14:40 Spork Lover: 7 should be a kickslider
14:40 Krowzin: yeah i just overmapped
14:41 Krowzin: oh really?
14:41 Spork Lover: and the stream needs some kicksliders in the end to follow the piano thing
14:41 Krowzin: what do you mean
14:41 Spork Lover: erm
14:42 Spork Lover: 01:04:875 (3) - basically kicksliders from here
14:42 Spork Lover: 01:05:947 (4) - nc btw
14:42 Krowzin: why
14:43 Spork Lover: NC due to big white tick + chorus start
14:43 Spork Lover: if you listen to the piano
14:43 Spork Lover: there's some stronger sounds on specific parts of the stream
14:43 Spork Lover: you can play around with rhythm there a lot because of it
14:44 Spork Lover: 01:05:589 (1,2,3) - you're already doing it here for example, this part is good
14:44 Krowzin: doesnt it get stronger every note
14:44 Krowzin: thats because of that drum sound
14:44 Spork Lover: that's where you increase the spacing :^)
14:44 Spork Lover: 'cause then it still follows the volume increase
14:45 Krowzin: my mind is exploding
14:45 Krowzin: what about an accelerator stream
14:45 Spork Lover: that works too
14:45 Krowzin: oh baby
14:46 Krowzin: i think its pretty awkward that it starts on 7
14:46 Spork Lover: just make sure you don't make it too ridiculously spaced haha xd
14:46 Krowzin: when you just did back and forths
14:46 Spork Lover: that's why 7 is a kickslider
14:46 Spork Lover: then it doesn't need to overlap
14:46 Spork Lover: then just do another spaced jump
14:46 Krowzin: damn i thought that part played so nicely too
14:46 Krowzin: all circley n shit
14:46 Spork Lover: i didn't have problems with it
14:46 Krowzin: leads into the vocals with those sliders
14:46 Krowzin: fuq
14:47 Spork Lover: but when listening to the song, the stream is underwhelming
14:47 Spork Lover: imo
14:47 Krowzin: i like it too much to change it
14:47 Krowzin: even if its wrong
14:47 Spork Lover: if other people mention it when you start getting mods, there's probably something right about it :p
14:47 Krowzin: hmm actually
14:48 Spork Lover: 01:08:625 (1) - i hope i don't have to explain this one xd
14:49 Krowzin: oh god
14:49 Krowzin: i missed that completely
14:49 Spork Lover: jump + 1/2 slider
14:49 Krowzin: i did it right the next time too
14:49 Spork Lover: yup
14:49 Krowzin: i knew that part felt wrong
14:49 Spork Lover: the chorus is pretty good except for that though
14:49 Spork Lover: you're following the song well
14:50 Krowzin: like
14:50 Krowzin: circle on red then slider on big white?
14:50 Krowzin: again i did copy the rhythm of doormat
14:50 Krowzin: for the most part
14:50 Spork Lover: 01:26:304 (2) - when listening to this, doesn't it sound like more of a sudden stop?
