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Yakushi Ruri - Oniichan, Motto!

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Sonnyc
7,753 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
Easy.
00:12:342 (3,4,5,6) - 00:49:371 (3,4,5,6) - 01:07:542 (1,2,3) - I wouldn't say 175bpm as something low. Considering this difficulty to be the lowest one, I feel such 1/1 circles appearing in a row to be a bit difficult to become a beginner friendly aspect. Mind making these a little easier?
01:12:685 (1,2,3) - I don't think the current spacing was kinda reflecting the rhythms properly, but it would be because the rhythms are constructed with 2 circles and a slider with a wide time interval. Actually the current design could work, but can you try making (1,2) a slider instead?

Kencho.
00:05:571 - 00:11:057 - I guess expressing these beats along the vocal would've fit the music better. How do you think?

Let me know when you're ready.
Gaia
2,808 posts
Joined May 2013
Gaia
aaa my angel renchon

[General]
some audio leadin would be nice/ probably 2000 since ur offset is 0 lol

[KSHR]
00:32:914 (1) - i guess maybe if you could place this somewhere on the left instead itd be better?
00:50:742 (1) - this could but placed lower for a more uniform pattern
01:09:942 (1,2) - maybe try 3/2 reverse

[Normal]
spacing is really high for a normal tbh, i feel like there's a diff gap between easy and this diff
also when you change sv you should change ds as well to keep the spacing consistent imo

00:15:428 (5) - 00:18:171 (5) - 00:20:914 (5) - (etc) switch to circle ? slider train a bit long here
00:43:028 (5) - maybe delete this?

[Hard]
00:03:257 (2,3,4) - kinda big jump since it has a triple
00:55:714 (4,1) - remove claps?
01:01:028 (3,4,1) - eh this flow isnt great imo
01:07:714 (3,4,5) - kinda hard so maybe 1/4 reverse instead?
01:19:371 (1,2) - the jump should be on (1) not (2) imo
01:24:857 (1) - ^ to keep it consistent (though the jump here is on (3) :gabrielthinking:)

[Insane]
00:00:171 (2,3,4) - 00:02:057 (1,2,1) - keep ur spacings consistent, 1st set is 1/2 2nd set is 1/4
00:02:742 (1,2,3) - ^ it's especially confusing here since it's the same combo and right after each other
00:04:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:09:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same here, not as bad but still confusing imo. rest of the map just keep an eye out for it urself i guess
00:14:914 (1) - bigger jump?
00:19:714 (2) - smaller jump i think, nothing needs emphasis here
00:20:400 (1) - contrary to the above this should have larger spacing
00:42:857 (2) - copy paste ctrl+j (1)?
00:58:971 (1,2,3,4) - some harsh flow here
00:59:657 (3) - drum clap on head?

[Kenchon]
00:00:000 (1,2,1,2,1) - the spacing here is all messed up :>
00:13:028 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - u can probably place this differently from the rest of the patterns since this should be emphasized more
00:55:542 (4) - 00:58:285 (5) - 01:01:028 (4) - (and the rest) NC?
00:59:657 (3) - drump clap on head pls
01:04:457 (1) - ^
01:09:771 (2) - ^
01:11:314 (11,1) - switch NC
01:19:200 (5) - why the low spacing here?
01:21:600 (3) - drum clap again?
01:30:771 (1) - the very end u get this tiny 'tick' sound, maybe switch the the default soft sampleset just for the softer sound?

[Renchon, motto!!]
00:13:285 (4,1) - my only problem with this stream is that this is stacked otherwise i can actually play this lol
00:14:742 (6,7) - 00:15:085 (1,2,3) - looks exactly the same, plays totally differently
00:18:857 (1,2,1,2) - why hanzer :s
00:52:842 (1) - ninja spinner lol. this is just under 2 beats so yeah :/ //// edit: i think auto needs to be able to spin at least 3000 for it to be rankable? not entirely sure but u should double check
01:04:457 (1) - 01:05:828 (1,2,3) - rhythm consistency?
01:08:571 (1,2,3,4) - idk why this shud be sped up o.o
01:30:000 (1) - imo maybe 2 kicksliders would be nice here?

