Yasunori Shiono - Jimmy and Tommy [CatchTheBeat|OsuMania] · forum

Weber

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Weber 2017-01-26T17:52:54+00:00

Eraser wrote:
hi again. m4m.

1|2|3|4

[EZ]
00:01:476 - Ascending sound. use 1-2-3-4 or 4-3-2-1. there is no room here to accomodate for the notes surrounding this pattern's pitch, this is the best alternative
00:03:462 (3462|2,3710|1) - move 1 col to the left ^
00:03:710 (3710|1) - move to 1 ^
00:18:850 - ln to the next white. there's no held note here at all
00:21:331 (21331|2,21580|3) - move 1 col to the right ^
00:33:245 (33245|1,33493|2) - ^ ^

[NM]
00:03:462 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7154152 or if you want less challenge http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7154157 read below
00:05:447 - why is this not a double?you could also ask why is 00:05:944 (5944|2,5944|3) - a double at all, its for emphasis and I don't want to overload this diff with doubles just because I can, trying to keep it relatively simple, i find that 2,1,2,1,2 and 1,1,2,1,2 patterns work really well for this song

ok, I see from here on 00:04:951 - you used those sounds to map doubles. I do not recommend this. Because I personally think that the percussion is the one that should be emphasized. The high sound on the doubles is more prominent than the percussion therefore the double notes go there

That's all.
Don't forget http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5774164

Sorry, all denied, thanks for the mod though!

Raveille

787 posts

Joined February 2012

Raveille 2017-01-27T04:17:09+00:00

oh boy mod before me got all denied time to do the same TOO WEBER DENY MY BODY

|1|2|3|4|

EZ

00:15:871 (15871|1,16368|2) - move these one column to the right for PR
00:25:799 (25799|0,26047|2) - I would ctrl+j to have some PR too

NM

00:26:792 - there should be a double so add a note at 1

If these 3 suggestions are denied LOL well it will be so no kudos if so :p

Good luck ranking this ABSOLUTELY DIGUSTING PP MAP OMGHOW CAN YOU WEBER I AHD SO MUCH FAITH IN YO AND NOW ITHE FAITH IS ALL GONE OMGDFGNIODFNGI

Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Weber 2017-01-27T07:47:56+00:00

Raveille wrote:

oh boy mod before me got all denied time to do the same TOO WEBER DENY MY BODY

|1|2|3|4|

EZ
00:15:871 (15871|1,16368|2) - move these one column to the right for PR sure
00:25:799 (25799|0,26047|2) - I would ctrl+j to have some PR toochanged this pattern to something better
fixed alot of pitch issues that I found when I had another look through thanks to those

NM
00:26:792 - there should be a double so add a note at 1denied but i've decided to remove the double from the other section like this since I don't believe it fits in a section as dense as a 1/4 roll in a NM

If these 3 suggestions are denied LOL well it will be so no kudos if so :p

Good luck ranking this ABSOLUTELY DIGUSTING PP MAP OMGHOW CAN YOU WEBER I AHD SO MUCH FAITH IN YO AND NOW ITHE FAITH IS ALL GONE OMGDFGNIODFNGI

Thanks for the mod! Updated.

DustMoon

430 posts

Joined June 2016

DustMoon 2017-02-05T14:01:05+00:00

Hi~Weber i think you need mania GD,so i make a (DustMoon vs Weber's HD) difficult. i hope you added this map. Thx.

DustMoon vs Weber's HD

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Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Weber 2017-02-05T15:21:39+00:00

DustMoon wrote:

Hi~Weber i think you need mania GD,so i make a (DustMoon vs Weber's HD) difficult. i hope you added this map. Thx.

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While I do really appreciate the gesture, I think I will pass on adding it to the set as it's too similar to my NM difficulty in structure, and I feel as though a HD isn't really necessary for a map this simple. And also I already have a mania BN about to check it.

Thank you so much for the thought though. <3

DustMoon

430 posts

Joined June 2016

DustMoon 2017-02-06T04:02:54+00:00

Weber wrote:

DustMoon wrote:

Hi~Weber i think you need mania GD,so i make a (DustMoon vs Weber's HD) difficult. i hope you added this map. Thx.

