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Ora
o nice I can always count on the bn boyz n the hood
-sandAI
ora u baited me into thinking strategas just came into this map and modded it for no reason
Strategas
still waiting for normal diff response btw, don't forget p/6036104 aswell
Topic Starter
Ora

Lilyanna wrote:

Lilyanna is slow :c
Firetruck

Rose Melody wrote:

Firetruck's Easy :
  1. 00:16:393 (2,3) - Fix blanket .. just the middle tick to the right a bit ..
  2. 00:23:017 (2,4) - Here why don't you move circle no. 4 to x:190 , y:117 .. and move the next slider Ctrl + G .. and move it to x:108 , y:87 .. to stack it at the end of 00:21:848 (1) - slider .. The reason why i did this .. it's because circle no. 4 it appears directly and it's hard for the beginners to catch it .. that's why .. it should be fine :3 from testplays ive gotten from literally newbies LOL
  3. 00:34:315 (3,4) - How about if you make it like that ? http://i.imgur.com/LRp1GRQ.png .. isnt it the same
  4. 00:45:224 (1) - How about if you rotate this slider (40 degree) (ctrl + shift + R ) .. and move it to x:266 , y:222 ? .. just the same reason to 00:23:017 (2,4) - .. i prefer it this way, fits my aestethics and style more
  5. 00:48:341 (1,2,3) - Look http://i.imgur.com/V2JuEl0.png .. sometime i avoid this pattern it's because make the newbie misreading it .. like clicking 3 not 2 .. and it's up to you if you want to keep it .. yeah ill keep it :^)
  6. 01:09:770 (3,1,2,3) - you should change this to the opposite side .. cause it all on the right side .. like make it a bit to the left side .. to avoid this .. did something else here

Ametrin wrote:

Firetruck's Easy
00:11:328 - 00:11:718 - 00:12:107 - what are those green tick
00:15:224 (4,4) - remove these two notes to make some difference from 00:18:731 - 00:26:523
and all the unused green tick at the end

AyanokoRin wrote:

Finally stopped lazing around

[Firetruck’s Easy]

00:14:055 (3,3) - I don’t really understand what you wanna emphasise through that flow reversal

00:16:393 (2,3) - blanket could be better

00:20:484 (3,1) - should be straight as well to keep things consistent

00:21:848 (1,5) - stack not important tbh

00:23:211 - was clickable in the last measure which is identical to this one, why not here ? i want more variety, i did this after the kiai too

00:31:198 (3,4) - curve feels out of place here since 00:28:081 (3,4) were straight same here variety lol, did the same thing in the 2nd kiai for consistensy

00:46:783 (3,4,3) - here it’s the straight ones which feel out of place cause the entire kiai has curved sliders

01:08:211 (2) - don’t get the curve here either

LeQuack wrote:

M4M from my queue

Firetruck's Easy
  1. 00:18:731 (1) - I think this should be broken into two notes as it feels off following the vocals and then transitioning to the melody of the song with a non-clickable slider end it's because the melody got way more intesne than the vocals here that i started mapping to it instead
  2. 00:24:965 (5) - Delete the 5th anchor point for a nicer slider shape i think its nicer like this
  3. 00:32:757 (1) - I would ctrl-h for better movement to next note
  4. 01:12:497 - Up the volume in this section, i can barely hear the hitsounds

Chaoslitz wrote:

[Firetruck's Easy]
  1. 00:14:055 (3) - Try curving it right instead to build a more circular flow among 00:14:055 (3,4,1)
  2. 00:21:848 (1) - Same concept here, may want to curve it left
  3. 00:57:692 (1) - ^, only pointing out similar patterns like these with sharp angle flow
  4. 00:24:965 (5) - Move up the white anchor before the red a bit to build a better curve
  5. 00:59:250 - This should be clickable to emphasize the downbeat and vocal, try to change 00:58:861 (2,3,4) into a note and two 1/1 sliders

Joe Castle wrote:

Firetrucking Easy:

1. 00:43:276 (2) - why not putting the circle where the first slider´s curve is? like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8186221 it could make it look cool i wanna avoid blankets LOL
2. 00:53:796 (3,1) - separate this slider a bit more
3. 01:10:159 (1,2,3) - same problem here, separate "2,3" from the first slider i think both looks good tho
thnaks you all for modding! no reply = fixed
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Topic Starter
Ora
I just want to make some notes about Vanilla's diff that I'm having concerns about (now that I think about it) and I just have a bad feeling about the concept overall. I'm 99% sure that if something like this gets qualified, it will just crash and burn (not really, but there will be issues that pop up) and I just want to prevent that from happening. I think it's possible but it's going to be a long process imo, mainly because I've asked around a lot but I haven't gotten any straight answers.