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KSHR
Global Moderator
1,668 posts
Joined July 2010
KSHR

Sekaii wrote:

KSHR's Easy:
  1. 00:12:342 (3,4,5,6) - well, I understand why you're doing this, but adding that many notes on easy might be too much tbh, so how about making 00:13:028 (5,6) - into 1/1 slider instead? it would fit even more imo Fixed as you suggested.
  2. 00:19:885 (2) - maybe you forgot to add whistle on this slider's head? somehow it sounded like something missing there, that's why =3=/
    Fixed. I can't hear any sounds from the left side of my earphone.. gimme the new one..
  3. 00:22:628 (2) - ^ Fixed. AGAHJARJAAAAA
  4. 00:49:371 (3,4,5,6) - same suggest as before 00:12:342 (3,4,5,6) - , make (5,6) into 1 slider instead? would be better imo
    Same!
  5. 00:58:285 (4) - I think making this slider like this might play much better imo
    No change, honetsly I see no difference from the current one in terms of flow, gameplay etc.

Neoskylove wrote:

[Easy]
00:17:142 (2) - ctrl HJ for flow
No change. I don't think this improves the flow that much because it doesn't change the cursor movement.
00:54:685 - I thyink you should add a beat here since strong vocal is in here, not 00:54:857 - .
True, fixed by turning 00:54:171 (2) - into a 3/2 slider and rearranged the pattern
01:12:685 (1,2,3) - this pattern looks hard to read.... DS looks similar, I suggest you add a beat in 01:13:885 - .
No change. Just adding a note here makes the pattern much harder because it makes a 3/2 gap between in notes which is unfriendly and should be avoided.

Sonnyc wrote:

Easy.
00:12:342 (3,4,5,6) - 00:49:371 (3,4,5,6) - 01:07:542 (1,2,3) - I wouldn't say 175bpm as something low. Considering this difficulty to be the lowest one, I feel such 1/1 circles appearing in a row to be a bit difficult to become a beginner friendly aspect. Mind making these a little easier?
00:12:342 (3,4,5,6) - 00:49:371 (3,4,5,6) - => 2 sliders, 01:07:542 (1,2,3) - (2,3) => 1 slider

01:12:685 (1,2,3) - I don't think the current spacing was kinda reflecting the rhythms properly, but it would be because the rhythms are constructed with 2 circles and a slider with a wide time interval. Actually the current design could work, but can you try making (1,2) a slider instead?
Fixed as you suggested

Gaia wrote:

[KSHR]
00:32:914 (1) - i guess maybe if you could place this somewhere on the left instead itd be better?
Let me keep it as is. I feel the current flow really fits to the vocal line, especially its stress at 00:32:914 - . AHHH hard to explain subjective feeling..
00:50:742 (1) - this could but placed lower for a more uniform pattern
Rearranged the pattern itself as Sonnyc suggested
01:09:942 (1,2) - maybe try 3/2 reverse
No change. The current rhythm can follow not only the vocal line but also the electric sound which goes from 01:10:457 - . Also this is just my subjective reason, but I don't wanna use 3/2 slider as much as possible because recent Easy difs I've seen have lots of ones..

Thanks for modding!


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Title:Oniichan, Motto!
TitleUnicode:お兄ちゃん、もっと！
Artist:Yakushi Ruri
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Source:お兄ちゃん、キッスの準備はまだですか？　エッチの準備はまだですか？
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Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
Karen

lit120 wrote:

ok, where was i...

[insane]
  1. 00:57:257 (4) - y not just copy paste the slider from 00:56:742 (2) - it's already a copied one

xxdeathx wrote:

eroge was a bigger mistake

[General]
  1. Add Kagamine Ren and ken###### to tags we don't like our old names
  2. Gap between normal, hard, insane is a little funny. Hard object density is close to insane sometimes, normal in the fast parts has same spacing but much less object density than hard so overall the gap is fine lol
[Easy]
nothing

[Normal]
nothing except mentioning spacing and object density compared to hard

[Hard]
  1. Most diffs at this bpm and object density use ar8. I feel ar7 is way too slow for this kind of diff, especially since places like the ending 01:26:400 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - have the exact same triple rhythm as the insane buffed to 7.5
  2. 00:53:485 (1,2) - not exactly parallel
[Insane]
  1. 00:05:485 (1,1) - Slider curves should be consistent
  2. 01:14:742 (4,5) - 1/6 on experts 1/8 on insane??
  3. 01:30:000 (2) - nc?
[Expert]
  1. 00:14:400 (5,6,7) - 00:15:085 (1,2,3) - even though 6-7 is circle to circle, this inconsistent spacing is confusing since the overall patterns appear the same
  2. 00:16:800 (2,3) - ctrl-g this rhythm is better to have a clickable object on 00:17:142 used circles instead
  3. 00:55:542 (5,6,1) - I know the vocal doesn't start until (1), but I don't think the 5-6 are different instruments so they shouldn't be mapped differently and on different combo i still think 00:55:714 (1) - this is a different part lol
  4. 01:01:542 (5,6,1) - 00:56:057 (5,6,1) - make this consistent
  5. 01:30:000 (1,2) - why is this spacing so small? I figure this part should have big spacing to match the intensity of the sound because it's a funny end
I'm not BN anymore so I can't write call me back :thinking:

