Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Yomi yori Kikoyu, Koukoku n

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 3:07:56 PM

Artist: Imperial Circus Dead Decadence
Title: Yomi yori Kikoyu, Koukoku n
Tags: Rib:y(uhki) KIMI ICDD Hull KIM marathon deathstream stream jumpstream spacestream jump
BPM: 220
Filesize: 25712kb
Play Time: 08:14
Difficulties Available:
  1. The Girl with the Flame of the Empire (8.32 stars, 2849 notes)


Download: Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Yomi yori Kikoyu, Koukoku n
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V.10: So after a very strong and harsh mod from Emilia I have decided to start over. No longer do I want mods on my old diff but now I need them on my new diff. I'm only 2 minutes in with this map but it is already marginally better than my other difficulty.

V.9: Starting over

V.8.5: Slider Smoothing

V.8: Slider smoothing and hitsound improvements

V.7.5: Smoothed some streams and improved hitsounding. Thanks to Dokito for letting me use his hitsounds.

V.7.25: Just some more hitsounding

V.7: Sound update! thanks repladux for the mod. I am currently using the sounds that Dokito used in his version of this map as a test for now. Until i can find someone to make propper hitsounds or if i get permission from him to use them i will be using them.

V.6.5: Changed some stuff thanks to a irc mod from NeoSkyLove

V.6: More streams added and made some jumps feel better.

V.5.5: Very big thanks to Net0 for the very good and professional mod. Has helped alot.

V.5.1: Fixed some AiMod problems.

V.5: By the looks of it we are approaching the final versions of our map. Thank you to Ayachi Nene for the mod.

V.4: Did the painstaking job of upping slider vel and having to remap the whole slider parts so they are in sync.

V.3.5: Applied some changes thanks to TheLordKiwi

V.3.25: Changed background and smoothed some streams

V.3: Changed most of the things suggested in the mod by Dron4ik_G

V.2.5: Made song alot more complicated. Finish 90% of the hitsounding and made streams alot lot better.

V.2: More Streams

V.1: Hitsounded (needs improvement)
Changed some stuff.

V.0.5: Changed combo colours and changed some streams.

V.0: Uploaded


WIP, Mods are appreciated. Guest Difficulties are welcomed!



I cannot set the artist name to be "Imperial Circus Dead Decadence" due to the following error
"data too long for column filename at row 10". A fix or some help on that would be aprreciated



Thanks NewPlayerfor bpm and timing points
Thanks to Dokito for letting me use his hitsounds.
_sponez
Hello! I am from mod queue.

  • [The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country]
  1. Change the offset to 1102 and move the timing section to -15 (without first).
  2. 00:02:207 (10, 11) - Move 11 closer to 10. Like 00:01:662 (9).
  3. 00:13:783 (11,1) - Stack.
  4. 00:20:192 (7,3) - This overlap isn't beautiful.
  5. 00:23:738 (4,5,6,7) - The arrangement of these elements is better to change.
  6. 00:38:738 (3,5) - Stack.
  7. 00:58:374 (3,6) - ^.
  8. 01:41:192 (9,10) - The distance is too great.
  9. 02:16:920 (5,7) - Better stack.
  10. 02:18:420 (13,3) - ^.
  11. 02:19:783 (8,11) - ^.
  12. 02:31:647 (8,9) - not aligned.
  13. 02:35:738 (8) - End of 8 is necessary to direct by 9.
  14. 02:55:647 (6,8) - Better stack.
  15. 03:39:283 (4,5) - End of 4 is necessary to direct by 5.
  16. 04:14:465 (7,9) - Stack.
  17. 04:54:283 - Add circles here.
  18. 04:54:965 - ^.
  19. 04:55:374 - ^.
  20. 05:08:738 - Here must be break.
  21. 05:36:011 (7) - ^.
  22. 05:38:124 (4) - ^.
  23. 05:12:556 (3,4) - overlap.
  24. 07:32:738 (5,6,7) - End of 5 is necessary to direct by 6 and 7.
  25. If you change offset on 1102, this elements 07:43:591 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,1) need move to -15 too.

    Good luck!
Topic Starter
T r i s t a n

Dron4ik_G wrote:

Hello! I am from mod queue.