01:05:679 (1,2,3) - 01:08:796 (1,2,3) - 01:11:913 (1,2,3) - the structure and the way it looks is really cool but it's almost impossible to hit every sliderend and it's something straight out of a 2b map/unranked gimmick map. Also, I don't see a reason for the gradual SV changes other than the fact that it "looks cool" (which it really does). The sounds in the song are identical, yet the objects don't portray that.

[Hitsounds]
I just feel like they don't follow the music that well

00:26:913 (2) - 00:39:380 (2) - 00:30:030 (2) - 00:33:146 (2) - , etc. The claps on these don't really make sense to me or follow the music (and you don't even have one at 00:45:614 (2) - )

you put a clap at 00:49:120 (6) - but none at 00:47:562 (6) - 00:46:004 (5) - 00:42:887 (5) - 00:41:328 (5) - etc. when there's one in the music for them

00:18:731 (1) - why clap here?

00:19:120 (1,5,4,8) - random whistle placements

00:28:666 (4) - I hear whistles for 00:28:276 (2,3) - but not 00:28:666 (4) - , goes for all of those same parts in the first kiai

There's more issues, but just in my personal opinion I don't agree with the hitsound placement, if you understand my concerns, we can just use the same hitsound structure used in the other diffs, it would take only 1 minute to fix. The way they are right now is really tough on the player and can cause a lot of confusion
Lilyanna

Joe Castle wrote:

:) HI! you requested mods in #modreqs, so im here to see if i can help you
i hope this mods Works :s




Lilyanna´s Normal:
1. 00:14:835 (2,3) - hmm... for me this looks kinda weird, why not trying something like the ones at 00:28:081 (1,2) ? (this is just my opinión :S) ok fixed
2. 00:29:251 (4,1) - try doing this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8186294 its already like that polished more



hope the mods Works for something :?
sorry if it looks like isnt that much, but i think the rest of the diffs are pretty solid
thx for mod

Strategas wrote:

[normal]

00:14:055 - not very intuitive rhythm since you followed the other instrument and switching so suddenly is not that great here
00:17:172 (1) - same
idk what you mean exactly , there is basicaly one music going on with changing and i am following that i am just following the most dominant one i didnt switch anything the music switched and i am following it

ok so I got to kiai and notice that you're using extremely long 1/2 chains which aren't really something you'd use in a normal, but an advanced diff, I highly suggest adding small 1/1 breaks in between your chains, something like http://i.imgur.com/CdpWbaO.png works (this example starts at 00:26:523 (1) - )

00:58:081 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - applies to this too, it's pretty calm part but it's mapped so intense zzz

agree with everything above i already talked with ora about this i knew rythym was little intest i changed patterns like u showed through rest of map and made it more simple i hope x) ( was planning to do this i knew someone will poiint this :p)
Update sry for late
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Strategas

Strategas wrote:

[normal]

00:14:055 - not very intuitive rhythm since you followed the other instrument and switching so suddenly is not that great here
00:17:172 (1) - same
idk what you mean exactly , there is basicaly one music going on with changing and i am following that i am just following the most dominant one i didnt switch anything the music switched and i am following it I mean that following only 00:12:887 - 00:13:276 - 00:13:666 - 00:13:861 - 00:14:250 - 00:14:445 - etc... that sound would be much more intuitive since it follows an obvious melody, when you are also mapping 00:14:055 - it's more complex to follow, it's not an hard fix, just don't map 00:14:055 - and 00:17:172
on additional note for normal diff, try to avoid overlapping notes for such low diff, 00:22:432 (2,1) - 00:30:419 (3,1) - 00:59:055 (4,1) - 01:05:289 (3,1) - 01:11:523 (3,1) -
especially stuff that completely overlaps 00:49:705 (4,2) - 00:20:679 (1,3) -