DustMoon vs Weber's HD

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While I do really appreciate the gesture, I think I will pass on adding it to the set as it's too similar to my NM difficulty in structure, and I feel as though a HD isn't really necessary for a map this simple. And also I already have a mania BN about to check it.

Thank you so much for the thought though. <3

thank you for your reply

tuandi

221 posts

Joined March 2014

tuandi 2017-02-06T10:24:48+00:00

NM REQS FROM ME....

GENERAL

first ur beatmap is funny short insert song

sacond all my mods is just opinion and suggestion, so u can approve to ur beatmap or not

last.... GANBATTE for ur map

NM

i mean this diffs is already cool, maybe i just want to give opinion
-00:00:484 u can delete 1 note here to fill the dub like your pattern
-00:05:447 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like
-00:17:360 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like
-00:21:331 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like
-00:33:245 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like
.
quote: ur diffs is perfectly good, i feel confuse to mod it. i hope my opinion is useful. see ya

Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Weber 2017-02-08T02:02:33+00:00

tuandi wrote:
NM
i mean this diffs is already cool, maybe i just want to give opinion
-00:00:484 u can delete 1 note here to fill the dub like your pattern
-00:05:447 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like
-00:17:360 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like
-00:21:331 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like
-00:33:245 u can add 1 note in bar 4, if u like

Gotta reject all since I prefer it as it is, although I do see your point, thanks anyway!

Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Weber 2017-02-10T05:58:40+00:00

metadata confirmed by kwan, check description LETS GO

Kawawa

Kawawa 2017-02-13T05:56:49+00:00

IRC

14:41 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1187623 Yasunori Shiono - Jimmy and Tommy [EZ]]
14:41 *Weber is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1187623 Yasunori Shiono - Jimmy and Tommy [EZ]]
14:41 Kawawa: honestly, It has no problem.
14:41 Weber: cool
14:43 Kawawa: Because here's no playable issue, I can't touch anything. but If you can make some various patterns, It will be fine than now.
14:43 Weber: alright
14:44 Kawawa: 00:01:476 (1476|1,1724|2,1973|1,2221|2) -  00:21:331 (21331|1,21580|2,21828|1,22076|2) - 00:33:245 (33245|1,33493|2,33741|1,33989|2) -  those three.
14:44 Weber: yeah sure I'll try to make some alternatives that still work well with the pitch
14:45 Kawawa: Pitch is not a "rule"
14:45 Weber: yeah but I prefer pitch mapping since I play alot of piano :P
14:45 Weber: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7311557
14:46 Weber: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7311559
14:46 Weber: some alternatives
14:46 Kawawa: of course, If the map can focus on "pitch" as possble, It's better to quality. 
14:46 Kawawa: but, sometimes It made mapper mindblock for make patterns.
14:46 Weber: yep
14:46 Weber: thats fair
14:46 Kawawa: so It's not important. 
14:46 Kawawa: :)
14:46 Weber: :)
14:46 Kawawa: yeah, looks good.
14:47 Weber: so thats all for EZ?
14:47 Kawawa: yes
14:47 *Weber is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1205447 Yasunori Shiono - Jimmy and Tommy [NM]]
14:47 Kawawa: sorry. I really can't touch anything on the map.
14:47 Weber: its cool
14:47 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1205447 Yasunori Shiono - Jimmy and Tommy [NM]]
14:47 Kawawa: First, disable the widescreen support
14:48 Weber: done
14:49 Kawawa: hmm I think It's okay.
14:49 Weber: :D
14:49 Kawawa: here, just a suggestion 
14:50 Kawawa: just avoid this hammer patterns 00:03:462 (3462|1,3710|1) - 
14:50 Kawawa: I saw only this one you made it hammer.
14:50 Kawawa: on whole chart.
14:50 Kawawa: 00:03:710 (3710|1) - move to 3 00:03:958 (3958|2) - move to 1 (column 1234)
14:51 Weber: looks good
14:51 Weber: applied
14:51 Kawawa: alright.
14:51 Kawawa: update the map
14:52 Kawawa: but I can't post bubble Icon first. because recently rule changed 
14:53 Weber: i've got the CTB QAT ready to qualify it, i'll get him to post that the CTB diffs are fine
14:53 Kawawa: so I will post mania Icon to nominate a mode
14:53 Weber: alright
14:53 Weber: thank you so much! :D
14:53 Kawawa: no problem, I did not anything.
14:53 Kawawa: ;w;
14:53 Kawawa: updated?
14:53 Weber: yep it's updated