Neoskylove wrote:

m4m from your Q

[General]
Turn off widescreen support

[Easy]
00:17:142 (2) - ctrl HJ for flow
00:54:685 - I thyink you should add a beat here since strong vocal is in here, not 00:54:857 - .
01:12:685 (1,2,3) - this pattern looks hard to read.... DS looks similar, I suggest you add a beat in 01:13:885 - .

[Normal]
00:10:971 (1) - looks hard flow with 00:11:657 (2) - , How about ctrl Hj and make more qa sy flow? flow is ok to me
00:28:800 (3,4) - blanket
01:10:971 (3) - move to 01:11:139 - , This part has vocal beat,

[Hard]
00:02:400 - this part has really strong beat, I suggest you adding a clickable beat. i should make the rhythm simple
00:02:742 (1,2,3,4) - why you nade jump here? looks awkward in this part, and this part doesn't need emphasizing. make same with 00:08:228 (1,2,3,4) -
00:10:628 (5) - since you didn't used this 3/4 slider, I don't recommend to you use this rhythm, just finish slider at 00:10:800 - i think it fits well
00:53:485 (1,2) - make parallel for better view,
00:58:285 (3) - I think you should emphasize this part, not 00:57:600 (1,2) - .

[Insane]
00:13:714 (1) - how about make jump like 00:13:371 (1) - ? hmm looks bad
00:19:200 (1) - ^
00:38:400 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest you make triangles with 00:38:400 (1,2,4) - and 00:38:571 (2,3,4) - for better looking. 00:38:914 (4,5) - this is a different part so
01:14:742 (4,5) - end at 01:15:042 - 01:15:385 - ?

[Expert]
00:52:842 (1,1) - this note after spinner looks hard to read and play, it's in the middle i think it's fine
01:30:342 (2) - antijump looks weird, I suggest make a jump. well it's a nice one i don't know why everyone hates it

GL

Lavender wrote:

Random mod
[Insane]
  1. 00:24:514 (10,1) - 我觉得可以放远点，因为00:23:828 (3,4) - 和这个差不多远啊
[Expert]
  1. 00:15:342 (2) - 感觉这个overmap不太好，00:15:685 (3) - 在这里overmap都好一些，后面同理 我觉得00:15:771 (4,1) - 这里停顿跟后面chuchu完美契合
  2. 00:55:542 (5,6) - 这两个note上的音好像没有什么特别值得凸显的东西吧 只是为了好玩，如果不改不能泡我就改
  3. 01:01:028 (4,5) - 个人不喜欢脱离原曲做jb
  4. 01:08:828 (2,4) - 这个overmap打起来手感太差了 前面是overmap后面不是，所以为了保持后面的手感我前面也加了
  5. 01:30:171 - 这里也是强音，推荐01:30:000 (1) - 拆成两个1/4滑条
这歌听得我尴尬症犯了

Gaia wrote:

aaa my angel renchon

[General]
some audio leadin would be nice/ probably 2000 since ur offset is 0 lol

[KSHR]
00:32:914 (1) - i guess maybe if you could place this somewhere on the left instead itd be better?
00:50:742 (1) - this could but placed lower for a more uniform pattern
01:09:942 (1,2) - maybe try 3/2 reverse

[Normal]
spacing is really high for a normal tbh, i feel like there's a diff gap between easy and this diff spacing is large but the rhythm is simple i guess the gap is fine
also when you change sv you should change ds as well to keep the spacing consistent imo

00:15:428 (5) - 00:18:171 (5) - 00:20:914 (5) - (etc) switch to circle ? slider train a bit long here because circles make the gap bigger ;-;
00:43:028 (5) - maybe delete this? i think it's important