and you broke something aa 01:02:172 (4,1) -
Topic Starter
Ora
stuff updated, I fixed 01:02:172 (4,1) - for lily
Lilyanna
I fixed everything now thx! x) Ora pls check the tags they conflict
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Title:BANANA STREET (short ver.)
TitleUnicode:BANANA STREET (short ver.)
Artist:dark cat
ArtistUnicode:dark cat
Creator:Ora
Version:Vanilla's Banana
Source:
Tags:-vanilla lilyanna firetruck
BeatmapID:1185260
BeatmapSetID:560047

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5.5
CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9.3
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Topic Starter
Ora
fixed hitsounds for vanilla's banana, and added some volume changes that I used in the other diffs (gradual increase here: 01:12:497 - 01:13:276 - 01:14:055 - 01:14:835 - and decrease 01:15:614 (1) - )
:D
Strategas

-Vanilla wrote:

[banana]

00:38:893 - 00:41:085 - 00:42:010 - 00:44:007 -lower volume for same reasons, gonna stop checking for these now, recheck your whole map for them On slower and calmer parts I would silence the blue tick ends so it would feel more clean while playing it, but when it went into the kiai I essentially mapped to a 1/8th snap and only silenced the 1/8ths, I did silence the ones I missed but I don't think its necessary to silence pretty much everything. there was a keyword "or", I'd really highly recommend atleast making it more quiet, like half of the current volume would do fine, it's too noisy rn
for insane 00:42:107 (1,2) - didn't get changed yet either

normal looks good
Topic Starter
Ora

Strategas wrote:

for insane 00:42:107 (1,2) - didn't get changed yet either
woops somehow I missed that comment u made on insane and changed something else, should be good now. I'll update after vanilla fixes volumes for blue ticks updated



Here vanilla:
00:26:523 (1) - 00:29:640 (1) - 00:32:757 (1) - 00:35:874 (1) - 00:45:224 (1) - 00:50:679 (1,2) - 01:03:146 (1,2,1) - 01:04:705 (3) - 01:07:042 (1) - 01:10:159 (1) -
Strategas
bubbled
Topic Starter
Ora
Thanks for all the help strategas! Much appreciated
Yoshimaro
R A N K
A N
N A
K N A R
Hixou07
Not bad, Good Luck for be ranked map ^^
squirrelpascals
where are my t2s at
-sandAI

squirrelpascals wrote:

where are my t2s at
Im scaring them away unintentionally
Lilyanna

-Vanilla wrote:

squirrelpascals wrote:

where are my t2s at
Im scaring them away unintentionally
saem tbh

i want rank my first gd XD
Topic Starter
Ora

squirrelpascals wrote:

where are my t2s at
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
-sandAI
Changed 00:14:835 (4,5,6,7) - to fit the general idea of gradual spacing increase
Kurai
As per your request I checked the whole set and I only have one concern in Vanilla's difficulty:

I don't think patterns like 00:28:081 (1,2,3,4,1) - should be allowed. The slider track is silenced and so is the the slider tail. In this case why not just use circles if you are going to mute everything? Not to mention that the sliders end on 1/8 ticks which makes absolutely no sense because the little buzzing sounds those sliders are supposed to follow always end on the blue 1/4 ticks. Not to mention that the way the sliders are stacked on one another makes it harder to read (since everything is silenced, there is no real audio feedback so the player mainly has to rely on what he sees).

I advise you to find an alternative to those patterns, or at least make sure the sliders are snapped on those 1/4 blue ticks. Those 1/8 snaps make absolutely no sense.