  • [The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country]
  1. Change the offset to 1102 and move the timing section to -15 (without first).
  2. 00:02:207 (10, 11) - Move 11 closer to 10. Like 00:01:662 (9).
  3. 00:13:783 (11,1) - Stack.
  4. 00:20:192 (7,3) - This overlap isn't beautiful.
  5. 00:23:738 (4,5,6,7) - The arrangement of these elements is better to change.
  6. 00:38:738 (3,5) - Stack.
  7. 00:58:374 (3,6) - ^.
  8. 01:41:192 (9,10) - The distance is too great.
  9. 02:16:920 (5,7) - Better stack.
  10. 02:18:420 (13,3) - ^.
  11. 02:19:783 (8,11) - ^.
  12. 02:31:647 (8,9) - not aligned.
  13. 02:35:738 (8) - End of 8 is necessary to direct by 9.
  14. 02:55:647 (6,8) - Better stack.
  15. 03:39:283 (4,5) - End of 4 is necessary to direct by 5.
  16. 04:14:465 (7,9) - Stack.
  17. 04:54:283 - Add circles here.
  18. 04:54:965 - ^.
  19. 04:55:374 - ^.
  20. 05:08:738 - Here must be break.
  21. 05:36:011 (7) - ^.
  22. 05:38:124 (4) - ^.
  23. 05:12:556 (3,4) - overlap.
  24. 07:32:738 (5,6,7) - End of 5 is necessary to direct by 6 and 7.
  25. If you change offset on 1102, this elements 07:43:591 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,1) need move to -15 too.

    Good luck!
Thank you for mod, i have changed offset and most (if not almost all) of the things that you have pointed out :D
TheLordKiwi
Hi!
Here is my mod for M4M
  • [General]
  1. Put slider tick rate at 1, it's better.
  2. Maybe increase a bit the slider velocity. A 7* need to be fast enough to be hard to pass.
  3. OD 9?
  4. Most of inherited point are not on ticks.
  • [The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country]
  1. 00:18:556 (1,2) - This two sliders doesn't end on the right tick.
  2. 01:24:556 (3) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  3. 01:28:374 (1) - Same but this time on the red tick.
  4. 01:36:011 (5) - ^ but on the white tick.
  5. 01:42:692 - Add a circle here.
  6. 01:54:556 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Putting a spaced streams so early in the map doesn't make sense. It destroy the power of this pattern.Players become use to it and pass easily the laters spaced streams. And there is musical support for this. You should keep this kind of pattern for the end of the music or for really powerfull part of the song.
  7. 02:06:556 - NC (new combo).
  8. 02:07:657 - This slider should end on the white tick.
  9. 02:12:011 - ^.
  10. 02:13:920 - Add a circle here.
  11. 02:14:602 (4,5) - Increase the distance between this two for easier reading.
  12. 02:38:738 - NC.
  13. 02:48:011 (1) - This slider should end on the red tick.
  14. 02:51:283 (4) - ^.
  15. 02:51:829 (5) - ^.
  16. 02:53:829 (8) - Put at 02:53:874 (red tick).
  17. 03:28:374 (1) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  18. 03:30:556 (4) - ^ but on the red tick.
  19. 03:46:920 (1) - ^ but on the red tick. Why Kiai mode here?
  20. 03:51:011 (11) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  21. 04:42:420 - Add a circle here.
  22. 04:44:465 (7) - NC.
  23. 05:01:502 (1) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  24. 05:27:283 (1) - ^ but on the red tick.
  25. 05:43:657 (1) - ^ but on the red tick.
  26. 05:52:511 (1) - This slider doesn't end perfectly on the right tick.
  27. 06:47:465 (1,2) - The second slider start exactly at the same time that the first end.
  28. 07:08:738 (1) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  29. 07:13:102 (1) - ^.
  30. 07:28:374 (5) - ^.
  31. 08:05:477 (1) - Maybe put a new slider on every bell we hear.


