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Roddie
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, May 18, 2012 at 11:56:00 PM

Artist: Linkin Park
Title: In The End
Tags: hybrid theory rap metal alternative narakucrimson hybrid579
BPM: 105.14
Filesize: 3915kb
Play Time: 03:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.6 stars, 148 notes)
  2. Hard (4.87 stars, 363 notes)
  3. Naraku's Insane (4.99 stars, 408 notes)
  4. Normal (3.1 stars, 210 notes)
Download: Linkin Park - In The End
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Ready for modding.

Many thanks to narakucrimson for his guest difficulty. :)

Enjoy, peeps.

06/28-Accepted JauiPlaY's mod.

07/01-Accepted senaya's mod.

07/07-Accepted KuraiPettan's mod.
HP bar added. Many thanks to gonzvlo for letting me borrow it. :D

08/05-Accepted lovhin456's mod.
The "scorecolor" png file has been uploaded with a different color. Thanks, lovhin! (:

10/4-Accepted NatsumeRin's mod.
Accepted Bobo's mod.
The "score-ki", "score-kidanger" and "score-kidanger" png files are uploaded.

02/05-Added applause.mp3

02/06-Accepted Kei's mod.
"lp" removed from the tags.

02/12-Accepted Scorpiour's mod.

02/17-Accepted -Bakari-'s mod.

02/25-Accepted Yasora-chan's mod.
-Accepted ouranhshc's mod.
-scorebar-bg, colour, ki, kidanger and kidanger2 are removed.

05/15-Accepted wcx19911123's mod.
Accepted Kat25's mod.

05/17-Accepted Leorda's mod.

05/18-Accepted Kenezz's mod.
PotsBreaker
Linkin Park!!!
star.
RIP95
Good map. Star for u.
Also, i think you'll be better to change Slider Tick Rate to 1.
narakucrimson
Ok, I finished this!

Download: Linkin Park - In The End (Roddie) [Naraku's Insane].osu

I don't think I'll have the time to do a Storyboard, sorry man D:
Topic Starter
Roddie

narakucrimson wrote:

I don't think I'll have the time to do a Storyboard, sorry man D:
It's perfectly fine, naraku. ^^ We didn't need one anyway. xD
JauiPlaY
hihi~ :)
just some suggestions:

[General]
imo you need a slidertick.wav. for some sliders, for example, 00:21:425(1) in easy diff, the hitsound is weird for me.
also i'm guessing the normal clap do not fit the song at all, maybe you would like to find another one?
and, for all diffs, how about to make a kiai burst at 02:29:265?

[Easy]
01:13:931(3) - normal finish?
01:51:027(2) - new combo? if you change it then do forget to remove new combo from the next note.
02:10:431(4) - same as 01:13:931(3).
02:19:563(1) - the sound volume is too loud...
02:24:699(1) - starts at 02:24:414?
02:42:962(1) - starts at 02:42:677?
02:48:099(3) - same as 01:51:027(2).
03:06:361(1) - starts at 03:05:933?

[Normal]
01:03:087(x) - add a note with clap?
01:13:931(4) - normal finish?
02:06:722(6) - weird...move it to 02:07:007?
02:09:861(2) - same as 01:13:931(4).
02:19:563(1) - the sound volume is too loud...
02:22:987(x) - add a note with clap?
02:41:250(x) - add a note with clap?
02:42:391(x) - ^
03:06:361(1) - starts at 03:05:933?

[Hard]
00:55:240(4,5,6) - decrease the sound volume.
00:57:237(4) - i guess a slider here and ends on 00:57:380. if you change it then do forget to add clap on the end of the slider.
01:13:931(4) - normal finish?
01:50:028(4,5,6) - same as 00:55:240(4,5,6).
02:10:003(4) - clap on the beginning of the slider.
02:11:002(5) - same as 01:13:931(4).
02:19:563(3) - the sound volume is too loud...
03:06:361(1) - starts at 03:05:933?