[Hard]
00:03:257 (2,3,4) - kinda big jump since it has a triple
00:55:714 (4,1) - remove claps? i dislike circles without hitsounds so i added all i can add
01:01:028 (3,4,1) - eh this flow isnt great imo
01:07:714 (3,4,5) - kinda hard so maybe 1/4 reverse instead? it's for consistent with 01:07:028 (4,5) -
01:19:371 (1,2) - the jump should be on (1) not (2) imo
01:24:857 (1) - ^ to keep it consistent (though the jump here is on (3) :gabrielthinking:)

[Insane]
00:00:171 (2,3,4) - 00:02:057 (1,2,1) - keep ur spacings consistent, 1st set is 1/2 2nd set is 1/4
00:02:742 (1,2,3) - ^ it's especially confusing here since it's the same combo and right after each other
00:04:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:09:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same here, not as bad but still confusing imo. rest of the map just keep an eye out for it urself i guess
00:14:914 (1) - bigger jump?
00:19:714 (2) - smaller jump i think, nothing needs emphasis here
00:20:400 (1) - contrary to the above this should have larger spacing
00:42:857 (2) - copy paste ctrl+j (1)?
00:58:971 (1,2,3,4) - some harsh flow here
00:59:657 (3) - drum clap on head?

[Renchon, motto!!]
00:13:285 (4,1) - my only problem with this stream is that this is stacked otherwise i can actually play this lol i like the tsack, it fits the two spacined streams
00:14:742 (6,7) - 00:15:085 (1,2,3) - looks exactly the same, plays totally differently
00:18:857 (1,2,1,2) - why hanzer :s buce
00:52:842 (1) - ninja spinner lol. this is just under 2 beats so yeah :/ //// edit: i think auto needs to be able to spin at least 3000 for it to be rankable? not entirely sure but u should double check it only needs 1000 and i'm sure it's rankable
01:04:457 (1) - 01:05:828 (1,2,3) - rhythm consistency? i don't think they need to be consistent because too much consistency makes a map boring
01:08:571 (1,2,3,4) - idk why this shud be sped up o.o the background sound told me to do o.o
01:30:000 (1) - imo maybe 2 kicksliders would be nice here?

glglglhfhf

no comment means fixed, and updated the guest diffs as well, thanks!
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho

Sonnyc wrote:

Kencho.
00:05:571 - 00:11:057 - I guess expressing these beats along the vocal would've fit the music better. How do you think?
At first, I want some different in these part, so I ignored.

Gaia wrote:

aaa my angel renchon
[Kenchon]
00:00:000 (1,2,1,2,1) - the spacing here is all messed up :>
Insane/Extra diffs I think it was fine :>
00:13:028 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - u can probably place this differently from the rest of the patterns since this should be emphasized more
OK
00:55:542 (4) - 00:58:285 (5) - 01:01:028 (4) - (and the rest) NC?
OK
00:59:657 (3) - drump clap on head pls
OK
01:04:457 (1) - ^
OK
01:09:771 (2) - ^
OK
01:11:314 (11,1) - switch NC
OK
01:19:200 (5) - why the low spacing here?
?? I think it just a symmetry
01:21:600 (3) - drum clap again?
OK
01:30:771 (1) - the very end u get this tiny 'tick' sound, maybe switch the the default soft sampleset just for the softer sound?
OK

1111
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Sonnyc
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Sonnyc
Nominated.
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Karen
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Topic Starter
Karen
Thanks! \o/
Nokris
258 posts
Joined February 2015
Nokris
Perfect! Good work, Karen.
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Misure
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Misure
这作是不是要出fd了
Monstrata
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Monstrata
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00:18:857 (1,2,1,2) - You are not hanzer!! No actually, after going through the map, I don't think this stream is a good idea since your 1/4 patterns are usually built up by consistent spacing followed by jump / anti-jumps on strong beats. 00:13:285 (4,1) - 00:25:628 (4,1) - 00:58:542 (7,1) - 01:04:028 (4,1) - etc... Usually the stream pattern themselves is consistent. This is the only place you decide to make it inconsistent and put emphasis on that red tick.
00:26:742 (1,1) - Circle is slightly off blanket.
00:32:228 (4) - You could try a kickslider arranged like this for vocals.
~
01:07:028 (5,6,1) - Space these triplets a bit if you can? Would emphasize the pitch increase better. Also 01:07:714 (4,5,6) - is spaced and it seems better to be consistent with that that 01:05:657 (4,5,1) - , but you can disagree here i guess.
01:09:171 (4,1,2) - This flow isn't that good imo. The way you set up these patterns it creates a really fast clockwise flow, especially with 01:08:914 (3,4,1) - . So i would have expected a placement that continues this flow since 01:09:428 - doesn't seem like a strong beat or anything that needs a flow change.
Something like this is what I imagine continuing the flow would look like. You can break it with the next slider