If there is something you don't understand, PM me :)
Good luck!
Topic Starter
T r i s t a n

TheLordKiwi wrote:

Hi!
Here is my mod for M4M
  • [General]
  1. Put slider tick rate at 1, it's better.
  2. Maybe increase a bit the slider velocity. A 7* need to be fast enough to be hard to pass.
  3. OD 9?
  4. Most of inherited point are not on ticks.
  • [The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country]
  1. 00:18:556 (1,2) - This two sliders doesn't end on the right tick.
  2. 01:24:556 (3) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  3. 01:28:374 (1) - Same but this time on the red tick.
  4. 01:36:011 (5) - ^ but on the white tick.
  5. 01:42:692 - Add a circle here.
  6. 01:54:556 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Putting a spaced streams so early in the map doesn't make sense. It destroy the power of this pattern.Players become use to it and pass easily the laters spaced streams. And there is musical support for this. You should keep this kind of pattern for the end of the music or for really powerfull part of the song.
  7. 02:06:556 - NC (new combo).
  8. 02:07:657 - This slider should end on the white tick.
  9. 02:12:011 - ^.
  10. 02:13:920 - Add a circle here.
  11. 02:14:602 (4,5) - Increase the distance between this two for easier reading.
  12. 02:38:738 - NC.
  13. 02:48:011 (1) - This slider should end on the red tick.
  14. 02:51:283 (4) - ^.
  15. 02:51:829 (5) - ^.
  16. 02:53:829 (8) - Put at 02:53:874 (red tick).
  17. 03:28:374 (1) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  18. 03:30:556 (4) - ^ but on the red tick.
  19. 03:46:920 (1) - ^ but on the red tick. Why Kiai mode here?
  20. 03:51:011 (11) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  21. 04:42:420 - Add a circle here.
  22. 04:44:465 (7) - NC.
  23. 05:01:502 (1) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  24. 05:27:283 (1) - ^ but on the red tick.
  25. 05:43:657 (1) - ^ but on the red tick.
  26. 05:52:511 (1) - This slider doesn't end perfectly on the right tick.
  27. 06:47:465 (1,2) - The second slider start exactly at the same time that the first end.
  28. 07:08:738 (1) - This slider should end on the white tick.
  29. 07:13:102 (1) - ^.
  30. 07:28:374 (5) - ^.
  31. 08:05:477 (1) - Maybe put a new slider on every bell we hear.


If there is something you don't understand, PM me :)
Good luck!
Almost all changes applied. I havent done your NC requests though as i dont feel they are necassary and also in some of the spots where you suggest to finish on a red tick
[*] 02:48:011 (1) - This slider should end on the red tick.
[*] 02:51:283 (4) - ^.
[*] 02:51:829 (5) - ^.
[*] 02:53:829 (8) - Put at 02:53:874 (red tick).
[*] 03:28:374 (1) - This slider should end on the white tick.
[*] 03:30:556 (4) - ^ but on the red tick.
[*] 03:46:920 (1) - ^ but on the red tick. Why Kiai mode here?.
i have those on a pink tick because that section of the song is played in 1/6 and not 1/4,

Thank you for mod, i will play a game of cs then i will mod your map.
Ayachi Nene

The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country

  1. 01:11:874 (4,5) - Decrease spacing? It looked like the same spacing as the previous 01:11:329 (2,3) - but is a shorter interval.
  2. 01:23:465 (9) - Maybe NC here.
  3. 01:41:465 (10) - NC here?
  4. 04:08:738 (1) - Is there really a need to put a spaced stream here? It doesn't sound that much different from all the riffs.
  5. 07:52:113 - Somewhere over here in this drum section may be the best place for a spaced stream as it is the finale.
Topic Starter
T r i s t a n

Ayachi Nene wrote:

The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country

  1. 01:11:874 (4,5) - Decrease spacing? It looked like the same spacing as the previous 01:11:329 (2,3) - but is a shorter interval. Spacing has being fixed.
  2. 01:23:465 (9) - Maybe NC here. Done
  3. 01:41:465 (10) - NC here? Done
  4. 04:08:738 (1) - Is there really a need to put a spaced stream here? It doesn't sound that much different from all the riffs. Changed to be more in sync with music
  5. 07:52:113 - Somewhere over here in this drum section may be the best place for a spaced stream as it is the finale. Added 2 spacestreams at the very end
Thank you very much for the mod :D
Net0
New mapper mod from my queue