[Naraku's Insane]
why different offset from other 3 diffs?
00:59:221(3) - clap on the beginning of the slider.
01:08:352(3) - ^
01:13:346(3) - normal finish?
01:42:881(4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - only whistle here? imo they need more clap.
02:03:141(3) - clap on the beginning of the slider.
02:10:989(3) - same as 01:13:346(3).
02:19:692(2,3,4) - the sound volume is too loud...
02:43:233(1) - starts at 02:43:091?
03:06:347(1) - starts at 03:05:919?

good luck!
so
star~
narakucrimson

JauiPlaY wrote:

[Naraku's Insane]
why different offset from other 3 diffs? Lol I don't know why this happened
00:59:221(3) - clap on the beginning of the slider.Alright, sounds fine.
01:08:352(3) - ^
01:13:346(3) - normal finish? No, this is fine with a clap.
01:42:881(4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - only whistle here? imo they need more clap. Wtf? No, never. Whistles give this the flow it needs.
02:03:141(3) - clap on the beginning of the slider. As before, ok. Good thing you didn't forget to mention this.
02:10:989(3) - same as 01:13:346(3). Err... Why would I? I did this in the end of the last kiai so for consistency alone, this is fine.
02:19:692(2,3,4) - the sound volume is too loud... No, it's not. I wanted to emphasize using, precisely, something loud.
02:43:233(1) - starts at 02:43:091? Well, I guess it won't hurt to apply this
03:06:347(1) - starts at 03:05:919? 03:06:076 sounds better to me.
Ok, here you go!

Download: Linkin Park - In The End (Roddie) [Naraku's Insane].osu
Kola
Star :3
senaya
Hello.

[General]
offset seems to be late, i'm not pr0 but something around -10ms i guess. anyway, check again.

[Naraku's insane]
00:22:139 (4,1,2,3,4) - are you following lyrics here? i don't see why you need (2) here.
00:29:130 (2,3,4) - make it a pattern like this http://puu.sh/2Xt9?
00:32:126 - nothing here, but there's a word swings  there.
are you following lyrics before and then changing to harmonics to make a good-looking pattern?
01:44:607 (1,4) - claps at these? if yes, remove finish at (4)
02:10:717 (2) - why clap here? try without it.
02:19:563 (1,2,3,4) - i'd add some inheriting sections to play with volume of each circle here.
03:03:793 (1,2,3) - this looks like a smile D:

[Hard]
00:34:266 (2) - change like this http://puu.sh/2XwE?
02:09:575 (3,4) - why not make these two with claps like previous similar sliders and remove clap from 02:10:431 (1)?
03:06:076 (1) - make the end of it with 10% volume?

[Normal]
this diff has some nazi-1-grid-off circles, like 00:35:122 (7,8,9) but i don't like to nazi,
so look through the diff yourself if you want and fix them only if you think it's needed.

01:48:744 (4) - finish here and also finish at start of 01:49:315 (5)?

Loved this song at some point of my life. Nice to hear it again.
Topic Starter
Roddie

senaya wrote:

Hello.

[General]
offset seems to be late, i'm not pr0 but something around -10ms i guess. anyway, check again. Fixed. Thanks for checking out the timing.

[Naraku's insane]
00:22:139 (4,1,2,3,4) - are you following lyrics here? i don't see why you need (2) here.
00:29:130 (2,3,4) - make it a pattern like this http://puu.sh/2Xt9?
00:32:126 - nothing here, but there's a word swings  there.
are you following lyrics before and then changing to harmonics to make a good-looking pattern?
01:44:607 (1,4) - claps at these? if yes, remove finish at (4)
02:10:717 (2) - why clap here? try without it.
02:19:563 (1,2,3,4) - i'd add some inheriting sections to play with volume of each circle here.
03:03:793 (1,2,3) - this looks like a smile D:

I'll leave this up to him.

[Hard]
00:34:266 (2) - change like this http://puu.sh/2XwE? Hmm... Good idea. Now it's changed.
02:09:575 (3,4) - why not make these two with claps like previous similar sliders and remove clap from 02:10:431 (1)? Nah.
03:06:076 (1) - make the end of it with 10% volume? I'll just adjust this to 15%.