14:50 Spork Lover: even the first slider sounds like that xd
14:50 Krowzin: true
14:51 Spork Lover: i'd just make two mirrored single taps
14:51 Krowzin: what about a return slider to the spinner start
14:51 Krowzin: from the first slider
14:51 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140656 eyeballed it
14:51 Krowzin: nvm
14:51 Krowzin: sounds like shit
14:51 Spork Lover: you can also do a slider that starts/ends where these two notes are
14:52 Spork Lover: (on timeline)
14:52 Spork Lover: example:
14:53 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140665
14:53 Spork Lover: eyeballed again
14:53 Spork Lover: can be a lot prettier lol
14:53 Spork Lover: 01:26:661 (1) - spinner should start on red tick
14:53 Spork Lover: if you play through, it starts too late
14:53 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140670
14:54 Krowzin: aokie
14:55 Krowzin: making accelerator streams look good is impossible
14:55 Spork Lover: that's a lie :3
14:55 Spork Lover: <3
14:56 Krowzin: https://gyazo.com/d68aad8813d21c333dde5b689febaaa4
14:56 Krowzin: wait gyazo
14:56 Krowzin: why
14:56 Krowzin: https://i.gyazo.com/d68aad8813d21c333dd ... ebaaa4.mp4
14:56 Krowzin: i need to get into the habit of copying the link instead of the webpage
14:57 Spork Lover: just press shift+F12 when taking pics
14:57 Spork Lover: that looks good
14:57 Spork Lover: btw
14:57 Spork Lover: except for the 1,2 in gray
14:57 Spork Lover: that spacing is weird af
14:57 Spork Lover: xD
14:57 Krowzin: oh
14:57 Krowzin: lol
14:57 Krowzin: didnt see that
14:58 Spork Lover: just go a 90 degree on 7,1
14:58 Krowzin: i should keep it like that xd
14:58 Spork Lover: xd
14:58 Krowzin: what do you mean
14:58 Krowzin: 90
14:58 Spork Lover: eh
14:59 Spork Lover: lemme try to resemble your stream somehow
15:00 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140712
15:00 Spork Lover: that's my interpretation
15:00 Spork Lover: i moved the 7 and gave it an NC
15:00 Spork Lover: 'cause it's the big white tick
15:01 Spork Lover: and the white tick where that's a stream part has an NC too
15:01 Krowzin: where is the 7 in that pic
15:01 Spork Lover: that's the thing I gave an NC
15:01 Spork Lover: it's the big white tick
15:02 Spork Lover: it SHOULD have an NC
15:02 Spork Lover: lol
15:02 Krowzin: the 1?
15:02 Spork Lover: the 1 on the right yup
15:02 Krowzin: oh
15:02 Krowzin: my
15:02 Krowzin: there's no
15:02 Krowzin: drum on it
15:02 Krowzin: xd
15:03 Krowzin: you said to make it a kick slider right
15:03 Spork Lover: not if you made a long stream after with an overlap
15:03 Spork Lover: 'cause then it doesn't work xd
15:03 Spork Lover: 01:04:697 (2,3) - i spaced this in my example to resemble a kickslider instead
15:04 Spork Lover: 'cause then you could technically start the stream where 01:04:518 (1) - (my example) is placed
15:04 Spork Lover: if 01:04:697 (2,3) - was a kick xd
15:04 Spork Lover: if that made sense
15:04 Spork Lover: lol
15:05 Spork Lover: feel free to update whenever
15:05 Spork Lover: and i'll play through again
15:05 Spork Lover: and mention 1-2 more things
15:05 Spork Lover: and then call it a day/irc mod or whatever
15:05 Spork Lover: lol
15:07 Krowzin: im like
15:07 Krowzin: trying to use my brain at 9am to think of a creative way to make this stream
15:07 Krowzin: isnt working out too well
15:08 Spork Lover: gonna send two pics 1 sec
15:09 Krowzin: man
15:09 Krowzin: doormat just that part antijumps
15:09 Krowzin: just made that
15:09 Spork Lover: oh yes
15:09 Krowzin: here i am making stupd strims
15:09 Spork Lover: this is amazing 1 sec
15:09 Krowzin: lol
15:09 Krowzin: colab inc
15:09 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140776 these are the jumps
15:10 Spork Lover: i made the first two notes of the stream a kickslider
15:10 Spork Lover: and...
15:10 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140781 this is the stream
15:10 Spork Lover: the 2nd part is the same spacing as 01:05:768 (2,3) -
15:10 Spork Lover: which makes it a bit more predictable
15:11 Spork Lover: lemme play through that real quick xD
15:11 Spork Lover: with that spacing it didn't work with the slider at 01:05:589 (1) -
15:11 Spork Lover: lol
15:12 Krowzin: sry had to take a bathroom break
15:12 Krowzin: what the heck
15:12 Krowzin: i cant put this in here
15:12 Krowzin: i can try to make it wild like that tho
15:15 Spork Lover: go for it :3
15:15 Spork Lover: tell me when you update
15:15 Spork Lover: then i'll play through after
15:15 Spork Lover: and then i need to make some food
15:16 Spork Lover: i'm starving xD
15:24 Krowzin: okie
15:24 Spork Lover: done?