[General]
  1. The blue combo color 00:05:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) – mixed with all this vivid colors doesn’t look good at all. I mean, if you’re to actually use it in a more specific way, to map different parts of the map I would have no problem, but it’s just the color you choose. https://puu.sh/ucy2C.png
  2. Check aibot always, ctrol+shift+a , this two objects are on the same snap 02:42:147 (7,1) -
[The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country]
  1. This is heavily undermapped 00:09:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) - . I believe that it’s a good thing this is not a deathstream right at the start of the map, but at the same time, not mapping any 1/4 at all feels of with the song. You can increase the tapping intensity here with 1-8 streams at a constant rhythm and it still work great as an introduction to the map.
  2. This entire intro 00:01:102 - ~ 00:07:647 – could be splitted into four different phrases that could be mapped very similar and consistent;
    00:01:102 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
    00:03:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
    00:05:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -
    00:06:556 (1,2,3) -
    The forth one is totally breaking the consistency here.
  3. In various spots of your map you do overlaps. I’ll list some examples; 00:05:806 (6,1,3) -; 00:07:920 (5,10) - ; 00:10:102 (3,6) - - ; 00:10:374 (5,8) - ; 00:10:920 (7,11) -; 00:11:465 (11,1) - ; 00:11:192 (9,12,2) - . The reason I’m mentioning this is because at some other spots you actually have stacked 00:24:829 (8,2,3,4) -; 00:29:465 (1,3,1,2) - .That makes the diff have randomly placed objects. My point here is that you have to choose specific parts of the song to use each of this, to make it consistent and not random. Of couse, really close objects on the timeline should not overlap at all 00:31:647 (1,2) - , because it makes it hard to read without reason.
  4. Whenever you want to create a rhythm, make sure it’s clear to players what you’re doing and don’t mix too much rhythm choices in a small amout of time. Here 01:08:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) – you’re following the idea of an organic 1/2 beat gap rhythm that’s really common and considered the most intuitive way of creating rhythm. But right next to it you use a melodic rhythm 01:10:920 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – which contains a lot of different gaps from 1/2 to 1/1 in various places, often seen in older maps, which makes sightreading an issue most of the time. Both of this rhythm ideas fits into the mapping of osu! , but you need to use them with a clear planning based on the song structure. My advice is that since you’re mapping an extra with such a huge amount of difficulty, always try to keep the rhythm at 1/2 density, unless the song gets really calm and 1/2 becomes overmap, like you did here for example 00:04:374 (1,2,3,4) – a correct 1/1 gap here for the emphasis on the melody, correctly mapped :)
  5. Another important thing is to always pay attention to the inherented points when you change timing, they won’t automatically follow new offset, bpm, etc. That’s why some of your inherented points are not on snap, for example, this inherented 01:24:298 – should be on 01:24:283 – instead.
  6. Good thing that you’re already using some interesting blanket concepts 01:24:556 (2,4) - . Just make sure that they look the best as possible and don’t let them overlap the sliderends when you’re doing this types of blankets.
  7. Interesting 01:47:192 (1,2) - . You are trying to make a pattern here that will follow vocal by using 3/4 sliders. Just make sure to follow the vocal line until the end and that all sliders have the same length and all sliderends are silenced like this; https://puu.sh/ucAxO.jpg and here’s how it looks on the timing and control points ; https://puu.sh/ucACT.png
  8. Another tip, always save the spaced streams for the MOST intense parts of the music, don’t over use it on parts that are not strong at all like this 02:15:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - . Mostly because you will will make a not so important part of the music hard, while other strong and emphatic ones will not be as hard and interesting; 05:21:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
As it’s mentioned on my queue, I will not get into full details of the map itself, but mostly give you this general feedback and tips. Hopefully you will find them helpful in order for you to improve your maps even more. Good luck with your mapping :D
Hobbes2
Won't really mod this since I can't really mod stuff this hard, but I'll give you some very general feedback;

- Avoid overlapping things so much

for example, 00:01:647 (9,10,11) - is just a mess because everyone's on top of each other, space it out like 00:03:829 (9,10) - is. Overlapping in the wrong spots can really make a map look ugly.
00:10:920 (7,8,11) - here, its not necessarily the overlap with 7 and 11, but the fact that 11 and 8 are so close to overlapping that it looks bad
00:13:783 (11,1) -
00:24:556 (6,8) -

Stuff like this make the map look ugly.

- Rhythm needs a lot of work

The sections that aren't streams don't really make sense, for example 00:25:238 (2,3,4) - this triplet is mapped, but the sound at 00:25:715 - is not mapped
00:26:874 (5) - is 3 claps, but it is mapped with less intensity than 00:26:465 (2,3,4) - because it's a slider and those 3 are big jumps

I really recommend learning the basics of mapping with an easier map before you try something this hard, because the way the map is it's never going to be ranked without a remap, it needs a lot of work in pretty much all aspects of mapping. If you want to learn through a map like that, I suppose you can do that, but it might be hard. You need a lot of skill to map a song like this at this difficulty.