[Normal]
this diff has some nazi-1-grid-off circles, like 00:35:122 (7,8,9) but i don't like to nazi,
so look through the diff yourself if you want and fix them only if you think it's needed.
Fixed.
01:48:744 (4) - finish here and also finish at start of 01:49:315 (5)? Nah.

Loved this song at some point of my life. Nice to hear it again.
Thanks for the mod, man!
Kurai
Here is your mod ;)

General
  1. Using black slider border is not a goo idea in the way that they can be hidden by the background like that :
Easy
  1. Would not it be fluider with AR 3?
  2. 00:17:991 (1) - This slider doen't start on a good spot, it feels late, start it 1/2 earlier ?
  3. 03:06:351 (1) - Why don't you start this slider 1/2 earlier like the other difficulties ?
Naraku's Insane
  1. This difficulty doesn't have the same preview point as the other difficultues, via notepad, change the preview point to 54241ms
  2. This difficulty has 408 unsnapped objects. It's noticeable even without the AImod
  3. 00:27:703 (3,4) - These circles are too much offscreen and (4) is hided by the lifebar
  4. 00:33:838 (4,6,1) - Offscreen too, even if it's less than the previous circles. But avoid object who are out the playfield, it's not fun to play, especially at the top border because of the lifebar. and If 50% of a circle is out of the playfield, it's unrankable.
  5. 00:41:828 (1) - This small jump is not appropriate, it is more confusing than anything else
  6. 00:42:970 (3) - This one too. Flip horizontally (3) and (4) to fix
  7. 01:02:231 (4) - TOO much out from the playfield and more than 1/4 of the circle is hidden by the lifebar
  8. 01:52:454 (5,6) - Offscreen again >.<
  9. 02:10:717 (2) - Again
Mmh... That's all I guess

I don't star till some unrankable issues are fixed.
narakucrimson

senaya wrote:

[Naraku's insane]
00:22:139 (4,1,2,3,4) - are you following lyrics here? i don't see why you need (2) here. I don't see why not. The point here is giving continuity to the action, so that the absence of (2) doesn't break the flow.
00:29:130 (2,3,4) - make it a pattern like this http://puu.sh/2Xt9? I actually did that pattern based on the mini jump, which I like a lot, so I'll keep it for now :)
00:32:126 - nothing here, but there's a word swings  there.
are you following lyrics before and then changing to harmonics to make a good-looking pattern? Yes, I am :D Also, when "swings" ends, the slider takes the form of the trail of a swinging pendulum >w<
01:44:607 (1,4) - claps at these? if yes, remove finish at (4) Added the clap at (1), cince it sounds cool. However, I kept the finish at (4)
02:10:717 (2) - why clap here? try without it. Yes, it sounds better indeed
02:19:563 (1,2,3,4) - i'd add some inheriting sections to play with volume of each circle here. Sure! Sounds good :D
03:03:793 (1,2,3) - this looks like a smile D: LOLOLOL subliminal message
And as for Kurai's mod:

KuraiPettan wrote:

Naraku's Insane
  1. This difficulty doesn't have the same preview point as the other difficultues, via notepad, change the preview point to 54241ms No need for the notepad~
  2. This difficulty has 408 unsnapped objects. It's noticeable even without the AImod And I don't really care xD Not everything has to be snapped, and I placed EVERYTHING thinking about how it would flow, so will keep my spacing for now.
  3. 00:27:703 (3,4) - These circles are too much offscreen and (4) is hided by the lifebar None of those are offscreen - being offscreen in the editor doesn't mean it's offscreen while playing -, and I really don't mind having (4) a little overlapped by the bar (it's not unrakable or anything)
  4. 00:33:838 (4,6,1) - Offscreen too, even if it's less than the previous circles. But avoid object who are out the playfield, it's not fun to play, especially at the top border because of the lifebar. and If 50% of a circle is out of the playfield, it's unrankable. AGAIN, none of those are offscreen, and this is how (1) looks, NOT being overlapped by the bar.
  5. 00:41:828 (1) - This small jump is not appropriate, it is more confusing than anything else I don't agree, but I'll keep this in mind, and change it if more people complain :)
  6. 00:42:970 (3) - This one too. Flip horizontally (3) and (4) to fix Mmm, no, because if I did, the jump between (3) and (4) would make even less sense.
  7. 01:02:231 (4) - TOO much out from the playfield and more than 1/4 of the circle is hidden by the lifebar WAIT do you use a custom skin? That might be the problem, it's almost not overlapped with the default skin (the one I use). Maybe it would be a good idea to force the default lifebar...
  8. 01:52:454 (5,6) - Offscreen again >.< What I said before D:
  9. 02:10:717 (2) - Again Again
Will check that bar thingy with Roddie on irc