15:24 Krowzin: yeah
15:24 Spork Lover: update my good sir
15:24 Krowzin: i wish my map was good enough for rank
15:24 Krowzin: it'd be perfect to gd for doormat
15:25 Krowzin: done
15:25 Spork Lover: won't show update button
15:25 Spork Lover: lol
15:25 Spork Lover: osu u slow
15:25 Spork Lover: xd
15:25 Krowzin: oh
15:25 *Krowzin is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1188677 Tomita Miyu, Onishi Saori, Ohzora Naomi, Hanazawa Kana - Gabriel Drop Kick]
15:25 Krowzin: redownload
15:25 Krowzin: new dif
15:26 Spork Lover: oh lmfao
15:26 Spork Lover: i assume fsfs
15:27 Krowzin: yeeeee
15:27 Krowzin: i should slow that slider on the giggle down
15:27 Spork Lover: there's two things i mentioned that you didn't add xd
15:28 Krowzin: wait what
15:28 Spork Lover: 00:50:947 (1) - remove nc
15:28 Krowzin: like ncs?
15:28 Krowzin: ok
15:28 Spork Lover: 00:15:143 (1) - remove nc
15:29 Spork Lover: 00:20:947 (3) - still don't understand this slider
15:29 Spork Lover: lol
15:29 Krowzin: i did that
15:29 Krowzin: idk why it didnt save
15:29 Krowzin: alright
15:29 Krowzin: ill make it like the ones before it
15:29 Krowzin: ;x
15:29 Spork Lover: xddd
15:30 Spork Lover: !savelog
15:30 Spork Lover: there we go
15:30 Spork Lover: lol
15:30 Krowzin: is that stream good?
15:30 Spork Lover: yeah it works great
15:30 Krowzin: nice
15:30 Spork Lover: or else i'd have mentioned something right away
15:30 Spork Lover: xd
15:31 Krowzin: 01:08:625 (1) -
15:31 Krowzin: what do you think about overlapping this
15:31 Krowzin: under 2
15:31 Spork Lover: that's good
15:31 Krowzin: the slider
15:31 Spork Lover: it's an aesthetic thing
15:31 Spork Lover: it's prettier than stuff like 00:28:625 (4,1) -
15:31 Spork Lover: (which I'd advice stacking somehow)
15:32 Spork Lover: same for 00:28:804 (1,4) -
15:32 Krowzin: yeah
15:32 Krowzin: ok
15:33 Spork Lover: 01:10:232 (6,7,8) - can i suggest something stupid here?
15:33 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140921
15:34 Krowzin: lol
15:34 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140926 and then this
15:34 Krowzin: https://i.gyazo.com/bad262e355a4bd9f769 ... 612038.mp4
15:34 Krowzin: dude
15:34 Spork Lover: that works
15:34 Krowzin: i use two monitors so when i click a link it takes me to chrome
15:34 Spork Lover: just switch main screen
15:34 Spork Lover: easy solve
15:34 Krowzin: and my chat is bound to the same key as google help center
15:35 Spork Lover: 01:20:232 (1,1) - extend to blue tick
15:35 Krowzin: ok lemme try this
15:35 Spork Lover: 01:19:875 (2) - change to red
15:35 Spork Lover: (shorten)
15:35 Spork Lover: and that's it
15:37 Krowzin: 01:20:947 (1) -
15:37 Krowzin: what about this
15:37 Krowzin: isnt it weird to not have this one extended but the one before it
15:38 Krowzin: not
15:38 Spork Lover: no, the two sounds very distinct
15:38 Spork Lover: are very*
15:38 Krowzin: seems like im deaf
15:39 Krowzin: 00:25:768 (1) -
15:39 Krowzin: this part is ok?