I don't mean to sound mean, sorry if it came across that way. Good luck!
Topic Starter
T r i s t a n

Net0 wrote:

New mapper mod from my queue

[General]
  1. The blue combo color 00:05:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) – mixed with all this vivid colors doesn’t look good at all. I mean, if you’re to actually use it in a more specific way, to map different parts of the map I would have no problem, but it’s just the color you choose. https://puu.sh/ucy2C.png I am working on making the blue only on certain parts.
  2. Check aibot always, ctrol+shift+a , this two objects are on the same snap 02:42:147 (7,1) -
[The Girl with the Flame of the Imperial Country]
  1. This is heavily undermapped 00:09:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) - . I believe that it’s a good thing this is not a deathstream right at the start of the map, but at the same time, not mapping any 1/4 at all feels of with the song. You can increase the tapping intensity here with 1-8 streams at a constant rhythm and it still work great as an introduction to the map. - Made whole section a stream.
  2. This entire intro 00:01:102 - ~ 00:07:647 – could be splitted into four different phrases that could be mapped very similar and consistent;
    00:01:102 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
    00:03:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
    00:05:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -
    00:06:556 (1,2,3) - Made this more similar to the previous ones
    The forth one is totally breaking the consistency here.
  3. In various spots of your map you do overlaps. I’ll list some examples; 00:05:806 (6,1,3) -; 00:07:920 (5,10) - ; 00:10:102 (3,6) - - ; 00:10:374 (5,8) - ; 00:10:920 (7,11) -; 00:11:465 (11,1) - ; 00:11:192 (9,12,2) - . The reason I’m mentioning this is because at some other spots you actually have stacked 00:24:829 (8,2,3,4) -; 00:29:465 (1,3,1,2) - .That makes the diff have randomly placed objects. My point here is that you have to choose specific parts of the song to use each of this, to make it consistent and not random. Of couse, really close objects on the timeline should not overlap at all 00:31:647 (1,2) - , because it makes it hard to read without reason. - Fixed a majority of overlaps
  4. Whenever you want to create a rhythm, make sure it’s clear to players what you’re doing and don’t mix too much rhythm choices in a small amout of time. Here 01:08:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) – you’re following the idea of an organic 1/2 beat gap rhythm that’s really common and considered the most intuitive way of creating rhythm. But right next to it you use a melodic rhythm 01:10:920 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – which contains a lot of different gaps from 1/2 to 1/1 in various places, often seen in older maps, which makes sightreading an issue most of the time. Both of this rhythm ideas fits into the mapping of osu! , but you need to use them with a clear planning based on the song structure. My advice is that since you’re mapping an extra with such a huge amount of difficulty, always try to keep the rhythm at 1/2 density, unless the song gets really calm and 1/2 becomes overmap, like you did here for example 00:04:374 (1,2,3,4) – a correct 1/1 gap here for the emphasis on the melody, correctly mapped :)Have made rhythms relate to the music and are alot smoother
  5. Another important thing is to always pay attention to the inherented points when you change timing, they won’t automatically follow new offset, bpm, etc. That’s why some of your inherented points are not on snap, for example, this inherented 01:24:298 – should be on 01:24:283 – instead. - Yes, i have being aware of this as when i changed the songs offset it messed all the inherented points up which i really need to fix but i havent found time.
  6. Good thing that you’re already using some interesting blanket concepts 01:24:556 (2,4) - . Just make sure that they look the best as possible and don’t let them overlap the sliderends when you’re doing this types of blankets. - I kind of understand this.
  7. Interesting 01:47:192 (1,2) - . You are trying to make a pattern here that will follow vocal by using 3/4 sliders. Just make sure to follow the vocal line until the end and that all sliders have the same length and all sliderends are silenced like this; https://puu.sh/ucAxO.jpg and here’s how it looks on the timing and control points ; https://puu.sh/ucACT.png - I do not understand this at all
  8. Another tip, always save the spaced streams for the MOST intense parts of the music, don’t over use it on parts that are not strong at all like this 02:15:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - . Mostly because you will will make a not so important part of the music hard, while other strong and emphatic ones will not be as hard and interesting; 05:21:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Made spacestreams relate more to the music
As it’s mentioned on my queue, I will not get into full details of the map itself, but mostly give you this general feedback and tips. Hopefully you will find them helpful in order for you to improve your maps even more. Good luck with your mapping :D
Overall thank you for the mod. It is very detailed and professionally done. If i could give you more kudos i would.
The parts where i don't understand are most likely due to my english learning difficulties and i would probably understand if they where spoken to me.
Ultimately it is a great mod and your work is greatly appreciated.
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14:23 Neoskylove: 00:03:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I think looks hard to read?
14:23 Neoskylove: 00:03:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is just circular pattern and kickslider.
14:23 Neoskylove: Just putting scircular pattern looks hard for me.
14:24 Neoskylove: 00:04:102 (10,1) - and this part has random jump.
14:25 Neoskylove: 00:05:192 (4,1) - and this antijump looks weird, as you know, 00:04:374 (1,2,3,4) - same with this rhythm.
14:25 Neoskylove: 00:07:647 (8) - add New combo(NC) here
14:26 Neoskylove: 00:07:920 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I wonder this parrt is not stream, I think stream is better since you tried stream at others,
14:26 Neoskylove: Think about consistency when you mapping
14:27 Neoskylove: 00:18:829 (2,3) - ctrl G
14:27 Neoskylove: did you tried? or Am I going too fast?
14:28 T r i s t a n: no its fine
14:28 Neoskylove: did you fixed them?
14:29 Neoskylove: 00:29:192 (9,1) - as I said, DS is weird, too
14:29 Neoskylove: DS means "Distance snap"
14:29 Neoskylove: You have to make consistant DS even if map is Extra diff,.
14:30 Neoskylove: 00:56:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - too much stack?
14:32 Neoskylove: 02:05:192 (1,2) - similar DS with others like 02:05:602 (4,5,6,7) - , but different rhythm? looks really weird.
14:32 Neoskylove: HArd to read notes.
14:32 Neoskylove: That's all I think..
14:32 Neoskylove: It doesn't mean "others are fine for me"
14:32 Neoskylove: other problems are same with this,
Topic Starter
T r i s t a n