Download: Linkin Park - In The End (Roddie) [Naraku's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
Roddie

KuraiPettan wrote:

Here is your mod ;)

General
  1. Using black slider border is not a goo idea in the way that they can be hidden by the background like that :
    ^I put in a different color.
Easy
  1. Would not it be fluider with AR 3? Okay.
  2. 00:17:991 (1) - This slider doen't start on a good spot, it feels late, start it 1/2 earlier ? Uh... I'm sure it's fine.
  3. 03:06:351 (1) - Why don't you start this slider 1/2 earlier like the other difficulties ? Okay, okay. xD
Thanks for the mod, Kurai!
Kurai

narakucrimson wrote:

KuraiPettan wrote:

Naraku's Insane
  1. This difficulty has 408 unsnapped objects. It's noticeable even without the AImod And I don't really care xD Not everything has to be snapped, and I placed EVERYTHING thinking about how it would flow, so will keep my spacing for now.
Everything has to be correctly snapped, maybe you have misunderstood me.

Rules wrote:

Your map must be perfectly timed. This means that your BPM and offset are spot-on, sliders end when they should, notes are generally following a recognizable rhythm (such as the lyrics or drums) which is comprehensible by a player, and that there are no unsnapped notes (you can check this by running AIMod (shortcut ctrl+shift+a) in the editor).
It was surely due to an offset change and the objects were not correctly replaced on their ticks.
Anyhow, it has been fixed so ~

narakucrimson wrote:

KuraiPettan wrote:

  1. 00:27:703 (3,4) - These circles are too much offscreen and (4) is hidden by the lifebar None of those are offscreen - being offscreen in the editor doesn't mean it's offscreen while playing -, and I really don't mind having (4) a little overlapped by the bar (it's not unrakable or anything)
  2. 01:02:231 (4) - TOO much out from the playfield and more than 1/4 of the circle is hidden by the lifebar WAIT do you use a custom skin? That might be the problem, it's almost not overlapped with the default skin (the one I use). Maybe it would be a good idea to force the default lifebar...
When I say a circle is offscreen, I mean that it is too close from one border. It's just that I reall hate when objects are too close from the lifebar or from a border. But maybe it's just me ;__;. And yes I use a custom lifeberbar. But I tought It was smaller than the default one, but I was wrong I will use the default lifebar now and I will surely not mod offscreen objects like that anymore even if I don't like them ...
Thanks ^_^"

As all objects are correctly snapped now, I guess I can star~
Bobo_old
Star~ :D

In the end it doesn't even matter how many stars it gets.
Cos in the End it'll be ranked. XD
PsychoSkill
lala star
narakucrimson
Ahhh, yeah! I misunderstood you, Kurai. My ampologies~

I guess Roddie did it for me lol

And about the bar, you don't need to mod with the default one - in fact, it's better if you don't. If the mapper has done everything so that it fits perfectly well with the default skin but hasn't forced the default bar on the map, then it's something you can mention on your mod :P

Sorry for that misunderstanding >_<
Magicphoenix
Go rank it already
narakucrimson
Come on Rodde, let's get this ranked once and for all xD

EDIT: I saw a slider that was out of place, so I put it back in place xD also, I did two minor fixes n.n