15:39 Krowzin: you didnt say anything so i assume so
15:39 Spork Lover: this
15:39 Spork Lover: is fine
15:39 Spork Lover: rhythm choise is good
15:40 Spork Lover: 00:46:661 (10,1) - ehem
15:40 Spork Lover: you didn't do that either xD
15:40 Krowzin: do what?
15:41 Spork Lover: look at white tick
15:41 Krowzin: should the curve and nc be on white
15:41 Spork Lover: yes
15:41 Krowzin: can i get away with keeping the curve how it is
15:41 Spork Lover: it's a super easy fix
15:41 Spork Lover: and it'll look the exact same
15:42 Spork Lover: it feels delayed to play if it starts later
15:42 Krowzin: alright fixed
15:42 Spork Lover: nice
15:42 Spork Lover: feel free to update
15:42 Krowzin: you like that stream though/
15:42 Krowzin: completely overmapped
15:42 Spork Lover: it follows vocals doesn't it xd
15:42 Spork Lover: don't have too many issues with it
15:43 Spork Lover: it's not too spaced
15:43 Krowzin: ye i made sure to keep the spacing down
15:43 Krowzin: ok
15:43 Krowzin: updated
15:43 Spork Lover: ok playing it
15:45 Krowzin: i'll have to move that one slider by those anti jumps now too
15:45 Krowzin: acc
15:45 Spork Lover: saw one thing
15:45 Spork Lover: was a whoopsie I thin
15:45 Spork Lover: think
15:45 Krowzin: ono
15:45 Krowzin: the entire map is a whoopsie
15:45 Spork Lover: 01:15:768 (1,3) - switch NC
15:45 Spork Lover: also no
15:46 Spork Lover: the map is not bad at all
15:46 Spork Lover: 00:37:375 (9,1) - switch NC
15:46 Krowzin: a map is good when ur testplayers dont say its shit
15:46 Krowzin: feelsgoodman
15:46 Spork Lover: 00:45:857 (1,2) - switch NC
15:47 Spork Lover: the 2 is the white tick
15:47 Spork Lover: 00:55:411 (1) - this is the whoopsie, don't have to explain this one I think xd
15:47 Krowzin: wait
15:47 Krowzin: 00:45:857 (1) -
15:47 Spork Lover: 01:05:232 (6,1) - switch NC, white tick thing again
15:47 Krowzin: you missed this
15:47 Krowzin: lol
15:48 Krowzin: how
15:48 Krowzin: did you play that?
15:48 Spork Lover: i hit it fine
15:48 Krowzin: :thinking:
15:48 Krowzin: new meta?
15:48 Spork Lover: lemme show something that makes it's easy to see
15:48 Spork Lover: that it's a blue tick
15:48 Krowzin: you see the double circle right
15:49 Krowzin: like
15:49 Krowzin: this aint a 2b map
15:49 Spork Lover: i don't see one
15:49 Spork Lover: lol
15:49 Krowzin: oh god
15:49 Krowzin: wait
15:49 Spork Lover: you probably made one just now
15:49 Spork Lover: lol
15:49 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7140997 this
15:49 Krowzin: its because i changed sv
15:49 Krowzin: nvm my bad
15:49 Spork Lover: makes the blue tick note very easy to notice
15:50 Spork Lover: 00:45:857 (7,1) -
15:50 Spork Lover: on this part
15:50 Krowzin: can i really do spacing like that
15:50 Spork Lover: yes
15:50 Spork Lover: you can
15:50 Spork Lover: it's follow by a white tick note
15:50 Spork Lover: followed
15:50 Spork Lover: *
15:50 Spork Lover: it's basically a tiny jump
15:50 Krowzin: interesting
15:50 Spork Lover: serves no issues
15:51 Krowzin: openning a whole new world of possibilities here
15:51 Spork Lover: it's honestly easier than just switching nc's and stacking
15:51 Krowzin: yeah agreed
15:51 Spork Lover: just make sure you know why you're doing it
15:51 Krowzin: it looks silly