Neoskylove wrote:

14:23 Neoskylove: 00:03:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I think looks hard to read? Made this easier to read
14:23 Neoskylove: 00:03:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is just circular pattern and kickslider.
14:23 Neoskylove: Just putting scircular pattern looks hard for me.
14:24 Neoskylove: 00:04:102 (10,1) - and this part has random jump. Made the jump not random
14:25 Neoskylove: 00:05:192 (4,1) - and this antijump looks weird, as you know, 00:04:374 (1,2,3,4) - same with this rhythm. removed the antijump so it is now just a normal jump
14:25 Neoskylove: 00:07:647 (8) - add New combo(NC) here done
14:26 Neoskylove: 00:07:920 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I wonder this parrt is not stream, I think stream is better since you tried stream at others,
14:26 Neoskylove: Think about consistency when you mapping made more streamy
14:27 Neoskylove: 00:18:829 (2,3) - ctrl G done
14:27 Neoskylove: did you tried? or Am I going too fast?
14:28 T r i s t a n: no its fine
14:28 Neoskylove: did you fixed them?
14:29 Neoskylove: 00:29:192 (9,1) - as I said, DS is weird, toofixed distance snap
14:29 Neoskylove: DS means "Distance snap"
14:29 Neoskylove: You have to make consistant DS even if map is Extra diff,.
14:30 Neoskylove: 00:56:738 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - too much stack? the stack is now split in half by a kick slider
14:32 Neoskylove: 02:05:192 (1,2) - similar DS with others like 02:05:602 (4,5,6,7) - , but different rhythm? looks really weird. changed the ds
14:32 Neoskylove: HArd to read notes.
14:32 Neoskylove: That's all I think..
14:32 Neoskylove: It doesn't mean "others are fine for me"
14:32 Neoskylove: other problems are same with this,
Ty for the mod. Much appreciated
sakebi
00:33:147 (6,7) - spacing is larger than other similar sections, such as 00:34:238 (2,3) -
00:44:738 (1) - slider end should be at 00:45:556 (1) -
00:49:102 (1) - spinner should be split with a new one starting 00:51:352 -
01:14:942 (12) - should have a circle 01:15:283 - with a hitsound, probably whistle or clap
01:49:783 (19) - this circle doesn't match with any sound, i suggest a slider with a reverse end like on the map that's ranked already for 01:49:102 (17,18,19,20) -
01:50:192 - this white tick should be a circle, not a slider end
01:58:920 (1,2) - this and 02:01:102 (2,3) - should be the same, so either a jump or stacked
02:25:102 (3,4,5,6) - sliders should be closer together, spacing doesn't fit with this section of the music
03:33:556 (4,5,6) - spacing between these three should be smaller to fit with the speed
03:39:011 (3,4) - ^
03:40:374 (6,7,8) - ^
04:52:374 (1,2) - would be better as sliders
04:56:192 (12,13,14,15,1) - it should get quieter less, maybe -3 volume per green line. also, the green lines should land right on their respective beats
05:08:738 - no break here would be good visually
06:27:829 - break shouldn't be extended, end should just be gray
07:14:192 (3,4) - sliders should end on the white ticks
07:36:011 (3,4) - ^
Thanks for the M4M
Topic Starter
T r i s t a n

