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supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari (TV Size)

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Violet-Fox
81 posts
Joined October 2014
Topic Starter
Violet-Fox
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Last edited by Violet-Fox , edited 8 times in total.
MikasaSerket
520 posts
Joined December 2014
MikasaSerket
The difficulty spread itself is poor and lacking in showing any "actual" difficult progression between each one. I don't like the way some of the sliders look visually (mostly in the higher difficulties) and could be improved upon but that isn't necessary (very random slider shapes that don't have any correlation to the music) Barely any structure, Bad Rhythm placements most evident in some of the pauses between objects,.

Supernatural

The flow in this difficulty specifically plays very bad.
There are parts of the map where the song is increasingly getting more intense, however instead of increasing spacing the spacing is decreased.
00:53:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Bad Rhythm placement, that part itself plays poorly because of how 00:53:995 (2) - is on top of #3 HOWEVER there is a pause inbetween them that is not expected that will confuse the player. There is no reason for there to be a pause inbetween #2 and #3, there isn't anything in the music that would indicate a pause being there.
00:40:722 (1,2) - Why not follow the rhythm the way it was prior? If you are trying to emphasize the vocals, fine. However the sliders still skip over a beat on the white tick that could be heard within the music.
00:42:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No increase in spacing even though the song is increasing in intensity.
01:14:177 (1,2,1,2,1) - (Bad rhythm) You miss a very strong drum sound on the white tick 01:14:904 - and instead map the slider to the vocals which should NOT be done in this case. This applies to that entire section.
00:14:540 (1,2) - Flow here is uncomfortable to play, the sliders are really close to each other. The sliders aren't visually good to look at.

I don't want to mod much more ;w;
-Latias-
589 posts
Joined November 2015
-Latias-
i had an ingame mod with the creater of the map
22:51 -Latias-: hey !
22:51 -Latias-: are you up for a in game mod
22:51 -Latias-: for
22:51 *-Latias- is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1180560 supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari (TV Size) [Insane]]
22:52 Violet-Fox: would like to get my SP up so ;;
22:53 -Latias-: after your done modding ?
22:53 Violet-Fox: im GDing so i can quickly swap to my map for your mods
22:55 -Latias-: ok so some things i noticed about the diffs
22:55 Violet-Fox: yea?
22:55 -Latias-: from insane and supernatural
22:56 -Latias-: theres sliders like
22:56 -Latias-: 00:27:631 (2) -
22:56 -Latias-: 00:28:904 (5) -
22:56 -Latias-: that could be slower
22:56 -Latias-: and be made in to a better shape
22:56 -Latias-: on insane
22:57 Violet-Fox: okay
22:58 -Latias-: 00:36:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
22:58 -Latias-: i feel
22:58 -Latias-: this should be mapped with 1/1 sliders
22:58 -Latias-: not really anything in music for it to be mapped with regualr sliders
22:59 Violet-Fox: on just insane?
22:59 -Latias-: yeah
22:59 Violet-Fox: okay
22:59 -Latias-: well
22:59 -Latias-: im modding insane
22:59 -Latias-: but ill take a look at supernatural
23:00 -Latias-: 01:06:177 (6) -
23:00 -Latias-: also should be a 1/1
23:01 -Latias-: theres a lot of areas in insane
23:01 -Latias-: where its left unmapped
23:01 -Latias-: but should be
23:01 -Latias-: 00:11:631 -
23:01 -Latias-: 00:13:631 -
23:02 -Latias-: 00:54:177 -
23:02 -Latias-: 00:55:450 -
23:03 -Latias-: 01:06:540 -
23:03 Violet-Fox: the one at 54:177 is supposed to match the pause in the drum
23:04 -Latias-: hmm
23:04 -Latias-: i would make that a slider
23:05 -Latias-: it would be a better transition to mapping from drum
23:05 -Latias-: to vocal
23:05 Violet-Fox: i guess
23:05 -Latias-: 01:07:631 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
23:05 Violet-Fox: the pause would only make better sense in the higher diffs where more technical notes should be
23:05 -Latias-: that should be a more consistent stream shape
23:05 Violet-Fox: and lower where there are less notes
23:06 -Latias-: just a question
23:06 -Latias-: do you know what blankets are
23:06 -Latias-: ?
23:06 Violet-Fox: yeah
23:07 -Latias-: you should use more blankets
23:07 -Latias-: in general
23:08 -Latias-: because aesthetics really suffer
23:08 -Latias-: from the lack of them
23:09 -Latias-: also jumps like these
23:09 -Latias-: 00:42:540 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
23:09 -Latias-: what shape were you aiming to make
23:09 -Latias-: for these jumps
23:10 Violet-Fox: wasnt meant to be jumps, just a linear pattern
23:11 -Latias-: if you want to make a linear pattern
23:11 -Latias-: that aim for triangles
23:11 -Latias-: as it makes the map look better
23:12 -Latias-: you could make the spacing of the triangle
23:12 -Latias-: as small or big as you want
23:12 -Latias-: for same exact pattern
23:12 -Latias-: select notes that you want copied
23:12 -Latias-: ctrl+c
23:13 -Latias-: then ctrl+v at the time stamp you want it to be the same
23:15 Violet-Fox: i changed it to be more similar to the jump pattern at the end
23:15 Violet-Fox: is that any better?
23:15 -Latias-: its better
23:16 Violet-Fox: ok ^^
23:16 -Latias-: ok so since theres a lot of things i can point out
23:16 -Latias-: ill give a general idea of what the problems are
23:17 -Latias-: you use way to many curved sliders
23:17 -Latias-: try to use more straight sliders
23:17 -Latias-: sliders are too close together
23:17 -Latias-: try to space them out more
23:18 Violet-Fox: i tried to keep spacing small because it was only insane
23:18 -Latias-: there a lot of places where you could overlap
23:19 -Latias-: well the spacing
23:19 -Latias-: ends up having a lot of unneccasary overlaps
23:19 -Latias-: which the aesthetics suffer from
23:20 -Latias-: also random slider shapes like 00:49:086 (3) -
23:20 -Latias-: which i pointed out already
23:21 -Latias-: blankets should be used more
23:21 Violet-Fox: some sliders overlap directly on the ends/starts for aethsetics but i do see some where the tracks touch unintentionally
23:22 -Latias-: yeah
23:22 -Latias-: also stack things like 00:12:540 (4,1) -
23:22 -Latias-: together
23:23 -Latias-: i'd also say the slider velocity is rather low for an insane
23:23 -Latias-: as insane usually has a 1.6-1.8 slider velocity
23:24 -Latias-: if you would need to higher or lower the slider velocity
23:24 Violet-Fox: tried to keep it low to match the song which is why almost the entirety of the kiai has higher SV
23:24 -Latias-: but 1.4 for insane
23:24 -Latias-: pretty low
23:24 -Latias-: and makes it pretty hard to play
23:25 -Latias-: you would also help get rid of awkward shapes like 00:13:086 (1) -
23:26 Violet-Fox: yeah im working on that
23:26 Violet-Fox: lol
23:26 -Latias-: https://www.youtube.com/user/Pishifat/videos
23:27 -Latias-: i recommend you to watch those videos
23:27 -Latias-: he explains mapping way better then i could ever
23:28 Violet-Fox: i have watched his videos
23:29 -Latias-: then try appying more concepts he talks about
23:29 -Latias-: it would benfit the mapset a lot
23:30 -Latias-: ok, thats it from me
23:30 -Latias-: ill be posting the log of the chat
23:30 -Latias-: on the fourms of the map
23:30 Violet-Fox: okay
Hytex
Beatmap Nominator
558 posts
Joined June 2016
Hytex
ey just passing by..
im only modding easy cuz i have no time (ill mod the others later >///<)
sorry for long mod :<