Other patterns concerned by this issue:
  1. 00:28:081 (1,2,3,4,1) -
  2. 00:31:198 (1,2,3,4,1) -
  3. 00:37:432 (1,2,3,4) - only for the 1/8 snapping
  4. 00:43:666 (1,2,3) - only for the 1/8 snapping
  5. 00:46:783 (1,2,3) - only for the 1/8 snapping
Okoratu
ora pmd me and i just woke up from a nap so have fun deciphering my confusion:

hey that diff is cool would help if you had like the reasons why people are against it
also why is 00:15:614 (1) - not extended it follows same idea that the first slider did

hitsounding is pretty lackluster though

sliderends like 00:40:939 (2) - should also be muted would doublecheck map forthose
for 00:28:666 (4) - these are a pain to sightread why dont you increase the SV so that you can make them stand out a bit more by showing more of the slider while adding new combos

would be a middleground that has you keep the pattern and fixes the potential issues people could have with it


just sad that background instruments werent hitsounded and idk what 00:41:718 (1) - is mapped to or why its is slowing down
01:12:497 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hitsounding is weirdly inaudible in comparison to like
everything

can your bg do proper dimensions?
-sandAI

Okorin wrote:

ora pmd me and i just woke up from a nap so have fun deciphering my confusion:

hey that diff is cool would help if you had like the reasons why people are against it
also why is 00:15:614 (1) - not extended it follows same idea that the first slider did cuz there is a noise at the end of the slider, if i extended it, it would miss the sound lul

hitsounding is pretty lackluster though blame ora :(

sliderends like 00:40:939 (2) - should also be muted would doublecheck map forthose yes
for 00:28:666 (4) - these are a pain to sightread why dont you increase the SV so that you can make them stand out a bit more by showing more of the slider while adding new combos mmm.. I'll have to think of something sorta new cuz I don't agree with the sv increase, but for now I'll definitely apply new comboes (default skin makes it easier to read cuz new colors and junk)however i am going to keep the combo colors on 00:37:432 (1,2,3,4,1) - so it distinguishes the slow slider more.

would be a middleground that has you keep the pattern and fixes the potential issues people could have with it


just sad that background instruments werent hitsounded and idk what 00:41:718 (1) - is mapped to or why its is slowing down its slowed down cuz of the low pitch of the instrument i cant name
01:12:497 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hitsounding is weirdly inaudible in comparison to like
everything ora pls (also idk what u mean it just has a different sample than the rest of the map)

can your bg do proper dimensions?
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Okoratu
00:12:887 - 00:13:666 - 00:14:445 - have the same noise and you extended them through that
to then ignore that completely

a sv increase would only be visual, you can adjust its length for the slider to play the same way as it does now to address the qualms others may have with the pattern but whatever
Topic Starter
Ora
Hitsounds should be better now, followed instruments with whistles for the beginning/end. You will need to redownload because I added a 3rd custom sample

Updated Vanilla from his reply
-sandAI

Okorin wrote:

00:12:887 - 00:13:666 - 00:14:445 - have the same noise and you extended them through that
to then ignore that completely

a sv increase would only be visual, you can adjust its length for the slider to play the same way as it does now to address the qualms others may have with the pattern but whatever
ah yeah I see what you mean, but the entire entry section is a buildup, so as the song gets louder and more 'intense' the rhythm choices are more precise (at least thats how i interpreted it) but if its a serious issue I can definitely change some stuff around to make it work better.
Topic Starter
Ora
well BG dimensions should be fine now.

In response to @kurai, the sliders and circles for the kiai represents different sounds in the music (for example: 00:28:081 (1,1,1,1) - vs. 00:28:861 (1,2,3,4) - ) . The sliders represent the humming noise while the circles represent the other solid instruments that are introduced. Idk if that's enough explaination, and as far as play-ability I feel like the pattern is characteristic for the way the overall map was mapped. It's fine if you disagree with it though because it's subjective. I also see the concern for 1/8 but there are 1/8 throughout the entire map and they are all playable. I also think the low bpm of the music makes those 1/8 ticks playable. Thanks for looking at the map and giving your input :^)
jeanbernard8865
y grave rip
Topic Starter
Ora

AyanokoRin wrote:

y grave rip
Can't make any compromises with vanillas diff
Aurele
/me looks
Topic Starter
Ora
/me :?
Okoratu
so given the changes made is Strategas gonna rebubble or no?
Topic Starter
Ora

Okorin wrote:

so given the changes made is Strategas gonna rebubble or no?
Yeah he said he would rebub (or qualify if I was able to find a T1 bub). Should I poke him?
Okoratu
yeah
-sandAI
100 posts hype lol
Strategas
don't think it needed rebubble but ok
Topic Starter
Ora

Strategas wrote:

don't think it needed rebubble but ok
THANK U monstrategas
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