repladux wrote:

00:33:147 (6,7) - spacing is larger than other similar sections, such as 00:34:238 (2,3) - fixed.
00:44:738 (1) - slider end should be at 00:45:556 (1) - i have had more people suggest it finishing where it is so ill leave it how it is.
00:49:102 (1) - spinner should be split with a new one starting 00:51:352 - made spinner finish earlier and added a little stream instead
01:14:942 (12) - should have a circle 01:15:283 - with a hitsound, probably whistle or clap fixed
01:49:783 (19) - this circle doesn't match with any sound, i suggest a slider with a reverse end like on the map that's ranked already for 01:49:102 (17,18,19,20) - fixed
01:50:192 - this white tick should be a circle, not a slider end fixed
01:58:920 (1,2) - this and 02:01:102 (2,3) - should be the same, so either a jump or stacked fixed
02:25:102 (3,4,5,6) - sliders should be closer together, spacing doesn't fit with this section of the music fixed
03:33:556 (4,5,6) - spacing between these three should be smaller to fit with the speed fixed
03:39:011 (3,4) - ^ ^
03:40:374 (6,7,8) - ^^
04:52:374 (1,2) - would be better as sliders done
04:56:192 (12,13,14,15,1) - it should get quieter less, maybe -3 volume per green line. also, the green lines should land right on their respective beats
05:08:738 - no break here would be good visually done
06:27:829 - break shouldn't be extended, end should just be gray i dont really get what you mean but i think i fixed it
07:14:192 (3,4) - sliders should end on the white ticks they where supposed to finish on red ticks so i moved them to that.
07:36:011 (3,4) - ^^
Thanks for the M4M
cheerrs :D
Emilia
oh boy how do i mod this

[tgwtfotic]
  1. just me or are all your green lines off
  2. 00:01:102 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2) - messy emphasis, you might probably want to make sure either you map all guitars as sliders or follow the drum, else rhythm becomes too complicated to follow
  3. 00:04:374 (1,2,3,4) - similarly, why not make these sliders?
  4. 00:06:556 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not sure what youre emphasising here. there are more drums than you mapped, the guitars arent represented well?
  5. 00:08:738 (8) - not gonna nc this?
  6. 00:09:147 (9,10,11) - again, what are you emphasising in this portion? nothing about your hitcircles represent anything that stick out in the song particularly
  7. 00:11:670 (4,5,6) - 00:12:488 (16,1,2) - whats here that justified the sharp turn of stream shape?
  8. 00:12:079 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why the sudden dip in distance here and the 00:13:033 (8,9,10,11,12) - increase here and 00:13:374 (13) - another dip again? the song only really intensified in this portion with the increase of pitch, but your stream distances were all over the place
  9. 00:15:420 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - similarly^
  10. 00:16:374 (1,2,3,4) - you chose to switch over completely from deathstream style for 2 weak cymbals but chose to 00:17:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - map streams for obvious possible vocal emphasis? the instruments werent captured properly imo
  11. 00:18:556 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - seems like youre just mapping rhythms you WANT to map and disregarding everything in the song; despite the continuous drums and the guitar notes, you dont seem to be emphasising either and you're just mapping what you want, which makes no sense rhythmically. eg. 00:25:102 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - relisten to this whole drum part on 25%, you'll realise its singletap-triplet-singletap-triplet-triple-quintuplet, missed beat 00:25:715 -
  12. 00:26:192 (1,2,3,4,5) - emphasis is out of whack; strong beats were clearly on 00:26:192 - 00:26:465 - 00:26:738 - 00:27:011 - , suggest only making these notes clickbeats so them emphasis is more obvious
  13. 00:29:192 (9) - i hear absolutely nothing here that justifies the reverse
  14. 00:30:011 (3,4) - blanket??
  15. 00:31:647 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - again, the random rhythm suggests that you arent adhering to the rhythmic patterns in the song
  16. 00:38:942 (12,1,2) - why did you make a sharp turn of stream shape here, there was nothing strong on this note
  17. 00:42:829 (5) - not every reverse on this slider has something in the music, which can be confusing to follow
  18. 00:52:238 - does this strong guitar here not deserve some form of emphasis?
  19. 00:52:783 (11,12) - what are you emphasising here?
  20. 00:57:539 - why is the preview point on something that isnt the most intense part of the song