15:51 Spork Lover: in this case it's a lead-in to a stream, since it's blue tick
15:52 Krowzin: yeah i think i've seen those in some ranked maps
15:52 Spork Lover: you see them often
15:52 Spork Lover: when you're even more experienced, you're gonna abuse them
15:52 Spork Lover: lol
15:53 Krowzin: 00:45:857 (1) -
15:53 Krowzin: oh baby
15:53 Krowzin: abuse the streams MMmmmmmmmmm
15:53 Krowzin: 00:45:857 (1) -
15:53 Spork Lover: needs to be a 7
15:53 Spork Lover: it's blue tick
15:53 Spork Lover: xD
15:53 Krowzin: i love that clap sound
15:53 Krowzin: so much
15:53 Krowzin: what needs to be 7
15:54 Spork Lover: the thing you marked 3 times
15:54 Spork Lover: lol
15:54 Spork Lover: it says (1)
15:54 Spork Lover: it shouldn't be nc'ed xd
15:54 Krowzin: how could it be 7
15:54 Spork Lover: basically
15:54 Spork Lover: but yeah
15:54 Spork Lover: if I kept modding now, it'd all be suggestion based, or NC fixes
15:55 Krowzin: 01:13:804 (1,5) -
15:55 Spork Lover: 00:53:804 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - for example this where the two streams are different
15:55 Krowzin: should i flip these two
15:55 Spork Lover: and they could have the same curve
15:55 Krowzin: copypasta
15:55 Krowzin: ?
15:55 Spork Lover: the position? no
15:55 Spork Lover: yeah
15:55 Spork Lover: and then rotate 90 degrees
15:55 Spork Lover: on the streams
15:55 Spork Lover: so it's in the same position
15:55 Spork Lover: but with a curve instead
15:56 Krowzin: dont underestimate the power of a 21* rotation
15:56 Spork Lover: lel xd
15:56 Spork Lover: 01:15:947 (3,4,5) - wanna do the ctrl+g on 4 again xD?
15:57 Spork Lover: idea:
15:57 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7141051
15:57 Spork Lover: and then..
15:57 Spork Lover: 1 sec osu pics take a while zzz
15:58 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7141060
15:58 Spork Lover: that
15:58 Spork Lover: 01:16:839 (1,3) - also switch NC
15:58 Spork Lover: and then add one to 01:16:661 (6) -
15:58 Krowzin: what do you mean switch
15:58 Krowzin: there isnt a nc
15:59 Spork Lover: wut
15:59 Spork Lover: there was on my version lol
15:59 Spork Lover: o well
15:59 Krowzin: are you on
15:59 Krowzin: dfdf
15:59 Krowzin: or w/e
15:59 Spork Lover: ye
15:59 Spork Lover: 01:16:661 (6,3) - nc those
15:59 Krowzin: odd
15:59 Krowzin: hold
15:59 Krowzin: lemme update
16:00 Spork Lover: ok
16:00 Spork Lover: lemme play
16:00 Krowzin: done
16:01 Spork Lover: you forgot the NC switch on that stream aaaa
16:02 Krowzin: o
16:02 Krowzin: RIP
16:02 Spork Lover: 00:45:857 (1,2) -
16:02 Spork Lover: this
16:02 Krowzin: 00:45:857 (7) -
16:02 Krowzin: no nc there?
16:02 Spork Lover: i'd also space it further than what you did
16:02 Spork Lover: yup
16:02 Krowzin: alright
16:02 Spork Lover: and nc the other one
16:03 Spork Lover: 00:45:947 (2) - aka this
16:03 Krowzin: yeye
16:03 Spork Lover: then you know it's white tick
16:03 Spork Lover: 01:05:232 (6,1) - switch NC
16:03 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7141088
16:03 Krowzin: (Y)
16:04 Krowzin: oh hello chrome help center
16:04 Spork Lover: 01:08:625 (1,2) - switch
16:04 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7141094
16:04 Krowzin: same for 00:45:857 (7) -
16:04 Krowzin: ?
