18:23 Firetruck: hi, u requested a m4m from my queue, is it possible if i can do an irc with u for ur map?
18:23 Dragonguard1998: irc?
18:24 Firetruck: in-game mod c:
18:24 Dragonguard1998: oh
18:24 Dragonguard1998: sure, just give me 10 mins
18:24 Firetruck: yup
18:24 Dragonguard1998: I gotta eat something real quick
18:24 Firetruck: yeah tyt :3
18:30 Dragonguard1998: Alright, I'm ready when you are
18:31 Firetruck: ahh sorry in a sec
18:31 Firetruck: xD
18:31 Dragonguard1998: no worries
18:42 Firetruck: ok u ready?
18:42 Firetruck: sorry bout that
18:43 Dragonguard1998: I'm ready
18:43 Dragonguard1998: and no worries
18:44 Dragonguard1998: Which map do you want me to mod for you?
18:44 Firetruck: idk yet xD lets start with urs first
18:44 Dragonguard1998: alright
18:45 Firetruck: so first off the offset is wrong
18:45 Firetruck: the first strong beat starts at 00:01:155 -
18:46 Dragonguard1998: the song starts at 00:00:489 - though
18:47 Firetruck: yes but its normal to have a couple of sounds before it starts
18:47 Dragonguard1998: alright, didn't know that
18:47 Firetruck: ;p no problem
18:47 *Firetruck is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1191769 Hyadain - Hyadain no Kakata Kataomoi-C (TV Size) [Normal]]
18:48 Firetruck: i see that you use more than one anchor for ur curvy sliders which makes them uneven and just unpolished in general, i would recommend using just one
18:49 Firetruck: [http://prntscr.com/e1vs12 this] could turn into [http://prntscr.com/e1vs6i this] instead, looks cleaner
18:50 Dragonguard1998: Well, it kinda grew into a habit to do it like this since I have more freedom to control how it looks
18:50 Firetruck: i guess, but it's pretty much old style and no ones does it anymore xD since they fixed so that u dont have to use more than one, using one will make it more cleaner
18:51 Firetruck: just for normal curvy sliders, ofc
18:51 Firetruck: for other stuff like wavy ones you use more than one
18:52 Dragonguard1998: Yeah, i was taught some old style stuff xD
18:52 Firetruck: so it's your choice i guess if u wanna change the curvy ones or not, but i'm pretty sure alot of modders are gonna tell u the same thing xD
18:53 Dragonguard1998: Yeah, I'm changing it
18:53 Firetruck: cool ;p
18:53 Firetruck: also a question, did u use distance snap while mapping this?
18:53 Dragonguard1998: yea
18:53 Firetruck: ok good :^)
18:54 Firetruck: its inconsistent at some places, just check aimod to fix those
18:54 Dragonguard1998: I was lectured by someone of the quality assurance team about distance snap xD
18:54 Firetruck: oh cool
18:55 Firetruck: ok so
18:55 Firetruck: this is a general thing as well for all the diffs
18:56 Firetruck: 00:01:988 (1,4,5) - you should avoid these kinds of overlaps, they look kinda bad
18:56 Firetruck: 00:01:988 (1,3) - these too xd
18:56 Dragonguard1998: Yeah, I already see I'll have to re-arrange a lot of sliders and circles in normal diff
18:57 Firetruck: yup
18:57 Firetruck: ill focus more on rhyhtm and stuff like that then :')
18:59 Firetruck: 00:05:988 (7) - this could look neater by putting a read anchor in the middle, and even it all out
19:01 Firetruck: 00:05:988 (7) - another thing is that you're ignoring a pretty strong beat on 00:06:321 -
19:02 Firetruck: so i would recommend doing something like [http://prntscr.com/e1vyte this]
19:02 Firetruck: to follow the music better~
19:04 Dragonguard1998: Well, I didn't know if this wasn't too hard for Normal, so I didn't do it
19:04 Firetruck: 00:07:488 (1) - ends on a pretty strong beat, would be better if it was clickable to avoid awkwardness when playing
19:04 Firetruck: dont worry, it's fine on normal ;D
19:05 Firetruck: 1/2 sliders on normal are fine as long as u dont do way too much of it
19:05 Dragonguard1998: I don't really like to map Easy/Normal since I don't have the best feeling for mapping it slow >.<
19:06 Firetruck: you're not the only one who feels that way ;D alot of people do actually
19:08 Firetruck: 00:09:154 (1) - end this spinner earlier, too little of recovery time after it for a normal
19:08 Firetruck: and it would be good if 00:11:821 - was clickable as well since it's a pretty strong beat
19:09 Dragonguard1998: 00:11:654 -
19:09 Dragonguard1998: yea
19:09 Dragonguard1998: did that
19:09 Dragonguard1998: but
19:10 Dragonguard1998: It's not exactly good to reduce the spinner length by so much
19:10 Dragonguard1998: since it doesn't fit the beat anymore
19:11 Dragonguard1998: And if I put a circle at 00:11:821 - nothing really changes
19:11 Dragonguard1998: with the recovery time anyway
19:11 Firetruck: you could just map it out instead of having a spinner ;p
19:12 Firetruck: im not eniterly sure about how much recovery time you need after a spinner for a normal
19:12 Firetruck: its somewhere in the criteria im too lazy to find it xD
19:13 Firetruck: you can figure something out with that, let's move on~
19:13 Dragonguard1998: I'll think of something
19:14 Firetruck: 00:12:821 (3) - having more than one repeat in normal should be avoided
19:14 Firetruck: + you're missing a strong beat and vocal on 00:13:154 -
19:16 Firetruck: 00:14:154 (4) - i see that u end alot of sliders on strong beats, just check them all urself and fix that if you want since it plays really awkwardly. stroung beats should be clickable xd
19:18 Firetruck: alright, i looked through the whole diff and see alot of the mistakes i brung up repeating
19:18 Firetruck: so i would just look into it if i were u
19:19 Firetruck: the rest should be fine :'3
19:19 Dragonguard1998: Alright, I will :)
19:19 Firetruck: oh i just noticed something, why is kiai on 00:33:821 - to 00:51:821 -
19:20 Firetruck: kiais are put on more intense parts of songs, so it should be after the preview point
19:20 Dragonguard1998: Isn't kiai for refrain?
19:21 Firetruck: noo it's for intense parts of a song
19:21 Firetruck: (choruses)
19:21 Firetruck: i mean it's your choice where to put it ofc xD
19:22 Firetruck: it's not like it's unrankable or anything lmao
19:22 Firetruck: it's all ur choice to where to put it, but u usually put it in choruses or just intense parts of a song
19:23 Dragonguard1998: Alright
19:23 Dragonguard1998: I'll change it then
19:23 Firetruck: ;p
19:23 Firetruck: oh i gotta go now im sorry D: i'll finish the mod on the forum
19:24 Dragonguard1998: Alright, thank you for your help!