Download: Linkin Park - In The End (Roddie) [Naraku's Insane].osu
lovhin456
Hi! Let's go ~

General;
- Try these colors please ~
Combo1 : 79,113,112
Combo2 : 169,24,24
Combo3 : 102,73,114
SliderBorder : 255,255,255
and yes, slider border white please, because it looks kinda ugly without a custom gray hitcircle overlay ):

Skin;
- Purple doesn't look to great there, I recommend this red, yes I'm picky like that (:
http://puu.sh/40Zq

Easy;
- 00:55:658 >> New combo for emphasis on chorus! then remove new combo on next slider
- 00:58:512 >> Remove new combo ?

Normal;
- 00:21:415 (1~7) >> Might be hard ;/
- 01:12:209 (3) >> Sounds better here imo
- 01:23:623 (1~7) >> Might be hard ;~;
- 02:05:285 (1~7) >> ^
- 02:47:518 >> New combo for emphasis! or not ?
- 002:56:079 (2,3,4) >> Mix into a slider ?
- 03:04:069 >> Move (2) here ?

Hard;
- 02:00:862 >> Start the slider here instead ?
- 02:37:388 >> Add note ?

Naraku's Insane;
- 00:32:554 >> End here ?
- 00:32:839 >> Add a note
- 00:54:955 >> ^ maybe
- 01:37:473 >> ^
- 02:10:574 >> Add note here and on the next blue tick too
- 03:02:224 >> Add note ?
- 03:03:793 (1,2,3,4) >> Surprise! Clown face (o: !!
- 03:05:791 >> Normal finish better ?

* Awesome, star (o: !
Topic Starter
Roddie
Thanks for the mod, lovhin! ;) And thanks for giving the scorecolor a different color. :)
zsr123
like this song :)
can I make a taiko diff ?

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NatsumeRin
[General]
Nice song choice...
BPM 105.140, offset 16865. Maybe not very accurate but should be fine enough.
Naraku's Insane, who is Naraku? (check tags) Add narakucrimson to tags.Also if i don't remember it wrong, it's in the album <Hybrid Theory>, so add that to tags too.
why your HP bar is so short?

I feel it's really not so good when i hear the clap pace is broke again and again in several places . If you want to use that clap you should arrange your beats partly based on it, if you miss many it sounds really not like a constant drum beat.

[Easy]
02:09:851 - i think you should start the soft hitsounds from here, could add whistle at (2)'s beginning and repeat point. remove the clap if you do so.
02:19:553 (1) - too loud
02:24:404 (1) - start 1/2 later.

[Normal]
01:12:209 - add a note here, it's important (clap)
01:23:623 (1,3) - don't forget clap at the beginning
01:46:737 & 01:47:878 - add notes if you want
02:05:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the combo is a little long...?
02:09:851 (2) - same suggestion as Easy, start soft hitsounds section here.
02:54:937 - add a note
03:04:069 - add a note

[Hard]
00:32:699 (1) - the vocal is there but i think it's better to move it 1/4 later because it's the place are being expected imo.
00:34:554 - the clap miss sounds really weird.
00:52:960 - should add a note if you want to follow the vocal
01:24:778 - clap miss
01:27:060 - ^
01:32:625 - should be a note here?
01:33:196 (2,3,4) - this looks not so good, why not copy&paste (2) as a (4) and keeps the same spacing?
02:22:135 (1,2,3,4) - you could just use 4 1/2 slider here, lower the volume if you don't need the sliderend sound, but 2 & 4's end could keep your clap pace.

