaraezha wrote:

I also think Ph0x is townie.
I am flattered. ;P But stay open-minded.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

While I still find animask suspicious with his threat of roleclaiming if he gets closed to being lynched it seems more of a tactical move rather than saving himself and that's why I think he is either town or has an aux role.
I see a bit of WIFOM in this (on animask's part), but whatever. Think what you want. =]

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.
Putting words into people's mouths, eh?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Gotta admit bmin's getting better at the game and he seems more town due to the nature of his posts. Just saying.
Now I'm more convinced you and bmin11 are Mafia. (Buddying, if you don't see it.)

DeathxShinigami wrote:

NoHItter with a questionnaire? A tiny bit suspicious but maybe he's pro-town.
About that: I think it was pretty much worthless, except that it forced some players to post. I guess it helped in engagement, which is important.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Quaraezha's opinion is still a little shaky for me to follow since it's kind of the opposite of everyone else's opinion thus far but maybe he knows something that I don't.
From what I saw, they're mostly aligned with my opinions. And of course he knows something you don't: his own role. ;P

Mashley wrote:

Anyway animask's been pretty quiet since I voted for him. Seems to me he's trying to wait for suspicion to die down or something.
Uh... Last post was only 20 hours ago.

I have to go to work soon. I will post my opinions of each player as soon as I can.
rust45
Opinion Time!

Mashley
Nothing out of the ordinary to me, hasn't really defended himself, but he seems fine to me.

DxS
His wording is often confusing, and his early attack at bmin just seemed odd and unjustified.

imuffin
Who? He needs to be more active and respond to questions other than the questionnaire.

bmin11
Seems fine in my book, has been talking rather smartly and doesn't seem suspicious, he handled DxS odd attack on him just fine.

rust45
Oh hi.

animask
Has consistently said things that just plain sound odd and I still don't like the whole rolefishing thing.

NoHItter
The questionnaire was odd but doesn't raise suspicion. I don't understand why he asked for prods of Quarazha and I though.

Quaraezha
Seems to be playing just as he was last game, he was mafia then, but I haven't played many games with him so I can't think of anything wrong.

Ph0x
Is he strager or not? Not like it matters, seems to be the best player here.
iMuffin
okay sorry guys I got home a little bit ago and just finished reading everything I promise I'll give more elaboration later but right now i feel absolutely due to irl reasons so i'll get back to you guys on this.
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