Confirmed the "Mania mapset"
There's no problem to me.
nominated

Good luck!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-02-14T21:12:09+00:00

Weber trying to take my place as king of 30 second songs. I can't let that happen, I have to do something.

and by something i mean help the cause

[Cup]

00:12:893 (2) - The sound change here is noticably less than to 1, so I'd say a slightly lower distance to this'd be nice, maybe just try x:96?
00:19:346 (3) - Bit of extra emphasis for the high pitch here couldn't hurt, maybe try x:80.
00:32:252 (1) - Definitely stronger than 2, this deserves the higher distance more, do x:272 on it.

[Salad]

00:02:469 (1,2,3) - Increase it to x:128 to make those two movements dashes, this current distance is pretty ambiguous.
00:06:440 (1) - Either increase or decrease, I'm not sure if you intended this to be a dash or not. I'd recommend decreasing it, as the sound doesn't really seem strong enough for a dash in a salad to me, x:368 would be good.
00:10:411 (1) - Again, I'm not sure if this is meant to be a dash or not, but I'd say probably not considering the strength of the note, maybe try ctrl+g and x:384?
00:12:397 (1) - Try x:416 on it to add a dash, current distance is very ambiguous and possible to do without dashing.
00:14:382 (1) - A tiny bit uncomfortable as it is now in my opinion, maybe try a reduction to x:160?
00:16:368 (1,2) - I really think a dash would fit well to this, maybe try moving this section to x:160 as well.
00:18:353 (1) - A bit too strong for a dash to me, try reducing it very slightly, x:384 would feel great.
00:19:346 (2) - Distance to 3 is a little uncomfortable right now, a slight reduction to x:112 would be nice.
00:22:324 (1,2) - Adding a dash to this section could feel good for the strong sound on 1 here, x:64, maybe?
00:26:295 (1) - A bit ambiguous distance as it is right now, but I think it sounds better without a dash, try ctrl+g followed by x:128.
00:28:281 (1,2) - 1 is a pretty strong sound here too, the lack of dash really threw me off. x:96 would feel a lot better and sound nicer too.
00:32:252 (1,2) - Lack of dash to this sounds very strange considering the strength of this sound, x:352 would be cool.
00:34:237 (1) - Very strong dash, could do with a slight reduction, try x:128 on it, feels quite a bit more comfortable.
00:35:230 (2) - Non-dash distance to 3 is pretty uncomfortable, try decreasing it very slightly, x:400 on this slider would work nicely.

Alright, done.

Deif

Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon

3,564 posts

Joined April 2010

Deif 2017-02-14T22:22:26+00:00

- Magic Bomb -

Weber trying to take my place as king of 30 second songs. I can't let that happen, I have to do something.

and by something i mean help the cause

[Cup]

00:12:893 (2) - The sound change here is noticably less than to 1, so I'd say a slightly lower distance to this'd be nice, maybe just try x:96? (Done)
00:19:346 (3) - Bit of extra emphasis for the high pitch here couldn't hurt, maybe try x:80. (Done)
00:32:252 (1) - Definitely stronger than 2, this deserves the higher distance more, do x:272 on it. (Done, also for all the correspondant mirrored patterns)

[Salad]