[Naraku's Insane]
very nice diff.
02:42:391 (3,4) - the only thing i'd like to point out is her...i don't think this 1/4 makes sense... the long "know" is obviously start from the red line... so what's this for? if just for the placement, i think you may doing in a wrong way...
well another thing @Roddie: There's several soft-sliderwhistle used in this diff but i think it's unintentional, so you may want to add a muted soft-sliderwhistle.wav file in your folder, it's easier than fixing them one by one.
lovhin456
no kudosu
Holy monkeys! I totally forgot to say in my mod this
Skin;
- You need to add a score-ki, score-kidanger and score-kidanger2 to complete the set for the scorebar
I suggest to add 1x1 png images
no kudosu
Sorry for this! ):
narakucrimson
@Natsume: I actually didn't follow the vocals there :D If you listen to the music, you'll notice the snare sounding and then a kick, separated by 1/4. That's what I'm trying to follow there~

I kind of like the effect, but if you still insist I can see what can be done :)
Bobo_old
Love this song ohoho~ :D

-Easy-

May as well set the BSD to 1/2. Lol :L

00:45:398 (1) - Delete new combo?
01:53:878 - Add a note?
02:03:009 - ^
02:09:857 (1) - Delete new combo.
02:24:409 (1) - Forward 2 ticks, shorten by 2 ticks.
02:42:670 (1) - ^
02:50:374 (1) - Down 2 grids.
02:56:651 (3) - To keep consistency with the 2 kiais before, make this a slider a new combo slider that ends at 02:57:793, then add a note at 02:58:363 with a clap and add another note with a new combo at 02:58:934.
03:03:499 (1) - Delete this note you had at 03:05:782 and make this slider here end at
03:05:782. Don't forget to make it look pretty! :D
03:06:067 (1) - 2 ticks forward, 2 ticks shorter.

-Normal-

CS 3? I had trouble with CS 4 Normals when I was a noob.

00:28:849 (2) - New combo?
00:30:561 (1,2,3) - Symmetry on the y axis?
00:55:099 (5) - Remove the clap.
00:59:950 (3) - Make this a single note with a clap.
01:00:521 - Slider here, end it at 01:00:806.
01:03:659 (2) - Looks ugly stacked like this, place it underneath (1).
01:07:654 (4) - Stack with the endpoint of (2)?
01:09:081 (3) - Single note with clap.
01:09:651 - Slider here, end it at the white tick.
01:11:934 (2) - Clap.
01:13:931 (4) - Make this one note louder and add the soft whistle.
01:26:486 (2,3,4 etc.) - Grr these patterns are annoying, mix a few sliders into this pattern.
01:33:334 (2,3,4 etc.) - ^
01:54:734 (3) - Single note with clap.
01:55:305 - Slider, end on white tick.
01:56:731 (3) - Remove the repeat from the slider and move it to the red tick. Place a single circle here.
02:05:291 (1,2,3 etc.) - Can you replace some of these circles with sliders please?
02:10:998 (2) - Make this one note louder, add the whistle.
02:33:825 (3) - Remove the finish.
02:40:387 (4) - Vertical flip the slider?

-Hard-

00:20:003 - Add a note.
00:31:417 (1,2) - Make these one slider? The sliders have a different amount of repeats and this can be confusing.
01:03:527 - Add a note.
01:03:659 (3) - Clap.
01:13:503 (2,3) - Delete these two notes?
01:13:931 (2) - LOUDER!!! + Whistle.
01:24:631 (5) - Clap on the start point.
01:26:914 (4) - ^
01:33:762 (3) - Clap on the endpoint.
02:10:998 (5) - LOUDERRRRR!!!! + Whistle.
02:36:963 - Add a note?
02:40:245 (5) - Delete the note?

-Insane-

00:54:243 (1) - Delete new combo?
00:57:953 (1) - Ehh this is kinda ugly.
01:07:083 (1) - ^
01:54:021 - Add a note?

Nice map :D
Really deserves more attention.

Star!
Natteke
Everyone is "Pushing Me Away" and I've "Given Up" on "Breaking The Habit." So I will "Leave Out All The Rest" and "Runaway" to be "By Myself." I will find "Somewhere I Belong" and be "One Step Closer" to finding a "Cure For The Itch." However, I'm not "Forgotten" because I'm "With You", "Crawling" under your skin like a "Papercut." "In The End" I will find "A Place For My Head" and the "Shadow of The Day" will wipe away "What I've Done." There will be "No More Sorrow" in this "New Divide".

map is bad btw. especially hitsounds
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