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Non-bold is suggestion...

General
  1. Why are there no tags, lol

Easy
Easy
Editing Tools (grids, timing, etc.)
  1. You should've used the "most precise" grid, which is the tiny grid for more work space.
  2. You could use 0.80 slider velocity instead because 0.40 is slow, why 0.40 tho?

First of all, why are most of the sliders vertical/horizontal, at least curve some. There are also some parts which have inconsistent spacing, i'll point them out in the mod, and you have to fix them. (also overlaps)
00:05:813 (4,5) - I recommend replacing this with a curved slider like " ( "?
00:08:359 (1,2) - inconsistent spacing
00:07:268 (6,3) - overlaps
00:10:177 (4,5,6) - inconsistent spacing
00:09:813 (3,5) - overlaps
00:13:086 (1,2) - inconsistent spacing
00:14:177 (2,4) - overlaps
00:14:540 (3,4) - inconsistent spacing
00:13:086 (1,2) - remove red hook, and make it a blanket..?
00:15:995 (4,5) - inconsistent spacing
00:18:904 - 00:30:177 - at least add something in that break (unless in other diffs have breaks there too)
00:30:540 (1,2) - inconsistent spacing
00:30:540 (1,2,3,4) - these could be hard for beginner players, please nerf
00:31:631 (2,3,4) - inconsistent spacing
00:31:995 (3,7) - overlaps
00:33:450 (5,6,7) - inconsistent spacing
00:34:540 (7) - kinda not follows the rhythm, fix?
00:36:359 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent spacing. (and hoyl those gaps between (1) and (2) xd)
00:42:177 (1,1) - overlaps
00:44:722 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing, (also dont use a lot of reverse arrows jizuz)
00:48:359 (4,5,6) - ^
00:50:904 (1,2) - ^
00:55:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,1,1) - entire kiai has inconsistent spacing.
01:02:540 (6,2) - overlaps
01:11:268 (7,9) - ^
01:15:631 (1,2,3) - ^
01:18:540 (4,1) - ^
01:19:995 (1,1) - ^

NCs (new combo)
(All of these should be followed. (the bold and non-bold dont count on NCs))
00:07:268 (1,2) - swap NC
00:42:177 (5) - remove NC
01:08:359 (1) - add NC
01:14:177 (5,1) - swap NC
01:24:722 (2) - remove NC
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