Kencho's Extra

00:33:600 (2,1) - This placement doesn't really fit your structure very well. Compare it to 00:32:571 (6,1) - . The slider-end is too close.
01:15:771 (2,4) - Same, this placement doesn't fit your structure too well.
Move 4 down a bit more?

Insane

01:23:657 (1,2) - Minor, but You could move slider 2 like left a bit more so the blanket is perfect xD.

Hard

00:00:000 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - They look a bit inconsistent in spacing.
00:10:971 (1,2,3,4,5) - With stacking, the visual spacing here is quite off. You might want to move the pattern down like 8 pixels and rotate slider 4 a bit to keep the visual even.
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00:14:228 (2,3,4) - Same here, stacking kinda ruins the blanket.
00:21:600 (5,6) - Same here, about the visual consistency here.
00:58:800 (4,1,2,3,4) - ^
01:04:457 (1,2) - Stacking + blanket thing
01:17:485 (4,5,6) - ^
01:23:314 (5,6) - ^

K thats all. It's just really minor changes tbh. Just select the objects and use ctrl+arrow keys to move them down/left 4/8 pixels to undo the stack.

KSHR's Easy

AR 3 instead? BPM is on the upper end. I usually associate AR 2 with like 100-130 bpm maps.
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Should be all!
Kencho
952 posts
Joined August 2013
Kencho

Monstrata wrote:

Kencho's Extra

00:33:600 (2,1) - This placement doesn't really fit your structure very well. Compare it to 00:32:571 (6,1) - . The slider-end is too close. Fixed
01:15:771 (2,4) - Same, this placement doesn't fit your structure too well. Fixed
Move 4 down a bit more?
Thanks for mod!

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TitleUnicode:お兄ちゃん、もっと！
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ArtistUnicode:薬師るり
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Source:お兄ちゃん、キッスの準備はまだですか？エッチの準備もまだですか？
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KSHR
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KSHR

Monstrata wrote:

KSHR's Easy

AR 3 instead? BPM is on the upper end. I usually associate AR 2 with like 100-130 bpm maps. OK!
Thanks, mostrata!
Karen, AR3 onegai!
Karen
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Topic Starter
Karen

Monstrata wrote:

Expert

00:32:228 (4) - You could try a kickslider arranged like this for vocals. i don't like following vocals on blue ticks and the drums here are strong enough in my opinion, also slider tail isn't clickable so its feedback is really little xD
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01:09:171 (4,1,2) - This flow isn't that good imo. The way you set up these patterns it creates a really fast clockwise flow, especially with 01:08:914 (3,4,1) - . So i would have expected a placement that continues this flow since 01:09:428 - doesn't seem like a strong beat or anything that needs a flow change. yea you're right, made something different tho.
Something like this is what I imagine continuing the flow would look like. You can break it with the next slider
fixed all other stuff! and changed the pattern 00:55:542 (5,6,1) - 01:01:028 (4,5,1) - in Expert because i found them annoying.
updated guest diffs, thank you for the mod.
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
Oniichan!!
Karen
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Topic Starter
Karen
Thank you!
Cosmolade
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Joined December 2012
Cosmolade

Monstrata wrote:

Oniichan!!
yes
Fushimi Rio
Fushimi Rio
Oniichan!!
Reillia
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Reillia
karen oniiiichan !
Sarah Katherine
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Sarah Katherine
Can you add the video into .osu file? I know it's nsfw so just add the filename into .osu file, I will put the video file in myself.
Karen
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Karen

Sarah Katherine wrote:

Can you add the video into .osu file? I know it's nsfw so just add the filename into .osu file, I will put the video file in myself.
You can add it yourself, just without the ranked status
Abe Nana
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Abe Nana
wow.. so awesome song
Kencho
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Joined August 2013
Kencho

Sarah Katherine wrote:

Can you add the video into .osu file? I know it's nsfw so just add the filename into .osu file, I will put the video file in myself.
You can add the video code into .osb file as well, not only in .osu, then it can be with video but also ranked status.
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