    i think theres no need to continue really. everything i've pointed out have been relentlessly repeated through your whole map. basically a lot of confusing rhythmic choices, messed up emphases and unrefined patterns that i can't really agree with. i think you can follow some of my examples to rework your whole map.


gl
Scaltinof
hi thanks for m4m ~
~General~
sliders should not start with upbeat in special cases.
List the not good slider that i think
00:29:874 (3) - 00:30:965 (3) - 00:33:147 (3) - 00:59:602 (5) - 01:20:329 (6) - 01:21:420 (6) - 02:08:874 (2) - 02:17:874 (4) - 02:18:692 (2) -
02:29:056 (6) - 03:51:965 (6) - 05:02:874 (6) -

00:26:738 (2) - i think this slider should crtl+g ,it is good flow
00:57:556 -it is the sound to take
01:33:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - how about trying the following?
02:45:829 - circle should puts here
03:03:283 - ↑
03:34:101 (6) - this slide should start with 03: 33: 829 -
03:41:738 (7,8,9) - recommend
04:49:102 (1) - this is a point to change stream flow
04:51:283 - circle should puts here
05:12:079 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i think this part should put 1/3 stream
05:18:556 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - ↑
05:52:102 - circle should puts here
06:07:374 - ↑
06:36:010 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i think this is looks bad... you can put regular heptagon from ctrl+shift+d
07:43:591 - timing point should put here
07:43:523 (1) - this slider should start with 07:43:523 (1) -
07:44:682 - this timing point is ok to erase it

Good luck~
Topic Starter
T r i s t a n
TY4MOD

Scaltinof wrote:

hi thanks for m4m ~
~General~
sliders should not start with upbeat in special cases.
List the not good slider that i think 私はこれらのいくつかを修正した
00:29:874 (3) - 00:30:965 (3) - 00:33:147 (3) - 00:59:602 (5) - 01:20:329 (6) - 01:21:420 (6) - 02:08:874 (2) - 02:17:874 (4) - 02:18:692 (2) -
02:29:056 (6) - 03:51:965 (6) - 05:02:874 (6) -

00:26:738 (2) - i think this slider should crtl+g ,it is good flow 仕上がる
00:57:556 -it is the sound to take 私は分かった。仕上がる
01:33:829 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - how about trying the following?
 仕上がる
02:45:829 - circle should puts here 仕上がる
03:03:283 - ↑ 仕上がる
03:34:101 (6) - this slide should start with 03: 33: 829 - 仕上がらない
03:41:738 (7,8,9) - recommend
 仕上がる
04:49:102 (1) - this is a point to change stream flow 仕上がる
04:51:283 - circle should puts here 仕上がらない
05:12:079 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i think this part should put 1/3 stream 仕上がらない このセクションは1/4です
05:18:556 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - ↑ 仕上がらない このセクションは1/4です
05:52:102 - circle should puts here 仕上がる
06:07:374 - ↑ 仕上がらない これは大丈夫です
06:36:010 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i think this is looks bad... you can put regular heptagon from ctrl+shift+d 仕上がる
07:43:591 - timing point should put here 仕上がる
07:43:523 (1) - this slider should start with 07:43:523 (1) - 分からない
07:44:682 - this timing point is ok to erase it 仕上がる

Good luck~
ありがとうございます。
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