00:02:469 (1,2,3) - Increase it to x:128 to make those two movements dashes, this current distance is pretty ambiguous. (Done)
00:06:440 (1) - Either increase or decrease, I'm not sure if you intended this to be a dash or not. I'd recommend decreasing it, as the sound doesn't really seem strong enough for a dash in a salad to me, x:368 would be good. (Wanted to have a bigger distance on that one so increased it instead, but I hope it's not too much for a Salad)
00:10:411 (1) - Again, I'm not sure if this is meant to be a dash or not, but I'd say probably not considering the strength of the note, maybe try ctrl+g and x:384? (Agreed, followed the suggestion as you proposed)
00:12:397 (1) - Try x:416 on it to add a dash, current distance is very ambiguous and possible to do without dashing.(I swear everything else below this line is fixed, but I can copypaste "Done" everytime if that's okay)
00:14:382 (1) - A tiny bit uncomfortable as it is now in my opinion, maybe try a reduction to x:160?
00:16:368 (1,2) - I really think a dash would fit well to this, maybe try moving this section to x:160 as well.
00:18:353 (1) - A bit too strong for a dash to me, try reducing it very slightly, x:384 would feel great.
00:19:346 (2) - Distance to 3 is a little uncomfortable right now, a slight reduction to x:112 would be nice.
00:22:324 (1,2) - Adding a dash to this section could feel good for the strong sound on 1 here, x:64, maybe?
00:26:295 (1) - A bit ambiguous distance as it is right now, but I think it sounds better without a dash, try ctrl+g followed by x:128.
00:28:281 (1,2) - 1 is a pretty strong sound here too, the lack of dash really threw me off. x:96 would feel a lot better and sound nicer too.
00:32:252 (1,2) - Lack of dash to this sounds very strange considering the strength of this sound, x:352 would be cool.
00:34:237 (1) - Very strong dash, could do with a slight reduction, try x:128 on it, feels quite a bit more comfortable.
00:35:230 (2) - Non-dash distance to 3 is pretty uncomfortable, try decreasing it very slightly, x:400 on this slider would work nicely.

Alright, done.

You expected a red wall of text on the Salad, but you'd rather wait for the next beatmap :^)

Cup

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Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Weber 2017-02-15T01:06:41+00:00

Updated.

MBomb

MBomb 2017-02-18T19:38:39+00:00

hello here to recheck

[Salad]

00:06:936 (2) - Maybe a bit far after the previous dash, try reducing to x:192.
00:20:835 (2) - This one is the same, maybe just try x:240.
00:22:820 (2) - Same here, x:320 would feel nicer.

[EZ]

00:01:476 (1476|1,1724|2,1973|1,2221|2) - seems a bit of a weird pattern with the pitches as they are now, because the 4th note is notably higher pitch than second, maybe try 1,2,1,3 here instead of 2,3,2,3?
00:14:382 (14382|3,14879|2) - Here for pitch, 3,2 would sound better than 4,3, at least to my ears.
00:17:857 (17857|0) - Definitely sounds a lot better on 2 here.

[NM]

00:02:469 (2469|3) - Sounds like there should be 2 notes at this point given the previous timeline, a note on 2 sounds good to me.

Alright, done.

Weber

1,254 posts

Joined May 2015

Topic Starter

Weber 2017-02-18T23:11:59+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
hello here to recheck

[EZ]

00:01:476 (1476|1,1724|2,1973|1,2221|2) - seems a bit of a weird pattern with the pitches as they are now, because the 4th note is notably higher pitch than second, maybe try 1,2,1,3 here instead of 2,3,2,3? This section has always been a bit of a compromise in pitch since the music has a 6 note ascending roll, making it difficult to be pitch accurate, I feel as though 2,3,2,3 is a better alternative as it allows for symmetry at 00:03:462 - as well as allowing 00:00:980 (980|0,1476|1) - these two notes to be pitch accurate while your suggestion would have them on the same note which I think is much more noticeable than the 2,3,2,3.
00:14:382 (14382|3,14879|2) - Here for pitch, 3,2 would sound better than 4,3, at least to my ears. The reason this is 4,3 is to prevent 00:14:879 (14879|2,15871|1) - These two notes which are different pitch not to be on the same column. I will however Ctrl-G these two: 00:14:879 (14879|2,15871|1) - to correct the pitch a little.
00:17:857 (17857|0) - Definitely sounds a lot better on 2 here. Sure, done.

[NM]

00:02:469 (2469|3) - Sounds like there should be 2 notes at this point given the previous timeline, a note on 2 sounds good to me. Sure, note added to 1, works fine.

Alright, done.

Thanks for the re-check!

Deif

Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon

3,564 posts

Joined April 2010

Deif 2017-02-20T11:26:39+00:00

All suggestions applied!

Salad

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