16:04 Spork Lover: 01:10:232 (6) - nc
16:04 Krowzin: 01:09:697 (1,2) -
16:04 Krowzin: *
16:05 Spork Lover: you could yes
16:05 Spork Lover: should*
16:05 Krowzin: oh 1/2 jumps right
16:05 Krowzin: oh
16:05 Spork Lover: i use 1,2 jumps if they are consecutive
16:05 Spork Lover: 01:16:661 (4,1) - switch NC
16:06 Spork Lover: 01:17:375 (3) - and add one
16:06 Spork Lover: 01:16:661 (4) - if you change the shape on this so it's a mirror of 01:16:839 (1) -, it's a lot prettier
16:06 Spork Lover: gonna display the nc's too
16:07 Spork Lover: 1 sec
16:07 Krowzin: ok
16:07 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7141105
16:08 Spork Lover: 00:01:661 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - this btw plays a little funky
16:08 Krowzin: should i delete it
16:08 Spork Lover: i can't really come up with something as a suggestion 'cause I would do it completely differently
16:08 Spork Lover: lol
16:08 Spork Lover: completely different*
16:09 Krowzin: i could just make them flat triples
16:09 Krowzin: like no spacing
16:09 Spork Lover: lemme show you what i'd do
16:09 Spork Lover: lol
16:09 Krowzin: or return sliders
16:09 Krowzin: here we go
16:09 Krowzin: into insanity
16:10 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7141119
16:11 Spork Lover: less clicking, more aim
16:11 Krowzin: yeah so just return sliders
16:11 Spork Lover: yeah
16:11 Krowzin: some circles
16:11 Krowzin: alright
16:11 Spork Lover: there's a circle in between every slider
16:11 Spork Lover: and the 1/8 is just a 1/8 from the beginning
16:11 Krowzin: keep the 1/8th slider too?
16:11 Spork Lover: with no circle
16:11 Krowzin: wat
16:11 Krowzin: no way
16:11 Spork Lover: i put it in the middle to avoid choking
16:12 Spork Lover: 'cause it's a choking hazard :^)
16:12 Krowzin: :-(
16:12 Spork Lover: if you make it a small 2-note like before, go for it
16:13 Spork Lover: it's way too fast still to play even with my suggestion LOL
16:14 Krowzin: it isnt mapped in the other set
16:14 Spork Lover: oh it's fine to map it
16:14 Spork Lover: but it's probably better just doing 4-way reverses instead
16:15 Spork Lover: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7141150
16:15 Krowzin: 4-way :O
16:15 Krowzin: i cant even count to 4 zzzzz
16:15 Krowzin: how does that rhythm even work
16:15 Spork Lover: it's passive rhythm
16:15 Krowzin: oh
16:15 Krowzin: thought that was a kick slider
16:15 Spork Lover: nah nah
16:16 Spork Lover: anyway
16:16 Krowzin: should i slow sv
16:16 Krowzin: for the beginning
16:16 Spork Lover: it's already slow enough imo
16:16 Krowzin: ok
16:16 Spork Lover: but erm
16:17 Spork Lover: basically all I can find now that's a straight up issue is the NC'ing in some parts
16:17 Spork Lover: the rhythm seems to be fine when you've figured out something for the first 2 secs xd
16:17 Krowzin: alright
16:17 Spork Lover: can i add this to website for kudo? :3
16:17 Spork Lover: havn't had kudo in like
16:17 Spork Lover: 3 months
16:17 Spork Lover: LOL
16:17 Krowzin: definitely

I feel that cs 3.4 might be too large for this map
00:06:661 (2) - A slider with this much of a curve acts as a hold slider rather than something you have to follow, i would suggest widening the angle
00:14:161 (1,2,3,4,1) - curve this up a little more maybe?
00:44:161 (1,2,3,4,1) - I feel a blanket here isnt needed
00:57:911 (4,5) - Blanket is off
01:07:375 (1,2) - ^
01:08:804 (1,2) - ^
01:18:089 (4,5) - I would maybe do something like this http://puu.sh/tyqFd/fe01bf31c3.jpg
Your 1/4 gaps seem kinda huge to me, just my opinon